Karan Johar On Love, SRK, Dharma, Weight Loss, Nepotism & Quitting Bollywood | FO351 Raj Shamani

40:13You can get what?

40:20A problem! You can't do anything like that.

40:48is it also because star kid ko multiple opportunities milti hai flop ke baad and an outsider ko nahi milti hai is that the conversation obviously a star kid sometimes by virtue of his or her foot in the dawn ko mooky milti hai lekin eventually honor se ap mokabla nahi kar sakti hai agar aapke ander honor hai talent hai to today will you call Alia Bhatt just a star kid who's done well she's an incredible talent she's an outstanding talent Alranbir Kapoor is an outstanding talent. Those two are technically NEPO kids. Don't they deserve their success? Have you seen the hard work they put into their craft?

41:31So I'm like, while Shah Rukh Khan and Mr. Bachchan are the big journey of outsiders, they're also great insiders who have done great work. So, all work. But all, what do they all? And you can't, Mr. Bachchan and Shah Rukh Khan are living legends. You can't even compare anyone to them. They are beyond comparison. they are the benchmark goal standard but one thing in common of everybody who is doing well is their talent today if you are consistent or talented then you can you will go in fact you will never meet with complete success if you have talent and you can argue that many talented people are not successful because it's one component that's the achievement

42:27is not possible. It's not possible. My career, if you look at me, there are a million people more talented than me. I'm telling you. Who deserve to be where I am today. I'm not saying I'm just saying I'm just a person, George Junor and talent. I'm just a person because of my career. but I have not written my own I have written my own I have written my own and I have written my own and I have written my own and now I have written my own and now I have written my own I have done what I have done I am just doing my work I am at least being responsible to my destiny Does this bother you? When people ask so many questions and ask them You know Actually Raj I have reached a point that I am numb I am not over it I am just numb to it I am indifferent now a little bit to their hate because i feel if i everyday take that heat in mage season if i dont id whenever i take nedxor 지 endging nofret kon caso really does something needlesslyен and then my heworth self negative will not be i have to alarms and may notALD i want to give my energy to do my kids when i want them to lie if they are father positive insana positive benda hai whoosh insana hai whoo whoosh mizaz ka hooga toho whooshi on me aayegi myre bache bhaut khush bache hai and mein wo vata waran aapne ghar mein wohi nda nha chaatau you mentioned ki koji nai chaatau ki unke piche aagay piche ghoom ho gym tak follow ka roo this follow ka roo yeh bhaut bhaar to paid bhi hozaya na it's like a created machinery of course to loog jinn ke aaz bhaut paysa hota hai wo create kiraatau aisa a artificial bubble and then it's just like frequency illusion that you can see that you can see who is insider or outsider or side or left or right or who who can pick that is somebody that who is only insiders who is a production house I do know I'm asking random question as a production house as somebody who is launching you put more budget which probably is a star kid which you know कि इसके पर जादा curiosity होगी कि इसका बच्चा अचा है कम budget लगा तो क्योंकि उनकी awareness already जादा है तो to promote a person who doesn't have an audience recall for whatever reason उन पे ज्यादा आपको energy, पैसो की बात अलग है, energy डालनी पड़ती है ताकि मैं कैसे सबको this one that I feel like I'm a new actor.

44:56But for marketing outside, PR, marketing, social. You have to promote somebody whose name or name is not. Obviously, you have to, for example, to put Lux out there, more energy has to go. You have to know that this is the first film. This is a new actor. This is the first film. You know it, because it's a good job. It's a better job. So, you have to put more of your marketing muscle to promote that. In fact, that's what even people don't realize that we're doing a lot of work there on an outsider because you have to make sure that people are aware. Awareness build is the most difficult in today's time.

45:37There's so much clutter in sound. There's so many things happening. How do you break through that clutter? Who do you think will become the next big star? One or two people who you really like? I feel the entire generation of good actors that I'm seeing. Like I've seen a trailer, I really liked it. It's a film of Vijoy Nabiyaar. Anandar I produce. I think that Lux is a tremendous talent. I think that there's a great star potential. I think that he can go very high. Like Raghav's work was so great. What a solid actor. He was very superb. I like Agastya Ananda. I like Vedang Raina. There are many actors.

46:18I still feel very strongly that people when Suhana Khan eventually will see in August, I have seen her as a student I have seen Suhana's student films I have seen the work that she has put into her craft and I feel like people when they realize that the artist is the one who will come out and she is doing a film with her father King and I am glad that the world will see that on a large scale that Suhana has a terrific talent and she is going to do phenomenally well and I am not saying that because she is my child I'm saying that because I believe that there is a massive solid artist in Sohana Khan and the big, the big, the big, I don't know if I'm supposed to even say this but I believe in Aryan Khan's directorial talent.

47:07He's doing that, his show is coming on Netflix. I don't want to say anything about it because he's very angry. He's very private. But what I'll say is that watch out. He's going to do. there's a king, there will be a prince. Oh, wow. And why do you say so? I know so. I say that I'm saying that I'm saying that you watch the show. Give you one reason why do you say so. Because I've seen the show. What other reason can I give you? What did you like about that show? I love he has an individualistic voice as a director. He's not anything like you expect. Like you expect, you feel that Shah Rukh Khan's son will be this, how to work.

47:49It's his personality. It's his personality.

47:55He doesn't carry the baggage of his father. He doesn't carry the baggage of his legacy. He's a man who works 20 hours. He works his job. He works his job. He works his job. When I saw him, if he's a board game, a sports game, or a massive series, he's winning. than I because he likes to win and he takes losses personally and he gets even more motivated by successes. He's a rare personality type and in many ways he's like the first born to all of us. We all had a parental instinct kick from the RN to the birth. I took him to my heart and went to the gardens. So when I see him, I direct him to the point where I see him, I see him an out of body experience.

48:47I can't believe that this is RN and then I thought that this is the child that was my goal and now I do it so you know like I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like so I can say for sure do you feel do you have fear of getting replaced now me me Do you feel that I will not be relevant a little bit Maybe my work will go or not Do I fear irrelevance? Yes I fear irrelevance As I told you right When I said that I can deal with nafrat and love

49:31I can deal with that Yes I do fear irrelevance And I feel like The only way to fight that feeling Is to constantly be relevant And to be relevant You have to acknowledge the brilliance of others how will you then get there if I myself in a bubble and I don't see other people's work if I don't understand what I don't understand if I don't understand what I do if I don't acknowledge how do I do it then I don't know as a studio head as a producer as a filmmaker so if I have street business seen chawa business seen in three films I have studied and observed academically and appreciated and applauded all of them.

50:15It's important for me to understand why and then move ahead. But I can't continue. The only way to stay relevant is to be aware of your atmosphere. Is to be aware of your surroundings. Not live in your... A lot of creative successful people sometimes who are in their bubble. Who are in their zone. Who is in their own way. Who doesn't want to go out of their way. Because they don't see anyone else's work. They just want to do their work. do people who want to work, who is probably right or not, but those people who are, will not be relevant forever. To be relevant, you have to absorb yourself in other people's lives also.

50:52You have to get everyone. You have to get everyone. You have to get everyone. And you can't talk age-wise, I'm not status-wise. Talk down to anyone. If someone is 20-year-old who is giving advice, then you listen. Listen to everyone. Do yourself. Listen to everyone. Do you have any insecurities?

51:10Yeah, many. Which one's the biggest? I mean, I'm insecure of people. I mean, of course, I'm insecure of failing. I'm insecure of that feeling of failure. Like, I'll give an example. Rocky and Ronnie was released in 2023. July. I was coming after seven years as a filmmaker. I hadn't directed since Aidel Hai Mushkili, which was in 2016. team. So, it was a tough time. It was a very cluttered release time. Oppenheimer and Bobby came. He was a bad guy. We were stuck in the background. And a trailer was not accepted the way I thought it was. I think it was giving the trailer a vibe. It was been that and done that film.

51:59I had a feeling this story. Because I am very aware. So, I am hyper aware. I am hyper aware that this is something. Where is it? So I was very nervous that what if I fail? And while I told you failure is okay, I'll deal with failure, but my directorial failure has one very big repercussion, which I was afraid of. That if I fail directorially then it's very tough for people to take me seriously at work. Because I give my life a day, this is my job. If I listen to my song, script, performance, I give my life a day. I don't want to see that where I can see that this person himself I don't want to see that what I'm saying I don't want to see that I don't want to see that disrespect and that sense of humiliation of insecurity I don't need that I know that I can make this statement life will probably give me that feeling but I want to fail directorially I don't mind feeling as a producer I don't want to fail as a director I think that is my biggest insecurity and how do you fight that I don't know how can you ever predict success in creativity but I will try that whatever I do it will go out because I have actually directorially I have never failed my every picture is in so I in various levels but they have all run and they have been profitable to us and have been given the status of a hit film I am very fearful of feeling as a filmmaker, as a director.

53:39I can do it. I can do it. I can do it. I can do it. I always listen to my heart. I've always wanted to listen to my heart. I've always wanted to do it. I've always wanted to listen to my mind. Two years later, I've written a film. I've produced a film. I've already written a film. It's better script. But I've finally read it. I've always said, what do I do? This is bad action. I've never done it. I've acted in commerce. I was like, I don't see my artistry. I left that picture. I gave someone else to give you. Go and go and live your life. I don't want to make it. Because I thought, this is a bad action.

54:16If I'm going to make it, then I'm going to make it. Then what I'm going to make it. What I'm going to make it. What I'm going to make it. What I'm going to make it. I feel I have to bring my own strengths to the table. And I was just thinking about it. that. It was my dream strategy. My heart was not back. So, my heart was back. So, I think that now I should quit now because I am the success of my life. No. I want to die making movies. I want to die on a set. Because you said that the most fear is that my directorial movie flopped not to be able to do it. But Raj, maybe this day, when it flop will be, I'll be insecure.

55:03But when it gets worse, it gets worse. I'm scared now, because it doesn't happen. Just as to fear losing a parent, I lost a parent. The worst is over. I always say, what is worst? When he's been turning, he's stressed, he's stressed. I said, I've lost my father 21 years ago. For me, that was the lowest point of my life. What is this? I've never felt like I should leave Bollywood at any point. Lowest point, worst point. Never. I love this industry. It's given me everything. Where else can you sing, dance, laugh and cry and still be at work? It's the most beautiful place in the world. Whether it's Bollywood or Indian film industry, this place has given me everything.

55:51My name, my life, my omAshi, my Dha'dikan are attached estimates so this industry and it's a beautiful place no matter what anybody says and the people say they have take support and they certainly hurt the without realizing who are saying and doing also is great I feel it's the most beautiful place guide me to Your guide me about your creative process because now you have talked about directorial that I have not directed movie flopped. They've all made money. They've all been hit in their own ways. What process is like how do you I'll tell you when I look at your movies and I'm talking about from the time of let's say I don't know if you directed that movie or no but it's your movie only.

56:48I directed it. You directed it.

56:54so all of these movies in I have felt till now that when I watch it I think it's an excellent movie fun, fun, fun, end, end 2-3 years later 5 years later I was like oh this was a reality and it just hits later how can you make such relatable movies every time because everything can't happen to you like kubh kushy kubh gum it's like a hardcore relate on so many different levels and sometimes pwery story relate نہیں hodhi movies mein but kuch kuch scenes it feels like it exactly they hit home life observations se mein banaata hoon mein shayid tum tum shayid is baat ko observe nih kar pahoghe lekin meinne aapko observe kar liya your mannerism your body language I'm an observant person by nature I have completely observed this camera this camera's aesthetic observed everything is absorbed in my head my writing is inspired from my life everything Anjali's character is that awkward girl that was the life island so somewhere that penetrated through then I grew up reading Archie comics so the aesthetic first half of Archie comics then I loved, absolutely loved a film called Parent Trap so that Parent Trap angle came in the second half so a lot of the life I led I mean Yash Chopra, Bhakt so climax, Chani this is a break up I am going to give you you know but if you look at the picture you have to understand that this is it but this is all my childhood inspirations and dreams everything came in then when the picture came in there was a certain kind of gratitude I felt to my upbringing I felt I needed to make a film for my parents is my ode to my own mom and dad it's all about loving your parents it's because I believe that we are we are pillars and definitions of our parental legacy, emotional legacy, to basically that was my ode then I feared losing a parent and I wrote and ironically my father passed away right after that and then when he passed away I felt I lost my policing because he was center even though he was always scripts I felt now I can make a slightly risky film because Papa now I can allow or disallow not to do this so I made it because I was obsessed with the idea of infidelity not that I had a relationship or I had to cheat someone but I always feel like when people get married or committed relationship which are directly out there, what will happen in their head?

59:49There are so many complications. It's a mistake. And that's the stress. It's cheating. Infidelity, there's a stress. Stability, there's a bottom. But it's a calm. Infidelity, there's a passion. But it's a tension. And this is a blurred line between love and stress. Passion and infidelity and stability. These all the things.

1:00:17I wrote Kabi Alvida and I wanted to make it after that I felt very bad that I felt three films in the award. So I wanted to make it I wanted to make it because I wanted to make it because I felt very bad and I felt very bad and I felt incredible content was the cinema chal raha tha, joh bharhi bharkam chizhe kaya whi rahe thay and kuch alak kar raha thay. So I had certain beliefs. I'm a secular person and my secular self wanted me to tell the story of my name is Khan. My name is Khan. I wanted two reasons for that. I wanted to make a film. The one was that I really believe in the power of secularism.

1:01:03The other one, I wanted to make a award. So I wanted to make a film. I wanted to make a film. I wanted to make a film. I wanted to make a film. fair award jita houseville so my for that then I felt that I just work with stars so I said okay I launch new commas then that narrative was not nothing that everyone said brave decision that Karan is launching three new kids after working with only mega stars so I have that challenge then my heart took computer.

1:02:06۔ اور پھر میں نے ٹوٹے دل پہے دل پہی لوجک میں نے اپلائی کیا کہ کہ وہ ایک طرف پیار کی طاقت ہے کیونکہ وہ خود کا ہے آپ مجھ سے چھین نہیں سکتے ہو وہ میرا پیار ہے اگر میں آپ سے پیار کرتا ہوں تو مجھے آپ کی ضرورت نہیں ہے وہ پیار میرا ہے وہ مجھے امپاور کر رہا ہے مجھے انرج کرتا ہے ہاں جب وہ پیار ٹاکسک ہو جائے تو وہ غلط گلی ہے لیکن وہ جب پیار آپ کو امپاور کر رہے ہیں وہ پیار میں مجھے بہت امپاور کیا made me feel alive so میں نے اس کو ایک positive channeling دی اور وہ کہانی جب میں نے بتائے درشائی I felt it healed me you know تب بہت سال اس کے بعد میں کچھ اور میں historical بنانا چاہتا تھا پھر وہ نہیں بنی for various reasons اور پھر میں نے چاہا کہ let me go back to making a happy film because I want to feel happy یہ pandemic کے بعد تھا pandemic end ہو رہی تھی بہت لوگ گھٹن اور loss and pain سے گزر رہے تھے میں بس خوشیاں دینا چاہتا تھا لوگوں کو so I made Rocky or Annie so ہر فلم کے پیچھے there is a reason an emotional subtext or a circumstantial subtext but ہے ہر فلم کے پیچھے ایک چھپی کہانی ضرور ہے and ان سب موویز سے پہلے starting میں آتا ہے دھرما لوگو ہر کسی دماغ میں وہ music کے ساتھ چھپ چکا ہے right what's the story behind that that's the chorus of کچھ کچھ ہوتا ہے اس لوگوں کی کوئی story کیا ہے اس کا مطلب نہیں بند گئی تھی مجھے کوئی زیادہ I would like to tell you that there is no interesting story just that I wanted that اعلان

1:03:57ایک تارفہ پیار because you just talked about it کیا ہوتا ہے کیا فیل کرتی ہے ریالیٹی میں آپ نے کہلا وہ تو اپنے مووی میں دکھا دیا پوزیٹیو لائٹ میں دکھا دیا پیار کمبخت کوئی چیز بنی نہیں ہے نہ بنی گی بہت لوگ کہتے ہیں نا دل میں درد ہوتا ہے نا وہ فیزیکل پین ہے جو ہارٹ اٹیک کا والا پین نہیں ہے لیکن ہے ایک درد ہے آپ کو انگزائیٹی فیل ہوتی ہے آپ سانس نہیں لے پاتے آپ اپنے ورسٹ ورزن آف یار سیلف بن جاتے ہو جب آپ کا پیار ایک طرفہ ہوتا ہے میں نے وہ سین اس لیے اے دل ملا کہ وہاں درد ہوتا ہے فیزیکل پین ہے کسی نے کسی نے کچھ پھاری چیز آپ کے چیز پر ڈال دیا دل کے اوپر ڈال دیا وہ فیلنگ ہے وہ آپ فون دیکھتے رہتے ہو آن لائن وہ انسان ہے یا نہیں فون ان کا آیا کیوں نہیں وہ کہاں ہوں گے نہیں ہوں گے آپ کا مائنڈ is always distracted it is torture ایک طرف پیار then when you have this realization کہ let me take it this way you know it's always میرے ساتھ یہ ہوتا ہے کہ میں بہت جب گر جاتا ہوں تو میں اسی درد کو ایک نئی دشا دے دیتا ہوں اور اس نئی دشا نے مجھے actually empower کیا when I looked at one-sided love as a power of of a feeling that I had یہ power ہے it's empowered me then I started letting go because ویسے وہ پیار میرا ویسے بھی تھا ہی نہیں but ڈرد ہوتا ہے it's the worst feeling in the world مجھے بہت empathy ہوتی ہے ان لوگوں کے ساتھ جو ایک طرف پیار کی گلیوں سے گزر رہے ہیں how do you come out of that وقت وقت کی خاصیت یہی ہے کہ وہ بیٹ جاتی ہے چلا جاتا ہے accept کرتے ہو fully کبھی accept کیا بلکل accept کیا نہیں نہیں hope نہیں رہتی میں کسی چیز کو overtly romanticize نہیں کرتا جو چلی گئی جو بیٹ گئی وہ بات تھی میں کیا رومانٹسائز کروں جو وہ میں درست تھا ہی نہیں موویز میں تو کرتے ہو وہ تھوڑی exaggerated of reality ہوتی ہے زندگی میں تو تھوڑا practical ہونا بات ہے you said expectations for us to live by those have not met سب مجھے بولتے ہیں تم نے تو ہمیں پیار کرنا سکھایا ہمیں پریم کہانیاں بتائی ہیں لیکن وہ پریم میری زندگی میں کہاں آئی ہے وہ ایک ویکیوم ایک ویکیوز پلیس جو hole ہے جو رہ گیا آپ کی definition کیا ہے love کی love it's complicated راج love کیا ہے love feeling ہے sensation ہے affection ہے attraction ہے لیکن سب سے زیادہ ہے اس کا realization آپ کو تب آتا ہے جب میں نے اے دل میں کہا ہے جب کوئی تیسرا آ جاتا ہے آپ کسی انسان کی قریب ہو اور آپ اسے tag نہیں دیتے آپ کو خود نہیں پتا کہ میں کیا feel کر رہا ہوں مجھے بس اچھا لگتا ہے کہ روز میں اس انسان سے بات کروں یا call کروں لیکن ایک چانٹے کی طرح جب آتا ہے وہ feeling جب کوئی تیسرا آجاتا ہے to threaten this relationship تب آپ کو بات ہے شاید یہ پیار ہی ہے it's always a third person that makes you realize what love really is when you are interacting suppose you are interacting with somebody you all are having a great time chatting, chatting, chatting, chatting, chatting interacting, messaging کچھ ہے, zone ہے but آپ tag نہیں دینا چاہتے آپ I love you نہیں بولنا چاہتے کیونکہ it's too early it's too soon یا شاید ego ہے آپ کا یا شاید آپ زیادہ commitment phobic ہو کچھ بھی ہو لیکن if you want to put that person in that if you want to be caught in a spot کہ وہ ایک تیسرا angle کوئی آ جائے اگر کوئی کہے جس کے ساتھ آپ بات کر وہ کہے oh somebody finds me interesting and I might be going out to that person you know و جب و اس رات کو جب آپ کو نین نہیں آئے گی تب آپ کو بتا چاہے وہ چانٹا آپ کو لگا ہے اور آپ کو پیار جل جاتا ہے آپ کو پیار ہو گیا ہے ابھی آپ acknowledge کرو and now do something about it express yourself تو تب تک آپ کی cool acting چل رہی ہے اور بہت لوگی کسا ہوتے ہیں سب cool ہوتے ہیں یا امنار تو کمیرے امنار I'm like playing it cool we're in a this relationship situation کیا ہے یہ چیزیں کیا ہے situation کیا ہے وہ کوئی تیسرے کو آنے دو نا وہ جگہ آپ کی کوئی اور لے لے تو ابھی آپ کا سیٹویشن شپ جو ہے نا وہ شپ بلکل دوب جائے گا تو وہ سیٹویشن وہ کچھ اور ہی ہو جائے گا پیار جو ہے نا پیار ایک ایک مسائل ہے ایک طاقت ہے ایک پاہور ہے اس کے کوئی ریپلیسمنٹ اینجی نہیں ہو سکتی پیار کو کون ریپلیس کر سکتا ہے پیار کی ریپلیسمنٹ ہوئی نہیں سکتی ہو ہی نہیں سکتی are you calling jealousy love no the feeling of jealousy realizes you about love it's not even jealousy it's the feeling that what is my place might be filled by someone else it could start with jealousy but if you are practical about that feeling you don't need to feel jealous you have to own up to that this is love for me maybe the person I am feeling that for doesn't feel the same back for me that might start the trigger could be jealousy but you should instead of feeling jealous you should realize کہ میں یہ کیوں فیل کر رہا ہوں کیونکہ actually یہ معبت ہے یہ پیار ہے مجھے کیوں یہ insecurity ہو رہی ہے کہ یہ مجھ سے چلا جائے گا تو اس عشق کو acknowledge کرنا will be the intelligent thing to do پھر کوئی reciprocate نہیں کر رہا ہے تو پھر یہ ایک طرف obsession نہیں ہے اور ایک طرف obsession ہو سکتا ہے پھر obsession is not a right thing جب میرا پیار جو تھا وہ ایک طرف پیار تھا it never went into an obsessive nature it never went into toxic nature ان چیزوں سے میں بالکل میں خلاف ہوں I don't like toxicity to enter a pure emotion even if it's one-sided love میرا جو پیار تھا نا وہ بے شمار تھا وہ پیار تھا ایک طرفہ تھا پر کبھی negative نہیں تھا میں نے کبھی نہیں چاہا کہ وہ انسان جو مجھے واپس پیار نہیں نہیں دے پا رہا وہ انسان سے میں نفرت کروں یا میں کسی کچھ برا چاہوں میں نے بس ایک دن تھان لیا کہ یہ پیار میرا نہیں تھا اور نہیں ہوگا اور مجھے بس اس بات سے میں بس جتنی جلدی کر پاؤں اتنا بہتر ہے تو میں نے فلم لکھ ڈالی and that was cathartic for me and wow I'm just thinking about something because I'm connecting your story with so many movies now all little pieces from here and there and dialogues چل رہے ہیں but you mentioned کہ کبھی بھی آپ نے ایسا پیار نہیں کیا کہ وہ toxic ہو جائے are you aware of your toxic traits do you know about them I don't believe I have any toxic traits I really don't and I'm not saying it because I'm a perfect person I have my weaknesses I don't think I have any toxic trait because I don't have hate in me I don't feel jealousy I feel envy I don't feel hate I feel indifference I feel love I feel compassion I never feel I hate this person جتنا کوئی مجھے جیسا کوئی لوگ ہے جو مجھے بالکل جو مجھے ایفیکٹ انہوں نے میری زندگی کو ایفیکٹ کیا نیگٹیوی میرے بارے میں چیزیں کہیں ہیں but I don't hate anybody میں ان کو I always say تیرا تجھ کو ارپنڈ کیا لاغے میرا your karma تم اپنے karma کو دیکھ رو بھئی but relationship میں ہم سب کا کوئی نہ کوئی trait ہوتا ہے which ends up becoming like میں unapologetically ایسا ہی ہوں and that is I am not an over possessive person I'm not an over jealous person I'm actually بہت ہی شانت قسم کا calm zen person ہوں میں کبھی hyper نہیں ہوتا and when I'm hyper I'm hyper about little things like efficiency inefficiency bothers me at work کہ میں نے اگر کہا کہ مجھے blue mug چاہیے اور آپ مجھے green mug چاہیے میں چار بار آپ کو کہہ چکا کہ مجھے blue mug چاہیے اور آپ نے green mug ڈال دے کہ ہاں green ہے that'll bother me ورکار آپ نے کہا کہ یار شوٹنگ ہی نہیں ہو سکتی کیونکہ سیٹ کوئی بارش ہو گئی ہے بہت بڑا سٹارم ہو آیا ہے ٹھیک ہے آپ نیچر سے آپ تھوڑی لڑ پاؤ گے چھوٹی چیزیں مجھے زیادہ irradiate کرتی ہیں ورنہ میں بہت کام لیم لیکن I lose my temper it's once in a year اور بہت ہی stupid چیز کو لے کے میں سڈنی گستا ہو جاؤں گا بڑے چیزوں میں بڑے situations میں بڑے حالات میں بڑے stress levels میں میں بہت کام انسان ہوں you know in fact میرے ساتھ ہوا بھی تھا جب بہت چیزیں ہو رہی تھیں میرے بارے میں میرے خلاف social media میں television channels news channels میں لوگ بات کر رہے تھے تو سب پوچھتے تھے how are you and I'm like yeah fine so once a really dear friend I won't mention his name he came to my house he said I want to sit with you he sat had dinner we chatted 2 گنٹوں کے بعد he said تو ٹیک ہے میں سلام ہی ٹیک ہوں he said تجھے پتا ہم ہے anything you need you combine to talking you're seeming fine.

1:12:55Everybody's feeling that you're fine. I said yes, I am fine. So they said but why are you fine? Look at what's going on around you. There's a storm, there's a tornado, hurricane ہے social media پہ. I said بیچ جائے گی نا. کہاں ٹکے گی? یہ hurricane جو ہے eventually there will be a lull after this storm. میں اس لل کا انتظار کر رہا ہوں. storm ہے تو ہے میں کیا کر سکتا ہوں? میرے پاس lifeboat ابھی نہیں ہے بھائیا. تو میں میں میں سٹرم میں ہوں let the storm destroy me I will emerge tell me are you a boat or an anchor I am an anchor do you know there was a study done do you know what boat and anchors do no but I am going by my self understanding of this analogy I mean I am an anchor an anchor is somebody who can help a boat a sail I can be an anchor I am uncomfortable being just the boat no in your relationships everywhere are you the anchor yeah yeah always so it's there was a study done I don't remember exact university so usually you directly randomly people ask boat or anchor and majority people choose their answers that's usually their personality and their closest relationships they're opposite so let's say if you are an anchor so you are the one who holds everybody centers together you are the reason why people come together and then there are boats which are explorers who are going to be and they are going to be and you like usually a boat and anchor are like very good combination together so are you anchor in your relationship and then people around you are boats I don't know I can't speak for others but I know that I feel like an anchor your friends also I feel like and I think if you speak to some of my dearest friends they'll tell you that I'm probably an anchor but I'm not saying they're boats maybe they're anchors too two anchors can also be yeah of course but majority time i have a feeling anchors attract other anchors where does usually boat and anchor go very high in my case i won't respect a boat too much if it constantly needs an anchor and is not after a while i'll be like if i'm only anchoring you and you're just boating away then isn't that a one way relationship a boat sometimes when you over anchor a boat a boat also gets over dependent and doesn't do anything an anchor also needs an anchor بہت philosophical بات ہوئی but yeah true I am usually I believe I am boat in my life and the closest relationships I have with my brother with my partner with my mom and dad like usually and they are all anchors people who are close to me and it's very and I thought but you are very then you are privileged that you can be a smooth sailing boat with so many angles because extremely privileged with good relationships around yeah I want to touch touch wood touch wood God bless and made that continue do you feel lonely all the time because this part missing all the time all the time many a time I'm a lonely person I mean I'm in the world I don't know who's there but in the world in the world تنہائی actually but I feel it of so many people there were lines written so beautifully in Jagjit Singh کا ایک غزل تھا کہ ہر طرف ہر جگہ بے شمار آدمی پھر بھی تنہائیوں کا شکار آدمی you know and I believe it that most people are lonely I feel آپ بھیڑ میں بہت تنہا لوگوں کو پاؤ گے کیونکہ لوگ people they cannot replace your sense of loneliness if you are a lonely person you will be a lonely person and even a relationship might not fill that void I might be lonely in a relationship I am a lonely person and I have two beautiful children an absolutely lovely mother some great relationship friendships I am blessed with the friends I have they are all family and still you are lonely yes کیوں ایسے یہ سمجھ نہیں ہے if there are people because میں ان لوگوں سے میں سے نہیں ہوں جو اپنے daily خیال یا emotions کا اظہار کر سکتا ہوں میں نہیں کر پاتا میں نہیں بول پاتا کہ میری actual feeling کیا ہے مجھے نہیں لگتا کہ میں کسی اور مجھے ہمیشہ لگتا ہے کہ وہ میں کسی پر وہ added responsibility نہیں دینا چاہتا وہ بوجھ نہیں بنا چاہتا ہے ان کو میرے خیالوں سے میں ڈوبانا نہیں چاہتا میں بولنا ہی نہیں چاہتا میں اندر ہی اندر رکھ لیتا ہوں and when you have a lot of thoughts that you don't share you invariably become lonely کیونکہ پھر آپ کے خیال جو ہے وہ آپ کے دوست بن جاتے اور وہ تنہائی آپ کو چوپتی نہیں ہے آپ اسے بھی اپنا لیتے ہو do I like being lonely?

1:17:55yes to answer your question I'm a lonely person but I'm not an unhappy person مجھے اپنی تنہائی بہت پسند ہے and یہ اس لیے پسند ہے because you don't like to share things with others or because جو بھی میں بولتا ہوں لوگ دھنگ سے سمجھتے نہیں نہیں I don't like to share and why is that because اپنی دل کی بات کہنے سے کوئی اور اپنا نہیں ہو جاتا بات پرائے ہو جاتی ہے اور میں اپنی بات کو پرائے نہیں کرنا چاہتا nice I'm like you in this case yeah and I always question is it a bad thing I don't think so I think my thoughts eventually become things like the secret suggests but my thoughts are also my own and I like to keep them to myself I'm territorial about my thoughts مجھے پسند ہے کہ میرے خیال میرے اپنے ہیں اور میں ان خیال روز کے خیال, روزماری کے خیال روز دن کے خیال میں شیئر کرنا ہی نہیں چاہتا جو چیز میں شیئر کرنا چاہتا ہوں وہ میں کرتا ہوں وہ کبھی کبھی ایکسکلوسی بھی نہیں ہوتا میں نے پچار لوگوں کے ساتھ شہر کر لیا پانچ لوگوں کے ساتھ شہر کر لیا I am very in touch with my feelings تو جب میں therapy sessions بھی میں نے کیے ہیں میں anxiety سے بھی گزرا ہوں anxiety کا medication میں نے لی ہے کیونکہ that needed to be addressed it was at one juncture in my life I needed to address it but therapy sessions میں نہیں کرتا ہے anymore because میں واقعی میں کوئی trained therapist نہیں ہوں لیکن میں خود کا therapist بن سکتا ہوں میں problem آگے ڈال کے اس کا solve میں ڈھونڈ سکتا ہوں اور میں اس problem کے گھڑ پہ بھی جا سکتا ہوں کہ یہ problem کیوں ہوئی ہے میرے ساتھ میں نے یہ کروایا ہے اب اس سے مجھے repair کرنا ہے تو I know the root of the issue and I have the solve of the issue and I talk to myself about the issue and I find a way out تو therapy کی ضرورت ابھی نہیں ہے ہاں social anxiety دو تین سال سے آئی ہے Ironically For a person Social anxiety For you You're socially anxious I'm anxious In closed rooms With 100 people Like I feel If I don't have an outlet Like if there were 20 people in this room We are in a closed space I would be very uncomfortable But because It's just you and me And Otherwise This particular room Would have been a big red flag for me.

1:20:34But there's like a claustrophobia. Like if this was a proper shoot, I wouldn't be able to shoot. There were a hundred people in this room. I can't see window. It's not so much claustrophobia. There is an anxiety. And when I go to a party, I leave. People say I go to a party, I don't go to a party. I go to a party for 5 minutes and I go to a party. Everybody knows this about me. I'll come to a party, I'll go to a party. I don't stay. I have to stay. When I do, I've stopped throwing parties recently. I don't want to get an attendee. I don't want to get people. کیوں اگدم جیسا چینج کیوں you were very social before no I don't feel it anymore ابھی میں خوش ہوں اپنے دوستوں کے ساتھ وہ گھر آتے میں ان کے گھر آتا ہوں مجھے نہیں ملنا سو لوگوں سے مجھے نہ انڈسٹری سے بڑی پارٹیز میں ملنا ہے مجھے ملنا ہی نہیں I don't feel I feel میں اپنے ابھی میں واقعی مجھے بہت effort ڈالنا پڑتا ہے to be a version of what they believe I am or they've met before so I have to be that sociable accessible person تو اس کی acting میں اور نہیں کر سکتا کیونکہ now I suddenly can't become ایک party میں کونے پہ بیٹھا ہوں کیونکہ میری personality نہیں رہی ہے past میں میری past میں میں ہر جگہ جاتا ہوں ہم سے ملتا ہوں ہستے کھیلتے ملتا ہوں with warmth تو ابھی مجھے وہ anxiety کہ آرے مجھے یہی کرنا ہوگا میں اس situation میں ہونے ہی نہیں چاہتا میں اس لئے چلا جاتا ہوں تو ایسا کیا ہوا کہ یہ personality پچا نہیں ہو گیا it happened to me I had an attack one day میں ایک بہت بڑا ایوینت پہ تھا ایک بہت بڑا ایوینت پہ تھا پانک اٹھا I got a panic attack an anxiety attack میں ایوینت پہ تھا اور میں سارت پر اپنیر and I could feel my hand and feet shake and a friend of mine took me to the corner and you know gave me water then I left and the first thing is I went to my doctor because I thought یہ شاید کاریک آرست ہو پتہ نہیں کیا ہے he said you're going through an anxiety attack and I met my psychologist اس کے بعد I started medication and I'm still on it میں روز کھاتا ہوں دوائی and hopefully slowly I'll wean it off but یہ mental health کا issue ہے میری ساتھ اس کے پہلے 2016 میں بھی ہوا تھا that was related a little bit to my broken heart that anxiety that was the trigger یہ پتہ نہیں عمر کے وجہ سے maybe excessive being a people pleaser trying to be a people's person can get to you اور آپ the irony is کہ وہ لوگ جسے آپ سالوں سے محبت کرتے آ رہے ہیں not لوگ as in particular people people انہی سے آپ کو ڈر لگنے لگتا ہے تو وہ آ جاتا ہے کبھی انہی سے آپ نہیں ملنا چاہتے ہیں اور میبھی psychologically I feel post covid کا یہ ایک collateral damage ہے میری personality میں آپ کی المتابda کی کوت mientras کے ساتن اشتował کیلication تح Gabe کہتا ہے تعالی فورتا ہے ضنا کوت réussi میں آپ کیل آپ کی셨나요 لığı جلال خانستر ملوگ جتل Hein کے ساتھ ربق hastے

1:23:39صور راست اور فورتها صورت تنیب س Lebما what a cardiac arrest feels like but this is what a panic attack felt to me and then after water it just goes away no nothing goes away of course some medication is given to you to control yourself so for like how long does this last mine went on for 5-10 minutes and then I drank water and I had a regular coke I felt my sugar had dropped so I had a regular coke and my sugar level went up maybe and then I went straight to the hospital to the doctors not hospital I went to the clinic I called my GP my family doctor he met me at his clinic quite late 11 at night what's the price you pay for being Karan Jor is there a price you pay I don't think so I think there's only

1:24:38there's nothing there's no downside I mean I feel how dare I have a downside look at my life I am recognized I am acknowledged even if I am hated I am still known I know no matter what I do I will not just be a footnote in Indian cinema I will be a little more than that مولی حوچک ہے how can I say there is any downside to being who I am but have you made any sacrifices to be here no I mean maybe I would have loved to have had a personal life I don't have one I wish I could be I wish I could be in a relationship I am not in a relationship because you always work that's why you have never given time i have because of who i am it's tough to kind of you know trust easily or be i don't know it's just tough for me like the one thing that i regret in my life you ask me what's the one slightly empty area or dark area or in unfulfilled area it's the area of not being in a relationship okay quick question this guy's my last question you your name was rahul and your movies have راحل as the male protagonist جب راحل اتنا زیادہ نام celebrate کرنا تھا تو خود کا نام change کیوں کیا میں نے نہیں کیا میرا کیا لینا دینا تھا اس چیزے کیوں کیوں کی خود کا change ہوا اس لیے کیوں کی راحل ایک ادھورہ رہ گیا تھا کہ راحل میرے کنڈلی کا حصہ in some form ہونا چاہیے تو شارک was called راحل in the first two films that I directed ممی نے چینج کیا میرے جنب پتری کا نام راحل کمار جوار ہے ممی نے چھٹا آیا seven day she woke up and said نہیں مجھے نام کرن کرن چاہیے ممی کا سپنا آیا تھا ان کو پیپل کال می فیملی ٹوٹل کرن جوار فین اور آل تیلیو وائے میرے موم وڈیاد نے بھاگ کے شادی کری میرا نام راج رکھا میں چھوٹے ہی کے نام راحل رکھا اوہ وائو ایڈونیو ایڈونیو ایڈونیو ایڈونیو ایڈونیو ایڈونیو ایڈونیو

1:26:45ایڈونیو Everybody loves you with the family. Everybody is Raj Rahul meaning obviously they love him. Okay. Is there is there any controversy because of Coffee with Karan that you wish it would have never happened? I mean Something that personally bothers you care could you be in Limelight I mean you know I always look at when you're a host that means who you called is your guest so I feel formulamayı ұс門ує ویڈیو promotion неORی

1:27:49نہیں really worried and scared about that. But they both emerged and in fact emerged even stronger and I'm really grateful. I'm not a cricket fanatic at all but I started following matches only to watch their careers. Because I was like, what was going on? That threw me off. That episode threw me off. But other than that, whoever said what they've said, they felt they needed to say and as a host, تحیدل سے ان کو شکریہ کہ وہ میرے شہر سیٹ پے آئے میرے شو پے آئے انہوں نے جو کہنا تھا وہ کہہ دیا. I don't regret anything that they have said I don't regret anything that I should have cut I didn't cut I always respect people who say what they want yes if anybody has ever asked me to cut something out after the show I always cut it because I feel like I have come in good faith and you have asked me something you have said something that you should not have said maybe but got carried away and said I always say that anything you feel call me and I'll cut it out because that is the respect you give the guest who's come because they're a mehman you know so that is the one thing I've done but otherwise I many people say why didn't you cut this out why didn't you cut that out I'm like no they came they said it in good faith I will keep it I will not cut till they ask for me to cut something so you keep you're not do you feel what was blown out of proportion and was okay I think they spoke from their heart I thought they were and the way it was perceived on social media it was ridiculous I'm sorry I don't agree with the reaction they were beautiful they were honest they were earnest they were sincere they were beautifully in love with each other they're a wonderful couple I've known them personally now they have a gorgeous daughter I'm like respect their love story don't judge it that's all I have to say perfect okay I have 5000 more questions but I can't ask you because we'll meet for dinner and I'll ask you personal questions and you'll have to answer me off camera off camera tell you anything on camera also I've told you enough actually off camera toh baort zare baat perfect okay one last question which I ask everybody who I really put in high regards is give me one advice how can I make this better how can I make my podcast better you have observed little bit of it or maybe you've watched previous episode ever and now that you've experienced kya kar sakta so that I really learn and get better genuine advice and you can be brutal you know just to sound clever I don't want to say something because I really felt that this conversation genuinely felt relaxed I felt relaxed I like that you've already for people جو یہاں نہیں ہے میں ان سے کہنا چاہوں گا یہاں کوئی نہیں ہے اس کمرے میں صرف میں اور آج ہوں نہ کوئی آواز ہے نہ sound ہے نہ میری آئی لائن میں کوئی ہے کیمرہ ہے میرے سامنے بر ان کے پیچھے کوئی نہیں ہے تو I feel these are things that nobody else possibly I've not been on a podcast جو یہ یہ آتا بارن یہاں set ہوا ہے تو وہ رہی ہو چکا ہے آپ میرے انٹرسٹنگ میں نے بات یہ observe بھی کیا ہے کہ میں نے کچھ چیزیں کہیں ہیں آپ واپس چلے جاتے ہو to what you want you don't go lot of times people take your last set word and go to the next then I don't have to tell you you actually listen to what I am saying because بہت ساری انٹیویز جو ہوتے ہیں وہ صرف اپنے لسٹ کے questions پوچھنا چاہتے ہیں وہ آپ کے جوابوں میں انٹرسٹ ہے زیادہ نہیں آپ واقعی انٹرسٹ ہوں so I think you've ticked many boxes Raj I'm not saying it because you asked me for feedback I have no immediate critical feedback to give you کہ آپ اسے بہتر کیا کر سکتے ہو بس یہی میں بس آپ کے لئے چاہوں گا that آج کر میں بہت podcast دیکھتا ہوں and I feel that everyone is coming to bring someone else down in a podcast sometimes and I feel some questions are leading you to that جو آپ نے نہیں پوچھا مجھ سے and I'm grateful for I just feel I wish everybody spoke their heart out but you don't have to speak about somebody else bring them down to speak your heart out.

1:31:53Podcast should be about your honesty at the moment جتنا سچا آپ بول سکتے ہو تب ہی آئیے آپ podcast پہ لیکن کسی اور آپ کوئی baggage پچھلے 20 سال کا baggage آپ carry کر رہے ہو وہ اس podcast میں کیوں نکال رہے ہو کیوں کسی کی بھرائی کر رہے ہو کیونکہ آپ eventually clickbait headline بن جاؤ گے اور پھر وہی آپ کی استعتبہ بن جائے گی وہ ایک لائن جو اپنے کسی بارکاس میں بولی تھی مت کہو اپنے بارے میں بات کرو اتنا کچھ ہے اپنے بارے میں بات کرنے لائک اپنے اچھیمیں کے بارے میں بات کرو and I'm glad you didn't go down a lot of lanes that you could have and I appreciate it thank you thank you so much I've not played a racket sport in 34 years so my day not I'm not very good at it at all we'll play one day I'm also not good at it oh god then we must play I'm looking for bad paddle players because میرے ساتھ سارے اچھے players جو بھی کھیلتے ساتھ بھی please Raj will play تم دور رہتے ہو لیکن you'll have to travel thank you so much یہ episode end تک دیکھنے کے لیے اب آپ کو تین چیزیں کرنی ہے number one ابھی کے ابھی اس چینل کو subscribe کر لو کیونکہ جتنا آپ subscribe کریں گے اتنے ہی valuable اور better guest ہم آپ کے لیے لا پائیں گے number two ابھی comments میں مجھے بتاؤ کہ اس episode سے آپ کو کیا سیکھنے کو ملا اور اگلا ایسا کونسا guest ہے جو آپ چاہتے ہو جن کو ہم ادھر بلائیں ان سے ہم انسائیٹفل باتیں کریں تاکہ آپ ایک بہتر انسان بن سکیں and number 3 یہ اپیسوڈ کسی ایک انسان کے ساتھ ضرور شیئر کرنا کیونکہ ایک conversation انہاف ہوتی ہے کسی کی پوری life change کرنے کے لئے I'll see you next time until then keep figuring out

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