Himesh Reshammiya On Struggles, Bollywood, Trolling, Music, Family & Arijit | FO359 Raj Shamani

32:52Oدli Chunaria To wo Oadli Chunaria Ke Saat

33:00Kya To Darnak To Wo Fraze Jab Buna Wo Suna Yaa And Unko Lagak For To Mujhe Break Diyaya Then I Was Offered Lot Of Films To Us Ke Baad Jab My Sitting Kar Ta was stopped the songs. You can see this picture. If you have a half hour, one hour, all songs are locked. One hour, all made, first of all. A little tweaking. Then, this phrase is like this. It was a kind of a okay so this rock based modern contemporary melodies arrangement in your final and then he locked all the songs and they were all hits so that whole became when he got successful, he said, I said, I gave him a lot of hits. I made 400 more.

34:23Again, all blockbusters, all the things that made me. I saw that in Hindi film, there was no situation in Hindi. What situation is in romance? It's flavour and feel. In such a picture, in your name, you can't have music of Hiladi. Hiladi you can't have music of Ashik so Ashik it was all about very very sensuous melodies passion and it was all about flavor change but romance then Namaste London Javed Sahib oh my god what I wrote and again all the tunes which were made so Namaste London की जो एक divinity थी एक subject में जो एक कड़प थी उसका correct सारे गाने बनते गए मा चकना चकना पंजाबी गाना पहली बार गाया मैंने so then मैं जा रहा हूँ and all those यही होता प्यारे क्या विरानिया तो iconic so वो जो सारे गाने बनते गए and they were fit in the lot and that's what I'm doing I have researched for this podcast so I have seen a clip Honey Singh's clip where Honey Singh says that the first time you called him he was doing singles so my son told me that this very superb singer rapper is there and he's done this song so I had to call him I heard that track and I said it's great yeah we should do then I called him and then we did Khiladi Lonely so initially yes then we started then we did the movie together expose me he was there you know and so initially what happens is that in the success journey people don't see that when the moment when you have a big name you can find a big name so the perception that the artist reaches where people give him eyeballs.

36:40And when the eyeballs get his real talent so actually the superstar doesn't do that. He does that that someone else did. Me too, Salman Bhai did. If I love it, so that's why I don't start so that's why it's very important for the good artist so it's just that he should do it which you are giving back you should not expect also what happens in this time sometimes people feel that I've done it now he should also but I think that is that you have worked closely with Salman Khan a lot of times what's his speciality? music sense is great film sense is great see, I know he's pulling the film on his shoulders neither director, nor composer nor anyone they carry all the things

37:40it's like a night of the day he can't work with anybody so he just wants to see that he needs to match his image he knows that but as an actor or as a star what's the speciality why people still love him there is years of years very good looking very cool very dramatic very very smart in terms of the scripts he selects which is like you know what people want to identify as a hero and accept their name where he says himself that don't identify your name character otherwise in all his characters so his sensibilities that are from the beginning I mean he's Salim Sahib's son so he knows and where he has a few weak directors which are weak in the sense that not very big names big brand names so he knows that he can pull it off so that is the real star quality a star is a star which is where every side of the music also has a blockbuster director, lighting after that he will give a average a hit a star where the other things are using script average music ok lighting and he will pull off because you don't see your eyes so that's why they are superstars you launched so many people and you have called many people honey singh because you were talking about him what makes honey singh special honey singh is this because he comes back to back and makes a song what is the plus point he is original in his own his own space when he came up with whatever stuff he brought.

39:52He was original. So, that's a lot of difference. You know, every person has an X factor. That X factor can be very important to identify. I think that is where the idea is. How many artists are today, if they never get success, because somewhere else, the X factor quality is in them. So, that's a great identification of them. Like my identification of me going into the high pitch voice, which people call nasal. But that identification is very important. But if I was singing in my mind on the radio, I was singing in middle pitch. If I take a launch with that, then it will probably not sit correct.

40:39That will also be understood. So, what is your X factor? X factor? Nasal? nasal voice and

40:49see I'll tell you jis level ki dialogue delivery मैं कर सकता हूँ and एक अपनी मेरी जो space है as an actor उसको correct template में correct तरीके से अगर present किया जाए so that is why the dialogues that these numbers music numbers was expected but the dialogue UGCs it's tracked everywhere so that the dialogues viral if you don't say that if you don't say that the retro that I think that my USP is and many other things in my USP as an actor but that wasn't too much tap. And again, I'm saying this, maybe after three years, when someone will tap and will be more than that, people will accept this.

41:52Because when you watch it, maybe people won't accept this. So, I personally feel that as an actor, I'm completely so raw and I need the right films and I can do wonders. now when you listen to this it's a great confidence but what's happening so when you listen to this it's a great confidence but it's it's not confidence I'm very sure about it but that's not the time until I reach that badass is only a start but But I'm reaching for the first baby step. I feel like it's a lot of things that people have managed to do. In acting? Just a baby step. But in acting, there will be things that people expect not to do.

42:59It will be 110 percent. but iisay jabab aapne friends ko bataate ho ya logo ko bataate ho it's confidently huste huste huste huste huste but yeah yeah yeah yeah believe system kaha se aatiya unka mindset believe system pe wahi jisay meire friends bolte hey amesh is an artist or as a businessman to be businessman aray but woh gani itne bade gani ko bhi to dhe do to us hi tera jab I can do it so you don't see that or you don't see that so you're saying that this belief system so that this belief system so that this belief system but my son believes and my wife believes now when I said it first I was laughing very much because I said I'm turning actor

44:27so she said कर रहा है यार it's you know it's it's about it's about जब तक हो नहीं जाता तब तक तो वो debate रहेगा ना डर नहीं रगता अभी नहीं नहीं नहीं नहीं काम नहीं मैं पॉइंट इस कि अगर आपने एक legacy बनाई तीक है so first for example आप एक इतने बड़े singing sensation बने तो उसके later music director become music composer become back to you have to do and you have to go to that and then but the song is coming it is coming it is coming it is coming but people want to remember you as that that people do the concert people do I have to be motivated but if let's say this work didn't work at this point and now people are and they are laughing why are you and how are you but people remember that that he left his own and left his own do you think that would bother you at one point if he is scared I'm not scared to be in the serial production I didn't come to my serial people I said that so big serial has been made so big producer he is going to be a music composer what will happen and then you will get a break then you will get a break then you will not be scared now everything is done now there is no problem But see, it is not only about belief system.

45:52It is about the sensibilities that this person can do, he can't do anything else. That is the point I am bringing to the table. like that high pitch voice that I can do with the songs that no one can do or that hardcore dated if I have sung the label on the songs then singles with the studio videos that I can do with the numbers that no one can do with the songs because that song that connect is very important I'm inspired by going to go that nothing is impossible if you want to work with your love, love and prayer with your love, let's rock you actually don't fear anything no I fear you know from a health point of view people are scared in any way and what happened to my dad he gave me I would go out and out because he was there with me every every moment he was there with me and we have done so much work and he was working till the last day his devotional channel was very good and it was in 10 minutes he passed away so that was so fair that I was so fair for my mom was he happy about you turning actor?

47:26oh extraordinary he loved Ravi Kumar's character he was okay okay but he always felt that this is Ravi Kumar which is your character when he watched it and that time even Irfan bhai had loved it I know that in one minute he had read the script and he said it's great and he also told me he loved the film also so

47:56oh god so it's called My dad's name is so much. My dad's very trust was that these characters are correct characters. Because it is about slot. Anybody, or you are like a child like Mahan, or like Shah Rukh sir, Salman bhai, Aamir sir, Ritik, Ranbir Kapoor, Akshay ji, Ajay ji. These are massive stars, which are fit in each character. But otherwise, the other great actors need to be in a certain slot for them to work big time and then they can show their versatility. So I feel certain characters can really work. What do you think that your father must be telling you? That you are right or you are wrong.

48:49What do you mean? If you father will for a second. Himesh, you itni jho exclusively kama kar raha ho yeh nha kama chahiye woh unka school nahi tha because he was from old school unka yeh tha ke jho bhi kama tuhmeh acha aata hai you should start accepting everything woh meera unke saath humayasha hi raha yuh kya kya chhold raha ho yuh kya chhold raha ho or meera yaha pere new age businessmen aata tha ke agar yeh karun ga so this is a good thing one year you will be you will be if I don't exclusive then this brand goes down so the thought the calculation was if you look at it old school that was it was that just go by the flow if you think a good product then you have to go ahead and and cabooms have more

50:01to calculations آ جاتی ہیں کہ یہ کریں گے تو یہ ہوگا وہ آئے گا یہ point of view آ جائے گا یہ perception آ جائے گا تو اتنی سوچ وہ straight بھولتے نہیں کر اور باقی یہ جتنی چیزیں میں کرتا کر رہا ہوں تو وہ بولتے great اور کرنی چاہیے and بالکل آگے بڑھنا چاہیے because اور ہم نے ساتھ میں success بھی بہت دیکھی تو وہ کہیں نہ کہیں his mindset was also کہ بس اتنا मत सोचो बहुत बहुत उनको वो प्रॉब्लम थी कि तू मच अफ थाउट इस यंग्स्टर्स अफ टूड़े और तूड़े पीपल वो अफ वोगिंग इस सो मच थाउट इतना थाउट कियो क्योंकि एक्चली देखिये जब हमने पहले वो इतना great come. I have done so much work which I have not thought. But if I don't think that I think that we might lose out on certain things.

51:00So, perhaps we are right or wrong, I don't know. I am not very sure on that. Do you think award functions rigged are not? No, I see point of view driven. What is deciding what is the point of view? When you match point of view when you match the public point of view match it has time to get up now Namaste London album came blockbuster was day once it wasn't that it grew I can it grew actually it was was was it was growing but it was my photo day once it was a blockbuster which made Darshan a star Akasa also so Namaste London ka Chakna, Mein Jaa Rho Houn, Virania, Yai Hota Piyar He Kya, Rafta Rafta.

51:53Sare hit. Sare blockbuster, uske baad quality, Javid Sahib ke etnay great lyrics and you don't nominate he ni kare rho. Actors bhi superstars. Sab kuch. Sabe kuch super hit. Uske baad ye hoota hai, to woh point of view driven isliye ho saktah hai ki yaar you think it's not going to happen. But in my mind, it's not that maybe someone had a problem with me. I don't think that's it. I don't think that's it. I don't think that music has not understood. But if you have a personal opinion that you have universal opinion that you have made award function, if that's it, if that's it, then I'll say that that you see, the audience has made that thing.

52:48And today I don't feel that your point of view was personal. That was a point of view that was wrong. Just keep that positivity. Because if I keep negativity, it will give me a relief. You know because we are talking about Namaste London. I want to talk about three songs that I like very personal. Different parts of your life. And I want to know their backstory. So first is Namaste London's song. I mean, whatever you pick song. I want to know their backstory. How do I go? I'm going. I am going to go there, so Javed Sahib has a tune for which it was for me a Jagjit Singh meets Himesha Shumya.

54:31imperaizers साथ है तो तेरी आद साथ है मैं जहां रहूं तो वो जो दो आज आज आज आज लो का संगम था वो मेरे लिए दिवाग में था उसके बाद जाविद साब जो उसके words किये उसके बाद वो गाने को हम fit करना चाहते थे last make a problem that situation wise length wise that film actually it was in the beginning titles Rishi Kapoor Ji journey and it sounds as a romantic song but actually he's singing for the country he's missing his country which people don't realize also because of the beautiful lyrics which Javed Sub did it was that I'm going to go with your memory but it connects so universally so I've been told I've been told many songs like if you see you can say anything you can say someone somewhere somewhere you keep a generic point of view so that when the person listens he connects with his emotions not only Only the film's situation.

55:59What story is this? Aashik Banaaya. Aashik Banaaya. I'm listening to the car. It's an amazing song. So Aashik Banaaya was also about that whether we were in the club, we were talking about a song which, of course, before we recorded it's slow version for the situation, which was a sensuous situation between a boy and girl, passionate and they were, they're just about to come close to, each other after that when it was a remix planned the story was that the energy which is going to be in all the night clubs but it doesn't need to connect to it come on everybody come on just enjoy the vibe and like how a DJ would really connect with the crowd it was all about that doesn't need it that doesn't need it that needs the connection so that singer that visual star who is connected with his song and his emotions will be the mic that mic June was very very impromptu and then he is connecting there and the crowd is making a mess and And it was new.

57:26It was different. And we just all felt that oh, this is a different connection. You and Imran Ashmi were a solid combo. Like a dhamakha combination. So why did that stop? No, but no chance to make this opportunity. You'll be doing it again. Otherwise, that's when... But that's my combination. With which I have also made a combination. If we see it, Salman Bhai, Akshay Ji, Bobby, Shahid, even with a Vicky Kaushal and Baby Tujjhe Paap Lagiaga, which Sachin Jigar composed. So, I have to have all the collaborations done. But the image interlinked was linked. Because what was the time? That was not the time.

58:18When I was a film video which they added to the end of the film and that video was the heroine of the film so it was new for them so it was new for them collaborative effort or what was connectivity but it was new and then it was new and then his video video and then that video. There were some videos that were together. And then there were some shows that were together initially when they came to the appearance. So I think there was a connection because if you made a friend, he was the hero of the film. And so much music was big. And music maybe visually I was there. so so so so so so so so

59:29so so

59:35in terms of visual perception yeah and as a formula for you guys or for movies ki is movie mein ek gana arjeet sa kawalo ek gana because it's like Arjit ka hargaana hit like time but Arjit hargaane mein fit ho jata hai sir he just fits in to every song to wo I mean koji do dousra opinion nahi hai us ke so Sunu Nigam great wo sab wo unke saath you can go with any song kuch bhi dhe dao kabi bhi they will do their job chalna ne chalna pher woh to aapki apni composition hai woh log ke begar ga ke kabhi niklinge nahi woh to achcha hi gahenge so us mein wo formula I don't think work karta hai but today it is more about the composition and the lyrics he can pull it off with a good singer also that is it's not that but if in that song you need the legendary voice then you should go ahead with them.

1:00:48Go to them. If you are sure that in this voice I will pull it off without them then you will pull it off. And how much would let's say an Arjeet would charge for a song? I mean Arjeet is not about money. It's about heart. Arjeet is not about it. Why don't you say that? Yes, I mean Arjeet I don't think anybody is going to discuss a price with him. He'll also be reasonable only. I don't think see when he has to do I'm saying that the whole new generation mathematics is not about money. Because people don't understand because if it is doing it, then every person is reasonable when it is not. When it is not, it is reasonable.

1:01:28That all are exclusive. There are too much thinking including me. So, that's why the organic growth is broken. Because the collaborative effort

1:01:55when you need a star villain so now he won't do it because he will be a hero and why not see if he has a opportunity then he is thinking why am I going to do a character role or a villain I will start my first concert of my life. I didn't have a concert, I didn't attend, but it was your time. I was young with my mom and there was a big company, a brand sponsored. And then you would be there. and we were able to get to somewhere and buy tickets and buy tickets and thousands of people in the beach and there was only one red cap that's it and if you saw something that was so much that was so bad or something we had to run out and that was my memory of you so that was madness about your songs your things what was it that was it it was a well curated strategy which I feel like that it was organic like red cap that was like leather jackets like image what was it?

1:03:16No, it was a look this nasal voice that was the connection that was if you were to gore to people's attention was the cap but the fact was a eye that was the emotional connect that was That's not the emotional connection of this character that I'm playing in every song of mine. Was the personal identification of every lover. That was a joy of love. And that connection was in the eyes. And this whole tap look. Because that time his hair was up.

1:04:11but what really worked in because it was not one song it was 50 hits so when it was 50 hits and it was every place every song

1:04:31and then the concert was happening so I didn't do the concerts for Cap but if you can see I didn't post but every year we are doing many concerts in the normal hair look yeah but those high end journey we have done high end concerts high end production and very massive and then we are doing corporate we are doing wedding, we are doing normal shows but not really ticketed ones where you have a function and went there and in the hair look, not in the cap look because cap has been always been very exclusive and very grand cap cannot be used just anywhere and everywhere and then you cannot dilute the brand also so cap is a So, it's a show part.

1:05:26It's a show part too. And it's a people's expectation. When I was able to bring my label, my first song, I did the first song in the cap. So again, insane numbers are, in your love and the first 2021. So, it's an image with it. But it's not every time, every year, as a non-exclusive, that's not the part. of the strategy. Because it needs to like a film every two or one year can't come. Life shows that is the cap of the aura I have to feel it from within. That now the time has come. So when the time has come I haven't done it. And that is why now when I am going to do my cap tour. You are doing India tour?

1:06:19Yeah. I am doing India tour. doing worldwide. It will be very soon announced. Worldwide? Yeah, everywhere. This year? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. But it's too big. You know, you have seen positive side you have seen social media. Negative side you have seen positive side what is dark side of fame? Dark side is that whenever you have that if you go, you need to give up targeting not their cost because the numbers are not which I have released. I have no release. I have no doubt. Because I have no numbers. So, I'm looking for how to tell you that you can tell me that you can tell me that you can tell me about numbers.

1:07:23How can I tell you about this? I'll tell you about your interview. I'll tell you about it. I'll tell you about it. satisfaction के लिए किया है next day जब उसके numbers नहीं आएंगे तो आप बोलोगे गाना flop होगे अब मुझे वो और उपर से social media तो बिलकुल वो अच्छी तरह लिखेगा flop तो वो जब लिखेगा तो मैं वो great चारगाने नहीं कर सकता हूँ so this pressure initially doesn't happen if I'm new and I don't have fame to have fame then I have to do what I have to do it doesn't have to do I don't have to do what I have to do I don't like I don't like I don't like what I have to do that is the pressure that is the trap and it can happen that it will be my the biggest the dark side of fame is this major expectation people have so high something below deliver after Namaste London me and Javid have never worked together now we've made seven historic blockbuster songs I can promise you that Namaste London is nothing in front of this but how many years it's and now it'll be there for a film when it'll be just because now the script is almost locked and we are starting the film and that's what I mean and that's what I mean that's how much time I've made that song after that subject I don't get the subject because love story opening doesn't need to how will we do it's so organic and divine space and romance so that's what I need love story which I need to do correct work do it, it's so great songs that music is super hit.

1:09:21Super hit music. I mean confidently, when I was a short one, I was a blockbuster. One word, one poetry which I wrote, and which composed, which is different. But when those songs come, it doesn't need to be a love story which connects. Now, love story, attraction, opening, they're just so, you say that insecure I don't want to be insecure. And I need to be connected with that subject. It can't be in a hardcore film. It needs a passionate love story. So now, for those years, we've got to look for that. After that, we've got to look for that subject. Now, we've almost got to look for that. So, those songs.

1:10:10So, how many things in insecurity are delayed? What are exclusive people that we have talked about? We become exclusive. We don't do stuff which is so organic and so straight from the heart because of numbers. Numbers' pressure is all over. Social media likes and views, does it change the movie from the movie? No. Instagram, the people who are viral, do they come? Is there any math? social media ka joh conversion hai insta ka instagram youtube or phir theaters excuse me sab ka alag alag kya explain thotah sa youtube ka apna market wo youtube shots dousre joh youtube ugc's wo numbers alag joh gana audio streams peh hai uska apna match instagram peh alag hi dunia hai wo eek dunia aap koji blockbuster agar instagram peh koji chiz hai it can be converted, it can be converted.

1:11:11But there is no rule book. Like Instagram on the other side of the channel, there are followers, but they convert. Music video also has come.

1:11:22So, theatre is a different world. And satellite, which film is not in theatre, it is a blockbuster. Satellite is different. OTT is different. alike dunia is so universally which are so many platforms which were not before so one dimensional which was planned was platform and that was a section we know that when you want to see that a film so many platforms to satisfy that subject that's a very difficult and that's a song and again I've been able to do that that's where that's where Spotify on Spotify, Spotify cool crowd also likes it and YouTube universal audience also likes it it is very difficult but that is the challenge, it is one way to say that I don't believe it, I do try hard something like that universally connects I have a curiosity because I'm talking about social media now dumbbells hammer curl and why do you sing?

1:12:36What's the reason behind it? No, no. I was there. What's the story? No, no. I was at the gym. It was all about sometimes what happens is that it gets serious. Because your mindset is that your body is not being and you know protein, gut is not going to be so you can't grow. These all calculations when you

1:13:09I like it. I like it. Tandoori, listen to me, I feel like it's work. If someone can sing on tandoori, if someone can make it, it worked. And with time, tandoori nights were getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

1:13:31I think it's COVID time. So I did it. I think it was good. So I did it. So, the gym reels really liked people. I think it was good. I will do it. I will do it. I have been doing it. I liked people. One was fun. One was thinking

1:13:58it was just connecting and music with my music if I was watching and I was in gym if I was a stress or a intense mood break and you go to a different space and you go to a whole thought change and you think just chill enjoy your life because sometimes we take a lot of you seriously that how can you do this how can you do this and of course but now you don't have it I think it's not done for 6 months no one has done for the gym I do ask my son I'll show him I'll let a dad go ahead it's okay no I was hammer curl I was wondering same same different songs what's going on and then what happens sometimes it's you know branded posts also so it was just working but it's not I don't do anything after doing something I don't do anything I mean I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just I just it's not I just I just I just What are you scared of?

1:15:23Sabse zahadha. Aaj. I have to read all the right scripts in the film. So now we have announced the final key. We are announcing our newsletter of films. And we should correct the subjects. The ones I think are correct. They should go correct. The music is correct. But what is the problem? No, the scripts are correct. It is not correct. In terms of the positioning genre of the film, it needs to because the biggest thing is that first you have to cost recover to your space correct if you have to be wrong then a great film will be so in today's time the attraction give me a sneak peek next what is going to do Ravikumar then he will come back and a great character Vijay Kumar from Vijaywada who Ravikumar came to world or or his separate film is made and that will decide that one is Javed with the songs that will come in a love story and then all are in the entertaining zone that is a serious love story Javed's songs can't come in a very hard casual it's a love story intense love story and then there is one film where I am not acting which is Janam Teri Qasam Radhika and Benayas directors which we are producing but historic music historic I mean historic Sanam Teri Qasam is 10 % 10 % of Janam Teri Qasam's music so good so it's another level and then there is one more film in the cap which is like which will Cap card tour life shows then the film will be announced nice because I haven't done a Cap film since a long time again great music there is a horror comedy also so film in some slates will be announced plus I want to I will be signing up two films which will not be produced by me so that is that will be announced so many things are going on but But the main thing is that these decisions will correct.

1:17:50But full-fledged acting is a career for next 10, 20, 30 years. That's our chance. That's not a chance. Because it only takes me forward in terms of my face value or the money or the passion that I have. But of course, music is never stopping. So right now, you can say that we are a label. I'm a composer I'm a singer I'm working with other composers I'm an actor I'm a producer and everything is there I'm not a director well perfect thank you for answering all my questions pleasure talking to you sir thank you so much for coming here thank you so much thank you

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