In short
Coffeez for Closers: Episode Summary
Episode Title
From Wholesaling to 7 Companies | How Justin Colby Built a Real Estate Empire
Host
Joseph Shalaby
Guest
Justin Colby
Episode Overview In this episode of “Coffeez for Closers,” host Joseph Shalaby engages in a deep conversation with Justin Colby, a real estate entrepreneur who transitioned from flipping homes and wholesaling to operating seven diverse companies in the realms of real estate, tech, and education. Justin shares his journey, emphasizing the ever-evolving identity of an entrepreneur, the importance of mindset, and the drive to make a meaningful impact in the business and personal spheres.
Key Themes and Discussions
- Transition and Growth in Business
- Career Evolution: Justin discusses his journey from wholesaling and flipping homes to diversifying into multiple business ventures.
- Scaling Challenges: He addresses the challenges of scaling multiple businesses and emphasizes the difference between merely doing deals and building sustainable companies.
- Mindset Shift: Justin highlights the importance of shifting from an operator to an entrepreneur mindset, focusing on long-term vision rather than short-term gains.
- Importance of Morning Routine
- Personal Practices: Justin details his structured morning routine, which includes waking up at 4:30 AM, journaling, and working out to maintain both mental and physical health.
- Value of Reflection: He stresses the importance of taking time to think and reflect, which he believes is often undervalued in today’s fast-paced world.
- Entrepreneurial Identity and Purpose
- Alignment with Purpose: Justin shares his desire to be known for more than just real estate. He aims to facilitate and provide value in the entrepreneurial space and connect with others positively.
- Impact over Legacy: He explains the difference between focusing on legacy versus making an immediate impact, suggesting that being present and making a difference now is more fulfilling than planning for a legacy that may outlast him.
- Overcoming Adversity
- 2008 Financial Crisis: Both Justin and Joe reflect on the struggles during the 2008 financial crisis, emphasizing resilience and the ability to pivot.
- Lessons Learned: Justin urges anyone facing dire circumstances to maintain perspective, emphasizing that challenges are often less severe than they appear.
- Educational Initiatives
- Entrepreneur DNA Community: Justin introduces his initiative to create a community for aspiring entrepreneurs through his educational platform, offering affordable access to expert knowledge.
- Value Proposition: The platform aims to democratize access to high-quality entrepreneurial education, contrasting the high costs typically associated with such resources.
- Parenting and Personal Values
- Teaching Resilience: Justin discusses how he is instilling values of grit and perseverance in his children by encouraging them to overcome challenges (like learning to roller skate).
- Family Commitment: He emphasizes the importance of being a supportive husband and creating a nurturing environment for his children.
Key Takeaways
- Mindset is Key: Transitioning from an operator to an entrepreneur requires a significant mindset shift focused on purpose and vision.
- Structure and Routine: A disciplined morning routine can significantly enhance productivity and self-reflection.
- Resilience in Adversity: Maintaining a positive perspective during tough times can aid in overcoming seemingly insurmountable challenges.
- Value of Community: Knowledge sharing and mentorship can transform lives, and creating accessible platforms for education is vital for community growth.
Closing Thoughts In this enlightening conversation, Justin Colby inspires listeners by sharing his experiences and insights. The episode is a reminder that success is not just about financial gains but also about the impact one can have on others and the legacy of kindness and service we leave behind.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Power of Morning Routines
0:58 to 4:08
Justin Colby shares his effective morning routine and its significance.
“I mean, the reality is the second I get out of this office, I'm going to go run into my family and I'm going to grab my children and hang out with my wife and I'm going to have dinner and then it's bath time.”
Fitness and Longevity
4:08 to 6:04
Discussion on the importance of fitness for long-term health and energy.
“And so, uh, that again, my family's not up till seven 20 call at seven 30.”
Justin's Entrepreneurial Journey
6:04 to 10:00
Justin outlines his various business ventures and current focus.
“I'm in these companies to some extent that have bolt-on, but then other things that have no bolt-on.”
Finding Alignment in Business
10:00 to 11:58
Justin emphasizes the importance of purpose and alignment in business.
“Cool-ish, just not really what I'm here for.”
From Childhood Hustles to Real Estate
11:58 to 14:00
Justin narrates his early entrepreneurial experiences leading to real estate.
“I'm going to go back in history, 20 years in real estate, started flipping properties at 24 years, 24 years old.”
The Early Hustle: Learning Entrepreneurship
14:00 to 15:10
Learn how early experiences with money shaped an entrepreneurial spirit.
“and Jose Canseco and all these, you know, at the time baseball was a much bigger card play than any of the other sports.”
Facing Adversity: The Impact of 2008
15:10 to 17:10
Explore how the 2008 financial crisis shaped real estate careers.
“What you're saying resonates at a level, you know, I mean, it's like you're saying my story.”
From Realtor to Investor: A Career Shift
17:10 to 19:17
Understand the transition from being a realtor to becoming a real estate investor.
“The repo man took my car and I ended up on a couch.”
Overcoming Rock Bottom: Finding Motivation
19:17 to 21:56
Discover how to find motivation and strength when at your lowest point.
“So the benefit that I got is the market crashed.”
The Privilege of Struggle: A New Perspective
21:56 to 24:25
Learn about the privilege of overcoming struggles and building resilience.
“if you play the whole game, you'll look back and say it wasn't that bad.”
Show all 19 chapters
Patience and Persistence in Business
24:25 to 27:09
Understand the importance of patience and persistence in achieving success.
“So we know that there's green pastures ahead.”
Mastering Technique: Lessons from Fitness
27:09 to 28:05
Learn how mastering technique in fitness parallels success in business.
“So as long as I didn't quit, I was going to get it done.”
The Importance of Technique and Commitment
28:05 to 30:02
Learn how dedication to technique impacts success in various fields.
“enough, you'll keep going through the storm because your purpose of doing it will see your way through.”
Finding Purpose and Alignment in Work
30:02 to 31:28
Discover how aligning personal passions with professional goals can enhance fulfillment.
“So I'm going to talk about some of the things you're doing now.”
Recognizing Strengths and Weaknesses in Business
31:28 to 32:45
Explore the significance of understanding one's strengths and weaknesses in business.
“We have the same vision, the same goal, and another exact thing we both started two years ago.”
Building a Community for Entrepreneurs
32:45 to 35:08
Learn about the Entrepreneur DNA community and its goals for supporting entrepreneurs.
“I know you're very, very busy and I want to wind this down.”
Instilling Values in Children
35:08 to 36:25
Understand the importance of teaching resilience and values to the next generation.
“Like tonight in 15 minutes, we will be doing one.”
Lessons on Parenting and Grit
36:25 to 39:02
Hear how to teach children grit and tenacity through everyday experiences.
“And I know that doesn't sound unique, but I'm old enough to realize the value of young children and how short lived that very young age is and how cute it is.”
Reflections on Life Goals
39:02 to 39:22
Justin shares his perspective on legacy and life's true measures.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Justin Colby:Now, do I want to make a massive impact? Yes, that is why I'm leaning in as I spoke to you off camera into my podcast, The Entrepreneur DNA, because I want to have a massive impact while I am here. The key to that statement is while I am here. If that lives on after me, I love that. But the reality is we are not going to get out here live and we have a very short window to experience as much as we can. So I'm more about being present than building legacy.
0:27Joe Shalaby:Welcome to another episode of Coffees.
0:57Joe Shalaby:you continue to innovate and uh you know you just continue to be an inspiration to so many so thanks for jumping on today's show uh i have a question that i like to ask everybody especially high performers like yourself what's your morning routine my brother so i take that part pretty
1:11Justin Colby:serious i had a mature a little bit to understand the power of your morning but i would encourage any listener uh i'm 44 if you're younger than me take this seriously if you're older than me i would
1:21Joe Shalaby:tell you the same thing so i brawl 44 44 what what birthday april 30th okay i'm august 30th four
1:29Justin Colby:months off you know my older brother i'm telling you we're brothers just right here so um listen i wake up early and the reason being is i wake up at 4 30 and for some that may not be early i've heard people oh i wake up at 3 30 okay i'm not comparing i'm telling you why i want to do it is because i want to be able to have my time i run multiple businesses i'm a husband i'm a father of very young children at the ages of two and five. And I don't have any of me time, right? I mean, the reality is the second I get out of this office, I'm going to go run into my family and I'm going to grab my children and hang out with my wife and I'm going to have dinner and then it's bath time.
2:07Justin Colby:So there's no like Justin Colby time. So where do I find time to hit the gym? Where do I find time to journal? Where do I find time to think? I think people undervalue thinking, right? I believe it to be one of the best things I do all day long is sit with my coffee and think. No phone, no email, no nothing. Just me and my thoughts. And I have a journal. I literally journal all the time. Another undervalued asset is I'm literally journaling all the time. And it's because I want to write down these thoughts. Some great, some useless. Doesn't matter. Want to write them down. And so 4.30, I wake up, grab some coffee.
2:47Justin Colby:I sit and think till about five, five o 'clock. I journal. Uh, I have a five minute journal. You can pick it up on Amazon. Uh, it goes through like three things that you're grateful for, uh, what's going to make today a great day. And then, um, uh, some manifestations, right. Um, and so simple literally five minutes, right. It's amazing. And then, um, you know, I'm roughly ready to answer a couple of emails around five 30, see if anything's, you know necessary and then i'm off to the gym so i'm i'm at the gym till about 6 30 i'm showered and back home at seven because i go to lifetime fitness so it's literally a resort they literally have everything uh and i'm back home at seven my daughter who is uh turning five she's usually up around 720 to 7 30 making breakfast getting lunches ready walking the dog getting her to school i pride myself and i take my daughter to school every single day by the time i get back from taking her to school, it's game on and the world is on me.
3:49Justin Colby:The emails, the texts, the social medias, the, you know, it's all there now. Right. So that is why waking up in the morning to me is so powerful. It's because I get me time. And if your cup is never full, you can't give to others. And so I have a lot of people I need to give to in a given day, just like you do, Joe. I need that to
4:09Joe Shalaby:keep my cup full you know uh we have very similar morning routines i also gym drop off the kids you know i i make smoothies for them but you know i i try to do as much as i can in the morning it's jam-packed man and i continue to add a stack to it you know my morning routine and just like keep
4:27Justin Colby:adding stuff but yeah i just find at night i don't have the same energy to do and be creative and like in the morning, I have a lot of creative juice. And so, uh, that again, my family's not up till seven 20 call at seven 30. Um, so even in the days I don't go to the gym, right. Um, I get so much more creative juice going content creation, podcast creation, all these different things. And so, but I take my fitness very seriously as 44, I went and did the whole workup. I got a CT scan of my entire body and MRI. I want to know what's in my body in the same way. I want to know what's on the exterior.
5:03Justin Colby:I might have muscles, might be lean, but I have no idea what's inside of me. Right. And so I went through all that because I want to live a long life. I want to see my kids have kids. Right. And so we are grinders. We're entrepreneurs. We're high D's, high energy. I don't want to live a short life. Right. I don't want to burn out fast. So to me, fitness exercise is a priority.
5:26Joe Shalaby:Yeah, me too. I probably train twice a day. That's great. between working out jiu-jitsu basketball love it it's like it's the only thing that kind of
5:37Justin Colby:keeps me going yeah that's my energy spark well that and all the coffee i drink coffees for closers right i mean i i slam coffee i'm surprised it's not in front of me i slam coffee all day long and it's bad like it's a bad habit i get it and doctors are like you got to be a little bit
5:52Joe Shalaby:more careful and i'm like give it to matcha out of out of all the bad habits you could have out there i'm gonna be okay with slamming black coffee yeah that's that's all right you're doing all right yeah there's a lot of health benefits now let's dive into like the the entrepreneur experience you you flipped 2300 properties over your lifetime you have seven companies currently what give me the scope of each company like what are you what are you doing i'm in tech i'm in real estate i'm in um funny enough i and i'm not in the operation of it i own a gold mine
6:27Justin Colby:a piece of a gold mine. I'm in these companies to some extent that have bolt-on, but then other things that have no bolt-on. I run two education companies, similar, but aren't directly. I run a real estate education company. I run an entrepreneur education company. That's called the Entrepreneur DNA, same as my podcast. For me, it's really about an alignment thing. I'm actually in a season where those seven companies are going to go down drastically. I'd like to really only have two, maybe three. I'm actually being acquired. My tech company is being literally in the middle of being acquired. They're just finishing up due diligence.
7:06Justin Colby:So I'm releasing some of the stuff that sounds cool, does cool things, but just I'm not in alignment with anymore. I don't want to be in the tech space. It's never been a passion and I don't have a purpose behind it. And if it doesn't fall in line with my purpose, I don't need it. Could there be some huge payday down the road 10 years from now? There could be. There absolutely could be. But if I'm miserable for the next 10 years and that's reflective on my wife and my children, it does no good to make that kind of money. I don't care.
7:35Joe Shalaby:What dollar value is worth your piece? I don't care.
7:38Justin Colby:If it's not in alignment with my purpose, because people talk about follow your passion, the money will come. I agree with that to about 20%. The other part is what is your purpose? If you're purpose-driven of what you're trying to go and create, then the money is going to come. And if that can align with your passion, even better. But I can tell you, little Joe didn't grow up and say, I can't wait to be the biggest, baddest loan officer in the entire planet.
8:04Joe Shalaby:Little Joe didn't have a passion for that.
8:06Justin Colby:And so I say all that just to say where I'm at today and in the bio today is real-time changing. I actually find that to be a source of peace. I think there's a lot of people that hold on to things too long. and this is my identity. I've been a real estate investor for 20 years. 20 years, I've been doing the same thing, flipping homes, wholesaling, buying rentals. You've heard about apartments, storage facilities, the whole thing. Okay. I no longer want to be known just for real estate. I want to be known as someone who facilitates, someone that brings people together, someone that helps other people and offers value to the entrepreneur space.
8:41Justin Colby:That is more in alignment with who I am today than real estate is. I'll forever do real estate. Don't get me wrong. but what am I known for? What is my brand is real time changing because of what I've been able to create through this great platform that you and I have done very well on, which is podcasting.
8:57Joe Shalaby:You know, we are fortunate enough to have made our wealth through real estate mortgage. Obviously we're kind of in the same space, but our purpose isn't this, right? This is where we really find that we're contributing to society. And we contributed, we made real, you know the american dream come alive for many many people and yada yada and that was cool but you and i and i think we're both in alignment on this is like this is our purpose like we really are changing lives helping a lot of people making people's lives better you know i i was getting like fan emails which is people in hardships like what can you you know or whatever you know like stuff that really touched my heart you know like oh that they're like tracking us and listening to us and really like we're influencing them and making them better people and they're you know that that stuff to me is really like that's legacy stuff yeah i and for me i'm at a weird um
9:53Justin Colby:moment where yes i'm i'm interested in legacy it is not my driving purpose and i know a lot of our mutual friends it's all about legacy and building this legacy i realize one thing is with a hundred percent certainty we're not making it out of this trip alive nope right so while i am here is more important than my legacy now do i want to make a massive impact on the world yes that is why i'm leaning in as i spoke to you off camera into my podcast the entrepreneur net dna is because i want to have a massive impact while i am here but the key to that statement is while i am here if that lives on after me i love that but the reality is we are not going to get out of here live and we have a very short window to experience as much as we can so i'm more about being in present than building legacy that can happen and that is great it is not my driving force and i know that's that's um counterintuitive or or uh what's the word it's against what a lot of us in our space kind of feel like, oh, we're trying to build this big legacy play.
10:59Justin Colby:Cool-ish, just not really what I'm here for. I'm here to actually be present in the moment.
11:05Joe Shalaby:I make an impact. Yeah, for me, it's more like just being of service. This is where we could be of service and do God's work and have a plan and voice an opinion that's, you know, in a society where the world's kind of gone mad with so many different, so many different false ideologies. Because I'm speaking truth on this podcast, and I'm sure you are too.
11:27Justin Colby:Yeah. Well, that's you being present. That's you being in the moment, right? That's very much in alignment with what I'm saying, right? It's like you're trying to make an impact now. If that impact is big, it will last forever. It will create a legacy in and of itself. I do love real estate because the legacy play, if you will. But I think with all the different ways to structure legacy financially, real estate can be a part of it, but it doesn't have to be all of it. And so again, to your point, I want to make massive impact, but I want to make it now. I want to be real time and I want to enjoy my kids.
12:01Joe Shalaby:Now I'm going to dive. I'm going to go back in history, 20 years in real estate, started flipping properties at 24 years, 24 years old. When did you know that you wanted to be an entrepreneur and what inspired you specifically to get into the real estate space?
12:16Justin Colby:So knowing when versus when I became one, two separate answers. I was an entrepreneur since is literally my earliest memory. So a young kid riding bikes around the neighborhood, I would take it upon myself because in California, you would get paid, I think at the time it was 10 cents for a bottle and five cents for a cam. And I would drive around on my bike and have two garbage bags. And as fast as I possibly could, I'd wake up in the morning, 6 a.m., start going and filling up these garbage bags with all of my neighbors in my neighborhoods needs recycling, right? California is big on recycling.
12:51Justin Colby:I would then drive it down to the recycling on my bike, drive these two bags, one on each handle down to the recycling bin so I could get paid, right? Everyone's just recycling and doing good by the planet. I'm like, oh, I could go make money because I want to go buy baseball cards, which leads me to the next thing I was doing. I would go take the money. I would go to the baseball card store. I would buy a box of baseball cards for$20. Nowadays that we're talking like some of these things are like 50 ,000, but let's just even say that the, you know, I collect cards with my boys.
13:21Joe Shalaby:So I'm big in the card.
13:23Justin Colby:I'm huge into it here. Like I literally have like six of these and I'm still, I don't know where I'm. Oh, nice.
13:30Joe Shalaby:You're still, you're still ripping packs right now.
13:32Justin Colby:Yeah, dude. I mean, I'm in the game. So I say that because literally since I was six years old, right that is a real time i'm 44 right now so when you said i know i wanted to be like a kid i would rip a box just like this that would be 20 bucks i just paid almost 149 for this one box that's the big box though um and i would rip it in front of the store owner i would wholesale him the cards that he wanted to sell at retail so at the time you know barry bonds and mark mcguire and Jose Canseco and all these, you know, at the time baseball was a much bigger card play than any of the other sports. Uh, I would make$40.
14:13Justin Colby:So I replaced the$20 I bought it for plus the 20 and I would leave. So I've been this way prior to even understanding what I was doing. Right. Then it was the washing cards hustle, right? When I got a little older, I'd go around my neighborhood and wash cars for$5 at a chunk. I've done everything since a kid, not knowing what I was doing because I had a rough childhood. So I had to depend on myself. I didn't come from money. So like if I wanted something for the most part, I had to go make money to pay for it right now. I'll set that aside for a second. I was not destitute. I don't have those huge stories of like homelessness.
14:51Justin Colby:I didn't have that. And I'm sorry if you're out there listening and you did, but I definitely did not have money, right? I didn't have extra money. So like ice cream, baseball cards, I had to go make the money. So anyways, the long answer, I've been this way since my earliest memories.
15:10What you're saying resonates at a level, you know, I mean, it's like you're saying my story.
15:16Joe Shalaby:Yeah. You know, like ripping packs, going to baseball card shops, flipping cars. I mean, there's a lot. The way I teach my kids now, my boys, entrepreneurship is through cards. So we'll go to shows and we'll buy cards. We'll flip them at shows. And they'll transact thousands of dollars at the shows. People are just throwing hundreds at them. And they'll take that money and then they'll go buy mystery packs and they'll come back and flip them at our booth. So there's a lot of entrepreneurial spirit in cards with children that the kids could learn at a very early age. I had the founder of Major League Profits, which is the biggest coaching program for card collect cards.
16:03Joe Shalaby:I had him on my podcast and I flew him down just so he can meet my son because my son was part of the program with all these adults, you know, like creating cards. So, man, your entrepreneur spirit started with cards. We had a lot, again, same thing. I grew up poor, but I didn't grow up destitute. I'm just an immigrant. My parents came from Egypt, came at five. So very, very similar with how our journey started in the entrepreneur space. But what's even more intriguing is that we both experienced 2008. and when 08 hit me, I owned my own mortgage company and it was an absolute crash. I lost my house.
16:44Joe Shalaby:I lost my business. I had to start a new company. I was in mortgage. I was like, mortgage industry just crashed. I had to pivot. I still stayed in mortgage, but I switched to loss mitigation. What was it like for you in 08? Because you couldn't pivot into a completely different side of the mortgage space because mortgage was like, okay, you can't do mortgages. well i'm going to prevent everybody from going into foreclosure so i pivoted on that but there was a lot of opportunity after you know 2010 11 in the foreclosure space to buy and acquire foreclosures but that's how did you pivot how did you survive oh wait and what is it what are the some of the greatest lessons that you learned during the biggest crash that we've experienced
Read the full transcript
17:22Justin Colby:in american history since 1930s so i to some extent like you had to change industry so i was realtor during the crash. I also lost my home to foreclosure. The repo man took my car and I ended up on a couch. So I wasn't married with any children. So I was a single guy on a couch, but I was destitute broke, right? Like it literally, the repo man took my car, the bank took back the home foreclosure, the whole thing. But I realized I no longer wanted to be a realtor. I wanted to be an investor because right about then is where, you know, flip this house started to hit TV, I believe. And I loved real estate and understood what real estate could do for the wealth accumulation.
18:02Justin Colby:And then I really kind of had this idea of real estate is the only industry at the time I understood that could create a high level of income and could attain a lot of wealth at the same time in the same industry. You can make a lot of money day trading. You can make a lot of money selling loans. You can't create wealth selling loans. So industry specific, real estate, I said, okay, I can make a lot of money flipping homes and I can acquire a lot of these same properties because I'm an investor and I make money and I put that money into a rental and then I have wealth. And so I did an industry change to some extent, very much in alignment, but I no longer worked as a realtor.
18:42Justin Colby:I worked as an investor. And because I was broke, the only thing I knew to do was cold call. I had no marketing budget. I had no presence. I had no name. I had nothing to lean on. I had a phone, which my friend had to pay my monthly bill, by the way. And I had coffee and I just called every day, six days a week. People think there's a five day a week work week. Absolutely not. Not for us hustlers. I mean, the reality is I still work on Sundays today. I'm 44 years old. Now it's not the same kind of work, right? But I'm still doing things, business. So that was it. And I went full into real estate.
19:17Justin Colby:So the benefit that I got is the market crashed. So my barrier of entry lowered drastically. I was living in San Francisco on a couch and Phoenix literally dropped in 50%. Homes that were selling for 150 grand are now selling for 50 grand. And so I just said, okay, well, that's going to be an investor marketplace. I'm going to start calling realtors at a business partner at the time. And we just went, we didn't know what the hell we were doing. Right. And, uh, that led into an incredible 20 year span and, uh, you know, ups and downs along that span. But, you know, I did wish I knew what I do now and bought more of these$50 ,000 homes because those same homes are selling for 500 grand now.
19:59Justin Colby:Yeah.
20:01Joe Shalaby:So what do you think was like, what was really driving you? you hit rock bottom living on a couch, you know, and a lot of people when they're in that position feel like they're screwed. There's no way out. What would you tell somebody in that position right now that was in that position that you were in? And then what really was the catalyst for you to crawl out, to kick your way out, to fight your way out of that destitute position you were in life at that point?
20:30Justin Colby:To some extent, the idea of like, you can't really get any worse. right i mean i literally have no income you know i walked away my credit's ruined so when you put a line in a corner what's their only option to fight their way out and so some of it is this kind of like well i can't get any lower than literally have knowing income no credit no nothing i got to do something right the other part of it it was innately in as a trait that I have is this kind of shoulder shrug mentality that not that bad, right? I'm at the lowest of lows. Not that bad. I can go create more. Now that's not teachable. I can't go out and podcast and teach that.
21:18Justin Colby:But what I did know is I had the ability to go create it again. I created it once. I could go create it again. I just needed to learn the vertical I was in, which was fixing flipping. And if someone's out there listening to this and is on destitute's doorstep, right? Like I was right. You've just lost it all. It all came crashing down. It's never as bad in your head as it is in real life. What you make it to be is worse than the reality it is played out on the field. And the reason why you're able to say that is because if you play the whole game, you'll look back and say it wasn't that bad. In a moment in time, it feels like death.
22:06Justin Colby:It feels like your life is over. But what you don't recognize is the same way you felt when you lost your high school sweetheart because you thought you were going to last forever. In that moment, it is catastrophic. Your life is over. You are embarrassed to go show your face on school again. Everyone is ridiculing you. You are done. And then you grow up and you look back at that fondly and say, God, what a cute kid I was. How adorable were we as a couple? I promise everyone listening, as Joe is laughing to himself, that is the same concept that happens in business. When you are going through it, when you're in, you feel like it's over and you give yourself enough runway on the field and you play enough of the game, you're able to look back at that and say, well, I made it through that too.
22:56Justin Colby:And it wasn't really that bad. And I, there's no way for someone to really believe me or Joe in this example until you go through it and you come out from it and you go, oh shit, they are right. But it's also why you hire coaches. It's why you're a part of masterminds. We talked about a mastermind, Joe, you and I, our friend Dan runs like, Like that's why is you want to get ahead of it and you want to learn from people who have gone through it so you can get a buddy to grab you around their neck and say, dude, you got this. Not that big of a deal. I'll give you some things and tools and resources and people to help you out, but you're going to get through it.
23:33Justin Colby:Just keep your head down. Keep focused. Keep going. Adapt, iterate, right? So I, listen, it is a privilege that we have to go through our problems, Joe. It's a privilege, which is counterintuitive to what most people would think. The reason why it's a privilege, because you know what's really fucking hard? Living in Haiti with no clean water and no food. That's really hard. Living in a hut that doesn't have a roof, basically just four brick walls. And I've been to the DR a lot. Like the DR in Haiti butt up against. Like I've been to the poorest parts of the world. That is really hard. having a bad business deal or a bad financial time or a bad economy doing what we do.
24:18Justin Colby:Not fun, but it's a privilege to overcome that because what that will do for you is it'll prove to you what you can do. And the person who crumbles will only go deeper in crumbling because now they've lost all sense of confidence to know that they can go do hard shit and overcome
24:37Joe Shalaby:hardship you know you talk about privilege like we are so privileged like i say this all the time on my podcasts like i get to sit with some of the most brilliant people who have suffered the most and i get this one-on-one coaching call with them and if nobody's listening and nobody benefits i benefit the most i get such incredible mentorship from these podcasts and the relationships i build and if people don't seek mentorship and they don't seek a what because if they're just sitting there dwelling. So we know that there's green pastures ahead. We know that we just got to make it through. We know that God never gives us more than we can handle.
25:14Joe Shalaby:But if no one's kind of instilling that in your mind, it's hard to overcome. Now, hopefully people are listening to podcasts or they're doing something that enables them to have that fortitude and that strength and that mental tenacity. But the average person is not thinking like that. The average person is suffering internally. They're not looking for mentorship. They're going, I'm screwed. This is my life. Look where I live. Look, I'm poor. My parents, this, that, the other million excuses. And they're just this, why me mentality. And to that person.
25:49Justin Colby:Yeah. And the other component of that is they think the answer is quick. And you and I both know, Joe, 2007 and eight happened. The rebound wasn't quick. The rebound has been great in the real estate space. If you really look at it, We are well beyond where we would have been if we just would have camped at the same trajectory of 2005 and six. But the reality is people want to go make this change and get the result quick. And so I use a lot of times this idea of, you know, the gym and fitness, like you got to play the long game and all of this. You can't go to the gym for a month and expect to have a six pack.
26:25Justin Colby:Right. And then there's all these bolt on or variables and nuances like, okay, well now you are being consistent at the gym. What are you eating? Right. Now you got to watch your diet and intake and calories and protein versus carbs. I just say all this, say if you're at that moment, but you're ready to make the change, you need to be ready to make change, but also don't expect the result to happen overnight. Don't expect for you to leave the couch. That's my story. I was sleeping on a couch. It took me nine months to get my very first deal, nine months. You know what I didn't do? I didn't quit.
26:58Justin Colby:I didn't give up because I saw people doing the very same thing I wanted to do. I knew because I saw it, it was real. I could do it. I didn't have to have some business degree to go do this flipping home thing. I saw them doing it. So as long as I didn't quit, I was going to get it done. And that would be the bigger highlight that I think people need to focus on is make sure you are someone who has the stamina to stay in the game. This is why I talk about purpose over passion. Passion can only take you so far. When the storm comes, and the storm always comes, I'll remind you, the storm always comes.
27:38Justin Colby:When the storm comes, your passion can waver. I use the example of I love ice cream. Love it. Do I want to go run an ice cream shop seven days a week, 15 hours a day? Absolutely not. But I love, I'm passionate about my, I love it. You got to purpose over passion. and you want to create purpose in alignment, hopefully with your passion. But if it's big enough, you'll keep going through the storm because your purpose of doing it will see your way through. You'll be convicted.
28:14Joe Shalaby:You know, you talked about like, you know, being committed to the gym and it brings up a point. I actually experienced this today. So I, I train with a personal trainer a couple of days a week and I only train two things, deadlift and squat Monday is Tuesdays. And today we were dead lifting 295 pounds. My trainer says this to me. He's like, once you get to the really heavy weights, your technique is everything. Like, so my technique, I've been training this for years and my technique still is off with the heavy weights. Like people don't understand the level of intensity and how hard you have to work and how precise and how, not only like consistent, but now to your point, like now you're, you're, you're eating.
28:55Joe Shalaby:Now your technique has to be perfect. Now it's like you want to get to the big leagues, now master your technique. And that relates to everything in your profession. That relates to everything in your health. That relates to everything in your fitness protocol, your goals. Your technique has to be precise, consistent. And that level of dedication and commitment is another level. And people have to understand that once you get to the big leagues, your technique has to get even better. It's not like I made it to the big leagues. I'm here. I made it. I'm deadlifting 300 pounds. No, no. You're deadlifting.
29:31Joe Shalaby:Now the real work starts.
29:33Justin Colby:Yeah. That's why, again, use the sports analogy, every major player had coaches through their whole career because to level up, you've never been to that level. You would need a coach that can support you at that level. Otherwise, you're going to be lost again, right? The challenge is you're at a new level. It's all new, different challenges. If you don't have someone guiding you at that level, the same way they guided you at a lower level, you're going to end up with some big problems.
30:02Joe Shalaby:So I'm going to talk about some of the things you're doing now. So you want to pivot right now from real estate and you want to have a greater purpose. Yeah.
30:14Justin Colby:Real estate's going to always be there but i you and i've been given the gift right not a lot of people get a platform like we have podcasting a lot of people start podcasts but they don't go anywhere and i think it is my real you know do you believe in like being in a state of flow and energetic passion and like you're just
30:32Joe Shalaby:in alignment is the word most commonly used when i'm podcasting when i am hosting when i am being
30:39Justin Colby:featured on that I am in true alignment. Like I am, there could be fires going on all around this room right now. I wouldn't even notice it because I'm just so dialed in and that is unique. And in the last 20 years, I don't think I've really ever felt it in the way I'm feeling it in this last two years because this, the entrepreneur DNA podcast launched two years ago, right? And it has just been on a rocket ship the whole time and so i just i'm not willing to ignore that calling and that feeling anymore so while i'll always do now bigger you know apartment type deals um i'm not willing to to ignore this energetic alignment and flow that i'm in and i'm going all in on it because i have a great rolodex i know a lot of people who can make a lot of impact and we just talked about legacy that that ultimately could be the legacy that i leave is I brought all these brilliant experts in their field of expertise to the marketplace to help other entrepreneurs win the game of entrepreneurship.
31:44Joe Shalaby:We have the same vision, the same goal, and another exact thing we both started two years ago.
31:51Justin Colby:No kidding.
31:53Joe Shalaby:Yeah, and it's been on a rocket ship the whole time too. Yeah. So it's like, talk about alignment. You know, like, yeah, we're in a state of flow. This is where I find my passion. I just, you know, again, I'm the CEO, the founder of the company. My partner runs the whole company, having a big department meeting, all the departments are there. I'm like, I don't want to go there. I'm going to do this. Like I'm in alignment here. Like I don't, you know, this is what I do. I grow the company. I grow the brand. I'm in alignment here. This is my purpose. You know, I don't need the minutia of operations.
32:25Joe Shalaby:That's like my drag. You know, like that's like, yeah, I'm not that guy.
32:30Justin Colby:i had to take a you know we talked about a bad real estate deal that i did it's because operationally i'm not that guy you know i took my eye off the ball and that's okay but i was able to recognize where my strengths and weaknesses are and i just said i don't i don't want to do that anymore i was basically working against my natural ability if that made any sense right so if i was always meant to be a quarterback i was playing running back and it's kind of like that's not my highest use of of expertise this is yeah it's not it's not your talent
33:03Joe Shalaby:so that's uh there there are people who are just they are operators totally that's what they do you know and uh that's the yin and yang of running any big business i'm fortunate enough to have found that yang for me um best friend from high school and he's always been that way since we kids. Yeah, it's great. And I've always been this way.
33:22Justin Colby:Lucky you.
33:23Joe Shalaby:Yeah. God is always good, man. He's watching out. I know you're very, very busy and I want to wind this down. I got a couple very, very serious questions for you as we wind down here. What is a personal goal, Justin, that you have for yourself? A business goal that you have for your business?
33:41Justin Colby:So my personal goal for my business is I want to get my community, the Entrepreneur DNA community on school up to 100 ,000 entrepreneur members because I will continue to do a podcast today with experts in their industry to pour into the members so that instead of being the Justin Colby lost on a couch, you can learn from the person who's going to be able to teach you and engage with that same person and talk to that same person. And they're not untouchable because I'm asking them to engage with you and I can make a bigger impact on the entrepreneur space. So 100 ,000 members in my group. I'm not going to say when because my fifth principle of success is you never put a timeframe on the result you're trying to achieve.
34:21Justin Colby:So as fast as I can get there, I'm going to get 100 ,000 people in this group.
34:27Joe Shalaby:And the group is live?
34:28Justin Colby:The group is live. You guys are the first to really even hear about it. So if you go to school and you go to the entrepreneur DNA, it is live. It's$25 a month. I'm keeping it affordable because the same Justin Colby that was sleeping on a couch would love to have learned from these experts. And I could have found$25 a month to pay for that, where all the other gurus and coaches and everyone's charging 10, 15,$20 ,000. I'm not going that route. I want to lead with value first.
34:58Joe Shalaby:And let me ask you that that school program you've launched, you're basically doing kind of like a podcast or interviews with experts every single day? No.
35:08Justin Colby:So we'll do two to four of those a week. Like tonight in 15 minutes, we will be doing one. This tonight's call is about a LinkedIn expert because social media is a must have. And this individual understands how to build yourself and frame yourself so that you can make more sales and grow your business specific to link in. Thursday will be about your habits and priorities that you do each and every day are the reason why you're successful or not. So what are your habits looking like? So all these experts will be coming in, but they'll be teaching. It will not be an interview. It'll be genuine teaching their expertise and an open Q &A.
35:48Justin Colby:So they'll be able to talk to Greg Cardone or Dean Graciosi or Ryan Serhant or Russell Brunson or all these people that I have on my podcast. they'll be able to actually be able to engage with them without having to pay them a ton of money to ask them the questions they want to know about their expertise
36:06Joe Shalaby:what great value what a great resource to all the listeners now make sure you sign up for his school it's going to bring you a ton of value change your life make you a better person uh what's a family goal that you have family belief is that what you said so oh family goal i have one priority
36:24Justin Colby:to spend as much time with these little kids as I possibly can to raise them into the best people. And I know that doesn't sound unique, but I'm old enough to realize the value of young children and how short lived that very young age is and how cute it is. So my biggest goal is to make sure that they're well taught, they're well mannered, they understand good and what is right and what is wrong. It's all I really care about. And to be a loyal, loving, supportive husband, because my wife, listen, I fight business dragons all day. They're business dragons and I fight them every day. My wife has these two kids all day, all day long.
36:59Justin Colby:And I promise you this, I could never trade jobs with her ever. A, I have no desire to. I'm not built that way. But what she does, she's the real hero in the family. She's the one that makes it go around. She's the glue. She's the rock. I try to applaud her every chance I possibly can because I could never do what she does.
37:19Joe Shalaby:God bless, man. that's amazing i i did forget to ask you one question before i finish my last question is how are you instilling that same level of grit tenacity work ethic in your children now because they're growing up in a life of abundance and that's how i grow up yeah it's challenging
37:37Justin Colby:sure roller skates for example this weekend is my daughter's birthday she got a pair of her first roller skate she's five years old so how i'm teaching this is to not give up right is she obviously it was very hard for hours but i just stayed with her it was intentional and kept looking her in the eye and kept picking her up and say you don't you want to ride these things then you're gonna have to learn how to ride them and you don't quit and complain want to take them off no you want to ride them so we will learn how to ride them it just takes time so i'm teaching them through the mindset that it takes uh because the world is tough well so is learning how to roller skate at five years old right and so as long as she can overcome that and learn to keep going i this morning was a another brilliant moment i would when i drop her off at school i say make it a great day why and then she has to say because i can choose to make it a great day she has to say that back to me every single morning and then uh this morning she's leaving the house and she tells her two-year-old brother who barely is talking hey jace make it a great day because why and he can't say the end of it but because i've said this to her every single day she's trying to embed that into my two-year-old son and those are the moments that you go i'm doing something right i don't know at all when it comes to parenting but i'm doing something right i like that i'm gonna steal that
39:02Joe Shalaby:that's why i love this show because i get to take so many great tidbits from these brilliant people like yourself last question yeah when you're in front of the pearly gates what do you think god's
39:14Justin Colby:going to tell you well done well done and play you left it all on the field you did what i asked you led with your heart well done justin you've been a pleasure to have on the show if people want to connect with you how can they find you instagram's my best platform please let me know you heard me here so the justin colby that's it the justin colby say you heard me on coffees for closers, Joe's show, whatever. I will say, what's up? I don't have bots in there. I don't have all that jazz. It is really me communicating with you. And then I would tell you, go check out the school program. The entrepreneur DNA on school is 25 bucks a month.
39:56Justin Colby:If you are an entrepreneur, if you're aspiring entrepreneur, if you're a veteran, grizzly veteran entrepreneur, I'm bringing the best in the space to, to help guide you in each vertical.
40:05Joe Shalaby:Let's go. Justin, God bless you. Hope you crush every single one of your goals. you've been an absolute pleasure to have on the show
40:12Justin Colby:appreciate you Joe
From the publisher
Justin Colby built his career in real estate flipping and wholesaling — but he didn’t stop there. Today, he operates seven companies across real estate, tech, and entrepreneurship.
In this episode of Coffeez for Closers, Justin breaks down:
• How he transitioned from flipping homes and wholesaling deals
• Why he no longer wants to be known for just one strategy
• What it takes to scale multiple businesses at once
• The difference between doing deals and building companies
• The mindset shift from operator to entrepreneur
This conversation goes beyond tactics. It’s about identity, evolution, and long-term vision.
If you’re in real estate, entrepreneurship, or scaling phase — this episode will expand how you think.
Top producers at E Mortgage Capital are earning more per deal—with faster closings, better tech, and no junk fees.
👉 Learn more: https://join.emortgagecapital.com


