[REDIFFUSION] Laura Felpin, humour, gloire et beauté (mais la santé surtout)

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0:31Anti-age, maquillage, lifting, slut-shaming, botox, ant-tox, elle a morflé, contouring, glaskin, masque, peau flasque, relâchement, cheveux blancs, acné, zone T, brillance, en apparence. Bonjour, c 'est Nora Hamzaoui et vous écoutez En Apparence. L 'invité que je reçois aujourd 'hui est une actrice, une humoriste, un génie comique, mais aussi une amie. La première fois qu 'elle m 'a contactée, c 'était sur Instagram, je crois, en me disant que son père était très fan de moi, ce qui m 'a refait ma journée alors que je ne connaissais même pas son père. Quand elle fait des persos ou qu 'elle raconte une histoire, She has this talent who makes us feel more than we listen to her.

1:01With her, we talk about psychiatry and makeup. I can't invite Laura Felpin in this podcast. Laura, hello! Bonjour! I said it in off, it's not possible if it's possible for us to see it. It's true, it was my fault. But it's all, I'm going to be... All disposer. All disposer, all disponible to see what we see. I'm all available to see what we're doing. Tell me, in off, we've already said plenty of things. I said, but you've listened to The Bodest? I said, yes. In this moment, I've listened to plenty of things. So many things. How do you know that? Tell me a little bit. It's going super. It's going super well.

1:41Because I don't work. It's true. It's for that it's going to come in. In all of a sudden, I work. But you know, it's great. Because I can finally take a little time to do things and do nothing. It was years ago that it didn't happen to me. I didn't say anything. I didn't know what I was going to do today. Yeah, it's very often. But I have a little problem of attention. I have a little problem of organizing things like you know. And so, I'm always feeling a lot of this. Because I didn't want to respond. Or I thought it was okay, but I never relanced. Or even I don't relance. So there, in fact, it's an space mental to do that.

2:17I need to be calm to be able to relance people, and think, you know. Est-ce que tu es en train de nous dire que tu es TDA ? Je ne sais pas si je le dirais ainsi. Parce qu 'en plus, je ne sais pas, mais je pense qu 'il y a quelques... En tout cas, il y a quelques... Quelques symptômes. Tu as fait des tests ? Honnêtement, j 'ai vu un psychiatre il n 'y a pas longtemps qui m 'a dit « Bon, pas sûr qu 'on ait besoin d 'aller vous faire diagnostic. » Est-ce que tu as vu le mien ? Non. Non, je n 'ai pas vu ton psychiatre parce que je n 'ai pas réussi à le joindre. Ah mince, zut ! Par un moment, il était très occupé avec une actrice.

2:52in particular. I don't know. I haven't managed to join. I love it. He is very happy that this postcast comedy works. Oh, great. Yeah, he is very happy. He seems to have called two times and I think I'm not going to be on a message. Yeah, it's possible. You can find another. I found another. A psychiatre super. There are really psychiatres super. There are also some super. Yes, but it's funny because it's not very long I went to research on the food supplements after having been thyroidectomized, so no longer thyroid. And I was working on a psychiatrist called Dr. Guillaume Font, who is a psychiatrist who is specialized in research, especially in patients who do not respond to antidepressants.

3:42And he does research on what is efficacy on our brain, Enfin, voilà. Bref, bref, bref. Tout ça pour te dire que c 'est quelqu 'un avec qui j 'ai discuté il n 'y a pas longtemps et qui m 'a dit que les psychiatres étaient souvent considérés comme... Je mets des grosses guillemets parce que ce n 'est pas une insulte pour eux. Et il me l 'a bien redit, mais comme les psychologues du service, tu vois. Genre, s 'il y a des gens qui doivent parler, qui doivent s 'occuper des gens qui tchatchent, c 'est eux. Et donc, ça donne des situations un peu folles à l 'hôpital de médecins qui ne savent pas gérer un problème, tu vois, psycho.

4:15Et qui disent... Dis-lui, par exemple, qu 'il a un cancer. Oui, je le sais. Et donc, il y a toute une partie de la psychiatrie, je pense, qui souffre aussi de ça. Même s 'ils ne sont pas en train de renier la psychologie. Mais bon, bref, je ne sais même pourquoi je suis partie. Non, mais attends, c 'est intéressant parce que... Attends, on va savoir si tu te délais. Il y a aussi toute une partie. Je pense que vraiment, les gens qui nous écoutent actuellement, la réponse, ils sont la bestie à la pasteste avec le psy. Non, mais il y a aussi un truc sur le... Quand les gens te disent, tu vois un psy, ou un psychologue, ou un truc comme ça, et que tu dis un psychiatre, the people have very much fear you have the impression they open the HP it's really and it's really an excuse imparable even for the work I can't at 14h I'm going to my psychiatrist so really it's attention the old and after they say you want to be a psychiatrist why not a psychologist and you say because I'm I'm medical and they're I'm there but it's because you you have talked about and I it's one of the reasons for which I don't have I have to I have to I have to I have to I have to I have to I have to I have to I have to I have to I have to on always talk about the moment where we go I don't know what you said on the antidepressants but you said you said it's not me I have no fear of being myself but it's not your normal state and it's not you're not even you're depressed or anxious but by the way if I can tell you after we know but we know when we're talking about when we're talking about things and when we're talking about very quickly because we're talking about we're not going to have time but I do have to say yes of course there's a little bit there's a little bit that's your side I think I don't know I don't know I'm not sure Well, frankly, maybe you're not sure.

5:49But I think that on the four people on which I'm a little sure, you're not sure. It's true, I have a lot of time to go out with others, but maybe we'll do it. Franchement, yes. But when you sent me this message, I said that you didn't have any of the temperature. No, not at all. In fact, I've had a problem anxiety generalizing, something that I discovered it not very long. Because before, I thought I was anxious, but I was a little anxious. And there it's a result that I had a very strong trouble

6:22which is also due physiologically to the ablation of the thyroid in all. Today there are studies that show and literature on the subject, how to capture the sérotonine. The thyroid is still a form of orchestra and these are studies qui sont... Justement, c 'était très intéressant pour moi de diguer là, parce qu 'il y avait à la fois le choc de l 'annonce et de traiter le cancer, etc., bien sûr. Mais il y avait aussi quelque chose qui intrinsèquement était comme un symptôme, qui n 'était pas quelque chose que je pouvais fabriquer, moi, Laura, psychologiquement. Je savais, comme j 'ai toujours été longtemps en thérapie, que là, il y avait quelque chose que je ne gérerais pas, que je ne connaissais pas.

7:04est-ce que ça vient du coup de la chimie ou pas ? Ça, on ne peut pas vraiment le savoir. but in any case it is evident that I had to be a medical and yeah yeah I was a little bit I was a little bit I was a little bit I responded very quickly and very positively I was a little bit I was a little bit I just had the impression to be you know to be a function and to be able it's like if I had the legs like that and then of a sudden I had the legs like that and it was possible to function and so so for that it's really it's post-thyroidie Post-thyroidectomy It's hard to say It's not done for a reason But it's post-it So I was working on the night We know that The sleep is very important So I think my brain I didn't understand When I was working on the night It was non-stop But it was a bit My brain I had to I would have to I would have to I would have to I mean it's like the freelance you're not in the desert in fact they don't give you no vacances you don't know you don't know you don't know and then in my job when you work you want to I think particularly when you have an episode or an episode is a intense you prefer to be in the I don't know in any case I haven't I haven't thought at this moment of what it was but it's true that for the coup I think when you look when you look the tableau clinic I was really folle.

8:35I feel like I was very interested in the study. But when you look at the clinical tableau that I traversed, it was a problem with an organ, the body was able to work differently since there was no organ. And I worked at 17 hours and I ended up at 9 hours. So I think it was really a good thing. It's not possible. And is it that you have sent... After, we're not only on the thyroid. Yeah, of course. Even if we're embracing it. and you know I'm wondering where she is now you know I have a friend who told me the day we had in a little kiss and we told you do you want to see I would have I would have to see my thyroid but it's an operation that's so delicate that you can't wake up the person to say even yes I would say after I would have to see but they don't I don't know I don't know I don't know what it looks like it's a I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know exactly the form that it's a it's a marrant but we can describe it like a papillon.

9:29You know, she has a right and a left. And we can describe it a little like a papillon. But I've never thought about my thyroid that since she's been with me. It's funny. Well, I've given it to the research. So in fact, I've learned more later, and that's something I'm not even sure there's a thing, but I've learned because I have an amie who works there-dedans, that in fact, the hospitals... I don't know if it's true, so if there's people who comment after... Fake news, fake news. De toute façon, on n 'est pas qualifié pour parler, on parle quand même. Exactement. Elle travaille dans un truc qui fait que tu peux racheter les informations cliniques des patients dans les hôpitaux publics.

10:08Donc moi, je me suis dit, j 'ai donné ma thyroïde pour la recherche. Mais en fait, ça se trouve, ils vont payer. Il va falloir payer pour pouvoir faire des études cliniques, etc. Ce que je trouvais un peu nul. Du coup, je me disais, j 'aurais dû garder ma thyroïde pour moi. Un peu comme on garde les centres de son chat. Tu sais, j 'ai les centres de mon chat sur mon étage. C 'est pas vrai. Oh, how did you call it? Petulse. Oh, Petulse. Petulse. Oh, my heart. Oh, 18 ans ? Yeah, 18 ans. She's got it. She's got it. Yeah, she's got it. Yeah, she's got it. She's got it. She's got it. She's got it. She's got it.

10:40She's got it. And of course, it's always beautiful. I was really... I was really happy. I was very happy. She was really happy to meet 17... I think 17 years. And you lose it when you... I was like, I was like... I was lost when I was like 40 years old. So in fact, she had grown. you have done your adolescence, all your memories are with her. But I'm saying there's a thing that's good in my life when people leave leave, it's that they start to piss. And at the end, I'm saying there's a lot of things. And I really, at the end, I'm looking at it with a very penetrated. That's what we'll do later on the skin care, but we're done for a while.

11:05Exactly. And she's on my computer. Oh, my God, yeah, yeah. And really, you're saying, well, I'm really... Autant I'm so super okay that you can't go. At the moment, I'm going to leave. Yeah. Is that... So, I said, You said that this thyroid, there were some physical symptoms before and after? No, not at all. Yes, before and after, of course. I made a push of acne very strong. Franchement, I had a chance to have a good capital of the hair, but I lost a lot of hair. After, it is important to know that when the body is in an operation, it has a shock, so it will puise everything to do, to do a lot of things, to do a lot of things.

11:41And so, you're often in carence of a lot of things. It's not only related to the thyroid, but I had a fer who was not in the norm. la bouche, pareil pour le zinc, pour le magnésium, tout, tout, tout. Tu as testé ta B9 récemment ? Oui, mais moi, je suis une folle... Ah, tu as une folle de prise de sang ? Je n 'ai pas trop de choix. Moi, je n 'ai pas trop de choix, mais je me fais tester toutes les six semaines en ce moment pour mes dosages de TSH. Et donc, en effet, j 'ai ouvert aussi le spectre sur tous les compléments, mais qui ne sont d 'ailleurs pas les compléments dont on parle le plus. Ce ne sont pas les compléments les plus vendus, genre la vitamine C ou les choses comme ça, qui en fait n 'ont pas un grand intérêt, si je dis pas de bêtises.

12:22Mais tu vois par exemple le fer chez une personne qui a plus de thyroïde, c 'est très important. La vitamine D ou les oméga-3 au niveau, donc EPA, DHA, tout ça, c 'est des choses qui sont hyper intéressantes pour le cerveau quand t 'es en dépression par exemple. Enfin, quand t 'es en dépression, ça ne règle pas, mais en tout cas, ça peut améliorer la créatine. On sait aujourd 'hui que c 'est un lien aussi avec le vieillissement neurologique, tout ça, les neurodégénérescences et tout. So it's interesting. It's a form of control also. I think I'm going to leave a moment when I'm going to be a little more at a time with the changes that I've experienced.

12:52So yes, obviously, without thyroid, I'm cold, I'm cold, my heart goes fast, my heart goes fast. In fact, in terms of how you're dosing and how you're dosing after the cancer, because there's also a way of what we call freiner the thyroid. It's to say that we're bourring a little bit of hormones thyroid for, just because you're a very low, a very low, a very low, a very low, and so you're like me, I think already excited. And when you're like me, I'm already excited, it makes you wake up at 4 hours of the mat, you don't do it at all. Yeah, yeah, it's that. The corticals are not even better. There's really a lot of regalings that make it, often, it's the accumulation of sleep, of fatigue, of nervousness, all that, which makes it that, after, it's a lot of problems.

13:36You know, I have my vision who has been able to do it. Ah, yeah? I've been oped, I've been intubed several times because I was oped two times, I have two stages who are bouchés for like eight months. I can't hear it correctly. I have learned a lot of things. But it's also a bit... It's also a bit interesting. Because you're aware of that often you don't know what the body does for you. And in fact, even without a thyroid, my body does stuff. So in real, I'm too happy to be alive. You're not happy. But you have a reason to say it. Even if I don't have a fear of dying, I'm just happy. you know that...

14:14I think that's a fool, the body of the human. And in fact, the more I'm interested in the body of the human, the more I find it incredible. Like, really. Yeah. It's really funny. And then you have to plonger really in a lot of... The little problems. Because really, I think that people at home, they don't want to hear the words of the water, the zinc. Yeah, but I have the impression, it's also in being ensured, that you're more hippocondriac, that you're more... Yeah, in all case, I'm... You know, you're... You know, you're... In all case, it doesn't make me angry. There are other things that I'm angry, but it doesn't make me angry.

14:41pas, tu vois. J 'ai une copine qui avait vraiment un truc où quand elle voyait les gens, elle était là. Elle est en hypothyroïdie, ça se voit à ses yeux. Elle est en hyperthyroïdie, ça se voit à ses yeux et tout. Ouais, c 'est possible. Ouais, ou alors c 'est possible qu 'elle dise de la merde. Non, les yeux, c 'est vrai que quand t 'as des yeux un peu exorbités... C 'est hyper. C 'est l 'hyper, ouais. L 'hypo, c 'est plutôt... T 'as plutôt tendance à gonfler, grossir, faire de la rétention d 'offre. Il y a tout un tas de choses. Tu peux pas forcément dire, d 'ailleurs, quand t 'es en hyper ou en hypo.

15:06Il y a plein de femmes who didn't know what they were. And I, by a year, I had a TSH, so the clinical, if you want, of my thyroid, he was perfect. I had a TSH who was very well dosed. I had, by a time, an odule who was an cancerous. But it's a cancer who is very well treated, and it's rather on the accompaniment after post-opération that it's interesting to help the people without this organ. It's rather there that it would be an integral of the medicine integrative, to see the difference. Par exemple, j 'ai une sensibilité dentaire du jour au lendemain, mais qui était extrême. Je vais voir un dentiste qui s 'en fout de ce que je lui raconte.

15:46Lui, il est là, il fait des blanchiments. En cherchant sur Internet, avec les intelligences artificielles aussi, il faut le dire, pour les malades, c 'est incroyable aussi parfois. Même si c 'est pas ce que je conseille. Mais en tout cas, quand tu cherches l 'étude et qu 'après, avec l 'intelligence artificielle, you can see who is the person who has written the study you can push like that you can see that for example, yes, in the fact of not having a thyroid, there is a possibility of having fragilised the gland parathyroidian and of course to make less calcium and the conversion of T3, which is our hormone also, it makes you time so you have a porousal at the nose a fragilisant at the feet, at the ongles, and in fact you don't use a dental dentifrice all the things you would have to do, to say to have to take a dentifrice for the gencives sensitive, for example, it's not good for your teeth, which now, for example, have to be treated with a or a thing.

16:41So, for example, my dossier, at the moment, it's my teeth, because it's impossible to explain to someone that I can't even get rid of the mouth, because I have mal aux teeth. And in fact, it's, again, there's my thyroid, and it's very... And it's very... And it's happened symptomatically like... Well, you're a lendemain, quoi. So, there's not really an explanation. So, it's a little... It's a little... It's a little... It's a little... Ceci dit, I have a little envie that you change to dentist. Why? Because it's not cool that you're not going to be a good idea. Laura, before continuing, all of a sudden you told me that I had to go on my sport.

17:14So, tell me, you're a sportive. Yeah, I'm a sportive. I've always been more or less sportive, but with big poses, especially when I work, because you know, we don't have an time logical. So I think I have a lot of room for the rest. And it's funny because I don't really do the job for that. But because I think that if I'm going to be a plomb, it's so much sport. So more health mental or this thing that I want to be well-made for the summer? No, more health mental. I'm a bit of a mess on what I look like. And it's funny. I don't know if you've done that, because you've done that for the day. We're two women of TV.

17:51But I remember that the first time I'm following, I was like, I'll never look at it. And it's going to work like that. I'm going to look at it, I'm going to look at it, I'm going to look at it, because it's not going to do it. I always believe that I don't look at it at what I am. And I think that I'm not done for sure, it's not for anything. And then when you say that I don't look at it, it's interesting because at every time, people say that you have to trust, you're super beautiful. And I say that the problem is that I'm going to imagine better than what I am. It's to say that when I'm looking at it, I'm systematically déçue.

18:18I'm not saying that if I'm déçue, if I'm looking at it, I'm like, ah, what a horreur. I think you nourish about 90 % of women the pain of you who's into your life and who's into your life in terms of your age plus you're going to get into your life plus you're going to have a different pain of you-même but who is frankly liée but who is more joyeuse but who is in all cases liée to all the images that we receive but then tell me, what did you say when you told me about because I was completely confused with the words you told me you told me because I told you also I am going to say, after, without wanting to bring it to the disease, but I was thinking, there are things a little more important, and you can be able to be able, and it's too cool.

18:58But it's going to take a quarter of a second, but it's fine. And so, it's really the mental health. I was really told, when I was not good in my trouble, I was thinking, okay, so we can go down like this. So at a moment, we're going to be prioritized. In fact, I think that this story of TDAH, I don't know, I'm not diagnosed, I don't want to say that, but in any case, of acceleration of the pensée, Va très vite dans un sens Qui est celui de la créativité, de l 'écriture De la jouissance, moi je peux marcher J 'écoute tout le temps hyper Attentive aux oiseaux J 'ai l 'impression de vivre des grands moments de bonheur à plein moments de la journée Et en fait c 'est allé aussi vite dans l 'autre sens Et ça ne m 'était jamais arrivé Et là je me suis dit, alors là il va falloir faire attention à ça Parce que ça je ne le connais pas chez moi Et donc je pense que le sport est non négociable Pour cette santé mentale Et attends je reviens sur quand tu étais chez Quotidien Tu avais du mal à te voir Je me suis vue and the two times I was like, I didn't recognize it.

19:50Because I thought, it's like that I look like. You looked at the comments and everything? I didn't look at it, but it was Yann who told me that the two or three times that I had done in direct, I had received a notification on Twitter and I didn't have Twitter. In any case, I had a account, but I didn't have any time. And of a sudden, I told you, I remember, it was before I went on a direct, I told you, but I only received a notification and it's horrible. the people said but they were horrible and so Yann m 'a dit I told you all right if you go well you suppress you never watch it and you don't forget and in plus if you don't have Twitter you don't care so I'm supposing and it's funny because it's been a few years it's a time where I'm part of the quotidien I've done in all and for all an and a half at the quotidien and frankly I think three years after there were still people who were able to put some comments at any time random you know who had no link with the quotidien and who had no link with your performance and comments on your physique?

20:47Not at the physical. Maybe on the physical. But I have a thing that happens often. The thing that I'm bringing the most often on the physical, it's the people who send me a lot of shoes. And they send me a lot of young women asiatics with good hands. And I continue. And I persist. And I sign. It's racist, in fact. Because really, most of these women don't look like they don't look like. And so, really, but there's no problem for the people with the Asian. It's like if I was going to envoy a black photo and I said, I'm going to send a lot of women to 70 years. I'm like, I'm not going to get 70 years old, it's not the question.

21:27I'm pretty convinced, I'm pretty convinced about the racism, but I have, I'm saying, a number of sosies. But I said, I thought it was you. And there's a woman who has 20 years of more than me, or 20 years of more than me, but who has a face and a glasses. And then for a few, she's a little. that is, it's really my clone in fact and the people said that they were saying that they were there and one day I met one in real who told me that it was weird and I was there and I was there and you were there you had a feeling of looking at the glass and I was there really in fact it's already so hard the projection of yourself that it is really to tell people that when people compare to someone, it doesn't matter what you want to project on the top I was there at college that they were saying you're a little girl of Jessica Alba when on says, I have a great aunt, Sylvie, in the 94, you see the photo and you say, frérot, it's just...

22:18It's just, it's a thing to say, it's a thing to say, it's a disgusting thing, but this girl has nothing to do with it. It's because we're in the way to do it. It's a position to critique the girl. I really, I'm saying, it's not that I don't look like I don't look like I don't look like. I'm saying, it's really a dinguerie. I have people who send me a lot of Asiatics every day and I say, but really, every day, I have no Instagram, but every day, I had people on Instagram who sent me photos asiatiques random, and I see what they want to say, you know. Yes, I see what they want to say. I see what you want to say, but not do it.

22:51You know, I don't know how to say it. I don't know how to say it's become a kind of receptacle of what they think on Instagram, you know, things that we can talk about in direct, but it's crazy. You said when I was younger, I liked it when they were saying Jessica Alba. Why I don't say it? I love it. I think I'm not the same I'm still calm You were how young? I saw photos of you I was more I was always I had a good job but I was an adult and a young adult that was quite

23:28filiforme quite long like the adults where it poussent they have a great I had a lot of great I was a little bit I was a little bit I don't know I was a little bit I have a little bit I have a little bit I have a little bit I'm a little bit I'm a little bit I'm an Italian I'm like my mother I'm like my grandmother When I see I'm like So my sister For example Because my father is Vietnamese My mother is Italian And my sister It's really the format 1 ,52 m 48 kilos I don't want to play like all my tantes are like that. I am, I'm a a chou and a big one, but I have more forms. I have different forms.

24:13You love it?

24:17I love it. I love it. And in plus, I have some forms, but I feel tonic. It's that I like. I like the tonic. And you had already had forms? Because you had a form... What was your style? Physical? How I'm going to be able to get out? I was a group of people with the skaters. I had a blog called Anarchist Girl. What is it? MySpace, you're going to be able to get out? I had a Skyblog. Anarchist Girl. Aucun rapport. Aucun rapport, but I thought it was punk. It was rock 'n 'roll. I was listening to Corn and Sleep Note. I thought it was a skater. I thought it was incredible I thought it was too rock 'n 'roll And at a moment I was calm in this phase But I was always a bit Mi Comet Mi Vans Mi Kyra Mi Mulhouse Pure product of Mulhouse Pure And I could also have A little sack long-champ You know what I mean With the little pearls All was Everything And obviously Crayon sous les yeux Noir And in the mucus Le crayon In the mucus Evident Very very joli Tant qu 'à faire And little franges De côté the same as I or even more more of the coté with more mass on all of us I have 10 years I have to look at it I have to look at it I'm more young maybe not at all but I think for those who listen and not Laura has put his face I have maybe if you put your glasses you can send me a photo in saying everyone says that I look like I look like yeah it's true it's true no it's good if I think that the coté is always a little But in fact, it depends.

25:57Because I have a very very low-end, too. Plus push-spice. Okay. I have a few. That was your style when you were... I have a few. Yeah. But for example, I was very... To be a little cool, non ? Yeah, I was cool, yeah. I was more... Plus pouf that cool. Okay. Very moulant. Very... You were a little in the cursor. You had to show your femininity. De la vivre, like that. Lady Soul, Diablesse, Pershing au nombril, all that. Ah, yeah. But stylé, quand même. Yeah. Franchement, not bad. Moi, I like it. I would never have a piercing on the number. I had an arcane that I regretted. I have an arcane. I have an earl.

26:31I have an earl. I have an earl. You have an earl. My earl goes entirely into my earl. I have a very little arcane. It's very arcane. Then it's closed to this level. It's a big hole. It's a little bit. But it's a big hole. But it's a big hole. Because there are people who have the size of a bottle. I have a big hole. Like that, I think. but that's what? it's the skate my bell but it was for to play with someone? frankly I don't know who I don't know who I have a lot of love but even imaginative I don't need to live a story for one more but for me to make an ecarteur I don't know, it was in my DA my cousin, he was part of a crew skate called SBR Sex, beer and rock and roll and I'm avouing, I train with them and I had a great envie of having an air cool and at the time it was cool it was the carter I remember even when there was a girl I don't know but I'm sure for all the people with the baggy there was even a moment but I'm all a little bit because now it's a little bit root sauce but it's not the carter I see I see like a thing you see like a thing of tougher no no I see like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like me don't give a chair of a pool.

27:52In fact, I don't understand. I don't know if it's... Excuse me, I'm really going to... Is it the goal of having a big object or is it the goal of having a big tree? Or is it the goal of having a big tree? But is it the goal of having a big tree? Because it's almost like a performance. I think there are plenty of people who do it like that. You know, there are also people who do it like that. And they do it like after... Yeah, it's a bit like that. There's a little bit like that. I think of the performance. I honestly, I did it because I wanted to have you know, this peak a little fluorescent I don't know, after it's not that but it's not that but it's a genre in the style but really not a success you had the chance of not having a big trouble and in fact I took it for a walk of snow and it was closed in three days it's not a problem I was a friend of mine, he was not in the skater so it was all you were wearing a mask or not?

28:45franchement, apart from the crayon noir sous les yeux, je pense qu 'on a échappé, toi et moi, au côté TikTok de maintenant et tout. Parce que les ados, elles savent se maquiller énormément. J 'ai vu un documentaire là-dessus, c 'est fou, sur les jeunes filles qui font déjà de la skin care, quoi. Ce qui est d 'ailleurs plutôt problématique, je crois, d 'un point de vue... C 'est complètement... Mais très ! Oui, et puis c 'est complètement contre-productif, en plus, si on parle vraiment scientifiquement. Mais en vrai... Après, tu vois, l 'autre jour, une copine me dit « Ah là là, mais c 'est dingue, c 'est toutes les mêmes, They're all the same.

29:15They're all the same. They're all the same. They're all the same with their face. They're all orange and all. And I'm sure I'm going to remember to have some kind of taste of taste. Well, a little bit of brownish. I think there's a kind of a sort of uniformization of the physical. And just a little bit in the podcast that I listened frankly, not later than here. So I didn't have a link with this episode. So you're listening to other podcasts that the mien? Yeah, I'm listening to other. But I haven't done that. I listened to a podcast of Delphine Saltel on Arter Radio. It's called Vive on Europe avant la fin du monde, je crois.

29:45Je crois que c 'est ça. Et c 'est cool, non ? Et là, c 'était sur la chirurgie esthétique. Et elle, elle s 'était intéressée à pourquoi et qu 'est-ce qui se passait. Et elle parlait beaucoup d 'une... Je ne me rappelle plus du nom de cette jeune fille, mais je veux absolument avoir son nom, parce que je vais dire une bêtise, et qu 'elle n 'a pas du tout un prénom de... Attends, elle s 'appelle... Muriel Joudet. Tu vois qui est Muriel Joudet ? C 'est une critique de cinéma qui a fait beaucoup de livres sur notamment l 'esthétisation de la femme, en fait, aujourd 'hui. and she talks about the capital gaze.

30:16In fact, she says that we are almost in the question of male gaze. In fact, we talk about the capital gaze in the sense that we have never been so much informed and we have never been so much tools to respond to injunctions. And for all, the market of the aesthetic is never as well as well. And for all, we do not have to not play out of all these possibilities. Sachant that, in any case, we know that we cannot counter the ineluctable fin, which is the end, the end. And so, she talked about something which was interesting, it was on the digital retouches. She said that when we make a pub on a yogurt, in fact, we retouches the yogurt.

30:50And when we make a pub for a perfume, we retouches the body of the woman. And in fact, at the same time that we retouches a yogurt today, we retouches the body of the woman. What does it bring, if you want, the human chair, which is supposed to be the inverse of the merchandise, to the same level that the object. So, there's a form of fetishization... de fétichisation. Fétichisation.

31:14Fétichisation. Fétichisation. Ouais, de fétichisation qui se crée. C 'est -à-dire qu 'en fait, on a comme des corps, ou des, tu vois, des corps, des visages, et c 'est ce qu 'un Instagram ça fait, qui sont, on fétichise quand c 'est en dehors du réel, qui sont pas dans le monde réel, qui appartiennent pas aux codes, enfin qui sont loin de tous les codes sociaux, tu vois, etc. Donc en fait, ça échappe au monde réel, on est dans un fantasme de ça, et donc je pense que toutes les filles sur TikTok, les jeunes filles, tout ça. Il y a un peu ce truc de, tu vois quelqu 'un avec un filtre, en gros plan, tu envoies 15 000 des meufs qui font des essais, tu vois, comme ça, qui font des maquillages et tout.

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33:28est-ce que tu ne veux pas de retouches, par exemple ? C 'est une vraie question que j 'ai envie de me poser, que j 'ai envie de me poser pour les années à venir et que je suis en train de me poser maintenant dans les peut -être prochains choix que je vais faire probablement. Cinématographiquement, j 'entends, et même peut -être pour un spectacle, j 'en sais rien, mais c 'est comment toi et moi qui faisons partie de ce milieu, du cinéma, de l 'image et tout, qu 'en fait, un des moyens de résister à ça, c 'est de créer une autre esthétique. Et du coup, c 'est une esthétique, encore une fois, dans le podcast, they take the example of Frances McDormand who, for a long time, was rather rejected by Hollywood for what she was and who, today, is her success.

34:05It's to be a woman of her age who has grown correctly and who has no product. And she says, I have made a considerable effort for never to be attached to a brand of perfume or a brand of perfume or a brand of coffee because I think that's it that leads the spectator to the mystery and to the possibility that I can incarnate a lot of women. and so it's a new model to create I think of how we could imagine in fact between guillemets porter against these injonctions in saying we want to see more women with more hair more skin less retouches which is what we make for a cinema which is more a cinema of auteur because we can't ask the mainstream to give us the solution and in the same time you think it's a reason and it's a reason for which I loved to make the film of Murad Winter it's that when Murad he gave me a proposal the adaptation of his film L 'amour, c 'est surcoté, le premier roman qu 'il avait fait, je pensais vraiment que dans son imaginaire, la meuf qui jouait le rôle principal, ce serait une meuf dont la beauté est imparable.

35:07Et quand il me l 'a proposé, j 'ai dit mais tu projettes ça sur moi ? Et ça m 'a presque... J 'ai trouvé ça charmant de sa part de me dire ah, donc il y a des hommes qui peuvent projeter sur des femmes des choses qui ne sont pas forcément la beauté absolue d 'une Angelina Jolie, d 'une Adèle... Moi, de toute façon, je vais te dire, les femmes, when you have a mom, I say, what's she turns? I don't know what they're saying. I don't know what they're saying. And I don't know what they're saying. Plein de femmes m 'ont dit, qu 'est-ce que c 'est réjouissant de la voir. Ça fait trop de bien, en fait, de voir des vraies femmes et tout.

35:34Et des mecs... Ce dont je ne m 'attendais pas. Parce que ce que je veux te dire, c 'est que du coup, quand le film est sorti... Et des mecs me disent aussi, qu 'est-ce qu 'elle est sexy, qu 'est-ce qu 'elle est jolie et tout. Et donc, c 'est trop agréable. Et je sais qu 'à la fois, ce n 'est pas forcément ce qu 'on veut

35:52I'm not happy with these critics because of a sudden, what I said, it was a bit of a bit of a bit. Because I said, it's too cool to see the girl next door, but the girl really. And I'm in the mood, but it's my life. I'm going to go through my life every day. We were going to go through the course at the BioCup without asking if I'm in the charm. You know, there was a little bit of a violent thing. I saw how much, when I was interviewed and all, it was... What's that, finally, what's going on a physical normal? And you were in the mood, wait, wait, I'm in the charm. I had a minute 30. I had deployed other worlds around my physique which make me think I'm possibly okay to be desired and inversement proportionnel.

36:34But it's crazy because it's true that I think I want to have it without being in the extreme inverse. Because I don't have to show that I have the hair that poussent everywhere. And it's a thing that I'm okay too. But I think it's a little bit of this milieu-là. Completely. When you look at the years, on said that the girl next door was Virginie Fira, I'd like to know who is your wife. And who, in fact, exactly. There's a level that's not right. And what's it that's that a woman of 60... What's that that pressure that we put on to do to always be performant, visible, beautiful... And in plus, why is it so important?

37:15So the question, beyond the cinema world, even if it's super interesting in the cinema world, but in the way, a little bit more grand than that, it's, is it going to be going to be a lot of fighting against that? Is it that that will produce my joy? Or is it, finally, the fact of putting a moment, which does not mean that I'm going to be a vieux tas dégueulasse, by ailleurs, that I don't have any form of my own. Of course, is it not that it's not that it's not that accept to to let a moment because it's going to be all what we're trying to build and we're going to learn to let it go. Is it not that I'm going to produce my joy?

37:51because in the end of the day, she's a press commune and a commune who we listen to at this moment-là, I know how to tell me, there's a interview where there's a photo behind. I know she's got a tech card and I'm also in age. She's got a question. She doesn't know what to do. She knows that I'm going to... I'm going to remember the Cannes, Venice, where I send you a capture of the screen, the photos of Gettys where I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, and it's a pain. It's a pain. It's a pain. It's a pain. It's a pain. It's a pain. It's a pain. It's a pain. you say, well, in fact, it's that you have to be always confronted with a thing so violent and I thought, it's not normal the place that it takes, because in fact, it's not normal, it's not normal, it's not normal, it's not joy, it's not it's not that I'm happy to be content of myself, even on other aspects, it's not that it takes too much, it's for that I was also told, in fact, it's what, I'm a I'm going to do this podcast also the most possible possible, not to make it for me to get this that's what's going on, and on s 'en fout, in fact, and I think it's so great at the moment of not...

38:48I know that it's something that I'm soignent also because I was also educated. And it's a demand to produce an effort also because it's a responsibility again once, although you see, the idea should be a bit collective and unfortunately we are obligated to pass by again once the personnalization of the effort, it's to say, I'm going to try to be the most maquillée possible if I make an interview, you also make this effort and in fact it's a a bit of a mess that we do it too, because we it's very good that we do it, but it's a demand to produce an effort, even and always that, obviously, the women don't put it on and beyond that, we're in a thing where la skincare ne s 'est jamais aussi bien portée et où ça nous passionne disons-le ça nous passionne mais pour moi ça me passionne franchement honnêtement le zinc me passionne autant que la skincare moi aussi le zinc me passionne autant que la skincare c 'est pour ça que je dis que t 'as ce petit truc t 'es des haches mais je pense que demain on me parlerait des montures de lunettes et je trouverais ça fascinant et j 'irais chercher l 'histoire de ça et tout en étant imprécise évidemment parce que je suis pas une chercheuse mais par exemple dans le cinéma et j 'ai été filmée par une femme la seule fois où j 'ai, non deux fois mais une fois où j 'ai été filmée par une femme il n 'y a pas très longtemps I was completely surprised By the way she was fascinated by the beauty Of her main actress Which was, so I said, sublime But we are all of a agree I don't have a question There's obviously not a world in which Personne says she is beautiful She is very beautiful, it's an object What is almost, for me, a race I'm thinking How to not film her profile Her jawline Everything is perfect She's a person in the middle but a little chat.

40:16And we became, the other women who were there, not really makeup, there was a kind of thing where we were happy because we were not makeup. We had a little bit of a thing that we were not happy. But in fact, it was a little bit, there was a lot of beauty. And there was a lot of beauty. And the other women are the women of the quotidien who, of course, were arranging, abyss. And they didn't project at all of the love and erotization on us. There was not at all this thing of how to make a desire without makeup, s 'il you please. Come on, we met. Because really, And then you have the story of all the writers who you want to be natural And then you say, wait, frérot, don't you go You go, you go, and you say And they say, well, you look, you look like that You look like that And in fact, you see, it's a thing that with the maladies A lot of play Like the people who knew that I was sick It was a bad thing It was a bad thing that I was going to be able to leave Without me to make the teint Because I told you that the people who were saying that I was sick And that it was a bad thing that I was going to be too violent Because I didn't wear a mask I had a baby cream And I had to wear a mask You know, I had a redneck mask to calm the cernes.

41:15But I have an hyperpigmentation around the eyes, like you see, a bit like the pews a bit indian, etc. And so I've always had a big cernes. There are people who think that I've got a big coup in the eyes. I have a very big cernes. And I have a cache. I love my cernes. Ah, really? When I started to make a TV, it was a subject, my cernes. On me told the time at the makeup, but not méchamment, but on me told you that you can use a product, a product. I was told that it would be a good that I have a cache. But because in fact, it's true that

41:45I'm so happy. I'm thinking about something. I thought about something. I thought about something. But there's also this thing. There's something that we're saying. We're going to do something very natural. Because we don't want to make it in the real life. We don't want to make it in the real life. And I'm like, in my real life, I'm making it. And most of my friends are making it. So, when you're looking at the cinema, I'm really looking at the impression that I'm going to wake up. And then, I'm thinking, but it's not the same thing that you're going to do. And then, yes, because I'm a little maquillant.

42:10I'm making it. I'm making it. dans la vraie vie, se maquille les yeux, enfin, bref, fin de la parenthèse, je ne sais pas pourquoi j 'ai passé autant de temps à chercher ce truc-là. Et tu disais les serbes. Tu en avais besoin. J 'avais besoin de faire ça. J 'avais besoin de faire ça. Je veux juste dire, autorisez-nous aussi. Tout ce truc est hyper contradictoire, parce que je suis aussi en train de dire, j 'aimerais bien, en fait, j 'ai juste envie qu 'on puisse faire ce qu 'on veut. C 'est que tout à coup, aussi, dans l 'autre sens, quand tu arrives sur un tournage et qu 'on te dit, non, non, non, attends, il faut que ce soit naturel, naturel, et tu la mets dans la vie, tu ne trouves pas que je me maquille comme une voiture volée, tu me trouves naturelle, pour autant je me maquille.

42:40En fait, ce qu 'on aurait envie, c 'est qu 'on aurait... Oui, parce que les hommes ne sont absolument pas au courant des efforts qu 'on produit hier, pas plus tard qu 'hier. Et franchement, cette anecdote m 'a fait mourir de rire. J 'ai regardé Koh-Lanta avec un pote à moi et on était tous ensemble avec mon mec, ma pote et tout. Bref. Et à un moment donné, elles font une épreuve. Tu sais, l 'épreuve, ils sont suspendus sur un truc. Ce ne sont pas les potos, mais c 'est un autre truc. Et moi, je vois une meuf et je dis, putain, elle est tellement bonne et tout. Evidemment c 'est Koh Lanta, la meuf était trop bonne Elle faisait 10 cours de crossfit par semaine Je pense que ça a été incroyable Et je dis ce truc là, donc je commande ce corps Et puis mon pote me dit Et quelqu 'un dit Comment vous pensez qu 'ils font pour se laver, etc Qu 'ils font pour se raser, pour s 'épiler Parce qu 'il n 'y avait effectivement pas de femmes qui avaient de poils là à l 'image Et mon pote me dit De toute façon je pense qu 'elles sont toutes épilolasères Et je me suis dit mais c 'est trop marrant que dans sa tête Là il y a 20 meufs devant lui qui sont Toutes épilolasères Mais partout, sous les bras, sur les jambes but I was thinking that they have no level of understanding, you know, it would be possible, but they have no level of understanding of what it produces like time to do, like money, like suffering, you know.

43:44And I was thinking that it's just a funny thing for him. It's just a woman without hair. They could not even be able to raise it. You know, it was a thing that was also a thing that was all about it. What was it really worth it? I made my first epilation laser today. Ah, no, it's not true. My first sequence. You know, is that it's not a problem? I don't know. on the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I was like, I'm not going to do this. I'm going to say that I was going to do an épilation cooking and I was going to do an integral. Not at all. I don't know why I'm going to do this camera.

44:08I'm going to say that I'm going to do the edge of the mayo for clean because I didn't want to do anything and to find out like a dindon at 77 years. I understand. Just the side, like if you were a classic mayo, in fact, a mal of a chien. Yeah, yeah. But a chien. A mal, a mal, but you can't know. It's enough. It's a big deal. It's a big deal. I had a dream of having a child, and then I would have to do the child. And I know a surgeon who would have to do the child, who is a friend of my friend, and I had already told you, to 50 years, it's gratis, it's a big deal, it's a big deal, and it's funny because I'm going to get my child, I've been told you, but in fact, there's no world in which I return to a table of operation if it's not for...

44:47My mother who had a cancer of the skin and a cancer of the foie, I can tell you, and I'm going to get a lift, I'm going to get a lift. You know what I'm going to say. And what happens like suffering a facelift, let's say it it's necessary to be equipped And it's also that now when we see the crisis génère, it's extraordinary what is done physically, it's passionately it's all in a piece we don't see more of a contour, it's nothing but don't forget that these are billionaires who from the beginning to the end of their prise in charge, I mean and the problem, it's that women of 77 who live at Palavas-Leflo and who earn 2000 balles of retraite per month and for the people who have a lot of retirement, they will ask the same services, they will attend the same things.

45:25And it's not at all possible. And it's not at all... And it's horrible, because it's really... It's what happens with all the people who... You know, we're fascinated by it. And we can't afford it financially. But... Wait, the face lift? Not the face lift. I can't afford it. I can't afford it. But what I want to say, it's a lot of people who, with these new faces... You know, we're doing this... There's this movement of the guys who say, look at Kris Jenner, what's she did? She's got to go with it. She's got to go with it. I can't let it go. I can't wait for it. I can't wait for it. I can't wait for it.

45:54I'm going to go with it. And in fact, it's like if we were to be able to get it. You know, really, we know that it's true. Yeah, but it doesn't make it I'm not going to go with my next week. I'm going to go with my skin booster. I'm not going to go with it. And we're not going to go with it. But skin booster, I'm going to go with it. But I'm also going to go with it. All right. Quality of skin. Magnificent skin booster. But in addition, I don't say that I'm not sure that I'm not sure that I'm done. You know what I've done for the first time in my life? I think that for the coup, I think it's the basic thing that everyone knows.

46:22And I thought that I already had done. It was what? Because I don't know what Skin Booster is. I've done the meso. You know what the thing is doing? And then it's going to work with you? I love the person who has done it. But frankly, I don't think I'm not. Yeah, okay. But I think I'm too old. Maybe. No, it works, this thing? I don't know. I'm not sure. I'm not sure that I'm not sure. I know that the masks, the LEDs... That works. I think that It's not scientifically proven I think I think that My friend is hyper Hyper In all the light Blue Of course But not at this level It depends on the number of nanometers I think I think that What it really demands In nanometers It's kind of a panneau The problem It's that I think that It's really done It's super But then There you go I bought it That's why You say I'm going to I'm going to Foutez-moi dans une boîte rouge et puis c 'est tout, quoi.

47:11Ouais, voilà. Foutez-moi dans une boîte, en fait, tant qu 'à faire, parce que comme ça, il y aura moins de charge. Et puis, jetez-moi la poubelle et tchats au monde. Et tout à l 'heure, t 'as dit, mais moi, mes cernes, je les aime. Tu les as toujours aimées. Enfin, je sais pas si t 'en as... J 'en ai pas eu toujours. J 'en ai eu. C 'est arrivé à jeunes adultes et franchement, j 'adore. Je trouve que ça donne du caractère, souvent. Mais donc, t 'es trop forte. Donc, en fait, t 'as eu des complexes ? T 'es complexée ? Ah non, mais je suis complexée de plein de trucs. I think I have a face too long I don't have a gel line who is very well drawn what do you say we have already talked a lot of times I don't like it I don't like it what I see but it's just that I try to not produce a thought that's too precise on me because otherwise it's done you have seen the folie with which I can enter into a subject because I have to be interested so if I start there I see very quickly that it's all going very long so I'm calm all of a sudden et il y a des trucs que je fais d 'entretien, mais même ça, je finis par me dire, est-ce qu 'il n 'y a pas un...

48:11En fait, le seul truc, c 'est que parfois, j 'ai envie de dire, j 'ai envie qu 'on fasse rien et que ce ne soit pas un statement politique. Et en fait, c 'est un peu obligatoire. Parce que si maintenant, demain, je décide de ne pas me maquiller pour aucune interview, de ne pas ci, de ne pas ça, je veux dire, il y a de fortes chances que ce soit vraiment un statement de, tu vois, j 'aimerais pouvoir parfois me maquiller, parfois pas, parfois si, et que ce ne soit pas un sujet. I love to make my makeup. I love to make my makeup. I love to make my makeup. We have an amie, a makeup commune also, Maïna.

48:42She made a very good one. Very good one. Very good one. But I, every time she makes my makeup, I said, you have a thing to make your makeup. I said, no, I just have a makeup which is cool and they put in value. So, merde. And they put in value in the moment where what's the mode now, it's the lips are going to get because we don't need to overline like that in 20 years. But I think they don't need to be a little bit like that. We have to do a lot of sourcils. But you know, I have to say that that the nails that you have been talking about. I don't talk about it when I was in the 90s. Yeah. But, I like it.

49:13Yeah, but I'm okay. Just, we don't forget it. I don't forget it. We don't forget it. We don't forget it. We don't forget it. We don't forget it. We don't forget it. The very thin. Now, the very thin comes back. The Pascal Obispo. You know what I'm saying? We don't forget it. You call him the Pascal Obispo. I call him Dylan. I call him Dylan of Beverly Hills. I have the impression that Pascal Obispo had a little trouble in his ears which was not voluntary, I don't know anything I've always said that in my head You know that since we say Pascal Obispo I hear Lucy I hear you are my millennial You can't sing I love to sing But for me I would never have to do that Is it that if you're so strong You're a bit too You're a bit of a critique You're a critic, you're a critic I'm not sure you're not strong.

50:06I'm still at the question of the agent image. You're going to talk about it. Is it you're sending photos to our website at AmiCommune in saying that it doesn't go at all? No, you don't tap. Franchement, I don't tap. You don't tap. I don't think I'm not. You're not a nervous subject. Is it that comes from parents extraordinary who haven't commented your physique? My mother has a lot of comment on my physique. She has a comment on my physique. du monde, mais je pense qu 'elle est juste le produit de toutes ces générations-là. Ma mère a un truc avec la nourriture, elle m 'a toujours un peu dit « Ah bon, tu vas manger ça ?

50:44» Alors que vraiment, je ne mange pas trop, je n 'ai pas de TCA. Ça m 'a mis un peu des petites tannases sur les trucs où je me dis « Bon, du coup, pas vraiment de compliments non plus, mais pas vraiment l 'inverse non plus. Mes parents m 'ont beaucoup protégée parce que j 'avais ce strabisme qui, ça pour le coup, je ne peux pas y échapper. So I had been, since I had been at college, on was called the biglose at a lot of times. It never helped me to put the team together. Because I had developed other things around that. And now that I know how it works, how it works, the strap is in terms of muscles.

51:18I'm in the mode, my body also has something to do. But you are still thinking that you have a strap? Yeah, for me, all the time. Because of the people who have a thing and who are thinking that they have all the time, but are you still there? Yeah, I still have a lot of times. different. Notamment quand je regarde dans l 'air parce qu 'il y a un muscle qui se contracte différemment quand on a un strabisme et qui du coup fait partir l 'œil vers l 'intérieur. Mais ça va de mieux en mieux. J 'ai souvent cru que

51:47c 'était ça qui avait fait que j 'avais eu des blessures ou des choses comme ça. Il est incontestable que ça m 'en a fait, mais que je pense que je ne les ai même pas consentis parce que j 'ai été opérée très jeune et je crois que l 'opération était un peu un choc pour mon corps pour plein de raisons parce que c 'est quand même les yeux. but I have a lot of love I have a lot of people who have said you will do what you want and I have done what I want so it's not an adversity but you have to be a good eye you are? it's not at all because I think that people know that it's not because it's not for complimenting it's not a rare it's not a bad eye but you have a good eye but I'm not

52:26but But I'm pretty good with that. After, honestly, I don't know... It's just that I don't have a high or low or low of my physique. I'm a good guy. And you know, if I'm going to fight with that, I'd prefer to be Angela Jolie. It's not the case. So you have to find a way to... Because you love the jawline. I think that jawline is a little too pronounced. If I do comment it is... But what I want to say is... What do I want to lose energy at that? And it's true, it's true, it's true. But I love the makeup. Because the makeup is still different. It's...

53:05It's how to apply different colors, how it can be held, what's it can be put in value on your face or not. And in fact, the people don't know. But with the makeup, you can do things of the way. On the saw with the contouring, on the saw with plenty of things. Are you looking at the Nina Park? You know the trend Nina Park? Maybe if you're not installed... Non, it's what? The Bush Nina Park, it's an obsidian. Non. It's a American mask who makes the lips really beautiful. She makes the lips of Mastone and of the filles on the top of the blue. A little bit of a a little bit of a and a little bit of a and a little bit of a and in fact, she creates like a sort of a little tomb.

53:39So if you do you have to eat really like a lot of and I can tell you because I really have seen a photo of me where I thought that I had really a great one and I was with a lot of people and I was like why I have I have a sauce and I was like in fact, I have not I have a sauce it's really my inner park make-up, quoi. Mais si tu le fais bien, c 'est vraiment très beau. Je vais vous mettre une photo. Je l 'ai fait hier, c 'était trop beau. Regarde, je vous montre. Parce que j 'ai acheté trois crayons pour ça, pour le faire, et franchement, je trouvais ça trop beau. Ah ouais, laisse tomber par contre, la consommation du truc, c 'est fou.

54:06Alors qu 'en plus, par ailleurs, quand on parlait, tu sais, par exemple, là, il y a un truc, moi j 'adore les nails, je me fais tout le temps les ongles. Toi, tu te les fais, ouais. Enfin, It's not me who I did, it's my manicurist and very good friend Camille. And in fact, she told me that... I'm not sure if I'm going to eat the bowl. No, it's too beautiful. You see what I mean? I'll put it in the image. It's beautiful, it's really your colors. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. I don't know. But when I'm feeling beautiful, I'm saying yes, but it doesn't look like it. You know what I mean?

54:32Yes, it looks like it's really beautiful. It's nice. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I can test it on the honor. If you want, I can make a search. I think there are people who find me. I think that... There's a one day, there's a one who said it. What's super is that you can play the meufs canon. And I think that in a sentence, it said, oops. And I was there. I think it's true, it's a compliment. It's just that in their mouth, it's not the fantasme. But I don't have a fool to play a meuf... If all my life, on me sees on the tapis rouge and then I say, I'm going to do a film on the caissiars, on va me dire...

55:10the cousin of the association is bizarre. It's in concreence with his job. It's not easy for us. Pardon, I say not easy for us. It's more difficult for the people who work in the night. But it's not easy in this job to find where you put your responsibility in the work that you're going to offer. Because in fact, when you're doing a film, you're responsible for nothing. I found it hyper liberating compared to the show. There's the montage, there's the marketing. There's nothing you choose, almost. Apart what you've done, at the moment where there's action, but it's not it's not important. And that, it's not important.

55:41It's not important. Oh yeah, because what do you want me to tell you? But I think that we have a real question to ask for, even we, you and I today, of that we have a little bit of an act. You know, I think that's dramatic when I felt what's going on me. I had an agent image and it didn't take a long time and it was super upset. You know, because what I said, in general, I didn't ask anything, I didn't ask. And then, I said not so chic. and I said but it's to say in fact not as chic because the world of the load is a world who is serious and that it will fall that you do you do drop of posts where you are a little influx a little a little which I don't in fact I already it's difficult for me to move in a day in a day I don't want to you know it's so insidious you see now the posts that we have with the dump that we have in the dump we have done un truc où on fait genre, c 'est chill, je suis avec mon pote en train de fumer les clopes en terrasse, mais il y a toujours le petit truc qui fait qu 'en fait...

56:41C 'est trop, c 'est trop de mise en scène dans la vie, tu vois. Et vraiment, j 'ai vu un gars une fois sur Insta qui disait « Someone set up de caméra », tu vois. Genre quelqu 'un a mis la caméra en ligne. Et n 'oubliez pas ça. Et on oublie, c 'est trop bien fait, c 'est normal. On oublie, notre cerveau, il oublie, c 'est normal. Il voit un gars en train de se faire du matcha, en train de parler de sa life. Bah toi, t 'as envie de te faire un matcha, like a buffoon, it's normal you know, in any case, what we can say is that I don't do partenariats, I don't do partenariats we're very rare, in fact no, but at the beginning, when I was a hybrid I was still on the internet that I was not even I was still doing film, in fact there was also this little thing of influence that you can take vite, and I had done some things, you know hop, they send me a thing, I talk about a product, but there are things, you know, at the beginning of the influence where it was, it was just a matelas, you know, you know, there was a whole thing with the matelas, you know, They sent me a mattress, but it wasn't that I had a But you know, you use a cream And at a moment, you're going to say it in a video I had to do it like two times And in fact, it's a real question It's so easy to do with the money You know what's the other question?

57:45Because you take the head Depuis when we autorize the verts fumés? You know why? I'm going to give you a... They're so beautiful, they're very good I'm sure they're not going to sell it Because I tried to copy it I tried to copy it, I bought it I said, you want to tell me what? I made a mises in the book. I said, I think she copied Angel. And I copied Laura who copied Angel. In my head, I made a mistake. Because in fact, I made... I have a problem. But I have a lot of fun. I have not that one. I tried to buy some like that. You have other ones that are a bit more like that. Yeah, exactly. But I have a lot of fun.

58:19That it doesn't go at all. Well, by the way, I'm going to tell you a thing. Sur the glass of water. I thought you were going to copy Angel. I thought you were going to tell me that. It's the moment where Angel is going to be. because I have the nails since three months. Three months. So is it that it's Angel who has copied it? We can say that. Thank you. And also, I'm a myopie. So I'm ultra sensitive to the mirror. So I often put a few words. I'm not too much at all. But after, for a woman, it's a lot better. And then there's less the sexist with the fumes. It's not a word that's blue. But I'm not too much at all.

58:55Because you said that you've been oped by myopie. But that's a lot better. No, but it's a new idea for the stigmatism. And as I'm again becoming a little myope of an eye, in fact, because it doesn't work, no longer. They don't want to be able to do myopathy? It's because they know what they do. You have to have a cordy trop fine, I think. All right. I don't want to have a doctor. I think they really answered it like that. It's because we know what we're doing. We don't want to do it. We don't want to do it. We don't want to do it. It's a bad thing. It's a bad thing. It's a bad thing. You told me about your fingers.

59:22Yeah, that's... So you told me that Camille is going to do it. Camille, it's the star. Camille, c 'est devenu une de mes meilleures copines. Je l 'aime trop. Bien sûr. Alors ça, c 'est du... En fait, ça, c 'est un truc, on s 'est dit, on le fait, parce qu 'on m 'a pu le faire après. C 'est du noir chromé. Ah ! Et comme j 'avais des bijoux... Ça me fait penser à mes Doc Martens couleur pétrole. Voilà, exactement. Ça fait un peu coûteur pétrole, d 'ailleurs. T 'as raison. Mais... Parce que je savais que j 'allais faire autre chose, là. Mais ouais, j 'adore me faire les ongles. Mais ça, c 'est un gainage.

59:54C 'est ce qu 'on appelle un gainage ? It's my own. If you take it well, you don't have a problem. Everyone tells me that, but they take it at the wheel, right? They leave a fine shower and at the same time it's not. It's not an accident. I think I don't want to. I also have my own. Franchement, if you're good with your own, it's like that. Because I just have so many I can't see it. I tried it. I didn't have two weeks like that. It was deprimed. I had the feeling of being You know, we're back to it. So I'm done it all the time. But it's fine. It's beautiful. I had a lot of time to do that. But it's been two hours we've talked.

1:00:31You know, I'm really a big fan. You're ready to do it? It's going to take two hours. We'll be back on. We'll be back on two hours. If we were a game, we'd be a top chrono. Yeah. It's a... I've got to do a concours, but I don't know which one. I don't know where I'm going to say my thoughts. What I can say to the audience or to the audience who watch, is that if you haven't seen, if you haven't succeeded to conclude if we were TDA or TDAH. You, if you've understood this podcast, you're in all HPI. It's sure. Because really, even me, I'm a little bit of a head. You know, I'm a little bit of a temper which is a little bit.

1:01:03But really, welcome to a night with me. It's an enfer. It's hard. It's a little bit. It's a little bit. You want to do it? I want to do it. I want to do a Nina Park Bush. Ah, you want to do one? But if I'm not going to do one. I think I have what I need. Ah, I have what I need. Ah, you have what I need. You have to have my own. I have four. Okay. I have a trousse of toilet, but I have two things in my skincare with the makeup. I have to have two or three things that I use before to prepare my peau. You're doing the gua sha? Not at all. I'm going to play. I can't let it go. I can't let it go? Of course.

1:01:44No, this one is a bit more sales because it's been a lot of use. Even if it's lava, but he has traces of the front. Yeah, you have to put it like that. How about that? What? You have to put it on the front. The idea is to really... If I don't put it on the side, I'm not like you. Because you said you have a face rond. I have a face like a sort of commodity. Very étroit. So if I... I would say that I was escalated against the door. So if I don't put it on the side... But you say no matter what I said. I have the time to observe. I'm not too. The problem is that you have a lot of imagination to destroy, I think.

1:02:19Wait, what's that? Because there, we can't do what we do. We can't do what we do. But we said we'd want to show our trousse. I'm afraid you're going to show our trousse. In fact, you know what we do? No, in fact, we're not going to make it. Okay. Okay. No, we're not going to make it. We're going to make it. I'm going to ask you to comment on two or three things. But wait, because I... It's just that I've learned if you want to make it. In the meantime, we've got to make it. Because we're not going to make it. Because I'm not going to make it. I'm going to make it gratos. Yeah, it's clear, I understand Ah, that by the way, I don't know You know it?

1:02:52That I don't know Ah, but I have a lot of stuff Korean and Japanese I have a lot of stuff in this moment to try a mascara from home But on doesn't say the mark, you know Well, in fact, we'll stop this podcast I'll just say it and say it's off Wait, just I have a dream of I see what a woman I'm sure That's a gift That's a gift That's a gift Oh, you see That's beautiful That's very beautiful That's Maïna Ah, qui te l 'a filé ? Qui me l 'a filé. Je pense pas qu 'elle m 'a... La maquilleuse dont on vous parlait tout à l 'heure. Et c 'est ce rouge à lèvres-là qu 'elle te met sur toutes les photos de Trobelle ?

1:03:23Ouais. Mais donc, du coup, attends, parce que sur les photos, je te trouve trop belle, t 'es l 'air d 'avoir un rouge à lèvres rouge. En fait, il n 'est pas rouge. Ça, c 'est Myna, mais c 'est pas... Mais il est rouge ? Je pense qu 'elle m 'en a mis un rouge. Elle m 'en a mis un peu un rouge qu 'elle est venue flouter. Ah ouais. Car on aime quand c 'est pas... Bah ouais. Quand c 'est pas précis. Et toi, tu t 'aimes de différentes façons. Tu peux vraiment tester plein de looks. Non, moi, j 'aime bien, genre, moi, moi, Laura. Je fais toujours la même chose, plus ou moins. On précise qui elle est.

1:03:47Tu vas me rendre dans ça, en fait. J 'ai eu l 'impression, vraiment, tu me parlais comme si j 'étais prêche dans ma WC et que tu me disais, moi, moi, Laura, ton invitée, là, en apparence. Oui, Laura. Pourquoi tu me précises qui t 'es ? C 'est trop dur. Des fois, je parle et je vois vraiment mon proche entourage qui me voit de l 'air journée qui fait... C 'est... Au but. Viens au but quand même. Non mais le but, il faut quand même avoir un peu de contexte et tout. Moi, moi, moi. Non, je fais toujours la même chose au niveau du teint quasiment. Maintenant, je suis ravie qu 'il y ait des produits qui sortent et qu 'ils soient en même temps des produits teints et des produits de soins.

1:04:19Parce que là, on va ramener ce qu 'on aime, le glowy. J 'ai la chance d 'avoir une peau un peu sèche, donc moi, je peux me permettre ça. Derrière, je peux quasiment même plaquer si tu veux. Ça ne se verra pas. Ça va être un peu toujours... Ce que je dis ne marche pas in what I'm going to express. But the eyes, it can be a little different. Sometimes I can go on a thing with I've done a little bit with a liner but I'm a little fumé. Or it can be just a little bit of rosé on the eyes. You know, a little bit open and all. It's there where I'm going to do a diff. But otherwise, my hair is almost always the same.

1:04:51Okay. Yeah. But by the way, when you're making for things, it's a little bit the moment where... It's why I'm very exigeant with the makeup. Because I love so much makeup. I know and there are many women who have a very very good makeup and then there are also the same formula for everyone and that doesn't work on the different pecs it doesn't work it's clear okay, well, Laura I think we have all the time to do it we are going to stop this moment I've adored, but I'm a little frustrated that we don't have a date for seeing. I'll say, we'll stop it. We'll put it in. We'll put it in. Thank you. Thank you for coming.

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