Patrick Christys' Reckoning - Is Britain Sliding into a Socialist Police State?

25:24So I want to come back to Labour, our politicians, the system. You get to see, probably more than most people in this country, kind of what the people want with what you do. and I haven't been able to ask this to anyone before, so hopefully this is a good question. What do the public want? You know, what do we, the people of the UK, want for the UK? OK, I think people want lower taxes. They want better safety. They want to feel as though there is a massive carrot in front of them and not a massive stick. So they want to feel there's a sense of social justice and the idea that if you work hard and you've got a degree of talent, that there is opportunity there for you to do some quite basic things, which is live in a comfortable property, not all after a mansion.

26:14In some cases, that might be a flat. In some cases, that might be a four or five bedroom house in Surrey. They want to feel as though that their children are safe when they go to school. They want to feel as though there are adequate school places. They want to feel as though when they turn up for a train, it'll be running on time. They want these kind of basic things. They want to feel as though at their moment of crisis, when they need the NHS, that it will be there for them. They won't be told that they have to wait six weeks for a scan. On the way in here now, I was listening to the radio in the car and the NHS medical negligence bill has just topped£60 billion.

26:47£60 billion for NHS medical negligence. People are terrified of getting ill in this country, despite the fact that what we spend on the NHS every single year is somewhere roughly, roughly in line with the entire GDP of Portugal. That is... Hundreds of billions. Yeah. Right? Shocking. OK, so there's no kind of social justice there. I think people also want to feel as though their government is unashamedly acting in their best interests. So, for example, the Chinese spy thing. I think people understand that China is a very powerful country. And through some ridiculous decisions that have been made over the course of the last couple of decades, they have been able to have massive power here in this country.

27:28However, I think people also want, when Chinese spies are caught operating here, or the Chinese have hacked our NHS, our Ministry of Defence, our electoral system, where they hacked the details of 40 million British voters, they want politicians to call that out, stand up for Britain's best interests. They don't want a big globalist, kind of internationalist look. I think they want people who are unashamedly operating in Britain's best interests. And I think they don't want to be sneered at for liking the flag of this country and that kind of stuff. Those would be just some of the kind of basics that I think, I generally think that that's where the overwhelming majority of the British public are at.

28:09And they don't want to be scared. They don't want to live in a situation like we've got now where if you send your children off to a music concert, you are worried about them being blown up by a terrorist, a terrorist that maybe in all likelihood we have allowed into this country. And I think that's quite a basic human right for people. And at the moment we feel as though that's not necessarily the case, I think. And then probably for you to be, the added kicker for that would be for you to be called a racist and told to sing don't look back in anger when it happens. They don't want that. I think people want people to be a bit angry about that kind of stuff.

28:45Yeah, so you said earlier, you know, kind of maybe this is planned.

28:52as in make us reliant on the state, essentially. Because if you think about it, we've got the convergence of HMRC, massive powers to crack into your bank accounts and take money, tax at source, huge powers. I'm told they have more powers than MI5. I might be wrong on that, but anyway. Then you've got central bank digital currency. Then you've got the Online Safety Act, and now you've got digital ID. And if you put those four systems together, That feels like a massive amount of control where you can't. The only thing you've got left of freedom is your thoughts. Well, for now, yeah. I mean, there is another aspect to that as well, which is something that I know some people are very concerned about, which is that if you have that level of state control over absolutely every single aspect of your life, especially digitally.

29:44Yeah, which is communism, isn't it? Which is basically what it is. It's like modern communism, isn't it, really? but you also have extreme levels of hacking and people working behind the scenes who i don't think are are working in britain's best interests but but are involved with the british state you know i think there's an even more sinister aspect to that which is that you know are they going to start stitching people up that they don't like you know whether it's to do with things like facial recognition technology everywhere whether it's to do with things that like you know on people's phones or all of that i i am i am very very concerned you know if They have total, complete and unfettered access to everything that's going on in your digital sphere as well.

30:24Plus, you introduce the hacking aspect to that. You know, how much of a stretch is it to wonder whether or not people are going to start to be fitted up for things? You know, I am very, very concerned about that. I'm very worried about that. I mean, there's a park opposite where I live now where there was a conversation that was being taken place with the local council about them introducing facial recognition cameras in that park and then also banning smoking in the park, right? and it's a big park right so conceivably if uh one or two o 'clock in the morning after i finished work and i decided because i've got a new baby i decided i wanted to just go outside for a marble red or whatever and i walked into that park and had a cigarette on my own in an empty field in a week's time do i get a letter through the door with a picture of my face and a hundred pound fine you know i don't really want to live like that i don't really want to live like that i'm incredibly worried about the direction of travel of this incredibly worried about it who do you think really runs the state i think about this a lot and i ask my guests sometimes and you know people think that really the the prime minister doesn't have a lot of power and i ask this because i think it's important for us to know is that who runs the state well at the moment we're in a situation it's not just to do with immigration it's about a load of different things where we are deferring to the ECHR, which is the European Convention on Human Rights.

31:51And the arbiters of that are a bunch of often, by the way, anonymous foreign judges. So we can have a situation in this country, as we have done, where a government wins a whopping great big landslide and they've won that based on on a manifesto a set of things that you say i'm going to do this when i when i win the landslide people vote for that they get into power they pass that law through parliament it goes through the house of lords it might be challenged by some let's say some human rights groups or something it goes through all of our court system it's found in this country to be completely legal and we go ahead and do it and then one group decides to take to the ECHR abroad, where judges from, I mean, I don't know, I'm just plucking things out of thin air here, but like some random bloke from San Marino might decide that actually that's not okay and we can't do it.

32:46So that's not, we haven't got any control there, have we? That's an international body. So that's a big problem. There is also the more sinister thing, which, again, there's no people who say it was a bit of a conspiracy theorist. there's groups like the Fabian Society in Britain, which is essentially, well, I mean, their logo is a wolf in sheep's clothing. And they are, I suppose you describe them as Marxist, really. And you look at an example that there was there of a case about a migrant hotel in Epping that caused a huge amount of ferora because an Ethiopian gentleman had been in this country for four days when he basically went on a kind of nonce spree.

33:28and the public wanted to close, the local council as well wanted to close that hotel. The judge who ultimately said that they couldn't close that hotel and then initially refused an appeal on it as well had been a member of the Labour Party for 28 years, was the former chairman of the Society for Labour Lawyers and I think the treasurer of the Fabian Society. It might be the other way around, but either way, that was his back catalogue, right? And we are told as a public, oh, don't worry, because that man is beyond reproach. There is no way. He founded the same chambers, Barrister's chambers, that our attorney general worked for.

34:12But don't worry. That guy walked into that courtroom and he was completely and utterly neutral. He managed to leave all of his politics, longstanding politics, longstanding political networks, long-standing beliefs, he left them at the door and he just decided on a point of law. I'm sorry, I find that very, very, very hard to believe. And I think there's a lot of that kind of people who are behind the scenes in the British state. And I think that's very, very concerning. Wow. And what is this Fabian society? Just a group of people. It's a bit like a kind of, I suppose, like a kind of club, a political movement, etc.

34:48It's a wing of the Labour Party. It's a very long-standing thing. I suppose, I'm trying to think about the best way to describe it to your viewers and listeners, really. I don't know whether you'd say, maybe call it like a left-wing Masons. But I suppose it's a bit like that, really. And it's a network of people. And by definition, you can't really trust it. And what they fundamentally believe in, and people may want to correct me on this, but this is my understanding of what it is, is that they believe in the implementation of Marxism through gradual change. so you know instead of like total full frontal revolution it's it's the kind of slow march through the institutions really and so that's that's that really and then you kind of look around now and you think well hang on a minute the head of the national education union is a man called daniel kabidi who's called to globalize the interfada he thinks we should decolonize the curriculum and has attended marxist conferences you've got you've got members of the legal profession like i've just spoken to you there you've got members of government who who are in that now.

35:49You look at where we are with the NHS and some of the people that are working in there with very extremist views. All that stuff, and you think, well, I'm going to be... Maybe it's happening. Maybe that thing that they said that they wanted to do, that slow march through the institutions... Academia is another one. I mean, good grief. I know people will say it's always been a bit lefty, but maybe this is happening. Maybe this is what we are living through now. silver has crashed it's back to its price in 1974 and i'm going to buy more and if you'd like to learn how to invest and build multiple streams of recurring income i recommend you join money.school money.school is my global financial education platform to help as many people on this planet get better financial knowledge for less than four starbucks coffees a month there are hundreds of hours of courses resources and masterclasses going back a decade to teach how to make manage and multiply money and gain financial freedom.

36:44So join thousands of other money and freedom seekers on the link money.school and start today your journey to financial freedom and more money. So do you think reform can save the UK? Well, saving the UK is a big question. I don't really know who else there is at the minute. I mean, you have to deal the cards you doubt, don't you? So you can only vote for who you've got. Yeah. So at the moment, who have we got well i mean if ed davies the answer i'm not sure what the question is unless it's who looks awful in a wetsuit and then i mean labor and knackered i mean you know forget that you know and the greens want to do all sorts of stuff you know all sorts of i think i think like like make it illegal for you to be a landlord abolish landlords is their flyer yeah i mean what planet are they on right so you're not gonna you're not gonna win big with that i don't think so so they're they're out um so then you've got the tories i was actually quite impressed with coming back not speech um you know things like abolishing stamp duty etc you know i thought was i thought was pretty good, I think cutting business rates.

37:41So, you know, that's that. But the problem with the Conservatives is that there's no trust there because they screwed it. They screwed it big time. And the problem that I would always have and still have with the Conservatives is will they say one thing to get elected and then revert back to basically being Lib Dems in power? I also think there's a huge amount of public resentment for the fact that, unfortunately, a large part... The Conservatives didn't conserve anything, did they? Well, they weren't themselves. They de-branded themselves. They de-branded. They did not conserve anything. And so that is a problem for people.

38:16So then who are you left with? So do you think reform are the new conservatives then? Well, I think reform are just conservative. You know, in a way that the Tories weren't. And they weren't behaving like it. I mean, again, I don't know what your viewers and listeners think of this. I'm not sitting here telling everyone to go out and vote reform. I'm not a member of any political party. You've got no desire to ever be a member of any political party. You've just asked me a straightforward question about where the country's at politically. I'm trying to give you an honest answer about that. And, you know, I think reform at the moment are, well, they're topping the polls for a start, so I'm not alone.

38:52By a long way. By a long way. In quite a miraculous change over a short period of time. Yeah, and on some of the core issues, like illegal immigration, like tax, like net zero, like some of the social issues as well, like, you know, what is a woman, all that stuff, which actually does matter because it tells you a lot about someone's mindset, may be potentially willing to do more radical things with the NHS and think a bit out of the box there, stand up for Britain unashamedly on the world stage. On those kind of topics, they score best. So, yeah, I don't know about save Britain, but I suppose they're in the best position to help it, I think, at the moment.

39:30But you know what's going to be interesting at the next election is that if the polls stay the same, and I think it probably will be there or thereabouts in a few years' time, you're going to end up with them having to field candidates in every single constituency. Every single party is going to have to field a candidate in every single constituency. So you're going to end up with the Greens and reform pretty much in every single seat with candidates. And what you're going to see, I think, is the media, locally and nationally, going after every single reform candidate, trying to find anything out from Facebook posts they did 20 years ago, everything, everything, everything.

40:08They're going to delve into that. And I don't think they're going to look at the Greens. And I'm telling you now that the difficulty reform we're going to have is that there's going to be some pretty fruity people who end up on these tickets because you need to find 650 people to stand. And you always end up with the odd nutter. You always do. But look at the Greens. They're going to be fielding a boatload of nutters as well. And then whether it's the pro-hamass lot, they seem to have got into bed with the Green Party now, which is weird, or whether it's just some complete full-frontal eco-loons who have been part of borderline designated terror groups, like some of the eco-mobs and all that stuff.

40:45And there's not going to be anything like the same level of focus or the same level of scrutiny on their candidates as there is on reform. And that points to a pretty hardcore left-wing bias amongst the establishment media, I think. Well, that was going to be my next question about the mainstream media. So you think it's quite a hard left bias? Of course there is. I mean, when people leave the BBC, they always come out and start doing these podcasts or whether it's things like the news agents or whether it's, you know, whatever else, that kind of stuff. And they always feel as though they've almost got to do this, like, LGBT-style coming-out ceremony where they go, well, I'm unshackled now, I can say what I like.

41:22OK, can I just guess, are you really left-wing? You are. Oh, right. Oh, well, there you go. Yeah, and it's just ridiculous, isn't it? And it's just time and time and time again. So, yeah, there is a hardcore left-wing bias amongst, I think, vast, vast sections of the media. I mean, another example, an example of that, I think, is the way things like, the compare and contrast to things like Notting Hill Carnival versus that, whatever you'd call it, Patriots March that we had in London. The Freedom Rally. Freedom Rally, that's it, sorry. Which the mainstream media said had 150 ,000 people at it.

42:00I'm willing to be corrected on this, but I was looking at some of the media footage of it and I was actually going to go. Rather inconveniently, my wife gave birth four days before it and I thought I probably can't justify it. I was looking at the media and I'm pretty sure that Sky News paid for a helicopter to fly above that so that they could get the aerial shots of it. If you're going to pay for a helicopter to fly above it to get aerial shots, why then lie about the amount of people that are there? Because they said it was 150 ,000. I mean, I've spoke to a lot of people who went. And by the way, these are people in media.

42:35It's not just, you know, kind of the more headbanging element of people that would have been there. The general consensus, as far as I can gather, is there was about half a million people. That seems, at least, I think. That seems to be there. Well, someone who said it, they were an expert in this and apparently neutral and analysed it, said 700 ,000. Right, there you go. right but yeah but there's but it's obviously about some of the people that are there were like three million yeah yeah fair enough it was maybe slightly wishful thing but you know whatever but um but the point there is to go back to your question you've got news outlets paying i mean gb news can't afford a helicopter to go up there and uh and and scan it over with but i tell you what if we had paid for a helicopter we'd have told you the truth yeah because what's the point because what's the point of this you know you've got it there oh well there you go there's a dozen people here.

43:22Looks like a lot more. No, it's a dozen people. It's a dozen people. Yeah. But again, with that, so we were told that that was basically a far right Nazi rally. Okay. Oh, look how disgusting all of these arrests. The last time I checked anyway, I think there were 28 arrests and quite a few of those are from the hard left activists that turned up to protest. I think in a rally out of, let's say 700 ,000 people, whilst I'm not condoning anyone doing anything that would get you arrested, obviously, if you just look at the numbers of people there, if you're talking about maybe 23 people that were arrested for bad behaviour as a result of that.

43:53It's not awful going. But then compare that to Notting Hill Carnival, which is, of course, a massive celebration of culture and diversity and everything that's great about Britain. We had 100 pre-emptive arrests to that, a lot of them for firearms offences. So that tells you who was going to that. And then whilst you were there, you had another, I think it was about 280 odd or something like that, arrest. Again, firearms offences, violence, attacking emergency workers, drug of fences, obviously, all of that stuff. But again, that was a celebration of diversity and culture, according to our media.

44:26So you've got that bias there, haven't you, I think. So with mainstream media, we seem to have a lot of disruption to it. GB News is kind of a disruptor because I guess it's more independent media. Podcasters are now bigger than the BBC, a lot of them. Do you think this is a good thing? Oh, I think the more the better, generally. Yeah, because for... Because you have room for more voices. Well, yeah. More discussion and debate. And it allows people to think critically. And I'm noticing something really, really interesting happening, which is more younger people becoming engaged in the kind of conversations that we're having.

45:04More younger people now have got the ability to consume the kinds of media that you were talking about there, which allows them to think more critically and allows them to think differently at times. and then also have more conviction in their views and beliefs if that challenges the mainstream narrative as well. So I think that's a really, really good thing. I don't think you can have enough of that. And for too long, really, people were reliant on one or two major sources of news, which was basically the BBC and then, you know, what do you want to add the other one in there? I suppose Sky News or Channel 4 News or whatever, that cohort of people there.

45:45And now I think people are realising that you actually can't trust them to tell you the truth. And it's about time that that was called out. Because just think about the level of power that they have, undiluted power that they have had just forever since they existed. The BBC... And we pay for that privilege. We pay for the privilege, yeah. If everyone is watching either the BBC or Sky News and they both parrot the same line at you, then we're all getting the same line. And for a lot of people who've got busy lives, who've got other jobs, who maybe just consume an hour of news a day and aren't obsessed with it, maybe in a way that we are, you know, don't live and breathe it.

46:30That's just what they get. So fair enough to them. They just take what they see at face value. They just go, they let it wash over them. They're like, oh, that's the news. That's the fact then. And then they go, but actually a lot of the time it's not. Or there is another narrative to it, or there is another way of looking at it. So now we're having more voices like GB News. I think that it allows people to think more critically, to look at things in a slightly different way, to question that established narrative, to question what they really think about things as well. Go, hang on a minute, now I've seen it from this perspective.

47:01Do I think that? Do I disagree? And the thing that the establishment media cannot handle, it's the main reason I think why they want to shut GB News down, is because we can hold a mirror up now to their coverage. So I will unashamedly go on my show and we'll pick a news story of the day and I'll go, right, this is what happened. Do you want to see how the BBC covered it? And once you see it like that, you kind of can't unsee it. It's the subtle bias from the BBC as well. It's like their story selection. I mean, they've not really gone big on the China thing. I think until recently, they hadn't even mentioned the China spy scandal.

47:39You know, and, you know, things like the grooming gags. I've used this example quite a bit. So if people have seen me say this before, apologies, but I want to say it again. The Telford grooming gang scandal at the time was the UK's largest ever grooming gang scandal. The largest ever. And the BBC initially only reported it on their website, on their local Shropshire page. So if you wanted to find out about the UK's largest ever grooming gang scandal, you would have had to have gone on the BBC website, click Shropshire, and then scroll down a bit and then have found it. You know, that's pretty...

48:13Whereas GB News, we weren't around at the time, but obviously then we've kind of been leading the charge when it comes to the grooming gang stuff. So you can see now their stories by omission, says a lot of their buyers. And they can't get away with it anymore because we're here, you're here, other outlets are here. We talk about some of these things. They can't get away with it anymore and they hate it and that's why they want to shut us down, really. That's flattering, isn't it? Yeah, it is. Yeah. I mean, well, it is. This is the thing. If you're on irrelevance and inconvenience, I mean, it's one of those things, you know.

48:44I mean, I wasn't at GVDs when it first launched. I don't know. I think I maybe came a few months after it and everything. But it's gone through phases, hasn't it, where initially the establishment just laughed at it. And then they kind of became a bit more sinister about, oh, you know, oh, it's just a bit rubbish, isn't it? And then it gradually became a thing of, we need to shut this down and you think well if we weren't having an impact and you weren't scared of us and we weren't potentially putting you out of business like I think we will do to Sky News Sky News need to go early they have got I think another year or so on their on their broadcasting licence I think I'm right in saying people don't talk about that enough they're losing a lot of money they're losing a lot of money Why carry on?

49:35I mean, they're a distant third now. So GB News is the top, the nation's number one news channel in terms of viewership and has been now for three months in a row. And I hope we're about to bring up the fourth month. So it's us and BBC News Channel and then Sky News. Well, if you're looking at spreadsheets over in wherever the head office is over there and you've only really got another couple of years or whatever it is on your license, why not save yourselves a couple of hundred million pounds and just go early go early what's the point you're not going to win it's over it's finished so just go um and then that leaves us in the bieb doesn't it and that's exactly where we want to be i think exactly where i want to be anyway come on let's have it i mean these people that have seriously you know people have suffered enough i'm bang up for the fight and i i'm glad that people sneered at me and at gb news when we started because I've kept the receipts.

50:32Absolutely. And I cannot wait. We are building an audience, a huge audience of people who really value what we do. And crucially, we value them. Right. I don't go around to places and talk down to people. If I want to go and do a news report, when people invite me into their front room and give me a cup of tea or something, and some of them might, you know, these are just nice, ordinary people who might speak a bit or use a use the odd little you know kind of um fruity turn of phrase every now and again but just make them a bad person you know i love that i love that kind of stuff real people i like that kind of thing we don't go and sneer sneer at these people you know so it's about time that there was a news channel that represented represented you common man and woman and um you know like i said you know it's i'm bang up for the fight is there anything that's come out of the far left that you've changed your mind on?

51:27I.e. you held a belief and this came from the far left, but you're like, no, actually, I agree with them on that. Gosh, that is a cracking question. I'm desperately scrambling around now in my head to try and see if there's anything that I... Okay, let me give you one example. It's not the best example, this, but it's what I'm going to say, so there you go. There was a period of time about two or three years ago where everyone was out on strike, like everyone, from the junior doctors to the train drivers. And then in amongst all of that was nurses. And I was so pissed off at the time about the fact that the country was basically just not working, literally not working, that I was very dismissive about the nurses' pay rises.

52:16Because I think mentally I'd factored it in with, like, train drivers who were on 70 or 80 or grand a year or more, or junior doctors. I think GPs were thinking of striking as well. And I was very dismissive of that. And I have changed my view on that. I think if there is one group of public sector workers that I think should get a pay rise, I do think it is the nurses. And I would include in that things like hospital porters as well, actually. I'm not trying to equate the two jobs, but that kind of strata of people in the NHS I think are fundamentally much more deserving of a pay rise than junior doctors and GPs, etc.

53:03So I don't know if that's necessarily been something that I've got from the far left. I mean, I imagine the far left would agree with that, obviously. But that is something I've changed on. That is something I look back on and regret going big at the time to say. Because for me, when they were on strike, Like, I was looking at my, to give you a bit of context, my family has had a few catastrophic experiences on the NHS. As have we, yeah. Well. As has everyone I speak to, I think, pretty much. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's been examples, obviously, where they've saved someone's life, but then they've, like, just killed them, like, a month later, and you're like, oh, why did you do that, you know?

53:39I mean, literally killed them in the case of one of my relatives. And so that clouded me a little bit, I think. and I was looking at it when I was thinking about nurses going on strike I thought well if you walk out people die and I think mentally I went straight back to that some of my experiences so I don't like seeing them go on strike I don't want to see a nurse walking out and I think probably maybe it should be illegal for them to actually strike because people will die however I've changed my mind on that and I do think that when it comes to the pay rise this thing that nurses probably deserve they're more deserving of a pay rise than anyone else really Yeah so I'd agree with that and I have an opinion I've not shared publicly before.

54:19But, you know, we the people are forced to give our government more than a trillion pounds a year. And whether you're an entrepreneur or you're in the public sector, you work hard and then they manage the trillion plus a year of the budget. So how is it an entrepreneur's fault or how is it any of our fault that the nurses are underpaid? If I am an entrepreneur and I run a company and my staff are underpaid, that's my fault. So isn't it the government's fault that the nurses are underpaid? Yeah, well, yeah. Because they pay them and they take our money to pay them. Yeah, and if you look at the...

54:58But yet they send billions to other countries and they spray hundreds of billions in wastage. Absolutely. Hundreds of billions. Absolutely. You took the words right in my mouth. If we're giving away the Chagos Islands, for example, and paying for the privilege, that's a huge amount of money. Whenever there seems to be this, what always amazes me, someone will pop up and go like, oh gosh, it's a bit spicy in Sudan at the minute. All right, I have a billion quid. It's like, what? We'll just give this, okay, yeah, let's just go and give these fabulously corrupt, war-torn countries billions of pounds of British taxpayers' money and then not do things like pay the nurses more.

55:33I mean, we just found 60 million quid yesterday, I think it was actually, 60 million quid for private health care for illegal migrants the second they set foot in Britain. So if you, we've heard of health tourism before, haven't we? But if you, the second you set foot off the boats and you get into these processing centres, there's a private health care firm that's waiting to see you. Our current NHS waiting list is something like 6.25 million people. So that grates on me a little bit. But yeah, you're splashing cash around all over the world, left right and centre we've got all the money in the world for everyone else but then it comes and actually just the wider nhs situation so again you've got the medical negligence side of it you've also got wastage wastage wastage i mean there was a i think it's a hospital in bromley painted the entire front of it in the rainbow flag well okay people might say well in the grand scheme of things that doesn't cost that much money but it adds up doesn't it you know hospitals are employing hospitals are employing things like um like art curators for the for for for the hallways.

56:32But, you know, diversity offices, all of that kind of stuff, which again, I know people go, oh, well, they're only on this. Yeah, but it adds up. 600 grand I saw on photography for Keir Starmer. Right, so how many nurses is that? Well, exactly. That's the thing. It could be 10 nurses on 60 grand. Yes, yes. Like that logo, that fucking logo. Which one? The government, the gov.uk logo. Oh, no. So I posted about that and it got millions of views. Gov.uk, they changed from, they moved the dot up and they changed the colour. Yeah. And it was more than half a million quid. Oh, and then there was like a massive report written by the company to justify the brand decision.

57:15Yeah. But it's a massive piss take. This is the thing. This is what winds me up, one of many things, in case you couldn't tell that winds me up, is that basically our British state is there for the taking. right is it mauritius tried it on over the chagos islands and then a former member of the chinese well current probably chinese communist party who happened to be a judge in the international court decided with mauritius because china have massive interest there and we went along with that ruling and we're paying them billions of pounds to give away our own islands so we're there for the taking in that we're there for the taking in that sense absolutely but then we're also there for the taking in a much smaller way, which is if you are a contractor, or whether it's a tradesman or whether it's a supplier, and a government department comes calling, you just charge them whatever you want.

58:06Like with the logo thing. Right, so what you want is a new logo. Oh, gosh, it's going to be a big job this for us. This is going to be a big job. We need to get it right because he imports the gravity of the situation. Right, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. A few million quid. It's like, what? I'll do it on clip art for you, mate, now. Well, I did a one-minute video, I explained it all, and there and then I got ChatGPT and it came out with three new logos and I thought two of them looked pretty good. Right, brilliant, exactly. I should have just billed them 400 grand and... They have no care for our money.

58:37No. So the British state has no care for people's money. But why don't they understand that if they did have care for our money, they'd have popularity and then they'd stay in power? Yeah. Why don't they understand that? Well, I think it's because a lot of them don't realise how good they've got it. So for a lot of people who work in the public sector, again, not including the nurses in this, but people who are civil servants and people who've been career politicians or that kind of ilk of person, they've only ever been paid ultimately by the taxpayer. There's also, a lot of those places, quite generous expenses schemes.

59:06So they don't... Millions of pounds. Millions of pounds. They don't quite understand. Like when I went to Calais, for example, and we do that over there. When we're looking at all of that stuff, like we're counting every penny. We're like, right, okay, this is how much it costs to go. Because you're a private company. Yeah, because we're a private company. Because you're a private company. Yeah. And it's your money. Yeah, we're looking at the hotel. It's your money, that's why. I'm at like a travel lodge or something, which is fine. I mean, I don't mind it. I don't need the Hilton. But, you know, this is it.

59:31And we're looking, I'll drive myself and I won't claim mileage. Yeah. And I'll pay for my own petrol. I do those little things. You know, I'll pay for my own petrol. Not like a martyr. I'm just saying that's the way it is. Because we're a private company and money matters to us. But someone like Ed Miliband, who's our net zero czar, can send a member of his staff on an all-inclusive trip to Brazil to look at a luxury hotel that they might stay in at the next COP conference and do a report back. The hotel's got a fucking website, Ed. It's got a website. Just look at the website like we all do. Have you got any holidays planned?

1:00:12No. No. Right, fine. I do work trips. Right. When you go on holiday, do you send a member of your staff to go and recce the hotel? No, you look online. I just stay at the same place I stayed before. Or use my bonvoy points. Yeah, right, there you go. Save even more money for the company. There you go, there you go. But you just look online, don't you? Because it's public money, they don't give a shit. But it's our money. I could maybe understand it if we were going through some kind of economic boom, and it didn't really matter. We're all well off. I had to wheelbarrow a load of cash out the wedge to get into this room.

1:00:50That's all right. That will be fine. But we're not there, are we? We've got the highest tax burden ever. Taxes are going to go up again. We've got a Labour government now that is looking at the very air we breathe and thinking, oh, could we tax that? So we're not there, are we? But they do not care about public money and that pisses me off because we all have to care. We all have to really care. Yeah, it's wrong. It's wrong. And something I also think about a lot. So, you know, I've bought companies in the past and I'll have a look at the books. And generally, any company I might buy, I can pretty much shave 20 % off the costs.

1:01:26You know, there's a few things you don't need to spend money on. Well, I'm sure we could do that with our trillion or 1.2 trillion or whatever it is. I'm sure there's 20 % that's froth that you could strip back. and so they're blaming this black hole on a previous government and they're spraying all this money around. But 20 % would be over 200 billion. Yeah. Nice, isn't it, that? So why don't they do a proper financial audit? Again, there is a problem there, which is that the people that would ultimately suffer as a result of that audit are a lot of... It's themselves. It's Harry Caray. That's the problem.

1:02:00It's suicide. You know. They're eating their own arms, isn't it? Like they're firing themselves from their own job. I want people to be directly accountable. I feel accountable. Like, you know, I'm thinking, there are things that I've said on this, but I can't give you any examples. The things that I've said to you today, now, during this conversation, because we're speaking very freely and I feel very comfortable with you and we kind of know each other a little bit. I guarantee you, when I get out of here now, I'm going to be playing things back in my head and I'm going to be thinking, You're going to WhatsApp on me going, take that, take that.

1:02:31Maybe I shouldn't have said that. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because I feel accountable for the things that come out of my mouth. And if I have to apologise for anything ever, and I've genuinely cocked up, I will do it, because I'm accountable. That's not the same for people who are in government or people who are in things like the civil service. Again, you've got a situation there like in the immediate aftermath of Brexit, there was a civil servant that nearly gave Gibraltar back to the Spanish without a shot being fired. And Dominic Raab, who was the minister in charge of that department at the time, got very angry about that, as I think he had a right to be.

1:03:04And then they did him for bullying. and it's like right did anything happen sorry hang on a minute we seem to be ignoring the there's someone in the civil service who nearly gave gibraltar to the spanish i bet they've still got a job when they will have a job unless they you can't sack anyone for the civil service you can't like when the government said oh we're scrapping rwanda we've had a thousand people who have been working on the rwanda scheme we're going to scrap that they didn't sack any of them they just moved them to different departments there's no accountability in that area of life the kind of accountability that people, especially like you, running and owning companies and employing people, I mean, I shudder to think about that.

1:03:41But you have that. They don't. No. And that's ultimately the flaw in the public sector, isn't it? Massively. It is an incredibly flawed system. I think people should fear, within reason, I think people should have a fear of being caught out of doing things wrong. Yeah, fine. but also having to take responsibility if things don't go right because that then drives you towards hopefully making a better decision. Now, people know you from GB News. What's your story? Well, when I went to university, I did politics at university, but I did that purely because I just wanted to waste three years of my life.

1:04:22I didn't know I wanted to do it. You succeeded then. Yeah. And probably got 45 grand in debt in the process. I had a 5 % attendance record in second year. Wow. Yeah, shocking. That's impressive. That's shocking. So yeah, so then when the university finished, I realised I was like, oh, shit, right, okay, I need to use this for me now. I wanted to be a war correspondent, and it's the only time that my mum and dad have ever, ever, you kind of got involved in my career, and I'm glad they did. They just said, look, you're an only child. We'll support you in whatever it is that you decide to do, but just please, please don't do that because, like, you know, you are our world, really.

1:04:57and like going off to Raka. And, you know, so far, so I thought, okay, what's the next best day? I'll go into journalism. Went into journalism and I immediately, immediately found my call. I feel kind of like my calling, really. I absolutely loved it. I'm the kind of person that if I'm not interested in it, I can't focus on it. I can't keep my attention on it for any period of time. And I will not try. like my effort and it's a bad thing to admit about yourself but like it is kind of it's it's true for me so i found my calling found my passion and just went absolutely all guns blazing at it um and was was willing to work hours that other people weren't willing to work for free um just to get just get as much experience as i possibly could um yeah whilst other people were uh going into like desperately about the age of say 20 or 21 you know wanted to move to london for the night life or big cities for the nightlife and this that and the other i i went the other way i went up to cumbria to get a job at the westmoreland gazette which is a brilliant local paper because i realized it had a massive patch there's a lot of political diversity and a lot of different stories going on and if i could dominate there i would get stories that and experiences that nobody else my age was getting i always had the mentality that i felt as though i needed to be doing more than anyone else my age in the country for that time that's and i've always worked off that I've always tried to is that when I look around now is that anyone else my age who's at the level that I'm at and if I can if I can try and maintain that or at least you know think I'm maintaining anyway um that that's the way I want to be so yeah so so I attacked that and then got a call it was a job at the day the daily express and the daily star both of their online outlets were at the time I don't know if they still are owned by the same person the same company and there was a role for overnight reporter there.

1:06:57The hours were, I think it was 11pm until 7am and the money was shit, like shit and it wouldn't have involved moving to London but I just realised that was the way into the Nationals so I went for that job, I got that job and then quite quickly became the overnight editor there which was a lot of pressure and responsibility and it coincided with the time of Trump's election the initial first wave of the migrant crisis in Europe which unsurprisingly came hand in hand with a lot of terrorist attacks as well um brexit that time period so i learned a lot there and and and really again just just attacked that i made a lot of sacrifices there i mean that also kind of screwed me up a little bit i mean i've spoken very honestly about about um in the past about the fact that you know i'm i'm an alcoholic i have to work very hard at that well to get into a role i suppose but um yeah but um that ruined my out my my internal body clock you know my 7 a.m really was was most people's 7 or 8 p.m um and and it was a huge amount of stress and pressure I was making these massive editorial decisions that I was unequipped to do really at the time um and and it it it had it had a mental impact on me but I realized that that that was a means to an end if I did that came to do that I would have a load a load of experiences that no one else my age was going to have at that time.

1:08:20So I did that. And then left ultimately really because I realized I wasn't, the natural progression there, because print was dying, the online media side of it, there's a lot of journalism in there. I decided that, you know, I wanted to try to get into a bit more TV and radio. And because I wasn't like the political editor or the royal correspondent or anything like that, they don't put you forward for TV gigs there. So I decided to kind of go a bit more freelance. And that worked. That was a risk um and and then when you are when you are for your answer you're completely self-reliant aren't you so you know i started getting tv and radio gigs because i was willing to take a position on brexit that was maybe quite unusual for a younger person at that time um and then just trying just trying to to build my way up really and then and then did build my way up started working at a radio station that was run by kelvin mckenzie that radio station collapsed under under COVID.

1:09:10But again, with that, I was willing to do, the only reason I got that job as a presenter there was because they needed someone initially to do a newspaper slot at two o 'clock in the morning for like 10 or 15 minutes. And I said, I'd do it. I think, I don't think I was being paid for it. So I'd go and do it. And I saw that I thought, if I do this well, they'll listen to me and they'll think I should have a show. And they did. And I got a show. And then by the end, I was doing both the breakfast and the drive time show because they didn't have anyone else and the company was going pop anyway so um and then and then i then i had a quite a bad experience really during covid because i was still still freelance i i had three freelance gigs and they all called they called me i had three phone calls back to back to back in a day to say we can't and we're gonna have to let you go because i don't got any money the company's fucked and the country's fucked i think we're all going to die um and I was splitting up with my then girlfriend and so I had to leave I had to leave London move back into my parents spare room I was I think I was 30 and I and I was so I was unemployed I owed HMRC quite a bit of money was in my parents spare room and didn't think and I thought my career was over and then I got a phone call one day from what was then talk radio which is now talk tv I was screw I remember I was screwing the Christmas tree into the stand in my parents conservatory and i got the phone call and someone had got covid at talk and they said look can you just cover them for a day and luckily for me i think that person they're alive now but they stayed ill for a while so um so i i i thought okay i'm going to come down to london got on the train and i'm just going to throw everything at this and they called me the morning after that show and they said right can you can you do more shows for us and then i got on there permanently and then GB News came calling and for the first month that I was at GB News I was, it's quite Alan Partridge this, I was living in a hotel because I'd basically come down to London with a bag to last me a weekend for this one radio show at Torg and essentially kind of not come back for months really and then found myself on the telly and then just tried to work hard and build up and cover people's shows when they were off ill or when they went on holiday and here we are now, really.

1:11:28I've kind of prattled on a bit there, but I suppose that's the story. That's great. And something I'd like to know is, is there a story you really wanted to cover but you couldn't? I mean, I must say I'm very intrigued to find out what happens with the Prime Minister's property being firebombed by, allegedly, by some quite interesting Ukrainian chaps. But again, with that, it's not the answer that I think you're expecting because what I'm going to say is that what really frustrates me is the contempt of court laws that we have in this country. So when you say, like, a story I'd like to cover but can't, the reason that you can't is almost inevitably because of a contempt of court issue.

1:12:12Right. So, like, major news events will happen where I'll want to steam into it, right? You steam it. Yeah, and be like, you know, and tee off and be like, I'm so angry about it, whether it's been some attack or like a rape or a terror attack or someone's been arrested for something. And you just can't until... Like the Southport stuff. The Southport stuff, you know. You want to have those immediate conversations, don't you, about what kind of evil, sadistic monster would have done this. And you have to use the word allegedly. at the start of that until he's been found guilty. And look, to an extent, that's fair enough.

1:12:55I would hate, I hope this never happens, but I would hate to be charged with a crime that I knew I hadn't committed and then turn on the media and see everyone calling me guilty, guilty before I'd gone on. I would hate that. So I do get it. But no, that winds me up. I'm trying to think if there's ever been a story that's been pulled. I mean, I'm not just saying this. Genuinely, I'm not just saying this. But like, GB News really do try and get stuff on. And the only, you know, they really do. I mean, I have back and forth with the lawyers and back and forth with a couple of the management who I like to think I've got a very good relationship with.

1:13:34You have those conversations, but I mean, literally 99 % of the time we've done it. And then that 1 % of the time we haven't, it's probably because I was wrong about it and we'd have got sued. Yeah. You know, and actually that was the right call. So do we actually have free speech right now? Well, no. Well, we don't have entire free speech. No, of course we don't. Should we? Yeah. It's a question of to what point, though, isn't it? Because this is the thing that always stumps me on this one, which is that I don't want... Sorry to bring it back to the Imams. But I don't want a radical hate preacher who's an Islamist extremist to be able to preach that stuff.

1:14:18So I suppose that I'm not in favour of total free speech, am I? So, yeah, so there has to be limits on things, doesn't there? There has to be limits on things. So whether it's an incitement to violence or whatever. But in this country, it's gone way too far. So, you know, we have parents who were arrested by police and detained because they put something in a WhatsApp group about the local school. They're basically just critical of, I think it was like the headmaster of a local school. you had a middle-aged woman around the Manchester area who basically said she didn't like the local Labour council and police officers turned up at their door.

1:14:54That's the level of 30 arrests. Is it 30 arrests a day for online speech, I think? Free speech union did something on that. I think it's 30 arrests a day for it. So no, we don't have free speech. And that is brought very sharply into focus, by the way. We've got a new show on GB News, which is The Late Show Live, which is midnight till 2am. and it's based in America because there's a huge crossover between issues and American issues here. And we did a thing where Ben Leo, one of our presenters, was at a Palestine demonstration over there and there was a bloke openly waving the Hamas flag with the Hamas thing on.

1:15:35There was a bloke with an ISIS flag there and he went up to me and he was like, so do you support Hamas? And he was like, yeah! And he was like, but are they not a prescribed terror group? And he was like, yeah! And he was like, well, but why are you saying it? He's like, first amendment, baby. And it's like, right, okay. But when you look at America, you look at it and you think they are a country that has absolute free speech. As far as I understand it, they have absolute free speech and we are, we are not there. And yeah, I think, I think, I think we need to, we need to have a bit more of it.

1:16:08I think really. So a couple more questions. Yeah. Want to get into the economy. Right. My view is everything starts with the economy. And when the economy is going, well, we're not pissed off about all these other things. And ultimately, if we can't afford to pay for things, I did a little tweet,£7 for a pack of butter,£8 for sourdough bread, I think it was£8 or£9 for a pack of salmon. So essentially to make you and your family a sandwich is 21 quid now. Yeah. And 6 million views because people can relate because everything's so fucking expensive. And if we sort that out, surely everything else is better.

1:16:46So what can we do to sort the economy out? What are Labour and the UK getting wrong? Well, firstly, we need to do away with a lot of the waste that we've spoken about early on. If you're spending money on completely needless things, a couple of big aspects of that will be getting rid of any benefit payments for illegal immigrants, but also, I would argue, newly arrived legal immigrants. I mean it's an astronomical amount of money that we are just giving in welfare shaving things back on the welfare state like motability vehicles for people who've got tennis elbow or whatever it is all of that stuff can go straight away reducing then also just the size of the British state so let's say that we reduce the civil service by like a third or two thirds you take a huge amount of money off the bill there I would stop giving pointless amounts of money abroad so the foreign aid I think is complete and not a myth mainly because that only that the only work foreign aid only works if you accept the view that if we give them this money they'll make their own country better and then they'll stay there which is not happening so we're giving a load of countries a load of money and then we're also just taking everyone from those countries who wants to come here legally or illegally anyway so that's pointless um so there's that i would i'd get rid of almost all of the net zero stuff and just um start using the resources that are under our own feet.

1:18:07That would have a huge knock-on effect on everything because part of the reason why things like your food bills are so expensive is because those shops also have to pay to keep the lights on and the fridges running, and that gets passed on, and that's part of the net zero cost to that as well. So I do all of those things. And another thing that I would do as well is I would have, in the wake of Brexit, probably tried to turn us into something like Singapore on Thames. And what's wrong with giving people quite big tax, but seriously incentivise people to turn us into a hub where people from all around the world can start businesses, put their head offices, you know, manufacture things, make things.

1:19:02That would bring jobs. That would bring wealth. And yeah, okay, a lot of people on the left would go, well, at the very top of that, there'd be a couple of Jeff Bezos's who aren't paying any tax. Yeah, but beneath them, there might be like 20 ,000 people who have a job now. So, you know, and then, yeah, all of that, I'd, yeah, I think that would, I'd get rid of some of the ridiculous planning laws. So if you, for example, HS2 is a good example of it. I mean, the fact that it couldn't get built for a start, we spent about 100 million quid on a back tunnel. This is utterly, utterly, utterly pointless stuff.

1:19:35It is laughable that a country the size of Britain, how long it takes you to get from like Hull to London. So we need to just scrap that, just build, baby build. I mean, look at what China's doing with this kind of stuff. I mean, I just saw they built one of the world's largest suspension bridges. It took them, was it two years? They've got a theme park in it and a waterfall to make it aesthetically nice. And they've saved what used to be something like a five-hour car journey and it's now two minutes or something. And I get that people are going to go, well, they don't have any human rights in China.

1:20:04Yeah, fine, I get that. There has to be a happy medium, though, doesn't there, between China and the Bat Tunnel. Like, there's got to be. So unleash it and unlock it and do away with things like stamp duty, get that property market moving, make people feel as though they can get on the ladder. Because at the moment, we've got people who are hoarding property because they don't want to, understandably, they don't want to move. They bought a four or five bedroom house when they had kids. The kids have moved out. They don't want to sell it because they don't want to, they don't want to end up having to pay a shit ton of money on it.

1:20:34So yeah, just do all of those things, I would say. Yeah. And probably a few more as well, but I can't think of right now. Oh, great. So let's paint a positive picture of the UK. I promise that we'll try and be positive. Okay. So what's good about the UK still? And what things do you think we could currently do that could improve the country? Okay, right. What's good about the country? Still love the countryside. I was very, very lucky to spend a couple of years living and working up in the Lake District, so around Cumbria. And I think it's both breathtakingly beautiful, but also solid rural culture is fantastic.

1:21:09Humour. We've still got incredible British humour. you know annoyingly I think a lot of that has been taken over by now unfunny left-wing comedians which is exactly why things like I got news for you I think I got news for you used to be brilliant mock the week used to be really good when Frankie Boyle was just completely unhinged right and then now yeah I loved it and then obviously you kind of went a bit work whatever fine but you know it's like but we still traditionally um yeah I think the British sense of humor like I kind of like sarcastic dry wit is is unmatched unmatched which is why how many other countries have tried to replicate the office right you know that exactly so we've got that um i think that we still there's something in the water in britain like when when when the wall was on not to be the wall but you know people like alan churing and all of these people like people who are cracking the enigma code and it wasn't just i mean there's probably about a million other people like that that we just never heard about for good reason people who came up with things like operation mincemeat all that stuff that's an inherently british mindset we were just we're exceptional outside the box thinkers, inventors, entrepreneurs, that kind of, we must, you can't breed that out in just a couple of generations, so we must still have that, so I'd like us to kind of reinvigorate that, because the arts create some of the best music the world has ever seen, so yeah, I mean there's a huge amount to be very, very positive about, we just need to unleash the beast, we just need to like Like, let the British lion roar, you know, let it out of its cage.

1:22:36Let's just give it another crack, you know, while we're kind of shackling it there and keeping it tranquilised. You know, just come on, we're all still here. Like, you know, and for all that talk to come full circle a bit, I know we spoke a bit about people leaving at the start, but personally, I think that a lot of people, most people who left Britain left reluctantly and because they felt like they didn't have a choice. And if you give them the opportunity to come back, I think a lot of them will come back. So that's a positive. That's something that we could do. Make it so that those great people who have left actually want to come back.

1:23:10And I think they will. And wouldn't that be a triumph, actually? Seriously, like, wouldn't that be the kind of thing that if you were in politics, could actually sort you out for the next general election? If you, at the time that the next general election comes around, you can point and go, people are coming back to Britain under my leadership. You'd want to be able to say that, wouldn't you? It'd be a beautiful thing. So, yeah. Yeah, it would. So, final question. And this can be anything. Okay, go on. A secret you've never shared or a story you've never told. I was not going to say that. It can be anything, but there must be something.

1:23:47So, I got caught shoplifting in the most ridiculous way. So, when I was at university, I, well, like most students, So any money I had just went on like booze and other stuff. So I had one of those barber jacket, like farmer type jackets, which had an inside pocket that if you cut through the lining of it, just opened up the entire jacket. So I, for some reason, I don't really know why I did. I think I was just a bit of an idiot. I was just a bit of an idiot. I'd gone into the Sainsbury's that was just opposite where I lived and I'd gone in there and I was probably a bit hungover and run down and all this stuff so instead of just like getting a meal deal I was like no I am gonna make myself a roast dinner I am fuck it I'm gonna do it so I picked up all the items um and and then I was like it's gonna cost me a bit of money this so what's the most expensive item was probably probably the chicken right so i put an entire cooked by the way it's still hot one of those hot rotisserie chickens into the inner lining of my jacket um and then i thought but then once you've done that then you think well i might as well put everything in there now once once the rotisserie chicken's in right you're like oh and i kind of immediately like got the taste for it and i was like yeah Yeah, here we go.

1:25:18Things like halloumi cheese, which doesn't go with the roast. I decided to put that in the inner lining of my jacket. Anyway, so then I'd done the token effort of paying for something like toilet roll. And as I was bonking out of the shop, the security guard just stops me and was like, sorry, Steve, you know, what's going on here? And he frisked me and he took out of the inner lining of my jacket a hot cooked chicken, all the other components that you'd need for a roast dinner. And then I looked him in the eye and I was like, Sorry, I didn't realise I was in there. And then I had to go to the till.

1:25:51There's a woman behind the till shaking her head. Just had to pay for it, obviously. And then it didn't prosecute me or anything because I think he thought it was so ridiculous. And then I just remember walking home being like, I am never doing that again. I am never doing that again. Because can you imagine how that court case would have gone? Seriously, you're at a magistrate's court and you're up for stealing a rotisserie chicken that you've put in, that you've secreted in the inner lining of a barber jacket. it what prick you know and and shout out to the security guard yeah it sounded like handled you pretty well yeah because i think made your pay embarrassed you you won't do it again but he's cool because if you think about that he'd watched me do it all i can he probably he probably thought what is he what's going on this yeah i hope he does i hope he does but yeah he probably just thought i can't believe this probably made his day in a way i don't know if you ever been frisked before and someone's pulled a chicken out you know but that is it's quite a degrading experience It is.

1:26:43It's like we're in the greasy paper as well, you know, where it comes out and just flops a chicken down next to you and just looks at you like, you know. It wasn't my finest hour. I've never done it before. I've never done it since. Don't steal things. Final thing. Yeah. Where are you most active on social media? Where can we follow you? Is there anything that, you know, you promote? Yeah, okay. Well, X, I suppose, is just at Patrick Christie's. Instagram, I think, is the same handle. I'm not massively on TikTok. So, oh, can I promo something? You can promo whatever you want. I'll tell you what I started doing.

1:27:14Cameo. Do you do Cameo? No. Right. Well, I do Cameo now. And so I'm going to get this up. Thank you for letting me do this, actually. I forgot about it. So you just search my name, Patrick Christie's. I think the handle is at Patrick Christie's GB on Cameo. And what Cameo is, if you're not aware, is that, you know, you can pay for, it's not a lot, I think it's like 20 quid or something, for me to do a personalised video. for you or your family or your friends or whatever it is. So if it's a happy birthday or someone's ill or someone recently, they had like a 13-year-old son who was struggling a bit at school and he wanted me to give him a pep talk.

1:27:49I don't just like fart it out where I'll just do 20 seconds. I'll do a good few minutes and chat away and all that kind of stuff. So look, Christmas is coming up, isn't it? So if you want to give the loved one the present they've always dreamed of, then you can go on Cameo and search my name and give me a bit of money to do a personalised video. Awesome. Is that shameless? is that the worst grift you've ever had? No, definitely not. But you're very skilled at it. Oh, good. Thank you. Cheers, mate. Thank you. Yeah, because really, it's all about you. I'm doing you a favour. Of course. That's it, yeah.

1:28:18Patrick, thank you very much. Thank you, man. I've loved it. Thank you. Thank you.

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