World War 3, Iran-Israel War, Trump, UAE Conflict & PM Modi | Major Sudeep | FO482 Raj Shamani

12:03Major Sudeep:you are saying that

12:06Raj Shamani:Iran is attacking military bases are there they are there to protect those bases if there is another Iran incident then our military is here this time if your population is or if you have a situation then you have to nothing to do because I sit here and sit tight. Saddam Hussein took us. Saddam Hussein didn't hear anything from Iraq. But when Iraq is in bombs then you know that there is a US base which is sitting inside Iraq. So Bahrain you have a US base. Kuwait another oil producing country which Saddam Hussein captured on the country there was a US base. Saudi Arabia Qatar UAE بولو سب جگہ everywhere all these places have got a US space Israel may just be the starter of the war کیونکہ Israel ایران کے ہاتھوں بہت سفر کر چکا ہے

13:05Major Sudeep:you are saying ki joh baqi ساری countries ہیں آس پاس کے region کی وہ ایران کو country نہیں مانتے وہ بولتے ہیں ki تم نے occupy کیا ہے تو تم کو ہم اٹائیں گے that's the conversation تو اسی لئے ایران بار بار ان کو پریشان کرتا ہے

13:18Raj Shamani:نہیں ایران اور ایران کی

13:21Major Sudeep:like I want to understand that

13:23Raj Shamani:I was in Lebanon Arab world I had a lot of interact Palestinians Arab world they say the closest word of Hindi is Panauti who is Panauti? where they go they are who is Palestinians I am I got a putting in London Jordan. Jordan Jordan when they said that we have to fight with Israel. If we have to fight with Israel, we can fight with Israel. We need to fight. We need to fight. The whole Muslim world said that they will fight. They will fight. They will fight. Palestinians have to sit there. Palestinians have to build refugee camp. Where they are, refugee camp. The same place Jordan's population is there.

14:38Raj Shamani:Jordan's population has to fight. They have to fight. Within no time, in a situation palette. Is Jordan ki army ke saath Palestinian Liberation Organization PLO ki check post lagdati thi. Ye unke sar pe baih khae kyunki inke paas dunia bhar ke paas se aams are rye te. Ye refugee te. Refugee has got nothing to lose. Usko ta sari dunia se ar hai uska kho ne ke liye kuch nahi jordanian aapna kaam kar raha ab aap ek shahar mein ghoom raha or you have a red light and you have a car and you have 4 men put on the car and they have also their head and their head and it was so that they started to threaten Jordan's king Jordan's king that was threatened now the king of Jordan King Abdullah his father was at that time and death threats to him Palestinians Palestinians so Palestine was part of Jordan but nothing here till the king Abdullah is his wife she is a Palestinian woman but still and he is also mind you he is also the descendant of Muhammad himself he is the 41st descendant direct lineage of Muhammad he was attacked on his ministers now I will tell you another interesting thing to quail Not the old community's community ,inis Really?

16:10Raj Shamani:Jordan Keng got kicked for me. Chinaei now hasan army.' How to stack them in Japan. Where do they come from? Nakha perslan with the next war. What country you are trying to make come of the world with this country isSal atención

16:42Raj Shamani:They were the first people who butchered. They were the first people who butchered. They were the first people who butchered. They were invited by the king of Jordan. They were not allowed to do the job. Interestingly, the brigadier who took that brigade of Pakistan to Jordan to massacre these Palestinians was Brigadier Ziaul Haq who was President Ziaul Haq who was the President who was the Army Chief who was the President he was that time a Brigadier who was a brigade that operation was called Black September Palestinians now say that Black September was the blackest day for the Palestinians

17:25Major Sudeep:and they were thrown out

17:28Raj Shamani:and they were thrown out

17:31Major Sudeep:so Israel is the problem because the proxy of Lebanon was the problem Hezbollah he was the problem so Israel is now like Iran will beat you because you will be the problem is that it

17:48Raj Shamani:what is the conflict conflict is Iran's perspective Look, Hamas, who attacked and the entire population of Gaza and West Bank, the Palestinian population, is Sunni Muslim. They are Sunnis.

18:07Major Sudeep:But is it like, but is it like, Israel is a religious war or is it a religious war?

18:13Raj Shamani:It is a religious war for them. It is a war of survival for them. One is that

18:19Major Sudeep:someone was trying to kill my country. I want to be against it. Is that their war? Or is it that they are presuming that you have done everything and we will kill you?

18:31Raj Shamani:No, no.

18:32Major Sudeep:Why is Israel my question is why is Israel right now attacking Iran out of all these years? Why is Israel attacking Iran

18:44Raj Shamani:that is because that is now the opportunity is now now you can see the top leadership between forces as bad ifq Veritas her hand is on top. And you like I said Palestinians are Sunnis but in the whole Sunni world no one is supporting Saudi Arabia Sunni country they are not supporting them Jordan Sunni country Egypt Sunnis they are not supporting which Sunni country is supporting them no one is doing only Israel and some side Al Jazeera and Qatar maybe they are supporting Israel or Iran

19:49Major Sudeep:sorry

19:50Raj Shamani:sorry, Iran support कर रहा है, Iran के अलावा इनको और कोई support नहीं कर रहा है और उसके अलावा इनको जो support कर रहे थे वो Hezbollah के proxies थे जो इरान से अपनी दुश्मनी निकाल रहे थे, बार -बार इनके पस Qatusha rockets हो गए रहे थे अच्छे खासे ठीक टाक rockets से they were fighting in Israel and run away. So continuously they were troubling them. Syria was going on with them. So Syria again was through Israel. So if Israel was trying to challenge Israel's existence, if someone was challenging, it was not the Sunni world. It was Shia world. And it was guided by Iran. So imagine the advantage Iran is getting.

20:29Raj Shamani:If Sunni is dying, then there is no difference in it. but he's saying, it's okay for me if he's listening. Because he's not taking responsibility of the Sunni world at all. He's supporting. But by supporting a Sunni organization, he's creating tremendous pressure on countries like Saudi, Turkey, Jordan, everybody, that I'm Shia to listen to the Sunni, but you're not listening to the Sunni. So imagine the web he created for these people and all these people, even till the Abraham Accords. Hamas When attacked It was A little before Abraham Accords Was After a long Long time Israel was Able to get UAE Saudi Bahrain Everybody together Everything was Expected to have Been sorted out And then Hamas Attacks Then 1100 They killed All of them As you were planning All of them If you remember A trade route

21:30Major Sudeep:What was the solution that all the countries are ready to accept Israel that was what they were moving towards

21:40Raj Shamani:I won't really call them forward thinking countries comparatively to others

21:45Major Sudeep:no

21:45Raj Shamani:Saudi especially is a very conservative country others are fairly liberal they are progressive but Saudi follows Wahhabism

21:57Major Sudeep:but other Arab countries

22:04Raj Shamani:had accepted they had accepted but it was then in Palestine

22:08Major Sudeep:it was again again

22:10Raj Shamani:it was again again now let's go back a little when the attack was in October September and August Narendra Modi and Netanyahu they had made clear a trade route a new trade route which was India to UAE. UAE transit through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Israel and from the port of Haifa going to Europe. So, the Suez Canal, the Red Sea route, was bypassing a new trade route. And within one or two months, this thing comes up. So, there are a lot of things. So, in geopolitics, there are many small small small small small bulls in there and there. They have to pick up which dots are connected and which ones are getting.

23:03Raj Shamani:The US-UK wanted to play because they didn't pick up gas. From 20 % gas imports into Europe, now today they are at 60-65%. Where are they reaching? So, the US energy game is playing. No doubt there is no doubt.

23:20Major Sudeep:There is no doubt about us. We should have to pay for our money.

23:22Raj Shamani:No doubt. No doubt. Everybody is talking about petrodollar.

23:26Major Sudeep:Petro dollar, weapon industry Defense and weapons

23:31Raj Shamani:Your weapon industry Set up And wartime economies grow very fast We are tired of it But wartime economies are growing fast

23:41Major Sudeep:Plus all the countries attack They will buy extra from US

23:44Raj Shamani:You will have to sell your arms and ammunition Showed there What was happening At the time of the op-sindoor We were showing off our weapons Pakistan and China China by proxy was trying to show off that our weapons are so superior. Now, US is showing off that there is no iron dome, there is no anything you have in life. You will be finished. You will go to Iran. You will be broke. You will be ruined. You will be ruined. You will be ruined. All of them. And you know about the costs of these weapons and everything. You are leaving Europe and saying, take the money. So,

24:19Major Sudeep:coming back to Iran and Israel have understood that the previous years, itinne saal ho se dushman hai US or Iran kiyo hai pas wot ek baar joh ladai ho inki embassy jala diya embassy capture kar liya uske baat se US ka interest tha na

24:34Raj Shamani:oil or gas me US ka interest tha joh inhoon hai khatam kar diya now they want to come back to ek to wo hai dousra geography geography is equal to map map the state of Hormuz

24:48Major Sudeep:hai aap kis map live

24:51Raj Shamani:us mein hai so let's go okay this is world this is world now we come here 22 kilometer this is the straight of hormones okay okay yeah straight of hormones This is straight of hormones. This is your hormones. This is your straight of hormones.

25:19Raj Shamani:At the widest, it is 22 to 30 kilometers. Here is Iran. This is your UAE. This is your Saudi. This is your Saudi. Bahrain.

25:33Major Sudeep:Iran is here.

25:34Raj Shamani:Iran is here. This is the whole Iran. Here is Iraq. This is Iraq. Kuwait Bahrain Qatar for gas Bahrain for gas Saudi Arabia United Arab Emirates Abudhabi Oil create Oman again A support These all When we produce oil Whether Kuwait Or Iran Iran Iran Here But Kuwait Iraq Iraq Iraq Iraq, there are very big oil fields. Saudi Arabia, there are oil fields here. Bahrain, Qatar, there are gas. These all the people from the sea roots when they go out here.

26:19Major Sudeep:Dubai.

26:20Raj Shamani:No, Dubai. Straight up. Dubai. Dubai's important is that Dubai has a port. This port through this whole world. If you have a flight today, in Europe to go to Dubai or Qatar where you go. Same advantage in the ports. If the world is going to be oil, everyone will stay in Dubai. Now, this is just Dubai's ports. Now, UAE is the world's full of ports. Iran has a new sense value. New sense value. We call it new sense value. New sense value is I want to disturb you whenever I want. Okay.

27:08Major Sudeep:Because our almost 22 kilometers are more major distance.

27:11Raj Shamani:Three things are clear. One is petro dollar. Petro dollar is its strength. Petro dollar is a little bit higher than US. I have to put the whole world in the world. I have to put Venezuela on the world's largest oil reserves. Venezuela. Okay. that you have to take. Kuwait you have to take. Bahrain you have to take. Saudi Arabia you have to take. Iraq you have to take. United Arab Emirates you have to take. Qatar. These countries all are producing oil. These are all you have to take. Russia with them, if you say that they have to take. They have to take. They have to take. The way Trump is going soft on Russia.

27:57Raj Shamani:They have to take. Russia with them. so that's why he was a little bit so the guy said that he was saying that he was controlling the dollar in the world and now he was actually physically controlling him

28:11Major Sudeep:so if he was a trade guy

28:12Raj Shamani:if he was a guy today's story we all are saying that United Arab Emirates UAE was saying that he was this for me because there was US base Bahrain was saying that Saudi was saying that Iraq wala bhi wo hi bool raha and with this he said sooner or later we'll have to ask US to vacate will they

28:37Major Sudeep:I don't think so whoo kubhi nai karenghe

28:39Raj Shamani:na wo onko vacate karne ke liye karenghe or na wo vacate karega the third thing important thing that if you produce oil jub tuk aap oil ko aaghe bhej nai pahoghe tub tuk oil kisih kama ka nai woh Iran aaj ki tarik me prove karenghe thikhe this is 26 % of world's oil being transported just from this

29:04Major Sudeep:and then this is here

29:07Raj Shamani:either that side or this side if you go to Europe if you go to sea route then you go to here Babel Mandib this is your second point here you go to here Here from Dubai, it was loaded here. Here from the bottom, the bottom of the bottom. This is which countries? These countries, if you can see them, the Jibouti, Somalia, these countries, you know, you said that Indian Navy had some pirates. What were the pirates doing? कर रहे थे, जो ships यहां से इसके अंदर जाने की कोशिश करते थे, वो उनको लूटते थे, इंडिय नेवी की अभी भी वहां पर presence है, piracy रोकने के लिए भी और अब तो थेर थोड़ा बहुत surveillance हो गए रहे के साथ से, फिर आप यहां से चलोगे, this is you Swiss canal this is Swiss canal this is

30:19Raj Shamani:your trade route okay so

30:23Major Sudeep:we have Swiss canal which is controlled by Egypt

30:28Raj Shamani:this is controlled by Egypt Egypt this is Swiss, by the way, Israel can also be credited for changing the world geopolitics so many times. How many people have in this area? When I was in Israel, I always heard that Israel understands that it's so productive area. Here, in the desert, there's a long tail going on. You see, so long tail.

31:05Raj Shamani:this is the last point of Israel a small puppy here this is you think when they were making Israel in the 47th time they also knew I knew that the Suez Canal can never stop Egypt. And if Egypt has stopped it, I will get stuck. And that is why when they were creating Israel, they brought Israel to the Mediterranean connecting into the Red Sea. They call it a geostrategic advantage. Just think about it And this happened When the Swaze Canal closed In the 67th major 6 day war Egypt closed the Swaze Canal This route was open No, you have to Put the whole Africa And then you will Keep the Cape of Good Hope And then you will trade But if you have Israel And if you have Swaze Canal You can just bypass the whole thing And here from the inside.

32:27Raj Shamani:If you can send Europe oil, you can send here. There are also routes. Like Saudi Arabia has a pipeline of East-West pipeline. This has got a capacity of around 6 million barrels per day. So, you can send here. The whole desert is through. Similarly, a pipeline is going from UAE. So, this choke point here is sitting. Yemen is again Again, Houthis supported by Iran. So you have stopped here Hormuz, and Houthis through Red Sea. So both points were hit. Twenty-six percent traffic this was given. And around eight to ten percent the rest of the oil traffic was here. So if you have to feed a China like a country, or India like a country, then you have to keep it.

33:20Raj Shamani:both of them. If you go to Europe, this pipeline came from here, you have switched to Swaze and then also switched to Swaze. But again, in the reach of Houthis. The fourth pillar that you are taking is that if you have oil and you are doing control of oil, if you don't send it to the other side, you are doing it. Which you are not able to send today. And that's US problem. That's a US problem. So, which is, that's not a US problem anymore it is the world's problem because now you have to push the world that the whole world was sitting here but because Iran is dominating this whole area, the state of foremost now whatever the pressure you are putting on them, but nuisance value when they have thrown an oil tanker they will be left

34:15Major Sudeep:coming back to the conversation was America to control petrol America to Iran to Iran so America didn't think good point we got intel and Israel and we work now Iran retaliate you have killed leader now he retaliate so this was not that he will retaliate

34:40Raj Shamani:this expected it was expected that many times wouldn't have when when if this kind of stuff happens to be then many times it will be immediately you will surrender in Afghanistan

34:55Major Sudeep:in Ukraine

34:57Raj Shamani:in Ukraine in Ukraine in Ukraine in Ukraine was expected in war in 3 days Europe has offered that he will come he refused he will sit 5 years he will

35:10Major Sudeep:he said he will get in Europe Europe

35:12Raj Shamani:he said no he will surrender render कर दे leave leave and come back क्योंकि उससे जस्ट उससे जट पहले अफगानिस्तान का हुगा अफगानिस्तान में करजाई भाग गया यहां से तालिबान ने हिलना शुरू किया और वहां से अफगानिस्तान से कार्जाई रात व रात हेलीकॉप्टर लेकर निकल गया So this is the hope that Russia has been on Ukraine. The hope that the pressure is going on, it will run away. Europe has offered to be that you come and this is the game over. It's been over 5 years. This is the expectation that America has been on. One expectation that it was not. It was the expectation that all the Islamic countries were not.

35:53Raj Shamani:was not the way that Bahrain, Saudi, UAE, Kuwait, Iraq, these countries would attack. So, these countries would think that we are not legitimate military targets. Iran would give them a chance to use the airspace to make enemy. The most use of airspace is Jordan. Jordan. If you fire from Israel, Jordan is through. Iraq is virtually under American control. So, your missiles are here to Jordan, Iraq and Iran. Jordan has been running for a long time that Iran is running for a long time. But Jordan has so much power in the middle of it. He has opposed to it. So, what the US says, he will do. They didn't expect it to be that Iran will bomb in all countries, calling them legitimate targets.

36:53Raj Shamani:Now that is a very interesting thing.

36:55Major Sudeep:You know, there was a guest on our podcast. He's a weapon expert, Colonel Indian Amin Harender, sir. He predicted that Iran will create problems. And this was months ago. That every day, there was no tension. and he's like Iran will create a lot of nuisance and Iran will be very proud to destroy the countries around the world so that he can't send anything to the US so that he will do it and he said it and at that time many people are commenting on how they are doing it but he's a weapon expert from Indian Army he's a colonel and he said it and it exactly same happened

37:35Raj Shamani:which is a nuisance value see the thing is When you fight This is one place Where we have failed miserably Many times Kargil war time We have done this wrong Every army Some positions are weak Some positions are strong When you are weak You are strong You are strong You are strong You are a typical Strategy We were in a bad position. We were sitting in a bad position. We were sitting in a bad position. But that's why I tell you that probably the current Prime Minister, who is also from the same party as the Prime Minister was at that time, this Prime Minister is better because he is open to take those chances.

38:32Raj Shamani:That time, Forge wanted it, expected this. but we didn't front front. We fought down from the bottom. Casualty surfer took time. It took a lot of effort. China was our bester. But we didn't expand our front. Iran had suddenly the front expanded. So they took all that could help them to create a counter to them.

39:01Major Sudeep:So the front was not fighting here. Expectation was what?

39:05Raj Shamani:expectation. What you are saying about Colonel Narendra, that is one part of it. But the same Iran, what did he do two months ago? They didn't bomb. Now it was still there. When they said that we were taking nuclear bombs, what was their response? They only bombed Israel back. one day they had bombs just on Israel

39:32Major Sudeep:Jordan and Intercept

39:35Raj Shamani:but there was no one but there was no one in any country

39:39Major Sudeep:main war front opened this versus this but they opened this complete range

39:47Raj Shamani:now they now they have said that you have all the legitimate targets because you have a US base US base is is mortality isatters

40:02Raj Shamani:American 200 kg kg

40:22Raj Shamani:yes if I would happened with with So then you can also say, if you can kill my civilians, I have also killed by mistake at a hotel. I was killing others. The other thing, their weapons of accuracy is not so heavy.

40:38Major Sudeep:Iran's.

40:39Raj Shamani:We saw it before our eyes. When I was in Lebanon, when I was in Lebanon, I was eating ice cream. It's an ice cream shake type. Slush. Fruit slush. I was eating slush. I was eating in the ice. Suddenly, there was bombing. Good military training. We were sitting on the ground. There were boys sitting and eating. They were watching us and asked what happened to us. Then, we were surprised that you were taking the army on the ground. We were sitting on the ground. So, then we figured that if Israeli shelling is happening, then you don't have to worry. They know exactly where the bombs are falling and not only they know which is the rest of the world they know that precision is what is happening but when Hezbollah is firing everything is inside when their gun was running then everybody was inside where will it go?

41:37Major Sudeep:no one has no precision

41:41Major Sudeep:but tell me one thing now okay coming back to this this is Iran okay

41:53this is your Israel

41:58Major Sudeep:which is attacked here right it has disappointed Saudi Kuwait Bahrain Qatar UAE and in Oman also this all these and Israel these are all one country which is probably probably in people not they are more money not more money economically they are not doing good financially other countries are much more powerful US world power support they are more weapon mastery they are financially weapon defense and collective power of the world supporting is also with them so why are they not able to get they are able to save themselves or attack attack this attack

42:48Raj Shamani:doesn't want to because they need to do it frankly in today's time they are doing it some posturing Turkey said don't become a hero they have

43:00Major Sudeep:said Turkey intercepted after that they have to do

43:05Raj Shamani:anything because US and Israel are already fighting the war for them the first thing is the second is they start firing then they become even more legitimate target. He is telling us that that I'm just from flying targets from the military target. He is a legitimate target. Leave us or shocked that you have sat here, or he said, but when your armed forces have started to open and attack, then you are a legitimate target, then you respond to it, and you will go more into escalation.

43:48Major Sudeep:But then, can they combine, can they not show enough power that Iran will stop?

43:53Raj Shamani:They are doing that, through diplomatic pressure, by saying that Muslim world is, this don't do it, that don't do it. But this is all, Our children are just to speak. This is, they don't want to. They are quite happy that US is doing the job for them. Israel is doing the job for them. But they are also worried that this will be our band. Because oil fields are also attacking.

44:15Major Sudeep:Oil fields are attacking. By trust, safety, countries which are called the name of the world.

44:23Raj Shamani:Dubai, Dubai, all the world was selling property in Dubai. Suddenly, who will? Because you're just opposite Iran. And now suddenly Iran is rogue.

44:35Major Sudeep:I don't know. Personally, I will still trust Dubai. I'll still go there. You will. You will see. Like a lot of people. I don't think this will reduce my trust on that city or country. Eventually, Iran will not be rogue for a long time.

44:50Raj Shamani:Unless it happens that it will get caught. Unless it happens that you don't have to talk about that. You don't have to save that. as Houthi is now in nobody's control. He will stop the attack, he will bomb and run. Where to kill you, I don't know. He is sitting in the house, he is coming out, he is being a soldier, he is running back, he is running back, so you don't know anything. So if he has a rogue value in Iran, if there is such a situation then it's a dangerous situation. Because you are very much in range of even the people who are in the you also have good news.

45:29Major Sudeep:but okay now now coming back to this so you said that these countries don't have to war this is why they are attacking because then you are genuine legitimate target fair they don't want to do it for their citizens they don't want to do it for their citizens and for their diplomacy power losses but they are attacking so when they are so military power and America is world's highest defense best in class bombs, weapons, air everything is. And budget is, money is. And they have probably the precision technology to just eradicate something completely. This is America can do. They are capable of doing it.

46:14Major Sudeep:And their bases also. They can start war, they can start because all around the world their bases are. Military bases are. Why are they not stopping Iran?

46:26Raj Shamani:Look, there are many bases is to, before the war started, you were aware, 5th fleet, or whatever, they were out there. Still,

46:34Major Sudeep:America, itinye dhin ho ghe, ek dhin mahi, kahi bhi bhoch sakti ha, poor world. They are doing it,

46:38Raj Shamani:and they are doing it, asa nye ki, wo kar nahi rai, they are doing it. From an Iran perspective, also understand one thing, agar kuch nahi hota na, agar kuch bhi nahi hora, jab tak, boots on ground nye hongge, Iran bhe tum kuch, hasil nahi kar raha ho, agar ap ka, goal actually ye, ki regime change ho, come the first wa probable look at a Yamada the democratic elections hospital vice presidentresma room are there the party party party party party party

47:23Raj Shamani:party party Russia body bags, Russia war of attrition war of attrition war of attrition you just fight and you will be a little bit of a reward whether you have many casualties no matter what you have America says once you go to the end you go to the end and you go to the end because they have body bags back to the end war of attrition Russia is fighting if you think if you go to the western estimate from the east, people have died. World War II was the most more than Russians. The most of the casualties were Russians. England, US, France, Paris. When the Nazis came, they just left. They said, not boss armies left before Nazis came in so war of attrition sb ke bus ki chiz nye a or America ke bus ki bilkul nye a ki ki na to senate se permission hai congress se permission in ke paas aai nye a war ladnye ke liye a or dousera agar jatay hai to joh terrain vahan pe hai pahar hai bhaiya difficult terrain hai is sari ke sari paharou pe chad ke kis ko kaha kaha ڈhoon dhoon ke mar ho ga ga ab nahi lada pa ho ga ga It's a difficult difficult country to fight And if Boots on ground You have been in 5th fleet You are deployed In Diego Garcia They can't do any country in any country If they have to fuel here They have to get their target They all come to their target They all come to sit And they all come to the distance The day they have come here They have to fuel Logistics also there is no water, you can't live in water, or you will go to Diego Garcia or you will come here, you will come here, then they will come here, and if you go to the boots on ground, then they will die, so if nothing is happening and Iran is sitting here, then they will win.

49:21Raj Shamani:If your goal of the battle is to change the regime, if it was just that if you kill the community, go to the ground, go to the ground, peace, peace, which can happen, quickly, it can happen, you can say two sides, and three sides are America which is the cost of GDP 1 % so much of the difference doesn't matter no matter how much of the deal they will kill so the triple crisis that is happening a theory that is happening the bill is going to be which is going to be in America in the name of the public because the prices of petrol will go up on the prices and the prices of fuel will go up on the prices Donald Trump was coming to the power saying that I will not go up on the inflation so I will not go up on the bills but the bill is going to be in the name of the bill it will be Israel is going to be this is why it will be Because the people who are fighting in the factory are fighting.

50:08Raj Shamani:The factory is open. All reservists are in uniform. Their economy cannot sustain it because they have to have the industries working. They are going to paralysis. Their bill is going to be there. Their bill is going to be in survival. We need to say Iran's bill. Their bill is going to be in survival. If you say that they are making a drone from 20-30 ,000 to 30 ,000 to 30 ,000 to 30 ,000. radar is over even then you don't have it for that 20-30 thousand of drone you have the industrial capability you are over bombs so you will create how will you do it where will you come from where will you do it not you have resources somewhere steel somewhere heating there are all resources depleted so their bill is on survival bill three Who will blink before the blink?

51:04Raj Shamani:It's not going to happen. So that is a triple crisis thing. That is where the stalemate is. So like your first question was, when will it happen? It can happen tomorrow. It can happen today too. Because there are three sides. And maybe Trump will change the regime. But I think the majority of their aims have been if they will sit for a good deal. Umhan is being judged. Back channel, I'm now having a hectic talk irrespective of what I'm saying. So that solution can come anytime and it may never come.

51:39Major Sudeep:Okay, probably.

51:41Raj Shamani:If everything goes rogue nothmuk, I will not get too at all untilazi pe divin came down. Then still it will be very high. because this is not a country and this is not a population which is so fast but what's your estimate?

52:01Major Sudeep:what do you think? it will stop? that Ukraine will be Russia and people will write off?

52:05Raj Shamani:my personal feeling is it will end very soon and it will end very quickly very quickly it will end very quickly it will end very quickly

52:15Major Sudeep:it won't be like Russia or Ukraine no Russia or Ukraine is sad because many world leaders have written it write off means It means people like what to do with it and it's sad.

52:28Raj Shamani:It is sad because what happened? The biggest mistake is that the balancing power was engaged. Now Russia is not coming to Iran. Russia is not coming to Iran. It's clear that they are not coming in. It was first that if America is saying that I am moving to the 5th or 7th or 7th fleet to the Bay of Bengal then Russia was saying that you are doing it, then I am doing it. but China cannot come and Russia cannot come so the balance of your world is getting down slowly and it is a very dangerous that is the tricky situation

53:04Major Sudeep:what is the tricky situation again?

53:06Raj Shamani:two things, first just to say that Trump is a madman is a mistake Biden exactly that Russia war was started by Biden and that was not the only war he started Trump has normalized Venezuela one thing has normalized that you can get the heads of states that you have kidnapped one and one this is not a normal thing so that's a crazy level but if you see how many countries have wickets then Biden has got a higher number look at our Imran Khan what did you say a white man told me that I have to accept my rules give me a basis give me a basis I have to go

54:15Raj Shamani:So Biden has also achieved a lot. So to say that only Trump is a madman, he's not a madman. He's just following up with what the policy is. So the petrodollar thing, control over energy thing, they all make plausible sense because they're feeling that pinch. You can come to the BRICS currency, alternate currency, you can come to my hand with the whole energy ecosystem. There are all the problems in their mind. Both are equally mad.

54:43Major Sudeep:You started saying America America America America Superpower And America

54:56Raj Shamani:Like what? The biggest example Korea No result Korea They were gone They were based They were based There were They were Body bags They were The whole world They were so much money is being paid for. In Iraq, they have not paid for it. They have gone to Afghanistan. They have not paid for it. They have gone to one and two. Which country is being paid for it? It is sitting in the middle of the bagel.

55:28Major Sudeep:But now he is saying that Trump is saying that I am not going to... He has been pushing for it.

55:34Raj Shamani:He has not been pushing for it. In Cuba, he starts running a bell car. But until he is saying that Cuba is right next to us, US but they couldn't do anything and Cuba has given them whether it was through drug cartels or smuggling or intelligence sharing they did it so in many small countries America is based on and who is living in Iraq but now you can't really say that they are in control of the situation on Iraq on any basis the Iraq population is still bombing so that situation is still not

56:11Major Sudeep:Japan has won.

56:16Raj Shamani:World War II was really not America's war alone.

56:23Major Sudeep:But Japan ultimately ended in the end. In some sense. But in some sense. And the military army is all control.

56:33Raj Shamani:If you look at that, then there are many things that are winning. But eventually, they only did the nuclear bomb thing, the atom bomb thing, that America didn't do it. But who was fighting with Japanese forces in Burma? Vietnam? It was the British forces which were fighting. Indians who were fighting. Burma's fight was fighting the Indian army in World War II. So, I wanted to tell you something. Israel changed world order and world geopolitics many times. Now we're talking about America. Because you brought up this World War thing. we always heard that Britain's presence never was the sun right okay people from here and there are the presence of Britain that was so in any time Britain world power

57:27Major Sudeep:that was world leader world leader the whole world has ruled in some sense majority in Africa there was a big

57:36Raj Shamani:big France where did the US Where did the US become superpowers? In the world war, if it was the British Empire fighting the Nazis and the European powers who were fighting, America joined them. And much later, America joined them, when did they become superpowers? That's the answer on the map, on the Israel's map. What happened? The contract of Suez Canal was in 1956. in the 1996 contract, a lease in the 1999 year, Egypt gave to French company, that you make a Swaze Canal, and you have 100 years, you pay for it, and you pay for it. In the 1996 contract, the French company, said that it was more than me, to Britain, because Britain's crown jewel was India, if India's path, through Swaze Canal, they sold a stake in England, and after that Egypt has never been paid for a little stake eventually the swaze canal the whole control was in Britain in Britain in the 56th the contract was finished Nasser wanted to nationalize it so it was clear that it was going to be coming from our hands and it was never wanted to be that swaze canal from our hands from the US.

59:03Raj Shamani:If the Swiss Canal came from the US, everything was in your hands.

59:09Britain, France and Israel, they made a plan.

59:16Raj Shamani:In this plan, they said that first, Israel will go to the Swiss Canal, and will try to take over the Swiss Canal. Then we will become mediator. بن کے جائیں گے. When we become mediator بن کے جائیں گے we say Israel we go and everything. Israel will not then we will send our forces and we will this security in the Swiss channel control. You have this plan implemented

59:51and then suddenly

59:53Raj Shamani:you have said you have and he was said reverse the position

1:00:05And France is still alive.

1:00:08Raj Shamani:Israel is still alive. And after some time, England agreed, Britain agreed that they will withdraw. That is the day US was told, US was assumed that there is a new superpower in US. Because you told Britain that what you have done is not a good point. So you will pull back. otherwise world war and we are talking about 1956 45 war was finished 8-9 until Britain was power and empire and there was no empire Britain was a navy Britain was a war and was a war America not America America created a swiss crisis again Israel now what is happening in this it will be this and this will be clear that Gulf countries GCC Council which is majority Sunni plus Israel this will become a new regional power here this will happen and if they are good then leave the power of Palestine and leave them otherwise it will go too much because the fight will increase and this will happen every time so hopefully they will back off

1:01:28Major Sudeep:Do you feel Israel will rule that? Israel has proved conclusively that they can do anything.

1:01:40Raj Shamani:What did they not do? They took a picture of the Pager operation. Can you imagine how a good plan is the best? Can you imagine that you are doing so long and long planning and are convinced convince कर रहे हो Hezbollah को कि यार अगर तुम normal mobile phone use करोगे तो तुम पकड़े जाओगे इसकी जगा तुम pager use करो पहले आप उन्हें convince करते हो फिर उसके बाद अपनी company बना के उनको pager बेचते हो और उसके बाद मौका देखे उनकी पूरी And they've done this again and again And they've done it again and again

1:02:16Major Sudeep:this Olympics game was at that time in Munich then he did it then they did it then they did it then now the right spot one attack and then

1:02:26Raj Shamani:so this is not a joke this is extreme intelligence and this is extreme will and this is extreme fire power so fire power and everything and they have the will to fight

1:02:42Major Sudeep:I was watching one video by a professor and that professor said that if only theoretically what is in practical world, geopolitically what is all factors change but if only theoretically we see Israel has ruled the world in some sort of form and then in future Israel will rule the world and what it meant theoretically where women

1:03:20Major Sudeep:women want to give birth.

1:03:43Major Sudeep:So he was comparing just Europe, US and then he was really doing it. So he was like Europe doesn't have to do because it's the dying economy. US doesn't have to do but the world wants to go there because US has all people attracted. So maybe US who are in the middle they don't give birth so much. But US has power to attract from all over the world. So the amount of fertile women who are capable of producing kids they will probably go there. Okay. But they go there So look at the birth rate They're not producing so much So the only country Where women are happy Developed They want to do children And on an average Is Israel at this point So Israeli women His point of view was Israeli women theoretically Will dictate Where the world will go And to me that was And I saw so much I didn't know how true or false is.

1:04:43Major Sudeep:I don't know. This is very half-bate knowledge. So, don't quote me. For a conversation, I'm asking you. For a conversation perspective. Because I heard demographics. What people have to learn about demography and population.

1:04:57Raj Shamani:See, demography and population wise, the point made by the professor is fantastic.

1:05:03Major Sudeep:And he also said it very blatantly. That it's theoretically. It's geopolitically, practically. Don't quote me. theoretically it makes sense

1:05:10Raj Shamani:practically and the actual way it's the opposite because see and this is a big vast topic and I will cancel this because as you say a little bit Jews against something it goes into that anti-semitic this thing but the point is that if you have so much bloodshed and so war after that if you can't raise your fingers Hamas has 1100 bad. It was really stupid and it was cruel. Agreed. For Israel to retaliate this way may be justified but probably a little harsh. Very harsh.

1:06:00Raj Shamani:But if you just say that if you take the finger on the Jews, you will be anti-Semitic. That's a little wrong.

1:06:36Raj Shamani:Nowocas very intelligent community reaches out everywhere you are moving. Hollywood, Jews, banking system, Jews, news that you have to be or anyone, all the news, information, technology, everything, Jews, but

1:06:57Major Sudeep:weapons and Nobel prizes, Nobel laureates, all the intelligence. So small population but world کے سب سے زیادہ majority سب چیزیں

1:07:08Raj Shamani:ہوری ہیں لیکن یہی population ہے جو repeatedly history میں ماری گئی ہے تو کہیں نہ کہیں کچھ تو غلط ہے Jesus کے time سے شروع ہوا کیونکہ اس time پہ لوگوں نے بولا کہ Jesus Jews کی وجہ سے ماری کیونکہ Jews نے governor کو جا کے Roman governor تھا لیکن شکایت Jews نے So the anger was on the Romans and Jews. The Romans was eventually the Roman Empire in the state of Constantine, the whole Christian was on the whole. Some times the big plagues, the one-third population of Europe was destroyed. The black death of the world died. He was fired. He was fired at Jews. He killed them at that time. Hitler also killed them.

1:08:07Raj Shamani:And before Hitler, Jews didn't have a home to buy them.

1:08:18Raj Shamani:They were not allowed to buy land.

1:08:20Major Sudeep:That's why they started banking.

1:08:21Raj Shamani:so if all these things are happening then somewhere the use of the wrong if Muhammad is saying that I want to create a system in which you can get a loan and you don't have interest in the world then he is pointing to the point of view he is pointing to the point of view he is pointing to the point of view because at the time he was working on the lending he was using the point of view

1:08:45Major Sudeep:interest in the lending is used all around the world

1:08:47Raj Shamani:resentment is not new it is very old

1:09:13Do you think

1:09:16Major Sudeep:everyone is why they call them. That's why they probably again and again they get angry because they're minority. Because it's easier to blame minority than majority.

1:09:26Raj Shamani:It's not just minority. The reason is that within the Jew community they're going to take another one. Everything is inner circle. Everything is concentration.

1:09:36Major Sudeep:That's why they're because there's a lot of discrimination after the beginning. No, all the communities are small and small. The community came together after Nazi. No, like much this feeling of that we only support one another and we only support that's strong. Like, if you learn when we talk about the world that Hollywood has become banks, this is always because they were sanctions on them. No one didn't give them a job. That's why they started creating creative work. No one land. So, they started bank start so they didn't give anything so they have always been the survivors that's the real reason behind everything and then ended up because they were so good and their survival extreme focus on family extreme focus on entire community extreme focus on intelligence because of that in every industry they go they kill they win

1:10:42Raj Shamani:Refugees are always the fastest moving community After the partition, when the refugees were in India Refugees were the fastest moving I'm talking about acceleration This is not the total wealth of motor Acceleration wise Within the country, the refugees If I'm talking about refugee Within the country, it's migration People are coming from Bihar People are coming from Bengal They are the most progressive

1:11:33Raj Shamani:So these people Well, probably Jews are always refugees and they don't have given it. They are running up and running and running here and running. So that acceleration will always be there in them. Because wherever they went, now Israel will be behind. Who is staying? Not staying? The US is probably a place where they are a little safe. But the rest of the place are still looking at it.

1:12:02Major Sudeep:Because there are banks, Hollywood, consumer goods companies, top tech companies all of these Zelensky

1:12:07Raj Shamani:Jew and his conspiracy theories started wow I didn't know this and for a good reason he's not only Zelensky Jew who was prime minister until 2024 he was also a Jew his immediate family 30 people ruling class who is chief of defense staff who is chief of defense staff

1:12:58Major Sudeep:So, you know, for this conversation I was reading yesterday was that who has set this standard in the modern world in the last 5-10 years that how to do so open war, to do bombs on people, to do bloodshed in cities, properly, where you do it in a war area, it never stops. After any world war, there is no peace time. No world war. The entire world at the same time was never at peace. every 2-3 years ago they were fighting something India was fighting itself America was fighting itself everything was going on but how is the standard that Russia is fighting open America is fighting President and Prime Minister Israel is fighting like who has said this President and again Again, I went to the rabbit hole and then people were like, America has started this.

1:14:09Major Sudeep:They were like, Israel has started this, America is doing this. America has said Russia is doing this. Russia is doing this in the small countries, ISIS and others, they captured one country and then Afghanistan and people started it's like blame blame blame there is no conclusion who has set this trend that you can go to a country and go to a country

1:14:36Raj Shamani:so that is the normal set you don't try to find it in modern world when you make the United Nations or League of Nations it's going to be very early then then Gengiz Khan like Genji's Khan and Ogilip Khan who was those people who were the people who sent the message to the king's head to the king's head so these things have been going on for a very long time

1:15:05Major Sudeep:but then after UN, after peace, after international law after international all these in a few years it was not blatantly like after if at least this Lehman Brothers crisis after that it's so blatantly somebody has attacked a country a little bit in a big country

1:15:25Raj Shamani:see this is Russia this is absolutely this is absolutely this is absolutely this is absolutely insane yeah

1:15:32Major Sudeep:Russia Ukraine started from the same time Russia

1:15:35Raj Shamani:no no Russia Ukraine maybe he did not go after Zelensky Putin if he want to people start

1:15:42Major Sudeep:I'm saying people have standards but this opened two countries wars and cities are very new no, Syria

1:15:52Raj Shamani:I have seen that country it was such a beautiful country Russia and US got together if you remember mother of all bombs that was bombed until one time you see, the fight of Syria was also started these problems Shias were ruling and the Sunni majority But the Elavite, the Asad family was ruling You had to change the regime there You started feeding in to Muslim Brotherhood Students, that is ISIS to first-seeing of Gamers and A A Pura ka Pura Daesh Or Levant ISIS And everything These all Problems Then suddenly You realize That This is Our Hand So Those Who Create Then Who Sapo Sapo Sapo Sapo Sapo Sapo Sapo Sapo Sapo Sapo Sapo Sapo Sapo Sapo Sapo Sapo Mediterranean Prosecutor на URLs Примен Казань Примен Прas tuck то अभी भी वो वहाँ है तो वो वहाँ बैट था Russia was also This Thing कि अगर ये फैल गया तो मैं भी गया ये अलग से परिशान हो गय थे क्योंकि जो ऑईल निकल रहा था तरकी वाला और एराक वाला जो इस रास्ते Méditerran Ichin जाता था इसको ISIS ने चुραा के بیچنا شروع کر دیا وہاں سے جو پیسہ آتا تھا جو weapons خرید کے وہ پوری دنیا انہوں نے ISIS کا وہ شروع کر دیا وہ Africa تک پہنچ گیا Nigeria میں Boko haram مارنے لگیا so all these things spiraled so quickly تو Russia اور America نے مل کے Syria کو bomb کیا اگر آپ کو یاد ہو Russia کے بالکل last میں آکے massive bombing اور ساری دنیا کہہ رہی تھی کہ یہ تو America کی war تھی and suddenly Russia لے گیا in

1:17:58Major Sudeep:but in a case جہاں پہ terrorism versus world country versus country it's not so you're saying that I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying America has been Iraq in Iraq

1:18:10Raj Shamani:in Iraq America isn't Saddam Hussein and Gaddafi and Gaddafi but after

1:18:15Major Sudeep:I'm saying terrorism versus world was a different thing I'm saying country versus country Ukraine versus Russia like this no terrorism was not there Venezuela versus America no terrorism was not there

1:18:30Raj Shamani:No, these tags have been tagged from the beginning. Saddam Hussein also tagged that there are weapons of mass destruction. When he was angry, he said that Saddam Hussein has got bio gas.

1:18:45Major Sudeep:At the end of the day, it's energy war. And how did it become a new norm that you hit someone and kill someone? Who would you blame? If you say that

1:18:57Raj Shamani:if you openly you will go to America. And if you will go covertly, Russia has done it. Let me think of, because Russia has many world leaders on the top of serene gas and poison poison, they have played this game and at least they have tried to kill it. So this game has also played it. But the open war of these people, but who is it? Russia is in Afghanistan. Afghanistan is capture they've both done this so so Korea happened Vietnam America China

1:19:38Major Sudeep:because China is like arguably the second most powerful country in the world right now right some say first some say second whatever but now at this point America and then China here and Iran maximum export oil goes to China to the same China has 12-13 % oil import Iran is very important for Iran and China is very important for Iran but in all China is not doing anything China

1:20:18Raj Shamani:is not China is not China how to do China if China intervenes then it can only go into the escalation matrix If China is standing there, China will not stop. First, China has established that China will not come directly from any other things. At the time of the time, China has helped many Pakistan. There is not a history of China that militarily has helped anyone. Because this is a neutral stance. stance or 15

1:21:01Raj Shamani:are are to acknowledge as strong of

1:21:19Raj Shamani:that sit down. India is a very strange situation. You are also friends of Israel and Iran. Both are a enemy. So, a enemy, a friend, a friend, a friend, a friend, a friend, a friend. There is no matter of meeting. But you both are friends. But India is totally back off. Whether you are in Chabarport, you are out of there. ہو गए हो आप ठीक है एरान में बोल दिया कि इंडियन टैंकर्स तुरू थे जब रेश आा जब और

1:22:17Raj Shamani:आप की एक किसी CB World Leader की दोनों साइट से बातचीत है तो हो सकता है कि Narendra Modi ने वहाँ जाकर बात करी हो कि चीजें किसी तरह से सौट आउट हो जाए और मेबी वो रास्ता नहीं दिखाई दिया या हो सकता है वो रास्ता दिखाई दिया भी हो because the path was one day before it was seen. But after that, there was a big opportunity. They took it. So, many things can happen. Iran can also engage us today. That's why we want to do this. Because if not India, then who? Who can do this? Israel can convince us. America is not so much. But we can do this. Oman can do better. So, there are possibilities. China. UN کا اس میں کوئی role ہو گئی نہیں کیونکہ UN already bypass ہو چکا ہے US کی Senate bypass ہو چکے ہے US Congress bypass ہو چکے جتنی بھی world bodies یا domestic bodies جو اس میں intervene کر سکتی تھی وہ سب bypass ہو چکے ہیں

1:23:21Major Sudeep:آج today ابھی جو current scenario ہے world کا after Putin بول لو after Trump بول لو after Biden بول لو after Chinese state head to talk about world bodies useless at this point because all world leaders have said that we don't have no meaning we don't have no meaning we don't have no meaning we don't have no meaning we don't have no meaning so let's not even talk about bodies it's established that in my opinion I am very I am very layman I am very layman I am very layman I am very layman I am very layman I am very layman I am very layman I think this was all the national the international bodies everyone has been sitting just time pass because these bodies have been because if there are these situations will be so we will save humanity when this situation will be nothing does not they are now

1:24:26Raj Shamani:China will be The thing is, if China involved is a country which has to eat coal, which has to drink petrol, it is so hungry for energy. The world's most energy is the most important in China.

1:24:44Major Sudeep:China, America, these two.

1:24:47Raj Shamani:America has its own petrol. America has oil. If it's not, it will take it. Because it's in all oil-producing countries. China के पास वो लेवरेज नहीं है उसने ट्राइ किया है आफरिका में दो -तीन कंट्रीज के साथ उसने टाइप वगेरा करके देखा है मगर वो उसकी भूख नहीं मिटा सकता तो अगर ये situation इसके हाथ से निकल गई अगर बीच में why it was that China has said that US should open the street of Hormuz. And US said we didn't close.

1:25:26Raj Shamani:Logical is that it will be automatically closed. We don't want to go. So if China will be going to this, then it will only be able to get another thing. China's only hope is that I will leverage any kind of or repeat any kind of to look at. But if the end of the US is that I want to get it industrially, the problem is that the US is going to go up on its own inflation. So, the US is going to get it. But otherwise, the US is going to get it to get it from this opportunity. India will probably be gone again. Because by some stroke of luck, our refineries are going to be processed with Venezuela's oil.

1:26:12Raj Shamani:Venezuela like you know that it's sludge type oil and even US refineries they need to add on Iranian oil but we have the capability that we can treat it and refine it and sell it as of today also there are three very large tanker categories they are moving 2 million barrel capacity so three of them in the month of March and April they will reach India so we are not aware of the US who is the permission of giving us but Russia's path is open there was never been closed but it was open so that we also need to open so that we can have to do it now these tankers are hit so they are giving us 5-5 capacity so they are giving us 3 tankers then Russia has already loaded cargo that will also reach you.

1:27:12Raj Shamani:If you stay in a little bit more time for a while, you have to produce a career. Venezuela has suddenly made a productive product. So, Reliance has a contract made straight from the government of Venezuela with no middlemen. Before Chevron involved, now it's straight. Same for IACL, same for HPCL. So, these three companies are in Venezuela's oil. They are already part of the game. US is not up to it because US's refineries, their capability is mixed after being mixed. Our capability is without it. So we are fine. That's our opportunity. China is a little bit nervous for now. But if you look at total energy consumption in China, around 60 % of China's total energy consumption is met through coal.

1:28:04Raj Shamani:So now, it's only energy consumption. energy consumption in your industry your domestic where the car is it is it is vehicles because you can make many electric vehicles make many Indian railways 95-99 % we are electric and not diesel but the car is not but the car is the petrol the truck is the inflation will increase so petrol and oil is the winner is for because you have to drive cars. That's a problem with China. It's a vast country. Logistics. I'm talking about today's story. All things are based on logistics.

1:28:47Major Sudeep:China is a high consumption country. In high consumption countries, consumer goods are very popular. If oil is very popular. In India, for example, today, detergent is a lot of water. and it's a by-product of crude. Okay. It comes from LAB. And it's a big deal. The thing, perhaps, for example, if it's 100 rupees, it's not even in 200, maybe 250, at this point, as we talk about it. It will come in plastics. So, it will come in plastics. So, a small, which you can't put in the house, you can't put it in the house. It's going to be big. It's going to reflect the whole world. So, everyday consumption is getting expensive of country

1:29:36Raj Shamani:not that cost trucking logistics that's big that's

1:29:44Major Sudeep:trucking logistics everything that's going to be big

1:29:48Raj Shamani:car and

1:29:50Major Sudeep:industrial consumption that's increased daily regular consumption that's going to be a plastic plastic detergent till all of them will go.

1:30:01Raj Shamani:Yes, all of them will be pressure. And high consumption countries

1:30:04Major Sudeep:are very problematic.

1:30:05Raj Shamani:Who is high consumption in industrial? China and India. America has its own oil and the ones that can take back. So, America doesn't have to be so much difference. Yes, if it is over all 100 dollars cross per barrel then there is definitely a pressure.

1:30:25Major Sudeep:So, what happens internationally? I don't know what price but internationally oil is expensive. So they're saying

1:30:31Raj Shamani:That you're saying That you're saying 100 That you're saying 200 Because the spare capacity I mean Very many things are going on Spare capacity The reserve These European countries And everything They had a meeting And they said We won't release it We don't need it But that might just be A brave statement 26 % of supplies Is a lot And if Houthis also get active Red Sea Red Sea Root If you are This is also If you are Choke Another 8-9 % So 30-35 % Is this like So the world

1:31:12Major Sudeep:30-35 % Tail This is a small So the war Every individual Is this And all of them Is that It's not So the day-to-day Life Is this That

1:31:25Raj Shamani:That That That Pressure Is this It's not that Donald Trump can escape that pressure. That pressure is on everyone. And if he thinks that I will take China and India and I will drop them, he will probably not drop them, but small countries will drop them very badly. You know, there are the Vietnams of the world, the Philippines of the world, Malaysia. They have all the fuel for fuel. They can also do it. We can do it. We can do it. Pakistan has 26 days. We say it's 54 days. But eventually, there are reserves. When are you going to leave the reserves? The war has to end very quickly. Both parties know it.

1:32:09Raj Shamani:And whether the goals of the war have been met or not, I think the regime change will not be able to do this. Because if their fleet is behind all the destroyers, frigates they are sitting behind their navy there is nothing further if you know if you go further you will go to their range boots on ground you cannot put it on the ground because the war of attrition is not in their DNA or mountain terrain if you are in Afghanistan then you will have a lot of chances in Afghanistan it is not a person It's a populous country. You sit in 93 million. It's a small population. Then you have shadow proxy groups.

1:33:04Raj Shamani:Houthis who can support you from this side. Hezbollah can leave four rockets from the dead of the dead. It counts in the nuisance value. When you sit on the negotiation table and sit on the negotiation table, sometimes you can come to a dead man. I can say that my only honor is that I will go and go and go and go and go and go and go. So that's also a nuisance value. All these things will count. So overall, there are things in those things. That is the reason why I'm saying that none of the parties, there's no interest in any party. Triple bill. Correct. There's a triple bill and a crisis.

1:33:48Major Sudeep:Where do you think India is now? in sub ke bich mein I love by the way where the way PM Modi and this government has actually managed geopolitics in the world which is extreme or yek dunya yeh mein nahi bol raha yeh dunya ke chhodo Indian experts ki baat ki hum biased ho sakte world ke bade bade foreign ministers global power ki countries ke diplomats who ye baathe kar raha ki what dr. Jai Shantar and PM Mozi and now Piyush Gowal sir they have done is it's one of a kind kind of diplomacy in the world.

1:34:30Raj Shamani:There's absolutely no doubt about it.

1:34:32Major Sudeep:They've become friends with how strategic autonomy clear example they have PM Mozi and his government I think at some point it will be studied in this subject

1:34:47Raj Shamani:in those people

1:34:48Major Sudeep:in the context of what they did. How can you be friends with America and Russia, China and France, Israel and Iran? How can you be friends with everyone? And with everyone, you have no friends of all.

1:35:02Raj Shamani:It's not that you have 20 feet

1:35:04Major Sudeep:friends of all. You have friends with everyone without the protocol. You have friends in the car. And all of them are trade-on. In the middle of war, Iran's country, country's country. That's why Iran says that India's tank is going to go.

1:35:23Raj Shamani:And Israel's survival of the war,

1:35:27Major Sudeep:that's why India is all about it. He's our best friend. He's our clothes. To me, that is global perception, global friendship. a new example sent me.

1:35:41Raj Shamani:I remember when he was singing in Trump's hands. He was so strong. I was telling my wife, this is dumb.

1:35:51Major Sudeep:Trump's hands.

1:35:52Raj Shamani:I was like, wow, that's the US President. But it will be taught. I think, generally it will be taught. And see, the thing is, they didn't manage only good times. They managed bad times. In the past, 8-9 Mayhem, when Trump's second tenure started, you can say that whatever reason you are doing, I think Pakistan has done a little bit of a situation with Trump and China. They have experience this thing. Because Pakistan has done this work before. China and America. In fact, America and China was the only Pakistan. And the world is a wealthy country

1:36:38Major Sudeep:where there are two military bases.

1:36:39Raj Shamani:Correct. So this is a kind of a situation in your own. So Pakistan was on top of us in the past 6-7-8 months. And what was our domestic politics in our voice? We were scared. Where did the 50 % go? Very instigating also. Many instigating people were saying they say, America is going to be given a month to give you permission to give you a month. You are going to be big in trade deal. What do you say? But all the things are completely patiently and with the way. It doesn't seem like that Trump is giving you time till Friday, Monday, Tuesday. No. There is no response. There is no response. and the way Trump has treated the rest of the world leaders, we don't have the opportunity to come.

1:37:39Raj Shamani:Whether he talks about me on the phone, whether Trump has said to me, or whether he has set another meeting, we just have to be in accord. If there is a problem from our domestic politics, we have to see some things like this, the attacks on the previous game were made a little different theory we have a good operation we got results we got results if we look at hindsight in today's way it was very good because we have one other guy told us that my power is that you have so much here after this we don't have to sit here so the people who are facing today we know that all the things

1:38:50If you see

1:38:54Raj Shamani:جو پاکستان کا پورا اس moment hal تھا ان کا band بجا ہوا تھا اور ایک سیکنڈ کے لئے ہم یہ مان لیتے ہیں کہ پاکستانی جو بول رہے ہیں وہ سارے سچ بول رہے ہیں مطلب جو ماسٹ گنمن ہے وہ ہمارا ہے ملوچستان میں جو ہو رہا ہے وہ ہم کر رہے ہیں افغانستان سے جو ہو رہے ہیں افغانستان ہمارا دوست ہے ٹی ٹی پی والا جو کچھ ہو رہا ہے وہ ہم کر رہے ہیں ہم ان کی ساری میں یہ نہیں بولتا کہ ہمارا ہے but I said, we all know that we all know about the things we all know. These all things were so strong that we all know that we all know about the country and we all know about the country. Without getting into a war. Though we achieved the aims and it was a fantastic operation, all of a sudden we all know about it.

1:39:35Raj Shamani:But after that, I also feel like that if the media is so much more sure, then we all know about the operation with a few different ways, a few different timing, surprise all the elements of attention and we could get access to media給 us percent that how hadعت

1:40:14Raj Shamani:had عت inch ka sina, we have a lot of hype on it, that we have to retaliate. We have so many other ways to bring them to the ground. We have to keep it. What happened was that Operation Sin Dour came up with Aasim Munir. And now, they have survived. They have been gone. At that time, the force was going to be to be ready. But the moment India attacks,

1:40:44Raj Shamani:that is my take on it people will because end of the day it was a successful good operation it was a great operation one thing which came out of it

1:40:59Major Sudeep:what lot of people not see

1:41:00Raj Shamani:India

1:41:01Major Sudeep:has billions of dollars to defense deal after the other countries after that. Because we have shown and precision so our defense technology worldwide is selling and developed nations to develop and deal not just underdeveloped or small countries big country and then we have to take things from the So it was very big.

1:41:22Raj Shamani:Turkey is just Turkey to Greece to to give the money, the money will be sold to Azerbaijan, Armenia will be sold to give it to Armenia. So Indonesia, pure Islamic, these deals are all kinds of deals. So operation-wise, fantastic. Defense deal-wise, fantastic. Technology-wise, fantastic. But if we have the timing to get a little under pressure, which was under pressure of public perception, and maybe because of the media hype, that we are getting more, when we are coming, when we are coming, we will do it tomorrow, tomorrow. So, sometimes a military acumen, the pressure has been built so much to react very quickly that our upper hand was on Pakistan, it probably came out of our minds.

1:42:15Major Sudeep:If you are a military member, you can tell more about something. Then maybe that's your view.

1:42:21Raj Shamani:That's my view. That is just my view. And not from a military perspective. I'm just saying, the pressure we have created on Pakistan. Maybe, but that's bygone. That's a bygone. Maybe that's a... Now, the second question, that what's the difference between Iran and Iran now is what's the difference vis-a-vis Pakistan? Again, I'll say the same thing. Suppose, mass gunman is our, suppose Balochistan is our effort, suppose Afghanistan, our relations, we have all the same we have all the same we have all the same we have all the same we have all the same and suppose that TTP whatever we have all the intelligence effort in the given situation

1:43:12Raj Shamani:when there is no Iran or an unstable Iran our 3-4 people have all the border where we have all the same these things how can we do? If Pakistan says that we were right, then we were going to do it. If we don't like the border, if we don't like the border, if we don't like the border, if we don't like the TTP, then we don't like the border. You are doing it through Iran. China's on top of it. Pakistan's on top of it. Iraq's on top of it. Iraq's on top of it. that route was under challenge. So, where are we from Iran? See, Balochistan is West Pakistan. The border is from Iran. If we support Balochistan directly, and Prime Minister Modi has very categorically said that we are in support of Baloch people.

1:44:11Raj Shamani:It's wrong with them. There's a humanitarian crisis in Balochistan. Helicopters are up and down the people. The people are gone. and women are going to go to the beach. So, Balochistan is in a problem. We have to support them. Our Prime Minister has said that but how do they support them? There is no direct border. You can't go to Pakistan from Punjab. We support our relations with Afghanistan. We have established our relations with Afghanistan. We have to establish our money. We have to support our money. How do you support them? do you think? Pakistan can't do it. Pakistan when the Taliban was inside, he had two trucks to buy our two trucks.

1:44:57Raj Shamani:The support could be through Iran. How could it be? Now suddenly with Iran gone, you have two, three things, immediately...

1:45:11Major Sudeep:So, to keep the good and good power in India's favor?

1:45:17Raj Shamani:India's favor? It was. It was definitely because, like I said, our relations were always good with Iran. And the next leader, how does nobody know? If we were making a port in the 4th, if we were taking gas from them, if we were to get petrol, fuel, we were to get our relations, Relations то ہمارے ایران سے हمیشہ اچھے رہے ہیں Sunni world میں شاید ہمارے تھوڑے بہت relation خراب رہے ہو جو کہ اب کافی ٹھیک ہوئے ہیں لیکن ایران کے ساتھ تو ہمارے ہاں بہت بار ایسا ہوا ہے کہ Ayatollah Khmeini نے کافی سارے ایسی statements یہ جو بالکل بے سر پرکت تھے like he asked the Kashmiri people to rise Indian Muslims کو directly address کر کے Khmeini نے کئی بار التے پلتے statements دیئے تھے There is no doubt about it.

1:46:10Raj Shamani:But we can assume that it was a political compulsion. But overall, I think Iran was friends with us. So, as such, strategically, geo-strategic equations wise, we gain nothing. We are actually on a back foot. Because if we really have to support, if our Baloch people support how will we do this? what path? there is no path no path how will you support Afghanistan? where will the wave go? train can't go or train can't go or fly away or where will it go? where will the wave go? I mean Kuwait and Tazikistan can't come there is no path interesting see

1:47:00Major Sudeep:coming back to America that's probably going to be my last question is

1:47:09do you think America

1:47:15Major Sudeep:world ki most powerful country wo bolta hai ki sab humare dost banon, hum tumhe support kareenge har kisi ko, bohut saare countries ko is ne bol rakh hai ki you apki military banane ki zhwarat nii, America will fight wars for you, things for you, right and bunch of the times they have done this but do you think ki America eek unreliable partner of a world's support forever he has dollars which in Russia and Ukraine has been over Russia's dollars almost finished so currency has been controlled Ukraine has said to support him he has instigated whatever nothing, anything today we are not helping America these all countries Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain all countries America has made its base and said that I'm not doing anything I'll end up doing it now he's attacking he's not doing anything like somewhere wherever America has said that he will buy something and he's friend he's always proofing every 1-2 years that he's unreliable partner and he's not making friends do you feel it's a big sign and that's the way as a world change in order

1:48:37Raj Shamani:I will put it a little differently not that America is unreliable where it is where it is supported yes that is America like Israel

1:48:48Major Sudeep:has full support

1:48:49Raj Shamani:America where it is supported where it is supported you can say that whatever white man's club which is most of most of the NATO NATO majorly white club there America's support is unconditional except for what is happening in Europe now because the Ukraine war like I told you, which happened with France, I think America is a participant. which are all francophone countries which I have told you which are all dependent on resources and all of them America is sitting outside where there was a coup and there was French troops from there, French military and there was a military so they are predate that if this will go up then my bed is sitting here for food to eat so white men's club America's support is there.

1:49:52Raj Shamani:The other people are poor country. There are some people who are connected to America. They have benefited Japan. You can't say that Japan didn't benefit. Japan didn't benefit. Korea. One is North Korea protecting. Overall, Korea as an industrial power has increased. But in many places, where America is going, Look at that. Examples Afghanistan The whole fight of the USSR was against the USSR Pakistan and America they were the people who fought the country Syria America has fought the country Ukraine America has fought the country They are giving support everything they are doing but the country in which they all know So the situation is the situation is the country and that is a learning point for India and I'll come to this interesting part which is a topic because your podcast has got such a vast reach so you should go through this story America and India was a former relationship with CIA and Tibet

1:51:56Raj Shamani:Okay.

1:52:01Raj Shamani:Airfield We have To establish Tibetans To support The insurgency We have To support Dalai Lama We have CIA Asylum We pissed China We have China Needle Which China Had to retaliate China Had other reasons Also But This Reason You Have Add To

1:52:58Raj Shamani:China. China Sea is where America is on the top of China. Philippines or Vietnam. There are many countries on the top of America. And if there is nothing more than that, the sea route has a way to the US. So, America can put pressure on the top of the top. This side is not the way to the top of America.

1:53:21Raj Shamani:Pakistan is the only one. Afghanistan is the only one. Myanmar is a unstable country where you can find the way you can find the way you can find. But the population is such a way and the terrain is such a way that you will have a little difficulty. The hope is that India will give America a path again for which India is saying that. Many times we have asked for questions, but we are saying that.

1:53:45Major Sudeep:Military bases are.

1:53:47Raj Shamani:Military bases or any kind of military cooperation. Quad military cooperation is C-based. but where the land-based border is, India and rightly so we are not in that trap and in a desperate situation and in today's time America's country which in the past 3 years has been hit 10 countries in the past 3 or 4 years they have hit 10 countries and they have hit 5-6 in your neighborhood

1:54:51Raj Shamani:road record. They asked me St. Martins Island. Okay. Now I'll give you a second. Map. Map. Bangladesh. America has asked St. Martins Island. Okay. Sheikh Hasina has said, I don't give it. Where is St. Martins? Exactly. Where is St. Martins? Wow. Okay. Okay. So this is India. Wow. Now I'll tell you another wow.

1:55:18Major Sudeep:India is Bangladesh. Bangladesh has asked America. St.

1:55:23Raj Shamani:Martin's Island No, it's up here Myanmar and

1:55:32Raj Shamani:St. Martin's Island Okay America St. Martin's Island Sheikh Hasina Sheik Hasina I will not give you Okay Now you can see Myanmar And Bangladesh

1:55:52Bangladesh

1:55:53Raj Shamani:Okay So this is St.

1:55:56Major Sudeep:Martin's Myanmar or Bangladesh?

1:55:58Raj Shamani:Disputed but it is in Bangladesh Okay This area is Here from here This is the entire Rakhine State Myanmar This is the area Where the Arakan Army is going on Arakan Army is a rebel army against the Myanmar government ठीक है तो यही वो area जहां से Rohingya भी cross करके Bangladesh में आ रहे है तो यह Rohingya का जो घर है वो यह जगह होगी ठीक है यह Myanmar हो गया यह Bangladesh हो गया यह इनका यहां पे दूसरा Chin State हो गया आ गया अब मैं इसको थोड़ा सा कर देता हूं उपर ठीक है and now look here what is it St. Martin's Island troubled area of Myanmar right now this state Mizaram Manipur Nagaland and Arunachal and China America wants to reach China Now a small question.

1:57:09Which Western powers have been ruled on us?

1:57:15Raj Shamani:Britain and Portugal. One Protestant and another Roman Catholic. Okay Mizoram 100 % Christian Manipur Almost 45 % Christian Nagaland 100 % Christian Arunachal In the last 20 years from about 5 % They are now 35-40 % Christian in these areas Okay The British have been Protestants, Portuguese, Catholics. But here the missionaries before Christianity and independence were American. Surprised? The church of Nagaland is the Baptist church of America. Boston based. Okay. The church of Mizoram is the Baptist church of Wales. svala hai Manipur mein jo church hai Kuki jo follow kerte hai that again is aligned to US ar na chal mein jo church ab jo missionaries inko expand kar raha hai they are again US based they are again Baptist church so the missionaries who are actively promoting this area are and the only state of the world which is majority Baptist is Nagaland around 70 % of Christians in Nagaland are Baptist 100 % Christian but the rest of the 70 % are Baptist which means they are aligned they are somehow connected with the US US is on the record CIA is on the record they have made a statement in the Senate that we use the missionaries for intelligence gathering for destabilizing states we have a statement in 1950s-60s in 1950s-60s so you understand what is happening Bangladesh just before you have to

1:59:43Raj Shamani:be careful that what happened. Suddenly why did it happen? You know, Mesos, sorry, Manipur, there are cookies, there are naga and there are methees. Methes are Hindu, nagas are Christian and cookies are Christian. The guy kept with cookies and naga but this time they had cookies and methees and thinks you know what is the status in Manipur. Now interesting, across Myanmar state it's Chin state this area this Chin state this is also Christian This is almost 80 to 90 percent Christian. The other state of Myanmar is also a Christian. The idea is that the US is itching to find a road to China. Because India is saying.

2:00:44Raj Shamani:So now you will have heard of Bangladesh and Buffer State. What is it Buffer State? What is it Buffer State? that buffer state is precisely this so jub yeh raastas one is ki yeh Arakan army which is US supported hai buddhist lakin US supported hai aur yeh pura ka pura abhi turmoil mein hai because of Rohingya because of Arakan army ka fight with Myanmar and everything suppose yeh fall karta hai America ko aur iske aage yahaan se pura ka pura ya to Myanmar ka Christian state lakin aisa ho nai saktay ki yeh sirf Myanmar ka Christian state rhai in the zoo zoo is a community which is cookie zoo community so the cookie Manipur which is living here and this is the zoo and the other side which is in Chin State it is the same tribes it is the same tribal and the moment you say anything to the Manipuri cookie the zoo gets disturbed and India's most violent insurgency India's most violent insurgency and most violent insurgency and most miserable insurgency when all of these things are happening Venezuela's president just 1-2 days here Nigeria's America's bombs and what did Trump say Trump said Christianity in Nigeria is in danger Islam in the war.

2:02:20Raj Shamani:It is like Christianity. So he bombed places in Nigeria because he said in Nigeria Christians are unsafe. Okay? Manipur's situation was solved very far. It was very far solved. Like this happened, again there was a boil in Manipur. Pointer number one. I've been told you that geopolitics are running a bulb. tick tick jaltay rathay pointer number two the moment this bombing happened there is a lady called Grace Collins karke hai thank Grace Collins hai for a long time she has been bhoat time se wo ye bolti hai hai ki Nagaland should be a separate state ھیک hai usko US se funding so us chiz ke liye milti rathi thi jab humare samjhauta waghira huwa ta Nagaz کے ساتھ میں NSEAN کے ساتھ میں جب ہمارے agreements ہوئے ہیں تو اس کے بعد سے یہ تھوڑی quiet ہو گئی now she has again applied to دوبارہ سے اس نے Senate میں apply کیا ہے کہ میری funding دوبارہ سے شروع کرو اور یہ program Nagalim greater Nagalim بولتے ہیں اس کو یہ project میرے کو دوبارہ سے شروع کرنا ہے میں ایک بھی second کے لیے یہ نہیں بولنا چاہتا کہ جو India کا جو North East کا Christian ہے وہ anti-India ہے میں بالکل نہیں بولنا چاہتا کیونکہ میرے دوست ہیں میں ان کے ساتھ رہا ہوں they are lovely people fantastic Nagaland Manipur the Christians they love India and they are they are fantastic people but when someone wants to play then they can play and they have played before Nagaland the whole movement from India was a Fizo who was very active in the 70s Angami Fizo his slogan was Nagaland for Christ.

2:04:15In Gujarat,

2:04:17Raj Shamani:Gandhi ji had bought a bottle. Who had bought a bottle? Nagaland is a dry state. 100 % Christian state and dry. There is a wine glass in Christ. There is no wine glass in Naga. There was a local drink. That was also gone. Because they wanted to create a very, very pure Christian state. So when you stir the sentiments, you can get bigger. So as of today, Indian Christian, which is Northeast, they love India. They are in our army. They are in Siachen, Kargil, fantastic soldiers. When I was in Nagaland, they were ambushed. We were told, what soldier? Enemy worth his thought. So I don't think that our Christian is anti-India.

2:05:11Raj Shamani:But if America is playing, America is not saying, CIA is playing, then they can play. So, this is a thing for which we have to be very careful today, especially because America is on an ascendant note. If Iran has a completely like this, then think about Venezuela, you have to be in Pakistan, you have to be in Bangladesh, you have to be in Nepal, you have to be in Nepal, you have to be in Nepal, you have to be in Nepal, you have to be in Nepal, you have to be in Nepal. Shri Lanka all areas you achieved what you want to do

2:05:47Major Sudeep:and

2:05:51Raj Shamani:right voices are why are you standing up in Manipur why should you create so this is a ticking one I'm going to be very very careful on this because terrain difficult and jungle full jungle you have to be very very careful so that was my northeast worry and based on what we were saying ki America to a kind of answer is that America's friends or enemies if you will do enemies with them then Iran and if you will do friends then you can be destroyed as Afghanistan as Syria as Syria there are 10 examples where America has destroyed friends and country Ukraine it's like you have to be very calculated and then again I'll come to your point just maturity se humari current leadership isco handle kar raha that is fantastic kisi chiz mein overtly excited nahi hor hai aur kisi chiz mein dub bhi nahi re toh aisa nahi ki dub re hai or aisa bhi nahi ki itana zore zore se chilla re hai ki samane wala bule yaar ye kya chal raha so calculated calm approach but be careful of everything that's

2:07:04Major Sudeep:but thank you so much for this thank you so much Raj it was pleasure

2:07:08Raj Shamani:Wonderful meeting you. Hi.

2:07:11Major Sudeep:Hello. How are you? So glad to meet you. Pleasure meeting you sir. Please have a seat. A lot about you and so good to see you in person. Good things of course. How are you sir? Delhi.

2:07:23Raj Shamani:I am born bottom in Delhi, yes.

2:07:25Major Sudeep:Do you like Delhi?

2:07:25Raj Shamani:I am really fond of Delhi. Because you know, you can talk about all the pollution and everything.

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