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Economist Podcasts - Episode Summary: Strait of Shock: Iran Economic Fallout
Overview This episode of the Economist Podcasts discusses the economic fallout resulting from military actions in the Strait of Hormuz, particularly focusing on Iran and its implications for global oil markets.
Key Participants
- Rachana Shanbhogue: Business and finance editor
- Noah Sneider: East Asia bureau chief
- Andrew Miller: “Back Story” columnist
- Rosie Blau: Host of “The Intelligence”
Topics Explored
- Iran and its impact on global oil prices
- The recent military developments in the Strait of Hormuz
- Japan's energy policy and nuclear power revival post-Fukushima
- The significance of Jafar Panahi's film in the context of the Iranian war
Key Discussions
- Iran and Global Oil Markets
- The Pentagon reported the elimination of 16 Iranian mine-laying ships, raising concerns about the ongoing conflict's impact on global oil prices.
- Roughly $20 billion worth of oil (about one-fifth of global trade) passes through the Strait daily.
- Due to threats from Iran against ships crossing the Strait, oil prices have fluctuated significantly, reaching nearly $120 per barrel before stabilizing around $90.
Economic Measures Discussed
- Strategic Oil Stockpile Releases: Discussions are ongoing within the International Energy Agency (IEA) about releasing emergency oil stocks to mitigate price increases.
- U.S. Policy on Russian Oil: The U.S. has made it easier for countries like India to purchase Russian oil amid sanctions, complicating the geopolitical landscape.
- Japan's Nuclear Power Revival
- In light of rising energy prices and dependence on imported fossil fuels, Japan is restarting nuclear reactors, notably the Kashiwazaki Kariwa plant.
- The restart of this plant is symbolically significant as it represents a move towards energy independence, especially in the wake of global energy instability.
Historical Context
- Japan's reliance on nuclear power significantly decreased after the 2011 Fukushima disaster, with a shift towards renewable energy sources being challenging.
- The current government aims to increase the contribution of nuclear power to 20% by 2040, while balancing the development of renewable energy.
- Cultural Insights: Jafar Panahi's Film
- Jafar Panahi, an acclaimed Iranian filmmaker, has a film nominated for two Oscars, titled "It Was Just An Accident."
- The film's themes of moral reckoning resonate with the current socio-political climate in Iran, particularly amidst the war.
- Panahi's experiences with the Iranian regime highlight the struggles of artists against authoritarianism.
Implications of the Discussions
- Economic Impact: The disruption in oil supply due to military actions in Iran could lead to prolonged economic effects, with potential repercussions on everyday consumer prices and economic activity.
- Energy Policy Shift: Japan’s strategic shift back to nuclear energy signifies a major policy change aimed at achieving energy security while also addressing climate concerns.
- Art and Expression: Panahi's work illustrates the power of art in challenging oppressive regimes and the continuing relevance of moral questions in times of conflict.
Conclusion The episode highlights the intertwined nature of geopolitical conflicts, energy markets, and cultural expressions. As tensions continue in the Middle East, the ramifications are felt not only in markets but also in cultural narratives that reflect resilience and the quest for justice.
For further exploration of these topics, listen to the full episode of the Economist Podcasts.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOJapan's Nuclear Dilemma
1:30 to 2:28
Discussing the impact of the Fukushima disaster on Japan's nuclear policy.
“15 years ago today, a giant tsunami struck the coast of Japan, causing catastrophic damage to the Fukushima nuclear power plant.”
Iran Conflict and Oil Markets
2:28 to 4:19
Exploring the economic impact of the Iran conflict on global oil prices.
“On a regular day, around$20 billion worth of oil, a fifth of the global trade, sails out of the Persian Gulf and through the strait.”
Global Oil Supply Options
4:19 to 7:25
Analyzing potential strategies to stabilize oil supply amidst conflict.
“and to increase the supply on the market and bring down the price.”
Economic Consequences of War
7:25 to 10:12
Examining how the Iran conflict's disruption affects global economies.
“America itself, of course, is a huge supplier of oil, the world's biggest producer, in fact.”
Japan's Energy Future
10:12 to 14:05
Investigating the implications of Japan restarting its nuclear power plants.
“It will curb their activity and the things that they can do.”
Japan's Nuclear Revival: A Complex Restart
14:05 to 15:50
Learn about the significance of Japan's nuclear power plant restart and its implications for energy policy.
“and the company that operates it, the Tokyo Electric Power Company, hopes to begin full commercial operations, sending power to households in the capital of Japan later this month.”
Japan's Energy Struggles Post-Fukushima
15:52 to 17:43
Explore Japan's energy challenges and the shift away from nuclear energy after Fukushima.
“A little bit of context is important here.”
Government's Push for Nuclear Energy
17:45 to 19:05
Understand the Japanese government's strategy to revive and expand nuclear energy amidst energy crises.
“So now the plan is to revive nuclear power.”
Public Sentiment on Nuclear Power
19:08 to 20:45
Analyze the shifting attitudes of the Japanese public towards nuclear energy in light of climate change and economic factors.
“And Noah, how is the Japanese public reacting to the return of nuclear?”
The Artistic Struggle of Jafar Panahi
20:49 to 25:58
Discover the experiences of filmmaker Jafar Panahi, reflecting on his imprisonment and artistic resilience.
“When you are interrogated at Avin prison in Tehran, recalls Jafar Panahi, you are blindfolded and placed on a chair facing a wall.”
Transcript
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1:08Noah Sneider:The Economist.
1:15Rosie Blau:Hello and welcome to The Intelligence from The Economist. I'm your host, Rosie Bloor. Every weekday, we provide a fresh perspective on the events shaping your world.
1:30Rosie Blau:15 years ago today, a giant tsunami struck the coast of Japan, causing catastrophic damage to the Fukushima nuclear power plant. The country soon shuttered all such facilities, but now Japan is reviving its nuclear dreams. And one of the films competing for an Oscar this weekend is called It Was Just an Accident, made by an Iranian filmmaker who has spent time in jail. The war has only made the movie's theme of moral reckoning more urgent. Our correspondent met its director.
2:07Rosie Blau:First up, though.
2:15Rosie Blau:Overnight, the Pentagon claimed to have eliminated 16 Iranian mine-laying ships near the Strait of Hormuz. This morning, a cargo tanker was evacuated after being hit by a projectile. All news that once again raises jitters about the economic impact of the conflict in Iran. On a regular day, around$20 billion worth of oil, a fifth of the global trade, sails out of the Persian Gulf and through the strait. A similar share of the world's liquefied natural gas also takes that route. But with the American-Israeli war now in its second week, Iran has threatened to attack any ship that attempts to cross the strait.
2:54Rosie Blau:And oil prices are on a roller coaster.
2:58Rachana Shanbhogue:Oil markets have been desperately clinging on to any signs that the war is going to come to an end.
3:06Rosie Blau:Rachna Shanbhog is The Economist's business affairs editor.
3:09Rachana Shanbhogue:Early on Monday morning, they surged, reaching nearly$120 a barrel. Once it started to sink in, the Strait of Hormuz was closed. Then when Donald Trump said that the war was pretty much complete, there was jubilation and the oil price fell very sharply. And again, yesterday we saw gyrations when America's Energy Secretary tweeted that a tanker had gone through the strait together with an escort. Prices fell again. That tweet was deleted. The White House denied it. So they're stabilizing at around$90 a barrel. there's a desperation now that the war will come to an end soon. The problem is that disruption is likely to last longer than traders expect.
3:54Rosie Blau:So what are the options in terms of keeping supplies steady and in keeping markets steady?
4:01Rachana Shanbhogue:There are many things being discussed, Rosie. One of them, which is currently being discussed in talks hosted by the International Energy Agency, is releasing strategic stockpiles of oil. Members have about 1.2 billion barrels in emergency stocks that they hold. These could be released in order to offer temporary relief and to increase the supply on the market and bring down the price. In the past, when that's happened, it's had mixed results. In 2022, for instance, it sent the oil price rising because it sent a signal that officials thought that hostilities were going to last longer than markets had expected.
4:37Rachana Shanbhogue:But at other times, it's brought the price down. The other issue is, at best, only a drip feed of supply can be put onto the market because there are capacity constraints on how quickly piped oil can be put onto the market. America has to keep a minimum of 35 to 40 percent of today's stocks in the caverns where they're held to preserve the geological stability of them, for example. So at best, it might offer temporary relief. But if the war keeps carrying on, ultimately, it won't succeed in calming the market.
5:11Rosie Blau:As you said, there was discussion yesterday that maybe a ship had gone through the Strait of Hormuz. Is it a possibility that there may be some accompaniment, better protection of ships that they could then go through?
5:25Rachana Shanbhogue:The fundamental problem right now is that tankers do not want to cross the Strait of Hormuz because it's so dangerous. There have been reports of mine laying overnight, for example. And so a military escort could help in principle. Again, this is something that we've seen in the past. So in the 1980s, during the war between Iraq and Iran, there were naval escorts actually provided by America to Kuwaiti tankers. But the convoys were quite slow moving. There's so much traffic backed up in the strait right now that it would take years, actually, to get all of them through the strait if they were to proceed at the pace that we saw in the 1980s.
6:04Rachana Shanbhogue:And it may not be cost effective. The cost of providing an escort may actually be higher. This is something that I heard from an analyst yesterday than the cargo that they would be protecting. And these naval escorts would be sitting ducks if the Iranians wanted to target them. So what other options are there? The other thing that Donald Trump has already done, actually, is to make Russian oil easier for customers who want to buy it to buy. Now, Russia's oil is under sanctions. As you might remember, America had put a lot of pressure on India to stop buying a sanctioned Russian oil. Then as the war broke out, America issued a waiver so India can purchase some of that oil that's already at sea that's looking for a customer.
6:52Rachana Shanbhogue:And he's hinted that that waiver will remain in place for as long as the strait is closed. Now, there's a trade-off here, obviously. The intent of the West and of America has been to punish Vladimir Putin for his invasion of Ukraine and try and bring him to the table to talk peace. So allowing others to buy Russia's oil may offer relief to the market, but at the same time is going against a previous aim in the Ukraine war. So again, there's a trade-off here and Russian supply in any case can't fully solve the problem.
7:22Rosie Blau:So the war is already benefiting Putin. Are there other suppliers? America itself,
7:29Rachana Shanbhogue:of course, is a huge supplier of oil, the world's biggest producer, in fact. And its shell producers might have some ability to crank up output at very short notice. But these are private sector actors, and their investors have been burned before. Companies have over-invested in the past, oil prices have fallen, investors have taken a hit. So they're pretty canny, and they're not going to want to mandate huge increases in spending until they're sure that prices are going to stay high. And our colleagues calculate that the current supply problem because of the closure of the Strait of Hormuz amounts to something like 14 million barrels of oil a day when you include refined product.
8:10Rachana Shanbhogue:Shell producers, analysts estimate, can probably only increase their production by about 300 ,000 barrels a day.
8:17Rosie Blau:So we've already seen a huge effect of skyrocketing and volatile oil and gas prices. What about the other economic impacts of this war?
8:27Rachana Shanbhogue:What we know is that although since the 1970s economic activity is less oil intensive than it used to be, back then for example oil was used to generate electricity, now the demand for oil is much less elastic, by which I mean oil is used for things like driving and flying and those cannot be easily substituted away. So the only way to reduce that demand for oil is for prices to rise so high that it curbs people's activity. They decide they can't afford to drive, they decide they can't afford to fly. And so the knock-on consequences for people's daily lives and for economic activity is still big.
9:07Rachana Shanbhogue:We're seeing already that in Asia, for example, which has been hardest hit, governments are pushing four-day weeks. In Bangladesh, they've brought forward the Eid holidays just to reduce the consumption of fuel. So we're seeing the consequences of this already. And another thing to note is that the longer this disruption goes on for, the greater the consequences. So producers in the Gulf will have to cut back on their output. It's not easy to resume that output, even when hostilities end. It takes two to six weeks to get things up and running again. So it's not like things will go back to normal tomorrow.
9:42Rosie Blau:Rachna, we were talking yesterday to our deputy editor, Ed Carr, and he was talking about this trade-off between the war aims and the global economic impact. And we clearly saw Trump take fright at the global economic impact, or at least the US economic impact. How long is this disruption sustainable?
10:02Rachana Shanbhogue:The longer the disruption, the more it will feed through into gas prices, into the prices of everyday products that consumers buy. It will curb their activity and the things that they can do. The impact of the war in Ukraine on the Eurozone economy was something like 2.4 % of GDP over a year and a half. And the disruption to supply this time is much bigger. So you could start to see quite serious economic effects. And even before you get to that stage, we could see markets again start to freak out because once it sinks in that actually this disruption could last a long time, Donald Trump has said that he sees the war ending soon, but it's not only within his gift to end the war.
10:50Rachana Shanbhogue:And so expect Donald Trump to be presented with that trade-off again and again between the economic consequences on the one hand and achieving his aims on the other.
11:01Rosie Blau:Ratchna, thank you so much for talking to me.
11:03Rachana Shanbhogue:Thank you, Rosie.
11:06Rosie Blau:And you won't be surprised that our editors and correspondents have been discussing the economic fallout of the Iran conflict in many other forums too Do check out last night's episode of The Insider our video offering An Anatomy of the Oil Shock To watch that, you'll need to be a subscriber
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12:46Rosie Blau:As we've been hearing from Ratchna, many countries in Asia rely on oil and gas from the Middle East. Prime among them is Japan. Two-thirds of Japan's power is generated from fossil fuels. 90 % of the oil it uses is from the Gulf, and 10 % of its natural gas, all of which makes a long-running debate about the use of nuclear power there particularly pertinent and poignant.
13:10Andrew Miller:The Kashiwazaki Kariwa nuclear power plant sits on Japan's northern coast, facing the Sea of Japan. When all of its seven reactors are running, it's the largest nuclear power station in the world. But for the last 15 years, it's been sitting idle.
13:28Rosie Blau:Noah Snyder is our East Asia Bureau Chief.
13:32Andrew Miller:And that's because 15 years ago, exactly today, a massive earthquake struck northeast Japan, sending tsunami waters flooding the reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant and causing a catastrophic nuclear meltdown. That led all of Japan's nuclear power plants to be shut down. But now, Kashiwazaki Kariwa, like many other plants across the country, is stirring back to life.
14:04Andrew Miller:This February, the first of the plant's seven reactors restarted, and the company that operates it, the Tokyo Electric Power Company, hopes to begin full commercial operations, sending power to households in the capital of Japan later this month. And this might be just the beginning of a bigger revival of nuclear power.
14:29Rosie Blau:Noah, Japan's energy supplies have been debated hotly for the last 15 years. Just explain the full significance of restarting this plant.
14:38Andrew Miller:Yeah, this particular plant is especially symbolically charged. And that's because TEPCO, the company that operates it, is the same company that ran the Fukushima power plant. And Kashiwazaki Kariwa is its first nuclear plant to restart since then. So for boosters of nuclear power in Japan, it shows that this technology still has a future after Fukushima. This restart is a sign that there's a way forward for nuclear power more broadly. While for critics, for those who think the technology is simply too risky for an earthquake-prone archipelago, it marks an unwelcome return to an era of nuclear power.
15:19Andrew Miller:But I think mostly it speaks to the impasse that Japan's energy policy has come to. 15 years after Fukushima, we have a kind of a stalled build-out of renewables and an aging nuclear fleet that they're trying to get running again, an enduring dependence on imported fossil fuels. And the vulnerability of that has only become more acute and more obvious in the wake of the ongoing war in Iran and the ripples that's sending through global energy markets.
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15:50Rosie Blau:You talk about an impasse. How has that come about?
15:53Andrew Miller:A little bit of context is important here. Japan has struggled with energy policy for a very long time. Nuclear power seemed to be the kind of answer to Japan's energy conundrum, without resources of its own. It could potentially supply energy through nuclear power, and they built out a huge nuclear fleet. So before Fukushima, there were 54 reactors running in Japan providing around a quarter of the country's electricity, and the government hoped to expand that share. But after Fukushima, the public turned against nuclear power, and there were rightfully so really big questions about the regulatory regime and the oversight of nuclear power in Japan that kind of shut off a nuclear pathway for the time being.
16:42Rosie Blau:So where has Japan been getting energy from for the last 15 years?
16:46Andrew Miller:So the first move was essentially to transition away from nuclear power and towards renewables. But very quickly, the government and the power companies discovered that this was going to be a very hard thing to do, especially overnight. And so they did move fairly quickly to restart nuclear reactors after imposing stringent new restrictions and safety inspections and setting up a new regulator. But it has taken time and it's required sort of consent from local officials, from local populations to get these plants back up been running. So that too has not been an entirely smooth process. Japan now gets about a little under 10 % of its electricity from nuclear power, so significantly less than it did before Fukushima.
17:35Andrew Miller:They've been trying to bring energy consumption down by improving energy efficiency, but mainly what has happened is we've seen the gaps filled with more imported fossil fuels, more LNG, more oil, and more coal.
17:51Rosie Blau:So now the plan is to revive nuclear power. What exactly is going to happen?
17:56Andrew Miller:There has been a big turn in recent years, and it's accelerating under the current Prime Minister Takechi Sanaya, to really push for a restart of the nuclear power industry, the nuclear power sector more broadly, to get nuclear providing maybe about 20 % of the country's electricity by 2040 to get basically all of the existing reactors that are at a standstill up and running again, and also potentially to start building newer ones because the long-term math is really tricky. A lot of the reactors that are active now were built in the 1970s, 1980s, maybe 1990s, and their lifespans are not infinite, though they have been extended.
18:39Andrew Miller:When you get to the middle of this century, you're going to start having to retire old plants and bring new ones online. And since it takes sometimes decades to build these things, that means Japan needs to start doing so now. The government is putting a lot of support behind nuclear again. At the same time, it wants to keep supporting renewables, keep supporting other new technologies. It's sort of a catch-em-all strategy, if you will. But I think the danger is that by trying to do everything, you don't do any one thing particularly well.
19:08Rosie Blau:And Noah, how is the Japanese public reacting to the return of nuclear?
19:13Andrew Miller:Attitudes have shifted a lot in the last 15 years. Part of it is the passage of time and changing of generations as the memory of the Fukushima disaster recedes a bit into the distance. But part of it is also the changing global environment, both in terms of climate change, which of course has become a more and more palpable reality, including for people here in Japan. And the mayor in Kashiwazaki Kariwa, when I spoke to him, cited climate change as a big reason for agreeing to restart the nuclear plant. Of course, his community also benefits massively economically. There's also been a change in the global energy environment.
19:53Andrew Miller:I think the Japanese public has also become aware of just how vulnerable the country is if it continues to import most of its energy in a time of rising energy prices. Perhaps Japan can't afford to keep its nuclear plants shuttered. And finally, the power companies that run these plants and the regulators that oversee them have made efforts to try to improve safety and to invest in backup plans and to prepare for the worst-case scenarios. You can see that around the Kashiwazaki Kariwa plant itself, where there's a new 15-meter-high seawall to protect from tsunamis. But at the same time, there is still a lot of lingering doubt, a lot of mistrust, especially in local communities.
20:37Andrew Miller:And it's one thing to support the restart of nuclear power in the abstract, but it's quite another to support restarting a nuclear power plant in your backyard.
20:48Rosie Blau:Noah, thank you very much.
20:50Andrew Miller:Thank you for having me.
21:14Noah Sneider:When you are interrogated at Avin prison in Tehran, recalls Jafar Panahi, you are blindfolded and placed on a chair facing a wall.
21:24Rosie Blau:Andy Miller writes our backstory column.
21:27Noah Sneider:The interrogators are behind you and you answer their disembodied questions on paper, lifting the blindfold to write. Their voices are the only way you can know them, Panahi told me. The political prisoner starts wondering, are they young? Are they old? Panahi is one of Iran's best-known filmmakers. I spoke to him just before the latest war with Iran began. He's been locked up twice by its embattled regime and he drew on those experiences in It Was Just An Accident, a film that's up for two Oscars this weekend and which won the top prize at last year's Cannes Film Festival.
22:15Noah Sneider:War has made the film's theme of moral reckoning fiercely urgent.
22:24Noah Sneider:It's a haunting movie and it and Panahi's career dramatize, it seems to me, the eternal standoff between artists and authoritarians. It's an unequal contest, camera and pen against bullet and noose, but not in the way it might seem. In this movie, a family's car breaks down after hitting a dog. Vahid, a local laborer, suspects that the driver is the goon who tortured him behind bars. But to make certain, he kidnaps, binds and gags the man in his van and seeks confirmation from other survivors, among them a woman posing for wedding photos in her dress. To identify him, this crew rely on the squeak of his artificial leg, the tang of his sweat and the contours of his skin, traces of the gruesome, sightless intimacy between torturer and victim.
23:18Noah Sneider:The result is a visceral thriller, driven by the twin mysteries of whether this ragtag gang have got the right man and what they would choose to do with him. This film is an inquiry into responsibility and justice under or after tyranny. How much can an individual be blamed and how much blame belongs to the system? It's also, in the end, a hopeful film because it imagines a time of judgment in Iran, perhaps one that will come sooner than it once seemed.
23:54Noah Sneider:As Panahi put it to me just before the war the central question in the film is shall we stop the cycle of violence or shall we allow it to continue?
24:08Noah Sneider:In the story when they're outside the city in a desert for instance Fahid and his comrades are safe but when they start carting a kidnap torture around Tehran it's much riskier. This quirky odyssey that the characters undertake reflects the peril of Panahi's crew and actors when they were making the film.
24:32Noah Sneider:They shot the passages in the desert first, he told me, from behind his signature dark glasses, plus the interiors. Only then did they tackle the more exposed street scenes, which the police duly interrupted. Panahi, though, is used to improvising. As well as his months-long stints in prison, which included a spell in solitary confinement and a hunger strike, he has in the past been banned from travelling abroad and forbidden from making movies. In response, with ingenious defiance, he shot a film in his flat and called it This Is Not A Film. He drove a taxi around the city, recording the passengers inside it, and the result was the inimitable Taxi Tehran.
25:18Noah Sneider:Panahi says of the prohibitions he's faced, you either look for alternative work or you find a way to continue. If you're determined to keep going, he said, the solution comes to you. Sticking with his medium has been a message in itself. It's a way of standing up to power, he told me. This resilience and enterprise may soon be called on again. He's been out of the country for several months, and during his absence, Panahi has been sentenced to a year in prison. Again. The recent slaughter of protesters showed that the regime has reached a dead end, he thinks. In any case, if people want to stop him making movies, that's their problem, not mine.
26:06Noah Sneider:I've made my choice, he told me. If you stop to think about it, Past efforts to thwart Panahi have not only failed but backfired, his punishments transmuted on screen into drama and dignity. After all, if he hadn't been sent to Evin prison, I may never have made this film, he told me. With all their tools of repression, in this unequal struggle with the artist, the strongmen are doomed.
26:41Thank you.
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From the publisher
Overnight, the Pentagon said it “eliminated” 16 Iranian mine-laying ships, raising further jitters about the global impact of the war in Iran. Fifteen years after a tsunami caused the Fukushima nuclear disaster, Japan is restarting reactors. And our correspondent meets Jafar Panahi, the Iranian director whose film is nominated for two Oscars this weekend.
Guests and host:
- Rachana Shanbhogue, business and finance editor
- Noah Sneider, East Asia bureau chief
- Andrew Miller, “Back Story” columnist
- Rosie Blau, host of “The Intelligence”
Topics covered:
- Iran, oil prices, Donald Trump, Strait of Hormuz, Brent crude, International Energy Agency, Russia
- Japan, nuclear, Fukushima, tepco
- Oscars, “It Was Just An Accident”, Jafar Panahi
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