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4 Jun 2026 · 55m · 23 chapters

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Sarah Lélé, jeune et tranquille

In short

Sarah Lélé, jeune et tranquille explores how a young comedian builds confidence and a public persona—without “performing” femininity too much—while juggling stand-up career growth, body-image concerns, and the practicalities of appearance (makeup, hair, orthodontics, fitness).

Guest background

Sarah Lélé is a Belgian humorist who started performing around ages 12–14, with her first comedy club experience at about 15. She began stand-up seriously through her teens, paused/shifted during COVID, then developed her writing and show work (writing in 2023; show momentum through 2024–2025; reaching Paris in 2024). She studied law/politics (including international law) and speaks multiple languages (Spanish, French, English; learning Dutch; understanding Portuguese).

Key claims

confidence is primarily artistic; she avoids reading comments; she rejects roles that don’t match her nature; “image” management (stylists, makeup) can feel constraining; energy matters on stage more than perfect technique.

Notable examples

early stage at a small cabaret with ~12 people; her first stand-up “text” at school; orthodontic braces expanding her palate; long hair sessions (about 3 hours); fitness via a 5-12-30 cardio machine; and her preference for minimal makeup despite others expecting it.

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Chapters

1:57

Initial Banter and Compliments

The hosts engage in light-hearted conversation and compliments about appearances.

“But you know, sometimes I'm going to feel it.”
3:00

Perspectives on Makeup and Beauty

Discussion on personal beauty standards and experiences with makeup.

“At the moment, your nez, you don't want to.”
6:20

Confidence and Public Perception

Exploring how public perception affects self-confidence and artistic expression.

“In any case, the other day I was in a tournage, and it was a bad thing, I was wearing a mask.”
8:01

Early Beginnings in Comedy

Sarah shares her journey starting comedy at a young age and her inspirations.

“It's going to be a girl Exactly You're going to be a camera You look at these things, you?”
13:14

Performing in Front of an Audience

Insights on the challenges and energy dynamics of performing live.

“So you're on stage in a comedy club at 14-15 years?”
14:00

Early Stand-Up Experiences

Learn about Sarah Lélé's journey into stand-up comedy as a young artist.

“So there are other people who are drows.”
17:00

Navigating the Stand-Up Scene

Discover how Sarah navigated the stand-up comedy scene and developed her style.

“because I started, I had 14 years, until my 17 years, I made the plateaus.”
21:40

Pursuing a Career in Comedy vs. Diplomacy

Explore the contrast between Sarah's ambitions in comedy and her interest in diplomacy.

“and you find yourself a-up-up, and you don't have a makeup, I don't understand.”
24:30

Challenges in Authenticity and Casting

Delve into the challenges Sarah faces with authenticity in casting and performance.

“Maybe not by creators, but who have a little bit...”
28:00

Casting Challenges and Identity

Explore the complexities of casting and personal identity in the entertainment industry.

“just because it's not but it's going to be a good opportunity you're going to have that no, I don't want to Yeah Oui, oui, puis franchement, c 'est...”
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28:40

Managing Emotions and Mental Health

Learn about the importance of mental well-being and techniques to manage emotions.

“But after, it takes the head, these things.”
29:45

Fitness Routines and Lifestyle

Discuss various fitness routines and their impact on health and weight management.

“beginning sometimes you evite things like that sports and meditation yeah you go how much You're a lot?”
30:31

Body Image and Weight Loss

Delve into the conversations around body image, weight loss challenges, and societal standards.

“Because I don't want to do it every day, the 5-12-30.”
31:40

Beauty Standards and Self-Care

Examine societal beauty standards and the importance of self-care practices.

“I have the feeling that you'll be able to do my job.”
34:28

Orthodontics and Personal Experiences

Share personal experiences related to orthodontics and their impact on confidence.

“I'm so happy to have invited, I have the impression of being validated by a specialised.”
36:49

Aesthetics and Personal Expression

Discuss the significance of aesthetics and personal expression in daily life.

“I've already had changes between the moment where I was...”
42:00

The Struggles of Beauty Routines

Discussing the challenges and time involved in beauty routines.

“But at least you say, during that, I've done that, that, that, that, that.”
43:38

Fashion Choices and Preferences

Exploring fashion choices, particularly regarding bras and comfort.

“Yeah, but after I feel that it's a constraint for nothing at all.”
45:05

Body Image and Self-Perception

A candid conversation about body image and personal aesthetics.

“Mais l 'entre-deux, le sein comme ça, je ne sais pas comment dire, ça faisait comme si mon sein était triste.”
46:46

Skincare and Personal Care Practices

Discussing skincare routines and the importance of body moisturization.

“but you didn't see you said I don't know like if I didn't have a thing with some accessories around no no bikini and all you put a piece?”
48:09

Cellulite Treatments and Expectations

A discussion on cellulite treatments and the expectations surrounding them.

“Well, imagine that on a black, and it's black.”
49:28

Movie References and Celebrity Crushes

Lighthearted conversation about favorite movies and celebrity crushes.

“It's that maybe it could be a long jambes.”
56:01

Discussion on Upcoming Events

The hosts discuss upcoming performance dates and festivals.

“And I'm going to continue and continue to continue to make the photos of Matthew for seeing what you say.”
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1:28We're in the top with the team. We're very happy. I'm very happy. Thank you. I want to continue like this. It's a very joyous. The guest that I receive today is an humorist who has to confirm the reputation of the Welsh. Decidely, she's cartoon, the meufs. At 14 years, she's already launched a punchline. 14 years. Franchement, it's going to talk about it. I, at this age, I had to eat yes before Beverly Hills in hoping to have a day ressembler to Kelly. I'd say that my guest is surely not the rest of it, because she has almost 20 years of less than me. I'm very, very happy to receive Sarah Lelé dans, in appearance.

1:57Yeah. I'm so happy Thank you for the invitation Thank you Franchement, we've already started to talk Off-record I'd just say something Which doesn't look at the image And doesn't sound for those who don't look at it Sarah feels extremely good Oh, thank you Thank you, my compliment I think it's beautiful I don't know if I have the right to say You have the right to say Incroyable I love this It's very good. Yeah, we're all right. I'm going to feel it. You know, it's a good impression. But it's super good. I'm very sensitive to it. Yeah, I also. It's why I... But you know, sometimes I'm going to feel it.

2:37So I'm panicking. Yeah. I'm going to put it on. But I'm going to put it on too. And you put it on too much time? It's been a year. It's a young one. Ah, it's a young relationship with the perfume. No, because before, you know, I put the perfume that we offered at Christmas. Every time I wasn't satisfied. So I took the time to go to a perfume and choose really... Hyper hard, I think. It's impossible. At the moment, your nez, you don't want to. Yeah, it's too complicated. In addition, you tell me what you want, you bring a thing, frère. I said, no, I don't think it's that. It's super complicated to know.

3:11It's a bit of fruit, frère, basset. Acid. I feel that it's good. It's proper. Ah, yeah. Is it a bit of a coquette? I think it's a bit of a coquette. No, not at all. Si. Non, non, c 'est parce que tu m 'as, genre je me suis coiffée avant-hier. Mais je ne suis pas coquette. Ah ouais ? Quoi ? Non, mais Anne-Sophie, elle m 'a dit, ne te maquilles surtout pas pour l 'interview. Je me suis déjà maquillée un jour. Je lui ai dit, Anne-Sophie, tu me vois chaque fois. Je ne me maquille pas. Tu n 'es pas maquillée du tout, là ? Zéro. Comment ça ? Non, mais c 'est injuste, en fait. Non, non, tu es fou de ma gueule ou quoi ?

3:46Mais je ne suis pas maquillée ? Non, arrête, tu blagues. Mais si, mais regarde. But no, I just put the cream Ah ouais, but it's unjust But it's the jeunesse Franchement, it's the jeunesse But you look at me But just But I'm triching today Because when I was out of the train I really looked at my head And I was like, I'm going to go wrong No, but you've got to put it on the beach Yeah, I've got to put it on the beach Okay, I did too Yeah, I've got to put it on the beach Okay, I'm not sure And you've got the beach natural of life Yeah, I'm not, I'm not sure I'm not, I'm not It's always weird because I don't have the taste of the makeup.

4:19So when we're making, we say, you're a good one. I'm like, whatever. Yeah, because when you're on the plate, on the TV, you're not. I don't know. You're not. I'm asking you what you want. I said, do what you want. I'm asking you to do what you want. And you're asking me when it comes to you? Franchement, I'm not kidding. I don't even know the eye of the makeup. You're too lucky. I don't know if it's a chance. Because when I go on the scene, sometimes I have my makeup in Belgium. She says, you're dead. I don't know how to make her hair, but I'm not wearing it. I'm not capable of recognizing it.

4:50But it's always the way to make it. It's like in the life, all the time, you're not wearing it. Yeah, I'm not wearing it. I tried to be wearing it, but it made me feel too aware of myself. I saw exactly what you wanted to say. Is it still there? I can't eat because I can't eat. Or I put a little juice. But I was going to verify that I didn't see behind. At the moment, I was thinking, you know what? Yeah. If each morning I think that's not a good thing. But in your family, you comment on the physique? Or when you were little, you would make compliments on the physique? In my family, I don't have the impression of...

5:27No. But what I always said, it was a nice smile. It was a nice smile. Yeah, but it was a nice smile. So every time I was just... And I had my own eyes. In fact, my eyes were really... And on you said already that? Yeah. I love it. Yeah, really. But I remember when I was 14, 15, I saw all my friends They were wearing makeup and everything I didn't do it, I didn't do it, I didn't do it And every time I did it, people would say Oh my God I love it But you're there No, no, no, no I didn't do it Okay, tomorrow, you saw I was negligent Yeah, I didn't do it So no, I didn't do it I would have been in the way When I saw some women, I was in the way I would have been too much But well Well, it's not too late, but the tendency is to get people who want to wear a mask, and not to wear a mask, and not to wear a mask.

6:13I have the impression, I say maybe n 'importe what, but I have the impression that we are going to pass to this thing where people had the same eyes of the same filter, and everyone wanted to have the same eyes of the same thing, and a thing where people say, you know what, I like to do it, I'm very good, I can wear a mask. In any case, the other day I was in a tournage, and it was a bad thing, I was wearing a mask. And they were going to say, in real, you're a beautiful girl. Yeah, you know, it's insupportable. I had a bad. I had a bad idea. Well, I had a bad idea. But it's always the bad things.

6:43You know, it's the bad things you see on Insta. But I had a bad idea. That's what I said. The men found women not maquillant. Not for me. Because I had a bad idea. Oh, no, it's a bad idea. And I was like, I was like. In addition, I was like. I was like, I was like. That's what I was going to do. This evening, I was going to leave. And I was going to do it. To you were not at all complex? I was not at all complex. I was at all complex, but... But after, it's an impression of meuf. You see the other thing, you're in the mood... And you see the other thing, you're in the mood... It's horrible and you don't hide it.

7:21So I was so complex. I was always... When you fermes your shoulders, I was like that for a long time. Even now, sometimes I can see, I'm a little enfermée. But now I'm a little more. You can see the comments like Lala, you're a girl It's a girl It's a second or two And then I'm going to be in the mood Bah, I'm a fool Yeah, it's true But I think you're young I'm not sure Otherwise, it's going to destroy the mental Yeah, you're right And then it's also That you're in a job Super young So if you're in a job If you're in a job Because in fact, I think I was forced to make it When I started to be public And that's where you're there In fact, it's going to be It's going to be a girl Exactly You're going to be a camera You look at these things, you?

8:05What's that? The comments, the things you want? No, I'm so scared. Ah, yeah? I'm so scared of seeing something that will really touch me. After, I often say, the things that you touch the most, it's when it comes from your entourage. The people, they don't know you, they comment on what they see. But yeah, I try not to watch because it can be in an adolescent that I don't have to have. And then after, on scene, I have a lot of confidence in what I say and what I do in terms of artistic. that I'm quite secure, so I'm not going to watch. I'm like, yeah, what I've done, it's good. Yeah, it's great.

8:38And do you think it's also that, like, find your good job, your job, because you said earlier, when you were younger, when you were young, when you were young, when you were young, when you were young, when you were young, you didn't come to compare professionally? Yeah, totally. That's great. But by the way, my confidence in terms of artist, it's too... Really, there... No, but really, for a second degree, I don't compare anyone. I don't look at anyone. and when I post something, I'm sure. I'm not sure I'm going to leave it after because I've had two or three comments. In my mind, the comments are false.

9:10Yeah. But it's your first advice. It's your first perspective. So at a moment, if you're not a client of what you do. Exactly. But I'm so sure. And it's maybe the only thing I'm also sure. All the rest, you can have a little... With two or three words, I can maybe douter. But artistically, it's good. I'm going to go. And you're going to go, by example, I think posting a thing, you can love it but with the social media, it's so much is it you ask when you ask is it going to work, is it going to work or is it you say I love it I love it, I think it's good it's apart and in fact, I don't like to post it because in my head, it's I know that it's really good what I do so come to see and you'll see but if you don't come to it's really very arrogant but I'm like, you're lost and you're not sure I don't ask too much questions and it's why people want to post it and they're like this blague, they're worth being on the réseau and all that, I'm like no, they're worth being seen and really, they're worth being I know, but it's really the thing that you're doing when you have a show that you're doing and you say there's a show on the scene, what's happening in the scene it's crazy, and in the meantime, it's about to put things in the room, it's for that I've done a podcast it's for that I've done it but at the moment we can put things that are not just our work on the scene, and I don't know I'm filming in my room, I don't know I don't know, it's not, it's not You started at what age, precisely, the scene?

10:32Yes, it was 14 years old. Maybe a little bit later, but I said 14 years because... I don't know why I said 14 years old. It was in this zone, it was in sixth grade, fifth grade. Yes, it's that. Yes, maybe between 12 and 14. But I remember, one of the times where I said, that's a text that I wrote, I was going to say, it was really 14 years old. Ding! Yes. But you knew the stand-up? You saw it? I didn't know that. I didn't know that Gad Elmaleh. Ah, yeah. Yeah. Really, Papa est en haut. We had the enregistrement with my friend and my sister. And it was really that we watched. But I didn't know what I was doing.

11:08Well, I didn't know what I was doing. Well, I didn't know what I was doing now. No, not at all. You didn't watch the American. Exactly. Nothing at all. Just Gad. Papa est en haut. It's not Gad. It's Papa est en haut, this show. And it was at the time where he was also... My bank to me. I don't know if he was a call. You didn't know what I was doing? No. Oh, he was with... It was who? It was a credit for agriculture, I believe. I don't know. It was a bank, in any case. And Optic 2000, with DVD, they were there. And I had the impression... I didn't know that it was a job that he was in the field.

11:35I thought it was someone who was funny. And on asked him to talk. On asked him to talk every time. Because I saw him in my bank, and I saw him on my own. I said, it's just someone who knows very well. He's very funny. And so, we asked him to do plenty of stuff. It's super funny. But what's not completely funny. Exactly. It's a bit of that. And so, when I saw it, it was very arrogant. I was in the mood, but I could do it. In the mood, what he does, it's not... He does it. He does it with 2000 people. That's a bit the biggest difficulty, because it's necessary to bring 2000 people. I was aware that he brought 2000 people.

12:09It's listening to them for one hour and a half. And then I was in the mood, that's strong. But if you're in a small scale, you put 20 people in front of me. I can't do it. But I don't think that arrogant what you say. Because in fact, if there's a moment where we decided to do that, it's that at the end, we said, I'll be able to get there. It's an thing where you believe. And you know, there are a lot of people that I think super talentueux. I didn't have the culture. In fact, we looked at the American, because I watched the time, I watched the movie, but my brothers and sisters watched it. And so I saw this guy who told his stories, and I was thinking, oh, it's too good.

12:45I didn't have a sense of this job, but I just saw a guy who told his stories. I didn't even know because it was in VO, it was for the big ones. but I remember the joy that it was given to my friends and sisters who were mad at me. And I thought that was too good. In fact, I liked more what it was provoking to people than what he did. And I know that what I wanted to do was to do that, it was that I didn't have a model. I thought it was a thing that you made super free. In fact, it's a thing that is based on your singularity, on who you are, that you think I can go and go. It's kind of fun. It's kind of fun.

13:15Yeah, it was like that. So you're on stage in a comedy club at 14-15 years? At 14 years, I started to do a thing at school. They put 100 people in the end. They do that. And then there was a lady, it was a teacher who was not my teacher. She saw that. And she was in a comedy club. I didn't know there was in Belgium. Because I wasn't in a professional. I was a little lower in a place called the Brabant-Ouallon. And she told me, I know a comedy club at Charleroi. I think you should do it. And my parents were in the mood. but let's go if you want. We're going. And then I'm on the scene. It was about a year later.

13:53Maybe 15 years. 15 years ago, I was in the first comedy club. And then it's different because at school, I was the only humorist, between the end. There you go, you're in a lineup. So there are other people who are drows. And many people, especially. Even not, in fact. When I go, we have more women than women. Ah, great. There was Dana, me and a woman who called Julie Geller. And the two boys. two girls, on was majoritaires. And so when I arrived, I said, there are people drôles avant me and there are people drôles after me. So I have to take the route. Because it's good to be drôle to your level, but with other people, it's not that the public is really nul.

14:34So I'm on the scene and in fact, it's really a question of energy. If you believe, they will believe in your story. So I had really des discours d 'enfants. Oui, c 'est normal. C 'est la question que je me pose. Tu racontes quoi à 14-15 ans ? Du collège-lycée. Moi, comment vous appelez ça ? Ma CPL a fait ci, et puis après, j 'ai fait ça. Mais en effet, la manière de le dire est l 'énergie. C 'est l 'énergie et tout. Et eux, ils voyaient ça. Les autres humoristes, ils voyaient l 'énergie. Ils étaient en mode, ok, le texte, ça va avancer. Mais l 'énergie, il y a vraiment un truc. Viens à Bruxelles.

15:10Et puis là, j 'allais à Bruxelles. And there, in fact, there were a lot more guys. Because there were a lot more people. And so, there were a lot more guys. And you're coming in a line-up. I was 15, 16 years old. My mother accompanied me. There was one that talked about his bitch. Then the other that talked about his bitch. And the mother who looked at him. It's kind of a joke. And they're telling me. They finish. And then, I don't know. I don't know. And the next one, Sarah Lélé. Oh, no, no. I was going to go on my own. After my mother said, all right, we're going to go home. Because there are things that are so many.

15:45It's great. My mother, she saw me in the first time that she was going to see me. I think it was in this little theater called Le Bou. I don't know if you see it. It's like a little bit. There was one called Le Bou Rond and one called Le Bou Carré. It was an old room and it was an old room. The Pip Show, Le Bou Rond, at Pigalle, entourée, in fact, of sex shop. My mother arrived and she said, what's she chose? Come on. In the public, there are 12 people. And I take a bite. And she gets it. In the hell. She gets it. She gets it. In fact, she gets it. She gets it. I think she gets it. And she gets it.

16:22And she gets it. And it's like, it's a nightmare. Oh, no, Tina. Aïe, aïe. I don't know why. But we start all in a place like that. I knew it was only that. It was only that cabaret. On had a cabaret queer. des trucs de drag queens, des cabarets lesbiens. Mes parents, ils m 'amenaient. Ce n 'était pas mes parents, c 'était ma mère. Elle m 'amenaient. Elle était vraiment en mode, ah, c 'est une voix. Vraiment, elle ne savait pas où se mettre des fois. Et j 'étais en mode, moi, je ne le voyais même pas. En vrai, j 'avais 15 ans. Moi, j 'étais juste épatée. Genre, les gens viennent voir et tout. Genre, en mode.

16:56C 'est génial. Mais du coup, tu as travaillé hyper jeune. Tu as commencé quand à vraiment avoir ton spectacle, à y aller, à faire ? Beaucoup plus tard. because I started, I had 14 years, until my 17 years, I made the plateaus. At 17 years, there was the Covid. So it was in 2019, I had 16-17 years. And after the Covid, so it ends 2020-2021, we start to get out. I don't know how to go to university. Attends, you have to get to that age? There, I have 23. Yeah, it's that. Yeah, it's that. 20 years less than I. Every time, she calculates it. It's always 20. It's not a change. It's funny because the Covid, it's a weird thing.

17:35It's a weird thing. It's a weird thing, the Covid. Even me, I'm in a way of knowing. 2021, it's been five years. So Covid, you don't have any spectacles? No, I'm not doing that. I don't know the stand-up that I don't know what the formula is. I don't know what to do. In my head, I'd do 15 minutes all my life. So it's great. You're super armed. You're a music by heart. You're there. You're a music. After that, when I'm back, because after the Covid, So I was going to university. And then I started my license. And during my license, as I was at Bruxelles, I continued the stand-up. And when I arrived, I was already a little adult.

18:11So people tell me, you don't want to do 15 minutes all your life. 15 minutes, then you do 30, 45, and then 1 hour. And then I say, ah, it's really a thing. And then I start to do my culture of stand-up. I start to discover the other stand-upers. Blanche Gardin, Florence Foresti, that I saw when I was young. But I said, Ah oui, donc c 'est elle. Ok, je comprends. On me parle de Romane Frécinet, de Farid. On en a parlé juste en off. Exactement. Mais dis-toi, moi, je les connais en 2022. Je commence à comprendre qui ils sont. 2022, c 'était hier, littéralement. Donc, je suis en mode, ah ok, d 'accord.

18:49Lui, il a ce style-là. Lui, il fait ça comme ça. Lui, il écrit comme ça. D 'accord. Ok, moi, qu 'est-ce que je dois faire ? Je n 'avais même pas quoi faire. Je me suis... On m 'a dit, vas-y, écris, écris. Donc, moi, je n 'avais pas d 'objectif. Dans ma tête, c 'est juste écrit. And so I wrote, I wrote, I wrote And then in 2023 I started to write the script Because I was in the middle of my head, I had a lot of stuff We were talking about everything And then in 2023 I started my show, I started in a row In 2024 I arrived at Paris Then in 2025, it was the last year And then in 2026 And so you start your show So it's the first show, you tell me You tell me, I'm going to put the subject To a more superficial thing for the podcast Is it you tell me to find a scene for example Ah, c 'est intéressant parce que là, je commençais à avoir une équipe de management et tout ça.

19:37Et eux, ils me disent, maintenant, tu dois avoir une image parce que tu me montes sur scène. Et ils me disent, regarde, tous les humoristes qui sont là, ils ont une certaine image. Est-ce que tu veux ton image à soi ? Comme si, comme ça. Donc, on commence à me ramener des maquilleuses, stylisme et tout ça. Pour moi, c 'est tellement prise de tête. Ah ouais, je comprends. Dans ma tête, c 'est... Après, c 'est difficile parce que j 'ai l 'impression que c 'est un truc que tu as déjà, en fait, non ? Moi ? Oui, tu as ton image. Qu 'est-ce qu 'il faudrait travailler ? Tu vois ce que je veux dire ? Moi, je n 'ai jamais conscientisé tellement le fait de me dire, viens, on va...

20:11Si, je me souviens que mon tout premier spectacle, il y a un moment où j 'ai un espèce de déclic de me dire, OK, pendant un moment, mais bon, c 'était même pas... Mais où j 'avais mon chignon et mes lunettes et je me disais, ce sera facile, on dira, c 'est la fille qui a le chignon et les lunettes. OK. But you know, it was not that I was just myop and I had the hot and the shoes I had to say, you know what I mean? But it's true that for example, for the second show, I was like, oh, I have a lot of money. I was like, yes, but it's a mess. Because for the people, I'm a female. But I think that...

20:40And for example, I've never found a team of scenes. Ah, yeah? No, but I was forced to me to be able to do it. Because when I started the stand-up in 2021-2022, when the COVID-19 termine, I'm at the middle of the... I'm trying to make a license. And in the same time, I'm doing stand-up. Droit et sciences politiques Tu l 'as eu ? Oui Tu ne fais que trois semaines de droit Ah ouais ? Oui il faut s 'accrocher C 'est dur C 'est très dur C 'est comme des maths je trouve Oui oui Beaucoup plus que comme du français C 'est hyper dur Oui oui c 'est compliqué En vrai c 'est compliqué Mais je l 'ai fait Et puis voilà j 'ai cadassé ça J 'étais en mode Génial Mais donc du coup tu n 'es pas genre spécialisée en droit d 'auteur Pour pouvoir tout contrôler toi-même Et être ta propre boss C 'est vrai Mais droit d 'auteur c 'est compliqué Ben tout est Droit déjà c 'est compliqué Moi je le genre Ouais j 'avoue j 'avoue But there were really things where I found it easier.

21:25Like the international law, I found it really easy. Ah, really? I was a dream of being diplomate. Ah, really? Yeah. So the international law, it was very fluid for me. But the law of auteurs, the law of an enterprise... But wait, it's fascinating. How young, like that, to your dream of being diplomate, and you find yourself a-up-up, and you don't have a makeup, I don't understand. I don't understand the intérieur. George. No, but the international law... Well, I don't know. I liked it. I liked it. I liked it. I liked it. I liked it. I liked it. I liked it. I liked it. to defend your interests, speak several languages, speak a lot of languages.

21:58And you speak a lot of languages? Yes. I was ready for the competition in Belgium. I was ready. You speak what? I speak Spanish, French, English, That's true. After I was learning the Netherlands, they told me, I said, we'll see later. But the Portuguese, I can understand a lot. But I participated in the seminars, international simulations. I was all over the UN and all. What? Quoi ? Oui, je te promets, j 'étais prête. Et tu veux y retourner ? Non ? Tu préfères largement la scène, non ? Oui, je préfère la scène, mais en vrai, il y a un truc que j 'aime bien dans le droit international, la diplomatie, je ne sais pas, ça me fascine.

22:35Ça me fascine. Alors là, tu es vraiment sur deux carrières très différentes. Oui, et en plus, ils ne sont pas combinables. Non, clairement pas. Non, pas du tout. Et alors, attends, mais tes parents, ils se disent qu 'elles voulaient être diplomates, elles se retrouvent scène de peau, c 'est au cas avec eux ? Je ne sais pas si c 'était au cas avec eux. Moi, je ne leur avais pas trop demandé. I was just in the mood, it's what I want to do. I didn't talk about my ambitions with my parents. Just, I was in the mood. I was doing it. And in my head, it was sure and certain that when I was finished my third year of license, I would have a very good level of stand-up.

23:07And I'm sure that all the occasions that I need to have will be profiling for that I choose one of the two. You know, at the end of my third year of license, I have a lot of opportunities at the level international level diplomat. So at the end of my third year, I had a lot of opportunities for the stand-up. I was sure. And I did things. And then I finished my third year, I had a production French, which I called, production Belgian, Jamel Comedy Club and all that. So I knew I was going to choose. It was hard to choose? No, no. It was natural. I knew that it was natural. It was natural. So I took the door.

23:42And when you tell me, there's a team, stylists, I don't know what, images and all, but... But you know, when the Covid ends, I do the license and the stand-up in the same time. But it was like how I went on the scene. I was dressed in a way. Sometimes I went with my sack at the back. I didn't have a thing to do. But really, you saw me... Sack at the back. Sort of school. Yes, but it's why they said, you need to do something. On can't let you go every time. I went with my manteau. I was like, really, a little bit of a foot. Yeah, but it's nice. Yeah, it's the first minute. I had 19 years old. I was laughing.

24:24But in real life, you would see it. I was in a immense room with a amazing thing. I was created by I don't know which creators. No, but who comes with you? There are people who adore it. But who does it? In humorist. Are you really want to cite? In humorist. By creators, Arma and all? Maybe not by creators, but who have a little bit... For example, the Americans, I think they're putting more the stuff. It's true, it's true. Zainab Johnson, I know she's all the time dressed in a mode incredible. She's got plenty. Nikki Glaser and even, how do they call it, Amy Schumer. All right, they're coming.

25:03It's maybe for their specials and for Netflix, it's for the stuff. But even, I'm saying, there, the captage, I don't want to get in. It changes your way of moving. It changes everything. You know, when you're at a time, it's okay. But it's true that when you're too worried about what I'm doing, I'm from a little bit too self-conscious. Because it's also in terms of the position you have. Because often, the stylists tell you, when you do this, it's going to be like this. So, do that. When you're going to get you, it's going to be like this. Because in fact, you have your poitrine. And so, you have your collier.

25:36And then... I'm going to stop at school. s 'il vous plaît, laissez-moi tranquille. Non, je ne ferai pas ça moi perso. Quand j 'étais petite, j 'avais qu 'une seule hâte, c 'était de bosser. Je rêvais d 'être boulangère, fromagère, libraire. J 'imaginais, femme indépendante, avoir ma propre boutique et être la patronne de mon petit commerce. Ce sentiment d 'indépendance, je l 'ai finalement gagné sur scène grâce à mes spectacles. Mais si je devais réaliser cet autre rêve d 'enfant, bon, je ne sais pas ce que je vendrais, peut -être ma marque de skincare ou de maquillage, mais j 'utiliserais sans doute Shopify qui sponsorise cet épisode.

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27:05Après, s 'il y a des shootings photos, des défilés, des trucs, des front-raux, where you will find the cinema. You want cinema? There, no. I love that you say that. I think it's too good. I've had a question with a scenario, brother. Just in talking about appearance, a scenario where you say you're going to play the role of someone who doesn't trust you, who's wrong, who's never successful, and all. Until then, I thought, if it's a role, there was a note of the producer, of the real estate. I don't know. But you're not. you have to be really that you want to be I'm not at all like that I can't be so it's not your nature so it's not your nature so you give me a role that I'm going to play so you say it's me that you want but then it's not me that so I don't want to and so each time it was with my manager it was like, listen to the script until the end, the scenario until the end because I don't accept it just because it's not but it's going to be a good opportunity you're going to have that no, I don't want to Yeah Oui, oui, puis franchement, c 'est...

28:09Enfin bon, après, ça dépend, une fois de plus. Parfois, t 'as des projets géniaux qui tombent et tout, mais tourner pour tourner... Ben, j 'attends, hein. Oui, oui, mais en effet, les erreurs de casting, de aussi pas te prendre pour ta vraie nature... Ben, moi, avec mon nom, je peux te dire, j 'en ai eu plein avant de faire du stand-up, mais des castings où j 'arrivais, on me disait, mais je comprends pas, t 'es pas typée pour toi de t 'appeler un avis, je savais typé quoi, en fait. En fait, mes cousins, mes frères et sœurs, ils sont comme moi, ils sont pas, ils ont fait mon nom, I don't know what you're talking about.

28:36And there are plenty of things where you say, it's complicated. Yeah, it's a thing. And when you go to the... You don't have to say... I don't know. No, you don't. I don't know. I don't know. She's strong. Oh, she's got to understand. She's got to understand. Franchement. No, but really. But after, it takes the head, these things. After, you go. You try to make fun. And then, in fact, I try to do the most that my head is calm. Because otherwise, I become uncomfortable. And it's better for everyone that I will stay at home. If I go there and I'm not happy, but I try again, but little by little, I'm not happy, I'm not happy, I'm not happy.

29:11At the end, I'm not cool. But you're looking pretty sane. I try. You're doing sport? Yeah, a little bit. What? I'm going to go. I'm going to go to max. And then my manager, he's also in the meditation. Because I'm really... Sometimes I can be in anger. you know I'm not good and a little impulsive and all that you know it's a kind of thing I try to avoid it because you do that and then it's a stash and then when it explodes you give a bad image of yourself so you could avoid just in listening to the beginning if you listen to the beginning sometimes you evite things like that sports and meditation yeah you go how much You're a lot?

29:55One hour. One hour per day. What? What? What, one hour per day? You're a lot of hours. Every day? Yes. Even in tournée. Arrête. I promise. I see people who are running at 20 km heure. I'm a lot of hours. I'm a little bit, but for one hour. Oh, but... You're 23 years. I don't want to run one hour. No. In this moment, I'm going to be put on the 5-12-30. I don't know if you're going to talk. What's that 5-12-30? I don't know. You can do things in inclination and all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see. But it's for the loss of weight, it's all. Yeah. Okay. But it works. Yes, it works. But how long? But how long?

30:31Well, my sister also. You can't walk a once and then say... But how many... Because I don't want to do it every day, the 5-12-30. But... No, but you don't want to do it every day, I think. No. I don't want to do it twice. I don't want to do it twice a week. It's perfect. You know, plus you're fine, plus it's complicated to lose weight. It's going to take time. You know, I don't know. I don't know. If you're much more round, you're going to lose your weight. But more you're going to get more difficult, more it's going to need effort. You understand? I bought a new balance in which they tell you all the things.

31:09And the balance type of body, she wrote Obese Invisible. Obese Invisible? I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Nora, you're going to have a application. there. Eh bien, it's not fair. It's not fair. You don't torture for nothing. You don't torture for nothing. But the rate of fat is too big. Too important. Fit days. I don't know that's not. Maybe we're going to be able to do that on the montage. But the rate is okay. Efface this application. It's not working. Efface this application. It's not working. Just just listen. Listen. If it takes the head you don't do it. But in real it'll take the time. If you want really see the effects.

31:50I don't know what you're trying to do. You want to do what? I'd like to do it. In fact, I'd like to do several things. I'd like to do it. I have the feeling that you'll be able to do my job. I don't know why it's not that. I'm not sure what you want. I'm not sure what you want. I'd like to be able to do it a little more. I'd like to do it a little more. I don't know if it exists. Allonger your legs? You think it's going to work? It's going to do it? I'm doing it. Pilates sur machine pour les allonger. Et genre, ça va allonger tes jambes ? Un peu, un peu. Nora. Je veux muscler partout. Ok, ok, ok.

32:26Muscler, muscler. Et enlever toute la bouée. Ok, on veut tous enlever la bouée. On veut tous... Mais abdos ? J 'ai plein d 'abdos, mais j 'ai une énorme couche de graisse autour. Ok. Parce que je ne fais pas de cardio, en fait. Il faut faire du cardio. Là, je fais le 5-12-30. Ok, ça fait cardio, ça ? Quand même, je suis rouge après. Je suis rouge et en âge. Ah, mais c 'est pas comme ça qu 'on regarde ? Ah bon ? Comment on sait ? How do I know? It's your rhythm cardiac. It's how much? Cardio, I think it's from 160. I'm sorry. It's a lot of sense. It's not a VCs, it's not a cardio. No, it's 170 AVCs.

32:59Ah, it's only a 10. Wait, wait. 170 AVCs, you don't say that. It's not AVCs, but you push your heart. You push really your heart. You're not AVCs, but you push your heart. It's obvious that I don't push it enough because I'm not talking. You don't have to talk. You're in cardio. Yeah. Yeah, you can't discuss it. But you're cardio when you're going? Endurance. Ah. Endurance. And it's what the difference? Cardio, it's pushing your heart. Endurance, it's really... It's a habit to a certain rhythm. You know? In pushing your cardio, you can sort of your endurance. Your endurance is somewhere. If you push your cardio, it's going to change.

33:37It's going to change. Okay, now it's it. Wait, cardio, it's going to do what? For losing the weight? Yeah, losing the weight. Endurance, it's not losing the weight? Endurance, it's losing the weight. which is different. And the calories, it's not in the graze? For losing the graze... I just want to play with that. You play with that. The people who look at it, I talk about all this. There's a thing of caramel with a salad on the table because I'm going to tour in Bretagne and it's my dinner. Ah, yeah? So, in fact, really, nothing's going on. No, it's not. You can allow me to do a little caramel.

34:08Yes, it's not. It's not. It's a pleasure, no? You're doing 5-12-30. I'm doing 5-12-30. And then, I'm doing a little machine. You know, I'm in a sport where there's a room for women's women's women's women's women's women's women. The girl never goes on air. Okay, I don't know. Okay, but it's cool, it's super fun. You do the night and all? I do not, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, it's good, it's good. Yeah. Yeah.

34:36I'm so happy to have invited, I have the impression of being validated by a specialised. I'm going to judge people. I'm going to say, it's a sport. It's just that I'm a lot of document. It's true that you're a lot of document. Yeah, of a lot. But also on the alimentation, the hygiene of life, you're super careful. I'm not hyper careful. But you're doing a lot. But I'm trying to make a lot of gaffe. I don't even know. Yeah, I see. But how many of you do of repas per day? I eat the morning and then I eat the evening. Ah yeah, perfect. Deux repas. 18h and then it's good. Because there's also plenty of people.

35:07Boar de l 'eau, it's important. I don't drink it. But I'm not going to drink it. I also don't drink it. It's hard. I don't drink it. 50cl maybe a day. And the night when it was really a sore. But if I can drink it, I drink it. So you have a sore sore? Yes. Yes, I also have a sore sore sore. That means we don't drink it. Exactly. I had a passage in my show where I was going to drink it. I had a dream where I was going to drink it. I had a sore sore sore. You wake up like that. Yeah. Yeah, I do it. Particularly when you eat a pizza. It's terrible. But it's still a problem. It's very salty. But when I eat a pizza and I don't eat it in the day, I'm really...

35:46Yeah, it's a drink. And then, because I just... I can't really... Like I'm HPI, I don't know if it's a subject, but you talked about your smile, you complimented on your smile when you were younger. And you said that you had the eyes like that, in all the senses. You had a lot of appareils? Yeah, I had a appareil for 3-4 years. Genre les bags ? Oui, les bags. D 'abord, les carters de palais et puis les bags. Ah oui, mon fils, il a ça ! Avec la clé ! C 'est fascinant ! Oui, j 'ai vu ça. Ça, c 'est un peu un petit truc de torture. Tous les jours, on te... Et tu fais... Trop bizarre ! Et ça a vraiment élargi.

36:21Oui, ça a élargi le palais. Tu le vois chez ton fils ? Oui. Parce que moi, je l 'ai vu très vite. J 'ai vu parce que je vois les dents qui se... Oui, en effet. Exactement. Et d 'ailleurs, je ne sais pas si tu avais fait ça. D 'ailleurs, très drôle, le dentiste a dit à mon fils, so it's going to be done with the pleasure of the beginning because it's going to be done with the pleasure and he had told me to do it with the pleasure and he had told me to see Laurent Woulzy and my son was like he didn't see Laurent Woulzy the guy at 6 years Laurent Woulzy it says something? I don't know what after I gave him a photo of Laurent Woulzy he had super scared he is super Laurent Woulzy but I understand when you're a child of 6 years you don't have to come back to Laurent Woulzy but after he already they have done the pleasure And then it's very, very fast.

37:05It's fast, it's crazy. I've already had changes between the moment where I was... When I had the bags again, they put the elastic and sometimes they serred. And at a moment, I had a little bit of a good heart. On the saw it through my bags. They were residing, I went to the cabinet and I saw that my dents were closed. It's a dingue. In two to two. But when you're young, it's easier. It's easier to change. When you're young. When you're young, after 18 years, it's been difficult to say. But you are decorated with your eyes Yeah And so it tells you For the people who listen to It's a strass It's a strass that you put You make the dessin that you want And like the people talk a lot about my smile I'm going to do too If there's something to decorate I'm going to decorate it I'm going to decorate it But wait, you're not a coquette But in fact, it's mega pointu I'm going to say it's a good But it's not a thing that I do once Also, it's not that I'm not a coquette because I have the flem.

38:03I told you, self-conscious of something, I don't like it. But once you put it, you don't touch it. Ah, bon? Yes. How long? If you want, you have three years. Ah, bon? But of course. But who's the collar? But it's a meuf who is specialized in the teeth and everything. She just, you know, the same thing that she colles, the bags, it's the same collar. She just what you want. And the day you want to take it, you go to the dentist, he's with the collar collar. Yeah. And then it's funny. It's too beautiful. Yeah, and you're doing it once. I've failed to say, I've seen it, you can't even know how to get it.

38:35I've had to take a card, so I've been so excited. I've failed to say, it's too beautiful, I want it. And really, I'm thinking about my mother, the day I made a piercing on my own, and she was like, I'm going to do it too. And that's just a bit of age, in fact. So in fact, I can't do it at all, but it's too beautiful. No, I can't. I could be like, for a shooting photo. But I could not, I would say, I'm like, you're a débile or what. But no. I'm not sure, I'm going to do it at all. You think you can do everything to do at all ages? Of course. But you can do everything to do. You think I can do two quets?

39:04You can't do everything to do. You said you said I did. No, you didn't. But who wants to do two quets at a certain age? Who's a bitch? There's no one who wants to do two quets like that in more? I don't know. I wanted to illustrate my extreme. Yes, yes, okay, okay. We've got to do everything. No, we can't do everything to do. But these things-là... That's beautiful. So technically, you choose what you want? Yes. It's like a nail art, but it's a tease art. Exactly. You know, for example, you make your eyes. For me, it's not very nice. But then... I don't know. Because I think that it's a lot of abuse.

39:42Yes. I'm going to put my eyes on the permanent. I have... You have to put my eyes on. You find? I think they're too small. I'm not a tall. You know what I mean? For example, you can make your eyes on your eyes. Montre tes ongles toi Non les miens non Filme pas ça Filme pas ça Moi mes ongles ils sont comme ça Ils sont petits Baissez ça Il n 'y a pas très longtemps Elle a baissé tout ça Et j 'ai essayé de les refaire un peu pousser Parce qu 'ils se pétaient tout le temps Mais pendant un moment je faisais du biab C 'est genre un gainage Qui te permet apparemment Qui est supposé être bon pour ton ongle Et ou après comme ça ils ne se cassent plus and it allowed to make them feel without that it's going to be able to break.

40:25And so in fact, it was wonderful because it was a bit more than I had the ongles. And the day I had the biab, I had the ongles of merde. Ah, yeah. So, catastrophe. And then, I don't like the semi-permanent because every time they take me out, after it happens for three months. Oui. But you see that, again once, to show you that I'm a flemmard of the coquetting, I can't do it. It's a lot of time. I did it for five months. I had the courage to go every time to take a rendezvous. At the moment, I said, I can't do it. But wait, if you do it, and during this time, you just think about something. No, it takes time.

40:56I have to wake up, I have to go. I have to wake up, I have to go, I have to go, I have to go, I have to go. I have to pay. I love that we do something. This phrase is super bizarre, but I love it. Yeah, we have to do it. I can really do something. If I have a half hour and I say, oh, I'm going to do a massage of your hair. I love that. But my hair, it's also blinded. Yeah, but because you told me that your energy is for your shoes. I really don't have the choice because if I don't do my shoes, then I don't feel like I don't feel like. How many times do you do your shoes? This is what? Two, three weeks?

41:31It's not enormous. Right. And it's worth it. And how much time do you do it? What? What? It's super long. I was like, what? Pardon, Nora. Pardon. Pardon, Nora. But we do it since we are all little. It takes minimum, if she's very motivated, she's got a go-to-coiff. Three hours. I'm persuaded that you have an institute where during the three hours, you can also make the ingredients. It's true. But three hours? Three hours? Three hours? But at least you say, during that, I've done that, that, that, that, that. My soeur. I'm a flemmard. That's three hours and you're a mal pendant two days. I told you, I told you, I told you, I told you, I told you, I told you, but why do you take it?

42:19It takes! But in appearance, I can tell you, when women are going to get into the clothes, and it's not even the most complicated coiffure, but it does not make it bad. It takes, it takes the front. But is it also lifting? No, it doesn't lift, but you feel it. When you laugh, you're like... Ah, yeah? Well, of course. But at the time, it should lift a little. Because when you know, you know, there were a lot of actors that would make a tiret. You know? It should be a little principle. It should lift a little. In any case, the first days, you see that it's a clean. But even for all to sleep, it's a mess.

42:57On should sleep like that. But why? Because it's bad when you're sitting on the floor like that. Oh, there you are. It's really bad. How many times it's bad? Two days, I tell you. I'm going to take a nap for that. Ah, really? Yeah. Well, after they're abused. We don't talk about all that. Yeah, no, it's really bad. In the first degree. Yeah, I hear it. It's a bad thing. It's a bad thing. After you clean, it's beautiful. It's super beautiful. Yeah, but... But what? What's the other choice? Just to say, it's a bad thing. It's a bad thing. It's a bad thing. I'm a flammar. I told you. You're not a flammar.

43:30You're a day. You're a day. What do you say? Yes, but I have a feeling of doing it. You know? In fact, you're not a flammar. You're not just doing things that you don't want to do. You're not a contraint. Right. Who is loving the constraint? Yeah, but after I feel that it's a constraint for nothing at all. We're going to do a top three of the constraints. I'm going to do a you prefer to do what? Okay. You prefer to go, I know what's the worst thing for me, I'll tell you. You prefer to go, to go make your shoes, or to go, to go, to go, to go through a business, to go, to go online, a thing that you have to buy online, which you don't go, to go, to go, to go back, to go back, to go back to the ticket, or to go back to Yeah, but you know that sometimes I keep holding.

44:11I also. I keep holding, I keep holding, I'm not mistaken. I can't. I can't. I'm not sure. The same thing. The same thing. There's a soutien-gorge that I kept, although they didn't have to. I said, stop, stop. I bought two coats of bain. I bought a lot of skims. Skims of Kim Kardashian? Yes. Oh, my soeur. Yeah, I love. I love his soutien-gorge. My soeur? Ah, yeah. Wow. Why? No, but it's fancy, quoi. I love it. No, but wait, it's like a brassiere. It's not at all a thing. I feel like you're going to continue with things. It's not an agent provocateur. It's just a skim, what? I think it's too cool.

44:46In fact, she has a really... She has a support-tie-gorge. I think she's a perfect one. And on the other hand, she has a sort of a suit. She's perfect. And so, I'm going to take the bag of the bag. And in fact, it's not at all. Aïe, aïe, aïe. And you have a guard? Yeah, I have a guard. And every time I have a couple of girls, I'm like, I have a bag of bag super beau. I have a skim. but you haven't taken two sizes? I took two sizes I took two sizes like a con but I think that no size would have been no size would have been no size would have been she has taken two sizes you didn't have said I would have taken two sizes first no size would have been because in fact the girl, the mannequin who the wore in fact there was one who had a very very very very very very very and another who had like all my grelets and so the brassiere on the one it was like too beautiful and on the other it was like mes grellettes, ça faisait trop mignon aussi.

45:38Mais l 'entre-deux, le sein comme ça, je ne sais pas comment dire, ça faisait comme si mon sein était triste. Tu sais, ce n 'est pas maintenu. Ils ne sont ni assez gros pour bien prendre la place, ni... Et ils sont trop gros, par contre, pour être petite chose. Tu vois ce que je veux dire ? De la merde. Vraiment. C 'est horrible. Ah ouais. Et de profil, on dirait une sorte de quadra-alcoolique. Je crois que tu as buce, non ? Je te jure, je te jure, c 'est vrai. Après, et comme moi aussi, j 'ai une tendance to me tenir like that. I was looking at the glass like you said, like the legs are going to be going to be ready, the vent out, the chin tombs, with the brassiere Skims.

46:13Franchement, I had to be able to burn it. It was a little bit. In two colors. Color. Wait, but attention. Color. The jaune flue. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I can't imagine. I can't imagine. It's a dingue. The jaune bien tapant. If you're saying, ah, on vacances, you're going to go. But n 'importe what. Franchement, it's a little bit. and the other a black a little motif bandana ok but find someone who can put it? to? but never but you're malade or what? no my sor I don't know why? but you didn't see you said I don't know like if I didn't have a thing with some accessories around no no bikini and all you put a piece?

46:59yes I can't put a piece why? I look at a old lady I think that either I have a big baby or a person I have a big baby. Even the one with a little baby. I was not sure when I was in the house. But really, I would say a person who goes to the swimming pool. You know, who he said, it's good for your arthrose. I prefer, frankly, I prefer to have a bit of a bit on my own. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I understand. I can't put it. I put it in a box with a bowed open and that's it. That's it. And the cream that you have made, because when you're arrived, I said... My sister, it's the Nivea. All right. All right.

47:38Well, yes. My mother said... My mother always said that it's the Nivea the best. Nivea, check, check. That's it. I'm a flemmard. I promise. I promise. But I promise. I promise. I promise. Because I promise. If I didn't believe it, I would not be able to do it. Because really, I didn't have time for anything. You crème the body? Oui. Ah, well, I don't like it. I can understand. But in fact, if I don't want the body, my skin will become a bit black. Like that. Like that. Well, I'm a cracker. Ah yeah? And you don't want to? It's like a mini-losange, you know? You know, you're a little bit. Well, imagine that on a black, and it's black.

48:14The cracklement is black. Yeah, no, I can't be able to make it. So you're a cracker, you're a cracker. I'm a cracker, just at the feet. But with the oil or the... I can understand that we're going to make it with oil, because it's easy. But when it's about to make it penetrating the cream... Moi, I'm going to make it penetrating the cream. Ah, boom. You're not a flemmard. the podcast I think it's a super beautiful thing and you're not good thanks, bye bye no but it's kind of dingue but yes but it's for the good of your peau you know what I bought I don't know I don't know if I'll tell you what it is I bought I bought it on Instagram but I'm sure you don't have an algorithm of débile because it's good you're centred you're on the good project I bought it an anticellulite that you put on you and you apply You apply the oil and you pass it like that and it's going to expire.

49:03It's going to expire. But in fact, it's not good what you do because you say that. The people who don't see it, they don't say, but wow, it's all, it's going to change. But it's got to see. My sœur, it's perfect. But it's nice. But not at all. We're going to start with this conversation. But not at all. But I like to... You want to perfectionize it even more? I like the idea. Okay. I think it's cool. But I understand because we have everything in our minds. Everyone wants to be a little... I know. I see. I see. I don't know. I don't want to say I want long jambes. It's a thing that doesn't happen.

49:38There's no sport. But there you have... The Tireuses Aguimauve in Willy Wonka. It's that maybe it could be a long jambes. It could be a pilot to be a long jambes. It's crazy. You can't go to your mind to get to that. Yes, because... The Tireuses Aguimauve. The Tireuses Aguimauve. I love this film. I love it. I was going to watch the theater at an age. Ah, yeah? With my son. Yeah, I love it. My favorite film. Ah, yeah? Yeah, I love it. I love it. Like Johnny Depp in Willy Wonka. A little crazy like that. I love it. Ah, yeah? It's really your type? Yeah. In Willy Wonka. Willy Wonka. My type of guy?

50:16Yeah. No, but it's not. He's completely crazy. But I think he plays well. He's funny. No, but I wanted to say physically. No, the square, there. No, it's not. It's true that... A garçon with a carré like that, a frange like that, like that? Not like Mafalda. No, no, no, no. You're right. Who's a great guy? Yeah. A great guy. A great guy to his age. Who's the most beautiful... My top? Yeah. When I was little, I had a big thing for Tyler Lautner. I don't know who it is. What? Twilight? Ah, Twilight with... The Loup-Garou. But wait, Twilight, with Robert Pattinson, Christian Siwa. Il y a un loup-garou.

51:00Oui, Tyler Lautner. Genre, basané, bien musclé. Je pense que je n 'ai pas regardé le film. Je pense que j 'ai vu que l 'affiche. Mais ils sont trois. Mais du coup, tu ne connais pas Buffy contre les vampires ? Parce que si tu as un type un peu loup-garou, c 'est dommage. Mais lui, il était beau. Il y avait un truc très... Viril. Oui. Genre Adam Driver, tu as bien ? Adam Driver, c 'est lequel ? It's the... You're playing Scarlett Johansson in a divorce. Yes. There's a thing bizarre with his head. There's a lot of fun. But you see, it's funny. Because a girl who had a head like that would be like that, she would have a head like that.

51:38And then he's a sex symbol. What? You think? I don't know. I feel like he can really pronounce it. But I don't have to wear it. But what I want to say is that... In Girls, he's really super. Like that, he can't wear it. He has a force, without the toxicities. But he is like that. No, he is not like that. You will find him in the entrance. But Adam Driver, I see very well. He is who? He is not like that. He is too weak. He is not too weak. He is not muscled, man. Ah, bon? Adam Driver, I saw you in Star Wars. Yes, it is necessary to get out of the photo. Because in Star Wars, I saw even a perfume.

52:23But no, it's your own. It's your square, it's Johnny Depp. No, Adam Driver, he made another pub de perfume, I promise. Adam Driver, core. Core, carrément. No, but it's not for... It's not for a montage. My sister, I'm not so musclé that it's. Ah, bon? Yeah. Well, finally, when I'm... Ah, yeah, no, you're right. Yeah, no, pardon. Pardon, I'm not sure... Oh, when I'm... change it. It's that the perfume perfume you talk about where it's not muscled? But it's not... I like the pectorals a little bit like this. Tap Tyler Lautner. Tyler, T-A-Y-L-O-R Espace Lautner. You like the pectorals a little bit sorties?

53:10Yeah, I like it a little bit when it's a little bit more. Like the seins? Tyler Lautner? Yeah. L-A-U-T-N-E-R. But he's like 7 years old? But no, but attends. but take a look when he was in Twilight. That's not good, Sarah. I'm not even young. He's not even old. Ah, well, it's not good. Twilight. Take a look when he was in Twilight. He was in a dark. Ah, well, listen. Ah, you see. Like that? Voilà. But how do I not understand what you want to say? I'll put it in the photo also if you want to compare it. I'm a little more volume. You think they're more volume? I have the impression. Or, it's just not my style, Adam Driver.

53:51In fact, it's just not my style at all. I don't know why. I'm looking at it like if they were going to propose something. Is it what we want? Is it what we want? I don't know. He is young. He is married. He is married? Yes, he is married. I don't know why we have this conversation. The conversation has not lieu. But it's true that I'm not... Yes, of course. I like Bad Bunny also. Yes, of course. Yes. Yes, in a genre, yes. I like... I like...

54:31It's not possible. I have enormous problems. But you know, I like Joaquin Phoenix. For you, it's a good friend. With the beck of lièvre, there? Yes, but you always describe it. Look how you do it. I'm very bad. That's the old Bec de Lièvre. Ah, he's in the way? He's in the way, yes. Well, I'm always looking for it. You see his Bec de Lièvre? Yeah, yeah. No. In all of a, I'm not a cicatriz. I don't like it all the time. Really, he's changing. At an age, I'd love... Franchement, it's not that we're going to talk about it. Yeah, it's true. But we're just two seconds. I'd love it. Vite, on dirait that you're going to finish.

55:13Wait, on termine and we're going to say. I'd love Matthew McConaughey at a moment. Okay, yes, yes. And you know, his wife is too beautiful. Why do you talk all the time about women and women? I don't know who she is. I just say that he is... He is too beautiful with his wife. Yeah. You're crazy. And his children are also very beautiful. They are perfect. But I'm a little agitated by all this white. This white? He is all the time white in white. It's a very white color. Like he is a little bit of a gray. Not at all, he is very white. But you see that it's a white color. But when he has a Oscar...

55:47He bronzed. He bronzed. You think he bronzed? Yes, he bronzed. He bronzed. It's for that he went to Brazil to search his taste.

55:55That's it. That's it. That's it with serious. I'm like, I don't have any reason. All right. What I'm saying is that no sense. All that we say is that no sense. And I'm going to continue and continue to continue to make the photos of Matthew for seeing what you say. But Oscar, Oscar, Oscar, how he's called? Oscar, he's got a good. Oscar who played in Dune. Oscar Oscar Oscar Oscar Oscar Isaac Oscar Isaac moi je l 'aime bien lui ah ouais ouais son visage très hispanique très matador I love it ah oui et Jacob Elordi wow ouais trop fort mais est-ce que tu donc là on arrive à se mettre d 'accord mais est-ce que tu valides la coupe mulet non très bien ce sera la fin de ce podcast non Sarah en vrai merci infiniment d 'être venus.

56:48Attends, c 'est quand les prochaines très grosses dates ? Très grosses dates, c 'est tous les jeudis à 21h30 au sacré. Jusqu 'à quand ? Jusque fin avril, donc on est bientôt à la fin. Une grosse date que je peux dire, c 'est le Cirque Royal à Bruxelles le 31 janvier 2027. Ah bah génial ! C 'est la date, on y va là-dessus. Et moi je vais venir au sacré. Attends, t 'as dit jusqu 'à quand ? Fin avril. Fin avril là. Ou alors viens à Bruxelles. Ou alors viens à Bruxelles. Viens à Bruxelles, Viens avec Anso, on se met bien. Merci. Avec grand plaisir. Merci à toi. Toi, merci. Elle n 'a pas mangé son caramel.

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From the publisher

Ce qui m’a le plus frappée quand j’ai rencontré Sarah Lélé pour ce podcast, c’est sa solidité, sa sérénité, sa confiance en elle, loin des doutes ou des minauderies que j’ai pu vivre moi, dans ma vingtaine. 

Directe, sans chercher l’approbation de qui ce soit, Sarah porte en elle une joie, une autorité naturelle, et ça m’a réellement fascinée de voir cette jeune femme dépendre si peu du regard des autres et savoir déjà ce qui est bon ou non pour elle. On a parlé de stand up, de cheveux, d’une vie parallèle de diplomate ou encore d’allongements de jambes… 

Longue vie à Sarah ! 🥳


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