


5 Mar 2026 · 53m · 30 chapters

Marine Léonardi, a French humorist and social-media creator, discusses why she films extremely close to the camera, how constant body commentary shaped her self-image, and her evolving relationship with beauty, aging, and cosmetic interventions (makeup, Botox, skincare routines, LED masks). She also reflects on social-media filters and the anxiety they can trigger in herself and her daughters, including fear of anorexia.
Marine Léonardi is a humorist/stand-up performer and online personality known for “the most famous nostrils” on social media. She previously worked in corporate roles, including at Shiseido, and is now focused on comedy and beauty/skin content.
Close-up filming is addictive because viewers want to see skin details; family and online comments created lifelong complexes; makeup can be empowerment; she’s cautious about commenting on celebrities’ surgeries; she uses skincare/LED in moderation and fears aging partly due to social-media comparisons.
comments about her “grandma shoes,” her family’s Italian-style physique remarks on an Insta video, references to Anna Hathaway/Cannes lighting, her LED mask routine (about 3x/week), and her daughters’ weight-monitoring anxiety.
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Marine discusses her choice to appear unfiltered and natural online.
“We can say that since the moment you're in this room, it's a bad thing.”
Marine reflects on her clothing choices and the reactions she receives.
“well, you'll take away the helmet, you'll explain why you'll take away the helmet.”
Discussion on the challenges of filming up close and personal.
They discuss their personal relationships with body image and societal pressure.
“When I dormais with a guy, I was waking up before him.”
Marine shares her adolescent experiences and struggles with self-image.
“You know, even the people who cut from the slime, or things like that.”
Conversation about the pressures of conforming to beauty standards in society.
“parce qu 'on n 'a jamais eu de problème d 'argent ou quoi, mais c 'était le côté où tu n 'as pas les codes.”
Discussion on cosmetic surgery and the myths surrounding beauty.
“C 'est ceux qui mordent en premier, en réalité.”
They explore themes of aging and acceptance regarding physical appearance.
“I looked at the photos of Jane Birkin and I was like, no, but it's too bad.”
Explore societal pressures around beauty and aging.
“C 'est aussi pour ça que je fais ce podcast, c 'est pour dire, on a aussi le droit, évidemment que ça nous intéresse toutes et que...”
Sharing personal stories related to self-image and the impact of compliments.
“But you see, for example, I think that I'm very well.”
Discussing how family comments shape body image perceptions.
“But you know, like what, we all have our new neuroses on that.”
Examining cultural influences on physical appearance and acceptance.
“a comment like Anastasia and Javotte devant my gueule.”
Discussing how makeup can be a source of empowerment.
“Et à un moment donné, ils parlent pendant, mais sur la vidéo qui fait une minute trente, il y a 45 secondes sur mon physique.”
Exploring the conversation around Botox and personal beauty choices.
“Tous ces petits fards à paupières, ces fards à joues.”
Reflecting on fears related to aging and how they impact self-acceptance.
“because we have a tendency as women in my family are going to be able to wear I'm going to wear a lot of cream but And so I have this big temptation, because I know the effects incredible that can have the Botox on...”
Discussing the shift from a corporate job to a creative career in beauty.
“the fear of living that I can have physically, it's just a sort of reliquat of this period where I didn't realize my dreams.”
Discussion on health, drinking habits, and personal reflections.
“but it's a bit of a good when you have this side the black on the lips the teint tern you know this thing the nana is not in good health and I said no and you drink?”
Journey from a corporate job to the beauty industry and its challenges.
“les gens disaient je veux bosser chez...”
Insights on working in cosmetics, product enthusiasm, and retail dynamics.
“Les ventes au personnel, laisse tomber, je devenais dingue.”
Discussion on skincare routines, personal preferences, and product effectiveness.
“I have to say that they don't make me prefer.”
Debate about retinol effectiveness and personal skincare experiences.
“the peau, the appearance, I'm not going to do this podcast, and I'm kind of, how we call it, hypochondriaque, I'm going to be in the way auprès of my dermato.”
Conversations about aging, skin quality, and societal pressures.
“And I'll get to convince myself that it's better.”
Exploration of body image issues and the role of social media in shaping perceptions.
“It's that which is what I'm going to do.”
Discussion on the fear of anorexia, mental health, and raising children in today's environment.
“tu vois, quand je me filme de près et tout, je me dis que c 'est en totale cohérence avec ce que j 'ai envie de donner comme message.”
Navigating feelings around weight and the impact on self-image and family.
“But it's something where we had to do the reflection with my husband.”
Exploration of personal paradoxes in beauty standards and acceptance.
“the beau gusse and they said you know you know and you know the Nana but she's not at all like all the specials specials round or I don't know and they're a girl who makes a 38 or positive bodies with a...”
Exploration of personal insecurities and societal expectations about body image.
“Donc, c 'était l 'après-midi, on avait bien mangé, donc boum, le bide sort assez fort.”
Discussion about the pressure of conforming to beauty standards and personal experiences.
“Mais toi, certainement, si tu regardes des photos de toi il y a 15 ans, tu avais l 'œil moins creux.”
Conversation about various beauty products and personal experiences with them.
“Parce que mon mec était là, mais tu n 'as pas lu l 'énoncé.”
Insights into the guest's career and current projects, including promotional content.
“I'm a little bit in the bottom and there, but not on the thing of the ride.”

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1:17For this first episode of En Apparence, I invite the humorist who cartoon on the scene in this moment, but who has also, without a doubt, the most famous narines of the social media. She's filming at 2 cm of her phone. I don't know how you do it. Hello, Marine Leonard. Hello, Nora. How do you go? I'm so happy to be here I'm really happy The first podcast But I'm happy Maybe he'll never see But we'll never see But we'll see We'll be able to pass A wonderful moment Exactly I'm happy to say That this podcast is filmed And I'm happy to say For those people Who watch us And who would already be Tentered already To comment on our physique She's fresh She's less fresh She's not fresh She's bright She's cerned She's fatiguated It's normal To be débordered I've made the choice Really A choice How could I say it A choice A choice A choice A choice A choice A choice A choice A choice A choice A choice but that I find rather engaged, ethically, to be a-dé-maquillé.
2:07We're not maquillé, Marie. We're not maquillé. We can say that since the moment you're in this room, it's a bad thing. Well, we're all, we're all, we're all, we're all, we're all, we're all, we're all, we're all, we're all, we're all, we're all, well, two things, on m 'a quand même déjà, ça fait genre, bon, là, t 'es arrivée il y a au moins une demi-heure dans ce studio, on va pas se mentir. Tu m 'as parlé du fait that you were going to take away the grandma. You told me, I'll take away the helmet, but I said, well, you'll take away the helmet, you'll explain why you'll take away the helmet. Of course.
2:37In fact, I just told you, when I bought it, I thought it was an excellent idea, this kind of illusion, this sort of thing, and there, to have accessorized with a chemise, really, I have the impression of having 103 years. But it's extremely hot and comfortable, so I'm in the dilemma. So, you wear, in fact, these shoes... I'm very chemised and normally I put a damar in the middle for sure that my husband doesn't hurt me. I put the things Uniclo E-Tech. Yes, of course. They are all in the middle. I'm very perturbated. I put a chemise with a ring in the middle. I put a helmet on the floor. But not like a chemise d 'hommes.
3:17When you say chemise d 'hommes, it's like that. I would like to stop wearing some shoes of bobon. but I got a kind of a pulse which leads me to the and the last time I was not I had no idea I had no idea and someone commented that it's good that she's going to put these affreuses shoes of grandma so you read the comments I read the comments yes because I haven't a lot of on the chronicles so I read because you know the chronicles it can be a lot of comments on a video but the chronicles there are 15-20 and I look at if someone has put you are going to eat a dinghy I don't know I verify and often it's comments on my physique of course you told me that you like me we know because we have already dinner together we have already talked about beauty skin routine we have already exchanged the address of who it was going to see who is the guru who is I don't know but at the same time you arrive at filming at 2 cm of the face which is sincerely it it it In fact, it's me asking because I'm wondering that I have an enormous problem.
4:26It's already a step. I don't know if it was a step. When I dormais with a guy, I was waking up before him. Well, of course. And especially for a piece of paper. No, I don't have a problem on the fact of leaving the caisse. But it's a dermis, it's a glow. I don't know yet. I don't know yet. I was going to say in public. But you know how you're going to get the thing from the social media and how you look at it? It's funny this story of filming very close because it would be hypocrite to say but I'm not sure I'm not sure but it was because I don't see it so I like it when I take the portable of my friend the first example that comes to me is when I take the portable of my friend pour l 'espionner.
5:19Tu sais, je me le colle. Quand je prends un journal, je me le colle. Et donc, j 'ai ce truc naturel de coller mon portable à mon visage. Et en plus, j 'aime bien, tu vois, quand je vois des vidéos de femmes et tout, je zoome, j 'aime bien voir les détails de la peau. Enfin, ça m 'excite. Je dois avoir un côté fou avec ça, tu vois. Et donc, je m 'étais dit, les gens vont kiffer voir quelqu 'un de près. Tu sais, c 'est un peu comme quand tu regardes des tutos maquillage. Mais complètement. Mais ça, I didn't know that I didn't know. But it was a friend who told me, what I said, but you did well, at the time where you came up, I told you there was still this new woman who comes to fill our room.
5:54And she told me, I'm a little accro. She told me, but I'm a look at her. And I told you, in fact, you have a little bit ASMR. You know, even the people who cut from the slime, or things like that. And I told you, in fact, you're so close to a thing where your face, when you move, it's pretty, it's pretty addictive. It's addictive, but for the nanas, they hate it. It's an enormous push-up. There are plenty of people who have told me, even my friends, I would like to watch your videos, but you're too close, it's a big day. So I think it's a thing for the nanas. You know, we love it. I don't know if you have that too, with your gamin, but my wife, I love to watch them from près.
6:32I touch them, I feel like I'm going to see them. I feel like I'm going to touch them. And my wife, he doesn't have this rapport to my wife. And I think there's a thing for my mom, also to see the details of the people you know I'm going to tell you at that moment you arrive at accept because for the coup on scene I think you're when I'm rather I'm going to say I'm going to say you're not in a ball but you're still you're still you're still you're still well after personally I don't know how to say it I don't know so fishing for compliments but I'm not sure but I'm never I'm never in the category jolie fille so I have a little this thing with my physique of all on not wait there so when I'm filming like that, I was like, I'm going to be putu for putu, I'm not going to be called for Victoria's Secret, I'm not so I'm going to get a little bit of it.
7:18I have still the hope, but I still have I still have to be angry at the end of the day. But you know, sometimes I know that the day comes, I'm going to say, we'll see if they have more big than me. They don't have any more big than you? No, of course not. You have very big. No, no, really, they have more big than me, Nora. They have really big. They have probably some more big than you. But you know, it's all something that I'm interested in. Quand tu dis « moi, je ne me suis jamais considérée comme la belle fille », c 'est -à-dire que tu plaisais aux garçons, quel rapport tu avais à toi, ton image adolescente ?
7:47Adolescente, moi, j 'ai eu un corset, ce qui fait que j 'avais des vêtements très XXXXL. Et puis, après, comme tout le monde, là, pareil pour les dents. Moi, je viens d 'une famille classe moyenne et tout. Et je trouve que la façon dont ça s 'exprimait le plus, parce qu 'on n 'a jamais eu de problème d 'argent ou quoi, mais c 'était le côté où tu n 'as pas les codes. J 'étais dans un bon collège avec des enfants de la petite bourgeoisie de Metz. Et tu sais, les nanas sans effort, elles sont déjà trop mimes et tout. Et toi, tu es là, tu galères. Tu crois qu 'en t 'achetant une paire de converses, ça va résoudre tous les problèmes de ta vie et tu ne ressembles à rien avec ta paire de converses.
8:19Et moi, j 'ai traîné ça pendant longtemps. Ou en tout cas, c 'est peut -être le fait de ne pas se sentir forcément bien dans ses pompes. Mais je crois que c 'est à ce moment-là, évidemment, que j 'ai un peu développé encore plus mon côté drôle et tout. Mais je trouve que quand tu ne te mets pas dans une case de la jolie fille à l 'adolescence, c 'est un peu plié pour la vie entière. And it's you who didn't put it in this case or you had the feeling, is it still at the time where the girls, for example, were doing classes I was feeling like that It was quite concrete also, that in these famous classes, I was never in the top 3 I was quite a little I was Italian it was a critic of my arms but I had this moment of anesthesia where I was going to get because I was going to tell you, what do you want to do I have a corset I was going to get a lot The girls and the arms and the poils and the things to the adolescent.
9:06It's a terrible thing. I remember that I had a man who had released this rumor on me that I was going to be tattooed on my own, although it's just that I didn't have any rapport to the 90s. It's incredible. It didn't exist even the tattoo for the hair? His mother had the tattooed on my own, but at the time, they were a little violets. They were really... I don't know what it was. It was a little bit of a a little violets. I found it hallucinant because this garçons à l 'époque n 'avaient rien pour plaire, n 'étaient pas très sympathiques, pas jolis, méchants. Ils faisaient la loi. Et en fait, ils se permettaient des trucs.
9:47Et en effet, je me souviens, j 'ai plein de souvenirs de trucs comme ça, où des gens qui te parlent de ta moustache. Et tu te dis, mais avec ta gueule, ni fait ni à faire, tu te permets des commentaires. Et pour autant, c 'est ceux qui osent le plus. C 'est ceux qui mordent en premier, en réalité. Donc, comme ils sont agressifs dans la façon qu 'ils ont commenté le physique, souvent le physique des femmes, après, ils sont considérés comme les gars un peu cools de la classe. Et pour eux, ils ont une tête de chips. Mais limite, tu finis par envisager de t 'épiler les bras pour cette espèce d 'énorme tocard.
10:17Je l 'ai fait. Tu ne l 'as pas fait ? Je ne l 'ai pas fait. Je les ai blondis. Ah oui. Alors moi, je me suis blondie. Je me suis blondie la moustache à une époque. Donc vraiment, j 'avais genre Patrick Juvet qui habitait au-dessus de ma lèvre, ce qui était vraiment une bonne idée. Après, je les ai enlevés à l 'électricité, mes poils. because it's not that for the people who listen to us, the coloration apparently active the pousse of the hair. The coloration blonde ? Yes, the coloration, you know, like Jolene, I don't know what, apparently it's active the pousse. I stopped and really, I live very correctly with...
10:49I'm going to put my glasses on the way. No, but... Well, you don't have a mustache. No, but vitave, you know, but really, it's not a thing, this mustache. But is there still a thing that is? Well, honestly, no. Masculose. Yeah I really She's got to see When I'm at Walp Or when I'm at the beach I'm a bit in control I'm trying to hold But it's a bit of a second And then I'm a kind of You're liable to the corset Don't you talk about it Yes The corset Arrête the evolution Of the scolose But if I had the corset I'd be in a car You know But yes I'm not at all With my dog You know Even when there's a tournage You know The little tournage HMC Don't I was talking about it They wanted to film my dog I was like Yes Yes Yes Yes Because in fonction Of the angle And all So yeah Escalo, ça reste un truc pour moi.
11:34Mais c 'est à peu près tout. Mes seins, ça dépend. Dans ton spectacle, tu dis un truc qui est merveilleux sur tes seins. Je n 'aime pas si tu es exactement, mais c 'est presque exactement, parce qu 'on le vend toujours plus mal. Mais en gros, tu dis deux lobes qui auraient porté des boucles d 'oreilles trop lourdes. Et je trouve l 'image vraiment parfaite, parce que je vois très bien ce truc. Tu as le bout de chair qui... Complètement. Mes seins, aujourd 'hui, j 'ai mis du temps à me dire pourquoi je ne les aime plus. before they were little but it was not too complex and then I said it was several years that I didn't even know and I said in my head that it was really related to grossness and that the second was a void but like you don't have already not a lot of base, you don't have a gaffe and then I said but they are little now and I have the feeling of having this thing of two ballons of anniversaries who have to be filled with you know so I had my phase last year where I was really let's go I was going to make sure I was going to put And then it was rep passed.
12:31I looked at the photos of Jane Birkin and I was like, no, but it's too bad. It's Jane Birkin, it's too bad. Yes, of course. And you were all just to train you. Yes, I started. There was a guy super, Park Monceau, who did the thing with the muscles. He was supposed to make a mal of a chicken, I think. Mal of a chicken. No, it was passed. It was because, for the sake of the fact, I was very fine from the haut. And I was surprised to say, I hope I don't look at these women on the beach. You know, they are on the floor. with the... You know, the bras, the steel steel steel, but two enormous pastakes.
13:01You would have a good to not put in front of two enormous... But it's not said that I would not want to be able to do the operation with a real pair of nibbards. Because everyone said you can put in a little bit. I'm like, meh, I don't want to put in 5 ,000 balles and a convalessence of an enfer for having some things that you don't have noticed that I have made. There's a lifting also, I was teaching. I was teaching I was teaching on that. But on told you you're a tall one. And I said, ah, no. Ah, no? Bah oui Je ne sais pas, je n 'ai pas techniquement Un jour j 'inviterai un médecin sur ce podcast Qui nous racontera tout Est-ce que toi aussi tu regardes les chirurgiens sur Insta Qui commentent les opérations de Star ?
13:34Oui mais d 'ailleurs je me dis C 'est passionnant et je me dis Est-ce qu 'on devrait entretenir ça parce que je me dis Que en fait un jour ça va arriver sur nous Parfois j 'ai vraiment l 'impression qu 'ils commentent Du... Déjà de toute façon il faut que les gens arrêtent de commenter Oui pardon c 'est horrible Non parce que t 'as le droit, parce que nous on a le droit de le faire les gens ont le droit de parler. En fait, on a le droit en mangeant des frites, de se dire « Putain, elle est trop belle, tu crois qu 'elle l 'a fait quoi ? » On l 'a fait, je me souviens très bien du dernier dîner qu 'on a fait ensemble, où tu m 'as dit « T 'as pas vu Anna Taoué au dernier défilé ?
14:01» Et je t 'ai dit « Mais attends, on avait juste les cheveux, on découvre tous des trucs. » Bien sûr. C 'est aussi pour ça que je fais ce podcast, c 'est pour dire, on a aussi le droit, évidemment que ça nous intéresse toutes et que... Surtout sur les nanas, typiquement Anna Taoué, après c 'est son droit le plus strict de ne pas communiquer sur les opérations qu 'elle a pu faire. Mais c 'est des nanas qui, du coup, ne vieillissent pas. Nous, ça nous file des complexes. Donc, je trouve ça assez sain de verbaliser. Mais qu 'est-ce qui se passe avec Anathaway qui est en train de nous faire une Benjamin Button ?
14:27Et c 'est sain de dire « Meuf, t 'inquiète, elle a fait une opération, c 'est quasiment sûr. » Ou... Alors oui, je pense sans doute qu 'elle a fait des trucs, mais elle avait peut -être aussi des tirettes. Moi, l 'autre jour, j 'étais à la Cannes, j 'avais vraiment appris ce truc où j 'étais là, genre, tu sais, j 'étais devant la glace
14:47I was going to get rid of the tiret. And he said, we're going to get rid of the tiret. It's going to get rid of the hair. And I was like, it's amazing. It's amazing. No one had told me to get rid of the tiret. Partout. But you see, for example, I think that I'm very well. I think that I'm doing this guy. I'm doing that. But for example, I think also that... Because I've seen a lot of times photos. The other day, I had a wife who told me, I said, you saw, at Molière, I was so beautiful. I was looking at it. You were very, very beautiful. Well, thanks. At the end of the day, I was a fan. You were a fan.
15:21Thank you. And one of my friends told me, I thought I was a fan of the photo. I thought it was completely done. But I was surprised to see you in real. Because in fact, there it was. And I said, well... And in fact, there's a photo that I have, that I posted on the réseau. And I saw very well why. But in fact, the light, the glow, the overline and all, and you're there. Well, the people in fact, are also a little gaffe. They're in the moment of the time in which we live. We're on the sur-light, on the skin. On the skin. But then you can do a makeup which is perfect for the TV. Yeah. You see, it's also a case for the Molière.
15:48It's-is that you have to do a makeup which makes it perfect for the TV. And if you take a picture of a close, you see the makeup a little bit. But it's also that there was a light like that. So all my hair had been écrasé. There was a kind of glow. I said, well, I'm not like that in real. Bien sûr. There's nothing to have. But it's horrible because if someone said, oh, I thought you were perfect. I think, in fact, I would say, oh, compliment déguisé. We're really mad. But you know, like what, we all have our new neuroses on that. You would have taken it like a compliment. But the way it was so good that I heard it was done.
16:19I was like, but it's my way from that. It's my way from that. What rapport have your parents in physique? Is it been complimented? No, I have parents... Well, my parents, not more compliments than that. They don't care. But, cool also. Sains. Si mon père, tu sentais qu 'il pouvait nous faire quelques petites remarques à ma sœur et moi. C 'était l 'époque, parce que ça a semblé extrêmement problématique. Mais plus sur, il faut faire du sport, il faut être en bonne santé physique. Attention les filles, parce qu 'il aurait rêvé d 'avoir un fils aussi. Je vois qu 'il court derrière le ballon. Mais bon, le sport à la limite, il peut dire rien.
16:56Donc quand il nous voyait Avachia avec des paquets de chips sur le canap, il pouvait avoir des remarques qui aujourd 'hui passeraient limite pour des remarques un peu grossophobes. Mais bon, en même temps, ma sœur et moi n 'ayant pas de vrais problèmes de poids. on s 'en foutait, tu vois. Mais c 'est vrai que, bon, il y avait un commentaire décomplexé sur le physique dans ma famille italienne, mais du côté des femmes, parce que italienne, donc c 'était commenté H24. Le physique ? H24. Comme chez moi. Mais en fait, dans les cultures méditerranéennes, pardon de la généralité, donc ma mère, typiquement, un jour, j 'ai pris ma tante et ma mère entre quatre yeux, j 'aurais hurlé dessus, j 'aurais dit, écoutez, c 'est simple, là, j 'ai 25 ans, donc je vais à Paris.
17:31Quand je rentre à Metz, je sais que je vais me faire screener les 5-10 premières minutes et que vous allez en tirer les conclusions de toute ma vie. of is it I have a guy, is it I baize, is it I'm going to be able to do it, is it I'm going to be able to do it, it's just that it's just that there are days where I have a bad guy and that doesn't mean that I'm at the bottom of the sea. It's to say that she was a comment like Anastasia and Javotte devant my gueule. It's like, ah, you've seen the little girl, it's not possible. And in plus, sometimes it was because I could enter from a day to the sun where I was a good mind, but in fact, I was going to make me feel like.
18:01But like you were jolie, it's not possible. And I have a mother, I remember I was always going to say, I was 7-8 years old. And I said, maman, maman, is that I'm the most beautiful ? And she said, no. And it was a marked. And I don't know, at this time, if she had a reason or not to tell me the truth. Because, obviously, I'm not a lot of my daughter. When they say, maman, is that I'm not the best? But you think that it's the most beautiful, no? That you're there. But are you not the most beautiful? I think very, very, very beautiful. But I'm very, very beautiful. But it's a matter of asking. I'm asking, is that my mother had a such a problem?
18:34Is that I'm not beautiful? When I saw the photos, I said, you're not a fofold, but well. But in fact, it's her mother's mother's side of the woman who spoke for it. Because in fact, when we answer this question, it's the mères who respond. It's not a thing of physique. It's not an amour who responds. Exactly. In fact, you're not the most beautiful. Because you know, I don't know if you've noticed. So, I've grown in a family who commented a lot of physique. And even today, I do TV. I have the reflex of calling my mother to tell me, you've seen it, you've found it. comment ? Mais quand je dis tu m 'as trouvé comment ?
19:06J 'attendais qu 'elle me réponde du physique. Et elle sait, elle répond celui-là. Oui, elle va me dire ah bah j 'ai trouvé que t 'étais bien maquillée. Mais j 'ai posté une vidéo comme ça sur Insta de Noël 2024 où on entend toute ma famille, on parle de choses et d 'autres parce que je voulais que les gens captent un peu la vibe italienne de ma famille que je trouve quand même assez rigolote. Et à un moment donné, ils parlent pendant, mais sur la vidéo qui fait une minute trente, il y a 45 secondes sur mon physique. Du genre, mais c 'est à vous, Qu 'est-ce qu 'ils t 'avaient fait donc ? Je t 'ai pas reconnu.
19:34Mais attends, mais c 'est des professionnels dans ces cas-là. Mais tu sais, en plus, ils ne connaissent pas le milieu parisien. Mais c 'est des pros. Mais genre, ah oui. Et il y a un moment qui dit, oh, mais des artistes. C 'est vraiment des artistes. Genre comme si vraiment, il avait le ravalement de façade. Le ravalement, tu vois. C 'est terrible. Moi, je sais que quand j 'ai commencé sur la télé à l 'époque, je pense sur Canal, au Grand Journal. En plus, moi, j 'étais méga complexée. Parce que pour moi, je ne sais pas comment toi, toi, tu as six ans de moins que moi. So maybe it was a little bit more for me, Canal, it was the Miss Météo, the bombs, the chicha, the cinema.
20:04It was so. I said, you're going to get a lot of shoes, you're going to put a lot of shoes, you're going to put a sweatshirt, and you're not going to comment on my physique. It was really... It was really nice, it was... But it's a point where, in plus, it's... It's a prison. Yeah, I remember one time where Léla Bechti was invited to the show on the Grand Journal, and my mother told me, you're not a merit. I said, it's not me, I'm not a person. And I said, ah... And so I said, it's a fool. But my mother is a sublime. I love it. If she listens to this episode, I don't know how she will live it. In all of a sudden, she is very beautiful.
20:32She has a very beautiful beard. But she is very beautiful. You are very beautiful, Nora. I can tell you. Thank you very much. It's a great thing. You also are very beautiful. And I was like, I don't know if it was that with your mom. But I felt that my mom, where it was not going to be a bad intention, even if it was obviously the way, I have two girls. I don't want to be judged by society. So I have to send them the first one to take into consideration my remarks. Oh, that's it. You see this? To prepare a little. Yeah, wait, I'm going to get your physique and sometimes it's full, but if it's not me, it's going to be your neighbor's house.
21:03It's going to be... And you'll be happy. I'm your mother. No one's ever more than me. It's good to tell you the truth of the image that you send. But in reality, it's not at all what you need to do. But it was a time like that. Completely. The world is hard. I don't want to be able to do it. We're also educated like that at the college. We'll see you later, later, later. You'll have the impression that later it'll be atrocious while later it'll be also great. And especially, it can't be worse than college. Yeah, it's not... Do you remember your first makeup that you bought at college or the first time you had to wear it or the first time you had to wear it?
21:33I remember that I was in the fifth grade and my professor of history me says, listen, you're wearing a little too late, a little bit. I'm talking to your parents. And I looked at it and I said, I love to wear it. So it's been marked to me say, OK, so I'm already wearing a fifth grade since I had this remark. I don't have to say, dit. Aujourd 'hui, ça me paraît très prématurique que mes filles se maquillent en cinquième. Et moi, non seulement je me maquillais, donc ça veut dire que j 'ai dû me maquiller dès la sixième, mais c 'est que ma mère l 'encourageait. Je me souviens très bien de ma mère qui me disait tiens, pince tes pieds si tu veux t 'épiler les sourcils.
22:07Alors, je n 'étais pas maquillée à la truelle non plus, mais ma mère aimait bien que je mette un petit peu de blush, un peu de mascara et que sa fille soit fraîche pour aller à l 'école. Aujourd 'hui, je me dis est-ce que les filles... Alors oui, en effet, moi je vois les ados pardon, on n 'était pas maquillé comme ça non plus il y a des moments des ados, t 'as l 'impression que c 'est de suivre des tutos de make-up et même sur la skin routine, moi j 'ai une amie qui me parlait de sa fille ado et elle me disait mais c 'est génial elle s 'occupe de sa peau mieux que moi aujourd 'hui, je disais mais bon je suis pas sûre que ce soit très bon enfin, faut vérifier les produits tu sais pas ce que tu mets sur la peau, les trucs endocriniens je sais pas quoi, les perturbateurs et tout c 'est tôt moi le maquage, je me souviens vraiment parfaitement de ses premiers blushs body shop, de ses premiers baumes à lèvres qui sentent bon des débits à la cerise et tout Bourgeois, exactly.
22:49Tous ces petits fards à paupières, ces fards à joues. Et tu avais quel âge ? Je pense que j 'ai acheté mes premiers blushs en cinquième aussi. Et après, j 'étais abonnée au Club des Créateurs de Beauté. Je passe tout le temps de ce truc-là. J 'avais vraiment le rouge à l 'évranie SB, beige métal rosé. J 'avais vraiment le souci de tous les rêves. J 'adorais, mais moi j 'adore ça le maquillage. Après, pour le coup, je trouve que le maquillage, c 'est une source d 'empowerment incroyable. C 'est pour ça que j 'avais fait une vidéo recently, which is a of course, a relayed by a surgeon so she has recognized a certain notoriety.
23:26It's my friend, and it's a very good phrase that I tell my wife, it's if you do the Botox, I can't let you go. Literally, the only reason for which I can't let you So, in the end, I don't know. You're going to have the hand lourde. It's like if he wanted to know and see what I'm saying. And in the video, I found it cute. And in the end, I think it's a paradoxical remark. We do what we want. You know. he doesn't have control on my body if I'm not with the Botox I'm not with the Botox the Botox has allowed to feel good in their skin the makeup also and it's been homage to all these techniques after free to have a recourse or not you've already tried?
24:02no but I think that's not going to because we have a tendency as women in my family are going to be able to wear I'm going to wear a lot of cream but And so I have this big temptation, because I know the effects incredible that can have the Botox on... But you can also detest the sensation. I tried to try it on the front, and in the same time, I'm completely wrong, I pay a blind eye while I have a frange. And so it's not a problem. And you have the chance to have a face to a frange. But my dream, it's a question of nez. No, but not at all, I'm not at all. This podcast is going to be very long.
24:35No, a face to a frange, it's not a chance. It's a thing that you have to comb. When I'm in the winter, I'm going to say « Oh là là, tu es bien sans frange ? » Je me dis « Ah, en fait, c 'est un vrai compliment. J 'ai l 'impression que j 'enlève ma frange, j 'ai l 'impression qu 'on m 'a enlevé ma perruque. J 'ai l 'impression d 'être chauve, d 'impression d 'être un homme. Tout le monde, pour moi, est plus beau avec une frange s 'il avait le nez adéquat. J 'adore les théories hyper précises. C 'est évident que la frange, c 'est flatteur. Donc, forcément, oui, entre guillemets, tu es plus belle avec une frange, mais c 'est tellement rare d 'avoir le visage qui tolère la frange.
25:02Et pour moi, c 'est une question de nez, de comment le nez est foutu. Moi, j 'ai un nez un peu... J 'adore mon nez. Nez qui me complexait évidemment beaucoup, beaucoup à l 'adolescence. Et maintenant, je trouve que je ne pourrais pas être... Mais à quel moment tu passes dans un nez où tu es complexée à l 'adolescence à un moment où tu l 'aimes ? Mais je pense que mon nez prenait plus de place sur mon visage aussi à l 'adolescence, tu vois. Factuellement, c 'est -à-dire que je pense qu 'à l 'adolescence, il y a un espèce... Ça, c 'est très important. Il y a des ados qui nous écoutent. Non, c 'est vrai.
25:27You don't have the definitive proportions of your face. No.
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26:38So I saw the years that I had to be able to get married. I was happy to be young people who have 20 years and who have still this possibility of doing cinema. I had the impression that I had left the coach. So I was going to be able to get married with young people, to have a fear of being here. And I don't know if today, the fear of living that I can have physically, it's just a sort of reliquat of this period where I didn't realize my dreams. Because sometimes when I take a look at my I'm thinking, but what a joy of living in reality. And is it not you prefer not a thousand times more today?
27:07Yes, yes. So I feel like it's a fear of living that I could completely soothe very easily. And I think that it's a little liable to the fact that I'm a lot on social media. So I see these kind of nanas who don't live in, it's a question. I was thinking, is there something that I do wrong? I had a little bit of a coffee because I had the impression that I had the lips of the yellow. It's more things that I have good or bad health. Today, I don't want to have a body where people say, they're in bad health. You're very sane. Well, that's better. But I've stopped to fumer and everything for that. The only reason is the aesthetic.
27:44A lot of beauty. Really. Because I love to fumer. I love the clope. It's horrible. I don't have a problem for reasons of health. but it's that's the first one I did because I didn't want to have the stigmates the yellows, I started to have the yellows the yellows, the yellows and I said it's not grave to vieillir but it's a bit of a good when you have this side the black on the lips the teint tern you know this thing the nana is not in good health and I said no and you drink? I don't have to drink at all at all look at the water it's horrible I'm forced I don't want to drink so I think because of the way I'm going to drink.
28:22You have a problem with cystic? It will be for my season 2. I've heard of it. Is it related to that? Of course. Maybe. I've never done it. I've never done it. I was going to drink. It was OM. I'm going to be out. I'm not going to drink. I'm not going to drink. You have a lot of things that I'm interested in. On your life before, you were corporate. You were at Shiseido. I don't know how to say it. Is it you had a desire to be in beauty? Because it's when you're here. Like at the time when I was at the SELSA, les gens disaient je veux bosser chez... Non c 'était vraiment un hasard parce que quand j 'ai eu mon diplôme d 'école de commerce, à ce moment-là c 'était la mode de l 'immobilier commercial, s 'il te plaît ils avaient réussi cet exploit de dire aux gens il faut absolument vendre des bureaux des locaux de bureaux, donc tout le monde avait foncé là-dedans moi la première et j 'ai fait 4 ans là-dedans et j 'en pouvais plus du secteur immobilier qui est extrêmement misogyne pardon pour la généralité encore, je veux vexer personne mais franchement moi à mon époque c 'était Qatar et du coup j 'ai un RH de la boîte dans la KGT C 'était Carrefour, on gérait le parc immobilier du groupe Carrefour Qui est parti chez Shiseido Et je lui exprime Mon exaspération du milieu Et il me dit mais tu sais quoi, vas-y viens Je te fais rencontrer ma DRH Elle va aimer ton énergie et tout Peut -être il y a un poste, peut -être pas Mais voilà, coup de cœur avec la DRH Elle m 'embauche Et je me retrouve un peu dans cette espèce D 'entreprise cosmétique à découvrir un secteur Un peu sur le tard, tu vois, parce que j 'avais déjà À ce moment-là, je sais pas 28, 29 ou même 30, ouais 28-29 ans souvent les gens qui bossent là ont fait ça depuis toujours tu sais viennent de L 'Oréal c 'est un monde hyper codifié le luxe et les cosmétiques et je me découvre je découvre ce secteur et quand même je dois dire c 'était assez sympathique d 'être au contact d 'un produit ah mais meuf c 'est pas que j 'avais des produits gratuits c 'est à dire que je pourchassais les RP dès que je voyais une clé qui traînait j 'ouvrais un placard pour voir si je pouvais prendre des crèmes j 'étais boulimique pour le coup des produits, du maquillage, de tout ça.
30:22Les ventes au personnel, laisse tomber, je devenais dingue. C 'est -à-dire que vraiment, mon mec, Alix, me disait, concrètement, tu viens juste de réinjecter ton salaire, ça n 'a aucun sens. J 'avais même aidé la boîte à monter le site de vente au personnel. À un moment donné, on m 'avait dit, ce serait bien que tu aies fait une mission en finance. J 'ai dit, non, moi, je vais monter le site parce que ça se faisait sur des Excel qui étaient tenus par des assistantes. C 'était compliqué pour elles, pour nous. and I said it's not possible that there's not a real site for the intern and the site when I was left was one of the most big deals it was also big I believe so much the people the people the salary they pay it's a very very nice brand but especially there's not that's there's there's Nars I love Nars Nars Rodriguez it's Miyake when I was there was Dolce Gabbana it was a little more complicated but But at the end of the makeup, it's a lot of...
31:21I have tested a lot of their masks. I have to say that they don't make me prefer. I'm going to tell you because we're not even sponsored. Masque Shiseido or Nars? No, Shiseido. I'm not at all. Ah, really? You're not at all? I'm not at all. In fact, I... There, I'm bought it because it's very bad. I'm not at all. I'm already bought it. I'm already met sous the eyes. So, it's a lot of stuff. Because as soon as I walk in my appart, it's going to be... It's true that it's going to be a little. So, the cost of the mask, it's a kind of a stretch. that I have a moment sacralisé where you put a little bit with your mask and I think I'm too hyper active.
31:51Ah ouais ? But you're never put in your canapes in order to scroll to the merde ? Evidently, all the time. So, you know, it doesn't have a sense. But you know, when I scroll and I make a mess, at every time I'm like, oh, I've lost a half hour. But I'm not in a real dynamic... Of repos. Of, you know, I'm going to put on my mask. There, I'm doing the mask LED. You know, I'm talking about it. And I love it. You do how many times per week? There, I'm trying to have a regularity because I'm attached to that as a real espoir of fondant of love. It's a meuf who is going to be all over the 10 minutes.
32:22I have the impression that it gives me an eclipse to my peau. I think that's super. But as I'm at the same time passionately by the derm, by the peau, the appearance, I'm not going to do this podcast, and I'm kind of, how we call it, hypochondriaque, I'm going to be in the way auprès of my dermato. For the people who listen to us, it's going to be in the number of nanometers, the light blue, ideally. But for me, what I said, what my dermatologist said, it's not more than three times per week, but ten minutes per week. It's what I do, I think. Because it's like, I had read it on the internet, that if you did more, it would have been the effects to return against you.
33:00L 'enfer. Yeah, l 'enfer. When you come back, you've got 15 minutes, it's horrible. There's a lot of legend of Urbaine like that. The other day, I'd like to do it. I don't know if you've already got your hair on the other side. I haven't. I haven't yet. I haven't even got three. And so, sometimes, I'll take a look. me disait mais t 'es folle de les arracher ça repousse par 10 et je dis mais enfin tu te doutes bien Alice que si ce truc était vrai les gens auraient trouvé la solution à la calvitie en fait c 'est à dire que les gens s 'arracheraient les cheveux et ça pousserait par, enfin c 'est faux je sais pas qui peut penser ça mais maintenant quand même dans le doute je les coupe à R.A.
33:29Ah oui donc quand même ça a eu une petite influence sur toi je me dis si, juste pour pas être chauve du coup ça se m 'a poussé tu vois donc ma squelette ça fait partie de ta routine ça fait partie mais c 'est au forceps quoi alors j 'ai un souci moi pour le coup avec les routines de manière générale it's why I had stopped the pill and I was going to put a stérilet the concept of thinking to a thing every day it's a lot of anxiety I think the life is too complicated for not to have the 9h it's that 9h10 it's the masculine 9h20 it's not 9h10 it's the facial what's that I'm all passionate about this I'm also on these issues of peau I'm nulle I have no culture I never put in place the routine and even in terms of cream I'm not very loyal I'll take a Shiseido that I had in my life before, I'll do the retinol, but then I'll do it.
34:17And so I'll do the chemise. I'll do whatever. And I'll get to convince myself that it's better. I use more than a retinol. I use... How do you call it? Tretinoin or I don't know what. You know what it is? I think it's called... I'm wondering if it's a retacnyl. It's a trick on ordination. Yeah, it's on ordination. Because in fact, I had started retinol and everyone told me that it was a problem, I don't know how to do it. I said to my dermatologist, but I don't know how to do it. She told me that she could not do it. I had a very fragile, so she was very vexed. I said, I don't know how to do it.
34:48This is a problem with which the retinol does not do nothing. So I'm going to go to the other thing, which I put three times a week with a lot of cream hydratant. But it's been a bit of a lot. But you see that it improves? It improves the riddle. I'm very interested in everything. It improves. I don't have too much of a ride. My mother has practically no one. In revanche, I'm going to paint it. It's that which is what I'm going to do. It's the gravity. There are always. I think it's a pretty good thing. But it's more the relaxement that I'm worried. And you think that the tritinoids have an effect on the relaxement?
35:23No. It's a little effect on the pores. A little on the quality of the skin. But on the relaxement, I don't think there's nothing to do. I try to do things. I do all that. but... Yeah, yeah. I've seen a woman who has not been crying for 40 years to not have a ride and have a good skin. In fact, she is affreuse. Because I think it's a muscle also. In the contrary, if you don't do anything, it doesn't work. You know, it's a obligation to live. I remember my mother, she did this thing, on the saw with my sister, do this kind of yoga facial in the years 80, 80. She was hyper-précurseuse. Yes, but she was also precursor and also obsédée by the physique.
36:02She was also transmissed this thing or really. But I think that it's the only way we've got to compliment her and it's the only way she knows compliment her to say they are beautiful. I mean, even with my son, it's a thing, it's a zone of compliments. Is it an education to educate girls with the social media? I don't know if you're inquiet of that, of saying that I want to accept them, I don't want to follow the models because we're more than in an acceptance of that. But we've never seen autant de visages filtrés et de gens avoir la même tête aussi. C 'est ça qui est très difficile. Aujourd 'hui, moi, j 'ai ce truc, tu vois, quand je me filme de près et tout, je me dis que c 'est en totale cohérence avec ce que j 'ai envie de donner comme message.
36:45Le fond et la forme doivent être alignés. Je suis contente que ça aide des femmes, etc. Moi, j 'en ai rien à foutre qu 'on me voit moche et tout, donc je m 'en fiche. Mais comme tout le monde, je pense que ça se sent depuis le début. J 'ai aussi mes paradoxes, mes trucs, j 'ai peur de vivre. Donc, on a tout ce rapport au corps qui est changeant. Il y a des jours, même parfois, je me disais, mais pourquoi vous vous êtes maquée sur telle vidéo et pas sur l 'autre ? Parce que ce jour-là, j 'avais envie de me sentir vraiment à mon max. Donc, ce n 'est pas une réalité qui est genre tout le temps la même.
37:13Mes filles, j 'ai cette peur. Moi, la trouille, la peur panique que j 'ai avec les filles, c 'est la peur de l 'anorexie. Je trouve que c 'est très compliqué. Il faut être très vigilant avec ça. Par exemple, tu vois, If I have the feeling, I don't know. It's not good. But sometimes, I'm going to feel ballonée, I'm going to be peser. I'm going to say, is it I've got to put weight? Why I don't go into this jeans? No, no. And if my girls see me, it's going to be a bit of a thing. Because I say, it starts by there. In reality, they see their mother se peser and they will say, ah, okay, so the weight, it's something important for my mom.
37:53Well, no. It's just, I have a balance which is there. I'm going to be a non-stop in tournée. I'm going to be a jean. I said, what does that mean? But it's something where we had to do the reflection with my husband. It's just a micro-chose. If you want to be a person, you don't have to be a person. It's not that the girl you see. Because I have a lot of trouble with that. And I think that when I take a look at my family, that it's from childhood, from the prepa, from the ESSEC, it's all. There's a good 30 % of it. There's a lot of trouble. I don't know if you've seen it. Or in your family. Yeah, yeah.
38:24And I'm sure that I've seen it. In the cinema, we don't even talk about it. and that's more than all the rest it's a lot of effort I'm afraid of saying they have access to networks there's a pornographic and you don't know if they will have access to that a lot of young people but I know that's also a young woman but I know that's also a young woman but it's something that's really I stress so you know sometimes my younger woman I said, I have a big heart. I said, it's too good. You have a lot of good that you have eaten. You're going to touch your big heart. It's too good to have a big heart.
39:06I tried to make it happen. I said, it's like it's going to start. I remember that. I said, it's the first moments in the little bit. My mother told me, you know, when you're little, you have to go to the vent. Yeah. It was our time. It was really that, this time. But even you had to be on a website on internet where they make comments even Love Actuality where the Nana was being like the Nana gross it's what they said the most beautiful the beau gusse and they said you know you know and you know the Nana but she's not at all like all the specials specials round or I don't know and they're a girl who makes a 38 or positive bodies with a...
39:58Yeah, yeah, but it's... It's true. It's true. Is it a weird thing? Or a specific thing? Like, you tell me, my force, physically? Because I think we're all very ambivalents compared to the physical. Because at the end, it's like everything. At every time, we say, you know what, it's good to live. And stuff, and stuff, and stuff. And at the end, it's kind of the way to present the world. It's the first thing, when you're a woman, that you're a woman. I don't know what you're saying, but it's hallucinant, the number of comments. the first comments, it's crazy. Before she's got her hair, before she's got her hair, before she's got her hair, before she's got her hair, I don't know what she's got her hair.
40:30I don't know what she's got her hair. I'm a guy in the street, there's a guy who told me, you're a guy that's funny. And you tell me, it's kind of... And in addition, I had lived that. I was like, I was like, I didn't know what to do. It's not like if I tried to be a girl. It's not like if... You're always dressed in a way pretty normal. Asexuelle, in all of a sudden, but more at the time. Beaucoup plus à l 'époque. Là, j 'ai eu un basculement. Et maintenant, tu as un basculement. Oui, où je me dis, j 'ai envie de m 'amuser, j 'ai envie de pouvoir profiter. Et c 'est agréable d 'ailleurs, c 'est trop agréable pour le public.
41:02Ah, tu crois ? Oui, je pense, parce que ça correspond à une phase de ta vie où tu es aussi alignée avec ça, tu vois. Oui, après, tu vois, c 'est intéressant parce que j 'en parlais, j 'ai un de mes potes qui regardait mes réseaux et qui me disait, alors je te dis, dès que tu postes une photo de toi, genre un peu où tu te trouves bien et tout, je ne sais pas quoi, tu perds des followers. Les gens, ils n 'ont rien à foutre de te voir. and it's interesting because I said it's funny because it's why I said there's a balance and a balance and a balance which is rather sain because I know when I'm well in my face I don't have a problem to show me but when I'm not too well I post a photo I find very beautiful because I know that's going to make me feel good, the like the flames, the things I don't know and I'm saying there's a certain thing around that and in the same time to remember where we're going to get to know it's to say that at the base we're humorists it's to be able to identify in us that we've done this job because we've des failles et qu 'on se sent...
41:50Et qu 'on veut se faire aimer. Voilà. Non mais attends, moi, j 'ai des énormes paradoxes. Je me souviens sur le tournage, le shooting de mon affiche, la photographe Charlotte, elle m 'avait mis une robe sublime et assez moulante, assez fluide, tu vois. Et moi, depuis mes grossesses, mon bide, il est plus plat, enfin, il ne veut plus rentrer. Donc, c 'était l 'après-midi, on avait bien mangé, donc boum, le bide sort assez fort. and I said, just tell me if I want to go into a little bit because it gave me this impression of a woman in the face. And I said, it's really not the message that I want to give in the face and we have really this impression.
42:28And Charlotte looked at me in the way, well, pardon, but you're really the meuf who incarnate the way on-s'-fout-of-the-physique. And there, you make a hole in the head with your hand depuis all-in-the-le-one. Genre, you're not aligned. And I said, yeah, it's true. And in the meantime, on a tous des zones d 'insécurité mais à la fois c 'est pas juste non plus c 'est une pensée hyper binaire ce serait comme se dire de quelqu 'un genre Kate Moss elle n 'a pas le droit d 'avoir des complexes parce que c 'est Kate Moss, c 'est très bien que ce truc-là il est lié à ton éducation, à comment tu as été aimée à comment tu as été vue, aux premières choses qu 'on a pu te dire c 'est bien plus complexe mais après je pense aussi que j 'ai tellement aimé voir certaines stand-upers américaines jouer de cette complexité, je ne sais pas si tu vois qui c 'est Catherine Ryan tu l 'adorerais Catherine Ryan elle a vraiment ce côté où elle va monter sur scène hyper belle et en même temps elle est très très refaite, elle en parle elles sont fous, elle dit les gens ne me reconnaissent plus, ça me va je suis trop contente et elle a ce côté où parfois elle va se montrer vraiment pas ouf et on l 'aime dans les deux cas on aime le fait qu 'elle incarne la vraie femme It's a way that sometimes she's waking up and she's like, like, typically a day of ovulation.
43:43And then she's makeup. And then she's too beautiful. And all that you want. And the day after, she's not a envie. And it's her also. But of course, it's that's what's hyper-agréable. And it's that's what's hyper-agréable in this thing where you say, I can't pass from one to another and vary. And you always hear me say, so in this moment, she wants to play with her. She wants to change her image. And you're like, I'm a woman. So there's a moment where I don't have anything to carry. It's bizarre. It's on scene that I don't have anything to carry. I'm on scene. I'm on stage total. I thought that this place is not great, not the place.
44:08I so recommend that I have something terrible about myself. I thought that congratulations to take up a Birthday. But you either get a light person or something. Well, you're not just Commission, fare you nobody just. No, I'm not mind of viewing Lee in komen. But you're only a woman with Jun worked. You were you vaccinated territory by your pictures stationed in the depth of speech where I s�� and I thought that way when I saw it in the film The Mince, the name of the tableau volé. It's crazy, I never saw it like that. You were so beautiful. It's funny. I was very interested in the film. But I'm saying, at least it's cool, it's not a look.
44:46It's the affair of an real. It's the one who is happy. I'm happy. You're right. You're right. But we're all about to say, I don't know. There are people... What did you say the other day? I had a wife who told me that I had an eye creed. I didn't know what it was. I saw it very well because it's what's happening. I'm going to say it. So I watch it all the time. It's to say that she has an eye who's creed at the level of orbit. Yes, so say. It's a vieillie and I understand it. But what? You prefer to have, like me, an enormous... How does it look like an arcane sourcilia? No, but... Well, before, I had what we call the hooded eyes.
45:16You know what I mean? So I had a little... A little droopy. A little capsular. Just a little excess of... It gave me the eyes... Not very reposed, but faussement in amand. You know? And there, as it's creed with the eyes, I have the eyes who are a little more like that. You know? A little more... and it's... In fact, I don't understand it. It's to say that she tried to explain it. She explained it. Yeah, it's a little bit about the same thing, but I don't know what I'm saying. She doesn't want to be autrement that creux. He doesn't want to be in a in a cuet, you know what I'm saying? He doesn't want to be in a in a cuen.
45:46Well, if you want, and we can put it even on this podcast, I put a photo of me there 15 years ago, we saw that it wasn't as creusé. But it's normal. The medicals are telling you that when you grow, it's a place where you lose, it's a place where you lose. systématiquement de la graisse. Donc, tu as l 'œil qui se creuse. Sauf que quand tu as... En tout cas, chez moi, ça a creusé, creusé. Ça dépend. Mais toi, certainement, si tu regardes des photos de toi il y a 15 ans, tu avais l 'œil moins creux. Que là ? Bon, tu n 'as pas trop l 'œil creux. Il est un peu creux ? Non, il n 'est pas creux. Elle va m 'ouvrir un nouveau compte.
46:16Non, non, il n 'est pas creux. Non, toi, il n 'est pas creux. Mais je pense que tu te regardes il y a 15 ans, tu avais limite vraiment pas creux. Tu vois ? Everyone loses the graze at the end of the year. It's just that it was just a bit high. But I mean, if you eat a little ravioli, it's a redone. Why ravioli? When I eat salad, I have the paper like that. Ah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I have a test of QI for you. Oh wow. It's a cadeau and a test of QI. Okay. It's a thing that I bought through social media. Retinal Deep Collagen Boost Up Mask. C 'est un masque liftant. Et ça, ça marche ?
46:58Eh bien, je ne sais pas, puisque je n 'ai jamais réussi à le mettre. Et c 'est là que le test de QI commence. J 'en ai acheté trois boîtes. J 'en ai flingué déjà une. Pour l 'instant, je crois que je lui ai demandé à tous mes invités celui qui... Et là, je dois le mettre sur moi, là ? Si tu veux bien. Et vraiment, n 'hésite pas à vraiment lire. Parce qu 'à des moments... Parce que mon mec était là, mais tu n 'as pas lu l 'énoncé. Très bien le mec qui dit ça. It's always the same, you don't read the notes. It's not a problem of math, it's very easy. There's a thing that she's doing. After cleansing, we're going to say that it's good.
47:29Use toner or pad to prep your skin. Then remove the clear fin from the mask. Okay, I'll remove the mask. But no, it's not... In plus, I have no patience. So, I already have a very well opened. Already, she has broken the mask. I already have broken the mask. But you have done a great school. You were at the same time. If you don't, you don't arrive at it. Really? They don't tell you if you want to take it or if you want to take it. We are d 'accord. It's not me who is a con. You don't understand what part you want to take.
48:03So, I would say you would take it. That's the one. Because the meuf... Oh, it's complex. No, let's take it. Let's take it. There, you know that it's already, right? No, I don't know. I've never done it. So, I'm really curious. if you arrive in two seconds I'm going to feel very very funny I'm not sure it's not at all I already know where it goes it's to say it's not a part of the face which has a look to my face to my opinion it's the mouth for the mouth because apparently it's supposed to lift the... but the mead has a little mouth who is the mannequin I don't know so okay
48:45there we are at a very close to the same thing I don't understand And there you have to take the thing again. Yes, I think. You want to take it? Wait. But if it's a mistake, it's me, then it's really a test for you. You arrive to the collier? Yeah. I'm a bit tough.
49:08Non, mais attends, pardon. Mais ça, c 'est comme les boutons sur les raps qui sont tout en haut. Et quand tu es célibataire, tu le fais comment ? Tu vois ces espèces de raps qui ont des boutons là ? Là, c 'est pareil. Voilà, déjà, ça commence à faire ce que ça me fait. C 'est quand même très agaissant. Mais pardon, mais quack. Vous avez un nom de produit électroménager, quack. C 'est coréenne ? C 'est coréenne ? Oui, je crois que c 'est coréenne. the other is for the nose but I don't know but pardon but because that normally after 30-40 minutes it's just incredible but my poule lift answers the definition of the jawline and the cheeks well already you'll have a jaw nickel the other it's like me it's too cool you can't get it it doesn't work it doesn't work but my wife he took a shot he doesn't he doesn't he doesn't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't it's because of that but yes but I don't think that but I don't think that I don't recommend it if you don't come on this one because in plus she's like you know almost like a you know it's supposed to because in fact it's supposed to take it I see very well the meek they take the plane in first with but it's not the one it's not the one where they take the plane in first and at the end of the voyage he does not do that already pardon but if you take the plane in first why I'm target already so it works it's not you can't win the test of QI, Marine.
50:34Ah, putain. But I'm the first guest. Maybe the others will not win. I think they will win. Meuf hyper compete. I think they will win. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And then, Marine, for finishing our... In fact, the thing that I don't know. I'm already a little hydratant. You feel it. Oh, I don't know. Just before the end of this podcast, Marine, déjà, I thank you infiniment. I was too honored. I was too honored. And I'll ask you that it's not totally finished because I'm going to ask you to tell us about an actuality, of the projects and everything.
51:03And I'd like you to do your promo and do your promo all in doing a tutorial. Then you'll do your promo. You'll tell us your promo. You can tell us your story. I'll tell you my story. I play my show Mauvaise Graine. Alors, the anti-stern. I was going to start with you. You know what I mean? It's like this, right? I'm a little bit in the bottom and there, but not on the thing of the ride. That's what it's going to do. We've all heard the same things. The little thing, the little point towards the top. We don't know why, but in all case, she's fine. We don't know why. I'm not sure why. I'm not sure why.
51:39I'm not sure why. I play my show on Westgren in France. And in tournée, and there's all the info on marianleonardi.com. Well, normally it's got gloves. You're doing gloves in life? Well, I'm offered gloves. Yeah. I'm a gloves. I'm a gloves, I think. I'm a gloves. I've tried some gloves, but I've still got a lot of trouble to have the reflex to really put them in my hand. Because of a sudden, you have this dozen gloves. It's intimidating. The other side, there's a lot of gloves. But what I've done recently, and it's helped me, aidé, c 'est de prendre un bon pinceau pour le blush. Donc là, j 'ai ma petite poudre nars.
52:26J 'espère que je ne m 'en mets pas trop. Voilà. C 'est une collègue qui m 'a... Une ancienne collègue de TAF qui a pris une représentation m 'a offert ça. Et en fait, je trouve que c 'est bien ma tente. Ce n 'est pas assez dur à voir sur... Dans la vie dehors, oui. Mais je pense que pour l 'image, non. Pour l 'image, ça va un peu. J 'ai vu que tu en avais mis un peu sur ton nez. Est-ce que ça, tu le fais d 'instinct où est-ce que tu as vu une meuf dire que c 'était un petit truc pas mal ? En fait, tous les trucs où il faut faire du contouring sur le nez, ça n 'a jamais marché sur moi. En revanche, mettre un peu, ça donne le côté bonne mine soleil.
53:00Alors là, ça va être carnage d 'habitude. Je n 'ai pas aussi foncé. J 'ai un peu plus clair, un peu plus chocolat. Je ne sais pas pourquoi j 'ai glissé celui-là dans mon sac. Donc moi, comme j 'ai l 'œil un peu snoopy, je ne le mets que au coin. Et j 'estompe un peu. Mais bon, là, c 'est mal fait. Évidemment, très très mal fait. I think it's pretty good, I'm not going to. And there, Gabrielle Giraud, who is a stand-upist marseillaise, very prometteuse, has made my first part. And she had this mascara. I had a clinic. So I bought it the next day. And then, it's always like that. It's that it's better on her than on her.
53:37Why? No, but she had just a seal. In fact, I was thinking, maybe she had just a seal. And there, I didn't have it. I didn't have it. But I have a little gel. I'm going to be... I have an obsession with sourcils. They are very well made. I don't like my sourcils. Before, I went to the special things. I did even do brow lamination. I don't like it. It's a bit of a mission. Is it you have finished your tuto? You can tell them that it's all for today. You do what you want. You're happy with your physique? It's a question hyper aggressive. You're happy with your physique? I'm really very violent. I'm just trying to tell you, because our auditors don't know what to say.
54:17not, but we are in the end of the day, that I just just wanted to make me wear after. I just wanted to make me wear. It's really for you. We pass on to the conclusion, Marine. I already wanted to thank you again, one second time, one five-year-old. It was super. I could have talked to you again with you. I don't know how we're going to do. Thank you, Marine. Thank you, Nora. You have listened to the first episode of En Apparence. Thank you for your listen. We'll see you soon for a next episode without filters, with more of sebum, of vergetures and of love. N 'hésitez not to like, subscribe, abonner, mettre 5 étoiles sur Apple, Podcast, Deezer, Spotify ou YouTube.
54:48J 'attends vos commentaires pour me dire quels sujets vous avez préférés dans cet épisode et qui vous avez envie d 'écouter. Et si ça vous a plu, n 'hésitez pas à le partager. À très vite, c 'était Nora Mzaoui dans En Apparence. Merci Marie. Anti -âge, maquillage, lifting, slouch aiming, botox, intox, l 'amorflé, contouring, glaskin, masque, peau flasque, relâchement, cheveux blancs, acné, zone T, brillance. En Apparence.
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🤸♀️ Pour ce premier épisode, je reçois Marine Léonardi. Avec elle on parle de son rapport aux réseaux sociaux, à ses seins, à son enfance, à ses enfants, à sa flemme des routines beauté…
Et surtout on termine par un magnifique test de QI !
Marine est actuellement en tournée dans toute la France avec son spectacle Mauvaise Graine, toutes les infos sont sur son site : marineleonardi.com
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🎙️ En apparence c’est une conversation joyeuse et spontanée, dans laquelle on fait connaissance avec des personnalités par le biais de leurs complexes, de leur zone T, de leurs routines beauté, de leur rapport à elles-mêmes, de leur enfance, de leurs poils ou encore du temps qui passe…
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Crédits:
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