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Financial Audit Podcast Episode Summary
Episode Title
He Has $2 In His Checking Account!
Overview In this episode of Financial Audit, host Caleb Hammer interviews Jamal, a 24-year-old debt collector living in Las Vegas. The discussion revolves around Jamal's financial situation, including his income, expenses, savings, and financial goals, particularly his aspiration to enter the real estate market.
Key Topics Discussed
- Introduction to Jamal
- Background: Jamal relocated from Ohio to Las Vegas and currently works as a debt collector for Nordstrom.
- Income:
- Monthly salary of approximately $2,600, with incentives boosting it to around $4,200 after taxes.
- Expressed dissatisfaction with his job but acknowledged it as a means to fund future real estate investments.
- Financial Situation Assessment
- Jamal rates his financial health as a 7 out of 10, citing a significant improvement from the previous year where he often lived paycheck to paycheck.
- Current Balance: At one point, his checking account had only $2.45, leading to discussions about managing funds and emergency savings.
- Budgeting and Spending Habits
- Spending Patterns: Jamal frequently sends money to family and his girlfriend. He has made considerable purchases, including a MacBook, contributing to his current credit card debt.
- Credit Card Debt:
- Jamal has a high balance on one credit card (Discover) due to past misunderstandings of credit card usage.
- Interest charges are becoming a significant financial burden.
- Emergency Fund and Savings Goals
- Jamal aims to build an emergency fund of $10,000, but realistically needs around $15,000 considering his expenses.
- He has only about $2,500 in savings and recognizes that he is far from a fully funded emergency fund.
- Actionable Steps
- Budgeting: Jamal is encouraged to create a strict budget, cutting back on unnecessary spending (e.g., fast food, entertainment) to prioritize debt repayment and savings.
- Financial Resources: Caleb recommends tools like Rocket Money for budgeting and a card called Fizz to help improve Jamal's credit score.
- Income Strategies: Explore opportunities for increasing income through side hustles or better job prospects to meet financial goals.
Key Takeaways
- Financial Literacy: Jamal's situation highlights the importance of understanding personal finance management, especially in budgeting and debt management.
- Prioritization: He must prioritize debt repayment over discretionary spending to improve his financial health.
- Long-Term Planning: The episode emphasizes the need for creating a sustainable financial plan that includes savings for emergencies, retirement, and real estate investments.
Conclusion By the end of the episode, Jamal acknowledges the need for significant changes in his financial practices to achieve his goals. He is set on following the budget and implementing the recommendations made by Caleb to improve his financial standing within the next six and a half months.
Support & Resources
- For those interested in financial education or wanting to join a financial audit, they can reach out via email or check out Caleb Hammer’s social media links.
- Additional resources mentioned include Patreon for exclusive content and various budgeting tools suggested to aid in financial management.
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Transcript
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1:02I live in Las Vegas, Nevada, and this is Financial Audit. What do you do for a living in Las Vegas? I'm actually a debt collector for Nordstrom, so I've been doing that for... Nordstrom? That's what I'm saying. A debt collector for Nordstrom? Before you say anything, you'll like the numbers. Before you say anything, you'll like the numbers. Because I only say that because it's actually the best job I've worked in financially, and I'll explain a little bit more if you want me to. Nah, but who likes debt collectors? I'm going to be honest with you, neither do I. neither do i it was the only remote job that i can find at nordstrom i mean not nordstrom but in vegas in general really yeah well wait why did it have to be a remote job in vegas so i moved from ohio originally and i needed a job in vegas and so i originally started with yelp for like six months just to transition so i can get an apartment in vegas and then once i didn't scrunch my hair i'm so sorry i wasn't looking beautiful for you no you're good i'm sorry continue your story while I scrunch.
1:59It's okay. So basically what happened was once I moved out, I liked the fact that I was working from home. It was easier, good on my car. And not only that, I kind of lived alone. So I needed something that can financially handle my expenses and also, you know, live day to day a little bit easier. So what do you make now in this position? On a monthly base, I make roughly 2 ,600, but I also make incentive as well. So that boosts me up to 5 ,000 a month. Close to$5 ,000. On average? On. The incentive? Average, let's just say$4 ,200 to play it safe. Okay. Is that before taxes, after taxes? After taxes.
2:38Okay. Yeah. And the incentive is you getting that debt closed? Pretty much, yeah. So depending on how much I make on a monthly base in terms of collecting debt, that's how my incentive gets tracked. Okay. Pretty much. Yeah. Now, if you want to not get hounded by debt collectors, I mean, I can't help you unless you're on this show, but you can subscribe. And maybe that'll just give you a good luck button to not get called by debt collectors like you and your evil position of work. I'll be helping these people, okay? I help. I help. I really do. Oh, f*** off. That's stupid. No, let's not say that.
3:15Come on. Well, I'm glad you're doing better. What were you making? What was I making? Like, before Nordstrom? or and i'm gonna just yeah so so before northstrom i think i was making like roughly
3:30roughly 2200 after taxes a month yeah do you enjoy this position no no oh no not at all no this is this job isn't fun at all but at the same time it helps it's helping me build the dream that i want which is getting into real estate and i make just enough money so i can pay my bills and my expenses and still save enough funds to get into real estate. What is this getting into real estate? You're trying to get a personal residence? You're trying to get some rental properties? So I'm trying to get a residence and then also rent it out. So trying to become a landlord. Rent it out as in house hacking?
4:05Like you live there and then you get some roommates? No, no, no. So I live there, fix out the place a little bit, and then I'll get a tenant to live there and they'll pretty much be paying me the rent situation. Okay, so are you going to do like the BRRRR method? What's that? all the r's let me make sure i get all the r's right it's like buy rehab rent refinance repeat something like that okay okay and i'm no reason i say like that so basically the my process or at least the way i'm going about is i'm going to get the place and then once i get the place i'm gonna keep it for about two months if i need a nice fixing give it fixing if not um move a tenant in i have a lot of friends and also mentors that are in the real estate business so they have a way better idea on how to go about this.
4:51So my only goal right now is to save 10 ,000. And then once I save 10 ,000, that's pretty much emergency fund for Lord knows whatever might happen. And then from there, get into real estate and start building, I guess, get into investing as soon as possible, if that makes sense. Sure. Well, we'll certainly talk about that a little more, but we need to go through your financial situation and see what's up. I want to hear from your perspective before we go into it and everyone is a little more optimistic usually than it typically is when I go into it for some reason but I want to hear from your from your perspective what's your financial situation if I had to rate on a scale one of ten I would say a seven and I say seven and I'm only saying that because my financial situation was horrible last year I was living check to check a lot of times I ended up owing more than I had coming in so I had to fix that And then it was just last December when I'm like, you know what, I'm really serious about getting into real estate and I kind of don't want to bull**** myself.
5:51So let me at least, you know, make some sacrifices right now and try to make as much funds as I can. So that required me buckling down on my job at Nordstrom and actually paying attention so that I can hit top incentive per month, which I've been doing great so far. And also living frugally, meaning I'm only spending money on groceries and just my rent. So I've been trying, but I think I've been doing a great job so far. So what do you need my help with? Honestly, I need you to see if you can call me out on a bull**** or not. It's just especially with the last couple or the last statements I've been sending you.
6:26I just want to see if you can spot the bull**** or if it's actually looked like there's improvement. Well, let's take a look. So we have checking account with. Bustwood the Boys is here to let you know that every college football Saturday, FanDuel's dropping profit boosts that can turn wins into bigger wins. Sounds like we should rename Saturday Booster Day. Nice. 21 plus and present in select states. Opt-in required. Bonus issue does not withdrawable profit boost tokens. Restrictions apply, including any token expiration and max wager amount. See full terms at FanDuel.com slash sportsbook. Gambling problem?
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7:08We started with... This doesn't make sense. So what is this checking account? Okay, so this is my primary checking account, right? So as you can see... And it balanced$2.45. But listen, though, but listen. If you go through the transaction history, majority of that money went into savings account. No, that's fine, but that's still a dangerously low balance to have on our checking account. You have automatic payments, right? Not on my checking, no. Not on my checking. All of my automatic savings are on my credit card, and I use my checking to pay off my credit card. and then whatever I have left on my checking, I normally send that over to my savings.
7:43You don't have auto pays on your credit card of like an auto pay the full balance or anything like that? I do have, okay, so then yes, your credits are. So this is a very dangerous low balance to have. It is, it is. Oh, you want to make a coin on your bull, but there's some bull immediately. I mean, okay. So, yep, there's your deposits. You have some zells coming in, some transfer. You're transferring money in from savings. $109,$87,$26. okay the 109 what day was that$250 okay what days are those because this is in January January 25 30 17 24 17 24 25 30 okay so January I was moving um I was moving to a new apartment so the only funds that I can think of that required me to pull money out of my savings the first one I really hate saying this but I think there's like one for like close to 130 maybe 190 in there Valentine's Day was coming up and I couldn't find my credit cards because I lost pretty much my wallet and I needed cash to um buy some things from my girlfriend so I took some money out of my savings to cover that but then I put it back roughly my next check so the money was back in there um and then I think there's another one in there for like 300 if I'm not mistaken that got fold out that one was towards my brother um he needed help uh he does a little truck driving business or whatnot but he needed help uh with gas but he paid me back literally that same week and that same money went right back into my savings okay yeah you did send out cash of 150 or 180 cash app that one what's the name there should be a name on there i think shul shul dahabo oh dahabo yeah that's my mom uh she needed money um my mom doesn't work and she needed some funds to pay some bills so i gave her what i could how old is she she's almost 70 okay almost 70 she's social security and no um my mom is well so my mom brought us over here so i I was originally born in Kenya.
9:53My mom doesn't have the whole money saved up or anything like that. So it's just me and my siblings that are working. And it's not on me to financially help them, but I help out where I can if I have funds available. So that's where that money went straight to. And Rana Ross? Brianna Ross, my girlfriend. Yes. Okay, you're sending her a good amount. How much was that? $249,$109. The$249. Her side,$149 and then$109. The$149, I know the$249, that was, she needed some help with something. I couldn't remember what it was, but this was towards me when I was moving to my new apartment. She needed help with something, so I gave her that much.
10:33And there was another$149 that was, we split Costco groceries as well. So we used her credit card for it, so I paid her my portion on. So you just gave her some money to help her with something? Yeah, I couldn't tell you what it was. It was a busy month on January. I mean, I don't know, but I mean, you're giving your girlfriend money. Okay. As long as it's just a gift. Yeah. You're not expecting it back? No, no, I'm not expecting it back. No, no. That's not. The rest of the stuff is mostly just like Costco, some gas. There was a U-Haul moving thing, and that's fine. And so most things are good.
11:08I mean, you went out once with this. It was just Wendy's, but then resume now. Are you looking for a new job still already? No. So, like I said, January was a very hard month. I was, yes, looking at a job at the time, but I stopped. And plus, I haven't had a new resume forever. So I just wanted to polish it up a little bit. And resume now, I think, took like a couple dollars. But I gave it back because I forgot to cancel the membership. You sent you in front another$250. And then there was to your mom another$70. And then, yes, a lot of money was sent to the credit cards. I assume that's where a lot of the spending is going to be.
11:45But credit cards, credit cards, credit cards. And then also to your savings. Yeah. But again, dangerously low balance. You started with$89 and ended with$2. I have no explanation for that. I just, I, to be honest, I kind of just wanted to, I don't like seeing money in my check-in because my brain automatically thinks, okay, we have some money, let's spend it. So the savings that you transfer to, is it just a Huntington? It's the same one. I know it sounds dumb, but I've been trying to... But is that the savings that you transferred to? Yes, that's the savings I transferred to. There's only$1 ,644 in there.
12:23It's actually updated right now. Two? Let's look at it. One second.
12:31As of right now, there's$2 ,502 on there. So, okay, it's gone up$900. Roughly, yeah. Okay. Well, that's not an emergency fund. Is this your only savings? Yes. And correct. It's not an emergency fund just yet. Okay. So the goal, you're trying to get to real estate, but you're really far from there. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So, which is why I'm trying to build that money. I thought maybe we were a little closer when you were talking about that. No, no. Like I said, I literally just started getting my shit together in December. I'm like very new at this. So I'm trying to understand a little better. Yeah.
13:04Because clearly you don't fully have your shit together because there's two credit cards it looks like you pay off two capital ones that you pay off but there's definitely a balance being held on the discover card yes that one is a problem card and i'm only saying that because that was my first first ever credit card i got and at the time i didn't really understand how credit cards worked so i tend to hold a balance um i got it down to a very great balance uh of December for like$800. Um, but my birthday was coming around and I will admit to this. I got me a pretty expensive gift, which is starting to pay itself off.
13:45I got myself a MacBook pro cause, um, the one that I had originally got broken due to water damage. So I got a brand new one. And then what happened with this one is I'm using this one to like edit my videos and you make content. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So it's been doing great so far. I managed to on facebook i managed to make roughly six seven hundred dollars back so far within the month and a half that i've been working on making content content are you making so right now i'm just i'm just um solely focusing like on short films so like gym workout videos and stuff and trying to make it like fast but still motivating so i'm just making those type of content as of right now okay yeah now we have two credit cards that you pay off first we're gonna look at those to start with.
14:33So, we're getting$4 ,200 after commission. You know, a lot of that money went out of the checking account, but then we also have purchases of$918. So, almost$1 ,000 on Capital One, Save Your One. Yes. That was around my... And you paid it off, which is good. So, very happy to see that.
14:55Groceries, Wendy's, Ubering, Sunrise, International, and Uber. Mostly Walmarts and stuff. They're really cheap Walmart trips. I'm very curious. Yeah. And multiple on the same days. These, that's, like I said, I was moving in January. So I was just getting a lot of news. Yeah, some pound stuff. BJ's Wholesale Club makes holiday hosting so easy, we called in the ultimate host to talk about it. Mrs. Claus here. You think Santa has it tough delivering all over the world? Try cooking for hundreds of elves. Good thing BJ's offers low prices on all the menu must-haves, plus free same-day delivery on your first order of$100 or more.
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16:10So, good amount of BS spending on here, and then also just some new house spending as well. But we also have that other credit card where you made an additional$500 rounded of purchases. So now like$1 ,500. plus what we saw in the checking account go to things like gas and groceries and stuff like that and here we have some ongoing payments like your t-mobile subscription we have apple payments uh not t-mobile subscription but you know the ongoing payments smith foods pops up crazy amount on every account this is popping up smith's foods this is boom boom boom lots of amazon again then another apple thing and more walmart so i mean you're certainly spending a lot of money yeah yeah it's uh i'm trying to create myself a budget um and this january was not a great time to start for that i think i did a little bit better in february but january was not a good month yeah i think you're like the perfect person that's like built for my new resources section that i've made for everyone so i'll hit you up with some of those either after the video we can talk about them for a second but perfect good budgeting and good stuff like that okay perfect perfect and then the bad card also it says your credit score it's only 606 yeah it went down drastically and that's because of the uh the purchase that i made towards the macbook it um took like when was this the macbook was purchased like december 11th oh jeez yeah dude you only made 650 dollars of purchases of payments and then$7.73 of purchases you made on here.
17:48So interest,$58.18. Total interest charge this year so far,$117. That's what I'm trying to bring about. And this is your Hulu subscription. What I'm confused about immediately is you talk about this, you want to give yourself a 7 out of 10, which makes no sense anymore. Why are you in a position where you're only making$650 payments on a car that has already made you lose over$100 early in this year so far. And yet on this other car, we're going to Wendy's constantly. We're doing Amazon. We're getting things for our new place on Walmart constantly. We're spending all this money, all this bull****, all this crazy stuff.
18:25And we're only putting$650 towards this? Would you put$1 ,500 towards your other two cars that were spent on mostly crap? Okay, so with Discover, yes, I'm trying to pay it off. And yes, I see that the interest is really high. Not trying very hard. Well, I paid the$650. That was one payment. And I also made another payment two days ago for another$250. And I'm making another one again. What's$250 when you're doing$1 ,500 on those other cards? Which are not all groceries or necessities. There's a lot of BS in there that you do not need right now. Need, specifically. You're right. So what? What is this priority?
19:06Is this not a priority to you? are you talking about the discover yeah it is a priority i want to get rid of it but yet again i'm i guess just like anybody else i'm kind of scared in terms of like okay if i put this much money towards it will i have anything in my savings i had a weird mentality is that even just about putting a certain amount of money towards it it's about not putting all that certain amount of money thousand five hundred dollars towards the bs it wasn't all the thousand five hundred dollars towards bs there was some groceries in there but let's just say like even the extra let's just say Only$500, which I'm pretty sure more of it went to things you did not need.
19:39Actually, I promise you. But let's just even say$500 for an example. What if you just cut that and you had an extra$500 to put towards this? This pays it off probably a month and a half earlier at this rate. What's the point? I can't tell you. I don't know. My goal was to pay it off slowly and have it paid off by May. I'm trying right now. like I said I put 250 tours if some put another 250 so I'm trying to put at least 500 tours every month so I can get it down to a zero dollar balance now seeing how it is at a high balance I stopped making purchases on it other than I think the most recent purchase that was like $20 and that was um for my Adobe subscription for Premiere Pro but other than that I'm not making any other purchases on it is the interest I took it off I took it off I switched that over to the saver one seeing how I get cash back on that so there's no other reoccurring purchases on there so this is where i think you should take advantage of a couple things i you know i formed partnerships with good resources and this is where it'd be good for you rocket money would be fantastic for you you know rocket money i haven't heard of them budgeting and it's my favorite that's what i switched over to from mint so rocket money is good you know i'll get you set up with that after this video and then also fizz is another one it's a card that you use where i think you should put the primary spending it's a debit card that one helps you budget it helps you not spend over on certain categories and two it also helps to build the credit score which you will need to for this real estate game you want to get into when you're sitting at 606 a debit card that helps with credit scores it's fantastic so you need to get on both of those immediately okay so i'm not against it i'll definitely get on to it i know right now no no i'm saying i'm not against in the sense like I'm open to suggestions because I never knew that existed.
21:28So right now, my card is going up by another 20 points, but my main priority is trying to get that Discover on, and that sounds like bullsh** to seeing how I've only been putting a small amount of balance. But the way to get there is to budget. The way to stop spending money on all this extra crap is, one, just don't do it, two, budget. Because you clearly just don't know how much is going to there, or if you did, then you would put it towards the Discover card. And if you do know how much money is going there and you're choosing not to put it towards the Discover card, then you're literally just prioritizing Wendy's over your Discover card.
22:01You're right. You're right. So which one is it? I mean, I'm seeing how we're so, like I said, horrible financial decisions that I made. And this is the first time I'm getting my together. Seeing how we are within like this is month three of the new year. I want to get rid of it as soon as possible. And yes, I will stop going to Wendy's for my girlfriend and, you know, start eating in a little bit more. But it's just like one of those things where I just kind of assumed if I can just put like a little 500, maybe 600 here and then it'll go down. And if I just stop making purchases, just kill it.
22:36I can kill it today. I don't know if I'd want you to 100 percent kill it today with because that would be all of your money. Basically, pretty much all of them. Pretty much. And that would put you in a risky situation, which could put you in a worse situation than you're in now. So what I was going to do was, because I'm making a little bit of money from Facebook, I was going to get whatever I get from that because I made the purchase from the Mac Pro. Yeah, absolutely. I was going to put it towards the Discover. Yeah, it's not even a question. Yes. Okay. All of it. How much will that be and when?
23:09Right now, there's a total of$600 that's still pending. Last time I checked, Facebook gets paid out every 20th of each month. Um, let me see. So this is, it's going to be paid out the 23rd of March is when my proceeds get paid out. You want to see it? No. Okay. Good. Then yes, that goes to that. And then from here, you know, I want you to open up an account with Rocket Money. preferably just because that's my favorite but obviously use whatever works for you but that's just my favorite and what i use now and time to budget dude what's your rent on a monthly basis um my rent right now is that 1203 minimum monthly payment on this card is 79 what's your vehicle situation paid off i know what is it though uh it's good 2012 toyota camry Okay.
24:08Yeah. Very cool. How many miles? Like, last time I checked, it was like 150K, but it still runs smooth. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's a pretty good car. Yeah. As far as I understand. I'm not a car person, but as far as I... I only had like one issue, and that was like three years ago. Well, we definitely want you to have an emergency fund for a car, even when it's getting up there. Even if it's a good car, you know, just making sure you're in a safe spot. Of course. Okay. What's your desired grocery spending on a monthly basis? I try to keep it under$300. I feel like$300 is not too much. And then different insurances and stuff like that.
24:49What are they looking like? Insurance right now runs me at like$180. That's your car? Yes. But yet again, it's on my brother's. Health insurance is taking from work? Yeah, it's taking from work. And then your renter's insurance? My renter's insurance. that's through my job and that's at$10. No, no, sorry, not my job. My property management and that's $10. So what's your car insurance one more time? My car insurance runs me at$180, but I split that with my brother. Why do you split it with your brother? Oh, because if I do it myself it's extremely high. Why are you splitting it with your brother?
25:23Do you share the car with your brother? No, no, no. So the car is insured under his name and it's my car and I try to put it under my name and it's like$500 a month just for... Why is he subsidizing you, though? Why is he subsidizing me? Yeah. What do you mean? He's not getting any value of the car. Why is he paying for half the insurance? So I pay for my portion, and he pays for his portion. So my portion is - Why does he have a portion, though? That's what I'm curious. If he doesn't use the car, if he has no ownership on the car, why does he have a portion? I'm going to be honest with you. I honestly don't know.
25:53And I'm only saying that because when I first got the car, in order to get it out the lot, I had to have covered insurance. Yeah, that makes sense. I just don't understand why you're not paying for the full thing. that 180 is the amount that i need to pay so i'm just like all right cool so that's the amount i pay and i pay him that amount so you pay him 90 though i thought you said nine no half of 180 so you pay him half of 180 or is 180 half of it no 180 is half so that's 90 sorry i apologize okay so 180 is half you give him 180 bucks i give him 90 sorry it's a long flight i am so sorry it's a long flight i'm just waking up okay just want to make sure i have your numbers right yeah you got okay so we got rent we got our insurances we got our grocery spending our card spending i'm gonna call it uh total paper money all the extra little things you need give you extra 100 bucks there on a monthly basis gas vegas very car dependent 45 i don't go out a lot.
26:53We'll call it 50. Yep. I feel that might take like once a month. Yeah, car dependency in cities is definitely a tax we don't talk about enough. It's expensive to essentially own a car in order to participate within the American economy, and then gas, and then insurance, and then... Which is why I'm happy that I work from home, because I know that will go very high. Any other monthly expenses? I mean, other than my phone, which is at$106 right now, that's actually getting cut off next month to$30 a month. Your cell service is only going to be$30? I used to work at Walmart, and I got a discount with them on unlimited talk, text, and everything for$30 a month.
27:45Forever? Forever, yeah. As long as I keep the plan rolling, then yeah. So that's getting subsidized for$30 a month next month Alright so we have your necessities At $1 ,852 A month if you actually Follow the strict budgetary Guidelines for Gas for your total Paper spending and For your grocery spending Let's include my Electricity As well That one right now runs me on average let's just say$65 and then internet as well seeing how we're from home that's another $75 and then 65 monthly wise I mean I don't think we should include the gym the gym's only$10 but yeah I mean I think that's a necessity okay so now we have you at$2 ,002 a month check my capital on while you're doing that that's 47 percent of your post tax which if we follow the most basic budgeting guideline of 50 30 20 50 on needs 30 on wants 20 on savings and retirement that 47 is just under 50 well essentially round it to 50 so boom that would literally be everything you just said there.
29:08Again, rent,$1 ,203. Your credit card minimum monthly payment is$79. Your grocery spending,$300. Your insurance of$90. Your total paper spending, anything you need for your place, essentially$100 a month. Gas,$50 a month. Your phone will be$30 a month. And utility, 65. Internet, 75. Jim,$10, which is$2 ,002 on a monthly basis, which is 48 % of your 48 rounded up percent of your post tax, which is 50%. So you did that. Well, what that means, though, is you cannot really increase any of those categories within that budget or else it just becomes too much. Okay. Does that make sense? That makes sense, yeah.
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29:55Now, you can't do it yet, but really this next month, it's as simple as this. You should not go out there once. You should not spend money on fun once at all for the next month. And the remaining$2 ,200 that you get on average should pay off the card, and it's done. It's done. I should hit max incentives, so I'm pretty sure I can pay that off by the end of this month. You should. Just don't have a single ounce of fun or anything until it's paid off. And boom, now it's done. It's done. It's as simple as it's done. That's fantastic. Now, what do you do from there? You can't have fun because you don't have an emergency.
30:32I don't. This is a real good story about Bronx and his dad, Ryan, real United Airlines customers. We were returning home and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Captain Andrew. I got to sit in the driver's seat. I grew up in an aviation family, and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age. That's Andrew, a real United pilot. These small interactions can shape a kid's future. It felt like I was the captain. Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever. That's how good leads the way. An emergency fund is an emergency.
31:05So, again, this is your entire budget that we laid out here. You don't spend money anywhere except for that. You don't. for how long you have two thousand dollars in your emergency fund two five hundred twenty five hundred that's great i say we get you to about with your run situation about fifteen thousand dollars also um i asked i'm adding a little bit more money in there so it should bump me up close of uh thirty five hundred by the end of this month i'm only saying because i didn't pay rent for this month uh march well end of this month we're just gonna talk from today okay following this budget so putting basically two thousand two hundred dollars towards it on a month after this month because everything extra this month is going to paint off that card then it's done okay so in five and a half months of sacrificing completely not spending money on fun go have a lot of free fun i don't care walk on the strip watch drunk people go crazy like that's entertainment that's not a that's not wrong.
32:07A little bit of gas money, but it's free. Okay. And there you go. Five and a half months, you have a fully funded emergency fund, and then we can start talking about saving for retirement, saving for property, and actually, you know, being able to go to Wendy's again, getting things from Amazon again, being able to get nice things from your house for Walmart and stuff like that. But we can't do any of that for the next six and a half months because it's going to take a month to pay off the card and then five and a half to build. the emergency fund does that make sense it makes sense yeah it's extremely doable especially if you talked about being frugal you're not being frugal you talked about wanting to get called down your here's your you weren't budgeting you were being you you started to make some progress but you haven't actually done what's necessary because right now you're in a dire situation where one literally bad thing happens you get laid off or something medical happens to you or anything family members are taking care of your mom essentially if you need to sometimes anything needs to happen you are wiped out you're done you're back into even worse debt exactly which is why i opened my eyes in uh december and i'm glad that i came over because like i said i feel i felt like i was living frugally apparently number wise i'm not living frugally and i'm okay with being called out on my book um it's one of those things where i want to get this done as easily and effectively as possible and like the discover was really pissing me off but yet again i'm 24 years old and i'm making dumb mistakes that's really all it is and i'm trying to get better before i hit 25 so i'm at least in a better situation even if real doesn't work out if that makes sense yeah real estate is gonna take quite a bit on your income yeah what kind of percentage did you want to put down on like on real estate i'm not gonna lie to you um i feel like at best i was gonna look i was looking to put down anywhere from three to seven percent i don't know that number just yet only because i don't i haven't really talked to my mentors and my friends that are in real estate because i wanted to at least come with being prepared well it sounds like you might take advantage of an fha at the lowest and then maybe you'll put down more than that and just have some pmi for a bit when i'm a little nervous with your income right here in what will be what is obviously a trending city in general obviously the market is down right now for real estate because it had a huge boom during the pandemic and you know at some point it's likely to recover i think it's gonna you know gonna be one of the major american cities you know within the next century probably beautiful just where things are looking um four thousand two hundred dollars a month even after your incentives on average yeah that's i think it's gonna be a little bit of a struggle with your needs category and everything saving i don't the only reason i don't feel like it's gonna be much of a struggle and that's only because like i said like with groceries that you saw me paying to my girlfriend stuff like that so we go half on groceries and not only that i can definitely um you know make a shake if i need to yeah but if you were to get even just a basic average place with 20 percent down in Vegas and I know you're not going 20 percent down that's a hundred thousand dollars it's going to take a long time to get to a hundred thousand dollars yeah and that's if you have absolutely no fun well yet again I'm not 100 sure if I'm going to do it in Vegas or if I'm going to do it in Columbus and I'm only saying yet again because it's one of those things where I don't plan on living in Vegas for a long time and not only that I know people that are already in the business in Columbus so they can guide me a little bit better well certainly cheaper there that definitely changes the story yeah that does uh so okay that's fine essentially it just comes down to priorities because right now you also have nothing for retirement right i do i last i checked i think it was close like four thousand okay so you have nothing for retirement okay yeah nothing yeah okay not really you have something but it's just like you know four thousand itself i have no I had no financial literacy before this year.
36:08Most Americans don't. Yeah. So I bumped up my retirement just by 6%, 7 % in December. It helped. And I also did, I was watching one of your videos where you talked about something about like splitting your eggs throughout, across different ventures that you can invest your 401k in. I didn't do it myself. The system has this software where you can split up your retirement into different things. And it helped. I jumped from$2 ,100 up to, well,$2 ,600. Where my main concern is, I would love you to get into the, obviously Columbus will help. I'd love you to get into the real estate game. I'd love anyone and everyone at some point.
36:50As long as you can afford it comfortably. Yeah. And really, your mortgage and taxes and everything combined, if your income stays about the same, cannot be above$1 ,200 a month. And that's hard to find as well, especially not putting 20 % down. So you're going to have PMI, you're going to have extra things. So it's a difficult situation and all. I don't want to be a debit downer. But what also makes me a little nervous is once you get back to fund spending after you save on a purchase of fund, after you pay off the credit card, you're also behind in retirement. And we cannot stay behind in retirement.
37:21You can't just put, oh, you shouldn't just put everything for real estate. That would just be bad because you're not taking advantage of the best decade of your life for compound growth in the overall stock market. Well, it's then divvying up the priorities. But what I'm nervous at, when you divvy up the priorities, not much is going to be going into the stock market and not much is going to be going into the house. This episode is brought to you by NBA On Prime. This Tuesday at 8.30 Eastern, it's the Emirates NBA Cup Championship game On Prime. This year's quest for the cup has been building to this, the championship game, live from Las Vegas.
37:55Not a Prime member? Sign up for a 30-day free trial to get started today. The Emirates NBA Cup Championship Game, this Tuesday at 8.30 Eastern, only on Prime. Restrictions apply. See Amazon.com slash Amazon Prime for details. So it's like we just will barely be making progress in any of them. You might have, the thing is you don't have a, it's not like you have a bad income by any means. You don't have a bad income. But to hit the goals you want to hit at, I think, the pace you want to hit, it might be worth checking out something like Course Careers, which I work with a lot. And a lot of people who have been here have taken advantage of getting certified in a good program and then looking for that$75 ,000,$80 ,000,$90 ,000 a year income, which is really boosting up, finding something that you're interested in.
38:44Because you said you don't even like your job necessarily. No, I don't. But you like the income that we made. But to get closer to your goals, it might just make more sense as a non-married person, as a single household income, to build that income. Okay. I'll say this. Like I said, the whole moving expense got me messed up. But regardless, we're out of there. I'll definitely try out that plan, the one that you wrote right here, and try out that card that you also talked about. because I know credit is a big thing, and I'm working on getting that as high as possible. Right now, I'll definitely cut down on the fund expenses because mainly I stay home for the most part, other than Wendy's, which is my girlfriend, but I can't really blame it on her.
39:35It's more on me because I'm... Yes, it's 100%. Yeah. So I'm going to work on it. I'm going to work on it because I'm trying to hit this emergency fund to 10K as soon as possible. And five and a half months isn't bad at all. 10K? You should go 15K with where your needs are at. 15K? Yeah. Okay. What? That's like another two months? Not bad. Well, I told you. If you do it, it's five and a half months, right? Correct. Isn't that what we had? Yeah. Yeah. So two months. My goal is to get it done by the end of the year, so that's more than enough time. Well, it should be done by the time we're entering fall.
40:12it's doable it's really doable it is doable mathematically emotionally can you will you I can surprise you I can surprise you I would just we just gotta find out that's all I can I wouldn't be surprised if you if you did well honestly I feel like you're someone that could it's just being able to actually budget just getting the discipline down that is necessary is like the first step so that's where you take advantage of something like Rock and Roll okay So the median sales price in Columbus, though falling, or it's fallen a little bit, and below the national average, 40 % below the national average.
40:52Is that a good thing or bad? I mean, it's just a mid-size Midwestern city. It's not going to be super expensive. I own a rental property in my hometown of Kalamazoo, Michigan. And it's not bad that it's cheaper. But$230 ,000, let's say you just even put 10 % down. Oh, I mean, that's easy math. That's$23 ,000. How long is it going to take you to get to$23 ,000 if off of$4 ,200, you spend half of it on needs, you're going to have some wants because wants exists. But let's say you do your wants at 20 % and saving at 30%. Where does that keep us? So you need$23 ,000 to put just 10 % down. I would rather you do 20%, but 10 % down.
41:33So that's$1 ,260 a month, which would be good, but that's if you're putting all that towards the house. So really, you'd probably be putting half of it towards the house, half of it towards like a Roth IRA. Okay. Because, again, you're falling behind in there. So that's$630 a month. So at$23 ,000, that's 37 months. or three years and that's not terrible but i can tell in your eyes and your reaction there you want this all to be a lot quicker than it's actually going to be not really because i'm gonna be honest i'm not worried so much about the time because i'm because right now i'm being realistic can happen tomorrow where it's actually going to cost me a lot of money to like repair or fix i'm looking at it more in the perspective of okay well if it's going to take me three years to get to these goals, where can I cut out some fun or maybe some necessities that aren't really necessities?
42:34Now, remember what we did here is we switched your fun and savings categories. So you're actually putting 30 % towards savings. This is with 30%. If you did 20%, this would probably be like four or five years. Okay. So this is where you really budget and prioritize. And that's why I think to get to your goals where you want to get... Saving for three years to get a house, that is not a bad thing. That is not a bad thing. That's actually a really good timeline. I can just tell with the speed you want to get to some things. I think increasing your income is going to be a big player. Because your rent is not crazy for a place like Las Vegas.
43:07No, it's not. Your grocery spending is not crazy. Your car insurance is not crazy. Your gas is low. Your phone bill is going to be, or your cell coverage is very low. Your utilities are fine. Your internet's normal. All these things are normal for where you're living and where you are in life. It comes down to where you prioritize your money and how much money you bring in at that point. And that's what I'm saying. So right now with me getting into the whole Facebook bonus program, which is why I'm very excited because my income is getting better. But if I don't have any financial literacy, it's just going to be another income that I spend down the drain.
43:41So right now, I'm not really worried about it taking me three years. I also got accepted into YouTube's program as well. So it's just a matter of working hard and I can... His YouTube is linked in the description below. Thank you. So right now, best case scenario will take me two years. Worst case scenario, three and a half years. And either or sounds still great because I'm going three years off of that. Three years off of that, but there's also saving up for the emergency fund and saving up for... You'll want a little more money than that, too, for closing costs and stuff like that. And also paying off the card.
44:18I think realistically, we're looking more four years, but... Okay. Which is still not bad because I'm trying to do all this before 30. if that's your timeline then you're on a good track for it you just have the budget that's where i want you to get with rocking money and also i want you to have a better credit score and actually manage your spending so i think that's where fizz is good for you as well okay so i will set you up with those and thank you that's that will be good because we need to get your credit score up in order because you're going to take out leverage on this house and you don't want good credit to get the best interest at the time of this hopefully interest rates will be in a better place by the way by the time you're three four years from now when you're actually doing this but let's build the credit from there paying off this credit card is gonna help with the credit score okay immensely all right i'll get it done by the end of the month get it done by the end of the month just follow this budget maybe increase your income that's up to you yeah but definitely follow the budget figure out what your priorities are make sure you're investing into like a Roth IRA, stuff like that as well.
45:21I have one, but I haven't really touched it. I know it's time to though. Yeah. I have it on a Robin hood, but I didn't know what, not what to do, but what's like the appropriate amount to put in with the income that I'm making. Cause I'm already putting amount for the Roth IRA for anyone as, as much as they can and trying to max it out at$6 ,500 a year. Are you the proper amount of$6 ,500 a year? Okay. Easily. All right. Okay. All right. I think I can do that once I get my shit together. Yeah. Clean it all up. You'll start that in about six months, six and a half months. Okay. Not bad. Will you actually follow the budget?
45:54Will you actually do all this? Will this actually work out? Yeah. Yeah. I have no doubt. I really am doing better so far. So in six and a half months, then we're going to talk and the credit card will be down. You have$15 ,000 in the emergency fund and you will start saving and investing. Correct? I'll have the credit card down. Correct. $15 ,000. We'll get very close to that for sure. I'm being realistic I'm being realistic myself Why? What's realistic versus what I talked about? I'm saying realistic Because I'm thinking in the sense that Anything could happen but I know for a fact I'll be over 10k if not At 15 I'll definitely be over 10k For sure You're right things happen the only thing that will Excuse it for me are like actual Emergencies actual emergencies but not Wants I will not excuse wants not a single want and I can I can take up on that that's fine then we will see in about six and a half months gorgeous alright that works for me for Jamal he thought he was going to be a seven out of ten for the hammer financial score but actively choosing to put fun over paying off the credit card faster not having even close to a fully funded emergency fund and pretty much having nothing saved for retirement at this point he's going to have to be about a four out of ten right now so check out all the fun things in the description like the resources I mentioned and my Instagram and Twitter Don't forget to subscribe.
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