In short
The episode weighs America’s new blockade strategy against Iran—meant to stop Iranian “toll booth” payments and disrupt hard-currency flows—while assessing likely effects on global energy markets and escalation risk. It also covers Burkina Faso’s jihadist-fueled counterinsurgency “total war” under President Ibrahim Traoré, and a culture segment on why sparkling water demand is surging.
Guests/backgrounds
Shashank Joshi (The Economist defense editor). Tom Gardner (The Economist Africa correspondent, based in Nairobi). John Fasman (The Economist senior culture correspondent).
Key claims
The blockade will be enforced “impartially” on ships using Iranian ports/coastal waters, likely in the Gulf of Oman. Iran may endure months, while retaliation could tighten oil supplies and push Brent toward $150. Traoré’s scorched-earth campaign and volunteer defense forces have killed civilians and fueled jihadist growth. Sparkling water sales are up 70% since 2019.
Notable examples
Seizure of 10 Venezuela-linked tankers; a Chinese tanker reportedly heading through Hormuz; Human Rights Watch estimates ~1,800+ civilian deaths in ~57 attacks in Burkina Faso; Traoré’s 2023 base massacre; Joseph Priestley’s CO2 infusion method and Schwepp’s scaling; Topo Chico, La Croix, San Pellegrino.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOAmerica’s New Blockade Strategy
2:18 to 3:24
Examine the implications of America’s blockade strategy against Iran.
“Talks between America and Iran over the weekend could have reshaped a relationship defined by almost half a century of hostility.”
Mechanics of the Blockade
3:26 to 4:32
Understand how America is implementing the blockade on Iranian shipping.
“and lead to another round of escalation in this war.”
Impact on Energy Markets
4:33 to 6:30
Analyze how the blockade might influence global energy markets and oil prices.
“Pentagon that runs operations in the Middle East, has said it will basically impose a blockade on all ships that originate in Iranian ports or go through Iranian coastal waters.”
Diplomatic Consequences of the Blockade
6:31 to 8:23
Discuss the potential diplomatic fallout from the U.S. blockade affecting allies.
“The big, big problem is that I think Iran's going to respond to this by attacking or restricting neutral shipping as well, to say, well, if you blockade our ships, we'll go back to blockading all of yours.”
Potential Outcomes of the Blockade
8:34 to 10:11
Explore the possible consequences of the blockade on Iran and U.S.-Iran relations.
“And there are some reports Iran was discussing a 20-year moratorium on enrichment, which would be quite a big deal if it had agreed to something like that.”
Update on the Sahel Region
12:42 to 14:02
Examining the ongoing situation in Burkina Faso and leadership under Ibrahim Traoré.
“The Sahel coups as they were seen to be failing to contain the threat.”
Militarization and Civilian Impact in Burkina Faso
14:02 to 18:30
Explore the consequences of Burkina Faso's government-led militarization and its effects on civilians amidst jihadist threats.
“On social media, in viral videos, he is pitching himself as an anti-Western, anti-imperialist, kind of pan-African.”
History and Popularity of Sparkling Water
19:07 to 22:05
Uncover the fascinating history of sparkling water and its rise in popularity among modern consumers.
“John Fasman is our senior culture correspondent.”
Transcript
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1:25Hello and welcome to The Intelligence from The Economist. I'm Jason Palmer.
1:30Rosie Blau:And I'm Rosie Bloor. Every weekday we provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world.
1:40We've been tracking the growing jihadist threat in the Sahel region for years. It's growing fastest in Burkina Faso, where the ways and means of the charismatic president's crackdown have just been labeled war crimes.
1:55Rosie Blau:And if you're drinking less alcohol than you used to, you may still find that at the end of the day, you want to kick back and have a relaxing drink of something. Our correspondent finds his glass half empty and looks for an appropriate replacement.
2:17Rosie Blau:But first...
2:25Rosie Blau:Talks between America and Iran over the weekend could have reshaped a relationship defined by almost half a century of hostility. More realistically, some hoped that at least they'd come up with a deal to buy time and stave off a renewal of fighting. Instead, it ended with a three-minute press conference and no deal. Though the conflict hasn't resumed yet, America has now embarked on a new strategy, a blockade of ships using Iranian ports and coastal areas. When America and Israel launched their war on Iran back in February, most observers expected Iran would choke off shipping in the Strait of Hormuz.
3:07I think very few people expected that less than two months later, Donald Trump would essentially do the same thing himself.
3:14Rosie Blau:Shashank Joshi is our defence editor. I think Trump hopes that economic strangulation of Iran is going to work where bombardment has failed. It's a gamble and I think a dangerous one that could compound the global energy crisis and lead to another round of escalation in this war. So explain the fuller rationale here. I think the rationale here is quite simple, Rosie. It's America saying, look, if Iran's not allowing other people's ships to pass by threat of missile attack or drone attack or mines, then Iran's shipping will not be allowed to pass either. That's quite straightforward in military terms.
3:52America can board and seize ships very easily. It did, you might recall, 10 tankers linked to Venezuela in the last six months or so. The economic and political aspects are trickier. The aim is probably to sever Iran's economic lifeline and make the regime plunge into some sort of economic crisis. And then it will have to make a deal with America over what proved to be the sticking points in these talks we just had in Islamabad over its nuclear program and one or two other things. I think in practice, it's going to be a lot harder than that.
4:22Rosie Blau:Just explain to me how America is actually enacting this blockade and whether you think it will achieve those aims you've outlined? The mechanism is that America's Central Command, which is the branch of the Pentagon that runs operations in the Middle East, has said it will basically impose a blockade on all ships that originate in Iranian ports or go through Iranian coastal waters. And it will do that impartially. That is, Iranian ships, Chinese ships, whatever. It doesn't matter. And that's a requirement of blockades under international law, that they're enforced in that impartial way. And what they're trying to do essentially is say if a country is trying to use Iran's so-called toll booth system, that is getting permission from the revolutionary guards, paying a fee to Iran, these ships are typically going through Iran's coastal waters very close to Iran's coastline.
5:14And this is a way of saying, if you do that, we will come and get you at the other end. Now, I think that's going to be enforced in the Gulf of Oman rather than going all the way up into Hormuz at that choke point. You know, why would you be trying to board ships in such a dangerous area? And I think we're going to have a test of this very soon because there has been a Chinese tanker. In fact, I think it's a falsely flagged tanker. It's already heading out through Hormuz this morning as I'm talking to you, Rosie. So we'll find out exactly what happens. But I think the point is that if you do enough of this, Iran's oil exports will eventually be disrupted.
5:44The problem is that Iran's just not exporting all that much oil at the moment. And if you think back to 2020, Iran's oil exports dipped well below 400 ,000 barrels per day. That was when Trump tried to crush Iran's economy and Iran survived that. And so my concern is Iran can endure months of this pressure. You know, it can print money. It can sell something like 100 million barrels of oil. It has some floating storage off Malaysia or China and it can get credit lines off some of its buyers. So all in all, my concern is this will take far longer to essentially bring Iran to its knees than I think Donald Trump can stomach.
6:21Rosie Blau:So you think Iran can endure this, but what impact will it have on energy markets? Well, that's exactly why I think it's going to be difficult for Donald Trump to endure this, because the loss of Iranian output is not in itself catastrophic. The big, big problem is that I think Iran's going to respond to this by attacking or restricting neutral shipping as well, to say, well, if you blockade our ships, we'll go back to blockading all of yours. And what that will do is it will really trap this massive volume of Gulf supply, which has been trapped for months, and Iran's not going to allow that to come out.
6:51That's a big problem, right? Because importers will have to then draw down stocks that are already very limited. I think that will probably push Brent crude futures to$150 a barrel by the end of April. And if you factor in potential Iranian strikes on energy facilities, as we saw in previous weeks, and also the prospect that the Houthis in Yemen joined this war as well, which they were very, very cagey about, I think you're going to see a serious tightening of oil markets again. And just as the traders were sort of breathing a sigh of relief and saying, ah, maybe it's back to normal now.
7:21Rosie Blau:And presumably this will affect other types of ships and shipping as well. Absolutely. As I said, a Chinese tanker is already trying to get out of Hormuz. What's going to happen? You know, is America going to seize a Chinese tanker? And it's not just China. It's oil that's been bound for China, Pakistan, Thailand. All of it moved out of Hormuz in the days after the ceasefire. I've certainly seen French and Turkish ships send their vessels through Hormuz prior to that point. and seemingly with Iranian consent. So, you know, for example, the Indians say we haven't paid Iran a toll to get through.
7:52We haven't paid Iran a fee. And that's what Donald Trump said was his real concern. But if you look at the rules of this blockade set out by the Pentagon, they say any ship going through Iranian coastal areas or ports is going to be subject to this blockade impartially. And that would probably cover these lots of these ships. So you have the prospect of America imposing a blockade that will affect not just adversaries like China, but many of its allies, partners and friends like Pakistan, like Thailand, like the French, like the Turks. And I think that that's going to be diplomatically very difficult for the US to handle because it will be compounding this energy crisis, blockading friendly shipping and, of course, probably triggering another round of escalation.
8:33Rosie Blau:You said at the top that it was a dangerous gamble. Could it pay off? Well, look, if this really succeeds in choking off Iran's hard currency access, if it generates an economic crisis in Iran and hyperinflation is the currency devalues and the government prints money, all while curbing the impact on oil prices, curbing the impact on commodities, as we've discussed, Rosie, it's not just oil going through Hormuz. If it can limit military escalation, then yes, perhaps it brings Iran to its knees, back to the negotiating table, and the regime says, OK, we're willing to negotiate on our 400 kilograms of highly enriched uranium on the future of enrichment.
9:12And there are some reports Iran was discussing a 20-year moratorium on enrichment, which would be quite a big deal if it had agreed to something like that. I am doubtful. I think Iran feels like it won that first round of hostilities. Not that it didn't come out very badly, but that it survived. It controlled Hormuz. It had its nuclear stockpiles in its hands at the end of this conflict. And I think it will look at the situation here and say, Donald Trump has midterm elections in, what is it, seven months? The oil prices rising, gas prices are rising. In that situation, who can hold out longer?
9:43The theocratic regime that has survived against a siege since 1979 or an American government who is led by a man who's well known for, how should we say it, backing away from the precipice from some of these confrontations and who has this major electoral contest coming up over the horizon where voters are already unhappy with his performance on the war and with inflation. In those circumstances, I reckon Iran thinks it can outlast an American blockade.
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11:28Rosie Blau:Shashank, thank you very much for talking to me Thanks very much Rosie
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12:42The Sahel coups as they were seen to be failing to contain the threat. Ibrahim Traoré, the country's leader since the last one in 2022, has been implementing a drastic solution, but it's proving as counterproductive as it is deadly. Burkina Faso's strongman president has launched what I would call a scorched earth campaign. He calls it total war. Tom Gardner is an Africa correspondent for The Economist and is based in Nairobi. Hundreds of civilians have been killed, many simply rounded up and gunned down. Survivors speak of butchery. So for a start, tell me about this strongman. Ibrahim Traore is probably Africa's most popular president at the moment.
13:30He's a 38 eight-year-old military officer who came to power in a coup in 2022. He is known for his snappy dress, his red beret. He's a good-looking, charismatic man. And he has become the face of these military regimes in the Sahel region.
14:02On social media, in viral videos, he is pitching himself as an anti-Western, anti-imperialist, kind of pan-African. It's hard to understand this. This campaign is what the government wants to do. It's responding to terrorism with terrorism. In effect, yes. I mean, the government and these allied volunteer defense forces have rampaged through villages, hamlets in response to jihadist attacks. for example, on a military base in northern Burkina Faso in 2023, when hundreds were killed. This is one of many overreactions to the jihadist insurgency. According to a new report from Human Rights Watch, some 1 ,800 or more civilians have been killed in some 57 attacks.
14:50But that is probably only the tip of the iceberg. There have been numerous atrocities between 2023 and 2025, which amount to war crimes and crimes against humanity. Moreover, the junta led by Traore also stands accused of a campaign of ethnic cleansing against the Fulani ethnic minority. This is a nomadic group that's scattered across West Africa and they become the primary targets now of the government's counterinsurgency strategy and that's why Human Rights Watch and Others talks of ethnic cleansing. And what has the government's response been to those accusations? They've described this report as false and its only purpose to demonize the army.
15:38I should say, though, Traore has made criticizing or defying the West the cornerstone of his political ideological agenda. And because of this, he has little difficulty in batting away allegations, however well documented, from NGOs or foreign organizations. But I think there is quite a lot of evidence now that his approach, in effect, kind of full-bore militarism, repression, is actually pushing more of the population into the arms of the jihadists and thereby undermining the junta's central justification for holding power. So why has the president's strategy been ultimately so deadly? I think primarily because of the role of the volunteer defense forces, which are essentially armed civilians who've been, since 2022, recruited in tens of thousands.
16:30I mean, there are more than double the number of militias than there are troops in the official army. And this has the effect of essentially ethnicizing the conflict. These are really poorly trained recruits and mostly drawn from dominant ethnic groups, such as the Mossi, the most populous and most powerful. They've been targeting, in particular, the Fulani ethnic group. So essentially the issue is that these civilians being handed guns and notionally targeting jihadists are targeting ethnic groups they don't like. Yes, effectively. There are reports from refugees of whole villages essentially being targeted, first by the jihadists, then by the volunteers and the army and vice versa, essentially putting them between a rock and a hard place.
17:16That has been deadly for civilians. You said the president is practiced in swatting away any criticism of what he's up to. Do you see any reason why this situation could get better? Unfortunately not. I think the government's actions are effectively counterproductive. rather than reducing the threat from jihadism, they're driving more and more of the population into the jihadist's arms. I mean, I think in Burkina Faso, the jihadist movements are growing faster than they are elsewhere in the region, in neighboring Mali, Niger. In some places, they're increasingly acting like a state. You'd think this would damage Traore's regime.
17:58I don't think it has done yet, partly because the jihadists remain far away from the capital, Agadougou, and partly because the scorched earth strategy still does seem to be quite popular, at least in central Burkina Faso and the capital, those areas far from the places most affected by the insurgency. The upshot then is that civilians are probably going to continue to suffer from both the jihadist attacks and, unfortunately, the army's attempts to fight them. Thanks very much for joining us, Tom. Thank you, Jason.
18:57As you may have heard, alcohol consumption is declining. But people still want something other than just tap water at the end of the day. What drink might come to fill that void? Sparkling water may be one answer.
19:13Rosie Blau:John Fasman is our senior culture correspondent. This stuff is more popular than ever. Sales of it in America are up 70 % from 2019, according to Mintel, a research firm. But trendy as it is, the story of sparkling water is an old one.
19:36Back in the 18th century, Joseph Priestley, an English chemist, became fascinated by what he called various different kinds of air. His experiments would eventually lead to his independent discovery of oxygen in 1774. But more importantly for us, seven years earlier, he developed a method of infusing water with carbon dioxide. Some 15 years later, Johann Schwepp, a Swiss scientist whose name in possessive form should be familiar, started a company to produce sparkling water at scale. By the 19th century, soda fountains, which made carbonated drinks on site, were becoming more popular.
20:25In America, sparkling water proved especially popular among Jewish immigrants, perhaps because it was the cleanest water available on Manhattan's Lower East Side. It was known colloquially as seltzer, after a German town famous for its sparkling water. These days, consumers are spoiled for choice.
20:52For European sophisticates, or wannabe European sophisticates, there are the delicate bubbles of Badois, or San Pellegrino. Georgians rave about Borjomi, a naturally sparkling water with a sulfurous scent and a heavy mineral flavor believed to have healing properties. I hope any Georgians listening will forgive me, but to me it's always kind of tasted like fizzy saliva. So buoyant is demand for sparkling water that even supermarket chains have their own lines of the flavored sort. People trying to cut back on fizzy drinks can choose lightly fruity Spindrift or La Croix. But the question remains, which is the best?
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21:30Some people like a Baudoua-esque whisper of bubbles, but that seems an experiential waste to me. The iconic green bottle of San Pellegrino is eye-catching, but comes at a price point to match. My own favorite is Topo Chico, a Mexican brand now owned by Coca-Cola. One enthusiast who disagreed with me described its bubbles as the angriest in the world, and he has a point. The bubbles are fierce, there's no mineral aftertaste, it pairs perfectly with spicy food, and it helps settle the stomach. Consumers should cheer for the choice they have. I certainly am.
22:23Rosie Blau:That's all for this episode of The Intelligence. See you back here tomorrow.
23:06We'll see you next time.
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From the publisher
After the failure of talks at the weekend, America is now stopping all ships from using Iranian ports and coastal areas. Our correspondent analyses the rationale. Burkina Faso’s government is committing war crimes. And which type of fizzy water tastes best?
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Guests and host:
- Shashank Joshi, defence editor
- Tom Gardner, Africa correspondent
- Jon Fasman, senior culture writer
- Rosie Blau, co-host of “The Intelligence”
- Jason Palmer, co-host of “The Intelligence”
Topics covered:
- America, Iran, blockade, Strait of Hormuz, oil
- Burkina Faso, Sahel, jihad, Ibrahim Traoré
- Sparkling water, fizzy drinks, alcohol
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