Warrior to Visionary ft. Rafi Anteby | Coffeez for Closers with Joe Shalaby

14 Feb 2025 · 48 min

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Podcast Information

  • Title: Coffeez for Closers with Joe Shalaby
  • Host: Joseph Shalaby, Broker and CEO of E Mortgage Capital Inc.
  • Episode Title: Warrior to Visionary ft. Rafi Anteby
  • Episode Description: In this episode, Joseph Shalaby interviews Rafi Anteby, who shares his extraordinary journey from the Israeli military to becoming a Daoist monk and wellness entrepreneur. The discussion centers on purpose, community, and evolving in business.

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Key Themes and Insights

Rafi Anteby's Journey

  • Background: Shifts from military service in Israel to studying martial arts (Kung Fu, Tai Chi, Qi Gong) and becoming a Daoist monk.
  • Entrepreneurship: Founder of Bullets 4 Peace, which transforms spent bullet casings into jewelry, and Rafi Lounge, a wellness center in Malibu.
  • Philosophy: Emphasizes community, mindfulness, and the connections made over meaningful interactions.

Morning Routine

  • Structure: Rafi shares a detailed morning routine starting at 5 AM, focusing on gratitude, nature connection, and physical fitness.
  • Gratitude Practice: Begins each day with a prayer of thanks.
  • Nature Connection: Engages in Zhang Zhong Qigong by meditating near a tree, utilizing the tree's energy to rejuvenate.
  • Physical Exercise: Alternates between gym workouts and martial arts practice (Kung Fu/Tai Chi).

Rafi Lounge

  • Concept: A wellness center that combines ancient wellness practices with modern community needs.
  • Holistic Approach: Incorporates various wellness modalities, including meditation, sound baths, acupuncture, and biohacking techniques.
  • Community Focus: Aims to combat isolation and promote healing through shared experiences and interactions.
  • Vision for Growth: Plans to expand Rafi Lounge into a wellness hotel that offers comprehensive retreats, maintaining a focus on quality and personalized experiences.

Overcoming Challenges

  • Personal Health Journey: Rafi recounts his experience overcoming a diagnosis of age-related macular degeneration (AMD) through holistic practices, including Qigong and acupuncture.
  • Mental Health Insights: Discusses the rise of anxiety in modern society and the importance of balancing emotional health with physical well-being.

Life Philosophy

  • Being Present: Stresses the significance of being present in each moment and valuing interactions with others.
  • Mantras and Reflections: Shares the mantra "be like water," emphasizing adaptability and flow in life.
  • Personal Goals: Focuses on surrounding himself with loved ones and continuing to prioritize health and personal growth.

Future Aspirations

  • Personal: Aims to maintain healthy relationships and explore new biohacking technologies.
  • Business: Plans to scale the Rafi Lounge concept, potentially creating a series of wellness retreats while ensuring the core values and quality are upheld.

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Discussion Points

  • The Importance of Community: Rafi argues that healing and personal growth are enhanced through community interactions, especially in the wake of the pandemic.
  • Holistic Wellness: Highlights the need to approach wellness as a multi-faceted endeavor, addressing financial, emotional, and spiritual health.
  • Technology and Wellness: Emphasizes the effective use of technology, like AI, in personal development and health management.

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Key Takeaways

  • Innovate with Purpose: Embrace change and use personal experiences to create impactful business models.
  • Balance is Key: Recognize that wellness encompasses various aspects of life, including mental, emotional, and physical well-being.
  • Cultivate Connections: Foster genuine relationships and be present in interactions to enhance life satisfaction.

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Conclusion The episode with Rafi Anteby offers a rich exploration of personal transformation, community healing, and the holistic approach to wellness. Rafi’s insights encourage listeners to reflect on their own lives, embrace adaptability, and prioritize meaningful connections in both personal and professional realms.

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For further engagement, check out Rafi Lounge on Instagram at [@raffilounge](https://www.instagram.com/raffilounge) for updates and wellness offerings.

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0:00From the streets of Israel to Hollywood's most exclusive circles, Raffi Antibi is a man who reinvents himself at every turn. Martial artist, jewelry designer, entrepreneur, and the creator of Rafi Lounge, where the world's most influential minds come to connect. He built a space where business meets mindfulness, where networking is an art form, and where success isn't just about what you do, it's about who you become. Today on Coffees, we get inside the mind of Rafi Antiby on building a brand that attracts the elite, the power of community, and why the biggest deals don't happen in boardrooms, they happen over coffee.

0:42Welcome to the show. Hello, hello. Thank you for such a welcome. Yeah, you know what, Rafi, we've been hanging out already for over an hour and I'm a big fan. I appreciate it. Thank you. I'm a big fan of everything that you're doing. I'm a big fan of the vision that you have behind this wellness center, what you've done with Bullets for Peace. I mean, and you as just an overall human being you know we connect at a soul level right yes that's what i wanted to tell you i feel the same i talked to you now for an hour and i said some people you can really see that there's going to be a long time relationship and a very fruitful one in a very pure way yes exactly and we're we're aligned mentally spiritually you know and demographically too so yes yeah it's been great rafi um let's talk about uh like some of the vision that you had when Well, first off, before I get into the vision of what you had, I'd like to start every podcast with how do you start your morning?

1:38What is your morning routine? And I want to know this one. My morning starts at five o 'clock in the morning. I wake up. The first thing that I do is I thank God. That's the first thing I do. I thank God. It's a little thing prayer that says that I thank him for what he gave me. and I'm thanking him for trusting me and putting me back in my body to do what I'm supposed to do for the day and be happy about everything that he's been giving me. Right after that, obviously I don't drink or I take my shower, but I don't drink or eat. I go straight to work out. The first thing that I do is I will go outside by my house to a tree.

2:17It's still early morning and I do what we call zan zhong qigong, which is a meditation with a tree. The tree in China, there's millions of people that stand by the tree every early morning because it's well known to them that the trees throw a lot of chi in the morning and a lot of oxygen, as we all know. And that allows you to rejuvenate all your cells in the body, all the organs. So that's the first thing that I'll do. Any tree? Any tree. Not a young tree. Like if it's a tree that you see is still young, let him grow. But any big tree, throw. Because tree feeds you. Tree are probably the most loving, unconditional love that they can give to anybody because all they need is some water and sun and they will give oxygen to all of us.

2:59Without trees, we wouldn't exist. We just wouldn't exist. So by standing with a tree, the Zhang Zhong Qigong is a way that you allow yourself to receive a lot of Qi and also to let go of all negative energies to the ground. So it's very important to be. So the first thing that I want to do is bring gratitude and then connect to nature. Those are the two things. And right after that, I'm going to the gym. I'm going to the gym. I do my workout. I split my workouts to chest, triceps, back, biceps, shoulders, legs. And I do two cycles a week. And then I will practice some Tai Chi or Kung Fu. Depends on the day.

3:38So by about 8 o 'clock, 8.30, I'm ready to come to the lounge. That's really my morning routine. So how long is the meditative perspective when you're standing in front of the tree and then doing your gratitude? All that is about half an hour. Half an hour you do 20 minutes and 10 minutes. And walk me through some of the practice of standing in front of the tree. Is it deep breathing? Well, the main thing is really to know that you should breathe always from Dante. And we as human beings, we start to breathe from here, get fed from here as a baby before we even were born. And then slowly, slowly we raise up to the chest level.

4:13The chest level in Chinese medicine, it's considered as fire chi, and that controls your emotions. So imagine that something that controls your emotion, you all the time feed it. That means that all your decision-making is going to come from emotion level, and not always it should be the case. There should be a balance. So by breathing back to dantian, which is two fingers under your belly button, that allows your rational mind to take over, and then you balance. So I breathe from Dantian. I always put my tan up to the upper palate because that connect yin and yang channel in the body And I inhale from the nose and exhale from the mouth very slow Very mindful by my breath and always the e what they call in Chinese the intention is very important What do you do so always see that light force coming from the tree?

4:59Penetrate through the Bai Hui point Which is the hundred gate here right here at the top of the head goes into Dantian and then expand into the all parts of the body and beyond because our physical body and our metaphysical body are two different things so I go all the way above they call it in Chinese which is surrounding energy or or what we call in English Wow that is very deep and people just don't know any of this stuff that you're talking about I know I know it's in China a lot of people doing it but people don't understand and people don't wake up six o 'clock in the morning to see the Chinese people stand by the tree.

5:34But if you go to Beijing, to any park, to the Imperial Palace, anywhere in the north, I was a monk in Wudan in China. But anyway, you go early morning, you will see hundreds and thousands of people standing by the trees. And how close in proximity do you have to be to a tree? About three, four feet. So you'll see people surrounding a tree. Yes. But you have to be in the front row. You can't be in the back row. You can be anywhere, because it really doesn't matter. I stand very close because there's nobody there. But even if I stand 20, 30 feet, It's okay because here is the thing roots of the tree go way deeper than what we see, right?

6:08So they go 30, 40 feet downwards and sideways. As a matter of fact, if you go, there's a place called Trinidad. It's a little secret place that now I'm talking about to me. But if you go to Northern California, Trinidad is one of the most magical places in the world. And they've got a redwood forest that is 5 ,000 years old. And you see some trees that got burned and they burn in the base. and they're still flowering and have leaves and everything at the top. And the explanation to it is that there's a whole organism supporting, life-supporting system that's happening underground between the trees in the roots level.

6:44And they're supporting each other and feed each other. So they are very much, when they feel that something needs help, the roots send a lot of nutrition. So the best thing to do is if you can do it, is really do it barefoot. But it doesn't matter if you're not barefoot because, again, the intention will allow you to go through the process fascinating fascinating okay that that went uh deeper than i expected on a morning routine and that was super insightful and i'm gonna i'm like in my head while you're talking i'm like gonna think about where i can stand in the morning and just to add that to my meditative any tree you just go down the street and you find a tree and you stand and it's fine and you stop close your eyes so that nobody look at you and says what are you doing but you know i mean you look to any look at sufis rumi um kabbalah every every religion and every scholarship and every esoteric study will tell you that some of the practice is standing or hugging a tree it's amazing how much it does for you you hear about it in a dysphemism perspective like oh they're tree huggers yes those are the people trying to save trees exactly exactly but but there's much more to it yeah there is much more to it now uh Now, tell me the idea of evolving Rafi Lounge into what it is and, you know, kind of so the general public knows what is Rafi Lounge, what is the goal of Rafi Lounge and the vision behind it.

8:05Okay. Rafi Lounge happened because it's really happened in pandemic. When 2020, when we were in the midst of pandemic and everything went really shut down, I actually did something else. I took my Jeep and I said, well, God gave me a gift is to see America, bear no people and just see nature. So I did something called Untouched for one month. And I traveled all the way to Yellowstone and Trinidad that I found and all those places. And just so nature. When I came back, there was such an isolation and such a fear-based mood in everybody. Remember, I went to a gas station and I didn't see really many people.

8:44and I went to the gas station and I put gas and somebody suddenly jumped on the side and I said, are you okay? And he was with a mask. He says, well, you're putting a gas without a glove. You remember how fear-based everything was? So I said, gosh, that's not okay. People are just not okay. So as I'm going in my mind, somebody told me about this balcony here in Malibu and I came to see it and there was nothing on it. And then I said, I'll take it. And I decided I need to bring community together and let them understand that there is something to say about a number one community and how you interact with other people that that's a very important portion of being healed being alone is not necessarily healing being in meditation and mountain for years that's not necessarily healing and number two is to bring the past experience that i have in my life in many modalities, if I was a monk in China, if I was in the entertainment world, and bring all those laughter and wellness modalities that are ancient as well as futuristic, and allow people to come into a new world where they understand.

9:53And I think pandemic somehow teach everybody. They really realize that actually I don't need four walls to create a whole business. I don't need to be stagnated in a building that is closed to really be successful. And also, when I see the people that come in here to the ceiling modalities, I understand that financial is part of that. I see how many people, when you, bottom line, when you tell them, well, okay, let's do a manifestation course. What do you want to see? Well, I want to see more money in my life. It's one of the main things. So obviously, it disturbs you. Obviously, it makes you have lack of sleep, and it infects your whole well-being.

10:29So holistic approach for me was the whole purpose behind Raffi Lounge to bring different modalities of wellness, anything that comes from ancient modalities like acupuncture, meditation, sound bath, Reiki, all those things that we do, all the way to more than one, like body sculpting. And like you do right now, we're doing the core plunge and bring all the way to what we call the biohack. And like I told you, Dave Asprey was here the other week at the World Biohack Day. And we talk about all the new modalities that are available. So we created also a center of biohacking system here with the Hyperbaric Chamber, with Avacen machine, with so many different things.

11:12And then understand what's your constitution. You know, I studied Chinese medicine. I never finished, but I have to say it. But I studied Chinese medicine. and my teacher was a very old lady and she said to me that one of the main principles is that you're never 100 % balanced. If you're 100 % balanced, or you're dead, or you're an angel. But every morning she goes and she checks her heartbeat, she checks her tongue and her eyes, and then she takes certain herbiology and other things to really compensate or see what needs to be balanced. we all always out of balance and it's okay we're human but with it we can always check what needs to be balanced and go accordingly and that's what we give here so we give you balance modalities on the financial side on the spiritual side on esoteric study side and on wellness in general and the one thing that I don't bring here is politics and things of that nature that doesn't help with wellness not at all not at all and it's actually bring a lot of separations lately and i think unity is key and if you study kabbalah one of the most important numbers actually in kabbalah numerology value is 13 because it means uh also love and one because through unity we really bring love to everybody and that's key that's key to everything so one of the things i really admire about the whole rafi lounge experience is that holistic approach because what we missed the mark on now recently with health and we were talking about this earlier is like people just think health is just i'm gonna go and work out my chest and my bodies and then maybe do some cardio yeah like they don't think about it as a holistic approach it's financial it's spiritual it's physical it's you know emotional we are a very complex machine and we have so many facets to our machine and each one of them contribute so when you see somebody You know, the other day, Dave Asprey talked about Metushelach.

13:14Metushelach was living over, I think, 895 years or something like that. And he said, well, people used to live. First of all, they knew what their intake. They took everything from nature. Everything is healthy. There's no chemicals to it. There's no nothing. Secondly, I don't think there were cigarettes at the time, you know. Thirdly, even the alcohol was probably a pure alcohol if anyone drank alcohol. The air was better. Everything was better. The air was better. and the job was better. I know that I'm a shipman. I know that I'm going to take care of my ship. I know that I'm going to come in the end of the day.

13:47I know my worries. I know that maybe we have weather issues to deal with or things like that, but everything was much more relaxed with understanding. They didn't have a$30 ,000 mortgage? They didn't have. And you know what they didn't have? Internet. Today, we get fed so much information that's work out of scarcity, mainly. Yeah. Right? I mean, everybody said to you, oh, do you have that? Do you want to prevent this? Do you want to prevent that? And the scarcity, oh, wow. You know what? And then these people start to get imagination. And one of the worst things that people get is the imagination going the wrong direction.

14:22And they start to thrive of their imagination. That's, by the way, anxiety. If you tell me, Rafi, what was the number one thing that I got ever known here in America is, I never failed to fix anxiety in my life. Through Qigong. Through Qigong. It's a very simple fix. never felt an anxiety is dwelling about your own problem for the wrong reason you start to create your own movies all the time within you and you start to realize that those movies may be a reality when they had nothing to do with you to start with you understand they're just there and you just start to accumulate and accumulate and accumulate and it leads to nowhere so when you drop everything and you just realize everything is okay everything is okay you know and then you realize that you live your life in much more humble way, you know?

15:09And we're in such a rat race with everything that we get fed, everything that is expectation. You know, the Tao Te Ching, Lao Tse wrote the Tao Te Ching, which is the Bible of the Taoism. You know, it's a philosophy and it's not a religion. But he said, as long as you do what other people expect you to do, you remander slaves. and so many people doing it all their life sometimes never wake up and Rabbi Shimon Baruch Ha wrote the Kabbalah book the Zohar the Shining book says that most of the people walk dead in their life because they don't live their own life they slowly fall into the pattern of follow what society wants them to be and they never really understand that they could shine and they came here to shine exactly for what they are so when I teach my manifestation course, the first thing that I go through, I go through letting everybody really understand who they are.

16:06Who even asking them who they are inside them. You need to really go deep inside and say, who really am I? What really thrives me? What really makes me happy? Without thinking, that's going to make me happy because my father or my mother is going to be happy or my wife or my kids or my friends or my family, whoever it is. What really makes me happy? if you really get to that and then you hold to it as strong as you can that's your path and that's really what we're trying to do here with everybody so you started this place 2020 yes and now you've attracted some of the biggest celebrities in the world here we have a lot of people coming a lot of them came from the pandemic time a lot of them coming now I have anybody from Jeremy Fox I have Stevie Wonder coming and surprising me now to my birthday and saying happy birthday that was probably the treat of my life you know amazing yeah that was really uh i i i can't thank him enough and i i i told him that was really an amazing birthday party here for rafi yeah yeah two weeks ago when was your birthday august 23rd rafi i don't want to tell you this but i'm august 30th you know really yeah oh wow so we are two virgos yeah i told you another one one week apart one week apart so that's crazy right another thing we got checking on the box yes you probably had a much cooler birthday than me i was fortunate i had you know um stevie came here and and and he surprised i didn't expect him to go up and sing and he was singing happy birthday to you and the crowd was just wow wow you know and you did the party i'm assuming here yes of course all my friends and family and members came and it was just like i just wanted to share with them you know they say that uh when you have your birthday it's not time to receive it's time to share because um you almost like give a rebirth to yourself so you have a very original uh energy of birth so and i'm happy to share i think that the maximum goal is to share you know when you share when you give to somebody you need something who's more happy yeah of course you you're more happy yes that's the instinctual you know purpose of our life is to serve yeah as long as we fulfill that servitude like god gives it continues to give you more exactly exactly and that's you know that's one of the things that is it's i teach it also as well that i say if you really want to understand how to receive know how to give because that if not you create your own stagnation in your own vessel you will never receive if the vessel is blocking the bottom it can be filled again you gotta give all the time then you'll see the flow so um what are some what are some practices people can implement who don't have the resources to come to malibu and spend time in a wellness retreat like what can people do at home um improve their wellness you know overall i well a few things first of all i always say that and everybody said that actually that everything starts and finish in the kitchen all right i think that your intake in the kitchen is very important what do you eat.

19:10And I tell you what, I don't, not that I disagree. I agree with everybody, include Dave Asprey and others about that you need to see what you eat and where you eat. But you can start slowly. You don't have to punish yourself. You don't have to torture yourself. But you can look at really what's your intake and really write down for a week, what do you eat? And then look and Google. And today you can use AI. And you can tell AI, AI, and by the way, that's a little AI I think, but you can tell to AI, you can prompt and say to AI, you need to give the AI the explanation, what job description you give it before you start prompting it.

19:49So you said to AI, AI, I want you to be my nutritionist. I'm going to feed you with what I ate in the last week and to JetGPT, right? And please tell me what do I need to adjust. And right away, it will flow for you a lot of ideas and take some of them and slowly, slowly implement it and see how your life changes. uh number two is who would have thought that we would have we all have nutritionists now at home yes better than a nutritionist you could pay it's the best brains of the world and it comes in one second and for free right maybe 35 a month if you do the uh chat gpt the new one yeah i never even thought to write down my diet and prompt chat gpt as my nutritionist and say you're going to act as my nutritionist here's my diet for the week adjust it yes i want to drop x amount of pounds amazing right yeah it's crazy tell me what to do yeah yeah and it's amazing i mean i i can tell anything to jade i mean we do ai classes here as part of a elevating our community and i love it and i think it just it's just gonna it's not gonna go anywhere so it's just gonna enhance everybody and if you're not gonna make it your friend then it will be your enemy it's one or the other i said on another podcast that you know those who aren't gonna adopt ai will lose their jobs to ai exactly very true Very true.

21:06It's going to happen. It's going to happen. And you know what? It's going to put everybody in check. Because here, in the end of the day, you will need some humans. We're not there yet. For example, I want to say, well, I want to create a room. I want to create, design for me a room with a specification. And it will design for me everything, and I will put it into images and everything. It will still have some human feeling that I will need to change things. it's still not catered to the 100%. It will give you the best that he feels it's right. But then you have to come with your human touch and say, that's what I want.

21:42I want to create a book. I want to create a movie. You can create it, but you will need your human touch. And that's where we still need to come. So there's still be a place, but for those who understand how to use it and how to leverage it. And prompt it correctly and add which directive. Exactly. So what do you think the future is for Rafi Lounge? What do you think the future is for this organization? Two things. I'm looking at center and broad. Center, I think that Raffi Lounge is going to become more and more strong here in Malibu and preferably here in this location that we're going to turn it into a wellness hotel.

22:21And the purpose is to create a very big wellness hotel, not big in numbers because it's a very boutique. but as far as people can come here and can book for the way I think that everything in hospitality is going to turn into wellness and we want to be the first one to have a comprehensive week retreat hotel you come here you get checked in advance everything is in advance we know exactly what you need from ancient modalities all the way to futuristic modalities and from the second you step in from the second you see the doorman all the way to the second you're in your room. Everything going to be catered to what are your needs to make sure that we elevate you so that we know that a week later, you're not only going with what you experience here and you feel much better, you also get a program that's going to take you all the way to the next six months or so until you want to come back again or whatever you want to do next.

23:20So that's the center. On the board, we really want to create that kind of modalities throughout the world, but in a way that is scalable. Because to control a certain thing in a certain level, it's very difficult. You know, I have a friend, his name is Tony. He owns probably, you know, Whole Foods. Sorry, not Whole Foods. I said Whole Foods. He owns Air One. You know Air One Market? It's a very big market in LA. Everybody goes to that. It's the Whole Foods on steroids. It's like all the who's and who's, why? Everybody buy them. Very expensive, by the way. And in one state, somebody from Dubai come to me and said, Raffi, I want to open in Dubai Air One.

24:09So I came to Tony and I said to him, Tony, and he just said about eight at the time. No, 10 at the time, six. Now I think he's on the 11th one. I said, Tony, I've got somebody who wants to put money and open one in Dubai. And he said to me, I don't want to open. I said, why not? He said, because then I cannot control the quality. And it's very important for me to control the quality. and I appreciate it and I feel the same but there is a way that you give what we call the stamp of approval to what's the quality and create or a franchise or in a way of really open our own places and preferably even in hotels.

24:46You can go into existing hotels and create those things. But, you know, Rafi, there's only one Rafi. Yes. So, you know, part of the... For now. Yeah. part of the glamour of coming to rough you know to the rafi lounge is like they get to experience you they get to experience your experiences and all of your education and knowledge and there's just so much need like at a macro level for a wellness center like this not just in like for the affluent but even if you can like downgrade it for like the middle class somehow if you there's a way to make that happen yeah um but start with the affluent first then you could scale down i guess um but uh but how how are you going to impart your knowledge and experience and expertise and teach people how to like really integrate these various modalities you know at these new retreat centers you you hit the nail on its head i always say being raffi it's a blessing the curse it's what happened is that when people coming here the first thing they ask is raffi here You know, it's like it's very personalized and everybody see me here all the time.

25:55And to multiply me is a very difficult thing, not because I'm that special, just that I'm a certain person who had certain experiences. And to multiply me to many, many places will be hard. At the same time, I always say if in the end of the day I didn't remove Raffi out of Raffi Lounge, I failed. It has to be slowly that I get up and get out of here and allow myself to be in other places. the main way that I see it right now happening is before I even start to open any other places is really to do weekend retreats because that I can go so what you do is you create weekend retreats in Miami in Sedona in Mount Shasta in all kind of places like that and slowly slowly you build a community within the community there will always be somebody who can the stand-up student exactly exactly and become the next one that can open somewhere yeah that's a great idea that's how you're going to find your talent and i think yeah doing like a a targeted demographic like newport beach miami you know certain areas in silicon valley people are super conscious of holistic wellness exactly that's where you'll be able to find your star students and that makes sense yeah you know those listening to find top talent i guess that that is a great solution yeah i think i think that's the other way because you know i taught around the world i have probably i teach kung fu and tai chi i have more than 4 000 students through the years some of them when i say 4 000 some of them are very steady students in africa and in israel and some of them students that are that are need for charity like in Myanmar for monks that are novice that are home that are they don't have parents or things like that and they live in monasteries but I had a lot and you always it's for a teacher it's easy to identify who's next usually yeah it's easy so when I go through places I immediately somebody trigger and says okay that person can take and and me you know it needs a combination because it has to have somebody who understand the business mind too He's going to run a business.

28:04He's going to run. It's still an enterprise. It's something that you need to know how to run, not only to come and look good and say, okay, I'm going to teach Tai Chi now, and today it's going to be... It's a process. And you must understand this. It takes many to build it. It's not... I'm not... I happen to hold a brush for this canvas, but there's many other people that are the paint. We have Karen that does recce, and she runs all the things here for the wellness. We have Angel, who really manages a lot of things, include the food intake. We have so many people here that are part Alonzo, so many people that are part of this thing.

28:38So you start with one in every place, there's a small anchor, you start to taste it. Is he good? Let's see if he comes to the next one. If he come here, if he come there. Okay, now let me pull him in and start to teach him really the ins and outs of everything so that he can go back there. And that's how you build more organically, I think. wow um so we talked about this earlier and you know your your history where you would practice kung fu tai chi for eight ten hours yes now a discipline like that in this modern age this hyper adhd society how are you instilling that sort of balance in in in uh your members here i mean like because you'll have people here coming here they'll come six eight ten hours you know so it's a great level of patience that people are kind of understanding obviously it's not with like an eight ten hour workout like you were doing before i think first of all my goal was kung fu so think about it as like somebody who come to study here at pepperdine and he spent his 12 13 hours a day to study he can do that but even this in this dna uh the what's happening with kids is we have something that's called digital burnout.

29:57And that's a problem for a lot of kids that go to all the kids of the NFT world and the meme world and all those things. And they're really going to depression, a lot of other things, and they cannot fix themselves. As a matter of fact, I don't think I can sit next to a phone too long myself. And they have to jump from one thing to another, and they have what they call the monkey mind. And they really cannot focus. I think that the main thing to do is to understand that if it's part of your daily thing that you insert in different places, you will be more accommodating towards that. So that's why Raffi Lounge, we tell you, come with your computer, do your work, interact, bring your meetings here.

30:36And then you can say, oh, sorry, one second, I have a yoga class. One second, I'm going to do my core plunge. One second, I'm going to go to the hyperbaric chamber for an hour and rest. And then you start to see, oh, I can combine the both. I can create the community. I can work and the productivity is so much higher. If you go to the hyperbaric chamber and you just rest for one hour and you become so strong when you come out of there, and then, okay, let's go for it and let's go for the meeting. You feel so strong. You feel so good. And you know that you gave something to yourself. I cannot do a business meeting well if I didn't walk on the beach and did my morning routine.

31:13It's not going to look the same. You know? So, yes, we do that. And I still hope that there's some kids that can still do the 10 hours a day Kung Fu. There's some kids that you will, like I said, you will pick and choose them one by one. And say, okay, he's been chosen. Not by me. By life. By Tao. By whatever you want to call it. There are those people. Is there a specific mantra that plays in your head all the time? Like what is like the mantra that you live by? The mantra for me is always to be in the moment. That's the most important. I, you know, people that know me at the lounge, they think that I'm like a little kid because I'll talk to you.

32:01And, you know, because one of the things that I knew at the lounge, it was an empty balcony. And I said, I'm going to bring back nature here. So, I mean, you can see everything we surround is just all green. It's all green. And it's flowers. And we have fig trees, lemon trees. And they're all giving fruits, by the way. and we have so many birds and butterflies coming here now so we have like a whole family of blue jays coming here so every time when they come here i stop i don't care what i'm talking i'll talk to you and i'll stop you in the middle and tell you look at the blue jay here because it's such a beautiful thing that i like to cherish the moment so my main mantra is live the moment all we have is the moment the past is past the future we don't know so we have the moment make it count all the time when i talk to you i want to hear you i want to talk to you 100 whether something happened around you that is elevating you stop for a second and enjoy it too yeah one thing i noticed about you is you could be very you're you know you have this aura about you but what's really dominating is that you're very present with me you know like i could feel your spirit there you know it's uh i think it's important i think it's important that you know Like you say, human interaction is key.

33:11I mean, we're all enjoying each other's company when we laugh and we enjoy. And when I'm with you and I'm going to think about, okay, what's going to happen? Nothing is going to change. Again, I'm creating more movies that have nothing to do with nothing. So why would I care? If I'm worried about something, then let me do the something I'm worried about. But the second I'm with you, stop worrying about this thing. You just decide that you're going to designate that time. Enjoy it. you know, on a different level, it's not exactly like that, but Rabbi Berg, who used to own the Kabbalah Center, he opened, right?

33:46The teacher for Madonna and all those people. And, you know, in Jewish religion, you're not allowed to eat pork. And he once said to me, my mom told me that if I ever eat pork and I made a mistake, at least enjoy every bite. You know? Once you do something, enjoy that, no matter what it is. Don't punish yourself all the time on things. Don't all the time struggle of how I'm going to get my mortgage, how I'm going to get this. When you talk about a mortgage, focus on that. When you talk to your girl, you are going out with a woman on a dinner, don't be on the phone. Don't tell her, sorry, I have business.

34:25Stop. Put tender phone upside down for emergency. It's fine. Tender. I never leave the phone like that. It's always upside down. I have nothing to hide from her, but I always put it upside down. And I put the time to learn who I'm with, to enjoy the time. Right? It's so important. And one thing I really was fascinated about when I was learning about you was you suffered from a sickness. And you healed it yourself from this holistic medicine. And this is not just a regular sickness. Were you deemed medically blind? Yeah, let me explain. What happened is that I went to a regular check for optometrists.

35:08And when he finished the check, he said to me, I think I need to send it to a specialist, ophthalmologist. And I went and the ophthalmologist said to me, you're very lucky he sent it. And he's right. I said, what's happening? He said, you have something called AMD. I said, what is AMD? He said, and at the time I was studying in the Chinese medical university. and he said to him, AMD is immaculate degeneration. It's when the cells in the back of your eyes start to break down and I said to him, and then what? He said, well, then it leads to a tunnel vision and in the end you go blind. I said, well, how blind and how sure is it?

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35:46He said to me, it's a sure thing that you have it and you're going to go blind. And I said, in which eye? He said, both. And I said, when? He said, you have maximum in year before you go blind. and I listened to him and I said that's not going to happen and he said look we're going to give you some numbers and you have to start to call some people and we're going to make sure that the transition is easy enough for you I said what transition he said well if you start to learn how to be blind before you go blind then it's easier for you after that to know your you know space and everything else so I said no no no you don't understand it's not going to happen It's just not going to happen.

36:25He said, we understand. We have a lot of people that come here with this attitude, and it's good to have decided you, but you also have to be realistic about things. I said, okay, you be realistic about what you know. I'll be realistic about what I know. I immediately go to my professor in the medical university. He started to tell me about certain things. He told me about a man that actually passed away. His name is Dr. Ote. He was in Arkansas. He does acupuncture only for the eyes, an expert in his field. Went and did two sessions, two weeks in Arkansas. From there, I went to my teacher, who was 89 years old at the time.

37:00He was one of my teachers here, Master Jia Haotuan. He passed away by now. And he said to me, Rafi, let me connect you with the Medical University of Beijing. I'll introduce you to the head of the Qigong Board of China. And I connected with him. He said, come to me. We will teach you the Medical Qigong course. but you'll have to do it privately because you'll have to condense everything in two months. I said, okay. And while I was there, my 89-year-old teacher said to me, let me connect you to my big brother who is 104 years old. So I went to China, Beijing. Every morning until evening, I was going to the Medical University of Beijing to study Qigong with my teacher there.

37:47and after that I would go to the teacher that teach me what they call sound qigong and qigong qi is energy gong is exercise so it's exercise of qi and when I finished that after two months this master said let me introduce you to my teacher my friend who is a teacher in wudan wudan wudan mountains are the mountains of lao it's the mountain of the taoist people those are all monks that have all long ponytail and I used to have a long ponytail too and everybody lives there and practice Tai Chi and Qigong all day. That's what they do there. And I went to the Pepper Cloud Monastery there, stayed there for a long time, practiced, came back, went for a check, and it's gone.

38:31Wow. Gone. And they said, we don't know what you did. We've never seen it, but whatever you did, keep on doing it. So that will. And then you just kept with it? Kept with it. It's amazing. um what is uh what's your favorite quote of course bruce lee be like water my friend number one you know i thought about it the other day i said my biggest hero died at age 36 much younger than me and he's still my biggest hero how did he die in 36 you know there's various um theories various theories the last theory that came out lately that he drowned actually that he over drank water when you over drink water to a big quantities it also can kill you there's so much people say drink as much water no too much water too much of anything is not okay and maybe he drank too much water that's a theory that came right now by the medical society so i don't know i know there was uh conspiracies about him teaching to the foreigners kung fu and that he was cursed by other big spiritual Chinese leaders.

39:40I don't believe that. Even though I do believe that the Chinese society at the time, kung fu was a very secretive thing in the 70s at the time that he was alive. But I really, if you ask me, because I experienced something quite similar. In Hong Kong when I train, I train like I said 10 hours a day and the food that you You take all it in Hong Kong is mainly dim sum and other things that are cooked, all cooked. No fresh vegetables or nothing. So in the end, I couldn't sleep at night and I had half palpitations. I overtrained. I overtrained. And my teacher called my students and we had a meeting and he said, please tell Rafi that the only thing that stays alive in his body is his eyes and he needs to live.

40:23And he asked me to stop training because I was overtrained. And I think that that can kill you. and I think that Bruce Lee overtrained. Bruce Lee was a perfectionist on every level the way he conducted his body, what he did with his body, he made sure that every muscle, I was following him since I'm 13 years old, I used to walk in the street for one year with weights on my ankles, not taking them out just because I heard that that's what he did he perfected his body to the T and he's the first one that used impulse electric exercises, you know? He took electric impulses on the arms and used to punch and do resistance with the power.

41:05So I don't know to what level it impacted his body, his heart, many other things, you know? He was doing experimental training. He was a Taoist master. No matter how you look at it, you know how many books he was a philosopher. He was the first MMA fighter. He's the first one to combine Taekwondo with karate, with Hapkido, with Kung Fu Wing Chun, with the Pasi Ulam, not Shaolin, kicking. Shwe Jiao, wrestling. He combined boxing. He loved Muhammad Ali. He was the first MMA fighter. The only difference between him and other MMA fighters is that he stays solid to his philosophy. Most of them do not do it.

41:44They do it more for the entertainment part, which is sad because I'm a martial artist and I have to say that, but not a lot of them have that teacher, the teacher, the philosophy and the dignity and everything that comes with being a martial artist. you know fascinating i'm you know i we don't know a lot about bruce lee from the public eye right i only know movies i know posters i know you know um i forgot even the name of the book because um for my birthday alonzo one of the guys that work here he just uh bought me a book that i didn't start reading it uh because i'm reading another book and i'll read it right after but but it's called Be Like Water, My Friend, and it's by Shannon Lee that she compiled all his writings together, all his notes, and I'm very excited to read it next, but that's something probably that he wrote the Tao of Jit Kondo, which that I read many times, but that, all these notes, it's definitely something I'm looking forward to reading.

42:44Wow, Be Like Water, My Friend. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds awesome. It's a Tao Tei. That's his favorite quote. Yes. so one of the I'd like to end the podcast with some personal goals what's a personal goal that you have for yourself and a business goal that you have for the business well personal goals are I think the main thing for me is love I think I want to surround myself with people I love and people that love me that's the number one goal because if not you have nothing I can have the most beautiful place over the water to be in the most romantic places in the world, if you're not with the one you love, if you're not doing the people that you love with, then you're staying still alone.

43:27So that's really, really my personal goal over and above everything in the personal, personal life. I also want to be very healthy. I reached a stage now that staying healthy is really key. It always has been, but now so much more. And I want to really see how I incorporate new technologies and biohacking. And I'm studying it inside out to really allow and I'm really believing one thing by the way again that I keep reminding him but it was really I love what he said but Dave Asprey when he say here that you tell your soils have a consciousness when you tell them I'm 20 then that's what they're going to understand if you tell them the other day I had a woman here coming here and she said to me uh they're here and her husband and they come from Australia and I said so uh and they and they're younger than me and they said to I said what are you doing he said well we're making a plan now we want to retire then we're going to see we're just going to retire now so we're planning how to retire i said why would you even use the way to retire you're so young and you want to say already that your retired change he said what should i say i said say something like um i want to change my life to a different direction i want to do another uh chapter in my life don't say retired you're telling your whole body that you retired that you're done you know so i'm looking Retire means I'm going to die soon.

44:45Exactly. Yeah. I'm in the waiting room for God. Yeah. Right? Don't do that. Don't do that to yourself. I'm so energetic. I'm so, I've got so much more to do. I've done a lot. I've been, like you said, I've been a soldier in the army. I was, I had a nightclub in South Africa. I had a Kung Fu school in Africa. I was a Kung Fu monk. I had a clothing line, jewelry line, art. I have that. And there's so many things I want to do. You're just getting started. I'm just getting started. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. That's a winner's mentality though. Yeah. And you're making winners, breeding winners, instilling winners here.

45:21And I'm enjoying it. It's because you're serving. Yeah. And then a last question I have for you. When you're in front of the pearly gates, what do you think God's going to tell you? I'm a man with sense of humor. He's going to joke and say, how was it, Rafi? he's gonna say how was it you know we're always looking and we said okay was it was it um was it what you expected it's like almost we're going to a movie and we go out and we say was that what i expected and the most important thing that we need to really think that god is going to ask everybody did you use your time correctly did you use your time correctly are you looking back right now how many people before the the gates you ask them the last question and they will say what else do you want to do they will say maybe we want to visit another country i didn't see spend another minute with my loved ones how many people say i wish i could make another dollar before the die no one not one think maybe that will change everything of how you're looking at life.

46:34Rafi it's been amazing you've been an amazing guest amazing facility I look forward to you know a mutually prosperous relationship I myself want to come here and I wish I could spend months here. You're more than welcome always. It's a great thing and I feel that this needs to be amplified and it definitely needs to be amplified. Now if people want to get in touch with you How do they do it? Well, we have an Instagram, raffielounge.com. And by the way, I micromanage this one. So whenever people drop a note or whatever, I'm the one that always answer. And if everybody has a question, even about AMD or something like that, I'm always happy to help and give them and stay in the right direction.

47:16Or if they want to come here and that raffi lounge we have, we post weekly everything that we have here and all the different happenings and people can come. if there are members that can buy yearly membership or they can come for a class or for a daily visit. So everybody's welcome. Founder and CEO of Rafi Lounge, an incredible human being. This place is just magical. Thank you, Rafi. God bless you, man. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you.

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In this episode of Coffeez for Closers, we sit down with Rafi Anteby, a man whose journey is anything but ordinary. From his time in the Israeli military to mastering Kung Fu, Tai Chi, and Qi Gong as a Daoist monk, Rafi has reinvented himself multiple times.

He’s the founder of Bullets 4 Peace, turning spent bullet casings into meaningful jewelry, and the visionary behind Rafi Lounge in Malibu, a one-of-a-kind wellness space blending ancient practices with modern community.

We talk about his approach to life, business, and finding purpose in every chapter. If you’re looking for inspiration on how to pivot, evolve, and create impact, this one’s for you.

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