Sadia Khan On Why It's Your Fault If You Get Cheated On

7 Sep 2025 · 1 h 21 min · 31 chapters

Ask about this episode

Ask anything about it. ChatGPT or Claude reads this page and answers with the times it was said.

Connect VO and ask about every podcast you hear, including the moments you saved. Add to ChatGPT · Add to Claude

In short

The episode argues that modern dating and cheating are driven by “self-inflicted” male loneliness, porn/OnlyFans and social-media sexualization, and “hijacked” parenting that produces soft fathers and passive men. It also claims loyalty is mainly about options, marriage longevity depends on “why” and fear of alternatives rather than love, and women are better at hiding infidelity.

Guest

Sadia Khan, a therapist who specializes in masculinity (self-described). She speaks from a clinical perspective and also shares personal experience of being hit by her father (open-hand, not in the face) and later marrying.

Key claims

Men are depressed because doom-scrolling sexual content reduces in-person motivation and social skills; men chase short-term highs (porn, quick money) and lose “suffering”/testosterone. Cheating happens because partners are naive and don’t monitor behaviors/boundaries; cheaters select people with weak boundaries. Women cheat at least equally but hide it better; men admit more. Parenting should include consequences and some fear/respect for fathers (not abuse). Marriage is a commitment/skill, not romance; divorce reflects love fading. Dubai dating is framed as lifestyle-driven female promiscuity.

Notable examples

Chris Watts documentary used to illustrate why she thinks kids should fear consequences. “Wives come home at 4 a.m.” and “random lingerie” as behavioral warning signs. Dubai examples include women living lavishly without clear jobs.

Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.

Chapters

Tap a time to open that second in VO

The Breakdown of Modern Dating

0:45 to 3:00

Exploring the reasons behind the failure of modern relationships.

“Is there a loneliness epidemic in men right now?”

The Loneliness Epidemic in Men

3:00 to 6:00

Discussion on how social media and content saturation lead to loneliness in men.

“When they want to make money, they'll try and find like bitcoins or quick ways to do it.”

Impact of Parenting on Masculinity

6:00 to 9:00

How modern parenting styles contribute to the issues faced by young men today.

“You're hitting them not because you hate them and you're abusing them.”

The Debate on Discipline in Parenting

9:00 to 12:00

Discussions on the role of discipline and fear in parenting young boys.

“But that's what therapy especially teaches men.”

The Role of Women in Modern Society

12:00 to 14:01

Exploring the consequences of women's independence and societal expectations.

“What she's actually saying is when you are home, just be more present.”

Marriage as a Skill

14:01 to 18:04

Explore the concept that marriage is a skill developed over time, rather than just a romantic connection.

“What they don't realize, marriage is actually a skill.”

The Why Behind Marriage

18:05 to 20:59

Discusses the motivations for marriage and the factors that contribute to its longevity.

“But at the moment, this seems like women will always want to be married.”

Gender Differences in Cheating

21:00 to 23:29

Analyzes the differences between men and women in terms of cheating behavior and perceptions.

“But people like to think it's love, but it's actually more practical than that.”

Naivety and Boundaries in Relationships

23:30 to 28:00

Examines how naivety and lack of boundaries can lead to infidelity in relationships.

“is probably the more loyal one the one with the most alternatives is probably more likely so you're You're saying there isn't really any loyalty.”

The Impact of Intimacy on Relationships

28:00 to 29:42

Explore how a lack of intimacy can lead to disconnection and infidelity in relationships.

“You probably met someone in your local town, dated them.”
Show all 31 chapters

Narcissism in Modern Relationships

29:42 to 31:28

Discuss the perception of narcissism in men and women, and its implications in dating.

“Who's more narcissistic, men or women, and why?”

The Role of Social Media in Dating

31:28 to 33:28

Understand how social media influences dating dynamics and personal expectations in relationships.

“Whenever somebody uses the word narcissist, I know they are one.”

The Dating Scene in Dubai

35:36 to 37:12

Examine the unique dating dynamics and challenges faced by women in Dubai.

“This is not investment advice and it is not recommendation to buy or sell any particular digital asset.”

Challenges for Entrepreneurial Daters

37:12 to 41:33

Discover the difficulties entrepreneurial individuals face in dating and relationships.

“So you're saying that no matter how successful you are in Dubai, a woman is likely to exchange you for a more successful guy.”

Modern Parenting and Community

41:33 to 42:00

Discuss the loneliness and challenges of modern parenting and the impact of outsourcing.

“But when she's never achieved anything, you've just thrown her into this really lucky lifestyle, she can start to develop a little bit of depression.”

The Changing Role of Housewives

42:00 to 43:30

Explore the challenges modern housewives face and the impact of social media.

“There's a lot of problem solving that goes on there.”

Parenting and Nannies: A Dilemma

43:30 to 47:20

Discuss the implications of outsourcing parenting to nannies and the consequences for children.

The OnlyFans Phenomenon

47:20 to 48:30

Analyze the shocking statistics about OnlyFans and the societal factors behind it.

“that you won't find really strong, masculine, healthy men all night subscribing on OnlyFans.”

The Role of Fathers in Women's Lives

48:30 to 50:50

Examine the importance of fathers in shaping women's future relationships and self-respect.

“So whenever men don't do their job correctly, we create a society of women who are capitalizing on these weak men.”

Key Reasons for Relationship Failures

50:50 to 53:20

Identify the main reasons relationships fail and the importance of choosing partners wisely.

“Now, you have to experience being loved by a man in the form of a daughter first before you can go on to love them as a wife.”

Understanding Masculinity Today

53:20 to 55:40

Delve into the modern understanding of masculinity and its relevance for men and women.

“Are you kind of like a modern-day pick-up artist coach?”

Preparing Children for the Real World

55:40 to 56:00

Learn about the importance of teaching children self-defense and survival skills in today's world.

“So I definitely think I'm a very good problem solver.”

Preparing Children for a Harsh World

56:00 to 58:06

Learn why teaching resilience and real-world skills is crucial for children.

“And, you know, my son's 14 and I'm now seriously thinking, do I have to teach him how to fight and defend himself where it used to be safe in Peterborough?”

Understanding Male Depression and Decision Making

58:06 to 1:00:38

Explore the connection between poor decision-making and male depression.

“best rather than being unconditionally accepted for all their nonsense.”

The Impact of Pornography on Young Men

1:00:38 to 1:02:35

Discover how pornography affects young men's sexual experiences and behaviors.

“If you're really being responsible, looking after kids, looking after your family, you shouldn't be able to have the time to be as depressed, which I know they're going to hate in the comments.”

Forgiveness and Letting Go

1:02:35 to 1:04:39

Understand the importance of forgiveness and its role in personal happiness.

“I've been hurt by parents and siblings and partner.”

Navigating Relationships and Infidelity

1:04:39 to 1:10:02

Gain insights on handling infidelity and the importance of awareness in relationships.

“That being said, in a relationship, what's the most you've been hurt?”

Understanding Relationship Dynamics

1:10:02 to 1:13:06

Explore the key mistakes men make in relationships and how it leads to cheating.

“if I'm being honest, it's probably better to take it from somebody who's actually experienced it.”

Common Mistakes Women Make

1:13:07 to 1:14:56

Learn about the significant errors women often commit in relationships.

“So I would say the first thing is probably ignoring those red flags.”

Self-Reflection and Personal Growth

1:14:57 to 1:16:16

Discuss the importance of self-awareness and handling personal flaws.

“What do you think of Andrew Tate's relationship advice?”

Defining a Disruptor

1:16:17 to 1:17:28

Gain insights on what it means to be a disruptor in the current landscape.

“Someone who is willing to go against the majority to stand up for what they think is a better way of doing said task.”
Hear the part that matters, and keep it.Open this episode in VO. Double tap your headphones to save a moment as you listen.
Get VO free

Transcript

Automatic transcript. May contain errors.

0:00Forget what you feel. Behave correctly. Your feelings will follow. Parenting has been hijacked. We've created narcissistic women and passive men. And how we've created that is... So has modern dating broken down? Absolutely. And I feel like it's almost self-inflicted. What are the top three reasons relationships fail? The first one is... Find a promiscuous woman is a man that didn't do his job correctly. Who cheats more, men or women? Women. Yeah, they're just better at it. Women are better at cheating. So just accept it. Has anyone ever hurt you? I don't even like talking about it. What I would say is...

0:33But OnlyFans is a consequence of men being disturbed. Modern way of teaching you is a happy life first and then worry about success. And they've got it the wrong way around. So as a therapist specialising in masculinity, what is making men the most depressed? It's usually just a couple of things. Number one thing is... Is there a loneliness epidemic in men right now? Absolutely. And I feel like it's almost self-inflicted. I think. What, it's men's fault? Everything. I always say everything is men's fault. Unfortunately, it's quite self-inflicted. And the reason I'm saying that, and again, it's not totally self-inflicted because they are growing up in a time where they're bombarded with sexualized content.

1:14And so what ends up happening is instead of the usual drive that they would have had 10, 15, 20 years ago to, you know, every time they're getting bored or tired or need sex, they would go out. They would get ready. They dress up. They go out. They go to clubs. They'd hunt for women. Essentially. Now what they do is scroll. They scroll a lot. So they kind of saturate themselves with sexualized content online. They reduce their own motivation to speak to women in person. And then because they are lonely, they reduce their social skills to just have conversations with women that aren't sexualized.

1:46They reduce their natural personality skills and therefore they become more and more fearful of speaking to women in the real world. So that fear and self-inflicted loneliness from doom scrolling, sexualized content is why they're so lonely at the moment. But is that men's fault or is that the big corporations that create these social media platforms that get us hooked and addicted? Or is it feminism's fault? Yeah. Or is it the women on social media who are putting out the doctored, filtered pictures of themselves? Well, it's probably everything. Yeah, in honesty, it's very difficult to be a young man in this day and age.

2:25I have no idea what it would be like if you're 14, 13 years old and you can see the hottest girl every single day on your computer screen without having to talk to her or sometimes not even having to spend any money. So the temptation is incredible. But at the same time, they are living in a world where they've got lots of information. Maybe 10 years ago, they wouldn't have had so many podcasts explaining about the dangers of pornography. They wouldn't have had so much fitness content online. They wouldn't have had so much spiritual content online. they are also being bombarded with good content and it's what they decide to indulge in it's not all of them there's so many men that have managed to escape that kind of programming but the ones that are very heavily involved in it are the ones that have passively accepted the indoctrination that's coming to them in this world so why are men so lonely then because they're looking for shortcuts they're looking for short-term highs rather than long-term goals and what i mean by that is when they're, you know, let's say, for example, they're horny, they'll watch pornography.

3:20When they want to make money, they'll try and find like bitcoins or quick ways to do it. They've lost their grip to actually suffer a little bit. They haven't got the suffering in them anymore. And because they don't have any suffering in them, they kind of losing their testosterone. And what ends up happening is they become softer and softer. And not only do women not find that attractive, men, other men don't find that attractive. Other people don't find and they lose their confidence. So because they've got it so easy, they've unfortunately become men that people don't want to be around. So is that society's fault?

3:54Is that the cycle we're in? Because there's this saying, isn't there, that hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times. Hard times create strong men. And it seems like that's a cycle. Do you think it's a mark in society? that we're in? Yeah, it's just, it starts with the parenting. I think what's happened is parenting has been hijacked where it was almost too strict before and it was almost too cold, but it's now the parenting has become as soft as possible. So what's happened is if you try and be tough with your kids, it's seen as abuse.

4:29If you try and put boundaries on them, it's seen as being emotionally neglectful. So you're growing up with men who have really soft mothers and then incredibly soft fathers that they didn't used to have in the past. In the past, you'd be terrified of your father, or you'd be a bit scared that your father's going to find out or you'd have that natural fear in your home. That's been obliterated because if you have a fearful father, he's seen as a narcissist. So they don't have anything in the home that makes them work a bit harder and they don't have those consequences at home and then it extends into the real world.

4:56So whenever they are faced with any kind of difficulty, they crumble rather than excel. And I think that we're seeing a lot of that behaviour coming from the household first. so do you think young boys uh maybe should be spanked i said i don't think they should be hit but i think that i mean my dad hit me a few times and not never with a fist yeah always open and never in the face but um he hit me and it hurt and um i don't think that was a bad thing at all i've been hit by my mom never by my father but my mom i think it's different with women yeah it's a gender thing like i think my mom would probably like give us a slap but my father would never hit one of our one of us and i honestly so should i father spank boys it's not that they should or shouldn't it's just that they it doesn't just because you were spanked doesn't mean you're abused and i think what current like young generation think is my dad once hit me because i you know spilled something on the floor or because i failed my exams and i was like yeah but kids there's a there's a big difference between abuse and hitting sometimes kids will test you I'm not a parent yet, so I don't know.

6:07But sometimes they will test you. You're hitting them not because you hate them and you're abusing them. There are parents that do that, and that's absolutely wrong. But there should be a natural consequence in the home that you know that you can't cross your father. What's happening in this day and age, because there's so many broken homes, mothers will use that natural fear that children have against their fathers as a way to weaponize it and say, oh, he's a narcissist, you should not see your father, so on and so forth. But also, boys are growing up thinking, oh, my God, my dad told me he's such a narcissist.

6:33Oh, my God, my dad used to make me feel so scared of him. He's such a this. They're almost pathologizing just a normal masculine interaction. So I think they need fear in their home of their father to some extent. They know that they can't go too far before dad steps in and lets you know what's what. Did your dad do that with you? Yeah. So my dad would hit me. Maybe he did it 10 times in my growing up life. and only and every time it was when he perceived I'd hurt my sister. So I actually believe it was a good thing. Absolutely. It was always bum, leg, never upper body. I was petrified of doing it.

7:22I suppose one downside was that because I was so scared of crossing my dad, I would hide things from him. and it probably taught me to hide things or to or to lie about some things if you're so scared of the consequence of doing something you might hide it or lie so I think but in a way I know everybody says oh I want to be that parent that my kid comes to and never lies and I want my kid to be a bit scared to tell me certain things I want them to be terrified I want them to rather call the police than call me because you're going to get more trouble from me than you are the police so I think this idea that we should be their best friend and they should be able to tell us everything I would see it as a disrespect if I could tell my parents every bad behavior I've done and still get respect from them and the reason I say that is I watched this documentary on this guy who had strangled his two babies and his wife Chris Watts his name was and disposed of them and he because he was having an affair and uh he had the police interrogation they're interrogating him and he wouldn't confess as soon as his dad came in his dad was like you can tell me son and he told the dad the truth and dad was like I'm proud of you hugged him and I thought to myself I could never confess that to my father.

8:27Like I killed his grandchildren. My father would kill me for killing his grandkids. The fact that they have this soft relationship just leads to behaviors that they're not proud of. But why are you so open about doing so much wrong? Because I think where your parents accept it is what you'll start to think is normal. So the more you accept and the more you can listen to and the more you kind of embrace in your child's bad behavior, the more they think is normal. So I actually think it's a good thing that you hid certain things from your father you should be he should be proud he's like well I taught him to respect me enough to be scared to tell me something like that because he knows that with me you won't run you can tell that to your friends and your boys who don't you know you're not afraid of but me you should respect enough not to tell me everything yeah I mean the more I think about what I see and perceive as modern parenting the more I think my dad did a great job great um because he my dad had so much pain growing up his mum died when he was two um obviously his parents were of the war generation his dad I think had no emotion towards him yeah his dad died when he was 18 so he lost both parents by age 18 really like closed up emotionally and the way he would show love was by fighting to always look after us he helped me buy my first house he helped me buy my first car and he put me through good education and he never said he loved me and he hit me from time to time never abuse yeah but he showed me love in a way that was really important but by support by creating things by working hard and um that seems to have gone a bit yeah and i think that's a really important point because i think the main problem with men we have today with their masculinity is that they shouldn't actually fall in love they should fall into work and what i mean by that is their job is not to just sit there and dote on a woman and be obsessed with her and write her poems and fall in love with her it should be she's a good woman right let me work hard let me go get a house let me go get a get married let me give like you start a family with her if I love she's a good woman let me do something similarly with their kids it's like yes you can sit there and be nanny all day but or you can say right my kids need to get to school they need to be scared of me because then they get they're going to be rude to their mom they can't be rude to their sisters they can't be rude to their mom they can't be bad in school let me do that to show my love for them But what modern masculinity is, oh, you should be so emotionally available.

10:49You should be so emotional. You should be so sensitive. You should be so soft. It's feminine. It's not respectable. I think I just sicked in my mouth. But that's what therapy especially teaches men. It teaches them to kind of really be in touch with their emotions, really realize their boundaries, really do all of these things, when really it should just be, and I'm saying this as a therapist myself, but my focus is on behave in the way that's correct rather than feel. Forget what you feel. Behave correctly. Your feelings will follow. But what modern society teaches men is to get so in touch with their feelings that they get debilitated.

11:21They don't do anything. And as a result, they're not as attractive anymore, both as fathers and partners. Wow. Something I find is a paradox in the world of entrepreneurship. I've been an entrepreneur for 20 years. Is, you know, you've got these men who are entrepreneurs who are mission focused. They have ambition. And I'm told by many people that mission and ambition is one of the most attractive qualities of a man. and then you've got women saying oh no no you can't be so busy you can't work hard you can't do this you can't do that you don't do that you need to be with me you need to spend time with me more time with me more time with me and I find that's a real um paradox for a man to be in like we were apparently attractive for our mission and ambition and now you're trying to get us to stop it so we can be more emotionally available and listen to all your all of your problems where's the balance um it's not that you have to be constantly available it's just that when you are available you're attuned to your partner in those moments so they don't actually mind that you're busy what they do mind is when we are together you're still preoccupied so it's not busyness it's preoccupation that bothers them so if when you're busy work out the house and you're doing everything and you're she doesn't exist in your world no problem but when you do come home all it takes is that one-on-one devoted time that where you're not on your phone not thinking about something else you're present that's what she's actually saying so what men see that as oh you want me to quit my job and just be homeless.

12:40What she's actually saying is when you are home, just be more present. And then that's the balance. And then what about these independent women who don't need men? Because, you know, they're self-sufficient. Who needs a man? There seems to be a lot of that energy around. But I find so funny, though. I see a lot of women saying that. But then the same women will say, I'm childless. I want to be childless by choice. But you don't want to have children. You hate men. What are you going to do for the rest of your life? And it's teaching women to just shortcut themselves into a spiral of loneliness.

13:09And loneliness is a punishment. Loneliness is the only thing that every country in the world puts people in prison to create loneliness as a form of punishment. Every country has always done that. So when you teach women that you don't need men and then you teach them that you can be childless by choice, who are they going to be left with? They don't want men and they don't want children. What are you going to do for the rest of your life? So it's that short-term thinking to feel powerful and get the high of feeling powerful today without thinking the long-term consequences is you'll lose community and you need community so should a woman be independent and resourceful and be able to stand on her own two feet in this modern world or should she go and find a powerful ambitious man and look to serve and be a partner to him i've noticed a trend and i see this a lot in my clients i and i'm pakistani i grew up pakistani my parents were very much like if you're not married by 30 you're never going to get married so you've got to get married by 30 um and unfortunately what i do see is if people are not married by 32 33 years old it it's a lot harder and the reason it gets harder is it harder though it is harder and it seems to be for women or men for women and men i would say for both i actually would say for both and the reason i say that is people think is i feel like that's um a fear-based projection and not a reality because surely if you work on yourself and make yourself an attractive person which there's many ways to do that does it matter how old you are I'll tell you why it does matter and I say this as somebody who got married later right and I say this with no judgment because I did it yeah yeah so I did this later in life but I would still say that what happens is what people think marriage is about finding this magical person getting this great connection and then staying together forever.

14:56What they don't realize, marriage is actually a skill. And that skill means that from a very young age, you kind of are okay with monotony. You're okay with being with one person for the rest of your life. You're kind of the person that doesn't need too much stimulation, doesn't need too much pleasure, doesn't need too much novelty. You're okay with kind of dependency and not novelty seeking. Those skills are important from marriage. Now, as you get older, you learn the opposite. You learn that you live an independent life. You don't actually need other, you don't need dependency in any way, shape or form.

15:29And you usually have gone through a couple of heartbreaks and relationships. So you've practiced different skills. You haven't practiced that skill of just one, because look, if you go back to Peterborough, if I go back to London, I will see couples that have been together since high school. The thing that kept them together was not love. They don't love each other. And a lot of the time they can't even stand each other what kept them together is they don't seek novelty they they live in the same place that they always live they have the same restaurant that they go to same pub that they go to they are the type of people that don't like change as you grow you're not selling marriage i know but that's the opposite of what all the romance movies yeah but um and then what happens when you are so independent for so long you get used to the idea of novelty you get used to the whether you have new people texting, new people calling, breaking up with people, you get used to a different kind of behaviour.

16:20So the skill set breaks down. And so people think it's about finding the right person, but it's actually about developing the right skills. And the right person is irrelevant, really. It's a skill set. And the skill set starts to deter with age and experience. Does it, though? I think so. But can't you, with age and wisdom, develop those skills? You can. In business, you need the same, you need patience, you need to be okay with most things being boring, doing hard things, waiting a long time. With property, I was telling you about before, you have to wait a long time for property to go up. You can't chase newness and excitement in property.

17:00You buy it and you wait a long time. And those skills can be learned through age. In fact, you probably don't have those skills when you're young. You develop those with age. So can't we develop the marriage skills with age? You can develop them, but you're more likely to develop. You can, but you're just more likely to develop more independent skills. You're just more likely to develop. It doesn't mean you won't. It's just that you're more likely to develop the skills of, okay, if I have a heartbreak, I can just get over this person. Or if I can't find someone, no problem, I'll just go travel with my friends.

17:28Or if I can't, you find solutions to your problems faster. And so you become a problem solver, whereas part of marriage is being dependent with your problem solving rather than independent problem solving. So it can work in both ways. It's just, I have, and a lot of people think that they can wait forever. It's very rare you go to weddings and the bride and groom are in their 40s. It happens, but it's harder than when they are in their early 30s or late 20s. It's rarer. Okay. So do you think in 50 years, marriage will be an outdated concept? It feels like it's dying out. It does feel like it's dying out.

18:05But at the moment, this seems like women will always want to be married. even if they don't like what marriage involves, there's something about being married that they just all want. Is that the fantasy? That's the fantasy. And particularly with this TikTok generation and like, you know, how they're kind of romantic, they're kind of reviving the desire for marriage again. But one thing I always ask people, particularly because I have a faith, so I'm Muslim, so marriage is essential. But if I wasn't of a faith, I would wonder why choose to get married. I'm always curious why people without God in their life want to get married because what is actually the glue holding you guys together?

18:39And if it's love, love we know is going to go up and down. Marriage isn't about love. It's a commitment to something. So either to each other or to God or whatever it is. But if it's to each other, then that commitment is going to be based on love. But we know love is going to go down. So I'm always curious, why do people get married if they're not religious? What's the reason for it? You said marriage isn't about love and love's always going to go down. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people are going to disagree with that. But if that was true, why would they get divorced? because they don't love each other anymore so then love goes down and then marriage marriage becomes obsolete for those couples that got married for love okay so you don't get married for love well you get married well it depends what your background i mean why would you get married for someone that you don't love well you could get married for love is part of it but the bigger thing is maybe religious reasons family reasons create a home together create children together is to create an institution or yeah society to project on you that you must be married yeah or religion or whatever it is but then if you're not religious then the only reason to get married is love right i mean i think i probably would have always thought that yeah um i mean maybe some men get married because their fiance wants to be married as opposed to they want to be married and i do see that quite a lot with men when i ask them why did you get married they'll say i don't know they'll always say i don't know she wanted to but they don't know why they're getting married now if you don't know your why how can you commit to it yeah and something that always perturbs me is for many people women i see that the marriage is more about the wedding than it is about the man that they're marrying yeah i you know they want the perfect wedding what about the guy yeah and it's ticking and a lot of the time it is ticking off the mark not to say that's wrong or right it's what it's ticking it's ticking off the box to say that you got married and had the wedding and stuff like that and I completely understand it it's not to say it's wrong or right and usually the guy pays for it and so the longevity will just depend on your why the getting married everyone can do because they're married they're in love or whatever it is longevity will depend on your why and the the real and the real reason why marriage is last is a lot less romantic than what people think it is it's a lot to do with don't like change, don't want to start again, don't have alternatives, have a real lack of alternatives.

20:59That's usually the core behind a lot of marriages that do last. But people like to think it's love, but it's actually more practical than that. Right. Or maybe fear of splitting up. Fear of splitting up, fear of starting again, fear of not having anybody else in your life. There's a lot of fear that goes involved with it. So just knowing the why behind it will give you a more practical approach to the longevity of your marriage who cheats more men or women i would say that it's very equal but i know who hides it more which is women yeah they're just better at it women are far better they're far better at cheating because they are men are a lot more naive than women are so women will if you if we see you following a bunch of girls on instagram if we see you liking pictures we can predict the next steps that's going to come from that because we've experienced that.

21:46We know what happens when a man starts liking our pictures and starts sliding in our DMs. So we can predict the next steps. What happens with men is because they face a lot of rejection from women, they assume that when a man, she's like talking to a man, maybe it didn't go to the next step. Maybe it didn't go there. Maybe it didn't. So they like to believe that it didn't go as far as they think. So that's the first thing. They're quite naive about where women and how women behave. The other thing is that men are just a bit sloppier with it they really are a bit sloughy whereas women will know because they're suspicious they know how to hide the suspicions a lot better so i think women are just a lot better at it as well and whereas men might sometimes admit that they've cheated they might tell their friends they might tell a new partner i cheated on my ex i shouldn't women you'll never get an admission literally never even with their best friends they won't tell you that they're cheating on their husband there's something about the admission that means that they should feel guilty and they don't want to feel the guilt so they just think if they don't admit it they won't feel guilty and it's not all women but my I even when I do have female clients in my therapy sessions that are cheating zero guilt and the reason they feel zero zero guilt is because they usually have lost love for their husband by the time they are cheating or they usually have more attachment to the other person so they don't feel guilty because they feel like they're in love they care about the other person or they don't care about the original person so the moral obligation is only to the person that you're most attracted to or interested to in so they don't feel any guilt whereas men might still feel a bit of guilt because they know what's like you know she's going to kill me or she's going to probably take the kids from me or she's going to do something whereas women are like but I don't love him so why would I feel guilty about cheating on him wow so you think men and women might cheat equally equally yeah I would say women get away with it a lot more but generally equally and it really just depends on the couple itself I would say the person with the the least alternatives is probably the more loyal one the one with the most alternatives is probably more likely so you're You're saying there isn't really any loyalty.

23:39You're just saying that loyalty is options. Well, loyalty, I would say, is upbringing. I would say a lot of it is to do with upbringing. A lot of it is options make papers are up. Yeah, but you just said the person with the most options is more likely to cheat. I would say that when you are dating somebody with significantly more options than you, you have to accept that there might be a chance that they're going to be more disloyal. I think that's just common sense. If somebody is dating a celebrity, if I'm going to be married to David Beckham, I have to accept that David Beckham is going to have more alternatives than me.

24:10Chances of him being faithful are less than if I choose somebody who has a similar level of alternatives to me. Wow. Do you think more people cheat than the statistics tell us? Yeah. Like, if you were to guess in marriages what percentage of people, men or women, have cheated, what would you guess it as? Depending on the culture and the background, but I would say, like, if I'm taking an average couple in England, I would say that I would say about 70 % would have done something that the partner would consider unfaithful. So two in three. Yeah, I would say something like that. But nowadays it's getting more like they might do it together.

24:45I see lots of apps where couples are meeting other couples and they're kind of like open to it. And because there's such a push for women, you know, to be a bit more promiscuous, it's now become a conversation where you can invite other people in or do stuff like that. So I think now what's happening is cheating has progressed into openness, which is a little bit concerning. Wow. So what are the three main reasons people get cheated on? For men or for, well, I would say both. Let's do men and then women. I can even say for both. The number one reason why people get cheated on is they're super naive.

25:21Eve. One thing that kind of creates almost a recipe for cheating is when you pick somebody and you believe their words rather than their actions. So I'll have people that, you know, wives come home at like 4 a.m. She doesn't answer her phone for hours or husband has, you know, got some suspicious text messages and the mind will say, but she said she was here, but she said, but she said, but she never said, but she said. They don't look at behaviors. Now, Now, when you monitor people's behaviors, you'll know that are they kind of like the type of person that's just exclusive and respectful? Are they the type of person who's just like a bit more likely to just do what's best for them?

25:58Now, if you look at people's behaviors, it's unlikely you'll get blindsided by a cheater. But every time somebody comes to me and says they've been cheated on, I was like, but what were the behaviors? What were the steps? And they're like, oh, well, we stopped sleeping together. And oh, she started randomly buying new lingerie. Or oh, he started doing a lot more nights like away for work. So there were steps that they were a bit too naive about. And I know it sounds like I'm suggesting that you should be suspicious. I'm not saying you should be suspicious, but every time there's a shift in people's behavior and you don't question it and you don't ask the right questions, people are going to think that they can take advantage of your naivety.

26:33So are you saying if you get cheated on, it's your fault? Yeah, pretty much. So it's not the fault of the person cheating, it's your fault? No, because cheaters select people who are naive. Cheaters don't check. Most people who are compulsive cheaters, they stay away from somebody who's going to put a lot of boundaries on them, who's going to say, look, I don't really like you talking to an ex-partner, or I don't like you going getting drunk without me and coming home at 4 a.m. I don't like that behavior. So cheaters will remove themselves from people with boundaries. They just do because they can spot somebody who's got boundaries and self-esteem from a mile away and think, if I start coming home or not telling them where I am or switching my phone off and partying all night, they'll probably leave me.

27:15So why would I want to be with that person? So cheaters have a selection process. And their selection process is your lack of boundaries. So they select people like that. Now, if you are the type of person that kind of just permits everything and anything, you have to accept that you're going to filter out women that like boundaries. You're going to filter out women that like, you know, some respectful behavior, you're going to filter those out and be left with people who don't want to abide by relationship rules. Wow. What about relationships that have lasted a long time and then this happens, where maybe there wasn't the conscious thought when they started?

27:51Because the world's changed a lot in the last 10 or 20 years, maybe more. So there's these people who are in these long marriages where it was pretty innocent 20 years ago. Like there wasn't any social media. You probably met someone in your local town, dated them. I mean, you know, I haven't dated forever, but when I dated, it was like, she's in the gym or she's in the bar. And I've got to have a sip of my drink and breathe in and I've got to go and talk to her. Worried about, you know, hard rejection, like in person. So could you argue that you haven't had conversations, you haven't dealt with issues and you've let things build up?

28:35and then someone's at the point where they're disconnected. Yeah. Does it happen like that? That happens when there's a lack of intimacy, both physical and emotional. So what happens in those marriages is some people just are not honest with each other. When there's a lack of intimacy, they kind of just accept it, but really they're craving a bit more. Or when they don't like the intimacy, they won't say it because they're not open enough with each other. They're so worried about hurting each other's feelings that they bottle it up, but they hurt each other's feelings in the long run by potentially having affairs.

29:06So what I notice is that there's a lot of people who are like, okay, she gained a bit of weight or he's not doing what I like intimately. I try telling him, but he's so sensitive or I didn't want to hurt their feelings. But in their desperate attempt not to hurt them, they end up living a double life. And that's actually worse. So I actually recommend having as much honest and blunt conversations as you can, both about intimacy, both emotional and physical, to prevent those behaviors happening. And then if you do find yourself still wanting somebody else, you can have an honest conversation, think maybe we're not aligned anymore, maybe I can meet somebody else, but it doesn't have to go down the cheating path if you have a lot of connection in the relationship.

29:42Who's more narcissistic, men or women, and why? Women are more narcissistic. They're considerably more narcissistic. Let's see the comments go. Women are more narcissistic. We've created a generation of narcissistic women, and we've really done that, and we've created narcissistic women and passive men, and that's the culture we've created. And how we've created that is the rise of feminism and the rise of social media has really created a narcissism in women. Because what feminism has taught women is that you, men are the enemy, you don't owe them anything. You don't owe them respect, loyalty, love, dedication, acts of service.

30:16You don't owe them that. But at the same time, they should still pick up the bill. At the same time, if he doesn't pay for everything, then he's not a man. At the same time, he should accept everything you want to do whenever you want to do it. But you don't have to accept everything he does. and then combine that with social media where beautiful women in particular even if you're not that beautiful but beautiful women in general what they can do is post pictures online whenever they want and be inundated with alternatives as much as they want but at the same time their partners can't really do that because women don't really you know slide into dms and men's as much but similarly if they did catch their partner liking pictures or posting things they would be the first to like pull him up on it so i think what's happened is they've got a culture where they don't have to serve or respect or love men but at the same time they can do whatever they want and men should still be traditional and still be masculine the expectations of the men are still there so I think it's not entirely their fault but what's happened is they have created that mindset without realizing both social media and feminism but the weirdest thing is they'll always always say my ex is a narcissist he's a narcissist he's a narcissist because they think anybody with with any kind of bad behaviors narcissistic but often they also we and i say they but me everybody we're also we also are you know just as bad yeah i mean narcissism is this label most people don't even know who narcissist was it's a common weaponized term uh it i see people on social media using that language all the time and i have a quick look at them and i think well you are the very thing that you're calling everyone out.

31:52Yeah, I have a golden rule. Whenever somebody uses the word narcissist, I know they are one. But they've used their narcissism to play victim. Narcissism and victimhood are almost identical personality traits. Just how narcissists like attention by having lots of adoration and having a lot of admirers. Victims love having sympathy. They thrive on people's sympathy. They thrive on having no accountability. But it takes the same level of narcissism to have both. So anytime I meet somebody who's like, this is a narcissist, that's a narcissist, I'm like, you're telling me you're the narcissist, essentially.

32:23Because victimhood is just as embarrassing. So has modern dating broken down? To be fair, I don't actually know because I haven't been in the scene for years. But I would imagine that it is just you're competing with people you can't compete with. That's what's happening is we're competing with people's algorithms now. so before you might have to you know be a bit prettier than the girls in his workplace and to get somebody's attention or the guy might have to be a bit stronger than the other guys in the gym and that would be like a relatively easy competition nowadays you have to beat the algorithm and the algorithm is going to bombard women with luxury items amazing holidays proposals and rings and all these things and men are having to compete with that and then women are having to compete with you know all these beautiful women with perfect bodies tan toned AI everything They're going to have to compete with that.

Read the full transcript

33:12So we've kind of polluted both young women's minds with such expectations that it becomes difficult to have a healthy relationship. Surely the solution, though, is to just reject all that and just be yourself. Is that not how the law of attraction works? Just be yourself. I think it's easier for us because we didn't grow up with TikTok on our phone. By the time I got on TikTok, I was like 30 or something. So I was like, by that time, it can't really affect you. But whereas these young generation are like, you know, they're 14, 15 years old and that's all they know. Yeah. But like you also said, they can listen to podcasts and listen to influencers who've got some experience.

33:51And whilst they might be in that culture, they're also able to learn a better way. They are. They are able to learn a better way. But the slightly younger one, the Gen Z, they actually they're too young to grasp the concepts of these kind of educated podcasts and they're not going to have the attention span for it. So the people of the right age can kind of balance themselves out, but slightly younger, they're going to find it very difficult to balance that. A big thank you to my sponsor Coinbase, a leading online cryptocurrency platform for buying, selling, trading, storing, and staking cryptocurrency.

34:22I've said it before, but the system is broken. The banks, the politicians, the financial system, they're playing a game and we are the pawns. So what can you do? Well, you take proactive steps to regain control. And from me, I'm investing in many decentralized assets such as Bitcoin. Now, I recommend you do it properly through the only publicly listed global crypto exchange. And that's why I use Coinbase. Now, this isn't a get rich quick thing. You need to do your research. But Coinbase makes that simpler as it gives you access to over 260 cryptocurrencies. From the established cryptos like Bitcoin and Ethereum to the emerging assets and even stable coins, which are designed to be pegged and redeemable one-to-one to fiat currency like USDC.

35:06With Coinbase One, pay zero trading fees on trades up to£10 ,000 a month. If you're thinking about investing in crypto for the first time, Coinbase is publicly traded and listed on NASDAQ with transparency that you can trust. So if you're ready to take back control of your personal finances, then click the link in the description and sign up for Coinbase today. Now, remember, do not invest unless you're prepared to lose all the money you invest. This is a high risk investment and you should not expect to be protected if something goes wrong. This is not investment advice and it is not recommendation to buy or sell any particular digital asset.

35:42And what about dating in Dubai? How's that? Oh, I've heard horror stories. I've actually, you know, I work with a lot of clients in Dubai. But I would say Dubai is the one city where women are outshining men in every regard when it comes to promiscuity and when it comes to, you know, cheating and all those things. It's definitely a lot of people see Dubai as a man's kind of city and they get to be with all these women. But the women are 20 steps ahead of men. And the key reason why women are so ahead of men when it comes to dating in Dubai is because Dubai attracts women from different cultures, beautiful women from different cultures, particularly Eastern European, North African.

36:17It attracts that. Now, the thing with Dubai, what women have done in Dubai that doesn't occur everywhere is they are not bothered by how attracted they are to a man. They are able to be married or in relationships with a man that they're not attracted to simply because he gives her a lifestyle. Now, anytime a woman can forego attraction and just be with a man because he provides her with something, she has a very male mindset to sex and promiscuity because most women, you have to get them attracted to you. That's the hard part, getting them attracted to you. then you know once she's attracted to you she usually becomes really loyal because she's so attracted to you and she can't really be attracted to other men but Dubai attracts women who don't care what you look like as long as you give them a lifestyle so there's no without attraction there's no loyalty so what will happen if another man can provide a better lifestyle he's he's replaced immediately or if he's even if he's not replaced if she does meet a man that she's attracted to she can use that guy while still having the perks of being with the man that she's not attracted to Wow.

37:12So you're saying that no matter how successful you are in Dubai, a woman is likely to exchange you for a more successful guy. The more successful you are, the more likely she is to exchange you for a successful guy in Dubai because you're going to attract a certain type of woman. And the type of woman you're going to attract is usually women that are not truly attracted to you, not actually in loyalty, but they're looking for a lifestyle. Whereas the less successful you are, and the more likely you are to get a woman when you're less successful, the more likely she's to be loyal because the key of why she's chosen you is her attraction to you just you as a person might be physical or whatever but as you get more and more successful the core behind why she's choosing you could be diluted by the finances and the more diluted it is the attraction the less loyalty there is but surely there's a really easy way to filter out these people you would think so but there's not i've got one which is when the bill comes you do this i know but then that's what you do the first date the bill comes you sit there and like i'm not saying as a guy you're not going to pay the bill yeah but you're looking for the reaction but the thing is so here's the thing here's the difference for dubai some girls just don't pay for bills because the culture is muslim so the men pay for everything anyway so the bill isn't the thing that actually filters them out that might work a little bit more in london but in dubai because men you You can actually sit there having dinner and somebody will pay your bill that you've never seen in the restaurant because it's a Muslim culture.

38:40Men pay for everything. But the real stretch is what they do for a living. And in Dubai is one of the most expensive cities in the world. It's super expensive. And even if you make good money, you'll still be like, wow, this city is really expensive. You'll meet girls that are from the middle of nowhere, like Kazakhstan or like from a village in Russia. And they live with a G-Wagon and like in a high rise with no job. And the men don't wonder where this is coming from. They don't question it. So it's what they do for a living is the real question you want to ask. And if it's not a clear answer, there's usually a man behind it.

39:12Right. OK. So entrepreneurship. Yeah. Is it different or difficult for entrepreneurial people or go getters, you know, or people who want to be very successful and run their own business? Is it is dating and relationships different or more difficult for them? It's a lot more difficult for a couple of reasons. The first reason why it's more difficult is obviously the time. They don't have the time to properly vet a woman, really get to know her, invest in her. They don't have that same kind of time frame that the average man would have. The second thing that I find is a bigger problem in the long run is because they're busy and because they're successful, they kind of make their wife's life a lot easier.

39:47Sometimes they'll be like, there's a cook, there's a maid, there's something. Or they solve all her problems for her. The problem then becomes there's a resentment because what ends up happening is he does more and more, but he feels less and less appreciated because he's doing more. He's like, I'm providing this for you. You've got this house. We go on holidays. You don't have to pay for anything. Your kids are in business. What's the problem? So what ends up happening is the balance tips because he does more and more. She doesn't have to do more because she doesn't have to cook. She doesn't have to clean.

40:15She gets used to that. She gets used to that. So what ends up happening is one person has to hustle for that lifestyle and work really hard. The other person just has to wake up in the morning and they get the exact same lifestyle. So resentment starts to build up. And that's where the relationship starts to suffer a little bit. Right. And is the resentment from the main breadwinner, could be a woman, but probably more likely a man, or is the resentment from the person who's being supported who takes it all for granted and therefore just naturally expects more? Yeah, it's on both ends. Weirdly, it's on both ends.

40:46What ends up happening is the breadwinner starts to get more and more resentful over time. but then the person who is getting everything kind of easy, they actually build resentment as well. And the reason they build resentment is because their life isn't as, because they haven't solved their own problems in their life. They haven't actually pushed themselves, exerted themselves. They start to feel a bit more and more depressed because our brain is actually not designed to be happy all the time and have it easy. Our brain is designed to problem solve. And when women have it so easy, men or women have it so easy and everything's just given to them on a plate, they will still find problems to solve so they'll make problems they'll say you didn't come home on time or you didn't this or the hotel room is not the brain brain is designed to find problems so they end up becoming more depressed and lonely and isolated then because they're not achieving as much by themselves so it kind of can be difficult this is not to make it sound like it's always bad sometimes it's beautiful but usually it works best when the woman has really achieved in her own career before and really has a lot of skills and she's done all of that stuff but she's ready to now just relax and look after the family.

41:48But when she's never achieved anything, you've just thrown her into this really lucky lifestyle, she can start to develop a little bit of depression. Right. That being said, I mean, raising children, I mean, that's hard. There's a lot of problem solving that goes on there. Yeah, but again, when you're really successful, you can provide a lot of nannies and you can provide help with that as well. So there's lots of problem solving with that. But one thing that happens with housewives in this day and age that probably didn't happen many years ago, is that before housewives would kind of have to cook from scratch and kind of had a community, there would be other housewives, they would have something that keeps them going.

42:25Now there's not that big of a community. Most women work, so they can't really just pick up a friend and say, do you want to take the kids to the park? They don't really have that community. And the second thing is now they've got social media, so they spend a lot of their downtime scrolling rather than connecting, and it can feel very lonely then. If you've just got kids and then scrolling, kids and scrolling, it's quite depressing. So I think it's not as healthy as it used to be, being in the housewife. People talk about nannies and house help and everything else, but I think that can be really bad.

42:57Why do you not like it? Well, surely the one thing you shouldn't outsource in life is parenting. I know. If you think about it, your kids are asleep for, well, my son's asleep for 11 hours a day at the moment because he's 14. so the kids are asleep for let's say eight hours they're at school five days a week for eight hours what and then you're gonna get a nanny and a load of help you as a parent have got the smallest amount of um raising and um impact on them like no yeah i think it's really bad i i agree i do think that children need their parents because they need to pick up the same skills what happens when you outsource nannies is children will behave in a way that you that's not you or your husband because they're picking it up from the nanny which is not bad or good but it's just you don't recognize the behavior but i would say that when i've kind of changed my mind a little bit from living in an expat country because i live in dubai um that i can see when you don't have family and you don't have your grandma and you don't have your grandparents you don't have uncles and aunts that you can kind of help you i can understand why they get a bit exhausted and think okay i just need some extra pair of hands the problem becomes when those extra pair of hands are doing the nurturing i can understand if they're just cleaning the house or maybe making sure that the bottles are warmed up or whatever but when they're doing the nurturing and they're spending more time with your children than you are the children do suffer okay so apparently i saw a statistic that 10 % of women aged 18 to 23 have an only fans account number one yeah do you think that stat is accurate number two that is shocking surely 10 % i think it might be western women but i think it's in in America 10 % 10 % of 18 to 23 year old women have an OnlyFans what the fuck but to me that speaks more to what men are pursuing rather than what because what I would say is if every OnlyFans creator was only making like$500 a year there would be no industry but even though so you're blaming men I am I am 100 % blaming men for it because there are probably 100 ,000 content creators i don't know but you blamed feminism earlier for for only fans i think that was for making them narcissistic yeah for making them narcissistic but i would say for feminism definitely makes women narcissistic but only fans is a consequence of men being disturbed and i would say genuinely disturbed and the reason i say that is because there would be not a single 18 to 23 year old on only fans if there wasn't a market for it and the fact that there are a hundred thousand and maybe content creators, but there are about 500 million subscribers.

45:36Now, nobody joins a job where nobody's paying. Nobody goes and volunteers to be an OnlyFans. They do it because they see women, 22 years old, I see sometimes some OnlyFans creators, 22 years old buying a five-bedroom house with a pool, or 23 years old and getting a G-Wangan. But where's the self-respect for the woman doing that? Or just showing the world their naked body and whatever else? I always say that no matter how bad a woman is, the person paying to see that is always more of the scum. She can be always, like, she might be a piece of shit, but you're paying to see that piece of shit. But I never said these words, by the way.

46:11Yeah, you're paying. So it's like, because look, even when Ted Bundy, Ted Bundy, the serial killer, he was doing, like, his court case, and he proposed to one of the jury members, and she said yes. She's more of a piece of shit than he is. And the reason being is you're seeing all of this, and you're rewarding it. You're seeing it and rewarding it. Now, bad behavior can only flourish in a society where people reward it. Now, the men that are paying, the statistics on the men paying are considerably older. They're like in their 40s onwards. They're usually married. And what content creators are doing...

46:44So you've blamed men, but if men were happy in their marriages, maybe they wouldn't be doing that. Well, I think if they were masculine men, they will always be happy in their marriages because they pick good. Masculine men, the reason... You can pick good and things can change over time. But then you can leave in those moments rather than become an OnlyFans subscriber. So you get married and then you just leave when things get hard? Well, you don't have to get married. No one's asking you to get married. The reason why the men that subscribe to OnlyFans, the ones that are, the married ones are there, is because they're usually these dorky, passive men that just got married because their wife told them to, don't have the guts to tell their wife that they, you know, are not attracted to her anymore or are not a man that she's attracted to so they have no intimacy.

47:23They're usually weaker men. that you won't find really strong, masculine, healthy men all night subscribing on OnlyFans. It's an impossibility. So what's happening is these women are preying on these really, you know, submissive, weak men. But the fact that they're making so much money means the submissive, weak men are the predominant cohort at the moment. So I would always say, look, I come from Pakistan and I come from a very strict kind of culture. Now, the reason why OnlyFans doesn't exist in Pakistan is because there's no market for it. If a woman was to kind of be naked online, I'm not saying this is good, but she would be threatened.

48:03Her family would be threatened. She would never be allowed to be put on that because the men don't reward that behavior. I'm not saying they're perfect, but they don't reward that behavior. So there won't be a market for it. She'd have to go to America and the men will reward it. And then the women become like this. So wherever we see women losing their femininity, wherever we see women losing their morals, we always ask the question, where's your father? Where's the dad? Even when you see strippers and you're like, I wonder what her dad thinks. Because we all recognize behind a promiscuous woman is a man that didn't do his job correctly.

48:35So whenever men don't do their job correctly, we create a society of women who are capitalizing on these weak men. Wow. Do you think in Pakistan you could get away with having an OnlyFans? Well, I mean, you're from Pakistan, I'm from Peterborough. You have to come, you have to come and see, but it would be an impossibility. It wouldn't even happen. But what's interesting is you threaded it back and blamed the fathers. So as you know, Andrew was on my show, Andrew Tate recently and with Bonnie Blue. And Andrew Tate blamed people like Bonnie Blue and OnlyFans on feminism. So you're tracking it back to the fathers, not raising the daughters and sons properly.

49:19And he's tracking it back to feminism and being independent and powerful. And, you know, you don't need men and emasculating. I would always trace it back to fathers. And the reason I say this is women have to experience being daughters before they can experience being wives. And what I mean by that is every woman needs to have the experience of an older man, her father, who chooses to pour into her, like provide for her, look after her, protect her, make sure her brother doesn't hit her, make sure that nobody, other man ever touches her, drop her to school, pick her up from school. That's what a woman has to experience.

49:53She has to experience being a daughter first, that protective man that's like anxious when you leave the house up until you get in the door until he hears, and I have this experience with my father to this day, when I'm staying in his house, until he hears the key and I'm home, he won't go to bed ever. Now, when you experience that as a woman, you know to trust men, you know to love men, because they've given you that experience. Then what ends up happening is you know how to love men back because you've experienced it. So then you become a wife and you think men are actually loving, caring, and they do a lot for you.

50:22You pull back into them. So once you've experienced being a daughter, you can then be a wife. Now, you can't skip that step. So what will happen with women that don't have fathers is they'll either date really older men and they kind of fetishize. Yeah, they fetishize old men. So they'll be like 15 years old and having a crush on, I don't know, an old man that they see on TV, maybe like a Simon Cowell or something like that. They'll have a crush on an old man because they didn't get that father figure. Or what they'll do is compensate for that lack of father figure by seeking validation from several men at the same time, but not loving them.

50:55Now, you have to experience being loved by a man in the form of a daughter first before you can go on to love them as a wife. It just, you can't skip that step. So the reason I always will bring everything back down to men is feminism doesn't run in Kashmir, where I'm from, in Pakistan. It doesn't run. Why? Because the men are so strong in their household. What's happened in the Western world is the men allow the women to become the fathers. The men are more passive. The men let women and their daughters do whatever they want and they say, as long as you're happy, as long as you're happy. They don't say, I don't care if you're happy.

51:27You need to do what's good for you. Fuck your happiness. What's good for you? They don't say that. So without that experience, they can't train women to trust and respect men. Wow. What are the top three reasons relationships fail? I would say the first one is selecting poorly. The first and foremost is a poor selection and why that, anytime you speak to somebody who's going through a divorce, they'll always say to you, oh in the beginning or before we got married, this did happen, that did happen. So the main reason is you're the type of person that sees all the red flags and thinks that if you love her or him enough, you'll get through it.

52:04Sometimes you have to understand that you can love them, You might get married, but that red flag's not going anywhere. So just accept it. And your relationship will only work if you can accept the red flags that you saw in the beginning. If you can't accept them, at some point you won't be able to accept it any longer. So I would say selection is the main reason. And then the second or third? Second reason, I would say, is having a lack of appreciation. And that's becoming a lot more common because we are hijacked by algorithms. But not appreciating what your partner does for you then breeds resentment and anger.

52:35So it also reduces your connection and your intimacy. So if you genuinely see everything that your partner does in negative light and you can't be grateful for the good things that they do, you will always find yourself disconnected to them. So I think a lack of appreciation. And the final thing I would say is keeping alternatives open. People who stay together quite some time, they find it easy to be monogamous. They find it easy to ward off alternatives. That's not difficult for them. What's really difficult is people who have never been monogamous, who've always been tempted by other people, then choose to get married.

53:08Marriage is for monogamous people. It's not for people who find monogamy difficult. If you find monogamy difficult, no problem, but just don't be married. It's probably not for you. But if you're the type of person who naturally finds it easy to be faithful, go ahead and get married. You won't find it too difficult. Are you kind of like a modern-day pick-up artist coach? Do you think I am? Well, I'm asking you. I would say I'm the modern day masculinity coach. I know lots of men are like, oh, what can women tell you about masculinity? What can women ever know about masculinity? The reason we know is because we know what we respond to and we know what we don't respond to.

53:42And the only thing women respond to is masculinity, nothing else. I'll meet men that go to therapy and I'll have a couple and he'll say, you know, she doesn't respect me and she dismisses my feelings and my feelings are valid and blah, blah. And I said, look, the only thing, and I've gone to therapy and I've done work to myself and he talks like this. I said, look, the only thing women respect is masculinity. Nothing else. You can be a therapist in the making. You can be a billionaire. But if you're not masculine in either of those areas, if you're like, you know, if you're like a Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg, you might be a billionaire.

54:14But if you're not masculine enough, you won't have enough sex appeal to keep her interested in you. And I think that's what men forget, that it's the only thing women respond to is masculinity. And what is masculinity? The ability to provide, protect, and have children. That's it. Be a responsible man. That's all it really is. It doesn't involve writing poems and going to therapy for hours on end and all of this nonsense. It's just, are you providing? Are you protecting? Are you procreating? Beyond that, it also just means being less emotional and more logical. I know people are telling you, you need to be emotional, you need to be sensitive.

54:46Now, the truth is women don't respond well to men who are sensitive. They don't respond to men who know all their problems. They respond to men who can solve all their own problems. So the more of a problem solver you are and the more masculine you are, you'll be fine. What do you think? I mean, you would know what women want more than I do because I'm not a woman. And also you're a therapist, so I guess you've had many men as clients. So you would know that part. I suppose in terms of being a man and what masculinity is because that's a hot topic right now and I think there's all these people who call themselves alpha and sigma males.

55:28I just don't think that's what masculinity is. I think we've got to get rid of all this bravado. I definitely think someone who can solve problems for someone. Like if you're the leader of a company and you're very good at solving problems, you're going to attract good staff. So I definitely think I'm a very good problem solver. I agree that it's quite feminine to wallow in and go through and bathe in all your emotions. And I think that that's a feminine trait. Yeah. Not a masculine trait. Yeah. And, you know, my son's 14 and I'm now seriously thinking, do I have to teach him how to fight and defend himself where it used to be safe in Peterborough?

56:12And now outside a shopping centre, the biggest shopping centre in Peterborough in broad daylight, you've got teenagers stamping on other teenagers' heads. Awful. And, you know, you go to London, you wear a nice watch, you could get stabbed and murdered for that. So I think, yeah, as a dad teaching your children to look after themselves. You talk a lot about, people talk a lot about, you know, how you teach a child. For me, I think it's just preparing them for how the world is. Yeah, and I think that's the main thing. A lot of will teach you that you just have to give them unconditional love. Lots of unconditional love.

56:54Lots of unconditional love. You've got to, you know, validate their feelings. And then, you know, then they'll feel loved. And as long as they feel loved, it's all good. The real world's not going to love you. The real world is probably going to hate you. So you give them love. Absolutely, you give them love. But the key is, like, again, I know I bring it back down to my culture a lot. But one thing I would say that I hated growing up, and I think I see it in Chinese families and Indian parents and Pakistani as well. they don't really care about like you becoming happy all they care about is get married have children be successful at you with education those three things and they've instilled that in you now western world will see that as narcissistic like you shouldn't do that you should just love them unconditionally but i think what that culture understood is by getting married having kids and focusing on your education and work a byproduct of that is you'll be happy a successful life is a happy life.

57:43But what the modern way of teaching you is a happy life first and then worry about success. But actually, happiness is an outcome of success. And they've got it the wrong way around. They don't want their kids to be successful anymore. They just want their kids to be happy, happy, love, love, love, love. They don't realize that children actually thrive when they are problem solving, when they are exerting their maximum effort, when they're trying their absolute best rather than being unconditionally accepted for all their nonsense. So I actually think that we need to take away the unconditional love obsession and replace it with you unconditionally want what's best for them even if they hate you in the moment and even if they dislike your parenting you know what's best for them and you encourage them to achieve that rather than just love them through every poor behavior that they might have which is why i see so many kids like confused with their gender confused with this and with their sexuality and it's because they have parents that will be like whatever you want whatever makes you happy kids don't even know what they want for dinner they don't even know if you take them to a restaurant with a big menu They don't know what to choose.

58:40So you're telling them you can choose your gender, you can choose who you be with, you can choose, you can choose, you can choose. Kids are not equipped for that. The whole point of having a parent is to help you filter out the bad decisions, to make better, streamline you to better ones because they've got the experience. So I think that that's one of the problems I'm seeing a lot with parenting. Yeah. So as a therapist specialising in masculinity, what is making men the most depressed? Their poor decision making. Always, always, always. is every time you are a man and you have any form of depression, it's usually just a couple of things.

59:13Number one thing is you're a poor decision maker. You take too long to make decisions or you make the bad decisions. You don't have a trust in your judgment. And why you don't have a trust in judgment is the second problem is because you're not a problem solver. You have a bunch of problems in your life. You think about them. You worry about them. But instead of making an executive decision to solve those problems, you will just stay stuck. And as a result, you're always doubting your own decision making because you don't know how to solve your own problems. And then I think, say, the final thing that causes them depression is when they don't fulfill their potential in life.

59:44They might be really intelligent, but because they don't have courage, they don't go out and do something really useful in business. Or they might have a really great body, but because they don't want to work out and they lose it, it's when they don't fulfill their potential, they're not great problem solvers and they're not good decision makers. They want to believe it's this biological thing that makes them depressed and it's this, you know, his dad, my dad didn't come to my soccer game when I was 14 and now I'm depressed. If there's men in Gaza that are like picking up their children from rubble who have managed to survive and not go through depression, there's children in Africa that have to eat.

1:00:16And I know people are like, oh, but you shouldn't compare problems. But the reason they don't have depression is because they're too busy solving problems. They're too busy decision-making, problem-solving, fulfilling their potential survival. They're doing what their brain designed them to do. Because you're not fulfilling your potential and not decision-making and not problem-solving, you have the luxury of being depressed and sad. When sadness should be, where do you have time? If you're really being responsible, looking after kids, looking after your family, you shouldn't be able to have the time to be as depressed, which I know they're going to hate in the comments.

1:00:50They can hate all their life. It's interesting you said, you're basically saying depression is a behaviour. It's a behaviour. It's a behaviour. You do the right things, your brain will follow. You don't listen to your brain and your brain's going to tell you a bunch of nonsense. But you do the right thing. So if you're a man that's depressed, look at your work schedule. Are you working as hard as you should be? Have you fulfilled your potential in work? Have you fulfilled your potential with your body? Have you made the right decisions in your life? Have you spent correctly? Trace everything down to a decision.

1:01:20Change that decision. You won't have depression, I promise you. You can stay on antidepressants for the rest of your life because your doctor told you your dad was a narcissist. But that's not the truth. So as a therapist, what's the most shocking thing you've heard a client say to you? I, you know, I've kind of seen everything and I've heard everything, but what I do see, a comment, I don't even like talking about it, but what I do see with a lot of men, young boys, they'll come to me nowadays and they'll say, my first sexual experience was with another boy and I'm not, I'm straight. And I'm like, why was it with another boy?

1:01:52Oh, we were just watching porn at the same time and then just started practicing and stuff like that. And I think that shocks me quite a lot because I didn't know that was a thing, but I think, and that kind of comes more and more common now that it's so accessible. Now that it's so accessible and they're sharing it with each other and this, that and the other, kids are kids. They don't know what they're doing. So I think that's something, and I thought it was really weird and I thought like, okay, maybe this is just a one-off. Then I heard Kanye West talk about it and how his first experience was with his male cousin and it's because they were watching porn together.

1:02:21So I would say that the way porn seeps into men is like a poison seeping into your blood that is really slowly, slowly, slowly working its way until you're totally damaged and destroyed. And that's what pornography does, just a really slow version of it. Wow. Has anyone ever hurt you? Yeah, lots of people. I would say lots of people. I've been hurt by parents and siblings and partner. I think I get hurt. I do get hurt. But one thing with me, I forgive very quickly. I get over things very, very quickly. So I get hurt. But I'm very good at realizing that I also say hurtful things. I also do hurtful things.

1:02:56So I'm not an angel. So just how I want people to give me grace, I tend to give people grace. And I'm just happier when I forgive quicker. So I get her, but I forgive quite quickly. Do you forgive quickly? I think so. I mean, I think forgiveness is a bit arrogant in some ways, because who are we to forgive them? I think probably the only person that could forgive is a God-like person who's never sinned so if I like oh I forgive you that positions me as superior to you so there's that and also I think forgiveness is really just setting yourself free yeah like if you did something if you did something to hurt me um I might go but actually pretty quick I'd go well um if everything is my fault and everything is my responsibility how did I create it and what was in my behavior that created it and um you know you obviously did it for your reasons and you probably didn't do it to hurt me you know they're saying hurt people hurt people so even people who really are narcissists yeah they're not really hurting you they're they're trying to alleviate their own pain yeah so yeah really I just try and let go yeah I'm like that I don't hold grudges I don't have I genuinely don't think about people for that long enough to hold the grudge.

1:04:21So when people are like, I need an apology and I'm still upset they did this 10 years ago, whatever it is, you're going to be miserable. I can't be around people, but like the brain is not working fast enough to move on from bad experiences. So holding grudges and stuff, I don't really have the time or energy for. I don't care about you enough to still think about what you've done. Yeah. That being said, in a relationship, what's the most you've been hurt? What happened? I have actually been quite lucky. If I'm being honest, I've been quite... You're going to show us some of you. Something. I've been relatively lucky.

1:04:53I would say I'm relatively lucky. And the only reason I'm lucky... Never been cheated on? No. Never? Not that I know of. You never know. In life, you never actually know. But it's not that I know of. But what I would say is not because I'm someone special. It's just that I can spot the sign so early. So you'd have to be a fool to think you're going to get away with it. So it would be like, you know, like some people might be like, oh, she disappeared for a couple of hours. Or he didn't call me all day. And he called me 2 p.m. the next day. if you do that with someone like me I'm going to tell her about your house I'm going to destroy your house what are you going to do so like you can't really risk that behavior with somebody like me so it doesn't mean I'm perfect it just means that um I I filter out people who want to take those risks I would filter it out and because I don't do it either I've never cheated on anything so I don't do it either so it's kind of like I know the traits of a cheater and I know the traits of a non-cheater because I can spot them so quickly so there's no point trying so I've been quite lucky have you been hurt or cheated on um I think we've all been hurt um I remember my first girlfriend my first love I don't think I've ever told this story so my yeah I mean I was the fattest kid in my year from age like 11 to 13 oh so I didn't get attention from women and that's all I wanted because I was obviously going through puberty at that time and getting really interested in women and I never got it and I developed these people pleasing conflict avoiding behaviors and then I lost all the weight and then girls started to be interested in me, which I was not used to at all.

1:06:23And it was like I would never believe if a girl was interested in me because I was never used to it. And then, yeah, this girl who was like, whenever all the guys talked about the top three hottest girls in the year, the one I got with was always in the top three. And I got her and I was like, wow. And, you know, I was like I got with her when I was 14 and then turned 15. And then I went on holiday over my birthday. And then when I came back, my birthday card from her was, you know, on the doorstep. And of course, I was so excited to get the birthday card because back then there was no, I didn't have a phone, you know, any social media.

1:07:04So if you went on holiday for two weeks with your family, you didn't talk to your girlfriend for two weeks. So I couldn't wait to get back to her. And I opened the card, look, she used to write long love letters to me and all of this. And it said, to you, from me. And I immediately knew she'd got with someone else. Why did you know that? Because she would write me long, lovely letters and everything. You know your instinct. It was my first ever experience, my instinct. And I opened it and it said, to you, from me. And I called her up and I went, what's going on? Oh, that's smart of you. Well, I mean, I just knew.

1:07:37And yeah, she'd got with my best friend. That was my first experience. of and yeah and that really hurt I actually ended up going back with her again and and I stayed friends with him and to this day I don't know if that was weakness or if that was my first experience of letting that stuff go yeah I think it was probably a bit of weakness but um also good to let it go and anyway I ended up getting back with her but I think it was a brilliant lesson and so So, yeah. So none of that stuff's ever happened to you? No, I haven't been so dramatic. Come on. I have never been so dramatic. I wish it would because then I could have something.

1:08:16But the only thing is, it's just that I have a temper on me, a real temper. Have you ever been with like a married man? Never. Never in my life. Why would I go down that route? But you might not know. He might lie to you for three months and then you might find out. When you're young, men are not married when you're young. It's kind of like when you're a bit older, that might happen. But when you're young, that never really is happening. Sometimes things just happen. You're three, six, 12 months in and then you find out. Not with somebody like me. I'm a detective. I really am a detective. It doesn't make it easy or better.

1:08:47It's just that I know what I'm getting. Inspector Khan. That would be a good brand. That would be a good brand because I just know what I'm getting. So it's very difficult for somebody to lie to me or hide things from me. It's quite difficult. You can try it, but it would be at your own risk. It would be really at your own risk because it's just like I'm not a messy kind of person. I try not to be with a messy, if something's a messy person, a messy situation, no problem. It's just not what I would be bothered to get involved with. So I try and avoid messiness, but then again, you never know. So I always say that, I always say as far as I know, if I knew more, you never know.

1:09:22But I personally have never been in that situation where I've caught text messages or I've, you know, walked in on something. I've actually never seen that situation. But I would always... Maybe it'd make you, it'd give you more skills and knowledge and experience. It probably would. I really think I miss it because one of the things I do say, I always make it out like it's so easy to walk away from somebody who cheats on you. I kind of make it out like, oh, but why would you, you know, like if you've never been cheated on. And that's why I think that it's actually quite a diluted experience because if you've never experienced it, how do you know?

1:09:51And all of my friends that are like similar to me or say, yeah, you should never, you know, you can easily just leave. They've also not experienced it. So if you've experienced it, then I think it's probably a bit better to give advice. if I'm being honest, it's probably better to take it from somebody who's actually experienced it. But from watching people in that experience, I know that when you do forgive any behavior, chances are it happens again. So only forgive behaviors that you don't mind if they occur again. And so if I did forgive my husband for cheating, I would expect him at some point probably to do it again.

1:10:20I wouldn't be naive and think, oh, he's never going to do this again. It will never happen. I'm going to assume that at some stage it might happen again. And I have to be okay with that if I'm going to accept it. Okay. Three biggest relationship fails, firstly, from men. Two passive, non-dominant, and that means in every regard. One of the biggest mistakes that men make is that they're not dominant enough. And what that does is does two things. Firstly, you attract women who are dominating. If you are a passive man and you're not dominant, you're going to attract a very dominant woman who likes that, because the average woman quite likes a little bit of dominance.

1:10:58So when you're going to attract a very dominant woman, the problem with being with a dominant woman is that even though she likes that she can dominate you because she's a strong woman and she kind of needs like a passive puppy, she can't respect it. So she'll like it because it makes her life easier. You'll just do everything she tells you to do. She doesn't have to worry about you cheating. You make her life easier. But she loses the respect and then you also lose sex appeal to her. So it works, but it also doesn't lead to respect and it doesn't lead to chemistry. So I'd say the first thing is to not be dominant enough.

1:11:32The second mistake I would make is being too lustful. So when you attach to women solely on their appearance because you think that she's the best you're going to get or because she's so hot or whatever it is, solely on appearance and nothing else, then you're going to always suffer because you're always going to become submissive. Because of that, you see put her on a pedestal, you're going to automatically become submissive and then she's going to lose respect and love for you. And the final thing I would say, this is not for the passive man but this is more for the men that are a bit more narcissistic is not showing appreciation when you do have a good woman the third mistake i really see is when they do have a good woman who really treats them well is really loyal is just wants a good easy life and you take her for granted and she's the one because she's not materialistic you think oh i don't need to buy anything she doesn't care or because she doesn't ask for a lot you give her your bare minimum because she doesn't ask for a lot it's when you take advantage of the good woman is the final mistake I would say they make.

1:12:26Okay. And then the three big relationship fails from women. I would say the big, oh, it's a bit trickier for me to talk from the women's perspective because I'm probably thinking about myself. But I would say the first mistake that you make is you ignore the red flags. And you think that, you know, if he's been with lots of women or if he's got an addiction or if he doesn't work or he's got some kind of problem, you think that it will get better. You think it will get better. You almost have to pick a man thinking he might never change. He might never change. Some do, you get very lucky, they completely change, but majority might not.

1:12:57So you have to pick him knowing that if you married him tomorrow, would you be okay with the behaviors he shows today? And if the answer is yes, he's perfectly fine, no problem. But if you're thinking no, but then I'm hoping the addiction will stop or the cheating will stop or he'll finally get a job, it's not going to change. So I would say the first thing is probably ignoring those red flags. Second thing I would say is, this is more for the women that are a little bit, you know, very loyal and loving, investing in men way more than they invest in you. So because you like him and you love him you're giving him your everything even though he's giving you very little in return And the final thing I would say if you're a woman that's on the other end is when you do have a good man You replace him for a man.

1:13:35That's more exciting when you have a good man Maybe he's not the most exciting person in the world, but he's a good man He treats you well and then you see this you know sexy Guy at the club or you meet this personal trainer that you have a crush on letting go of that good man for that toxic kind of man is another mistake that women make okay so we've got a little quick fire round now for the last few um would you rather date a bad boy or a nice guy and why bad boy why um nice guy i can't respect bad boy even though i don't like that behavior at least i respect that he's being himself but maybe a nice guy is being himself But then he's probably being nice and he's not being himself.

1:14:16Bad boy at least is taking the risk to be disliked. And because I can always, I respect people who are authentic and can be disliked because I do that myself. So I'd always respect a person who's willing to be hated than the guy that just wants to be liked. Okay. Wow. Why did you leave the UK? I don't like the energy in the UK. I don't like the way that the crime is so high. I don't like the fact that people aren't genuinely happy for each other. And I don't like the fact that I pay so much taxes and see none of my money coming back to me. And also, I don't like the weather. Whereas where I live now, I feel like no taxes.

1:14:53The government's super generous with you. There are flaws in every city. But as far as giving you a standard of living, I think Dubai is probably at the highest. What do you think of Andrew Tate's relationship advice? I think it works if you're not looking for marriage. If you're not looking for a marriage, an authentic relationship with children, and you're just looking for relationships, quick relationships, or people to have kids with, which might happen for a lot of men when they're super successful in marriage, it just doesn't fit their lifestyle. So if you're that kind of man and you're just looking for short-term kids and having excitement, it works perfectly fine.

1:15:28But if you're looking for a marriage and a more monotonous lifestyle, it won't work in your favour. What's your biggest failure or regret? my biggest failure I would say my temper as a person I'm quite a temperamental person I can lose my temper quite quickly and easily I come down for it very quickly and I lose it very quickly so I would say that it's a real regret every time I'm disrespectful every time I'm rude or every time I'm impulsive I hate that and I can't seem to control it and it hasn't changed over the years even as a teenager to now it just doesn't seem to calm down so that is my biggest failure I would Which you wouldn't expect, would you?

1:16:05You'd think I'd be a little bit more calm, but I'm actually a bitch. Well, I don't know you well enough to judge. This show is called Disruptors. What does that word mean to you? Someone who is willing to go against the majority to stand up for what they think is a better way of doing said task. And how do you deal with haters? You have some haters, don't you? I have a lot. I have a lot of haters. But one thing I would say is I'm lucky in the sense that the people I like and the people I respect and the content creators I really admire show me the same respect back. The people I find disgusting and the people that I find really gross are the people that really dislike me.

1:16:47So I look at the quality of the haters, and only if I was getting hate from people that I admire, I'd feel it. But if I'm getting it from people I actually look down on, I kind of don't really take it too bad. I'm quite strong with that. Okay. Well, thank you very much for being on the show. Thank you for having me. Thank you so much for having me. Where are you most active on socials and what work are you doing? I'm on Instagram, Sadia Psychology, and I'm also on TikTok and YouTube. Is that also Sadia Psychology? Sadia Psychology. And I have a program that is designed both for men and women about mastering masculinity and also making sure that your relationship, you master yourself, master the opposite sex, and then master relationships.

1:17:27And then I also do coaching. Where can people find out about that program? All on my website. yeah all of my so your website what's the URL for that sadiopsychology.com easy so sadiopsychology everything's there everything's there alright thank you so much thank you

1:18:00Bye.

From the publisher

Visit Coinbase to learn more: ⁠https://coinbase-consumer.sjv.io/xLq4qv ⁠
This episode is sponsored by Coinbase, Visit www.coinbase.com to learn more. Crypto comes with unique risks, take 2 minutes to learn more. ⁠https://coinbase-consumer.sjv.io/xLq4qv

Rob meets psychologist and relationship expert Sadia Khan, for a hard-hitting conversation about the complexities of modern relationships, masculinity, the impact of societal changes on dating dynamics, and why being cheated upon might be something you should manage

They also discuss the rise of narcissism among women and the challenges faced by men in today's world, including a loneliness epidemic exacerbated by social media and sexualised content, as well as the importance of parenting styles, the balance between ambition and emotional availability in relationships, and the evolving nature of marriage

BEST MOMENTS

"Forget what you feel. Behave correctly. Your feelings will follow." 

"Women are more narcissistic. We've created a generation of narcissistic women and passive men."

"If you get cheated on, it's your fault."

Exclusive community & resources:  

For more EXCLUSIVE & unfiltered content to make, manage & multiply more money, join our private online education platform: Money.School → https://money.school  

And if you’d like to meet 7 & 8 figure entrepreneurs, & scale to 6, 7 or 8 figures in your business or personal income, join us at our in-person Money Maker Summit Event (including EXCLUSIVE millionaire guests/masterminds sessions)  → https://robmoore.live/mms 

🔗 CONNECT WITH ROB 

📸 Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robmooreprogressive/?locale=en_GB 

📸 Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/robmooreprogressive/ 

👨‍💻 Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robmoore1979?originalSubdomain=uk 

🌍 Website: https://robmoore.com/ 

🎙 A NOTE FOR THE #DISRUPTORS:     

The world is on the edge of a revolution. Wealth, power & information are being disrupted. 

Mainstream media is dying. Your freedom is being challenged. Your money is being debased. #Disruptors & Rob Moore asks the questions others dare not to ask. Disruptive & diverse guests speak out on topical world issues & their areas of success & influence. As the world has changed, Disruptors has evolved to diverse global movers, shakers & change makers who stand out & speak up. 

Want to start your own podcast? Get in touch -  Disruptive Media. ⁠https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/

If you don’t risk anything, you risk everything.

More from Disruptors

All 42 episodes
Sadia Khan On Why It's Your Fault If You Get Cheated OnDisruptors · 1 h 21 min
Listen in VO