Paresh Rawal on Bollywood’s Reality, Oscar Awards, Anger & Baburao | FO427 Raj Shamani

29:05What is love? Okay, tell me this then Love is understanding Giving space to each other Growing together Give me your Ideal definition of romance And love When you said that which will be depth, what will happen? Give me scenario, give me a story. Because you're saying that today all hormones driven, random. Love, I understand that in crisis, in despair, in difficult times, love is the savior. I say in times when one person thinks that is love, I understand that. The rest of the good is good. When does love need to be learned? such a divine thing, that you have to learn in the same time. And did you have a sister?

29:57Yeah, two sisters. Two sisters. One of them passed away. My elder one passed away. How was your relationship with them? Very good, yeah. Very good. Very good. Masti, maramari, balbal khensha, and what they have in the sibling. But after they got married and all that, so when they are not there, you miss them terribly. you know I have grown up in a joint family and my two daughters are my daughter's daughter we all together and my very cousins now 10 daughters 10 12 daughters I have all daughters of their daughters all daughters in the house all daughters and almost all the same age and I think I was a person who made a bad person in life like they were because of their way to speak with them to speak with them to speak with them so I was like people are standing like the girls but yeah amazing yeah like women energy in life is so important because you become a person yeah but so small things that sorry thank you please that's not even like I was just I was like how it happens I don't know and it's so important to have What have you learned from your sister?

31:18Thayera. Lot of thayera. So you are very reckless, energetic. You are very impatient. Oh, very. Anxious, full of anxiety, impulsive, of course. And your sister is complete opposite. Complete opposite. Thayera. She didn't have so much hunger, anxious, anxiety. She had, but she still kept control. If there is tension in the house, then it will be the one who will relax. It will be a very calming effect. And why are you like this? I think you should do this, do this, do this, do this, do this. I think that everything should be promptly. Now? Not now. Not now. now, we are not going to realize even one of us, promptly, as we do so much, theztura may fortunas will scream more than two.

32:12After this, what if the gut will say that the men of the achievers can use the intent. what is it? No, it is very necessary. Just thinking and understanding, and seeing the steps of taking the steps, it is very necessary. Do you not think that people are all the achievers, they are very urgent, they have to do everything, they have to do everything, they have to do everything, they have to do everything without thinking, they will see. No, it is a wrong thing. Were you not like that? You have to do that for a long time? No, I was... But last, I think, 12-15 years I think I think I think I think the age you work in the world you are living in the world you are living in the world living in the world you are you are growing in the world so you have everything comes to the world but do you think that if you are young when you are 19-20 you are so so bad then you are better I don't think so exactly So, young age in a young age, there should not be a therapy.

33:21There should be a impulse. Do it. Do it. Yes, but people have seen such a lot in that age. Stop. Stop. Stop. What's happening? I've seen such a lot. I've seen such a lot. So, that's better or this version is better? It's better to be a fool. Impulse is better or a therapy is better in a young age? That depends on the result. Which comes from? Yeah. What did he get to him and what did he get to him? If he compares both, he knows. But in your life, if you look back? No, that was foolish. He was foolish. I didn't think so. What mistake you had done, tell me? How did you feel that that was foolish?

34:10I had killed someone. I didn't kill him. But I had put on the wall and put on the wall. That was wrong. I had been hurt a lot later. Then I was also at home, I met him. Then we became friends also. Not good friends, we became friends also. So, you were hitting the wall in the audience? No, in the audience I was hitting the wall. I was doing a drama in the audience. Continuous comments were coming. Continuous and vulgar comments and all that. He didn't have to take it or give it to the play. So, in my interview, I said, I couldn't stop my... So, he went straight to the audience and killed him. He saw me, he was in the sound of the sound.

35:05He was killed. He was also talking. after that, there was a lot of trouble. After all the producers of the drama, those people who were in the program, there was a play that was done. The theatre had also thought, we won't come here in the theatre. He was a lot. Three or four. He was a lot, because you were in the field. He didn't leave there. Yes. but they were shocked before they could realize I was straight and that they got a lot of anger and they went and went and then it took off do you think you did the right thing? yes why did you say that? I was commenting on the right I didn't like anything after killing no remorse I didn't want to say that do you feel sometimes anger comes from pain and helplessness yeah anger basic emotion is hurt our Hindi people anger is up to up to up to up if you are telling me something if I am not hurt that reaction is different either I will be submissive or I will be I will be that I will be or I will be but basic emotion is hurt do you think in your home Whenever you saw your father being angry, you saw that as power or you saw that as protection?

36:42Anguish. Explain. No power. Anguish was a deep pain. Why do we not understand? Why do we do that? Helplessness. Why do we not have a life for our lives? How long will we protect you? Now, understand. as I got aeration scourge, something like that. People are saying, God, are not getting CARED at all, what will he? What a trip you are on the screen to show my heart's Ethiopia, staring at it in the world. Why are we irrelevant and roz Journey? For example, what is so sad. They are angry, there is too anger that they are played. and it they feel that they have failed we have failed we have failed sometimes that anger sometimes it will be on itself that why I didn't understand this why did I not understand this why did I not understand this it will be like this and maybe it also comes from I am just thinking from the things that you have told me that one of the protection love love of love.

37:53I was angry at that time, that I want to save it. What happens to me? Like when you were in the taxi. It's a more protection. It's the same thing, what is going on in the world? I don't know how to teach this. If you don't know how to live life in the future. Exactly. I've never heard that. I've never heard about that. I've never heard about that. I felt so helpless. I can't reach out to my boy. Where will he be? Who will he be? And we always have a wrong thought. Sometimes it doesn't come. If not, we will play a game. Sometimes we will play cricket, we will eat ice cream, we will eat Bihalpuri.

38:39We always have a bad thought.

38:47That drives you. and that feeling of protection drives anger inside you and as you get angry do you hear yourself sometime like is it is it your own voice when you get angry is it the version of you or is it the version of your father that comes in you no no no do you sound like your father when you are angry no No. No.

39:23My anger is more violent. Do you feel in general people have a lot of anger in today's time? Yeah. Why? Every thing is anger. One, the anger is also coming, but you don't understand the story. The other thing is when uncertainty is okay. will be a place. That's also a shame. The third thing is that you want to exert yourself and you want to kind of prove a point. That I am also a good one. Everyone has a fashion to be hurt, a shame to be hurt. I have this. My privilege is to be hurt. They want to encash that. That's also possible. Some people must be having a reason also. But have you noticed, sir, Generally, people are less tolerant.

40:16It gets angry on every thing. Yeah, yeah. Like you said, those were the times were generous. Yeah, yeah. People were generous. They were fun. They didn't do it. No. No, now it's true that pilots will be able to plug in with the religion. One of our very wonderful pictures was Road to Sangam. I said that there was a wonderful dialogue. that in a able image, was this took a picture of who is moved against what manner I loaned to something that我不 is going to do the same. God thinks like I said pramandman, Muslimman, Nadal bull Shortly after screaming after being a Christian, I will get to get it.

41:09Someone will get a good friend. Support. So, the religion is easy. The religion is like a bulletproof jacket. I have put it. Now you cannot touch me. Then the other one will have to wear the other religion.

41:26But why do you think that people are so aggressive and so angry? Like they want to form something. it's me versus you.

42:0590 % I believe majority majority people use for benefit some people who are actually right path others use for their meaning or for justification but this is also that if you do it then you have to do it it will be it will be you have to anticipate that you have to do it Why? In anticipation. I also become a force. You will become powerful all of this. Then I will go. So you feel that people group with the religion because they are for power. There is no other motive. The most motivating is not anything. now you do movies like these which is fun and you challenge many things but for the longest time people give you a haira fairy and you said what do you mean by that because what happens for people's hope to fulfill people keep on churning out the same thing in that In this example, Raju Hirani is a man.

43:37Mbbs, Lagiru Munnawai. Same character, different backdrop. A travel, a journey, people also get fun to see. How will all these circuits do? Bigger challenges. Unknown terrain. It's a fun. What about this? They are all in it. So, the other thing is that when you have such a big character, 500 crore of goodwill, why don't you take a risk? Why don't you fly? Why are you stagnant? mud ke andar cemented ho gaya ho eki kaanhi kiya her who karna chagiyo that was my contention ke alag tariqa to karo aap kar hai an audience ma you sum art on audience you attem karo gaya alag to sympathetic hote he daad day tink nahi bhai ya is ne alag kiya ya kya bata ya mada ya wun pahele jaysa mada nye but this is also a good thing.

44:39There will be sympathetic. This should happen. You are adding your advantage to your advantage. Take it and take it. Take it and take it. Take it and take it. Same thing, people don't get nostalgic. It doesn't come to you. Yes, it doesn't come. And now, in COVID, people have bought the food of the U.T. for three years. People have changed the taste. Don't take them for granted.

45:14Did people see you as just that person for a long time because you played that role? What image is that? Exactly. I played a lot of good roles but this is what happens. Yes, everything. Comedy, most affable character. Somebody told me that you are more popular than R.K. Lakshman's common man. You have that kind of a trait. into their inner strength, their quirkiness, and there's a loveability, there's a idiosyncrasy, there's a fool, there's a fun, you feel like cuddling him and all that. These are all the things that are, then you have to be a character. People want their pound of flesh, so give it to him, but give it a little packaging.

45:59Why do people see this like this? It seems like intelligent people are churning out. out the same thing, yeah. Koi gada bevkoopata saman mein aati hai, bazi, eskut kut aata hi nahi, bhai, yehi karega hoi. Lekin, intelligent lok, agar, kare, dusre tariq, asad, mada aai. Are you bored of this? Kis era fairy and everything, and like, you ho ga hai, same character, same, haa, ba, bori, iske liye, ba, hai, kya scope hai, kya tremendous scope hai, ye character mein, bhai. Kya hai? He can do anything.

46:41His credibility, his believability is so dangerous. He can do anything. And you will believe whatever Baburau says. His truth is Kamaal. His innocence is a little child. He will do it. He will do it in another story. But if you have a movie hit, because you have a movie hit, Baburau, Now, people want to do this in different movies. No, I had stopped it. I said, I will do it. If you have made it, you will be a bad boy. No, it's a little bit. I will do it. But it comes, it comes, it comes, because everybody wants to end cash. Yeah. And you didn't. Why? End cash? No. No, man. The other thing is that legally, this is the property of the Firoz Nadiad.

47:33If you put a picture of the Firod Nadiad, then you can understand the thing. If you put a picture of the Firod Nadiad, and you can't do it, then you can't do it. I can't do it legally.

47:51This is a virtue out of helplessness. I can't do it legally. But it's working in your favor, right? You don't have to do it like that. Thankful. No, so this is what you do. Yes, this is what you do. Keep going. I really love Chup Chup Kameh Rol. I really love like that's my one of the favorites. I like Hira Ferry because I like that. My friend became a plastic fan. But I like that. I like the timing of that character yeah why he means selfish man he doesn't mean to the world where do you find that yeah and you enjoy serious roles or comedy roles dark what is the darkest you have played Mumbai my name oh he lucky lucky oh he road to sangham a picture of my dear father I made a picture in Gujarati in the movie.

48:59He is telling the dialogue in the movie. Yes. If you were given a choice to play the darkest character of the movie, what character is and explain about that character. The darkest one is not a villain and all that. In terms of dark human being in utter crisis, a severe grip of what to do, where to go and all that kind of thing. It's chaos. Chaos, right? No. very, very, very, very difficult. Just for example, not comparing. Like there will be blood. What? Everything you get. The son is this. The son is not made from the brother. He's lost himself. Deranged. I mean, the character of that character.

49:49That journey. No light at the end of the tunnel. Why does it enjoy this? It's challenging. Then, you can see yourself what kind of a person you are. So, for example, you gave me a script. I can identify some dialogue easily. That's me. and I don't do anything with anything. That's not me. Simple. So, if I identify myself, I can understand my blueprint. This is a good luck. This is not how we will do it. What will you think about it? What will you understand? What will you imagine? That's the way. How do you imagine dark characters? Yeah. In a movie, you can take an example. you make a story in mind.

50:54In mind, you get to know everything. Everything in your mind. Whatever character you are doing, everything is inside you. Just a little bit, everything gets to know everything. For example, a character is taken away from there, and it's fun. Different day. I don't remember anything. But that was my thing. It was my pick-up.

51:18And some people stay in your mind.

51:24not because they are because they are solid, real believable, that's why they stay with you

51:33and and and and and and and and and and and and and Okay. I do this work here. I'm very fun. I've asked a question sometimes. Everyone is well-versed. Usually, many people who have done a lot in business, in life, PhDs, and some of them have been asked to think about it. Sometimes they have questions that they think that okay, I don't know. I was aren't angry at all like having anger from you so I saw my teacher My father reminded me that he did a little notice idkya sense to listen to my ear As Amir congratulations in this moment say, right? They're the narration, they'll give them normal answers.

52:45But when I say to them, give them a picture of a narration or a story to listen, then it's a very number of pause and then he starts. It's a very powerful person. It's not a loose talk. I say loose talk, but when he sits down, loose talk wala nahin ho bando so I learned that ki what I felt us me ki jab unko apne story sunnani ho tii na to wait kertai ki hawa bhi settle ho jai sab settle ho ja or mein phir bolong ha ki full attention chai he merko dek raha na dh to a agle s wala to n s and I loved that yeah to a se my I do this here, but your life will be more interesting. You'll meet with Rose actors and you'll meet so many different people.

53:37You like to talk about things and perspective. And what are the basic things they want to see from different ways. Yes, yes. The work of actor is that. To do different ways. Same thing. Yeah, so to do different ways, it's one way to do different ways. The director would say, to do different ways. So, okay. But you get to understand, but you have to do three, four other things. That gives added shine.

54:03Then, you said something new to understand today. You said, when you said something, I'm sure it will be different. An actor's job is to act. A batsman's job is to score runs. Not to woo the press. Yeah. You said it way before. Yeah. Do you think that it's true today? Yes, it's true today. But you...

54:31but do you think that today is the truth because before it is only acting from acting

54:39my work is also but it is also other things but I do I do I do I do I do I do I do I do I do I do I do Putin I do Chomsky was saying different things. But this is different, you're doing it at home. But you have to do the press, and to do the people, No, no, no. My job is to do acting. How do I do it? I have written, I have directed, I have composed music, I have not a heroine. So I will do it with my acting. I will do it with them. Simple as that. But do you think new actors now can be relevant just by doing acting? Yeah, yeah. Why not? What works? Like, sirf... Lot of times you see that only acting works not work.

55:35Many people were young actors, but disappeared. But, guys, look, guys, we do packaging. Then, social media, we do this. I do this, I do that. I try to create multi-faceted personality. But ultimately, where is acting? You have come to the English channel, and you have done great. Then you have done the same role as well, or not? You have done the same role as well. I have done the same role as well. But what has done the same role as well? I will do my work. to do. Whoever I get money, whoever I get so much adulation, attention, I get so much work. Who does it get more than the work? Just the work better than the biggest influence?

56:30Just the work better than the biggest influence? Even today? Even today. People say, follow or follow, I don't know. This arithmetic doesn't come to me. But then, you should get a job from your work. But have you seen That Have you seen That some good work But Because they There was no influential connection In the industry Or they could not get Or they could not make Or their multi-faceted personality So they could not take them Because they were going to do good work Now I think You don't see Ranbir Kapoor anywhere On social media You don't see Vicky Kaushar fantastic actor on social media. For that, I didn't even Aliyah Bhatt.

57:18Jam. That's also social media. It's a little bit. Some people are studying. They're all the army. They get a little bit. But that doesn't make a profile. You don't have to be in that. You have to be in balance sheet. You have to be in passbook. You don't have to be in that. You have to be in Ranbir Kapoor. It's out of the mouth. So, it's your work. No one else. So, the statement is true. I have said the rest of the rest. You are right. Yeah. And then, one line is interesting. I don't understand it. I want to ask you. An actor will survive. A star won't. Stardom is time bound. Yeah. Stars come with expiry dates written on them.

58:10Yeah. What do you mean? Star means that when you have a picture, you are star. After that, you are not. Actor keeps playing. It's simply as class. Class is permanent. I said, star's age is old. Actor's age is mature. I said, I said, I'm different. Show-shah and glam only. A star for a time frame is made. In this time frame, I have to do this. It's so successful. But an actor is also... Look, Amitabh Bachchan is a mess. Dilip Kumar is a mess. Do you remember the stars? You don't want to even remember them. Sometimes it happens. Getting up here is a regular phase.

59:12Every artist has the sound of his career inrato maker. Lata ji are a little formed artist who was never done in this career. They singers never told theirstrings. At first, there was no question. There was the best difference. This is an old class. and each must choose from an actor drop this way He will not be different. Still he will be remembered. I don't want to say anything to me. But if you are just giving your attention to stardom, then you will be given a little attention here. and you have not learned acting from a lot of people. We learned from a lot of people. We learned on job training.

1:00:07On job training. No, no, no. So you were clear that I want to become an actor, I don't want to become a star. Yes, yes. And I learned acting as I learned. Yes, yes. People will see it. And you said that from the Arjun film, from my first shot itself, people told me I'm terrific actor any other actor in my place would have cashed in on this what do you mean by that? I mean, I'm still I'm still I'm still I'll go that was the time of press the time of Star Dust documentary film, then do this, do that, do that do that, do that, do that I didn't have to do that I probably didn't have to do that because I was in theatre was a theater.

1:00:55The artist's role is different in the theater. What's happening? They don't care. Why? No, you're right. We're acting, we know what our culture is. We don't want to kind of cow down to anybody. So you get this strength, the grounding from there? Yes, yes. That we're acting. It's not that arrogance, it's not rude, it's not obnoxious. not become a place. But they know that they are not insecure. But isn't sometimes people would see this as arrogance? No. People's problem is. We don't think you're arrogant. So we do our work. Yeah. And today's theater is the place of the place? Yes, yes, yes. Now AI has come, now the theater will increase.

1:01:46Now live art will increase. Life is coming. Life is coming. Now, experience people. Yes, yes, yes. Now, people are going to run, but not here. Plus, now the discovery is easy. That, in the book my show and app, that there are so many theatre plays in this place. Yeah, yeah. So, you can choose to go first. Before, you didn't know everyone else until you didn't have that group. No, that's not. First, when you tell Gujaji theater, there are two newspapers. Mumbai Samachar and Janma Bhumbi. That's the ad. They know you open the archive, this is where it is. And for Hindi, there are so many newspapers in the Now Barat Times and Times of India and all that.

1:02:34So, there are also some people. Now, what's happened? Because I booked my show, which is a very good thing, so, for them, I think it's correct. It's a format where the news came. So, you can book your show or tickets and all that. What's difficult theater movies? Theater. Why? Because whatever there is in front of you, or also like the theater movie, then the director will save you. No, no, okay. It's fine, no. If you want to go into the Kelly's reaction, then people know what you want. In the theater, we cannot save you. Stark, naked.

1:03:12And the theater does it because it's easy to put movies. or is it more difficult? No, it's not. The movie is also difficult. You have given a shot. Now, the second shot will come after three hours. The lighting is happening, after three hours you have to come and again hit the same note. What will you do? How will you do it? That kind of concentration. That's the end of your life. Or leave the light. In neurology, like a fine nail, you stitch a fine nail. That's a problem. That requires tremendous concentration. There are very few actors. Naseer bhai is a glaring example, theater and film. Some people pick up.

1:04:09do it. You are also very killer. You do that. People talk like this about you. But that is why film is because I am in the theater and I am in the Shaiyan Shah, there is also a lot of strength in the film.

1:04:31But how do you enjoy movies in the theater? I enjoy both of them, but I enjoy a lot of theater. The theatre is done, so it's like it's home and it's fun. And the other thing is that it's an immediate approval and rejection. And you come to know that the play is going, or not, the same thing in the song, the tempo is going, the performance is going well. You come to know everything.

1:05:16Everything.

1:05:31of reaction. Yes, it will come. And the other thing is fascinating is that, so there are thousand people in the auditorium, you perform for only one person. Understand? You have seen the curtain, in every theater there are holes in the wing, small. From there, they can see the audience. Okay, who is it? Okay, the king comes. Okay, okay. Then, in my mind, the audience is the right. The rest of the 999, there's noise. So you perform for one play. Naseer bhai, Naseer bhai, the play is happening. And there is a nice line also. In comedy, you look at it. In tragedy, you participate.

1:06:21Which line is it? Very great. Wow. Very apt. Apt. Apt. Exact. And this, So all these things, acting, theatre, all these experiences on the job, you should go to school, to NSD. I had to go to NSD, but I didn't know that NSD was a good idea. So Naseer, Om Ji, etc. What is NSD? The National School of Drama, the school is also there. Our point is, the theatre was the Marathi Theatre, Great Marathi Theatre, Gujarati Theatre, Stolwarts, Hindi Theatre. We were there.

1:07:03And how was that tenure? I was disappointed.

1:07:18There are some leftist people. They are all involved in the government. You are giving everything to the government. You have to live for 3 ,5 years. You have to eat food, you have to give money. You don't have to give money on the above. You have to give everything to the government. You have to provide everything. You have to give 400 suits. You will give 400 suits. Sikhe Degi. Manne, Joe requirement. Joe chahiye, Joe chahiye. Uske baad Aapko wo ne kerna Aapko manne Strike kerni hai. Toh jantarmentar Thoori hai, Toh NSD hai, Jantarmentar bhejao. Or joh log Aapko bol raha hai Karne kerie. They are not going To provide you, They are not going To help you, They are not going To make a production For you, Whereby you can Display your talent.

1:08:21O toh ho ga nahi. O toh mazhe lere hai, Masti se, and some people think about it. They get brainwashed. They get stuck. Do your work here, man. Do your work. Then you go to Mumbai. You don't have any advantage. They get stuck in other things. This is a sad thing. How did you manage that? Because you protested. I was chairman. But it happened two times, in my time. So how did you manage that situation? He said, what? We also know that it's the end. We'll get into it. He's going to be able to satisfy his ego. We called him to the chairman. He went to the chairman to Mumbai. Because a student told me, I'm in the food.

1:09:10I've never eaten. I said, you've never eaten. You don't see your face like this. But don't eat any more. So it's true. It's not good. I can give a lot of good answers. I can give a lot of good answers. But now a student is. What would they say? We've always had such a thing. We've always come to the house. But you should understand that what you do is work for you. What you do is work for you. I have to leave my parents, family, friends, friends, and leave everything to me. I have to get this. I have to get this. You should have to get this. You should have to take advantage of both hands. That's not the case.

1:09:57This is the fact that you left me? No, my tenure is finished. You can't become one tenure? No. No, it's not. It's not. If I will make it back, I will give me an executive power. So, what do the chairman have? Only, you can't change. But, it's a great, very, very, very. The bureaucracy has been great. The building of the house was not supposed to be talking. In the National School of Drama, bureaucracy? Yes, sir. What was the issue? Why? Isn't it an acting? Power. That ultimate greed. Power. Why not? We should have to do it. And there are so many people there. A student is so hugely talented. And they are still alive.

1:10:54What are they doing? There are great teachers. Some are very good. But even they can't do a thing. A damn thing. They can't move away. Do you think the same power, same lobbying, same, it's all in every place? Yes, but it's cemented from the years. Now, they have to approach them slowly. People are also getting into the understanding of this. But now, they can't get any more. You said it's in awards. I don't know about it. You said it's in national awards. Yes, it's in national awards. It will be. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. There's a little bit. There's no more than the other awards.

1:11:42The other awards are fine. I don't know. The national awards is reputed. Do you not have lobbying? Yes. What kind of thing? Lobbying is also in Oscar awards. How? What? Yes. The Raja's picture is right. The number of members of the academy, everyone gets whipped up, gives parties, and goes back, and goes back, and goes back, and goes back. That's it. That's it. The lobbying is the same. Exactly. Party, gift. Yes, same thing. I will do your work, my work. Yes, yes, yes. Pro bono. Pro bono. It happened in Oscar? Is there in Oscar? Yes, yes, yes. There are big companies. In India, in NST? Have you participated?

1:12:33No. Do you have the admiration or desire that I won the award? The award itself is an acknowledgement by the fraternity. But who represents the fraternity? The director. When the director says cut, when the writer says he is happy with my work, my award is received. There my drive, my urge, everything stops. I don't want to look beyond that because as much as my director and as much as my writer and when he endorsed he said that's better, it's done and there are a lot of people who I believe who I believe if they do it what's the matter, it's a struggle now politicians take time do you think that being a politician gives you so much power?

1:13:28yes what power comes I'm asking that in that position do you think actually that you can change things or not it's all a game and then you just have to play the game of course you can change as an individual as an individual and you have to toe the party line because you are in the people's tantra I want to do it alone so I want to this will happen

1:14:03What are the limitations of a politician? You have to go with everyone. You don't do it. There's a lot of diplomacy. Diplomatics. Everyone has their own thoughts, which they need. And everyone brings them all on one page and then motivate them. and pursue that matter very very difficult very time consuming and then it will end then it will end then it will end but tell me a very naive question basic like not asking from a podcast point of view basic citizen point of view technically everyone who are elected who are the position Lok Sabha Raj Sabha MLA her position good we are all as a whole person.

1:14:56He is very selfish. Technically, if he is new, it's very important. It's not. It's the next time. So, there is some sense that I have to do a little work and change it. And everybody wants the same thing. A little progress, a little work, a little work. Someone's good, someone's good, but someone's good. You need something. Money can make it. Then why don't people are able to change things and why do you have to convince everyone? What is the motive? Why do you think all of them? No, all think. That the country is not going to grow? Yes, all think. All of them think about the country's growth.

1:15:34All of them think about the country's growth. All of them think about the country's growth.

1:15:44Why does it not happen? Why does it not happen so fast? When I was an MP, I would think that I was an MP. So I have an oath. It is an oath. I need to sign an affidavit. That if I have promised what I have, I will not fulfill it. I will not stand up in any way. I need to sign an affidavit. So accountability becomes. Then I am committed. Then people also know that this guy is committed. I said, now, Mr. Kishore said, I will put the gunner in jail to the jail. If it doesn't happen, I will give it to the power. I asked, Mr. Kishore, if we come to power, if we talk to the power of the power of the power, will they let go of power?

1:16:41This is all the power. I am saying, no sir, you can't go. You can't go. This is the same thing. You have given an affidavit in the courts, you will not come back. You will not come back. You will not come back. The family will not come back. But it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. I am asking you, but you think that many politicians will think that Why do you do so much work? Like you have a basic exam. I want to go to Metro tomorrow. We will all want to be made. There is a nice line. We all want to vote for a good man, but he is never a candidate.

1:17:28We all want to vote for a good man, but he is never a candidate. So you believe all the candidates are not good people? No, but everyone is good.

1:17:38No, it's very difficult. It means that if you can't become fascists, dictators, you can't become become. Because this is Hindustan. But why are people not able to bring change? Is there a question? As an MP, if… Change is coming slowly, slowly. That is happening. But this is the speed. If you try to do it over, it gets a lot worse. I'll tell you one example. What is worse? That's what you want to hear. No, then people, what a faction is, bro, someone will come from there, someone will come from there, someone will come from fascists, someone will come from the RSS, someone will come from this, someone will come from the Muslim, how many people are here?

1:18:14Give me an example, just like when you are MPs, when you are in trouble, what do you think? What is the problem that you think, is that someone hurt you? I will tell you quickly. No, to take everyone together, now to understand. You can't do directly? No, no, no, no, no, no. I was thinking this too, I was thinking, in all honesty, but I was thinking, I am Amdabad East's MP. So, Amdabad is the whole area of its municipality, because that deals with the day-to-day life of the citizen. And the rest of the education, hygiene, I can take a decision directly to how much power I have. It's not going to anybody.

1:19:02So, the subha, the subha, the subha, the subha, you are the owner of that. The other foreign policy, you have to take it into it. So, I have to be able to do it. I have to be MP. I have no municipality, no city, anything. And if I don't deliver, then I will put me in jail. But they said that it's not possible. They understood that it's not possible. It's a good idea on a thought level. It's also a good idea. But it's a good idea. But it's a good idea. I'm going to make it. I have to do good work. So, I have to do it. It doesn't happen. Is that the reason you dropped? No, no, I dropped because I'm not cut out for that.

1:19:55What do you mean, man? Look, I have a piece of work. I'm not a politician. And I don't have to make a political career. I went to only and only one function and one thing. I want to support you. How can I support you? I can do it. I have done it for my life for five years. I also got a job. I got a job. I got a job that is a very good job. It's a very good job if you can do it. It's a very good job. But you have to get up completely. Then I sit there and think that I want to go to the shooting or show a drama. That is not allowed. One thing is also that Yogi Ji's picture in the dialogue that the government is the right and the government is the right.

1:20:54That is correct. But if you have to work, you will be able to connect with any big party. You will go alone, it is not possible. You will not be able to do the same thing. You said, you won't do it alone. You stand on your door, a newspaper and watch it. I thought, my father was going to read newspapers and all that. So, we put our door, and we kept all newspapers there. Everyone was free of charge, every day. So, it happened, 12 days, I can't name people. People say, hey, Parishwai, then write our name, sponsored by this. I said, no one's name. We didn't write my father's name. I was reading the newspaper, my friends, who are the older people.

1:21:47No, no, no, just write it. Write it. Then the other party came. I said, hey, let me write it. My brother told me that we don't have to write any name. We don't have to write it, we don't have to do it. We have to do it. If you want to alone, you won't have to do it. The help of party is necessary. Some party is very good. I have to take the name of BJB, because the order is so disciplined. What is that discipline? Discipline is totally, I mean, one thing you have given, he has've made a good job he kept bringing - you sameapter right whom sean

1:23:04right have you ever asked power feel powerful power everywhere you think now I'm1000 talking do

1:23:24to Dubai Delhi. So I came to the airport. I told you, I had a flight at the airport at 10 o 'clock. And now, you have a boarding. I like to reach the airport at 8 o 'clock. What happens is that the traffic is so irritating. If you don't understand, you will get out of time. And the other thing, I said, once I go there, I have a cup of coffee, settle down mentally, get ready for my travel. I arrived, a man of a board, a porter, a girl and a party. Sorry, five people. I said, what happened? Let's go, let's go. I have a bag with a wheel. I said, what's on the wheel? What will you do? It's going on its own.

1:24:17I was like, don't do this, I can understand. But don't do this pamper. After five years, I will not stand up, you will get a lot of memories. You are pamper. Why do you have to do this? We have to do it from the airline. Don't do this. Don't do this. Don't do this. Don't do this. But it happens. People do it. I think that Modi had a great conversation. First, there was a meeting on Tuesday, on the morning of the morning, before the parliament starts. So, the first meeting was the BJP MP. Modi said, look, there are many new MPs, first-timer. I want to tell you two things. You will get to Delhi railway station, airport, You will get to the airport, you will get to the station station.

1:25:15You will get your bags, you will open the car, many people will get away from them. Because when you want to get away from them, you will not get away from them. You will get away from them. It's a bad habit. You will not get away from them. You will never get away from them.

1:25:41Screw And The Other Itges.

1:25:55She's professional. I don't think you have a broad guess. But there is no provision in the budget. You won't do it. Then the media will go, you have to take the broad guess. Don't do it. The spokesperson of the party will do it. And if you have to make the broad guess, you will have to do the press conference. That day, you will do it. But you will do it for the spokesperson of the party. It was so good. true so why do you know all these things you don't know but many people understand this many people do only for power what you have said yes yes yes yes yes yes yes you have also said a line that power doesn't corrupt people people corrupt power absolute power corrupts absolutely how corrupts you tell me give me you go to hell you think I can do something and then you can do something and then you can do something you think I can do something my heart is right my right is I have a born you are a servant in the other day I have spoken about the name of Modi, but for example, when he said that I am a personal servant.

1:27:26Nice. These are all the things. Have you seen that people, who made MPs first, have become MPs, and after that, they changed how they changed? After that? They changed how they changed. Two or three years ago, they became MPs, and then they changed? Yes, but it is wrong. You've seen?

1:28:16You sit in Delhi and you sit in Delhi.

1:28:21Why did you not sit here? No. I was a little bit surprised. I said, who are these people? They do so much for me. I know as an actor. What else is my experience? I got a ticket for him. And I said, this is a carder. What do they do? Why do they do it? No, they know that our leader is going to go there. He will do the best of our area. They do the same.

1:28:51The Gujrat's carder is different from his friends. What? No money behind him. No. So, he is his own man. Why did you not spend so many things? I know, it's a wrong thing. I should not be able to sit here. Today, you are clear. Clear, absolutely clear. You didn't have a bungalow. No, I didn't have a bungalow. Why? Because I live here in the flat. My bungalow's mental, my ability to do it. And the other thing is, what do you do? What happens in our greenery, horticulturalist, garden, cup, the round of mac and then nothing is wrong. Then Ibarka God has the chance to racism in history, God wants an escape from the land.

1:29:50So when they are in the land, one has always seen it, you have seen that many people and you need to put a wood on it. So I will dont get there?

1:30:30You should know that working show then. So, we've all closed. I've come to Central Vista now. And you've also said that you don't have to say anything. You don't have to say anything. Yes. And it's going to happen. I'm saying, you go and then you'll stand up in the airport. Take a seat and take a seat and take a seat. You'll open it, you'll open it. You're so small, you're on the wheel. What do you do? I'll keep it. But it's true. I don't know. Do you feel any kind of attitude? Forget politics. Over the years, where you came from, you came from, you came from, you came from, you came from, you came from.

1:31:12No attitude. God is. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. I don't have a habit. I don't have a habit. It's a fact. That's how it should happen. It's a habit of having a habit. No, I don't do this. But you don't do it, it's a habit of having a habit. I'm like that. That's not a habit. But it's a habit of having a habit. No, I don't think I have a little feeling. Some should do the work. I should do the work. My work is acting. My work is to be a good country. My work is to be a good country.

1:31:59is my last segment. Last thing. It's like a type of picture. It's been a lot of work. No, it's not. It's running. It's turning. It's a showdown. It will be 50 showdown. It's a showdown. It's a type casting scene. It's not. It's not. It's not a lot of money. Because we also have to make it. Unless, of course, as I said, it's money. It's a lot of money. What's the franchise? What's the sequel? It's a sequel. It's a sequel. Do it, do it. Same exact thing. You can make money a lot. If you make a sequel, I'll get more money. Do you think, like you were playing the first movies, you were playing jokes, like comedy, you can do that today, that people will be offended?

1:32:47happen.

1:33:16No one is talking about faith, not about facts, about history, about fiction. But someone says, no, no, no, no. They all have to do something, do something, take them to a grant. First, look at the picture. What made you choose the film? Because the script, which was researched and the jingoism was not. It was not a Hindu-Muslim thing. I felt very good. It was normally that such material can go anywhere. If you deviate so much, it will be gone. That was not it. But what made you believe in this? In the research? In the research, because it's not the case. I read all the papers in primary source.

1:33:59I met another one. I met Dr. Sudhaanshu Trivedi Ji. I also had a great deal with him. begged should give it were. We asked him to ask him, and he didn't see four, and he didn't have four. He came here, and another person, Aabas Maldiyah, you'll probably hear his name. You'll also call them, you'll get a lot of fun. You'll get a lot of fun. Okay, I'm not a student of history, but I'm fascinated. My big son is a history buff. of a R-Ovat benda. The world knows this. He still talks about it. So, what happened? I met very first in 2014-2015. So, someone claimed that when the Mughal died, the GDP of India was very high.

1:34:58It was very good. So, what I proved to be with facts and figures, with primary source to my 50 ,000 rupees ka inam declare kerta ho aap aayye dikhayye my merer paper laata ho baitke dikhayte kisi tisre aadmi ko or jo pachas aajar leke jayye so much so ki o pachas aajar ki joh inam ta o 7.8 crore tak pahunch gaya aur koji claim karne nahi aaya at to aise historian hai unko mahi nai pouchha unman mahi mahi mahi madad chahiye because we don't have to do bad work. We don't have to do sensationalism. Because for Hindu-Muslims, there is a little bit of a need for it. If anyone can say something, that Hindu-Muslims will be going.

1:35:48There is no need for it. But we are taking a right word, talking about it, so that's why we have to do it. Then he said, okay, your research is good. Then how many people, like Minakshi Jain Ji, who is a member of the Raja Sabah, Dr. Anand Rangnathan Ji, I was not studying the same time until I was not studying, I was not staying at all, but I didn't have a little food. When I studied it, all of them were clear. It was called Babar, there are two volumes in Babar. He was studying it. People have come to research, it's not a hanky-panky. And their purpose is to not put on fire. So, these were all the things that were all.

1:36:36Let's do this. It's fun to do this. But again, I think that the feeling of this was kept. There was a dialogue that I said, that the promotion of the Pramo Amin released, that people want to do Hindu Muslims, but this is a problem. This is a problem. It's a problem. It's not a problem. But, here, let's go. up. So, sometimes the first primafacy thought audience will feel that majority of people that then a particular thought process or a particular religion. If they feel that, then come on challenge to it. So, you don't think that people ask you that, brother, why are you doing that? say that. I also say that.

1:37:25But they don't know my body of work, which is It's not kind of, you know, we, it's not driven. My body of work, oh my God, I question Hindu faith. My body of work, I'm in Dharam Sankat. My body of work, I'm in Road to Sangam. My body of work, I'm in Firak. Firak, the Gujarat that happened, the two people were doing this role. So, for me, this is a matter of fact. I'm with you, but you say that my agenda is. I'm not saying that. The people who have made this picture, I've made a better film from Gujarat Rights, I also ask them, that you've also made a film on the Ghotra. You're not really biased.

1:38:16If you want to keep both sides together, we'll also work. If you make this, we'll be standing standing by the way. mechan to be able to stay with someone sitting in the vix politically. From the basis of microcoops on, I had the role of mentoring after the Blacking Role. Because I said my ideology preferences orlaming or blaning physically as well. However, I did that to work in Dharm severeanting. I did fire staying at the government. I also created a space for questions, who have been asked. In depth of risk, this is only 59 %wheeling, but someizhas The problem is not getting hurt. The people will say they will.

1:38:56I will not be able to say that. But if I'm going to listen to it, I will listen to it. 100 % listen to it. You are okay that if you have a movie, and you have a fact that you can't get out of it, and you can prove it wrong. I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. Where will we go? Where will we go? You are okay that if you have a wrong proof. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Why? I believe it wrong. was research right and Tushar the director was research he had so research I said I have been 6 months how did they convince how did they do with the script and then you have asked what was your first fear this movie it should not be wrong.

1:39:53This is scientific. to oneself could practice. Two people may know of each a month, but it fizer sound like that. Just guessing, what shall I get? What is your will in Einsatzistic than Hindus and Muslims make it sweepstakes Jam Hispanics, anyone who feels the claim something is there. It's not that you do it. But see. What is it afraid that maybe something is wrong, a fight starts? Nothing. People are screaming. Hindu Muslims are getting hurt. They are getting hurt. Yes. It's done to death. But when your poster came... But what was the poster in the poster? I asked him, why did he do it? Because the tagline was what was the first thing.

1:40:55We will not open, but we will open. People dig, they will not open. He said, no, Parish, why did he come out? Why did he come out? He said, the manhata, еп damit

1:41:36In order to maintain their budget, what will they do? But they are not in the picture. That's why we can raise it.

1:41:49There is no scene in the movie? There is no idea. Are you excited for the movie? I am excited because when it happened, I thought, what will they say? Which movie is the best scene? which is very strong. I don't know whether it's been a censor or not. What was it before? Two ends. Which I got the idea from Ketan Matar Bhavani Bhavai. Bhavani Bhavai film was two ends. One is that it's like this. Then the whole character tells you, you think it's done, it's a right end, it's a filmy end. The right end is this. And then they show the real end. That is a device. So, the government, the government, the government, the government says, okay, do carbon dating.

1:42:53People say, what is this? They do it, they come to the house, so my character says, what do you think? This is a filmy ending. It is a right ending. It is not a carbon rating. This was. I can reveal that in the sensor, I think it has not been kept. It has not been kept.

1:43:19It is much better. much better because you have everything you have everything and everything and everything it is his call it is their call and what happens in some picture what happens now Raj that you can't give a solution the problem is as it is keep on the people what does their sense of their what does their sense of their they will decide what should end end. They say that you can't do it.

1:43:57How they think judiciously, they will do their own end. Let them be judge and jury. It's up to them at the end of the day. Well, all the best for the movie. Thank you. Thank you. But thank you so much for doing this. Thank you, sir. How much time has been? What do you know? It's 7 hours. Thank you. Sir, thank you so much. If you want to give me a piece of advice that how do I better it? What should I do better so that I can become a better podcast? This podcast thing? I think this is just and fair and apt. Really. I will not tell you or I will not advise you that you... In fact, your tone is so soothing people like to open I'll just give you an example like Nilesh Mishra then they pause you feel like speaking more telling more you know and some people who do bombardment some people who do who knows how much they know, they want to show you.

1:45:18And you are not that. That is, thank you for that. Your tone is very soothing. People feel it easier. I say, I say, like a psychiatrist that comes in a soothing tone. Hush tone, almost. I don't see anything change. You should not change. And don't, I know, hopefully, I mean, please don't kind of stuff it up with photographs and all that. You don't know, this is coming, this is coming, this is coming, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming, it's coming. This is the level. Let people imagine. So, they keep their involvement. Until they don't imagine, they are away. That is why theatre's fun is that I am sitting and sitting and I am sitting and I am sitting behind, people will say, I am.

1:46:19I need a camera in a film, right? Someone said it was good. In the state, I will say, I will give this light and people will say, it is light. And everyone will show their own light.

1:46:32So, that is the power. That is very good. to imagine people. Yeah. So keep at it. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much. Hey Rosh. Hi. How's it going? Finally. Exactly.

1:46:55How's it going? Not good. I'll be wearing the Vicarajan from the cataract thing. Oh, man. I'm sorry. Yes.

1:47:14You are from NM?

1:47:34No, I am from Mitiwai.

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