Ind-Pak War, Indian Army Operations, Weapons & Kargil - Capt Yashika Tyagi | FO352 Raj Shamani

31:23Look, when the threat comes, it doesn't happen that it's only a truck, a whole convoy is running, and what is security protocol in the convoy? Okay, when you first, a officer is responsible to bring that convoy, okay, from that point, it's a level that you have left it without any officer supervision I don't know about this, I'm not telling you about this I'm telling you another incident this is the thing when I was in Operation Rhino in North East jungle, all the operations of Indian Army are running a big umbrella operation, it's called Operation Rhino in that time, I'm talking about 1994, so ULFA was very very active and our base depot was the train from the base depot to the front of the AK-47 was the train and I was the security officer for that so I was in that train so you can imagine now you are coming to the terrorist infested area a train full of AK-47s which is a very prime target So now the whole path is the information you have all the time in connect, you have contact with your whole armed guards and the whole area is cordoned.

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32:59especially where you cross and enter the whole area is heavily guarded by security forces, police and when we reached the railway station and it unloaded overnight night we had a safe zone

33:33without a single mishap happening so there is lot of security protocol a it is not alone b it is not only on the local area formation this army headquarter and higher headquarters a a very big chain of command. Because this is a very big movement. Hand, gun, fire, move. It's a very big movement. And we can't even be sure that the internal spy network is working on the enemy. Who is our inside? This is the importance of logistics. that we are guarding that so much of our it can happen that there is no spy from us it can happen what do we know who is the informer so it is a staggered time there is not a routine that is followed now you understand and I am telling you a real life example where convoy was coming was almost 90 cars which had all kinds of equipment and guns it was only ammunition 90 trucks prime target for enemy this was done so the first ammunition was done after that replenishment now replenishment it is not so much time that you get the whole depot and issue issue करें.

35:17दूसरी चीज, अगर दुश्मन ने artillery fire किया और आपका एक truck उड़ गया, तो ऐसा नहीं होना चाहिए कि एक तरीके का पूरा गोला बारूद उड़ गया. तो आप एक truck में mixed समान रखते हैं. Okay, हर truck में mixed होता है. Mixed समान है. कि ऐसा नहीं हो कि AK-47 ammunition now this equipment out of action no mixed mixed second we can internally sabotage we can A ammunition with pairing fuse then our ammunition waste so it is very important that the path is safe ho, cordoned ho, routine na ho, staggered time ke sath niklye, to jab ye convoy a rahi thi, to kabhi tez, kabhi halki, jis se ki dushman ko judgment nahin lag pahe ki kitnay rai mbe kaabit dousari aapko eek aeshi kahani sunaoongi raja, aapke ronggde khaade ho jayenge jab humari ye convoyz a rahi thi kyawnki ye dushman ka bhoot prime target tha, to hem dhin ke samei garae nahin chala rahae thay we were running the convoy at night now you will say you will see the enemy at night you will see the enemy exactly if you have seen the land of the land then they are like a cow dark, dark, dark and very steep they are very steep and they are completely open under this our ASC drivers expert drivers light off

37:27off torch light positive positive positive high altitude are this called funding

37:44Gun locations getting offload theierungali No Op plastic monster plastic monster Isn't that beautiful? It's amazing And to talk about logistics is that why it's necessary Because on supply chain management There are wars They win wars Because there's no logistics So there's no morale Napoleon Bonaparte is a big saying So Napoleon Bonaparte says There are three factors for any For any force to win Three factors First of all The size of the army numerical advantage how big a scale is numerical advantage the bigger a scale you can win the second factor state of art equipment the same state of art equipment the same technologically advantage but the third factor which is the morale of that army if the morale of the force high is, so whether he is small, forge, whether he has equipment less, that forge always wins, which is a very example of Vietnam.

39:07Vietnam, closer home, Shiva ji. The guerrilla warfare was the guerrilla warfare. And he killed the forge of which he did. So, the morale of the army is a big thing. And for the morale of the army, confident leadership inspirational leadership and good logistics when we talk about logistics so how many soldiers are in a truck to guard for a truck how many soldiers are in a truck let's say you said a train full of full train AK-47 so how many soldiers are in a truck to guard for a truck at any given point because that is the most important train to guard yes exactly your train someone has stopped someone has put a rope on the railway track someone has put a rope diya to aap kis tariqe se usko wo karenge so you can easily take it that these are going to be the regiments who are given responsibility joh time time per change ho raha hai kyunki aap 24 by 7 aek responsibility aap shift karte ja raha na aur wahi chiz hai aap staggered time ke saath aage bada raha hai you are not following a routine if you reach two days you are getting a green corridor that was another thing that was another thing today's thing is another thing and when we talk about what logistics works then logistics is not something because logistics doesn't have fighting force logistics is not a fighting force logistics sas piches se support kar rahi hai but guards to logistic guards nahi hai logistic ke sapaahi nahi uchhaya hai yeh pure hamarai infantry soldiers hai joh support kar rahi hai logistics ka kaam hai gola barud aapko dena but jis truck mein aar hai us truck ko to secure karne k liye log chahi hoang hai infantry officer infantry jawan zardiar How many will it be?

41:1890 trucks Can't you see if one regiment has a responsibility One regiment has a lot of 900 soldiers The whole regiment doesn't work 101 Will it be? How many Convoy will it be? The security will go further and back both and the officer always goes back Convoy will always go back He will go back. He will take the car and come back. He will go back. He will check out the beach. He will go back. It is very important that the officer's role because he has to take the whole convoy to the right service. I had a curiosity. I had a question. I had a question. High altitude, they give the soldiers chocolate on high altitude.

42:08Yes. So they don't get depressed. No, no, no. What is that? Depression is not a problem. So, chocolates are going to give them instant energy because what happens in high altitude you die in high altitude you don't eat see you high altitude the price is like a stone because the water content is all become good you can't cut the gajar you can't cut the butter because the water content is all become good So you will put the vegetables in the warm water. After that, you will cut it. Now you will think that the vegetables in high altitude are dried fruits, chocolates, dehydrated vegetables, egg powder.

43:01Egg powder is made of an omelette because the egg cannot come. So what do you eat the egg now? eat. So there is a lot of dehydrated Russian. So our DRDOs, this is a lot of R &D. Which way? Which way? So this work is an AC. In any way, young people should get the food that they eat less. But in their energy, there are bunkers built in the walls. They are chocolate and dried fruits. but you can't eat it because in your mouth, in your eyes, in your mouth, in your body there is a whole carousine because only carousine is running there the way you are just running the stove and you are heating it that is running there all food is coming from a drop, especially in the glacier In which way, the young people put on the skid boards and drop it on the post?

44:16They put on different parachutes on them. And the young people are standing on the post who are watching where is going. Tell me more interesting. The trees come like this. The trees come like this. and I'll tell you another thing, if someone has a HAPO, that is high altitude pulmonary disorder, you know, your lungs in your body, your lungs in your blood, instant death, in matter of hours, some hours, and this HAPO, which is called high altitude pulmonary edema, sorry, HAPO, high altitude pulmonary edema this is to rescue you to help you to rescue you only with choppers and if the summer is packed then you can lose your eyes usually high altitude and war there is a golden rule that when when someone is very brutally injured, after that injury, it's golden hour that within 60 minutes, someone will reach the medical support very quickly.

45:32So, it's very important to you. So, how do you make sure that someone will reach blood or take them? It's logistics, you guys know something? It's a different team. It's a different team. Because logistics is not medical services. There are two ways. one chance to talk to his musculoskelete cond 가까 поводу

45:54wresfleet should become invisible to Pakistanical. his his arms 작은 people, who had mortal remains peace and has involved the last rights related toytyy religion. This is my But and he did his last rights in a way according to his religion. We have done this. But we will not talk about that. We will talk about India. If our young man is a child and if he can rescue him and bring him down, then the young man, able-bodied young man, is taking it down to the bottom. Maliji has hit someone. Maliji has come to someone's mind. If it can go. But if it's a life and death situation, then at that time the Indian Air Force helicopters, especially during the war, they worked for rescue.

47:09Our medical services immediately immediately to reach the Indian Air Force was a big role in the Indian Air Force. Our very young people have saved this because the Indian Air Force started these rescue missions and took off our young people from there. Because it was very difficult because you are a limited young people. You cannot do less young people because you have to take them down. There are such stories that a young man had a hand and she had a hand and she had a hand she had a hand she had a hand she didn't understand where did she and then the back said that time what happened and she said that his hand is the same where will you take this where will you take this This is Indian Army.

48:16I will tell you another thing. Indian Air Force has named Saffid Sagar in the fight of the Cargill. Air Force came May 25th. The operation began May 5th. We were 21 days without Air Force. Crucial time. And when Indian Air Force came, so you will not cross the air force so now you think that there is a fighter jet here there is no one in the sky so how will you turn the air force to 90 degrees you will not cross the air force you will not cross the air force you are just on your side because the enemy is on your side and the enemy is sitting bang on the air force you will cross the air force So the Indian government might not want to give a full blown war in the international arena.

49:18So the Air Force has taken a way to fly a parallel plane to the LOC. So as you said that you have made a part of May 25th, May 26th was running a flight left hand.

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50:01Walup Mayday call He gave him back to his headquarters At that time There was another MiG In the sea where the squad leader Ajay Ahuja was on a reconnaissance mission He told him You can see where he is going So that we can retrieve The air warrior back Now he was standing down Boom And the fire was from the bottom the forces of Pakistan had shoulder mounted surface to air missiles which were stinger missiles they were fired and that was coming after that Ahuja ejected and when he was coming from the parachute he was fired upon it is against the Geneva Convention you are never from the parachute from the bottom of the route, because he doesn't have fair fight.

51:03He can't fire on it. It is not the ethics of war. But the Pakistanis have hit him on it. When he fell down, he hit him on point-blank range. His bones were shattered. His body was like a chalni. Next day, a Mi-17 helicopter attacked him on his missile. Indian Air Force went back on the drawing board beach operation they had their own ops strategy reworked so if the Indian Air Force can rework the strategy in the war then you and us which bird of the bird I don't need ego we can never do correction in life they went back on drawing board and they said first thing we will not fly any aircraft which will be down to 28 ,000 से नीचे ओडे क्योंकि Stinger missile का range 28 ,000 feet है हमारे जहाद कम से कम 30 ,000 foot पे ओडेंगे दूसरी चीज अब क्योंकि MIG is not successful क्योंकि उसके rockets जो है वो rarefied air की वजह से अपने target पे नहीं गिर रहे हैं we brought in Mirage 2000 which were equipped with laser guided precision bombs उसके बाद क्या हुआ that the world has seen.

52:26Meaning, 9 ,000 sorties were done. One plane didn't even have a charge. Only the start of the three accidents were. Strategy change. Strategy change. Now you can see the new DRDO's weapon. Which one? The laser beam that drones can tackle. Did you see that? I have seen. It's a small truck like that. which is a laser mounted weapon behind it. It will be able to shoot the drone and shoot the laser. So now you know that when these laser guided bombs came to us, we were going to have sanctions on this time. We had given the bombs but it didn't have fuse. And you know who came to our help? Israel. And we were surprised how we did it.

53:18And the surprised we worked out. Israel and Russia has held us a lot right over the years Yes When India had against vote in one time Israel When that was a matter of independent state But now India supports Israel India supports Israel And India supports Russia also Yes yes yes And Russia has been a time tested friend If I will listen to the stories of 1971 I think that I have to do a different episode How their nuclear submarines surfaced and American warships had to turn back. Just because at the right time, Russia came at our help. So, these are two big time-tested friends and we should keep our friends and keep our friends.

54:02Yeah. What is one thing that we never get into the civilians or will we never get into the war? Or which one thing that we can't experience in movies and something that you can see in the war? Because you've been there. because i was reading about it that you can read about war

54:26that person can smell the war

54:33anger blood like guns powder everything that you guys can smell and it has a lot of confidence creating a very traumatic experience. So that's one thing. Which is the other thing we never know. We can never experience through movies or through stories. Have you ever smelled your blood?

55:02No. Have you ever smelled your diesel? when the artillery guns move so much, they are the big weapons systems when they are there.

55:25That's a grief. That's a pain. You just stand for three words. Three words. And that's duty, honor, courage. which if we speak Hindi, name, namak and nishan. How many days did it go? Three months. Three months. We had three months to surrender. May, June, July. I will tell you that it was June, July when I was in my second trimester of pregnancy. And I was there.

56:04Wow. So you are standing in the war with a pregnant belly. and when you come and come you just imagine that your carabine is in one hand I have got a child in one hand and I am pregnant so that time was like when my posting was on high altitude I was the first lady officer who got a high altitude and extreme cold climate posting in 1997 so when I reached the force. There are some big practices that you reach, you go to the commanding officer's office and you salute and report. So you are meeting the CEO for the first time. My commanding officer did not meet me the whole day. I remember now that I was studying outside.

57:06I was in the morning, I was in the morning, I was in the morning, I was in the morning, I was in the morning, I was sitting outside of my commanding officer, they didn't call me inside, why?

57:47Thank you. And I said, I'm left and I'm right back. And he just looked at me. He looked me full in the face and said, we never wanted you here. At that time, I didn't know that I was going to experiment with the Army Headquarters. The first lady officer logistics wing is at high altitude. Wherever you look at it, no lady officer. And then when the fight started, So at that time my tenure was completed. And there was 24 months tenure. We are not spending the year's tenure, we are spending the month's high altitude. So it was 24 months tenure, but the fight was gone, so all the posts and the little ones were stopped.

58:40Now, the posting was stopped. My commanding officer called me. The commanding officer said, you are pregnant if you say and you take up then you should army headquarters do your posting

59:02but I want that you stay here and you know high altitude pregnancy is not a joke high altitude pregnancy there are so challenges There are challenges that every minute your child can abort or your child can be a special baby because there is no oxygen. If your normal pregnancy is a normal pregnancy, you also have breathlessness. and there is oxygen you think that you have seen in covid time that people don't have a breath there is also the same thing in planes you can eat iron rich diet eat fish, eat pork, eat pork in high altitude you can eat something because you need oxygen to get it to process the body

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1:00:51Sonate Imagine Why are the people Except for Six feet and you have made a mistake for the government which has 5 numbers size so you have to issue special clothing to issue but they did not work so they fight after the enemy so everyone will fight the right thing so every person to issue the right thing every person to issue the right thing ammunition देना अब बड़ी बड़ी guns होती है उनका ammunition होता है और उनका fuse होता है छीक है दोनों छीज़ सही होनी चाहिए गलत ammunition को गलत fuse दे दिया तो उसके पास वो ammunition रखा है लेकिन वो से use नहीं कर पा रहा उस ताहिंप प्रोट टेक्नोलोजी not going to do everything with all hands.

1:01:43Yes. Everything is issue. I remember that account cards that we had issued, there was a red line on account cards. And it was under war accounting. Now, the war is issue. Not only this, I was going on a very regular basis. Cargill, Dras, Mushko, because we were established logistic points. established कर रखे थे वहाँ जाकर first hand information लेके आनी है अब मैंने आपको बता है मेर पास दो साल का बच्चा था बच्चे को तो मैं नहीं लेके जा सकती front पे बच्चा कहा छोड़ूंगे क्या किया हमारे audience depot में Ladakhी laborers थी Ladakhी ओरते and Ladakhir women said madam don't do this children we will see you go these are the stories and sometimes sometimes sometimes sometimes you sit there where the guns they are pounding and you are listening to that and you say I have issued that this gun I have issued so the job is right so no one remembers the logistics but if it was wrong then logistics they say that the army can fight until they can fight until they have a gun in the cage and their feet in the back here is my last question to you yes bring it on you have some terrorists encounter up close

1:03:29That we know now. That was my role as an ordinance officer. That's the most important role. Yes. So wherever he is, his role is there. And every one of his role matters. Whether he is a doctor or an engineer or an engineer or a car is a driver or a driver. or he is the last soldier who is in contact with the enemy whose role is he is the role of his then he is the whole force as a logistics officer I have never killed a militant because this was not my mandate my mandate was to give the gun to keep the equipment to keep the equipment if you're asking the repair that's what the repair should be there

1:04:35and that's what you're looking for and I will also leave you with a last and final word from my side this is one final lesson always choose harder right over easier wrong and never let your wishbone grow where a backbone should be nice very powerful words this is philosophy of life in your life always you have two paths one will be an easy path which is perhaps unethical one will be a rough path but undeniably right give God so much taakat de ki aap jeevan ke har padav pe kathin raastah chunne joh sahih hu and keep that warrior alive inside you always perfect thank you so much thank you it was a pleasure having you ek wara merasa jayhind bol ye aap bolu jayhind jayhind hi Raj so glad to meet you pleasure meeting you please I am happy yes you are thank you aapne na ekdam aise nubs pakdi hai you are a very effective listener let me tell you you listen very well and you know exactly you understand that is I think your success is this thank you so much for watching this episode end to the end now you have to do three things first of all, subscribe to this channel because as much as you subscribe we will get better and valuable guests for you number two, tell me in comments what did you feel good and bad so that we will repeat mistakes and which guests that you want to see in our podcast so that we can take them and give you more value.

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