


13 Aug 2026 · 53m · 17 chapters

Marine Léonardi, a French humorist and social-media figure known for filming extremely close to her face, discusses how her body image was shaped by childhood, family comments, and online scrutiny; she also talks about beauty routines, skin/dermatology habits, cosmetic procedures (including Botox as a personal choice), and fears around aging and eating/weight.
Marine Léonardi is a humorist/stand-up performer and an internet personality with “the most famous nostrils” online. She films at about 2 cm from her phone, and her content often centers on skin and appearance details. Host Nora (En Apparence) interviews her.
Close-up filming is “addictive” for viewers (especially women). Family and social media comments can be both hurtful and “not malicious,” yet still shape insecurity. She believes skincare/dermatology can help (e.g., light/blue nanometers, mask/retinoids/tretinoin) but that “relaxation” from aging is harder to change. She fears anorexia triggers and avoids letting her daughters see her weigh-ins.
Donut office “food noise” ads (Noom) and hormone-care ads (Midi) appear in the episode intro; she recalls being told she was “too late” to be pretty in school, comments about her mustache/blonde hair, and online speculation about celebrities’ surgeries (e.g., “Benjamin Button” style aging).
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The hosts discuss body image issues related to social media and public perception.
“They combine GLP-1s to quiet the food noise with healthy habits that help you keep it quiet, even if you get off the meds.”
The hosts discuss body image issues related to social media and public perception.
“I'm going to say that this podcast is filmed.”
Marine shares her experiences with self-image and intimacy in relationships.
“And I said, you're a little bit like ASMR.”
A conversation about adolescence and the impact of social pressures on self-perception.
“Donc quand je me suis filmée comme ça, je me disais, foutu pour foutu, je ne vais pas être rappelée demain pour Victoria's Secret, on s 'en fout.”
Discussing beauty standards, the desire for cosmetic surgery, and societal expectations.
“And it's you who didn't put it in this case?”
Exploring how media influences perceptions of beauty and personal identity.
“Yeah, the coloration, you know, like Jolene, I don't know what, apparently it's active the pousse.”
The hosts discuss the complexities of public perception, beauty standards, and personal experiences with self-image and societal expectations.
“I remember very well from the last dinner that we did together.”
The conversation shifts to the fear of aging, societal pressures related to beauty, and personal reflections on growing older.
“D 'ailleurs, est-ce que c 'est important pour toi d 'ailleurs d 'être belle?”
Exploration of aging fears influenced by social media and personal health.
“Tu vois, donc j 'ai l 'impression que c 'est une peur de vieillir que je pourrais complètement soigner très facilement.”
Discussion about the transition into the cosmetics industry and personal experiences.
“You have a lot of things that I'm interested in.”
Insights into the obsession with cosmetic products and employee perks in the industry.
“c 'est un monde hyper codifié le luxe et les cosmétiques et je me découvre, voilà, je découvre ce secteur et quand même, je dois dire, c 'était assez sympathique d 'être au contact d 'un produit.”
Advice on skincare routines and the importance of dermatologist consultation.
“It's a meuf who's going to be all over the 10 minutes.”
Discussion about body image issues and their impact on raising children.
“In general, it's why I had stopped the pill and I was going to be able to do it.”
Reflections on societal beauty standards and their effects on women.
“so we have all this rapport with the body which is changeable you know, there are days, even sometimes I say why are you making this video and not the other?”
Sharing personal encounters with criticism regarding appearance and societal expectations.
“ПА no yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah yeah Cош my Hey Yeah Yeah they have access to networks, there's a pornographic and you don't know if they have access to that when they're young people and all.”
Explore the challenges of self-image and social media influence.
“I told you, I told you, when you post a photo of yourself, you're a little bit where you find yourself, you lose your followers.”
Delve into beauty hacks and the hosts' personal experiences with skincare.
“Ok, ben je te laisse, enfin, franchement, c 'est un, en plus moi j 'ai aucune, tu vois, la preuve, j 'ai aucune patience, donc déjà je l 'ai très mal ouverte.”

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1:22For this first episode of En Apparence, I invite the humorist who is on stage in this moment, but who has also, without a doubt, the most famous narines of the internet. She is filming at 2 cm of her phone. I don't know how you do. Bonjour, Marine Leonard. Bonjour, Nora. How are you? I'm so happy to be here. It's the first podcast. But I'll never see it. Maybe it'll never see it. But we'll know what's going on. We'll see it's a wonderful moment. Exactly. I'm going to say that this podcast is filmed. And I'm going to say for those people who watch us and who would already be tempted to comment our physique, she's fresh, she's less fresh, she's not fresh.
1:56She's bright, she's fatigued. It's normal to be déborded. I've made the choice, really a choice, how can I say it, a choice of a choice? Oui. Yes, yes. Contrarié, mais que je trouve plutôt engagé, éthique. Devenir démaquillé. Nous ne sommes pas maquillés, Marine. Nous ne sommes pas maquillés. On peut dire que depuis le moment où tu es entrée dans cette pièce, on se dit que c 'est dommage. Ben, on est tout, toi et moi, on aime bien quand même avoir un petit blush, un petit anti-cerne et tout. On aime bien tout ça et du coup, alors, bon, deux choses, on m 'a quand même déjà, ça fait genre, là, tu es arrivé il y a au moins une demi-heure dans ce studio, on ne va pas se mentir.
2:32you told me about the fact that you were going to take away the grandma you told me that I was going to remove the jacket and I said you will remove it, you will explain why you will remove it maybe if you want to remove it I told you just when I bought it, I thought it was an excellent idea this kind of illusion of surpiqure and there to have accessorized with a chemise I had the impression of having 103 years but it's extremely hot and comfortable so I'm in the dilemma so you wear this chemise Alors je suis très chemise et normalement je mets un damar en dessous pour être sûrement que mon mari ne me baise pas je mets les trucs unicloitec Oui bien sûr et là ils sont tous au sale donc je suis très perturbée donc je mets une chemise extérieure en dessous et donc j 'ai mis un gilet par peur d 'avoir froid Mais pas genre chemise d 'homme pas le truc quand on dit cheveux une chemise d 'homme c 'est vraiment chemise plus J 'aimerais parfois arrêter de porter des chemises de bobonne but I'm a kind of a pulse that leads me to bring to the and the last time I was not I was not I had a secret and someone commented it's good to put these affreuses chemises of grand-mere so you read the comments I read the comments yes because I'm not a lot on the chronicles so I read because you know the chronicles come on there are a lot of comments on a video but the chronicles there are 15-20, and I look at if someone has put a drink of a drink, I don't know.
4:04I don't know. And often, it's comments on my physique. Evident. You told me that you, like I know, because we've already done together, we've already talked about beauty, skin routine, we've already exchanged the address of who it's going to see, who is the guru, who is I don't know what. But at the same time, you arrive at filming at 2 cm from the face. Sincerely, en fait ça m 'interroge parce que moi je me rends compte que j 'ai un énorme problème, déjà ça là ce que je suis en train de faire c 'est pour moi une étape, pendant des années je sais pas si toi ça te faisait ça, quand je dormais avec un mec, vraiment je me réveillais avant lui le matin bien sûr, évidemment notamment pour péter dans une autre pièce aussi, je faisais ça non alors moi j 'ai aucun problème sur le fait de lâcher des caisses, mais il faut un derme, il faut un glow non je pétais pas encore à l 'époque je veux dire je pétais pas en puissant I was going to go in public but I was going to ask you how you got to manage the things and how you look at it it's funny this story of filming very close because it would be hypocrite to say I'm not sure I'm not sure but it was because I don't see well so I'm good when I take the portable of my friend the first example that's when I take the portable of my friend for the espionner I'm going to take a journal I'm going to take a journal And so I have this natural Of colling my face And in addition I like to see When I see videos of women I zoom, I like to see the details of the skin I have to have a crazy And so I told you People would like to see someone It's a bit like when you look at the makeup I don't know I didn't know what I said But it's a friend who told me But you said you did you like it at the time where you were coming, I was going to say there's still this unique woman who comes to fill our room.
5:59And she said, I'm a little accro. She said, I'm a little bit looking. And I said, you're a little bit like ASMR. You know, even the people who cut off the slime or things like that. And I said, in fact, you're so close that your face, when you move, it's pretty addictive. It's addictive, but for the nanas. They're so much like that. It's an enormous amount of money. a mec. Donc, il y a plein de mecs qui m 'ont dit, même des copains, genre, j 'aimerais regarder tes vidéos, mais t 'es trop près, ça me bague et tout. Ouais. Donc, je pense que c 'est un truc des nanas. Tu sais, on aime bien, mais je ne sais pas si toi, tu as ça aussi avec ton gamin, mais moi, mes filles, tu sais, j 'aime bien les regarder de près, je les touche, tu sais, je les oscule, je les touche, je les sens, machin, et mon mec, il n 'a pas ce rapport là, mes filles, and I think there's a thing of a moment also to aim to see the details of people to see I'm going to tell you at that moment you're going to accept because for the coup on scene I think you're when you're I'm going to say you're not I'm going to say you're not you're you're you're you're you're you're you're yeah well after personally I don't know how to say it without that it's like fishing for compliments but I'm not I'm never in the category jolie fille so I have this thing with my physique of all De toute façon, on ne m 'attend pas là.
7:15Donc quand je me suis filmée comme ça, je me disais, foutu pour foutu, je ne vais pas être rappelée demain pour Victoria's Secret, on s 'en fout. Donc j 'avais fait un peu le deuil. Là où moi j 'ai encore l 'espoir, alors que les enfants sont là, je rêve encore d 'être Géry Lingerie. Mais tu sais, parfois, là je sais que le défi arrive, je me dis, on va bien voir si elles ont des jambes plus grandes que moi. Elles n 'ont pas des jambes plus grandes que toi ? Non, bien sûr que non. Non, tu as des très grandes jambes. Non, vraiment, elles ont des jambes plus grandes que moi, Nora. They have really good ones.
7:40They have to have a size more size than you. And not that. But you see, it's something that I'm interested in when you say that I never considered a girl like a girl. That's to say you liked the girl. What rapport had you to your image adolescente? Adolescente, I had a corset. So, it's a very very XXXXL. And then, after, like everyone, there's a lot of hair for the hair. I was a family, class medium and all. And I think that the way it was expressed the most, because we didn't have any problems with money, but it was the way you didn't know the code I was in a good school with the kids from the little bourgeoisie of Metz and you know, the nanas without effort are already too mimes and you're there, you're going to go you think that you're going to buy a pair of converses that will solve all the problems of your life and you don't look at anything with your pair of converses.
8:24And I don't know that for a long time, or in all case it's maybe the fact of not feeling well in these posts, but I think it's at this moment-là, obviously, that I've developed even more my side of the role and all, but I think that when you you don't put it in a case of the jolie girl to adolescence, it's a little plied for the entire life. And it's you who didn't put it in this case? Or you had the feeling, is it still at the time where the boys, for example, were doing classes? I was very impressed with that. Yes, it was quite clear also that in these famous classes, I was never in the top 3, you know.
8:56I'm pretty poilu, I'm italian, it's a critic of my arms, but I had this moment a little bit of anesthesia where I was going to put it, because I was going to tell you, but there, what do you want to do? I have a corset, Well, it's crazy. The gargum and the legs and the legs and the legs and the things to the adolescent, it's so crazy. It's horrible. I remember there was a guy who had released this rumor on me that I was going to be able to tattoo the teeth, while it's just that I didn't have a lot of rapport to the 90s, where we had to peel everything. It's incredible. But it didn't even have a tattoo, I think.
9:26His mother had the tattoo tattooed, but you know, at the time, it was a little violets. It was a little bit of a mess. It was a little... I don't know what it was. des trucs faits au compas, un peu violets et je trouvais ça hallucinant parce que ce garçon à l 'époque vraiment n 'avait rien pour plaire, n 'était pas très sympathique, pas joli, méchant et en fait il se permettait des trucs et en effet je me souviens j 'ai plein de souvenirs de trucs comme ça ou des gens qui te parlent de ta moustache et tu te dis mais avec ta gueule ni fait ni à faire, tu te permets des commentaires and for all, it's those who are the most, it's those who are the most, in reality.
10:07So, like they are aggressive in the way they have to comment the physique, often the physique of women, but after they are considered as the guys a little cool of the class, and for them, they have a head of chips, but you end up with an envisage of you to get the arms for this kind of enormous talk-art. I've made. You haven't made? I haven't made, I've made blondie. Ah ouais, alors moi, I've made blondie, I've made the mustache at an So I had Patrick Juvet who lived on the top of my head, which was really a good idea. After I removed my electrician, because it's a thing that for the people who listen to us, the coloration apparently active the pousse of the pousse.
10:45The coloration blonde? Yeah, the coloration, you know, like Jolene, I don't know what, apparently it's active the pousse. I stopped and really, I live very correctly with... You're going to put my hair on the nose. No, but... Well, you don't have a mustache. But really, it's not a thing that I know. But is there still a thing that is? Well, honestly, no. My scoliosis. Yeah. I really... It's a thing that I'm going to see. So when I'm at Walp or when I'm at the beach, I'm a bit in control and I'm going to try to get right. But it's a thing that takes 10 seconds. And then I'm a kind of... You're lying to the corset that you've talked about?
11:19Yes. The corset arrête the evolution of the scoliosis. But if I had a corset, I'd be in a car. so yes, I'm not at all with my even when there are some little tournages, the little tournage HMC where I was talking about, they wanted me to film my dos I was like, yes, attention, because in terms of the angle, etc, so yes, that's something for me but it's about all but without in your show, you say something amazing on your show, I don't know if it's exactly, but it's almost exactly because we're selling more well but in gros, you say two loves who were wearing a little bit of earring It's too loud.
11:54And I find the image really perfect because I see very well this thing. You have the hair. Completely. But today, I have time to tell me why I don't like them. Before, they were little, but it wasn't too complex. And then I said, it was several years that I didn't like them. And I said in my head that it was really related to the sex. And that the second one was going to be. It's so, it's going to be a void. It's going to be a void. But as you don't have a lot of base, you don't have a gaffe. And then I said, but they're little now. And I have the idea of this thing of two balls of baudruche, two small balls of anniversaries which have a envie of being inflated.
12:29So I had my phase last year where I was really there. Let's go. I was going to put down the nichons. And then it was repassé. I looked at the photos of Jane Birkin. And I was like, no, but it's too bad. Yeah, Jane Birkin, it's too bad. Yeah, of course. And you were all just to train you. Yeah, yeah. I started. There was a guy super, Park Monceau, who was supposed to do the stuff. He was supposed to do a mal of chien, I think. Mal de chien Non ça m 'est passé Ça m 'est passé Parce que Pour le coup Je suis très fine du haut Et je me suis surprise À me dire J 'espère que je vais pas ressembler À ces vieilles bonnes femmes Sur la plage Tu sais qui sont Sur le dos Avec de Ouais tu sais Les bras fils de fer Mais deux énormes pastèques Bah tu aurais eu le bon goût De pas te mettre peut -être Deux énormes Mais c 'est pas dit que C 'est pas dit que J 'aurais pas voulu rentabiliser l 'opération Avec une vraie paire de nibards Tu vois parce que tout le monde me dit Mais tu peux en mettre des tout petits Je suis là Meuf Je claque pas 5000 balles and a convaincance of the hell.
13:18Yes. For having things that you haven't noticed, I have noticed that I have noticed. There's also the lifting of the skin. I was teaching you on that. But you told me that you were a tall. And I said, well, no. Ah, really? Yes. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'll invite a doctor on this podcast who will tell you everything. Is it also you look at the chirurgic on Insta who commenters the Star? Yes. But I'm told you, it's passionately. And I'm told you, is it going to be able to do that? Because I'm told you, in fact, that will happen on us. I have the impression that they comment ...
13:51It's not that the people stop commenting the physique of the femme. Because you have the right to do it. The people have the right to talk. We have the right to eat the fries. We have the right to say, she is too beautiful. I think she is doing what? I did it. I remember very well from the last dinner that we did together. You told me, you didn't have seen Anna Tawai at the last défilé? And I told you, but wait, we just have the hair. We have all the hair. It's also why I do this podcast. It's to say, we have the right to say, obviously, that we are interested in everything and that it's not...
14:17But especially on the nanas, typically Hannah Taway, after it's her right the most strict of not communicating on the operations that she has to do. But it's the nanas who, of course, don't live in. We, it's a complex. So I think it's pretty simple to verbalize it. But what's going on with Hannah Taway who is trying to do a Benjamin Button and it's simple to say me, you know, you know, you know, you know, she's got an operation. It's quite sure. Or... Well, yes, I think it's not a thing. But she had maybe also a tiret. The other day, I was going to go to Cannes and I was really going to learn this thing where I was there, I was there, I was there, you know, I was there, you know, this kind of kind of gesture, you know, and there, yeah, and someone told me, well, in fact, you can put me on a tirette, my chérie, because I was a tirette, it's to say, and he said, well, we're going to tire there, there, in all the way, it's to leave the shoes, and I was like, oh, but in fact, it's amazing.
14:59It's amazing, it's amazing. Personne ne m 'avait dit, mettez-moi des tirettes, genre, partout. But you know, by example, I think that, yes, I see very well this guy who is there, I I think she did this, she did that. But for example, I think also that... Because I've seen a lot of times photos. The other day, I had a wife who told me that she saw at Molière, she was so beautiful. I was very beautiful. You were very beautiful. Thank you. At the end of the time of Molière, I was canon. You were canon. Thank you. And one of my friends told me that I saw the photo, I thought it was completely refaite, but I was reassured to see the real.
15:31Because in fact, it's okay. And in fact, there's a photo that I have, that I posted on the réseau, and I see very well why. But in fact, the light, the glow, the overline and everything, were there. The people also were a little bit of a picture of the time in which we live. We are on the way to light, on the skin, on the skin. Sometimes we do a makeup which is perfect for the TV. Yeah. You see, it's also a case for the Moliere. It's to say that you have to do a makeup which makes it perfect. And if you take a picture of a close, you see in fact the makeup a little bit. But it's also that there was a light like that.
16:03So all my hair was like that. there was a kind of glow, I said, well, I'm not like that in real but it's horrible because if someone said, I thought you were a refaite I would say, oh, compliment déguisé we are really mad but you know, we have all our nevroses on that, you would have taken like a compliment déguisé but the way you were so good, I felt like you were a refaite but it's my it's my bad it's my bad quel rapport have your parents physically, is it a compliment? No, I have parents. My parents didn't have more compliments than that. They didn't care. But, you know, cool. Yeah, that's right.
16:43If my father felt that he could make some remarks, my sister and I, it was at the time, because it seemed extremely problematic, but more on the fact that he was doing sport, he was in good health, he was in good health, attention, the girls, because he would have a little son, who would have a little son who would have a ballon. But the sport, at the limit, it's a terrible thing. So if you were to Avashi with a package of chips on the canapes, you could have a remark that, today, would be limited for a bit of a gross-phobes. But in the meantime, my sister and I, we have no real problems of food, we were going to get it.
17:14But it's true that, well... There was a commentaire décomplexé on the physique in my Italian family, but from the side of the women, because Italian, so it was commenter H24. The physique? H24. Like at the same time. But in fact, in the Mediterranean, pardon the generalist, So my mother, typically I had a girl, I had a girl, I had a girl I had a girl, I had a girl, I had a girl, I had a girl I had 25 years, so I'm going to Paris When I'm in Metz, I know I'm going to make screen The 5-10 minutes and you're going to take The conclusion of my life Is it I'm a guy, is it I'm a guy, is it I'm going to be a guy Is it I'm going to be a guy, is it I'm going to be a guy It's just a day, it's just a day Where I'm a girl, it doesn't mean to say that I'm At the bottom of the sea, it's to say that she was Like Anastasia and Javotte, in my life It's like, ah, you've seen the little girl, it's not possible And in addition, it was a biais because I could go into a day where I was a good mind, but in fact, I was going to make me lose.
18:06But like you were beautiful, it was a pass. And I have a mother, I remember, I was 7-8 years old, and I said, maman, is that I'm the most beautiful? And she said, no. And it was a marked. And I didn't know, at this point, if she had a reason or not, to tell me the truth. because, obviously, I'm and I'm not at my wife when they say what I'm saying is that I'm not that you're beautiful. But you think that they're the most beautiful? Yeah, but are you not that you're not that? I'm not that I'm very, very, very beautiful. But you know, it's me asking, is that my mother had a such a problem? Is that I wasn't that beautiful?
18:41Well, when I saw the photos, I said, I wasn't that beautiful, but well, but... No, but in fact, is that her mother's or her husband's side of the woman who spoke for that? Because in fact, you say, when we answer this question, it's the mothers who respond. It's not a physical thing. It's not... It's not... It's not... Exactly. You're not the most beautiful. Because you know, I'm not sure if you've noticed. So, I've grown in a family who comments a lot of physical. And even today, I'm doing a TV show. I'm feeling to call my mother. To tell her, you've seen it, you've found it. But when I say you've found it, I'm waiting for her to respond.
19:13And she knows, she responds to you. She'll tell me that you were well-maquillé. But I posted a video like that on Insta, de Noël 2024, where we hear all my family. on parle de choses et d 'autres parce que je voulais que les gens captent un peu la vibe italienne de ma famille que je trouve quand même assez rigolote et à un moment donné ils parlent pendant sur la vidéo qui fait 1 minute 30 il y a 45 secondes sur mon physique du genre mais c 'est à vous qu 'est-ce qu 'ils t 'avaient fait donc je t 'ai pas reconnu mais attends mais c 'est des professionnels dans ces cas-là mais tu sais ils connaissent pas le milieu parisien mais c 'est des pros mais genre ah oui et il y a un moment qui dit oh mais des artistes c 'est vraiment des artistes genre comme si le ravalement de façade It's terrible.
19:53I know when I started on TV at the time, I was on Canal, on Grand Journal. In addition, I was very complexed. Because for me, I don't know how to do it, you have six years of less than me. So maybe it was a little bit more for me, Canal, it was the misty, the bombs, the chicha, the cinema. It was so. So I said, you're going to get a lot of you, you're going to get a lot of you, you're going to get a lot of sweatshirt. And you're not going to comment that my physique. It was really... It was really... It was a lot of... But it's a point where, in plus, C 'est au présent ? Ah ouais, je me souviens d 'une fois où Léla Bechti est invitée sur le plateau du Grand Journal et ma mère me dit « Tu n 'as pas démérité ?
20:26» Elle me dit « C 'était pas moche à côté d 'elle. » Et je dis « Ah ! » Et donc je dis « C 'est fou ! » Mais moi, ma mère se trouve sublime. Enfin, je l 'adore. Si elle écoute cette émission, je ne sais pas comment elle le vivra. Mais en tout cas, elle a été très belle. Elle a une très belle peau, tout ça. Mais elle a été très bien. Tu es très belle, Nora, je tiens à te le dire. Merci beaucoup, c 'est gentil. Toi aussi, tu es très belle. And I was like, I don't know if it was that with your mom, but I felt that my mom was not going to part of a bad intention, even if it was the way, I have two girls, I don't want to judge them by society, so I'll send them the coup in first, for they take into consideration my remarks.
21:01Oh, yeah, yeah. You see, this is the way... To prepare a little. Yeah, wait, I'm going to take your physique and sometimes it's a fool, but if it's not me, it's going to be your neighbor's house, it's going to be... and you will be happy. I'm your mother, no one will be more than me. I'm going to tell you the truth of the image that you send. But in reality, it's not at all what you need to do. But it was a very difficult time. Completely. The world is hard. I don't want to be able to do it. We will see you later, later, later. You have the impression that later, it will be great. And especially, it can't be worse than college.
21:32Yeah. You remember the first makeup that you bought at college or the first time you wanted to make it? Or the first time you wanted to make it? I remember that I was going to be in the fifth grade and my professor of history me prend my part and me says «Marine, you're a little too late, a little bit of a little, I'm talking to your parents. And I looked at her and I said I love to be in the fifth grade. It's a marked to me say « Ok, so I'm already in the fifth grade since I've had this remark. Alors, I haven't said that. Today, it's very premature that my daughter is in the fifth grade. And I, not only I'm in the fifth grade, so it's to say that I'm in the sixth grade, but it's that my mother encouraged.
22:07I was very proud of my mother who said to me, you know, I'm going to peel your teeth if you want to peel your teeth. I wasn't maquillée at the truelle. But my mother liked it well that I put a little blush, a little mascara, and that her daughter was fresh for school. Today, I'm thinking... Well, yes, in fact, I saw those adults... Pardon, I wasn't maquillée like that non plus. There are moments of those adults where you have the impression that they follow with a tutorial of makeup. And even on the routine routine, I had an aunt who talked about her daughter and she said, but it's great. She's a great deal.
22:35She's a great deal. She's a great deal. I'm not sure that it's very good. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. You don't know what you put on the skin. You don't know what the endocrine is. I don't know what the perturbators are. But it's tough. Yeah. I remember the makeup. I remember perfectly of his first blush body shop. His first baume à lèvres. He's a good one. He's a good one. Bourgeois. Bourgeois. Exactly. Bourgeois. All these little fards to paupières. These fards to jou. And you had quel age? I was... I was... I was able to buy my first blush in the fifth. Yeah. And then I was a-bonnaie at the club of the creators of beauty.
23:04I was a fan of this stuff. I was really like the orange-eyed and beige-metal rosé. I was really sorry to all the rest. I was like, I love that, the makeup. But after, for the coup, I think that the makeup is an empowerment is incredible. It's why I made a video recently which, of course, has been relayed by a medical doctor. So, she has recognized a certain notoriety. It's my friend and that's a great phrase that I tell my wife, it's that if you do do Botox, I'll be able to leave. It's literally the only reason for which I can't leave. So, I'm not going to leave you. I'm not going to know. You're going to have the hand lourdes.
23:41Like if he knew it and he knew it. And in the video, I found it cute. And in fine, I thought it was a paradoxical. We do what we want. You know, I don't have control over my body. If I'm feeling with Botox, I'm feeling with Botox. The Botox, it allows a lot of women to feel good in their skin. The makeup also. and it's been a homage to all these techniques. After, you're free to have to have a recourse or not. You've already tried? No, but I think it's not going to be able to do it. Because we have a tendency, as far as my family, to ride the front. I'm going to have a lot of cream. But... And so, I have this great temptation.
24:22Because I know that the incredible effects that can have the Botox on... But you can also get the sensation. I've already tried it on the front. And then, I'm completely wrong with it. a blinded while I have a frange, so it doesn't serve as a ranger. And you have the chance to have a face to face. But my dream, it's a question of nez. No, but not at all. I'm not at all. This podcast is very long. No, a face to face, it's not a chance. It's a thing that you have to comb. When I'm in the winter and I don't have a frange, I'm like, oh, you're not a frange. I'm like, it's a real compliment. I have the impression that I have my frange.
24:49I have the impression that I have my hair. I have the impression that I have to be a chauve. I have the impression that I have to be a man. if they had the right knee. I love the theory super precise. It's obvious that the front is flat. So, yes, you're the best with a frange, but it's so rare to have the face which is a very good one. And for me, it's a question of the knee, of how the knee is stuck. I love my knee. My knee is very complex. It's obviously a lot to be a adolescence. And now, I don't think I can't be... But at what moment do you go to a knee where you're complex at an adolescent and at a moment where you love?
25:22I think that my knee prenaient plus de place sur mon visage aussi à l 'adolescence, tu vois. Factuellement, c 'est -à-dire que je pense qu 'à l 'adolescence, ça c 'est très important, s 'il y a des ados qui nous écoutent, vous n 'avez pas les proportions définitives de votre visage. Quand j 'étais petite, j 'avais qu 'une seule hâte, c 'était de bosser. Je rêvais d 'être boulangère, fromagère, libraire. J 'imaginais, femme indépendante, avoir ma propre boutique et être la patronne de mon petit commerce. Ce sentiment d 'indépendance, je l 'ai finalement gagné sur scène grâce à mes spectacles. Mais si je devais réaliser cet autre rêve d 'enfant, bon, je ne sais pas ce que je vendrais.
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27:08Authentiquement, ça ne l 'est plus. Et pour autant, j 'en parle dans le spectacle, mais je me suis surprise à avoir quand même peur de vieillir. and I can't know if it's a real fear related to physicality or if it's a kind of fear that I've inherited from when I was in my life corporate I had very fear of being here because I didn't realize my dream of stand-up so I saw the years who were going to and I had this thing but I'm happy so those young people who have 20 years and who have still this possibility of doing cinema which I didn't have at all and I had the impression that I had lost the coach so I was going to train with young people à avoir peur de vieillir, tu vois.
27:46Et je n 'arrive pas à savoir si aujourd 'hui, la peur de vieillir que je peux avoir physiquement, c 'est juste une sorte de reliquat de cette période-là où je n 'avais pas réalisé mes rêves. Parce que parfois, quand je prends du recul, je me dis mais quelle joie aussi de vieillir en réalité, tu vois. Oui, et est-ce que tu ne te préfères pas mille fois plus aujourd 'hui ? Oui, vraiment, oui. Tu vois, donc j 'ai l 'impression que c 'est une peur de vieillir que je pourrais complètement soigner très facilement. Et je pense que quand même, c 'est un peu lié forcément un peu au fait que je suis quand même beaucoup sur les réseaux sociaux.
28:13so I see these kinds of nanas who don't get into it, it's me asking but I'm thinking, is there something that I'm doing wrong? You know, I said, I had a little bit of a coffee because I had the impression that I had the lips of the yellow. It's more things of good or bad health. Today I'm thinking, I don't want to have a body where when people look at me, they say, she's in bad health. You're very sane. But I've stopped to fumer and all for that. The only reason is the aesthetic. Avoir a beautiful skin. Because I love to fumer. I love the clope, it's horrible. I didn't have any reasons for health reasons, but it's still the first reason.
28:46But I did it because I didn't want to have the stigma, the teeth jaunes. I started to have the teeth jaunes, the teeth jaunes. And I thought it was not bad to vieillir, but it's a bit disgusting when you have this color, you know, the black on the lips, the teeth ternes, you know, this thing that the nana is not in good health. And that I was told no. And you drink? And I don't have to drink water. Do you? Look, look, the water, it's horrible. I don't want to be a pipi. So I think that when I drink water, I'm like... You have a problem with a cystic? That will be for my season 2. I have a lot of...
29:19Is it related to that, you think? Of course. Maybe. I haven't done that. I had an infection in the air. It was OM. I'm out of it. I don't know. I don't know. You have a lot of things that I'm interested in. On your own, your corporate life. You were at Shishido. I don't know how to say it. Est-ce that you had a desire to be a beauty? because it's when you're at home, like at the time when I was at the SELSA, people said I would work at... It was really a hazard because when I had my diploma in the school of commerce, at the moment, it was the mode of the commercial immobilier. They had to verify this exploit of telling people that it was absolutely selling des bureaus, so everyone had to sell there.
29:57I was the first. And I did four years there. And I couldn't have been the sector immobilier which is extremely misogyny. Pardon for the generality, I still don't have to say that. But frankly, at my time, it was Qatar. and so I got a R.H. from the store in the KGT it was Carrefour, on the market immobilier of Carrefour, which is part of the Shiseido and I express my exaspération of the milieu and he said but you know what, come on, I'll meet my DR.H., she will aim your energy and all maybe there's a post, maybe not, but coup of cœur with the DR.H., she m 'embauche and I'm a little in this kind of business cosmetic to discover a sector a little sur le tard, tu vois, parce que j 'avais déjà à ce moment-là, je sais pas, 28, 29 ou même 30, ouais, 28, 29 ans.
30:45Souvent, les gens qui bossent là ont fait ça depuis toujours, tu sais, viennent de L 'Oréal, c 'est un monde hyper codifié le luxe et les cosmétiques et je me découvre, voilà, je découvre ce secteur et quand même, je dois dire, c 'était assez sympathique d 'être au contact d 'un produit. Est-ce que tu avais des produits gratuits ? Ah mais meuf, c 'est pas que j 'avais des produits gratuits, c 'est -à-dire que je pourchassais les RP dès que je voyais une clé qui traînaient, j 'ouvrais un placard pour voir si je pouvais prendre des crèmes, j 'étais boulimique pour le coup, des produits du maquillage, de tout ça et vente au personnel, laisse tomber, je devenais dingue c 'est -à-dire que vraiment mon mec Alix me disait, mais enfin là concrètement tu viens juste de réinjecter ton salaire ça n 'a aucun sens j 'avais même aidé la boîte à monter le site de vente au personnel c 'était un moment donné on m 'avait dit, bah voilà, ce serait bien que tu aies fait une mission en finance et tout, j 'ai dit non, non, moi je vais monter the site because it was on an Excel which was taken by an assistant.
31:39So it was complicated for her, for her. And I said, it's not possible that there's not a real site for the intern. And the site, when I was left, was one of the most big affaires. It was also big as a country, I believe, as the people, as the people, the salariés dépensent... It's a very beautiful brand. But especially, there's not only a Shiseido. There's Nars... I love Nars in the maquillage. It was Narciso Rodriguez. It was Miyake. When I was there, there was Dolce & Gabbana. It was a little complicated. But Dolce & Gabbana makeup and all. Non, it was... I have tested a lot of their masks. I have to say they don't have part of my favorite.
32:18I'm going to tell you because we are not yet sponsorized. Masque Shiseido or Narc? Non, Shiseido. Oui. I'm not at all. Ah, bon ? You're not at all. In fact, I... I'm going to buy it because it's very bad. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to buy it. So, it's going to get it. it's going to be a little bit. It's true that it's going to be a little bit. So, the mask mask means a kind of a deep breath, a moment sacralized where you put a little bit with your mask. And I think I'm too hyper active. Ah, yeah? But you're never put in your nap in the way to scroll to the mess? Well, obviously, all the day.
32:49So, you know, it doesn't have a sense. But you know, when I scroll and I make a mess, at every time, I'm like, oh, I've still lost one half. But I'm not in a real dynamic of repos. Of course, I'm going to put on my mask. There, I'm going to do the mask. You know, of course, and I love it you do it how many times per week? I try to have a regularity because I'm like a real espoir of fondant of love. It's a meuf who's going to be all over the 10 minutes. I have the impression that it gives me an eclipse to my peau. To you think that... I think that's super, but as I'm passionnée by the derm, by the peau, the appearance, I'm not going to do this podcast, and I'm kind of, how on call it, hypochondriaque, I'm so enseignée auprès of my dermato, So for the people who listen to us or watch, it's been to know the number, I've already talked about it in my newsletter, on the number of nanometers, the light blue, ideally.
33:40And on the other hand, what I said, what my dermatologist said, it's not more than three times per week, 10 minutes per week. So it's what I do, I think. Because it's been, I had read it on the internet, that if you did more, the effects were to return against you. L 'enfer. Yeah, l 'enfer. When you come back, you've made 15 minutes, it's horrible. There's a lot of energy in your bed, like that. The other day, I'm going to go back. I don't know if you've already had your hair. I don't have any. I don't have any. I have three. And so, sometimes I'll let them and a wife said, but it's fun to let them and it's hard to let them and I say, but you're not at least, if this thing was true, the people would have found the solution to the calvitie.
34:14It's to say that the people would have found the solution and it would have been and it would have been and it would have been and it's false. I don't know who can think that. But now, in the doubt, I'll let them out. When I'm not. So, it's a influence on you. I'm saying, just for not to be hot, it's a push. So, my skin is a part of your routine. It's a part of it, but it's for the forceps. I have a problem with the routine. In general, it's why I had stopped the pill and I was going to be able to do it. The concept of thinking about everything every day, it's an exasper. I think the life is too complicated for not to have the 9h, it's it.
34:489h10, it's the masculine, 9h20, it's not. The gua sha, 9h10, it's the facial. No, it's not. What's the thing that I'm passionate about, I'm also on these issues of peau and everything. I'm null. I have no culture. I never put in place these routines. Even in terms of cream, I'm not very faithful. I'm going to take a shiseido that I had in my life before. I'm going to do the retinol but then I'm going to do it. And so I'm doing the chemise. I'm doing n 'importe what. And I'm going to convince that it's better. I use more than a retinol. I use... How do you call it? Tretinoin or I don't know what.
35:23You see what it is? I think it's called... I'm wondering if it was a redactyl. It's a trick on ordinate. Yeah, it's on ordinate. Because in fact, I had started the retinol and everyone told me, well, it's not me, I don't know how to do it. I said to my dermatologist, but I don't know what it's doing. It's not me, it's not me. She said, but you, your skin, you can't go. I have a hyper fragile, so it's a hyper vexer. I said, I don't know what it's supposed to do. This skin to which the retinol doesn't make nothing. So I'm going to pass it to the other thing that I put three times a week with a lot of cream hydrating.
35:49But it's not me, you know, it's a little. but you see that it improves the ridges I'm very interested by all the pores it improves I don't have too much my mom has not in the way I'm going to I'm going to it's the gravity more than the there are always but I think it's pretty good the ridges but it's more the relâchement that I'm inquiet and you think that the tritinoids have an effect on the relâchement no it's a just a a little on the pores a little on the quality and the body. But on the relaxes, I don't think there's nothing to do. If I try to do things, I do everything. I do everything. I've seen a woman who has not sourced for 40 years to not have a good skin.
36:36In fact, she is affreuse. Because I think it's a muscle. In the contrary, if you don't do anything, it doesn't work. You know, it's a good thing. I saw my mother do this thing. On the saw with my sister do this thing in the 80s. She was super crazy. Yes, but she was also a precursor and also obsédée by the physical. It's to say that she was still transmiss this thing. But I think that it's the only way we've had to compliment her. And it's the only way she knows compliment her. I mean, even with my son, it's a thing, it's kind of it's a zone of compliments. Is it to educate girls, it's a thing with the social media?
37:17I don't know if you're inquiet of that, de dire j 'ai envie qu 'elle s 'accepte, j 'ai pas envie qu 'elle suive des modèles parce qu 'on est de plus en plus dans un genre acceptation de soi mais on n 'a jamais vu autant de visages filtrés et de gens avoir la même tête aussi. Mais c 'est ça qui est très difficile aujourd 'hui moi je j 'ai ce truc tu vois quand je me filme de près et tout je me dis c 'est en totale cohérence avec ce que j 'ai envie de donner comme message, le fond et la forme doivent être alignés, je suis contente que ça aide des femmes etc moi j 'en ai rien à foutre qu 'on me voit moche et tout donc je m 'en fiche but like everyone, I think it's the same since the beginning of the day, I also have my paradoxes my things, I have fear of...
37:53so we have all this rapport with the body which is changeable you know, there are days, even sometimes I say why are you making this video and not the other? because this day I had to feel like I had to feel at my max, so it's not a reality which is all the time the same. But for me, I have this fear I have the fear, my the fear panic that I have with the girls it's the fear of anorexia I think it's very complicated. Il faut être très vigilant avec ça. Par exemple, si j 'ai le sentiment, je le reconnais. Ce n 'est pas bien. Parfois, je vais me sentir ballonnée et tout. Je vais me peser. Est-ce que j 'ai pris du poids ?
38:33Pourquoi je ne rentre plus dans ce jean ? Non, non. Et si mes filles me voient, ça me tétanise. Parce que je me dis, ça commence par là. En réalité, elles voient leur mère se peser et elles vont se dire, ah, ok, donc le poids, c 'est quelque chose d 'important pour maman. alors que non, c 'est juste que j 'ai une balance qui est là, j 'ai bouffé non-stop en tournée, je ne ferme plus un jean je me dis tiens, ça donne quoi ? mais c 'est un truc où on s 'est fait la réflexion avec mon mari de se dire, meuf si tu dois te peser tu ne te passes pas, il ne faut pas que les filles te voient parce que moi j 'ai vachement la trouille de ça et je trouve que quand je prends du recul sur ma bande de copines que ce soit d 'enfance, de prépa de l 'ESSEC, de tout il y a eu un bon 30 % et qu 'il y a eu des soucis de bouffe je ne sais pas si toi tu as vu ça no matter by the wives but yeah yeah yes venue but there no no ПА no yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Yeah yeah Cош my Hey Yeah Yeah they have access to networks, there's a pornographic and you don't know if they have access to that when they're young people and all.
39:36But I know that it's also a young woman, but I know that it's also a young woman. But for young women, it's something that really I stress. So you know, sometimes, the next time, my younger woman said, I have a big fat. I said, but it's too good. You have plenty of good yum-mum-mum that you have eaten. You touch your big fat. too well. She was like, yeah, it's too good to have a big one. I tried to make things like that because I said, it starts early. Yeah, yeah. I remember just that moment when I said that, when I was little, my mother told me to rent your vent, rent your vent. You know, when you're little and you have to go to the vent.
40:13Yeah, yeah. It was our age. It was really that, this time. But even you had to be on a thing on internet where they were doing comments. Even Love Actuality, where the Nana was depicted like the Nana grossed, it's what they said the most beautiful guy. And he said you're my grossed and you see the Nana, but she's not at all. Like all the specials rondes, or I don't know, who met a girl who made a 38 or the body positive with a... It's true. C 'est sûr que c 'est fou. Est-ce que tu as des lubies ou un truc précis ? Genre, tu te dis moi, ma force, physiquement ? Parce que je trouve qu 'on est tous très ambivalents par rapport au physique, parce qu 'à la fois, c 'est comme tout.
41:06À chaque fois, on dit « Ah, tu sais quoi, il faut bien vivre et truc et merde et tout, je ne sais pas quoi. » Et à la fois, c 'est quand même la manière de se présenter au monde. C 'est le premier truc quand on est une femme qu 'on commente. Enfin, je ne sais pas toi, mais c 'est hallucinant le nombre de commentaires, les premiers commentaires. C 'est fou. Enfin, c 'est avant qu 'elle ouvre sa gueule déjà, qu 'elle se lève les cheveux, before she was going to get her ass, before she was going to get her ass. Habit-toi autrement, je ne sais pas quoi. Moi, je trouve ça fou. Moi, un jour, dans la rue, il y a un mec qui m 'a dit « En vrai, tu es moche.
41:29» Oh ! Et tu te dis, c 'est quand même un... Et en plus, j 'avais vécu ça, je me sens que j 'étais abasourdie parce que je m 'étais dit « C 'est même pas comme si j 'ai essayé d 'être belle. » Ouais, enfin... Non, tu t 'es toujours habillée de façon assez... Normal. Asexuelle, en tout cas, mais plus à l 'époque. Beaucoup plus à l 'époque. Là, j 'ai eu un basculement. Yeah, where I'm going to get to have fun. It's a great deal. It's a great deal for the public. You think? Yeah, I think because it's not a phase of your life where you're also aligned with it. Yeah, after, you see, it's interesting because I was talking about my videos.
42:05I told you, I told you, when you post a photo of yourself, you're a little bit where you find yourself, you lose your followers. The people don't have a lot of fun to see. And it's interesting because I said, but already, I posted... And I think it's funny because I think that it's why I'm saying that there's a balance and a balance that's a physical balance that's a lot. Because I know that, for example, when I'm well in my peat, I don't have a problem to show. In other words, when I'm not really in my peat, I post a photo where I find very beautiful because I know that it's going to be a good feeling.
42:30The like, the flames, the stuff, the stuff, I don't know what. And I'm saying that there's a certain thing around that and in the same time, to remember where we're going. It's-by that at the base, we're humorists. It's got to be identified in us. That we've done this job because we have failed and that we feel... And that we want to be able to... But wait, I have enormous paradoxes. I remember on the shooting of my affiche, the photographer Charlotte had put in a great way, but quite moulant, quite fluid. And since my grossestes, my beard is not flat, he doesn't want to go back. So it was the day, we had well eaten, so boom, the beard is quite strong.
43:08Sauf that I told him, just tell me if I want to go back a little bit, because it gave this impression of a woman in the face. Yeah. You know, it gave me a message And I said, it's really not the message that I wanted to give you in the affiche and we had really this impression-like. And Charlotte looked at me in the way, well, you're really the woman who incarnated the way on the physical. And then you're doing a thing in the head with your hand from all of a sudden. Like, you're not aligned. And I was thinking, well, it's true. And in the same time, well, we have all these zones of insecurity.
43:38Yeah, but at the time, it's not just. It's like a thought hyper binaire. Ce serait comme se dire de quelqu 'un genre, Kate Moss, elle n 'a pas le droit d 'avoir des complexes, parce que c 'est Kate Moss. On sait très bien que ce truc-là, il est lié à ton éducation, à comment tu as été aimée, à comment tu as été vue, aux premières choses qu 'on a pu te dire. Mais bien sûr. C 'est bien plus complexe. Mais après, je pense aussi que j 'ai tellement aimé voir certaines stand-up-euses américaines jouer de cette complexité. Je ne sais pas si tu vois qui c 'est, Catherine Ryan. Non. Tu l 'adorerais. Va regarder cette fin.
44:11Catherine Ryan, elle a vraiment ce côté où elle va monter sur scène hyper belle et en même temps, pour le coup elle est très très refaite et elle en parle tu vois, elles sont fous, elle dit les gens ne me reconnaissent plus, ça me va je suis trop contente, tu vois, et elle a ce côté où parfois elle va se montrer vraiment pas ouf et on l 'aime dans les deux cas on aime le fait qu 'elle incarne la vraie femme c 'est -à-dire que parfois elle se réveille, elle est ouf genre typiquement jour d 'ovulation et puis elle s 'est maquillée et puis elle est trop belle and all that you want, and the day after, she doesn't want to and it's her also.
44:42But of course, it's that which is super agréable, and it's that which is super agréable in this thing where you say, I can pass from one to another and vary, and you hear always those words that you say, in this moment, she wants to play her, she wants to change her image, she's like, but in fact, I'm a woman, so there's a moment where I don't have anything to carry. Moi, it's bizarre, it's on scene that I don't have anything to carry. Moi, on scene, I can be at the rage total because I'm saying, it's really not the place, it's like, it's so terrible what I say about myself, but I'm saying, in the end, it's amazing to be able to get into a dinner you're not just an humorist you're not just an humorist I'm not sure I'm not a humorist but you're also an actress for the reason and you're at this point where you're in a person you know when I told you in the film The Mince Le Nom échappe le tableau volet it's crazy, on never saw it like that and you're so beautiful it's funny, I hate to me see I love the film but I'm saying at least it's cool it's not a thing to watch it's the affair of an real it's the thing he's content you're right you're right but we're all about to say there's people what did you say the other day I had a wife who told me I had an eye creed I didn't know what it was I saw very well because it's what's happening so I'm watching it all the time it's to say that she has an eye she's creused at the level of orbit yes, so-called it's a vieilli and I understand but what you prefer to have like me an enormous arcane sourcilière.
46:07No, but... Moi, avant, j 'avais ce qu 'on appelle les hooded eyes. Tu vois ou pas ce que c 'est ? Donc, j 'avais un peu... Un peu droupie. Un peu encapsulé, justement, un peu excès de machin. Ça me donnait les yeux pas très reposés, mais faussement en amende. Tu vois ? Et là, comme ça s 'est creusé avec la billesse, j 'ai les yeux qui font un peu plus comme ça. Tu vois, un peu plus... Et ça... En fait, je ne comprends pas. C 'est -à-dire qu 'elle a essayé de m 'expliquer son truc d 'œil creux. I'm trying to explain it. Yeah, it's a little bit about the same thing, but I don't know what I'm saying.
46:31He can't be autrement that creux. He can't be in a... He can't be in a... He can't be in a... You know what I'm saying? He can't be in a... He can't be in a crown. Eh bien, if you want, and we can put it on the spot, I'll put it on the spot. I'll put it in 15 years ago, I saw that he wasn't as creusé. It's when the... But it's normal. Enfin, the doctors explain it. They tell you that when you grow, it's a place where you're stigmatized. So you have the eye that's creused. Sauf that when you're... in any case, at least for me, it's creused, it depends. But certainly, if you look at photos of you there 15 years, you had the eye less creed.
47:04That's it? You have not too much creed. He's a little creed? No, he's not creed. No, he's not creed. No, he's not creed. But I think if you look at 15 years, you had a limit really not creed. You lose, everyone loses the weight of the weight. It's just that it was more high. But I mean, if you eat a little ravioli, it's really hard. Why ravioli? When I eat salad, I have the papiers like that. Ah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I have a test of QI for you. Oh wow. In fact, it's a cadeau and a test of QI. OK. It's a thing that I have bought it thanks to social media. Retinal Deep Collagen Boost Up Mask.
47:48It's a mask lift. And that, it works? I don't know. I don't know because I've never managed to put it in. And it's there that the test of QI begins. I bought three boxes. I have already flingued one. I think I asked to ask all my guests. And I'm going to put it on my own. If you want to read it. And really, don't hesitate to read it. Because at some times... Because my friend was there, but you didn't have to read it. You didn't have to read it. It's very good. It's always the same. It's not the same. You don't read it. It's not a problem of math. It's very easy. There's a thing. How to use. After cleansing.
48:22We're going to say that. Use toner or pad to prepare your skin. We don't have time. Then remove the clear skin. from the mask. Ok, ben je te laisse, enfin, franchement, c 'est un, en plus moi j 'ai aucune, tu vois, la preuve, j 'ai aucune patience, donc déjà je l 'ai très mal ouverte. Déjà elle a cassé le masque. Déjà je l 'ai cassé le truc. Mais toi t 'as fait une grande école, t 'étais chez Ido, si toi t 'y arrives pas. Vraiment, déjà ils te disent pas si tu dois enlever ça ou ça, genre. On est d 'accord, ça c 'est pas moi qui suis con, tu comprends pas quelle partie tu dois enlever. Alors,
48:56So I would say you would take that one Because the meuf Oh my God It's complex No, let's take that one There you know already that it's a fire, it's right? No, I don't know I've never managed So I'm really curious If you arrive in two seconds I'll feel very, very confused Ah no, I'm not sure It's not at all Like, I don't know where it goes It's to say that it's not a part of the face which has a look at the face. To my opinion, it's the mouth for the mouth. Because apparently, it's supposed to lift the... But the meuf has a little mouth. Who is the mannequin? I don't know. So, okay.
49:38There, we are at a little bit on the same thing. I don't understand. And there, it's going to take the thing again. Yes, I think. Vas-y, it's going to take me to take it. You want to take it? Wait. but after if it's raté we'll say that it's me then it's really a test of Q for you you're going to get it yeah I'm going to get it
50:01but wait but it's like the buttons on the rope which are all in the top and when you're celibate you do how to do it you see these types of rope which have these buttons there it's the same it's already it's already it's already it's always a good thing it's still very good but But, pardon, but quack. You have a name of a product of electric equipment. It's Korean? Yeah, I think it's Korean. But the other one is for the oil. But...
50:33Pardon, but... Because that, normally, after 30-40 minutes, it's like incredible. But my pool... Lift answers the definition of the jawline and the cheeks. Well, you already have a one of the most nickel, the other is going to be finished. It's like, it's too close. You can't do it. It's not working. No, but the thing is going to work. It's not working. I don't know. It's because of that you don't have to wear masks. It's because of that. But yes. But yes, I don't think that. I don't recommend that. If you don't come on this one, because in plus, she's like, you know, it's almost like a pansement.
51:06It's like she's supposed to take it off. I see very well. Les meufs prennent l 'avion en first avec. Mais ce n 'est pas celui où elles prennent l 'avion en first et à la fin du voyage, il ne la fait plus que la seconde. Déjà, pardon, mais si tu prends l 'avion en first, pourquoi je suis targuetée ? Déjà ? Donc ça ne marche pas. Tu n 'as pas gagné le test de QI, Marine ? Ah putain, mais je suis la première invitée. Peut -être les autres ne gagneront pas non plus. Je pense qu 'ils ne gagneront pas. Meuf hyper complexe. Je pense qu 'ils ne gagneront pas. C 'est qui les prochains invités ? Je ne sais pas encore, tu te rends compte ?
51:37Et alors là, Marine, pour terminer notre... In fact, the thing that I didn't know, I'm already a little hydrated. You sens? Oh, there you are. Just before the end of this podcast, Marine, I already thank you very much for being number one. I was too honored. I was too honored. And I'm not totally finished because I'm going to ask you to talk about your actuality, obviously. Ah, yes. Of the projects and all. And I would like to do your promo all the time in our show. You're going to do a photo. Then you're going to tell us your promo. You're going to tell us your promo. You can tell us your advice.
52:05I'm going to tell you my promo. I'm going to play my show Mauvaise Graine. Well, the anticsirne. Before I started, you know, it's like this. You know what I know, it's like this, right? It's a little in-dessous. And there, there. But never on the thing with the ride. Because it's going to fill in the thing. Wait, we're all listening to the same thing. The little thing, the little point of the road. We don't know why, but in any case, it's fine. I don't know why. And I'm going to put it there too. And so I play my show with my best grain. in France, and in tournée, and there are all the information on marineleonardi.com.
52:46Normal, there are masks. You do it with masks in the life? I have offered masks. I have a mask. I have a mask. I have tried some, but I have still have the reflex to really put in my hand. Because of an instant, you have this dizaine of masks. You know, it's intimidating the side where there are many pinceaux. But what I've done recently, and it's helped me, is to take a good pinceau for the blush. So, here I have my little pinceau. I hope I don't get too much.
53:24It's an old colleague of TAF who took a representation of this. And in fact, I think it's good to attend. It's hard to have on the side. You want to be put in the mirror? No, in the mirror, yes. But I think for the image, no. For the image, it's a little bit. But I've seen that you've put a little bit on your nez. Is that you've seen a woman say that it was a little bit bad? In fact, all the things where you have to do contouring on the neck, it's never worked on me. In other hand, to put a little bit on the side of the moon. Yeah. So, it's a carnage. I don't have too much粉. I'm a little more clear.
53:58I'm a little more chocolate. I don't know why I'm going to put this in my bag. So I have the eye a little snoopy I do not put it in the corner And I'm going to get a little bit But it's very bad I think it's pretty good And here, Gabrielle Giraud Who is a stand-up-up marseillaise Very promettent She has sent her mascara She has made her first And she had this mascara I had a clinic So I bought it the next day And then it was always It was always better on her Why? Why? No, but she used to do the cils. In fact, I was just saying, maybe she had just the cils. And I didn't know it. I didn't forget it.
54:37But I have a little gel. I have a got to be... I have an obsession with the cils. Ah, that's it. I was very well aware. They were very well. Yeah, because I don't like my cils. Before, I went to the speciality. Then I made even the brow lamination. I don't like it. It's what? It's a brow lift, right? Yeah. Is it that you've finished your tuto beauté? Yeah. You can tell them that it's all for today. You're doing what you want. You're happy with your physique? It's a question hyper aggressive. You're happy to be your physique? I'm really very violent. Ecoute, I'm just trying to tell you, because our auditors don't know what to say, but we're in the end of the day.
55:11I'm going to make it after we're going to make it. It's really for you. We're going to end the conclusion. Marine, I want to thank you again for infiniment, for a second time, for a second time. It was super. I'll talk to you again for hours with you. I don't know how to do it. Thank you, Marine. Thank you, Nora. You've listened to the first episode of In Apparence. Thank you for your listen. We'll see you soon for a next episode without filters, with more of sebum, of vergetures and love. Don't hesitate to like it, subscribe, put 5 stars on Apple Podcasts, Deezer, Spotify ou YouTube. I'll wait for you to tell us what you liked in this episode and who you want to listen to.
55:46And if it's been a fun, don't hesitate to share it. A very soon. It was Nora Mzaoui in Apparence. Thank you, Marie. Anti-age, makeup, lifting, slut shaving, botox, Intox, elle a morflé, contouring, la skin, masque, peau flasque, relâchement, cheveux blancs, acne, zone T, brillance, en apparence.
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