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0:03Peter Rosenberg! Shout out, Zach. I got you. The major stick. Oh my goodness. It's professional wrestling. The king of the king. 24 seconds. A thousand percent confirmed. M-mage. Stay mage and enjoy yourself. M-m-m-m-m-m-mage. M-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m. Mail, measure, m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-mitch. It's still rooted. Bitch. Mail, measure, m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-mitch. It's still rooted. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, oh, oh. Thank you, man. Sweet, sweet Peter Rosenberg. Shout out to that guy, Greg. I like delicious chicken.

1:05It was Rapport. It was Rapport. It's professional wrestling. It's professional wrestling. Welcome to the program. We're very happy to be here. Also, Dip, not only is Dipperstein here in Los Angeles, But joining us later from London, England, will be the birthday boy himself, the physically large stat guy, Greg, who I believe for hour two we will have with us. Be honest. Did you remember his birthday yesterday? No, but I sent him a nice birthday text. I definitely will shoot a birthday text if it's someone's birthday, but it's usually just happy birthday. I think people appreciate the classic happy birthday.

1:41Do you agree? Well, I'll tell you the one thing. I've said this before. I'll say it again. if you shorten like if you write HBD you might as well write F off oh yeah HBD is repug that is so disrespectful to write HBD on someone's birthday but like it's weird because September 11th you know I obviously remember every year but I do still often forget it's SGG's birthday even though you think it's the easiest thing to remember because the reason Greg dragged on his birthday for a whole week is because his birthday is on 9-11. But I still forget. And I did yesterday as well. There's been a lot going on.

2:29So I just – I forgot. But I have to tell you, did you look at the post? Of the wedding? Yeah. No, no, no. I did. No, no, no. Not the picture Linda sent in our group chat. Did you watch – did you see my post on Instagram? Yes. Did you comment? You have to comment. You have to leave a comment. What am I going to say? Happy birthday? You know what I'm going to comment? HBD. No, you can't. You might as well write SMD. If you write HBD, write SMD. Okay, that's how it feels.

2:59Anyway, oh, this is great news. What? Listen to this. Listen to what just came down the line for your boy. Let me see if I can go to speakerphone here. What? hi this message is for peter it's dr gondy would touch your heart just wanted to let you know that your heart monitor wasn't normal um my god he's got a normal heart a beautiful heart i still want a great heart i got a great i still want to get an echocardiogram we love the heart it's one of the great anyways um god there's a lot to get to today um first and foremost out of the gate we know dip won't give you any details because he's a very private man but i do want to say congratulations to maxwell friedman and alicia toot who were wed last week in a beautiful ceremony on long island at a i mean the luxurious beyond all measure the highest levs um i have to tell you i realized something very important that day something huge was discovered in my life and that is i am a big fan of smart mark sterling that is that i didn't know i don't you told me he was a gg i didn't know how the level of gg smart mark is oh yeah gg of the highest level he is a great guy let me tell you something okay it's so funny i'm talking to this guy and I've gotten to know him now a little bit.

4:30He's a great guy. He's on the major wrestling podcast with Matt Cardona. Oh, I didn't even know that. Smart Mark is, oh, I didn't even realize he's doing that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think I know a lot about wrestling figures and years ago they blew me off. I wanted to be on the show in the beginning and they blew me off. Oh, I remember that. I remember that. Yeah, and I told Smart Marks, showing that they blew me off or whatever he was very upset about it and and he told them by the way and so and so i think i know a lot about wrestling figures this guy knows everything about wrestling figures he can talk that whole group of guys they know everything about wrestling it's really quite extraordinary we the fun i won't i'm not going to say anything about anything as you know i don't like to do but i will tell you one thing which is a lot of fun a game to play with your friends if you're sitting around doing nothing for hours.

5:30If you're with a bunch of your marquee friends, one of the greatest games you could play is one guy calls out a Hasbro or LJN figure, and the other two friends, the one who could do the pose quickest, the right pose, wins. You did this with them? Yes. And I got to tell you, I lost. I'm good. I'm good. I know. No, you're getting crushed. They do this for a living, Dip. Yeah. I know. I know. I don't know. I only know like the main LJNs. I'm not a figure nerd. I have enough things to be a nerd about. I don't have. I'm not a figure guy. I bet you you know more than you think of. I called out a few LJNs.

6:12Oh, LJNs, yeah. No, LJNs, yes, not Hasbro. If I call out a few LJNs, you'll know exactly where to put your arms and legs. Okay? Oh, they have to be the main ones, though. If you get, Dip, you could call out SD Jones. I don't know. Oh, I could do SD Jones. It's this.

6:30I guarantee you if I said, okay, do Bundy, you could do it. Hold on. Hold on. Bundy's my favorite. Bundy's this. No, no. Bundy's this. Bundy's this? Yes, Bundy's this. Oh, you're right. Bundy's this. Bundy is this. You already know my theory on Bundy. If you have Bundy in your house, you don't need a gun because an intruder could be killed with the Bundy LJ. You hit a thief in the back of the head with the Bundy LJN. Good night. Good luck. It's one of the heaviest LJNs for sure. Oh, yeah. No question. Now, so shout out to Smart Mark, a great guy. Another wedding MVP. I mean, I already knew this guy was a great guy, but, like, I already enjoyed him.

7:13But, like, obviously the first time I've been at a wedding with the man. I mean, is there a better wedding guy than Double J, Jeff Jarrett? I mean, one of the all-time – Jeff and Karen Jarrett, me and Natalie are going to renew our vows so we can invite the Jarretts to the wedding. They were a great time. If I ever get married, the Jarretts will be at the wedding 1 ,000%. I mean, do you know the beauty I have? I actually have to reach out to Double J to see if I get the picture because Karen took it. There's a picture of Natalie and Jeff Jarrett getting pizza from the pizza truck after the wedding.

7:51I mean come on this is a major event now I do have to address one thing about this wonderful nuptial and in all seriousness for as big an asshole as MJF is to see how happy he was walking down the aisle like I actually got kind of like I got a little I got a little emotional seeing it because he this is all this is something he's very much wanted so I'm very happy for him family man is very much listen he is a piece of shit to everyone but he is truly a family man is the kind of guy MJF is. So I'm very happy for him. But one thing that was crazy, I saw Dave Meltzer and I'm not some Meltzer attacker like everybody is.

8:30I truly appreciate Meltzer's contributions to talking about pro wrestling, whether he gets things wrong or it can be ridiculous or not. But I saw Meltzer and his co-host complaining about MJF having Hangman page at his wedding to which I'll just say this. We have to update where we're at, guys. Like, I'm not saying that we should have a world where people who are in a feud with one another should go traveling together and walking down the street and walk out of the arena together holding hands, okay? But he was acting as if Max and Hangman posted a picture together with their arms around each other.

9:12Dave, we're living in a world where there's a show called WWE Unreal that lifts up the curtain and shows things behind the scenes. You have to adapt. I'm not saying kayfabe should be dead. It should not. I care deeply about people sticking to things and making it feel real. But in 2025, to be at the same wedding, like, come on, dude. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is not 1971. Listen, I'm just impressed. In some ways, I wish it was. I'm impressed enough that when WWE is traveling overseas and everyone rides buses to events, there's an H bus and an F bus. To me, that's impressive enough. I know because the other day I accidentally got on the H bus and there was no one here.

10:03I was like, there are no H's here. Who's on this card? You're such an H though. I guess I am an H. I enjoy those kinds. You're an H. Yeah, you know what I did? I sat on the back of the bus with the bronze. Bronze Breaker and Bronze 3, they're basically the only H's on the bus. But I'm impressed when people even do that much. So the idea that Max isn't going to have Hangman at his wedding. Dave, come back to us, dude. Come on. Let's all settle down. So anyways, congrats to the newlyweds. Max, of course, bringing the wedding stuff immediately onto television. putting up posts where he's replacing his bride's face with the title.

10:46I mean, he's a lunatic. He's a complete wrestling lunatic. But, Dip, after we get off the air today, it's actually very annoying timing-wise. WWE has some massive announcement they're making at 3 p.m. And here's what I want to ask you. When you and I spoke earlier this week, it seemed like the announcement that was being alluded to based on what had already leaked was that it would be WrestleMania in Saudi in 2027. Correct? That's what the assumption looked like, right? That's the assumption. Now, I read something yesterday, and I can never tell which sort of dirt things are reputable and which ones are not.

11:32You're better probably at that than I am. Did you see the one moving around yesterday that they might announce that there are two WrestleMania events? Did you see that? Yeah, I also heard another one. I heard another rumor, which was shocking to me, that WrestleMania 43 in 27 is going to be on the moon. Is that true? Yes. I'm hearing the moon. They're targeting an intergalactic WrestleMania. Ah. And we could be traveling via space shuttle to WrestleMania. You think the countdown? In 27. Will the countdown show be on the moon? Or will we have like another sort of like vehicle in space where we'll do the countdown show?

12:20I think it would be in one of the craters. You could have a nice bowl, like a crowd in one of the craters. And you guys are at the tip of the crater and the crowd behind you is in the crater. Wow. You can probably get some, it's probably flat. You get some nice equipment in there. and you can probably build a nice stage in the creators. So in all seriousness, though, if they're saying WrestleMania 43 is going to be in Saudi Arabia. Or 40, oh, did I mean 44? I meant 44. You meant 44. On the moon. Yeah. On the moon. Yeah, 44 is the moon. So Triple H says we'll be making a huge announcement on WWE's YouTube channel Friday at 3 p.m.

12:59I told you we changed the game and we're just getting started. And the rumor is there are all these stars who are there, like a bunch of the biggest stars in the company. Now, keep in mind, Saudi Arabia already has the rumble this coming year at 26. So is them having mania in 27 a big enough deal for Triple H to say we're changing the game? Or is there going to be something else? that's what made me think when I read the headline that said two WrestleManias in one year that to me and again I know you people might may not believe this we have no idea this is complete speculation based on what I see online like everybody else I don't go calling people and trying to get information I will occasionally send people powers that be just bulging eyes but they don't say anything to me so do you see what I'm saying though dip is it a big enough deal to say we're changing the game if it's mania in Saudi isn't everyone expecting at some point there's going to be a mania in Saudi when we know how much money is involved in that deal yeah I mean it shouldn't shock anybody if that's if that's what happens ends up happening shouldn't shock anyone so I would say there's two in a year would that shock you maybe maybe the big maybe another big announcement maybe we're doing Royal Rumble 28 on Mars say no you already did it you You can't go back to space a second time.

14:32You have to come up with something else. What's past space? There's nowhere to go past space. And I'm seeing people like the rumor, again, the rumors that are out there is that if Mania 43 is in Saudi, it's going to be the biggest event in the history of events. No expense matters. Everyone, cost is nothing. They're going to bring everybody back. Andre's coming back from the dead. Andre Hogan is at 43. um here's let me ask you a question though and we can speculate about it after the break if it's true this is getting way ahead if it's true do you think cena's there you think he retires right now and then he's there at 43 yeah if they want him and he should go I want to see I want to see Ric Flair in the main event I want to see Ric Flair versus The Undertaker versus John Cena versus The Rock versus Roman Reigns five way dance I just I'm trying to imagine what they're going to do Mick Foley is the special guest referee I want you to think about this though as we go to break and as the hour goes on and you guys listening out there as well I want you to think about this.

15:52Who is out there? Is there anyone out there to get that hasn't been speculated on that because cost is no option, no object, I should say, we're not thinking of that you could bring back? Is there anyone? It's a great question. It's a great question. Because everyone's out there now. We know. Who can go? But who are we not thinking about? who is the one name that we have not fantasized about having back in that ring old young whatever is there anyone is there anyone out there so i think that's something fun to think about as the show goes on next we got to talk about raw we got to talk about i know it's friday we've had time to digest it we got to talk about the return of aj lee and get dips thoughts sgg the birthday boy will join us in hour two and you can join us right now 877-344-4893 it's all on the table whatever you want to discuss 877-344-4893 it's cheap heat live it's rosenberg it's dip it's a friday on pro wrestling nation 24 7 promotional consideration paid for by the following marvel comics number one tough guy the punisher explodes onto game boy in the ultimate payback non-stop shoot-em-up arcade action, and a special appearance by Spider-Man from Acclaim.

17:13Welcome back to Cheap Heat Live on Pro Wrestling Nation 24-7. I'm your forever 24-7 champion, Peter Rosenberg. Stat Guy Greg in London town. Brian Dipperstein in Los Angeles, California. And you, 877-344-4893. Don't be scared. Get on the line right now, 877-344-4893. And let's talk about all things pro wrestling. I know you want to talk some Usos. You want to talk, dip some Hangman and Kyle Fletcher. Yes. But before we get to any of that, we should talk about the biggest news of the week, which was the return of Alexandra Jameson Lee. I made that up. But you really loved AJ's return promo, huh?

18:03I did. I texted you right away, and I said, I think this is really good. um I thought resonated so well with you the uh honesty it felt like she was just talking yeah and there was no put on there was nothing it was just her she comes out there she's talking about mental health she's talking about you know her like a it was very simple but also very effective I'm like oh wait a minute AJ Lee is not it's been so long since I've seen her right when You sort of got me back watching every single week is when she was like at her peak. And so I did see a good portion of her run. And like to me, I mean, it was 12 years, 10 years ago.

18:43It's a long time to be out of the ring and then come back. And she looked amazing. She sounded genuine. She didn't seem over scripted in any way. She like felt like she felt like a pure baby face. And it works well with this story. I love it. I'm into it. You know, it's funny too. As much as I remember AJ being there quite well, I was a super rabid fan at that time. Yeah, I didn't know that I had like a – I didn't have one set thing for what I remember her character being. Just the skipping and the music. Exactly, and being crazy a lot. And crazy. Right, and being like, oh, like looking in her eyes and her being all crazy and being sort of a temptress at different times was the way they seemed to use her at that time.

19:31obviously a very different time than now so I agree I thought she was great I really did um I have very little to complain about with regard to this tag match for Wrestlepalooza I have mixed feelings and I heard it brought up on Busted Open this week about the way Becky responded to her like the Becky looking like she's seen a ghost kind of thing and I heard the arguments on both sides you know like I heard coach was saying he didn't like Becky seeming so scared and Mark Henry was sort of explaining that from his angle it's like hey when you disrespected her man that much now you're going to be scared because now you have to pay for it I think they could have split the difference like I don't need the I don't need Becky being terrified of AJ Lee and that's probably because I've always been someone who like I think AJ sort of requires a certain level of suspension of disbelief because she is smaller than most everyone there.

20:31Like, I could see Becky being surprised for sure. She should be surprised that she's there. I don't know that she should be terrified, but obviously we'll see what it looks like when they actually get next to each other in the ring. Now, I have to imagine this is a spot where Punk finally gets a win, right? Like, I have to imagine this is a time when Punk gets a win, gets one up on Seth Rollins. This would have to be it. Hard for me to pick it any other way. I just, why would, the idea of you bring AJ back, we get them together, and then they just immediately lose in their first, I can't see it happening.

21:08That would, maybe, maybe, but if Punk's not going to win then, when is he beating him? Because I don't see a world in which Punk is beating Seth Rollins anytime soon. That was what I learned from the way, the second he got his hands on the title, that it was immediately taken away by Seth Rollins. to me that is a thing that's going to continue for a while is CM Punk every time he gets close Lucy pulls the football away right is it a data reference that's who dated a reference to Charlie Brown I don't know what you're talking about you don't know you don't understand what that means Lucy pulling the football away oh yes I do yes Linus is trying to kick the ball you'd have to remind me though you reminded me you don't do you remember linus yeah i wasn't a big charlie brown guy can you can you name anyone on the show that who i haven't mentioned yet no you you have no one no no i'm not a charlie brown guy so i know that you remember linus i remember okay and lucy is the annoying one who's in love with linus and she pulls the right i said you You don't remember the piano guy?

22:17Oh, yeah. There's a guy playing the piano. Yeah. You don't remember his name? No. Schroeder. Charlie Brown? Oh, Schroeder. Charlie Brown doesn't play the piano. Move on. I don't know anything about Charlie Brown. What about you don't remember the bird? No. No. Is there a bird? Isn't there a tiger? Snoop. There's no tiger on Charlie Brown? I don't know. What if they're kids in a neighborhood? What is this segment? I don't know anything about Charlie Brown. Move on from Charlie Brown. Does anyone who we work with know any other characters from Charlie Brown? Or have I gotten to it? I can't believe you don't know a character on Charlie Brown.

22:55All right, thank you. Ben Queen has weighed in. Thank you. Pigpen. You don't know Pigpen? You don't know the bird? You don't know the bird Woodstock? I know the names. If you threw the names out, I'm not a Charlie Brown guy. I'm sorry. Well, the timing of this is big. the big announcement was that in a six-man tag, you have the Wyatt Six. They're up against Linus, Charlie Brown, and Woodstock. It's going to be mage. Anyways, I just feel like every time Punk gets close, he's not going to get it. So I think a great way to sort of keep this thing going, though, so Punk doesn't just look like he's always getting nowhere, is AJ Lee probably ends up scoring the winning pin over Becky at Wrestlepalooza.

23:39That would be my personal prediction there. But I am looking forward to it. And then there was news this week that Wrestlepalooza could end up being a yearly thing that they think could be pretty big. Are you buying that? Is there a world in which Wrestlepalooza, as it was sort of talked about this week, could end up being like the big four or five PLEs of the year? I feel like they've been – I feel like with the – this is a very good question, and I'll tell you why. because with the with the war games thing at survivor series now every year which i like very much and i'm into it i except for that there's no roof i need a roof okay you need a roof please we know how you feel about the roof with the roof back i i feel like they're trying to edge out survivor series as not a big four anymore i mean it's going to be a huge event but like you know keep it to four i don't i don't need every single one to feel like the biggest event i know that's probably the goal which is also fair but like i think money in the bank was like going to be the big five for a minute that's what it felt like that was where we were going for a while i know and it's still by the way it still feels huge it does in my opinion huge but i don't know i think wrestle palooza needs to have a little bit more maybe of like a gimmick to it for it to maybe like a one gimmick match or i need something a little bit more interesting the card is incredible so far i must say but like let's let's give it to you real quick uh card so far Io Sky and Stephanie Viqueira the vacant Women's World Championship because of Naomi now being out with her pregnancy then you have the Uso sorry I didn't interrupt I don't think Stephanie Viqueira is ready for the title I think she is a huge star I'm looking for a Rhea Macabre vs.

25:22Macabre story at some point but I don't know if she's ready for the title yet they need to put it on Io Sky for a little while back on the EOS guy. I know I love Stephanie. I've said I think she has everything. Me too, but don't rush the Stephanie Viqueira. I agree. I don't think it's time yet. I don't think so, but I think she's fantastic, but not yet. The Usos reuniting against The Vision, Bronson Reed and Braun Breaker. We got to talk about that, by the way. I'm ready to talk about that right now. As we mentioned, the mixed tag match, and of course, Cena versus Brock. That's what we have so far.

25:53Great. I would love to see them for Wrestlepalooza. I'm going to say something crazy. I know we only have a week left. I know what you're going to say. No, you're not. No, you don't. I would love to see them have it be a bit of a bigger card. I would love eight or nine on this instead of like five. Me too. Me too. I like the big card. And it's called Wrestlepalooza, which to me suggests it's like there's tons of wrestling. It's wrestling galore. You might as well call it wrestling galore. And then you have to have wrestling galore. I like wrestling galore. That's a great name for another pay-per-view.

26:29Wrestling galore. By the way, sounds like heaven. Let me tell you a hot take on these schmagegy wrestling fans that like these, you know, that say it's better to have five or six matches. What are these people? I want 30 matches. Okay? Don't you love wrestling and think it's great? I want a 30-match card. Make it go for 24 hours. Sounds good to me. I'll see you there. So working. So it's so funny. So working there, I would be like, oh, my God, we have 13 matches. However, sitting at home on a Saturday night after my baby went to sleep, you know how much I love that AEW is going on for hours and hours?

27:08I love it. I love it. Keep going. Oh, another match. Another match. Why not? I don't do anything. Are these wrestling fans? Real quick, you wrestling fans who are making content, you're recording yourself when AJ Lee comes out. you're telling me you have better things to do than watch a 10 match card i'm not buying it i think you got nothing else to do sit home and enjoy it exactly i mean i want the entire pre i want no no matches on the pre-show just peter rosenberg reading the phone book that's all i want to i want to see peter rosenberg reading a phone book for an hour and then after the alice augustine after the y's and the z's are done in the phone book i want to see 30 matches and then a post show where you read the phone book backwards.

27:52Backwards, okay. Now I will say, I will say, I really do hope they go like, just give me seven, seven or eight would feel bigger. These days we've been at five or six. Give me seven or eight for Wrestle Palooza. Palooza implies there's lots, it's a thing. All right, we have to get, finally, the Usos and the Bronze are going to happen. Because if we have another episode of Raw end with some sort of schmaz involving the Bronze and L.A. Knight and the Usos, we have to move forward. Seth has now moved forward. So Seth has left that part of the story. Him and Punk have, so they took Punk and Seth out of the schmazol at the end of the show every week.

28:43But we're still left with the schmazeroo of the Usos, LA Knight, Braun, Braun Breaker, Bronson Reed, LeBron James. They're all the Brawns. Brawny, Braun, Braun, Braun. I'm also ready to put it in the schmozzileum, okay? Yeah, let's put this in the schmozzileum and move on. We need more. But I will say, this is a great way to blow it off, though. The Usos coming back together is a great way to blow it off. But are they coming together again? I wouldn't say they're coming. I mean, did you see at the end of Raw what happened? Let me tell you something. Let me just say right now. They're putting the man in black clothing.

29:25He's not coming to make the save with the glasses and the colorful blue and white and whatever, pink. I— If they turn Jey Uso heel right now, which he's tweening up a storm now as of Monday. if they fully turn this man heel and turn the crowd that quickly on Jey Uso, and it ends up turning into a give Jimmy his moment thing where Jimmy is the baby face, that is incredible. That would be an incredible creative accomplishment by WWE. And not only that, not only would it be incredibly creative, real quick, not only would it be incredibly creative, it would be incredibly smart. because it would be, you know, here's the thing about like sports.

30:18We're always sad when a team gets rid of a player that we love a little bit too early. But that's called good, smart business. Same thing here. It would be a little too early to turn J, which means it's exactly the right time. That's when you do it because too late is too late. if you wait till we all know right now there's just enough enough of a hint where like he spears la night he has the weird moment with his brother just enough to turn him but the crowd's still cheering for him you wait longer than that because look the crowd was flat staring at jayuso like what'd you do bro don't wait any longer this is the time as a wise man once said the time is now I mean, I'm going way too far, but like him turning on the brother completely and joining the vision would be something.

31:14I mean, that's not I know they just Becky now just joined the vision. So they have a new member. But I'm just saying, so, I mean, you know me. I want him to go all the way with stuff. If all of a sudden Jey Uso turns heel and joins the vision, I mean, that is that would be quite the vision. That would be the vision of the stench, dude. I would love that. I know. And then all of a sudden, Heyman is with Jey Uso. Yeah, sounds good to me. No, no, no. Back with Jey Uso. Right, that's right. Back with Jey Uso. And then you have, oh my God. If you're going into Survivor Series. Here we go. Talk to me.

31:53And you don't know what team Jey Uso is going to play for. If he is an F or an H. You don't know. Going into Survivor Series. That is wrestling. That is a story. That is storytelling in wrestling, and I think that is what they should do. What are your thoughts? That would make it a lot of fun. They need to find a way to make it spicy. Let's talk about War Games right now. We're way getting ahead of ourselves. You always want to talk about War Games. I got news for you. Calm down with the War Games. You jump ahead to War Games like it's WrestleMania every year. It's what, pay-per-view PLE number five now?

32:32I love War Games. You're so ahead. You've done this. You did a few weeks ago. You jumped to war games again. I mean, you did it like July. You were in war games. Why are you yelling at me? I feel very bullied right now. I'm feeling bullied. You want to do more on war games? I think you just did it. That was the thing. You just did the war games thing. You want to now break it down. I want to talk about who the teams are. Well, there would be a vision team. No, no. There would be a vision team. But here's the problem with what you're suggesting. The problem about the vision team, if it were to last from now to war games, it means we're still going to have LA Knight, Jimmy Uso, broad and broad.

33:11We're going to keep doing it. That means we're not leaving the Schmazzaroo that you want to put in the Schmazzalium. But there's two big stories there. There's Roman coming back potentially to be on the face team as the leader. But then you also have Punk, which like, who is the leader of the face team? Is it Punk or is it Roman? Or are they both on it? Oh, and by the way, you could even add the mixed tag and have AJ and Becky be a part of it. I don't think they'll do that. I'd like to see a singles match between the two of them, though. We'll get there, right? Maybe that's what you put on there.

33:44But again, you're skipping ahead because so real quick, we have Wrestlepalooza. We have Perth a few weeks later. And is that it? Saturday Night's main event beginning November and then Survivor Series? Yeah. As of now, that's what we have. My hometown of Jace. See you there, buddy. I mean, your hometown of Jace-esque. Your real hometown is Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The place you rest your head is Los Angeles, California. And San Diego is adjacent to that. Confirmed. But by the way, are you going to be back? Are you going to go? Yeah. Your plan is to go come back from wherever you're Thanksgiving in to be there for Saturday?

34:26Yeah. When's Thanksgiving? Thursday. you don't are you unaware that they're saturday are you aware that thanksgiving's on thursdays yes you are because we know yeah because you know because there was once a charlie brown thanksgiving special maybe you're you have a blind spot for all of it thanksgiving it's so boring charlie it's a nothing thing i see charlie brown i turn it right off i'm come on oh self park guy south never never heard that comp before they're both cartoons they are both cartoons Yeah, they're both cartoons. Yeah, they deserve to be in the same category. They're both on. Could they both be Mount Rush?

35:03I mean, 877-344. I'll give Charlie Brown Mount Rush of animation for sure. Well, no. Well, the character Charlie Brown has to be, or Snoopy. But here's the thing. If you're taking one for Mount Rush, you're taking Snoopy over Charlie Brown, right? I don't know. An outsider's perspective, I think you're taking Charlie Brown. Really? That is interesting. Are you taking, you're picking one? Because for me, my cartoon Mount Rush, it has Charlie Brown or Snoopy. I have to decide. Garfield is unquestionably on the cartoon Mount Rush. Yeah, Garfield's there for sure. There's never been a greater cartoon in my opinion.

35:42Sorry, Homer's in spot three. I mean, there's no question Homer's in C3. You're putting Homer in three. Homer has to be in C3. Are you kidding me? Homer over Bart. The man's an icon. What about Doug from Nickelodeon? Nickelodeon. Are you kidding? You sound like SGG. This is crazy. All right. You wanted to talk. First of all, there's a lot of things happening in your house. You have to talk about. So we need to know what's going on in your world. We're concerned. There's a lot happening. You are in your house. Yep. I'm hearing this. Well, I'm having a Brita problems. I'm having. I changed the Brita filter and the Brita filter still says replace.

36:19Who knows what's going on with these Brita filters? Does anybody know anything about Brita? I mean, what's going on in that little thing that makes the water perfect? Good water to drink. I have no idea what's going on. Speaking of dumb technology and things that irritate us, if you didn't already love the beautiful, charming Zoe Kravitz, she was on that Instagram show, Subway Takes, where people give their opinion on stuff on the subway, and the guy says, what's your take? And Zoe Kravitz's take was, you're going to love this woman. her take was Bluetooth doesn't work and I was so thrilled to hear someone else say it out loud she was like and she's like yeah I'm sorry and the guy disagreed he goes disagree Bluetooth does work she's like no something working means it works all the time not it disconnects regularly not there's constantly problems where every phone call you're on the person's disconnecting and reconnecting there's problems with the Bluetooth and I think Brita could be in that category.

37:22There's always something with a Brita. Let me tell you, I'm going back to bottles. I love the environment. I drove a Prius for three years. When was that dip? You have had a gigantic car too big for your tiny frame for years. You've been poisoning the environment for years. When I first moved to LA, I had a Prius. By the way, the most reliable car I've ever had in my life, by the way. I never had one problem with a Prius. never once with a Prius had a problem. Okay. I barely drive, you know, I don't drive, but I, you know, I drive to win from the work and that's it. But I'm, but regardless, the best car I ever owned in my life can all these, the big cars I have now, nothing works properly in these cars.

38:01If the Prius perfect car. Okay. But I'm going back to bottles. I can't stand this Brita. It's, it's, it's the top flops off of the Brita all over the place. Oh, I hate a flop. I hate a flop. I hate a flop. I hate a flop. All right. Yeah. So we already speculated on the possibility of a breakup of Jimmy and Jay, which I would be thrilled about because we mentioned recently on the show that it was clearly their match at WrestleMania was such a disappointment. They so clearly had more to do that we did not yet get to see. So I would absolutely love to see that story play out longer. And I really just think that the Jey Uso character, as over as it still is, as much as there are still more shirts to make and more kids to cheer, I just think, Dip, the end is going to come sooner than you think.

38:54And by him all of a sudden turning, it just extends it, his bigness. It will be so good for him to do it. And I know there are people who get actually caught up on like, I don't want someone to be bad. I don't want someone to be good. I mean, we see it every time there's a tag team breakup. There are people crying about who's going to be bad. All these guys and girls you care about is being on TV and doing a good job. And for me, for my money dip, Jey Uso is going to be more compelling for longer if they turn him right now. Absolutely agree. It would be, I mean, you already started to hear the boos.

39:32I mean, LA Knight is a perfect foil for this, by the way, because LA Knight is so over, you know, that like using him as like a real like first plant in the story to turn him heel was genius if they are i mean i really we're talking as if it's happening i mean you you you ended raw with a real cliffhanger and it was great i i you know we've talked a little bit about the storytelling lacking a little bit these days i you know if you want to really pump it up turning jay uso heel and then all of a sudden having jimmy replace him in the exact same spot as the monster baby face that's selling all the merch and saying all the things and doing all the stuff.

40:10I mean, that is genius at the highest order of long term storytelling. So look, I am. I hope this is what happens. You know? Yeah, I really hope so, too. That would be tremendous. Now, I'm guessing the reason everything is happening today in Las Vegas is because that's where TKO is for Terrence Crawford, Canelo Alvarez, which is also part of Riyadh's season. And this, you know, Turkey, who's the guy from Saudi, who will be, you know, Turkey Al-Ashik, who's going to be a part of WrestleMania and all the WWE stuff is also the guy behind this fight. Oh, my God, I'm seeing something big. I'm seeing something tall.

40:50Straight from the runway at Fashion Week, London Fashion Week, we have SGG at some point, who will be on the show in the next 30 seconds, I assume, And his legs must hurt. He's been walking the runway for weeks at this point. Preparing for this moment. SGG, did you make it to us from London? I did. I did. I'm here. Wow. In the flesh. Thank you. Give it up. There he is. SGG all the way from London. What do you have? Are you eating fish and chips for dinner there? What's going on? Are you drinking tea? Not yet. Yeah, yeah. We just did some tea. See, Dip knows what's up. We just did some tea. Had a delicious steak dinner at Hawksmoor last night with all the fixings.

41:43You know, some great fries, mashed potatoes and gravy. Has the food been okay? The food's been okay? I mean, no one raves about the food in London, which I know is tough for the Brits. It's fine now. It's fine now. It's fine. Not that I know what I'm – that's what I'm told. I haven't been there in years. The problem is English food is bad. English food is bad. But the food in London – because you got to remember they did that whole thing where they went around the world, conquered different places. A lot of conquering. Yeah, a lot of conquering. So if you get some – you can get some good Indian food out here.

42:20You can get some good West Indian food, Jamaican, Trinidadian food. So that stuff is good. But the English food, unfortunately, I regret to report is still bad. But that's OK, because you got a lot of options. I guess I guess it depends where you go. I mean, I got to get back to London. Let me tell you, that's really a place that people. It's a real it's a place confirmed. And let me tell you something. You can absolutely. You can absolutely get yourself some delicious Indian food in London. In a heartbeat. I'm not an Indian food guy. I could become one. I just it's not it's not for me. I don't know why.

42:56I don't know. I just never – we never went out for dinner at Indian restaurants when I was growing up. And in L.A., I don't even know where they are. And people don't order it. It's not something that is around my life, Indian food at all. Oh, really? I am one of the biggest Indian food guys in the business today. You won't find a big – You've got to take their life. You've got to get it. I'm ready to go. We'll go when I come to New York. We'll go to Indian food. I'm a big Indian food guy. And by the way, though, although I will say it is one of those foods where like gringos all order it basically the same way.

43:29They're getting tikka masala. They're getting paneer. What's paneer? Paneer is cheese. It's little cheese cubes in different sauces. Right, babe? She likes mudda paneer. Is it cut up string cheese? Because if it is, I'm in. Oh, Jace, it's cut up string cheese plus. Cut up string cheese plus? It sounds like a great dish. Should we get swigat for dinner tonight? Maybe I'm feeling swigat. Swigat is a restaurant here on the Upper West Side. It's a delight. Anyways, SGG, welcome aboard. Have you been able to keep up with the wrestling while overseas? I've been doing my best. Has the announcement been made yet?

44:12No, it's two hours. No, two hours. Oh, my God. Because the speculation is Saudi mania. Yes, we know. We've covered it. I'm going to go. I got news for you. I'm going. So I don't know what's going on there. I'm going to go. I'm going to Saudi Arabia a thousand percent. I need to get off my ass and go somewhere interesting is the truth. How many times can I go to New York and Florida? I've seen it all. I know where New York is. I know where Florida is. It's time to be dip flair in Saudi Arabia. But here's my question about dip flair, though. That reminds me. You can't drink in Saudi Arabia, right?

44:55I don't know. Is that true? I don't think you can drink. You can't have a sip of alcohol in Saudi Arabia. I don't think alcohol consumption is a thing. SG, am I wrong? No, you're not wrong. From what I've heard, it's not. it's frowned upon and i i don't want to do anything frowned upon well i don't want to be yeah yeah i i can you imagine complaining on the uh at a hotel in saudi arabia i mean i i well from what i told you won't have to it's it's supposed to be that's the one thing you're going to get is like the highest level service imaginable i'll find something i will find something the the the blow dryer won't work they'll they'll be uh you know uh there won't be they won't leave water bottles for me in there there'll be something there'll be a water stain on the ceiling something will happen to me at a hotel in saudi arabia and i'm not gonna be able to hold my tongue i'm gonna have most people for most people alcohol consumption possession sale manufacturing is illegal penalties include fines imprisonment possibly public flogging and deportation yeah i'm not looking to be i'm not looking to be flogged i'm not going to test it i'm not going to be flogged.

46:08The flogging is where it crossed the line for me. I'm not going to test it. I do not want to be flogged. Right now... Although, SGG could maybe use a flogging for some of these takes. You know what? You've wanted to flog him before. I know that for a fact. 877-344-4893. What do you think the announcement is going to be? Now, do you just think it's going to be Saudi? SGG, I I read on one of the other dirt sheets that it could be they're announcing two WrestleManias in one calendar year. Have you heard that?

46:47I've not heard that, and that sounds ridiculous. Two WrestleManias in one calendar year? The calendar's already full. By the way, Dip, I just want to fast forward. How funny will it be if they do do it and SGG will be supporting it in no time? and we're going to have this audio to go back to of SGG going. Two WrestleManias in one calendar year. Meanwhile, let it happen and let Roman Reigns be booked for the main event. The man will be wearing, he'll be asking for three WrestleManias in one year. Here's what I'm going to tell you. I would like a WrestleMania every day. Can we figure out a way to arrange for them to be a WrestleMania every day?

47:29And then there would be a better world. we will work on that now Dip you did I know you wanted to get to some Hangman Hangman Page and Kyle Fletcher which is now it looks like where we're going we have moved on it's interesting it's interesting what happened MJF got the match with Hangman now we know he has another match in his back pocket that he can get another title opportunity but Max loses clean to Hangman Page he's now back off with Brisco and they're going to have their thing and now Hangman and Kyle Fletcher of it all um yeah what what what did you want to say about that specifically i know you felt a couple things i just you know i've been i've been keeping up with aw pretty well i i think look hangman page has really he really feels like a true like a champion now you know he feels like a top guy for for a while i was like i'm not sure he feels like a b player i don't know he's always like been a he's a great looking guy and he's a good wrestler but like you know he wasn't great on the mic or whatever.

48:29The whole presentation now of Hangman Page, they have built him in a very smart way to feel like a champion. And now you have a guy against him. You know, MJF is doing his thing with Briscoe. But now you have Kyle Fletcher in a feud with him. There is no one more improved in wrestling in the last two years than Kyle Fletcher. The guy is, he was stumbling a little bit on the mic in the beginning. Now he's great on the mic. he sounds and acts like a star he looks like a star clearly and like the two of them together in that promo on dynamite this week it just felt flawless and good and i i just want to say these are the two these two guys are like the most improved in wrestling i think and it just feels very real and they've done a great job building hangman and kyle fletcher from a from a from a aussie open like a just a tag team guy um you know to now like one of the biggest stars in the company so anyway i just wanted to say that and i would just like to say after uh hanging out briefly with him at the bar at mjf's wedding sgg i would just like to tell you hangman page is a great guy did you get to that did you already do the mjf wedding talk yeah yeah we did it we did it we did it we did it you're gonna have to go listen to the podcast at the beginning you'll be happy to know sgg there's a replay that's right p.m eastern is that right that's right that's right sgg that's right right here on xm app on my vpn i'm gonna go back to the u.s virtually there you go i love what you're doing um no and you'll be happy to know that i publicly flogged dave melter for in 2025 being upset that hangman page was at mjf's wedding so i knew you'd agree it was an absurd take by him um all right oh sorry go ahead no no go ahead go ahead sir interrupt us go ahead i'm sorry interrupt us i'm sorry yeah okay what were you gonna say about aw continue no i just say like it feels like they're focused on a good group of people right now there as the stars like it just it feels like they've honed it in when it comes to randomness and it feels like there's a lot of like every like like the top you know six to ten people like feel like i want to see what they're doing every week on tv it's like turned itself around like not not that And it was fun.

50:49You know, I've always enjoyed it. But I'm just saying it's like it's turned itself into something like that, like, makes a lot of sense right now. That's all. I think they're in a better spot than they've been for sure. I frankly, regardless of how you view it, I will say I just get it. Here's what annoys me. Here's what I know. And this is an SGG who does not fit into this category, even though I've given him a hard time at times for not being a big supporter of AEW. But what he doesn't do is sit on the sideline as a bit of a fed man and then complain about everything they do. That is the one thing that annoys me.

51:28Like if you don't want to watch AEW, it's not your kind of show. For whatever reason you think, you're super loyal to WWE. Obviously, as a WWE man myself, I respect it. That's fine. I personally don't believe in that because I want as many jobs in the wrestling business as humanly possible. I support it all. But I get it. What I don't get is, though, the people who not only love WWE, but have to spend every day talking about how unhappy they are with the direction of AEW. Maybe it's just not for you. If you've complained about it for five years straight, then just move on with your life. It seems like every once in a while, you have to get these think pieces from people about how, oh, it's not this, it's not that.

52:09It is what it is. You either like the feel of the show and you like the talent that's there or you don't. Are you going to tell me that if you're a WWE person, you like every segment of WWE television? My guess is you don't. But you don't feel like every week you have to break down the things you don't like. SGG, it's taking your tribalism to that level that makes it annoying to me. Yeah, and I was going to say too, to add to that, like you said, every segment of everything on ww tv is not something that like it's everything is not for everybody most of it might be for you there might be some things that are for you but all if aw doesn't have those things that are for you what what do they have that is for you and if the answer is nothing or not enough to watch it then let it be what it is like you said you're not going to turn it into wwe light it's not going to be that it's going to be its own thing and either you mess with that thing or you don't but if you know me if you don't be happy there's other things that's going to make you miserable in life the the entertainment that you seek out should be the thing that makes you happy i well listen one of the things it's often said that you know nobody hates wrestling more than wrestling fans i know mvp has said that many times and i just think that there some people like to spend too much time complaining listen i have my stories that i complain about i just said it last week when we talked about page i thought i thought when soraya I got to AEW, I didn't think that her booking was super thoughtful.

53:36Yes, those moments happen. Guess what? They happen everywhere. We could all name stars who get to a company and we're like, what is the plan for this person? Is there no plan? But guess what? Companies have a lot of people signed and it's hard to always have a plan. Now, one conversation I want you guys to think about during the break and I'm going to steal it. I'm going to steal this topic from our old friends at the Ringer. You know, generally when I see Kaz and Shoemaker pop up on my feed, it's generally Kaz giving a take that makes me want to punch my phone. But in this case, I thought this was an incredibly interesting conversation.

54:09And I bet you know where I'm going, SGG. They had a talk about what, if anything, is out there that could somewhat even the battle between AEW and WWE. Is there anything that could happen that could, in one move, get AEW to close to within range to strike WWE? And when it was brought up, I thought, absolutely not. And when Kaz gave his opinion on what that thing could be, I went, actually, you know what? I think he's right. If when his deal was up, Cody Rhodes turned on WWE and went back to AEW, back that could be the like because i'm not even going to include roman just because like i don't think that is even possible so in the because i would say the same with roman obviously if they got roman and cody we're having we're having a conversation but i really do roman money but i don't think they're gonna sign yeah i don't think roman's a lifer i just never see and and you know listen Cody's probably back to being a lifer it feels that way but at the same time guys I never saw a world where he'd go start another company and then I never saw a world where he'd come to WWE so I can't say I know for certain what the man would do I mean there is there a world where it would be satisfying to Cody to go you know what I became the biggest thing in WWE I got aw off the ground i went and conquered wwe and now i'm going to go back and truly put this place on the map so dip i'll ask you the question if cody were to make that move and again i don't think this is likely but likely but i thought it was a fun bit of conversation if he did could that make a true significant impact i think it's maybe the only thing it's a great take i would have never thought of it either i i it's i i don't know i mean it's i know it's sitting right there for you, but I wouldn't have thought of it either.

56:14It's sitting right there, though. I wouldn't have thought of it. I mean, I don't want to say it's the only thing. I'm not... I love AEW. But I... It's something. It's something plus. Okay? That's my take on it. Plus, plus. You think something plus? Yeah, plus, plus. Yeah, yeah. We gotta go plus, plus on it. Because him coming back to WWE was something plus. Going back the other way, I think it's something plus, plus. Earlier, SGG, To bring this full circle, Dip and I asked a question. We said, if in fact WrestleMania 43, as we are now 90 minutes away from whatever the announcement is going to be.

56:56If at WrestleMania 43, it's Saudi Arabia and the Saudis say we want no stone unturned. Money is not an object. we want every cool thing that could exist in wrestling dip and i were trying to think of who could that be now dip i was about to say but didn't what if it also what if it also included aew wrestlers i was about that but i left it out because i wanted us to rack our brain for more realistic available you know older wrestlers retired wrestlers that's where i was But I also was thinking, I mean, what if they fork over the money for MJF and Hangman Page and whoever? So, SGG, your thought.

57:49Yeah, my answer was MJF to that question. But I like the forbidden door idea, and I do think if there is an entity that can make it happen, it is the Saudis because of that bag. Like before, WWE was sold to TKO. You had Nick Khan doing interviews and saying, look, everything's negotiable. we'll explore every option if it makes good business sense we'll do it and then we watched him prove that to be true by selling wwe and then giving the netflix deal and then announcing now this espn deal so if there's business to to be had and money to be made they'll do it and for the right bag i do think we could get an aew versus wwe true forbidden door properly for the right bag.

58:36I don't know what that number would be, but it would have to be a number that we haven't seen them get before. I'll tell you that much. It's never happening. Greg, let me ask you this. I need to take the fantasy out of fantasy book. I love it. It would be so major. But why? But in all seriousness, why never? Like, for real, if the Saudis really said, and by the way, we don't even know. We've never heard that they even have an interest in AEW. I have no idea whether Tony Khan would be interested in doing that. Here's$5 billion. not five it wouldn't be five dude they wouldn't need five billion they wouldn't need five billion they would need a few more million that they're already spending like i mean come on it would be another so you're telling me you know right so if so you're telling me wwe i'm making this up they're willing to spend 50 million on wrestlemania uh if i'm just throwing this number making this up it doesn't matter what the number is but what i'm saying is if they were willing if they they They then said to WWE, we want AEW to be a part of it as well.

59:37And WWE goes, absolutely not. They're our competition. And they go, okay, instead of 50 million, how about 100 million? You're telling me that alone isn't enough? And by the way, the numbers would be bigger than that. So you're telling me that wouldn't be enough? They go, all right, fine. It's one night only. Who cares? Okay. I mean, like, what is the major downside? No, I don't think so. Then what's AEW split of that 100 million? Or does AEW get their own number on the side of that? Yeah, now you're going too far. I don't know. Yeah, that's not. But I don't know. The more fun question is who, if Saudi Arabia hosts WrestleMania next year, Greg, who is, besides the ones we already know, who is the name that we're not thinking of that they could want?

1:00:24Yeah, is there one? That could appear on that mania. Is there someone we have? not Undertaker, not Shawn Michaels, not Kane. Forget Stone Cold. Who are we not thinking of? Yes, we all want Stone Cold. Is there someone we're not thinking of? And do they have enough money and do they have enough money to pull off Andre versus Hogan one more time? If they want to poach, I feel like MJF is somebody that they could forgetting that AW people. Is there a legend? I think we've all, everybody who could come back though, I think we've seen them come back. That's the thing. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, gettable.

1:01:10We could still use one more in WWE. Didn't get, wasn't done right. Can we get the Sting Undertaker match? Give me Sting and Undertaker. Let's have a conversation. That's it. That's it. That's the one. It gotta be cinematic though. Fine, make it cinematic. Do whatever. I don't care. Just have Sting. As long as Sting gets to fly down from the top of the stadium, let's not forget, they found ways to do fun things with Sting. I mean, that was one thing they really did well. They covered up his age nicely. You could cover up. By the way, make it a tag match. Fine. Get someone else in with both of them so they don't do much work.

1:01:48But give me the entrances. Give me Sting and the Deadman, baby. Not the Brothers of Destruction, though. Undertaker's going to need another tag partner. Correct. It will not be Kane. give me someone younger with Undertaker someone younger with Sting that to me was that what you had in mind or you hadn't thought of it it's a match that we all always wanted to see but never saw so yeah I mean it's never happening they can't go but even if they did like why why why can't they do the Boneyard match well we won it live what about them on the same team against the Wyatt Six good could you like a cinematic something they're going to want the full Undertaker entrance so that's happening they're going to want the hat that's for sure can't wait to see that again when we go to Saudi Arabia they're going to want Austin they're going to want Shawn Michaels Shawn Michaels versus Brett that might have to be cinematic too that might have to be cinematic too I don't think Brett has working left in him But Brett doing something?

1:02:59Mage. But is there something for Brett to do? Yeah. You'd be a guest referee. It's been a while since we've seen Rick Martell. I'd love to see him back. By the way, if the rumors are true. That's all. By the way, we never get Rick Martell. If the rumors are true that they want everybody, you know, it's going to be everybody, well, then, yeah, they should all be involved. Brett should be the manager for some wrestler against Sean being the manager for some wrestler. Do it all. Guess what? This is why we love wrestling and think it's great because you can find ways to do it. I don't want anyone to tell me about who's too old and who's...

1:03:38You can make it work. There's a way to make it work. That's why we love wrestling. Oh, there's a play for Foley for sure. So many options. I have another idea. Why don't we just do the Royal Rumble at WrestleMania? by the way remember remember the greatest royal rumble it's on the table i did what about the greatestest what about the greatestest the greatest the greatest plus royal rumble all right well at three o 'clock royal rumble night two exactly now at three o 'clock the announcement comes out and as soon as it happens coach will be right here on pro wrestling nation 24 7 to break it all down and we'll discuss it next week from indianapolis where i will be for Wrestlepalooza.

1:04:24SGG, happy birthday. Dip. Stay mage. Ben, Kelly, Zach, Emilio, have a great weekend, everyone. Stay mage.