Protecting the President: Security, VIP Threats & ADC Life | Major Rishabh | FO560 Raj Shamani

49:44We keep a track. The moment he or she realizes that are they being manipulated? Because manipulation is there are some people, good people who can manipulate young people. We don't want to be ending up in a situation of getting shame for the individual for the president of India and for the association or the organization we have so it's a big long process yes it has happened with me and I've cut off that's my easy way I don't know I don't reply to them I don't speak to them but directly somebody is not trying to bribe you no everyone is afraid because they don't know I do it or not the best part is that I'm young I have aim I have goals and aspirations and I have moral values but they don't know that yet right but they are scared uniformed people because this position this place is way too big yeah which is true the moment they are also anyone I would say I don't know who but if if I put me in the opposite position I would be very scared everyone would be very scared everyone would be scared you can't trust a younger like how what moral ethical values he or she holds the moment i go out and say oh this guy came up and did this his entire career is lost fair and i'm at such a position where i can tell anything and it will be accepted i have that and young people motivated young people who are working with a name they will not you know like accept all these things true they'll and they will also to set an example.

51:22Yes. Make sure that you get ruined so that other people are not approached by you. So, we have a personal life also. And the time I told you, we get a very limited time for ourselves, for our families. When someone tries to do that and we get to know that we are being played upon, we teach them a lesson. We need to. This had to be stopped. This has to be stopped. I am of the firm opinion. This has to be stopped. I don't appreciate it. Any ADC survey or who has served has never appreciated it and will not do it ahead do you do you in your personal life do you look at other people friends and probably potential partner with distrust that maybe the girl who's trying to probably talk to you become your friends you don't know what ulterior motive do you see do you look at everyone with distrust personally I'm telling you my personal opinion I see everyone with distrust until I gain that confidence and trust I always have that one day the person who is sitting in front of me will backstab me now I am prepared for the contingency I don't have expectations you show me your colors I am prepared because my mind has already accepted that you are going to be there I am going to be betrayed so now I plan my things accordingly other than my parents and my childhood friends whom I've known for a while people who I meet new I don't trust them I do not trust them even if they commit and promise me anything I don't I always know that one day they're gonna go back and do something which will bring shame for me I'm prepared for that so I will play along let them show their colors and then is it a bad way to live no it's not a bad way paranoid in your head that okay maybe your partner your girlfriend your wife your husband your boyfriend whoever can turn out to be girlfriend boyfriend husband you've spent a time and gained that confidence you spent in the beginning in the beginning yes of course until you gain that trust but I'll always be looking upon them with the fishy eyes what is the reason yes of course that I think I would say that is how my mindset have been built by the army always be alert always be prepared for the contingencies always be ready that things go will go bad if you are ready for things will go bad so you don't have expectations and you are prepared okay if it's wrong I will do this I am prepared do you do background checks on anyone who try to come close to you now yes if I was talking to you right now I do that so you must have done a background check on me I have read about you a lot and then asked couple of friends who know me you are a good man man I trust you so yes of course i read about you i spoke to people i tried to find out and i tried to read about you i saw i saw most of you i think in the last two three days i've seen your 10 or some podcasts imagine at least it goes for an hour more than an hour i've spent 10 hours on you watching you so i analyze that is my natural instinct the organization the training the things happened in life have taught me this.

54:46Which is, man, it must be very stressful to live like that. I live, okay, it's a very different work. So I can't even compare, but I'm telling you as a human being, I trust people and I upfront trust people. I love, in fact, if someone does something wrong, I'm like, okay, out of a thousand people, this person is bad. others are right like in my head i'm like that person so i can't imagine how you live like how you used to be like that before easy to trust but then you know uh the organization the training teaches you not to trust blindly but you have to trust but have you been betrayed no i don't think okay not yet i don't want to be betrayed but not right but this has become your normal way of operating that is my normal way of operating tell me what when you when you meet president right there's a protocol for other people to meet as well yes i've seen that ceremony where they give the president award right everybody comes in a certain way they practice in a certain way they bow down then they receive why is that important Thank you.

56:00It's ceremonial. Like everything is very ceremonial. Yes, it is ceremonial because there has to be a procedure to that. If we don't, okay. So for example, I'll give you a contradicting question. Contradicting example to this. If I don't tell them how to do, someone will come and directly come up to the prison. So you know, you would have seen the award ceremonies which are conducted in Rashtupati. There's a procedure. They rise from the chair, go to the center, stand there. they wish the president and then they come up take the award right if I don't make them do in a particular way anyone would just there will be a chaos somebody would be coming directly they will rise from the chair move up to the president and snatch it from the president you don't want that because the entire country and in fact people outside are also watching you don't want to bring shame no so what is the protocol like what do you teach them so we let's say I am coming to meet the president and presidents are going to give me an award.

57:02What will you tell them? What is the protocol? Okay, so if you're coming to take an award, so there will be an award ceremony which is conducted inside the Rashtrapati Bhavan, like the civil defense, civil investor ceremony and the defense investor ceremonies they're conducted. So, for example, if you've come and you've come to take an award, I will first show you your place to sit. There's a specific place where the awardees sit and in front the audience sits. the family members of the award is then i'll tell you once your name is announced you will rise from your chair come in the center of the hall and face the president because now you have to receive the award from the president of india while you're standing there your citation will be read what have you done why are you getting this award it will be read on the live television so that anyone who's watching or sitting knows what you have done once your citation is read then you will walk up to the president and receive the award now while you're receiving the award you look either to left or right because the media is standing there we need to get a picture done so you and the president will look towards one side where the media is there so that we can have a picture once you receive it you just say thank you it's a normal courtesy there's no we'd never tell anyone to bow there's no courtesy this this has never been a tradition i think and this i I never did it and never will happen ahead.

58:25Because we always tell to say thank you. It's a normal human gesture. But everyone bows. It's a, you know, like in India, when you do namaste, you bow like this. Okay, it's a respect. It's a respect to show it to your elders. And because two people are doing, then everybody is like, okay, that's maybe the right way to do it. And that's why everybody follows. But then it depends upon the, you know, like the community, their own cultural tribes. Some people bow a lot or bend a lot. So it seems like they are bowing to the prison, but there is no need to bow. But yes, of course, you would greet the president.

58:57It's a normal courtesy as you would greet your elders at your home. You always do namaste with the head slightly bent because they are your elders. It's the same. Now, the way of doing differs from individual to individual and then it is perceived as like they are bowing. We are not doing the bowing thing. And then how do they go out then? Okay, so you have received the award. you would just take one step back say thank you to the president for giving me this award you turn around and go towards your seat and you sit down that is how if 10 people are getting awards that is how the 10 people would be getting their awards and then they keep sitting until the president leaves or can they walk out no they can't walk out because your fellow awardees are yet to be given awards you can't it will be disrespect everyone is sitting there with equal level of respect that is why they are awarded on national level so for example if we both are sitting there you receive an award and i'm sitting there and i'm yet to receive an award how bad it will be yeah it would be bad but i'm just asking like is there a protocol or is there a rule that people can't walk out they can't if there's an emergency yes of course they can if anything so it's not a rule it's just an unsaid unsaid we tell them okay you tell them we tell them if there's an emergency someone might feel bad health wise or anything is there you may rise and go behind the chairs but there's no need to do that unless it's emergency because everyone of the government of india senior official dignitaries and your fellow are sitting there you won't do that to your own fellow people you don't want to disrespect everyone because you've earned it everyone there has earned it it's a respect we show it to everyone that is why we tell them please be seated until the president leaves you can't leave the premises and then come back in.

1:00:44Okay, you will leave and then leave. Like you can't come in. I said the premises. So you're sitting in a hall. The hall will have washrooms aside but you can't leave the building and then go out. But you can go to the washroom and come back in. Yes, of course. That's a normal norm. We have eyes. Security eyes are there. We're looking at everyone. That is the main and the good job of the security personnel. They look at each and each. So that's not a rule. That's not a rule. No, that's not a rule. Is there like do you announce something before the president comes yes the honorable president of india what do you announce like just i just is there a formal announcement what exact words do you announce we announce ladies and gentlemen the honorable president of india is your yes that's it the moment she's about to enter as of now the moment the president of india is about to enter the hall or the room and people are sitting there we announce ladies and gentlemen the president.

1:01:38So as a courtesy people rise and everybody stands and say namaste. They do namaste. It's a courtesy they extend. We don't tell them there's no compulsion you don't want to stand so you don't you have to stand. There's no compulsion. Okay if somebody doesn't stand it's okay. But people are not so you know like No there's some country head can show this as a power move that I don't stand. They can. They've done this right. Our country people have also done that. Other people have also done that. It's normal, natural. It is no... You can't rise for anyone. If you don't rise, what can I do? I can't ask you to leave.

1:02:14It's your personal choice. If you want to disrespect, you will be looked upon as a disrespectful human being. You wouldn't want to do that until you have something against the human being. That can also be a fame-gaining opportunity for some... To get eyes on yourself. Of course. That's like a lot of people would. That is just we announced, ladies and gentlemen, the Honorable President of India. And as we announced, The ending part, the president enters the hall. And who checks? Like, is it you who will check the car that president will be sitting in or the hall she will enter? Or is it the security people who will tell you and you trust them that they've checked?

1:02:53So the checking is done by the security personnel. It is their responsibility. Each and everything, they go into detail. I, on the other hand, I am planning and tying up the protocol part. The flow of the event. how and what will the president do what all you will do i will just brief them while i'm doing this the security is working their part so you just assume that the security must have done the good job so they do it and they give us okay now it is ready once we take an okay from them all okay then we inform the president that mom everything is ready we can go who checks the car before she sits in because there'll be different cars or she there's only one car she sits in all the time we have two cars one spare car and one main car for the president dedicatedly we have two two cars as of now so the car we is uh there's a garage superintendent who's responsible for the maintenance of the car the cars have to be in the running condition so the number one car the main car comes it stands outside the main building from where the president will sit in the car once the car is there the security personnel check first they check it they give us okay that there There's no threat in this car.

1:04:03Then we go inside. Before we conduct the prison, we go have a look in the car that things are organized. Things are kept as per her requirements. And if there anything is wrong, that is the final check we do in the car. And then we conduct the car, president of the car. But in other states, other cities, the same car goes? No. So the car which is in Delhi, we can't take that car to say, for example, Kerala. So because the president is the state head, the security, the welcome, the travel, everything is the responsibility of the individual state. So for example, we flew from Delhi to Bombay. So now the president is the guest of the state of Maharashtra.

1:04:46So it is the responsibility of the government of Maharashtra to provide a car for the president. Got it. And the security and everything is done by the state of Maharashtra, government of Maharashtra. they are responsible for that anything goes wrong the union or the central government will take the government of Maharashtra responsible for it we do the liaisoning part but the security agencies are doing their own part but you will give your technical radar that these are the things that we want in the car and this is it and do you do the last inspection or you just trust the head of police of Maharashtra who would just tell you we trust the security agencies if we are travelling outside of Delhi we trust the security agencies countries they are doing their job perfectly fine like how in us they have one car or maybe multiple versions of the same car but that cars go everywhere yes like even if they come to do different country it is particular country to country choice we don't do we don't do that we we don't even take our cars to other countries we don't for prime minister no uh for prime minister i'm not sure i'm not aware of that but for the president we don't take the car the president goes as the guest of the country see we went to the Portugal we went to New Zealand we went to Fiji or whatsoever we are going we are the guest being hosted by the yeah so responsibility of the president of India becomes that of the hosting country they are responsible if anything goes wrong with our president they will be held accountable for that got it and what's fascinating to me when i look at you right every time you're just right next to the president is the uniform like there are so many elements on the uniform i want to understand what that uniform is i want to pick up each every piece and tell me what is that okay is that okay can i put this yes of course of course tell me why are there different colors in uniform there is colors yeah like there's white color then there's olive so okay uh in the military uniform you're talking about in your uniform also no like you i've seen you wearing the darker one and the lighter one both okay so the lighter one which is the white one which you can you see here white is used during the summers and the darker one blue is used during the winters okay these are the only two uniforms you have as an adc or you have other colors we have other colors like you see uh this one this color you're saying yeah this color this is olive green dark olive green this is the regular color of the summer uniform of Indian Ami it's half sleeves olive green olive green is because Ami works on ground ground grass that's why green okay so let's say this is this is dark blue this is no this is it's color it's coming up as blue but this is olive green it's olive dark olive green okay it's same same and same okay This is also the same.

1:07:441, 2, 3, 4 are all same. So you have white and this. We have, so this is regular walking dress. So now the one which I'm wearing here is a winter ceremonial dress. It's only worn on ceremonial occasions, national events. Like Republic Day. Republic Day parade or you would wear it while in a banquet in winters. So you would wear this. And the similar, there's a white one. Which the previous one you had a picture. I wear a white one in the similar attire. So that is during the summer. Summer ceremonial dress. And then full time you have to wear this. When can you wear this? This is not uniform. This is not uniform.

1:08:25I met the Honorable President a couple of days back. This I came in unofficial capacity. Got it. So every time you are on official duty, you have to wear uniform? You can't be in your... No, we can't be. So we generally put on, you know, like the track suits. when the president goes for a walk in the morning. So we walk, we go along with the duty ADC, walk along with the president. That time we do not put on uniform. We are in our tracksuits. Got it. And so on your uniform, what I can see, there are so many things. What does each of them signify? Like what's, where do we start? You choose. So we start from the head.

1:09:08Okay. Okay. So this is a peak up. This is worn only during the ceremonial occasions. In army also, the officers and even in the uniform, any uniform force, the officers put on a peak cap. So it is a headgear. It is mandatory to have. But being in the para, as you can see here, I'm wearing a maroon beret. It signifies the difference between a peak cap officer and a beret officer. It's a beret. So the para officer. What is the difference? So difference is it's only given to special people. We have done specialized training. It shows that we have the why is it maroon? I would want to tell you is because we have bled to get this.

1:09:52So maroon is for the blood color. We have given our blood earned it that is why we wear maroon. So this everybody would get. Every officer would get. Not every officer would get this. But the only difference now you see here is it is an Ashoka emblem. In the organization in the unit you will not have an Ashoka emblem here you will have the regimental symbol crest like in the beret I am wearing this silver color you can see the parachute wings the wings and the parachute this is the crest of the parachute regiment okay so if for example I am from Jat regiment example I was in Jat regiment so when I used to wear the Pika the crest of the Jat regiment was here instead of Ashoka emblem now I was serving the president of India she is the union head of India that is why Ashoka Ambala is here got it otherwise I would wear my regimental crust okay then now what's okay so this is the shoulder title you can see it's written para so it signifies the regiment which I belong to so when I was in JAT there was JAT written J-A-T written in capitals so now I'm in para and that is why the shoulder title says para And special forces.

1:11:10And special forces is an additional we get after clearing the probation. The probation to get selected in the parachute regiment, you have to go through a probation phase. Okay. So when you clear it, you get the maroon bere, which signifies you have given blood and that special forces tag. And above that, it's President, Staff, India. So we get it when we are selected as an ADC. and even the non-ADC you know like the people who are not the ADCs they also get it but people who belong to military and they are serving the president they get this president's staff India to put on the uniform only the military staff for the president will get this will get this and only when they are serving in the president presidential palace or the president's secretariat they can put it on until that time what's this?

1:11:58so this is Kamarbanth it's basically put on the waist it's a ceremonial thing otherwise I would put on a belt but since I am wearing a tunic, a patrol so it looks for a it holds the tunic and the trouser together it's decorative it doesn't signify it doesn't signify anything, it's just a kamar band part of decoration what's this? this is an aglet so this is given to the senior officers of the uniformed forces I would say even the police wears some sort of accolades the navy army everyone wears it now what is the difference between this accolades that I am putting it on my right shoulder everyone else other than the service chiefs they put it on left shoulder it's the seniority it's the responsibility lies on the heaviest on their shoulder so they put it on the right side we put it on the right side because we are serving with the president once i go back from this like i was posted out went back to my unit i was not authorized to wear the arklate because i was no more serving the honorable president you can't even wear it on left because you're not senior most officer i'm not the senior most officer so i can't wear it even on my left i was wearing it because i was serving the president of india and on to the right because she's the senior most and the biggest responsibility we have carry it's a privilege given to the adcs and what's this uh this you can see is other applets basically these are the ranks shoulders you can see there's a there's a thing which is placed on top on the both sides so this is uh the rank which we carry these are called applets these are put on both shoulders and they carry ranks it's a decorative thing but it signifies that these are the ranks but what's your rank it's major if you look at from the top it's just this sorry you see this golden color this is here but this emblem no this is emblem yes so all the major the rank in army it's major in air force it's squadron leader and in navy it's left in commander so all these officers for army it's ashoka for air force they are the stripes and for navy there are rings got it so i'm wearing the ashoka emblem on my shoulder but it's a threaded one this is a metallic one and what are the ranks above major like tell me from junior to the top so when we get commissioned now we get commissioned as a lieutenant okay uh then from lieutenant after two years of service and our promotional exams we become captain we another serve for three months sorry three years and then we become major from major we serve roughly around seven to eight years and then we become left and colonel we have to pass our tests courses gradings all that matters to get the next rank okay from left and colonel then we become a colonel from colonel we become a brigadier after brigadier is major general then left and journal and the senior most becomes a General.

1:15:15The Army General. The Army General. And who would be above Army General? Chief of Defense Services. Okay. And who would be above CDS? And then comes the Defense Ministry. CDS is the head of all three services in India. Army, Navy, Air Force. The head of all these services is the CDS. Then, you know, the juniors of the CDS are the three service chiefs. The Army Chief, the Navy Chief and the Air Force Chief. And then it comes. And the chief would be the General? Chief will be the General. yes of course in army it will be the general in air force it will be the chief of air staff and in navy yes so these are the and now what's this these are four different medals these are four different medals these are called the service medals so you basically get these medals when you are posted in a specific area for a specific duration of time i would just give you a bit like starting from the right to the left the right is the independence 75th year independence medal so we completed our 75th year everyone in the uniform got this medal was authorized to wear this medal nice this was given decided by the government of India okay after this onto the lift is the middle with the blue and the white but every major or every everyone with uniform even a soldier on ground will be able to okay these are service medals everyone gets it okay starting from a soldier a jawan to the senior most chiefs so the second is blue and white this is a high altitude medal it signifies that the individual has served in the high altitude region of the country this is a sanya seva medal and this is special service medal so they depend upon the area specific counter-insurgency insurgency areas or affected areas they are given there so these are the full medals as if i'm wearing it it signifies that I've I was there when the 75th year of independence I've served in the high altitude I've served in JNK and insurgency areas this signifies where I've served okay and it doesn't matter if you have excelled there or no if you are the top notch person there or no it doesn't matter everyone who has served it will get this if you have excelled there you get the commendations initially non-gallantry are the commendations okay like below these you see these two bhajas the red one is the commendation which I got from the vice chief of the Indian army.

1:17:42Okay. And the other one, this one, is the commendation by the chief of army staff. And why did you get it? This was given to me when we won the Republic Day Parade in 2021. This was awarded to me by the chief of army in the Rashtrapati world for my work which I've done here. Commendable work. Okay. You've done a good work. This is a commendation. For the president of India what you have done? Yes. Your service towards the President of India, whatever you've done, you've done a good job, you're commending. This also happens in the unit as well. If someone does a good work to appreciate their work, the commendation cards are awarded.

1:18:19Okay. And what was, you said you won Republic Day Parade. Yes. So, in 2021, January 2021, I was in the Republic Day Parade. I was leading the JAT Regimental Contingent. and there's a competition which goes on in all the marching contingents so we were the best marching contingent in the Republic because you were leading it that's why you got no so there were six contingents six officers leading six contingents the best one marching the best one marching so you and your unit was the best and you were leading your unit that's why yes of course yes that's the reason and who chooses this there's a committee which is sit seated there in the parade they there are different gradings categories they are divided the checks and balance and then one finalize they finalize it who has won the parade nice and what's this yes so this is the most quoted Balidan Baj you have to give your blood and your sweat and your sleepless nights for to earn this it's not what is Balidan Baj Balidhan badge is a symbol that you have given Balidhan of your soul you have now given what it takes to be the best you know you have given the Balidhan of your life towards the organization towards the cause so this I think in India we call it the Balidhan badge in different countries the specialized forces get different badges and the names are different okay in India it is Balidhan badge Why did you get it?

1:20:04So, you know, I was in the JART regiment. And to become a special forces operative, you have to undergo a probation phase. Okay. There's a documentary on it, you know, like Discovery, which had come up back in a couple of years ago, which, you know, tells you about the procedure of the probation. so for roughly around 90 days the individual say for example me i was put into a completely cut off world and stressful controlled stressful situations to assess my capabilities so for 90 days i was put into rigorous training sleepless nights different tasks missions training was going on so basically you they don't let you sleep in these 90 days you hardly sleep in your classes when you're about to doze off it's a very interesting part they push you to your limits the human limit you touch your human limits individual it differs or it varies from individual to individual i would say some as higher potential limits of their physical capability and the mental capability but this probation is designed in such a way that we push the individual to their limits and then decide whether they break or not they should not break we are looking for a human who doesn't break how did they try to break you give me the most stressful situation where you were about to break like it's already there in the documentary that you know like they put you in a tank and then they make you go in the water and then you know like they put you inside take it out and keep you inside so you breathe breathe and the moment you're tired you don't fight it take me, I'll take you on that day when it happened to you, tell me exactly what happened to you, what you were doing what was exercise it's a part of a probation it's called the stress phase, already the 90 days are a stressful 90 days you don't get to sleep, you're waking you're not sleeping you're just running walking learning activities so in that duration of things there comes a stress phase for different units have their different plan for stress phase okay say let's for example i'll give you an example stress phase was for 72 hours so 72 hours the whatever i was doing for the past number of days it was taken more extreme to upper level so no rest no water no food for 72 hours and then difficult activities the level of difficulty was increased every hour every minute a new thing was there and i had to do it without having water you know like carrying logs on our shoulders having 30 cages of backpack weapon and things and all and we are walking continuously they don't let you have water when after a certain amount of time there's a diving tank you know in which we learn the underwater diving things so they put you into the tank the first thing you know you've not drunk you've not had water for say 20 hours or say 10 hours for example what will the first thing you do is you drink water but you can't drink the tank water it's a diving tank everyone is just diving in equipments it's not a drinkable water but then who cares you need to have water what I do I've entered inside the moment they put me inside I drank water because I was thirsty I had not had water for almost more than a day.

1:23:39I was thirsty. I was doing continuous. I need water to continue ahead. I drank water. So now my stomach is full. So then they put you inside the water. They started pushing me inside the water. One, two, three. I was resisting. Pushing as in? There are people who are pushing you. Pushing me. Yes. They're pushing me inside the water and not letting me breathe. So I'm inside the water. So I'm trying to control my breathing. I've stopped breathing. so that the water does not go into the lungs. And then after a certain amount of time, they'll pull you out so that you can breathe. And then they'll do that repeatedly to you.

1:24:16How long will you fight? So basically, imagine that someone is trying to kill you, choking you inside the water. You can't breathe inside the water. So you'll fight. And do you push to come up? Yes. But then you've been pressed upon your shoulders inside the water. You're trying to come out, have a breathe. And then go back. but you can't because you you're already pressed in the water but then they are trained the instructors are trained in certain way that we don't want to harm the individual but we want him to give up or take him to his limit where he says that ab or nahi ho pae ga I want to give up I want to die so we give them a breathe and then put it inside and like initially for 5 minutes you will resist 10 minutes depends upon the strength you have left in your body you will resist and then there will come a time when you can't like you can't because you're tired your muscles are tired you've been in a difficult stressful situation for a for a while now and then you give up okay oh god i can't i want to like i can see the light over there i want to go up but i'm not i don't have the strength left and then they'll pull out and like you still want to do it say yes or no because now you know you're gonna die that fear comes inside you know i was talking in one of my lives spoke about the courage does courage exist without fear no until you're you have a fear you will your courage will not come out.

1:25:33You will give it up. So, I still remember when I was put inside the water. I saw the light. I wanted to go to the light but I couldn't go up. It was... You were giving up. Yeah. I wanted to give up. I want to breathe or I'll die. And I was trying, trying, trying. They pulled me out. You want to do it? I thought, under say, there was a voice coming on. I don't want to do it. I want to go live a normal life. Why am I going and doing such things? There was this feeling coming from inside you say no and you can eat, breathe, sleep peacefully. But the mind, mind never wants to give up. How will I give up?

1:26:11I will die today, but I will give up tomorrow, but not today. That is my fund of life. I will not give up today. And then you went back in. I didn't go back in. They took me out. Do you want to do it? I gave them a look. I wanted to say yes, but I said, no, I will not give up. And they put me back inside. And then I'm choking again, choking and then they again take you out so they make you do it two three times until you're totally dead because there will be a moment now you can't move your lung and then you'll give up the moment you'll give up what you'll do is you'll breathe and the water will go to your lungs which will harm you so the instructors are trained not to let that happen they know when you're about to give up so they'll pull you out so we that is how we test an individual to their limits because when the difficult situations will arise the enemy will not be your friend you might have seen in the documentary which has recently come up in netflix of the a force when uh you know like fighter pilot landed across and he was held hostage by the neighbors yeah right so they they don't let you go easily they want to take out the information will you reveal the secrets will you give up my life is more important to me than my country or my secrets so we want those individuals who are able to hold it as long as possible so I would tell you special forces are specially trained motivated people who are trained for a specific cause and a specific purpose say for example I'll give you a thing there are you found like there's come to news and you found that there are you know like enemies or the terrorists inside some at some place anywhere can be anywhere or something has come up and the infantry is fighting them or any force any army organization any unit is fighting them but how well trained the terrorists are or how the situation goes ahead how the difficult it becomes there are there have been certain instances where the regular army is not able to fight with them because they are not specially trained in that environment they don't have special weapons special mindset special training although they are capable but sometimes it so happens that the situation goes out of hand that is when we come in so we are always available on call with the commanders these are commanders power on call we are available you come in so we get in the heptos go there finish our work as early as possible because we are specialized in that like i'm from the four i was in the four para sf so we are permanently in jnk and we are called the daggers so we've been serving in that area for a long while we have developed our skills our habits accordingly so that is how you know we the difference comes in when things go bad things go out of hand or something special has to come up, the special forces are called.

1:29:14What is special about Mighty Daggers? We have done good operations. You might have recently heard about Operation Mahadev, the revenge for the Pehelgaam. Our home minister had informed in the parliament, taken the name that the four special forces were able to neutralize the terrorists who have done the Pehelgaam incident. So we have recently everyone is aware of uh so yeah that was a one very good operation we have done and similar sort of things goes on these are counter-insurgency counter-terrorism operations then depends upon the requirement of the government and the requirement of the higher commanders we are at the discretionary powers we do things which normally the organization or the military people what is the what is the most dangerous operation you have done so there was this thing where we were walking and a lot of jungles and yeah we have met some friends friends yeah and who wanted to visit us so we had to stop them and we stopped them and we successfully came back yeah i think that is the best i can but yeah it was fun it's a good learning it's was it the cave operation the terrorist and stuff oh no so it happened the cave operation had recently happened it happened in i think february this year i and it was also done by our unit so the cave operation what was the cave operation what was it the terrorists were hiding in the cave and there were three two to three terrorists in the cave hiding and the operation was conducted by our unit in like in like together with the other units and the police forces it was a mixture of all the agencies involved but yes it was done by us and the three terrorists were hiding inside the cave we had surrounded them they were not able to leave so we had to get them get close to them as close as possible and neutralize them so we were successfully able to neutralize them and we got all them all we killed all of them So neutralize is killing?

1:31:22Yeah. You use word neutralize. It's a military lingo. Is it elimination? Similar to elimination. Neutralization. They're all same. All same. It's a military lingo. Eliminate the threat. Neutralize the terrorist. Assimilate. Yes. The target. All of these are same. Yes. Just different. The language. The meaning is same. The essence is same. The words, of course. The words are different. Okay. So the way a police would use encounter, you would use neutralize. We would say neutralize. We would say, we won't say kill the terrorists. Do you guys have special weapons for it, which is different than army?

1:32:01Yes, we have specialized weapons. That is, we have specialized training, specialized equipments and specialized weapons. Give me one or two equipments or weapons that you have, which is special to only you. Tavor. Rifle. Tavor is Israeli, right? Tavor is Israeli that's a 5.56mm rifle that is a specialized rifle which was given to the para as if it was not it is still not with the regular army troops the bottom line is that we need to be stop relying on others and be self-sufficient I think the government has started this a very good thing of make an India initiative we are now being self-sufficient for all these things interesting and okay coming back to the operations right tell me one operation which you're really proud of maybe yours maybe indian army's may para sf which is out there in public and you can tell and you can talk about no i think i think everyone is aware of what happened in the surgical strikes we had gone across we've been doing it for a while like although we claimed it now in the public media but we've been doing it for a very long time first we're openly accepting it So it was told to the general public that we have done this.

1:33:19But people have been doing it since ages. It was never told or shown everywhere. Now it is shown. It is a very good thing. Which agency do you respect the most? As in? Like in India. Okay. I respect all agencies. Obviously you respect all. But do you like some agency? You are like, these guys are way beyond. or these guys are like way better than what we think of let's say there's ib there's rnaw there is military intelligence there is the army the air force the navy you have then they have marcos then you have you know para sf and then you have like greyhounds of small state police as well yes so i understand your question but i you know like i would say everyone has their own the best in their own charter you can't ask Garud the special forces of air force to operate in mountains or you know like Marcos to operate in mountains but yes I am a fan of Marcos operating in the amphibious ops or the operation where you know like they've carried out a good operations recently Marcos I'm very fond of that but given a circumstance where they have to come up in the north and fight in the mountains they won't be able to do that and similarly happens with the security agencies like the ib and the raw and the all agencies rest all agencies which are involved the military intelligence and all they are specialized in their domains i like the way of functioning of everyone because it helps me grow i what my best uh i think i like one thing about me is i observe everyone and i take out good things for myself of course so coming to the organization's part i like the way how intelligence agencies get the input okay they they get the input collect it then come down to a conclusion and give it away like tell it to the people like us this is the final confirmed input you go and do it so i like the way they collect input so i learn it i use it so we involve these things into our own function which will help us improve so as if you would ask me what is your favorite i don't have any favorite i like all of them all the agencies are the best in the domains but what i do is i always imbibe good things which i am lacking or i know these are my weaknesses i'm not asking favorite i'm saying which agency do you feel is way smarter than you thought like you just you were blown away by the way they function i'm not asking how they function what they do nothing everything is confidential i understand but someone who or some agency or some individual who impressed you a lot from some agency I like these guys are I like the Marcos if you want me to say for example I like the Marcos they are way smarter in the areas where the water is there they are way smarter than us even though we also do the water-worn operations but they are specialized in water and the way they function and similarly for the intelligence agencies domestic intelligence IB is so good IB is good IB is good yes IB is doing good you love the way I love the way IB functions we've served closely with the IB and it's on a day to day requirement basis but the way they function is good you like this you like that we are getting aggressive yes if you play with us we'll get aggressive that's a good thought from I would say from reactive defense posture we have come down to a proactive and deterrence-based defense posture.

1:37:04You play with us, we will show you who we are. If you don't play with us, you be cool, you do your work, we do our work. We will not unnecessarily poke you. But please do not poke us. Don't do bad things to us. We do not aim or think of doing bad to you. If you play wrong with us, do wrong with us, you're going to get double. and I think everyone now in the countries have seen it from their own eyes in the past I would say 8 to 10 years what we have done true do you train yourself to become more alert? yes how? so every habit an individual does it shows a particular trait of them I won't name it it's different from my perception would be different than your perception maybe I'm having a glass of water with my left hand it's normal for you but I'm noticing that you're you're having a cup of glass from left hand but there comes a day when you're having now with the right hand so you were playing with me before or maybe your motive was different I'm just alert are you planning to do something wrong you alert because I've been in a situation where I have to think everything is gonna go wrong I'm prepared for the wrong that so if I'm prepared nothing can go wrong because I'm functioning towards that true yeah that is how we've trained been trained but do you train your is there a special training routine for eye movement or something that you do and practice every day no there's no practice but it's a continuous training like sports people right like if you look at especially f1 they have a routine for training their eyes yeah right they have reaction training yes of course they do all of these as a training routine okay and so many more sports all around the world like fencing people do this a lot yes they have to do it or else the fence would just come in so do you do that as well i'll give you an example i think an example will be a good hair you know so during a probation uh when there is almost 30 cages in the bag and a log of 20 cages on your shoulder and you have the weapon and the equipment so almost you're roughly carrying around 80 70 kgs on yourself you're deprived of water you're deprived of food for a longer period and you're deprived of sleep for 30 40 days now this is stress phase i'm talking about okay and then you are made to take a walk roughly around a kilometer in a circular route the route is circular while you're doing this and you're lifting weights on you uh in between random places there are things kept say for example we keep this helmet behind a tree i am walking this route there's a tree on my right and there's a blue helmet lying on the corner and when that finishes there's a test what did you observe that is how we train ourselves this is this is there in that documentary it is evidently people have seen it i'm sure people a lot of people might have seen that documentary on discovery so this is just one example i just gave that is how we train ourselves but on a regular basis also do you train like this a lot of things you have your regular trainings up because once you have trained for that after that how are you in touch with all of these things we need to be regularly trained one why we are called specialized forces because of the training we do every day of ours is exciteful eventful and full of learning we do training every day there has not been a single day in the unit in the special forces that i've like just gone to office worked and come back no i'm doing something snake handling dog handling weapon handling learning new skills I am just improving my skills if I know how to drink water I am learning new ways to drink water which might come helpful for me in some situations so our training never stops that is why we are our brain is actually made to function and think in a particular way be prepared and then device contingencies practice when you are in peace and prepare for the worst so you never fail that's a no fail training we have do you do you get trained by turning for turning anything into a weapon survival instinct we generate the survival instinct in an individual if you're left with no weapon say for example they make me sit here you know and then someone my enemy for example comes from either side wherever the door is they come inside and now i have to fight how will i fight or he's gonna kill me the enemy is gonna kill me i have to live i have to live and i have to go back and meet my family what will i do that fear is imbarbed it is given to us that fear so we our survival instinct comes up naturally it's a human instinct tendency.

1:42:20You try it with yourself or you know like anyone can try it for themselves. Survival instinct will definitely come up. And we need to generate that. The moment it is there, you will turn everything into a weapon. What in the room can be the most lethal weapons? Tell me top three. Pain. It's the easiest weapon. Yourself, your hands are the lethal weapons. We've been trained. There are specific points in your body with just one pinch you become incapable of movements it can make you lie down so the making things as a weapon is secondary when you know like your your enemy in front of you has something if they are bare hands you don't need a weapon we have been trained in such a way we can use our hands and make hands and our body to put them down but if you have to ask me i would the easiest thing I would go for in this room is a pen and then so pen what else what else two more things I can use this helmet as a weapon that's a good weapon it's a good weapon I can use this coffee mug as a good weapon how can you use this as a weapon it has a coffee inside so to disable him to fight I'll first throw the coffee and then moment he's washing hot things and he'll be in a taken a back state he's now weak in front of me i can use my arms even if i can you know use this coffee mug and put him on his throat it'll affect a big effect on his body shock or use it anywhere on his body important organs i can target i'll not be able to kill with this coffee mug but i'll be able to lower him down take him back so that he doesn't have 100 aggression towards me and i can use that towards against him but what's the difference between the mindset that you have or a civilian's mindset like compare civilian mindset versus a special force mindset okay well uh there's a i think there's a the what a mindset is people think that the forge a 4g mindset or a military mindset is that you know it is aggressive it is disciplined and it is non-emotional this is 4g military mindset but it's not military mindset it these are the these are some part maybe some small little bit parts of the military mindset but the major chunk of the military mindset is be prepared being prepared for the things you're not ready for being prepared for that day when you're not ready for okay so you know like you assess the situation we always there's in the back of my head i'm always thinking what can go wrong in this situation what can go wrong so situational awareness is a one okay i would say if i have to explain it to you i would break down into pillars okay pillars of mindset to for easier understanding of both of us pillars of mindset military mindset so military mindset first pillar I just said situational awareness okay I need to be sure of what is the situation around me what can go wrong what can I use like you just asked what can I use as a weapon that is situational awareness what can go wrong that is situational awareness what can be beneficial for me is a situational awareness and then take a decision based on that is the first pillar other can be the emotional discipline which differs a military mindset from a civilian mindset emotional discipline now people you know like in the civilian world they take it against that the military people are emotionless we are not emotionless we have emotion we are humans we also carry emotions but we have been trained in such a way that they are suppressed they are made to suppress because with emotions people do mistakes and we can't afford to have mistakes so emotional discipline not react immediately reacting situations uh thinking before saying some things take a pause it makes a big difference in aggression in happiness in a state of happiness or sadness or aggression you take a pause three seconds i take three seconds the rule is four seconds first i take three seconds first and it makes me think and i end up having a taking a good decision this was a second you know like pillar third would be team mindset always work in teams it helps you grow if for example me i have you as my friend or my teammate and i think that let's go do this I might be wrong because for me it's good it's always good to have a team member speak to someone discuss with someone have their opinion they can help you you will they will help you not go wrong if they are your team members build that trust build that confidence that is the difference between a military mindset and civilian mindset teamwork the things are there in the corporate world they also have teams people in the outside civilian life also make teams but what matters is the trust and the confidence in that team and helping each other grow this is the third what else would be there we have spoken about emotional part situational awareness team mindset team mindset and the third will be fourth will be sorry the fourth can be you know

1:48:10analyzing an after action review it's another pillar of your mindset after action review whatever you have done review it we review it our mind is prepared in such a way that we whatever we do we always review it so that we know the mistakes we know of course if i'm doing something i know where i lack i know where are my limitations boundaries i am not able to do that if i go back and review that next time when i start doing it again i overcome my weaknesses after action review it's another pillar of this mindset so there are certain pillars of military mindset which differs a military mind from a civilian mind i think these four on a broader aspect if you would ask this is the difference between a military mindset See, there's one more thing, which is fearlessness.

1:49:07Yes. You guys are fearless. How can somebody become dangerously fearless? Okay, we're not fearless. Practically saying we also fear. But we are trained in such a way during our training time over a longer period. Okay, let me give you an example is we are put under controlled stressful fearful situations to train her mind so that it does not panic when the situation actual situation comes up so the mda was three years i may was one year four years of training special forces training while all this and regular training which i'm doing in the special forces my mind is being trained that everything will go bad everything will go wrong i will fear i'm a human we are fearful right we we do get scared we we fear because it's a human human instinct you can't die kill it but it is suppressed we keep on adding layers and layers and layers over it so that it is somewhere in the back of the corner when the thing actually comes up you're not thinking about what can go wrong but you're actually thinking on how to counter it i'll give you an example okay and one of the incidents happened when i was up there in the north so i was i ended up in a situation where my heart i could feel my heart pumping right i could feel i am with my team walking somewhere i could feel my heart pumping something happened and i was stuck and i was new in that area new walking with my team i could hear my people calling on my radio ab kya ab kya ab kya because we are stuck now anything can go wrong here if i don't take a call a normal call or a good call they we may cost lives i could hear my heartbeat and the only thing which came to my mind was that i have to go back and see my family i got scared i could hear people asking me kya karna but i was not able to take that call because that fear came up oh shit now what's it but now I was trained in a particular way that even if it comes up you think of something you have a hope my only hope was that I need to go back and see my family I want to see my mom and to go back and eat food with her see my mom I have to handle this and then I posted back my fear shook myself and I come back to your senses and take a call we took a call and all this happened in less than a minute that is how my mind was trained and we all came back safe and even we had good fun but we all came back safe it was a good adventure we had see you talk about you've trained your mind yes training your mind how can somebody train their mind to achieve impossible let's uh talk about this in a like giving you examples would help you also understand what i want to say here is you have a goal you have an aim or you have aspirations all these are somewhat somewhere similar goals, aims and aspirations if you don't fight for your goal if you don't have that struggle to be there where you wanted to be or have what you wanted to have you will never enjoy when the final moment comes so training yourself in a particular way where you accept defeat you accept the worst things can go wrong with you will help you sail through it easily a particular life experience NDA I'll share that experience I was a I've studied in public school and then went to NDA and I was shocked I've never been in a boarding school before and then I was I wanted to wear the uniform that was my end goal but my mind was not trained to accept the life changes which I was going through.

1:53:16What kept me alive or what made me go through that was my aim or the goal that I foresee myself in the uniform. If I have to give my blood and sweat today, I will give it because... And I used to do it every night before, you know, early morning when we used to go to the washroom and shave ourselves. I used to look in the mirror and see that child who thought of wearing that uniform. and if I don't wear that uniform what will that child think of me oh you gave up so easily when life go hard upon you it went hard on you you just gave up you can't so that that that gave me confidence that gave me support do it everyday you would visualize yourself yes everyday 3 years everyday I've visualized myself I've cried by myself alone looking myself in the mirror I've cried why did I take this call?

1:54:11Why am I not my friends on the outside world? They were not sleeping but they were enjoying a normal life. They were able to go back to their families. As kids, I'm saying what, 16, 17 year old child. 17 year old child away from their family, sleepless nights, continuous training, cut off from the away world, cut off from his friends and made to do rigorous training and who was never raised in this environment. How will he accept it and then thinking about oh my friends they are going to college enjoying the life coming back learning good experiences outside world gives you a different exposure while I am in this boundary wall not able to sleep not able to speak to my mother even to speak to my home I had to stand in a queue of 100 people on that one Sunday and when the time came when I got that phone in my hand 2 minutes was all I could speak because there's another one who's standing who wants to speak to his parents so you know like these hardships were the reasons that were pulling me back but you know like every day i used to see myself in a in the mirror or wherever not in the mirror actually in the laptop screen also we are giving laptops uh in the nda to study there's a study material set of sediment we only see that so you know like you turn off the screen on that black thing you can see your face i used to see that think of what decision i've taken but also think of what that child wanted to wear and for that child i fought all my wife i've given my blood i've given my sweat everything even not for me in fact all people all the military people who've gone through this they've all done that so that is how you train your mind you have if you have your goals and aspirations fixed yeah and you want to prove yourself wrong by not giving up you will not give up interesting was this the child that we're talking about yeah this is a child when you were this small you thought of yeah because you know i was born in samba and since my childhood even before that i was in army school the nearest school was army school my parents got me in the army school and i've since you know like much younger to this pre nursery age I've seen the military people moving around uniform people so I always fight for this boy who's standing with his father looking in the camera with confidence you know like when my father looks at me right now he's happy that what he wanted to do has done it since child I've always dreamed of uniform uniform yeah and I'm here I'm always fighting for this child and I'm happy to see myself people will this child be proud of you?

1:57:00Yes, of course. I know that he's proud. You changed your name. No, I did not change my name. It was a surname which was added. So it was... What is that? It's everywhere that you changed your name. So my name was Rishabh Singh and the surname was not added. Sambhal. Sambhal is a community from Sambhal. So the community name was not added. The name is Rishabh Singh. My name has not changed. The surname has added. So now the people have started speaking about that you've changed your name. I can't. and I don't know. It's like since my childhood, my name has been Rishabh. Okay. Rishabh is my name.

1:57:35Sambhal is not my name. It's the community I belong to. You have an incredible bond with our president. A lot of people say mother-son duo. You're like very close. You'd be seen taking, you know, putting an umbrella. Like do a bunch of things that you do. Like being very gentle to her. And the bond is unreal. And you also tell that you guys are very close. what is this bond how did you get so close what happened i don't know i think this is uh how my mother raised me i think because uh coming to delhi when i uh i became the adc to the president i was selected as an adc to the president the first time i met the president it felt like my mother is standing in front of me it had been like i left home in 2013 2014 i started with nda since 2014 I've never lived with my mom I always used to go back home for a couple of days live with her and then again bye-bye for next six seven months and then see her after six but this was the actual time when I was spending my entire three years with the president the nature she has was very homely and I just built a connection I always looked her as my as the president of India of course but I always felt comfortable with her talking to her understanding what she thinks how she functions as a human being and the warmth which she showed upon us like to me and to all the ADCs it was wonderful and it used to make me miss my mom so if you know like I was walking the picture with the umbrella along with the president so I was walking with the president it started raining I didn't do it had it been my mother I would have taken the umbrella and shown it to her and nobody taught me that you also have to hold the umbrella or you also have to show it to her it was just a natural instinct as I would do it for my mother I just did it for her because she has given that comfort that you know like comfort space comfortable space to me it was all natural instinct and the more time I spent with her I used to look up to her I used to adore her because I was spending more time with her than my mother so i used to miss my mother so i used to find somewhere she used to be soft on us she used to teach us ma 'am has taught us a lot lot of lessons all the adcs who served the honorable president the current president in fact all the presidents but for the current president she has taught us a lot of things so i felt nice and it all came naturally like there was a lot of criticism that uniform people are holding umbrella but i i accept it but it was not a training thing or someone told me to do that or asked me hold that umbrella it just came i saw like my why should my mother get wet in the rain i just gave her a gave her an umbrella and then when you have such a good bond you're learning you're young why are you retiring okay you're so retiring so i as a as a son in my family i have some responsibilities and i never thought of you know like how can a child who thought of wearing a uniform and you know who always wanted to be at a place where people also look up to him and he also looks up to himself, now has decided to leave the organization.

2:01:11But I have left this for the people who brought me into this life. I have a responsibility as a son. There are some commitments. There were some commitments and they still are. And I have to fulfill them. I had to take a call. I had to make a sacrifice. And what is the biggest sacrifice for your parents than anything else in this world had i like i was in a situation where i could take a decision for myself or for my parents and i didn't i never thought of and i don't want to be a selfish man i can't take that in my entire life oh i should have done that i'm here because of them i'm here for them and for myself and whatever i've chosen is for myself and for them people might go sorry but people might go through different situations in life and this was not my first instinct that i want to leave i've given my 12 years of life as a child 16 years child till 30 years of like you know like almost 30 coming down to 30 i've given it all to the service of the country and i'm happy i'm proud but when if there are certain requirements at my front where I am needed I can't run away just to be here I have to be responsible towards that also it was a harsh decision for me but I had to take a call and I took a call.

2:02:44You know, in your service, one thing that you're known for is being a very classy man. A lot of people talk about it. A lot of people talk about the kind of characteristics you show, the way you hold yourself in front of the camera everywhere, right? The way you just are present. So I have a very simple question for all the young people who are watching this. said how can a man carry himself with class nobody ever taught me how to carry myself the only thing which i've done is is to look upon people read about people look upon people see people doing things and the only good thing i do is imbibe good qualities from people even when i speak to the first time i spoke to the president of india the way she replied back i liked it and i actually imbibed it in my behavior to grow as a good human to learn good things and i always used to negate the negative every human has positive and negatives what i found a funda in life was that i'll always take the positive things and try and imbibe them even if i take for example i meet 10 people I am taking 10 things and even if I am able to imbibe 2 it's an addition so I think it also depends upon how you are you know like raised through that phase of life when you are actually your mind is actually working you are thinking about things it also depends upon that but I have not done nobody trained me to do that it's a normal reply I would say nobody trained me to that Ami never trained me you have to be so carry yourself like that but yes basic instincts basic traits in me are because of the army the training which i have been through but if like for the people i would just want to tell them that you know like look upon everyone listen to everyone find out good things and bad things in everyone it would hardly take 30 minutes of your day and try and have one good quality from and see yourself in five years you'll be a changed human being so let's make it easier for people tell me three characteristics which every young man should follow or which every young man should have or build themselves loyalty okay there's a term in Ami these three things everyone knows it i don't need to explain these nam namak nishan work for these nishan in the civil world outside the army can be nishan for your family can be your community can be the organization where you're currently working work for that think proudly think be proud be proud of what you do even if you fail even if you do wrong things accept that it's you who have done it humans will do error they will do mistakes it's a life it's how we humans are we all do mistakes we learn from our mistakes and we need we do not repeat it best thing and what is the personal cost that you have paid to become the ADC to the president personal cost I think I have given my childhood yeah I can say that I don't know so I never okay I never knew that there's a there's something called as ADC I never wanted to be here I was I was in an exercise with some different country troops in India and when my CEO called up that you've been shortlisted what do you want to do so I my first answer was not yes that I want to go my first answer was that I want to go here here and here but not here my answer was no way i want to go here but then i spoke to people got opinions and it will be a good learning everyone said you should try it out so i spoke to my ceo i replied back the next day that i want to try it out so he said that you can't try it out either you go or you don't go if you fail it's going to be difficult for you i'm going to be ruthless on you i said i will go for it and i went for it but has there been a sacrifice that you have done yes personally what uh i'm not i'm not married so there's a clause for the adc's that they can't get married adc to the president they have to stay away from the family and i think this is the biggest sacrifice so you don't have life outside that's the cost you've paid that the cost of paid yes while i was serving with the president i can't go out as a normal human being and enjoy life does it get lonely no why I actually sometimes I do get lonely but then I enjoy my loneliness it gives me space and time to rethink about myself my thought process my good things bad things so yes I do get lonely but yes I turn that loneliness into a positive thing so I take that time I like to be every day I need to be alone for at least an hour away from everyone anyone nobody should be near me I want that one hour space I can do anything in that maybe don't do anything just sit but I need to be alone because it gives me that loneliness that emptiness gives me the space to evaluate myself got it that is my thinking so far and here's the last question I ask almost everyone is what is one advice that nobody should follow like i have my favorite one which is one advice that nobody should follow is be practical don't be practical nobody no one in life has ever achieved something significant by being practical they've all been delusional they've all been dreamy they all saw something which was not possible which is not practical and that's why they were able to achieve it they were never practical in their lives during my school days from army school i always wanted to be a sports player okay i i used to love i wanted to be a footballer play for the country then switch to volleyball play for the country and people always told me stop dreaming what you can't achieve everyone has said it to me there is no future in sports there is no future in physical things you have to be an engineer do not there is a term in India don't have a pair of clothes why not why not the day I stop dreaming or the day I stop thinking of something which is beyond my capabilities I will not touch my limits how will I grow if I would have never thought of to be a good human I would never have been here I would have been the same guy in one corner of you know like around my home with my family I would have never explored the world I wanted to go out I wanted to do something big I wanted to be a good man I am I love dreaming like you just said practical approach I want to be delusional I want to be a dreamy man because dreams help me

2:10:44explore my inner self what I am what can I do where is my full stop you said you want to be a good man what is the definition of a good man who makes himself happy if you are happy from inside whatever you are doing if you are happy from inside you are a good man and in this world in this world humans amongst the humans nobody would ever want to do something wrong if they go in their own personal space and talk to themselves there will never be an idea do something wrong that is the situations force people the situations around them force people to do wrong nobody wants to do wrong the situations make you go wrong got it perfect thank you so much thank you for coming here how are you very good nice to meet you sir now this happened actually social media there were a lot of recently there were a huge spike in fake accounts not fake accounts I would say bot accounts those 001 001 those people and you go in about the account it's like one month old two months old maximum and all are talking negative things about me is it bothering you a lot?

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