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Economist Podcast Episode Notes: "Barrel Vault: A Nigerian Refining Giant Rises"
Episode Overview In this episode of *The Intelligence*, the hosts discuss key developments surrounding Aliko Dangote's significant oil refinery in Nigeria, alongside insights into the Iranian diaspora in Los Angeles and the unexpected correlation between cancer diagnoses and crime rates.
Guests
- Ọrẹ Ogunbiyi – Africa correspondent
- Aryn Braun – West Coast correspondent
- Ainslie Johnstone – Data journalist
- Rosie Blau – Co-host
- Jason Palmer – Co-host
Key Topics Covered
- Aliko Dangote and the Nigerian Oil Refinery
- Iran's Diverse Diaspora in California
- Link Between Cancer Diagnosis and Crime Rates
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- Aliko Dangote and the Nigerian Oil Refinery
Background
- Aliko Dangote is the richest man in Africa and the owner of Africa’s largest oil refinery.
- The refinery, operational since February, processes 650,000 barrels of crude oil daily.
Importance of the Refinery
- Energy Security: The refinery addresses Nigeria's long-standing issues with fuel shortages and reliance on foreign refining.
- Financial Impact: It saves Nigeria from spending valuable dollars on importing refined products.
- Regional Influence: Plans to expand refinery capacity to serve neighboring countries like Cameroon and Angola, enhancing regional energy independence.
Economic and Social Implications
- Monopoly Concerns: Dangote's business practices, including tax breaks and political favors, have led to criticisms of monopolistic behavior.
- Job Creation: The refinery provides employment, but there are concerns regarding the reliance on foreign subcontractors and the lack of local workforce development.
- Future Plans: Dangote aims to take the refinery public and diversify into steel and mining, reinforcing Africa's industrial capacity.
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- Iranian Diaspora in California
Community Overview
- A significant portion of the Iranian diaspora, particularly in Los Angeles (referred to as "Tehrangeles"), is multi-ethnic and multi-religious, with a history of immigration post-1979 revolution.
- The community is characterized by a vibrant cultural presence, including restaurants and businesses.
Political Perspectives
- Diverse opinions exist regarding U.S. involvement in Iran, especially in light of recent military actions.
- Support for Military Action: Some community members advocate for continued U.S. intervention to weaken the Iranian regime.
- Skepticism of U.S. Involvement: Others warn that military actions may lead to prolonged conflicts similar to Iraq and Afghanistan and prefer a self-determined future for Iranians.
Cultural Dynamics
- The community’s reaction to geopolitical events showcases a blend of cultural pride and political activism, with shared hopes for a future free from oppressive regimes.
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- Cancer Diagnosis and Crime Correlation
Study Findings
- A study conducted in Denmark revealed that individuals diagnosed with cancer were 14% more likely to commit crimes compared to those yet to be diagnosed.
- The link is particularly strong in economically motivated crimes (e.g., drug dealing, burglaries).
Key Insights
- Impact of Diagnosis: Initial responses to a cancer diagnosis may lead to decreased criminal behavior; however, a significant increase in crime is observed in the years following diagnosis.
- Factors Influencing Crime Rates:
- Economic vulnerability (e.g., lower income, unemployment).
- Severity of cancer prognosis correlates with increased likelihood of criminal behavior.
- Variations in municipal welfare benefits also affect crime rates.
Broader Implications
- The findings suggest a need for policymakers to consider the potential rise in crime as they design healthcare and welfare systems, particularly in regions with less social support.
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Conclusion This episode highlights the intersection of entrepreneurial success, cultural identity, and social issues, providing listeners with a nuanced understanding of contemporary challenges and opportunities in Africa and the diaspora communities. The discussions around Dangote's refinery underscore the potential for industrial growth, while insights into the Iranian diaspora and cancer-related crime reveal the complex realities faced by communities globally.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Iranian Diaspora in California
1:28 to 2:30
Explore the diverse Iranian community in California and their challenges.
“Like Iran itself, it's multi-ethnic, multi-religious, and multi-generational.”
Aliko Dangote: Africa's Industrial Titan
2:30 to 3:48
Learn about Aliko Dangote, Africa's wealthiest man and his refinery.
“last week was the perfect time for us to visit Raleigh Kodangute.”
The Impact of Dangote's Refinery
3:48 to 4:50
Understand how Dangote's refinery transforms Nigeria's oil landscape.
“and he runs a conglomerate that does everything from cement to tomato processing, bit of infrastructure.”
Economic Revolution or Monopoly?
4:50 to 6:27
Discuss the implications of Dangote's business practices on competition.
“So the refinery part of his plan does seem to be working out, not least because of geopolitics as they are.”
The Workforce and Knowledge Transfer
6:27 to 7:52
Examine the employment dynamics and knowledge transfer in Dangote's refinery.
“He can single-handedly crash prices if he tried.”
Dangote's Broader Vision for Africa
7:52 to 9:33
Analyze Dangote's ambitions to boost Africa's industrial capacity.
“The refineries managers are mostly Indian experts.”
Future Prospects and Challenges
9:33 to 10:16
Explore Dangote's future plans and the potential challenges ahead.
“The region is becoming more resilient in the face of global shocks.”
Reflections on Celebration and War
14:00 to 14:22
Exploration of personal experiences during a time of conflict, highlighting diverse opinions.
“For decades, he's been living in Los Angeles.”
Diverging Views on American Involvement
14:22 to 16:10
Discussion of differing perspectives on U.S. military actions in Iran from local activists.
“It's important to say that the Iranian diaspora is vast and diverse.”
Cultural Resonance in Music
16:10 to 16:55
The impact of music during cultural celebrations amidst conflict, symbolizing sorrow and resilience.
“Neither of them wants a Venezuela-like outcome, where the president picks a more pliable member of the regime to run the country.”
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Insights from 'Breaking Bad' and Crime Study
16:55 to 18:20
Linking fictional narratives with real-life studies on crime rates post-cancer diagnosis.
“about a week after the start of the war.”
Crime Rates and Cancer: An Alarming Connection
18:20 to 21:03
Details from a study that shows increased crime rates among cancer patients, revealing underlying issues.
“But what they found was then following this, after a few years and then extending for a whole decade after the diagnosis, the likelihood that the patient became involved in crime increased by a lot.”
Broader Implications of Health and Crime
21:03 to 22:26
Discusses how the findings may generalize to other regions and diseases, and the importance of policy consideration.
“a shortened lifespan and the idea of going to prison just maybe is less of a threat to them.”
Transcript
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1:12Hello and welcome to The Intelligence from The Economist. I'm Jason Palmer. And I'm Rosie Bloor. Every weekday, we provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world.
1:27A surprising fraction of Iran's diaspora lives in California. Like Iran itself, it's multi-ethnic, multi-religious, and multi-generational. We get a view from what's called Tehrangelis. And millions of people are diagnosed with cancer each year. and it's hard to predict how you'll respond until it happens. But a new study finds something I'd never expected, a surprising link between cancer and crime rates.
2:04First up, though.
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2:35Ọrẹ Ogunbiyi:last week was the perfect time for us to visit Raleigh Kodangute. Ore Ogambi is an Africa correspondent for The Economist. He's not only Africa's richest man, but he's also the owner of Africa's largest refinery. Well, you know, it's a very rough period, you know, especially now I've seen it two days ago. I think on Tuesday also, where the crude ranges between$90 to$119.50. My colleague and I sat down with him on Thursday while news reports from Iran were beaming on the news channel behind us. You know, Nigeria is very lucky to have the refinery because right now it's not even about price, it's about availability.
3:21Which we have now actually delivered that availability.
3:24Ọrẹ Ogunbiyi:The Strait of Hummus is still effectively blocked. And that means there are lots of people calling up Mr Dangote's phone for solutions. It's a crazy situation right now, really. And I think this situation will continue for a while.
3:39Now, Ori, we spoke about the refinery when it was just opening up, but remind me about Mr Dangote and how he got where he is.
3:47Ọrẹ Ogunbiyi:Aliko Dangote is a 68-year-old entrepreneur, and he runs a conglomerate that does everything from cement to tomato processing, bit of infrastructure. He's branching out into mining. But in 2024, he opened a massive $20 billion oil refinery. It's just outside of Lagos. It's spread across land, about half the size of Manhattan. It is really huge. But that's what's made him extra relevant right now. Since February of this year, that refinery has been able to process 650 ,000 barrels of crude a day. It turns it into everything from gasoline for cars to jet fuel. And those are things that are in high demand at the moment.
4:27I can tell you without the refineries would I have been out of all the petroleum products. Nigeria would have been at a standstill without the refinery.
4:39Ọrẹ Ogunbiyi:He has a grand plan to ramp up Africa's industrial capacity and importantly make the region much more self-reliant in a world that is this unpredictable. So the refinery part of his plan does seem to be working out, not least because of geopolitics as they are. Well, exactly. And before we get into the geopolitics, it's also had real benefits for Nigeria. So despite being Africa's largest crude producer, Nigeria has historically spent lots of scarce dollars re-importing its own crude that's being refined abroad. it doesn't have to do that anymore. It gets to save those costly dollars and put them towards much more important things but also it takes away those fuel shortages that used to create lengthy queues around the corner and that have been a real problem for Nigeria for about 50 odd years.
5:28Ọrẹ Ogunbiyi:As if Mr Danglater's refinery isn't big enough he's planning on expanding it so he can offer that same energy security to countries like Cameroon and Angola other countries in the region that also are still too dependent on the rest of the world for their own energy supplies. We will end up being the largest refinery in the world. We'll have almost about 48 % of the entire Saudi Arabia's refining capacity. So it's not a small distance, and it will mean quite a lot to the region. Beyond just oil, the refinery also produces fertilizer. and since that's another thing that's getting stuck in the Strait of Hormuz this is also bringing him new customers this is good for his margins it's good for farm yields both in Africa and in the rest of the world So it seems clear then that this refinery has just made a big African businessman even bigger Well exactly, Jason, he is a capitalist after all I mean if you look at his big cement division for example he leveraged tax breaks, political favours, import bans and he managed to build a company that has such big profit margins, that has such capacity that you wouldn't even bother competing with him.
6:44Ọrẹ Ogunbiyi:He can single-handedly crash prices if he tried. And that's why people accuse him of being a monopolist. That's a common criticism that he receives. Although he denies this, he says that he's being completely misunderstood. But you can already see signs of that model being replicated in his refinery business. I mean, for example, Nigeria's regulators are saying that they are freezing new import licenses for anyone else who imports petrol. So you're basically trusting the country's entire energy security into one man's hands. It's great for him and his bank balance, but obviously a less competitive energy environment probably isn't very good for Nigerians.
7:22But he is giving them a bunch of jobs at what is, as you say, an enormous refinery.
7:25Ọrẹ Ogunbiyi:I mean, we didn't see as many people on our refinery tour as I think we thought we would. Another way in which Mr. Dangotee widens his margins is by relying quite heavily on foreign subcontractors, especially for the more technical kind of high skilled jobs. And that comes at a cost because the kind of local knowledge transfer that you'd hope would really lift up the population and inspire a new generation of Dangotees just isn't really happening. The refineries managers are mostly Indian experts. And there are a few scores of Nigerian employees and trainees that we ran into. But Mr. Dangote's projects are lean on staff by design.
8:03Ọrẹ Ogunbiyi:He's going for efficiency and high standards, he says. It doesn't matter whether they are English, they are Indians, they are Nigerians. It doesn't matter. But they are our staff. And to be honest, I think he is well aware of the new position that this refinery puts him in. We don't have any reason today to go and increase even capacity because we want to ward off competition. Already where we are, competition will never, there's nobody, I'm telling you as a proud African, there's no African that can build a refinery. It's a compliment, it's a point of pride, but it's also a dare to anyone else who wants to try.
8:42Ọrẹ Ogunbiyi:That is a man that is fully aware of his power. But what about that wider picture that you talked about earlier, the ramping up Africa's industrial capacity, helping it become more self-reliant? Is that a realistic vision or just it sounds good? I think it's a bit of both. I think he does care about Africa, but ultimately he's got his eyes set on the whole world. His main buyer of his urea fertilizer is Brazil. He parks his wealth in Dubai. He exports those refined petrol products, not just to neighboring countries, and he's not just supplying Nigeria. they're also going to Europe and America.
9:15Ọrẹ Ogunbiyi:He plans to take the refinery public this year and there are whispers of a dual listing in both Lagos and in London. But I think for all his flaws, Africa is much better off because they have Africans like this investing a lot of their capital into the continent. The region is becoming more resilient in the face of global shocks. Big oil prices that would usually rattle the continent still are, but slightly less so. And Mr. Angote has even more lined up. He's branching into steel, into mining. He told us stuff about copper smelting, power generation. That should make the continent even more resilient than it's already becoming.
9:55Ọrẹ Ogunbiyi:As he gets up to leave his interview and staff popped up from everywhere, he left us with a promise. When you come back in three years' time, what you have seen today in the complex, it will be three times. And I don't know, Jason, I personally, wouldn't bet against him. Ori, thanks very much for joining us. Jason, thanks so much for having me.
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11:44Half of all Iranian-Americans live in California, and nearly a third of them, which is about 230 ,000 people, live around Los Angeles. Aaron Braun is our West Coast correspondent. Many of these people arrived after the revolution in 1979, and a lot of them were Iranian Jews. These first immigrés were often really wealthy and highly educated, and they settled in neighborhoods like Westwood and Beverly Hills. And little by little, the community built what's known locally as Tarantulas. Westwood Boulevard is filled with Persian restaurants and bookstores, and Iranian flags hang from supermarkets and are across entire buildings like a rug shop that I visited.
12:34So when America began bombing Iran last month, many of the residents of Tarantulas came to Westwood Boulevard to voice their support and their hope for the future.
13:02This morning I am walking down Westwood Boulevard, just south of Wilshire in West LA. and I've just been talking to shop owners, restaurant owners about their views of the war. It's about a week now since the bombing. One of the people I met was Ruzba Farhanipur. He's the owner of a couple of restaurants on Westwood Boulevard. We met at his Greek taverna where a shark tank was in the back of the room and the salt and pepper shakers had little Greek figures on them. I was here. At the time of the Khamenei killed, we heard the news. I was suspicious. That's not true because sources I couldn't trust until President Trump put it in his own truth social.
13:55But Ruzba is not just a restaurateur. He was an opposition leader in Iran, and he fled the country after leading a student uprising in 1999. For decades, he's been living in Los Angeles. The spectrum TV was here. I grabbed a bottle of champagne and opened it and drank it out. So that's on the TV. And then after that, anybody passed by, came to congratulate me. I poured the champagne for them.
14:31It's important to say that the Iranian diaspora is vast and diverse. It's multi-ethnic and multi-religious and multi-generational. People have very different opinions on how this war should proceed. Elham Yaguvian is an activist and a local business leader in Beverly Hills. She is desperate for the regime to fall. — Leaving Iran in that situation wouldn't help the Iranian people. Because in the streets of Iran, people have, you know, still in danger. — She believes America should stay the course, should keep up the bombing, until the regime is absolutely crippled. — They just said it to find excuse to kill people in the streets.
15:16So no, I'm 100 % disagree. This is not the right time to leave the Iranian people alone. But not everybody agrees. Ruzbou, that restaurateur who was pouring champagne for people, he's a longtime friend of hers, and he's much more skeptical of America's involvement.
15:45He's worried that what's happening in Iran could one day resemble Iraq or Afghanistan, become another of America's forever wars. He wants America to declare victory and stop the bombing so that Iranians themselves can take to the streets. So that's a U.S. So that's a big victory. Cheers and leave. But the two are united on one thing. Neither of them wants a Venezuela-like outcome, where the president picks a more pliable member of the regime to run the country. They believe Iranians should determine their own future. Honestly, I believe that choosing the leadership for Iran, it should be in control of the Iranian people, not the West, not Israel, no one else.
16:39Support for Donald Trump and his aggression might weaken as the war drags on. it already feels like the celebrations are subsiding in Westwood. I went to a concert at UCLA in advance of No Ruz, the Persian New Year, about a week after the start of the war.
17:01The first song the orchestra played was a funeral march in honor of the protesters the regime had killed in January. The music projected sorrow, but also resilience.
17:28So I don't know if you've seen the program Breaking Bad. Ainsley Johnstone is a data journalist. The idea is that this mild-mannered chemistry teacher is diagnosed with cancer and to try and provide for his family and to pay for his treatment, he turns to a life of crime and becomes a drug lord. What I'm making is classic coke. All right. There's a recent study that shows that this plot may not be as outlandish as it seems.
18:05Okay, and how did you work that out? So it was a study by researchers based in Denmark and the Netherlands, and they used administrative data for the whole of the Danish population between 1980 and 2018. they specifically looked at people who at some point during this time were diagnosed with cancer and they found that those people were 14 % more likely to commit a crime after their diagnosis compared with people who were yet to be diagnosed with the condition. Interestingly they found that in the year of and immediately following their diagnosis they actually were a bit less likely to commit crime, probably because they were in treatment or maybe they were actually acutely unwell in this time.
18:54But what they found was then following this, after a few years and then extending for a whole decade after the diagnosis, the likelihood that the patient became involved in crime increased by a lot. And what kind of crimes are we talking about? So the biggest absolute increase was in what the authors called economic crimes. So that was things like drug dealing and burglaries. And that gives some hints to what the motivations might be. So they think that people may turn to crime because of money problems. In Denmark, even Denmark that has a great social welfare system, people after a cancer diagnosis are less likely to be employed and they're likely to have a lower income.
19:39But also they found that as well as these economic crimes, violent crime also increased. And this was actually the biggest percentage increase. They found that things like homicide and assault rose by 21 % after a diagnosis. That's a massive increase. Was there some history of criminal past or something else going on as Well, so no. They found that the effect was basically the same whether someone had a history of criminality or whether they were a first-time offender. But there were other predictors that kind of moderated this effect. They found that people who were particularly financially vulnerable, so perhaps people who don't own a home, people who are single, that they were the most likely to have an increase in crime rate.
20:27They also found that during the course of the study, there was this change in the municipal level welfare benefits. Some municipalities became more generous than others became less generous. And what they found was that in the places where welfare became less generous, there was again a bigger increase in criminality. The other predictor was patients' prognosis. So patients who were diagnosed with more severe forms of cancer, cancer that was more likely to be lethal, they were the ones in which offending rose the most sharply. The authors think maybe this is that these people, they think they have a shortened lifespan and the idea of going to prison just maybe is less of a threat to them.
21:12What about other diseases? Have they looked at that? Other life-threatening illnesses? They haven't looked at other life-threatening illnesses. The reason they looked at cancer was because it's a very clear diagnosis. There's lots of different types of cancer. It affects people across income levels. But the idea is that this may well generalise to other diseases as well. And the gender split? Gender was a very important predictor. So men tend to commit a lot more crime, particularly a lot more violent crime. And the effect of cancer on crime was much bigger in men. So they had this much greater increase after diagnosis.
21:53And how might these sorts of consequences play out in other parts of the world? So when I spoke with one of the authors of the study, she said that in her mind, these results were really a kind of lower bound estimate of this effect. So as I mentioned, they're looking at Denmark has this very generous social welfare policy. And the authors think that in places where there is maybe less of a social safety net, that this effect might be greater. And I think the effect on crime is just not something that governments think about when they're designing healthcare and welfare policies. And maybe they should.
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22:31Ainsley, thank you very much. Thank you.
22:53That's all for this episode of The Intelligence. We'll see you back here tomorrow.
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From the publisher
Nigeria sorely needed the enormous oil refinery built by Aliko Dangote, who was already Africa’s richest man. We ask what that new capacity means for him, for Nigeria and for the continent. We speak to the surprisingly large and diverse Iranian diaspora in Los Angeles. And how a cancer diagnosis seems to drive some people to a life of crime.
Guests and host:
- Ọrẹ Ogunbiyi – Africa correspondent
- Aryn Braun – West Coast correspondent
- Ainslie Johnstone – data journalist
- Rosie Blau, co-host of “The Intelligence”
- Jason Palmer, co-host of “The Intelligence”
Topics covered:
- Aliko Dangote, Nigeria, oil, energy security
- Iran’s diaspora, California
- cancer, crime, data
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