Where Is My Money Going? Real Budget Coaching + Fixes That Work | 512

10 Jan 2026 · 54 min · 30 chapters

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In short

The episode teaches “real budget coaching” for women using a system that shows where money goes monthly, reduces reliance on credit cards, and makes debt payoff sustainable while still allowing “bougie on a budget.” It emphasizes using separate accounts (bills, spending, savings buckets), re-quoting recurring expenses (insurance, phone/internet), and planning annual bills and sinking funds as true savings buckets.

Guests

No external guests appear in the transcript. Hosts are Shana and Vanessa, best friends/business partners and Dave Ramsey-trained master financial coaches (in business since 2019). Several audience members are featured as “fun friends” for budget makeovers: Jay, Rhonda, Eileen, and Janet (names as spoken).

Key claims

“Payoff debt” should not mean living on rice and beans; budgets should be built around monthly cash flow (not just paycheck-by-paycheck); “miscellaneous” categories hide problems; subscriptions and recurring charges should be categorized; savings buckets prevent “in-the-moment” overspending.

Notable examples

Jay’s budget makeover reduces anime-convention savings from $900/month to ~$250–$400/month; Rhonda’s gym/dance moved to bills; Eileen’s confusion comes from “leftover” vs real timing and too many “static bills”; Janet’s “where did my money go?” is answered by viewing totals and separating subscriptions and spending.

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Chapters

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Identifying Financial Goals

1:14 to 1:48

Hosts engage listeners by prompting them to share their financial goals.

“We've already asked you actually quite a few questions, but what we want to know right now is if you could accomplish one goal this year, what would it be?”

Understanding Debt and Budgeting

1:48 to 2:55

Discussion on the importance of addressing debt while creating a sustainable budget.

“And we didn't talk about it in this thing because we do come from our buddy who doesn't know that we're best days, Mr.”

Tips for Lowering Monthly Expenses

2:55 to 4:17

Advice on negotiating bills and lowering monthly expenses.

“And here's the other part is we know we're not dismissing debt.”

Budget Review: Jay's Financial Makeover

4:17 to 5:30

Hosts review and provide feedback on a listener's budget, highlighting areas for improvement.

“And I think we never even had a chance to talk about doing those, making those phone conversations, right?”

Jay's Spending Insights and Recommendations

5:30 to 6:50

Discussion on Jay's spending habits and suggestions for improvement.

“Nobody put in the chat what they found about with their annual bills.”

Addressing Future Financial Goals

6:50 to 8:10

Hosts discuss how to prioritize future financial goals and manage current expenses.

“But yes, that was the big takeaway here with your budget, Jay, is you are doing it by paycheck, which is great, but we like to look at it and see what's possible monthly.”

Rhonda's Budget Review

8:10 to 9:38

Hosts analyze and provide input on another listener's budget, focusing on clarity and categorization.

“Feel free to answer in the, in the chat to help us out.”

Budgeting Basics with Rhonda

14:01 to 17:46

Learn how to categorize spending and identify recurring expenses in budgeting.

“purpose so that we have it and to toward different savings buckets.”

Eileen's Budget Breakdown

17:47 to 20:04

Discover how to analyze a budget that seems confusing and make it workable.

“If I, her basic budget, oops, did I, what I took the savings off somehow.”

Creating an Effective Future Budget

20:05 to 22:24

Understand how to prepare for future expenses by structuring your budget correctly.

“You have one car payment due in a month.”
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Janet's Financial Overview

22:25 to 25:38

Evaluate a budget to identify income, expenses, and where money is allocated.

“Babs, if the budget is too small to read, sorry, I got distracted.”

Final Thoughts on Budgeting

25:39 to 28:00

Wrap up with important considerations for customizing budgets to fit personal needs.

“So Venmo is listed as a negative thing on her budget where if you make money, then that goes into your income from Venmo.”

Budget Structure Explained

28:00 to 28:20

Learn why the current budgeting method works and how to maintain it.

“You can't really see what's happening or what you want to have happen in those other budgets.”

Effective Spending Management

28:20 to 29:00

Discuss how to manage spending money effectively within a budget.

“That's usually always been sufficient for us.”

Creating Medical Spending Accounts

29:00 to 29:50

Understand the importance of setting up dedicated accounts for medical expenses.

“But what's miscellaneous, you guys, which what's missing from this is she has no spending money.”

Allocating Funds Purposefully

29:50 to 30:20

Learn how to allocate your budget to different categories purposefully.

“Like all of that is out of your bills account.”

Transforming Miscellaneous Spending

30:20 to 31:30

Explore the dangers of vague spending categories and how to avoid them.

“So then what, then she's saving some money.”

The Role of Budget Categories

31:30 to 32:40

Understand the significance of specific budget categories for better tracking.

“And she still has, like I said, 500 that she could put on debt or if paying off debt, isn't really her goal.”

Budget System Overview

32:40 to 33:50

Get an overview of the budgeting system and its components.

“Let's start putting money in places on purpose.”

Exploring Budget Features

34:30 to 36:50

Dive into the specific features of the budgeting system and how they help users.

“setting up your budget, your bills, account, spending, savings, automations, like all of it.”

Overcoming Budgeting Objections

36:50 to 38:10

Address common objections to budgeting and how to overcome them.

“The other stuff is when you feel really comfortable.”

Investment in Budgeting System

38:10 to 39:20

Learn why investing in a budgeting system is crucial for financial health.

“So the alternative is to keep doing what you're doing, like that paycheck.”

Private Coaching Offer

39:20 to 39:50

Discover the benefits of personalized financial coaching services.

“I want you to look at my specific situation and I want you to, to work with me for six months to be invested in my family.”

Q&A and Budget Review

39:50 to 42:01

Engage in a Q&A session and review submitted budgets for clarity and insight.

“We can answer your specific questions about you budgeting, about you setting up the system, about buying the system, whatever questions you have, put them in the chat right now.”

Implementing the Paycheck Plan

42:01 to 43:45

Learn how to effectively use the paycheck plan for budgeting and cash management.

“And so then you're going to go to the paycheck plan here, change the cash, and you're just going to get the money out.”

Self-Employment Budgeting Tips

43:46 to 45:24

Explore strategies for self-employed individuals on managing their income and expenses.

“This is a more complicated budget, but we could show you how that would look if we had a little bit more time.”

Childcare Payments and Budgeting

45:25 to 47:20

Discuss how to handle childcare payments within your budgeting system.

“or we do once a month, at the end of the month, Vanessa sets all of our stuff up to go for the first and she's done with the business.”

Managing Weekly Expenses

47:21 to 49:08

Understand how to keep track of weekly expenses and adapt your budget accordingly.

“Do you recommend the practice of checking off bills on a monthly basis?”

Reconciliation and Adjusting Budgets

49:09 to 50:58

Learn about the importance of reconciling your budget at the end of the month.

“for your business, but you want to pay it, you need to have a checking account where you're funding it.”

Winner Announcements and Closing Remarks

50:59 to 52:51

Celebrate winners and wrap up the session with final thoughts and encouragement.

“So you had to have had the money in the account.”
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Transcript

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0:00Do you make good money but have nothing to show for it? Are you tired of living paycheck to paycheck? Do you have big dreams for your financial future? Do you want to get debt-free, but you don't want to live on beans and rice? Or you don't want to give up those pumpkin spice lattes? Hey, it's okay if you don't already know how to budget, or if you're using credit cards to get through the money. Hey, it's okay if you want to seem like you have your finances all together, or you're not on the same page with your spouse when it comes to finances. We know what you're doing probably isn't working, but guess what?

0:28You're in the right place. We're Shana and Vanessa. We're best friends, business partners, and master financial coaches trained by Dave Ramsey. We've been in business since 2019, helping hundreds of amazing people like you create budgets, get out of debt, stop living paycheck to paycheck, and know exactly what to do with their money. In this podcast, we'll share with you everything we know plus everything we're working on with our clients so that you have the best chance at reaching your financial goals. We want to help you take the guesswork out of your budget, improve your marriages, and even bring your kids in on the conversation.

1:00We can help you no matter where you're at, whether you're the single mom who's never had$500 in her savings account or the millionaire who's paid off four real estate mortgages. And we're not going to shy away from the tough love. We'll tell you what you need to hear and encourage you at the same time. This is the Financial Coaching for Women podcast. Okay, here's our first question. We've already asked you actually quite a few questions, but what we want to know right now is if you could accomplish one goal this year, what would it be? Throw it in the chat. Let us know. Let us know. Claire, you said you're so proud of yourself for getting things in order.

1:30Yes, you should be. It takes a minute, right? And again, take all the data out of it or the drama out of it. It's just data. Pay off debt. This is what we're seeing a lot, Shayna. Pay off debt. Finally sticking to a budget. Not using my credit. $6 ,000 left, Sarah. Is that you? I think it was Sarah. Finally sticking to a budget. Yes, girl. Downsize my house. That's a big one. we should chat have a whole life experience about that plan a trip to Disney Kristen yeah so Vanessa's chat is paying off our mortgage minus let's plan your trip to Disney okay stay within my budget okay you guys so you know what Vanessa and I went on a walk after yesterday and we talked about how we we don't specifically like target talking about paying off debt.

2:19And we didn't talk about it in this thing because we do come from our buddy who doesn't know that we're best days, Mr. Dave Ramsey, but we have a completely different take on it. And, but you guys come to us about wanting to pay. So we totally get it. We, we have lots of resources in our course that comes with a budget for that purpose, because it is, we know it's a big goal for you. And hopefully you're coming to us because thank you, coffee delivery service guys, it's coffee and chat. So Vanessa doesn't drink coffee, but I have my beautiful Iwala. Please tell me I'm very excited about my water.

2:50Okay. Yes. But yeah, so we do, we want you to be able to be bougie on a budget while you're paying off debt. And here's the other part is we know we're not dismissing debt. Like, I don't want you to think like we don't talk about it. So it's not important. And we don't think that it's a burden. We know that it's a burden. It's a huge part of your budget. It's a huge part of your decision-making. We just want to make sure that you're doing it in a way that serves you well. We don't want you to go into this. So gazelle intense and living on rice and beans that in three months you check out and you're done.

3:17and then you go in the complete opposite direction and you wanna do something different, right? So our goal for you is to be able to make a sustainable budget that you are living your life, you're being bougie in your version of bougie, you're being able, you're able to save for your annual bills and you're able to pay off debt at the same time. Yep, okay, I'm looking at Linda and she, cause you guys did your homework. She said what she learned from the homework is she needs to shop around her insurances, currently paying almost$1 ,000 per month in total insurance premiums, yes. Yes. And so that's actually one of the, in the, one of the bonuses that we'll get to later.

3:49It's our coaching guide. So we basically took, I don't know, 49 specifically, 49 of the most common action items we put in recaps for our clients and we giving it to you that way you feel like you have a coach along with you. And, and one of them is to re one of those steps is to re quote your insurance, re quote, quote, your audit, your phone, stuff like that, your internet. That way you can see if you can get those bills to be lower can make a big difference in your budget. Yeah. I was just doing a coaching session the other day. And I think we never even had a chance to talk about doing those, making those phone conversations, right?

4:25Having those conversations with your creditors, small little things that you don't know that you can do calling your auto insurance, calling your homeowner's insurance. How many of you guys have your homeowner's insurance wrapped up in escrow? And listen, they do this on purpose. They want you to forget about it. And so you never ask questions and then it slowly grows over time and you now you're paying double for your homeowner's insurance. So we just want you to think about what can you re-quote? What can you have conversation? How can you have these conversations with people to be able to lower what you're paying every month?

4:54Okay. All right. So I love it. All right. We're going to, so what we're going to do right now, we're going to go through a couple budgets that we've quote unquote made over for you. And we're going to answer the questions that they have. Then we're going to go through a few more questions and we're going to show you about the budget. If you don't know about it, then we're going to answer your specific budget questions. And then we're going to do the giveaways. And I answered it in the chat, but anybody who's bought the budget, who's here today, you're eligible. It doesn't have to be this week.

5:19We really appreciate it. And some people have a good time with coaching. You guys could be those people. Yes. Yes. Here's the plan. You guys already talked a little bit about your homework. Good job. The bills account is a great first start. Yeah. Nobody put in the chat what they found about with their annual bills. I hope you guys maybe found a reasonable number that you didn't think that was possible that now you can add to your budget monthly and know that you're saving every single month for your annual bills. So that way they're paid for. Yep. All right. So let's talk about this first budget makeover.

5:50Okay. This is our fun friend, Jay. Jay, are you here? I want to, I need to look at, how can I tell if you're here? You should be here, Jay, because every once in a while, every, like you could be our next guy. Oh, he is here. Aaron was last year. Okay. actually Aaron Aaron texted me yesterday he probably did to you why he couldn't be here this month this year but he was here last year but now we have Jay so he can be our resident cool guy oh which Jay is there two J's Jay did you submit your budget because we're guessing there's not more than one if you are Jay and you submitted your budget in our form that we're talking to you but we want it so this is the makeover so the before right you can tell which one's the before maybe I'm not sure but so if you can see he's doing it by paycheck right right, Shana?

6:31Yeah. Is that, do we love that? It's also really texty. For a budget, there's not a lot of numbers. There's not even any HTML, right? With the HTML. Yeah. There's no fun font. It's just. Yeah. No, it's literally like the most basic, the original font that came when computers were invented. That's what's happening, which is fine. Love it. A minimalist vibe. But yes, that was the big takeaway here with your budget, Jay, is you are doing it by paycheck, which is great, but we like to look at it and see what's possible monthly. And you're doing a great job. Jay's question was, is he hard on himself?

7:03Yes, you are. You're doing a great job. Right now, the problem, and we're going to show you when we go into it, is he's trying to catch up, right? Let's see what happens when I do this. Fun times. All right. So let's just take a look real quick at Jay. The cool thing about Jay, he's working two jobs. He's got goals. Good job, Jay. And we also happen to know that he is contributing 8 % to his 401k and his company is matching 4%. I know we're always going to be for that. Great job. So good job, Jay. First of all, we think this is what's happening with your debt. So with your super fun text budget, it's a little hard to tell.

7:39Right. So we were, all we could do was copy the words that we saw on there. You had your student loans, which you paid every single week, every time you got paid. And that total ended up being$927 and five cents for the month. Don't forget about that. Five cents girl. Got to get that. Yeah. Got to get that. And then the, it said current card balance. So I don't know if Jay were using our card and then throughout the month as we use it at the end, like then that's the card balance, the current card balance or available, not available balance, but yeah, whatever's charged on there. And so that's what you pay.

8:09Not sure. Please answer in that. Feel free to answer in the, in the chat to help us out. But yeah, that's what we have. So those are the only two debts that we listed. And then as we, we went to your bills, we saw that you combined, like you compound your utilities or you had water bill, your, I'm sorry, your water, your cable, your insurance, your gas, all of that. that mixed together. Yeah. And so the bills, you're splitting that with the household, which is great, but your bills are not very hefty. So that's great. That storage shed. Yeah. That's a very, that's a great point, Vanessa. We don't love storage units.

8:41We don't love them. Find a way to not have one there. Problem solved. It might be all of his anime stuff because my son needs his every, not that you're, he's much older than my son, but it's just like, I see him in the future. like he has every dnd thing every all the things i'm like where are legos like where is that eventually going to go in a storage shed maybe however even though we don't love storage sheds it's a bill you're paying someone to store your stuff no thank you that's a very high storage shed so you can re-quote those too say oh i'm gonna quit and they're gonna be like are you and then they'll give you a better a better thing anyway yeah all right food and gas very reasonable you know what's not reasonable on that budget you're 40 spending jay yes you're being hard on yourself.

9:23No, sir. Yes. You need to increase that. That is not okay. Your sweet little message that you wrote in the forum about just trying to get a little bit of money here and there, 20 bucks. I think you said to be able to spend yourself, like you need to have a little bit more, you work really hard for your money. Let's give yourself some wiggle room in your spending section. Yeah. So Jay, somebody asked in the, he has no mortgage. No, he pays all the bills and the other person in the house pays all of the rent or pays the mortgage or whatever. So that's great. All right. Then we try to figure out, look at this guys.

9:49This is the boy version of bougie on a budget. He's look, these are non-negotiable. We are saving for these anime conventions. The problem here is that we're$900. It's$900. So we're saving for them right now as much as possible. We don't know. Jay, actually you're here, friend. Tell us when these are. Like, are they this month? Are they next month? Because you're going hard and heavy on that. So we'll show you what we came up with. But here he's got savings for a new car. That's really not going to get you like anywhere with that. Taxes in April. We think that you're hopefully saving in the moment to pay your taxes, pay someone to do your taxes.

10:24And again, like Vanessa said, we are going to show you how we would spread this out. New phone, again,$10. You'll get a new phone in three years probably. But then the vehicle, this is his vehicle maintenance savings account. I think he had like car tags and something else there, oral changes, maybe. I'm not really sure. So we just coupled it to a vehicle. Yeah. And that's reasonable, right? The amount of money that you need every month to be able to maybe maintain your vehicle, that's fine. But as far as the new car and the new phone, when you're trying to save a hefty amount of money for something, we'd say, let's just bulk that somewhere else.

10:53And then you can come back to that at a later date. Cause Shayna said, you're not going to go anywhere with that within the couple of months or even six months. So you can put that towards your debt or you can put that towards something else and you'll get there further faster. Yeah. So I'm going to say future here because Jay did say Vanessa, one is in May and the other is in August. Because of that, we can, we would change this number a little bit, but what we want you to do is first of all, we do want to tell you, yes, you're being hard on yourself, friend, you make money. You need to have a little little bit of suspend.

11:17You shouldn't feel the pressure. You're doing a great job with 8%. That's where most of your savings going right now until you get these student loans paid off. But what you can do is, and this might be a little under since we have to get a whole, all of it paid for. So you can even take that to$400 and you'd still have, but we, you don't need to do every last dollar drop of dollar going to anime. We can get to the point where you're going to be able to pay for those conventions in the moment without having to kill yourself each month. I think you said originally it was 3000, right? So we took 3000 divided by 12 and it ended up being that$250 a month.

11:46So when you get to the point where you can save 12 months for that, it's really going to allow the cushion in your budget that you want. But Shana said, even if you need to bump it up to$400, that's still less than half of what you had before. So it's going to allow your money to do so much more. Yeah. And so that's going to allow you to get there by August to have that full amount. So what we would do also is put a more realistic amount for the new car. If that's actually something you're trying to do, let's start putting some money in there. The taxes in April, if we're saving, like you might have to scrunch right now scrunch is a word to get it but if we're saving all year round then we can lower that amount that's the point of savings buckets it's taking this huge expense and kind of divvying it out throughout the year the other thing he said he uses turbo tax guys that's expensive it was like 560 bucks or something it's what we added that you're trying to save no i don't feel i feel like you have a very you almost could do it yourself and you could do it if you're if your income is this simple i know you have a head household thing that might be going on i feel like it's you should be able to get a little less.

12:43Yeah. If you don't have a business and you don't have like lots of dividends or investments and things like that, you guys can be able to, you should be able to do it on your own. And there's so many resources, so many free things out there to help you be able to file your taxes and save a lot of money. Yeah. And so this is what we would say, Jay, is keep going hard. You're doing great with the investing. You want to pay off your student loans, but you don't want to do it at the rate that you feel like you have no money and you're, especially you're working two jobs. Let's like just off the throttle just a little bit and give yourself a little wiggle room.

13:13You can still do the things you like, still save for the things that are important that are coming up, but you can have a little bit more fun in your actual life if you want. Yeah. I think that's just going to, it's just going to make you feel a little bit more free today. Good job, Jay. Thanks for, and if you have any questions and we didn't answer them, save those for the end. Great job. All right. Next up, it's our fun friend. I think this is Rhonda. Was this Rhonda? Is this Rhonda? Rhonda, are you here? Where did the credit card debt go? Oh, that's a great question, Kara. What we assumed - We didn't know what that was.

13:43Yeah. We assumed he's paying in the moment for things that he's charging to it. So we said, we're not charging to the card anymore. Yeah. Let's actually give you some spending money that you can use each month to do instead of feeling like you have to put it on the card and figure out if you can pay it off whenever or at the end of the month. So let's pay that off. It looked like that's what he was doing. And then now we're allocating money towards spending on purpose so that we have it and to toward different savings buckets. So that way he doesn't have to rely on debt. Okay. Great question, Kara.

14:09Thank you. All right. You said that we think this is Rhonda, our fun friend, Rhonda. I think it's our fun friend, Rhonda. Look at her pretty budget. Like she tried. I know. Yeah. All right. And let's see here. So we helped Rhonda out and she had a pretty much going on already. We put the income in there. She has a car loan. You guys welcome to all of our lives. She has bills. The one thing that we did do different is we moved over her gym and dance class we put those as a bill so if you looked at the before go ahead vanessa um she had it as yes she had it as spending and she had it in her wellness section like her wellness beauty section for gym which i totally understand why you would categorize that but again we try to separate spending is discretionary it's things that you just do randomly here and there throughout the month if you're getting charged for a gym membership you're getting charged for dance classes those are reoccurring then they go in your monthly bills yeah and wasn't let me just look real quick Like, wasn't her question?

15:04She wanted reassurance. Reassurance. Yeah. Yeah, it does look good. And she's doing a lot already correctly. Like, she's got her spending account. She's got her bills. So it looks really good. The only things, like, so we're just going to fast forward because you are doing great. The only thing that we, like Vanessa said, that we said is look at, you can, we like to see what you're paying for subscriptions separately. So we put those down to just understand. Not a bad thing, but you're paying. But okay, these are not exactly subscriptions. Hold on. So we grabbed too many lines. Yes. All right.

15:34Just so you can see them all at one place. And sometimes I tell people, and this might not be true for you, but sometimes I tell people like, do you really have enough time to watch all of this TV that you have here? I don't know. Maybe you do. It's fine. But let's be realistic about that. And then we got our bills coming out of there. That way she can pay them without ever having to think, like Vanessa said. But this is actually your spending budget. And we would suggest, and look, love this Friday night poker. That's so fun. Takes her a little 10 bucks in. They have a good time. Yeah. This is what it looks like.

16:01This is pretty close to what she already had. The only difference we would say is we're wondering, Rhonda, are you here? I don't know if she's here. I don't think she's here. We don't know about this car payoff fund. We're really. That becomes an extra on debt line in your debt tracker. And then you just pay the thing. You don't need an extra account for that. Just pay it. You really don't. And I don't. What would even be the purpose of having an extra account? So I know why people do it. People do it to pool the money just in case something else happens throughout the month that they use the money for, Shana?

16:29And then that it goes to that. Oh, it's like, oh, okay. That's why we want you to do it. Even what we would probably say is, first of all, sinking fund is not a thing. What are you saving for? We want to know specifically. So Christmas, birthdays, what are you doing, Rhonda, where you're pulling from that amount? And then we would do this on purpose, maybe like annual bills. And this is why we have you do extra on debt in the month because otherwise you won't. So then on payday, do 500, let's say. And, and after, you know, the, all your savings buckets are taken care of on payday, you're doing 500 or whatever it is that ends up where that you actually divided by two.

17:06Yeah. And if you want to save more because you're pulling from it every month, do that on purpose. Don't do it. Like maybe I'll pay extra on my car. Or if you want to, if you fill out all of these and they're all dreamy and great, and then you only have$200 extra to pay on your car. Then fine. Yeah, that's fine. The goal here is to find a consistent budget that you're happy with, that you're comfortable with that you're not pulling and robbing Peter to pay Paul and say, okay, after making this, I'm saving for annual bills. I'm saving for gifts. Cause that's really important to me. I'm saving for, I don't know, our travel trip that we have coming up in a couple of months.

17:38I know comfortably I can, I can put a thousand dollars on my extra on extra on debt every single month, all the time. That's what we want to do. All right. So that, but otherwise somebody did say right on the number. Yeah. Good job. She's doing a good job. If I, her basic budget, oops, did I, what I took the savings off somehow. It's fine. But she was 55 over and she was just letting that roll. And that's correct. Got a really good she's got and she's got the system. She's got the accounts. She's got the bills, the spending. So good job. All right. Let's see what the next one is, you guys. Let's see.

18:10Okay, now I okay, can I tell you guys a secret, Vanessa, true or false? Every time I'm like Target or Walmart, and I see one of these little notebooks, do I not send you a little picture? I always text you a picture of it. I'm like, look at this. And here's the thing. Remember, we've told you, we built our budget to really hopefully make a lot of sense immediately. It should just instantly make sense. Because this budget doesn't make sense, our fun friend, what was her name? I think this is Eileen. Eileen. Is this Eileen? Okay. Our fun friend Eileen, are you here? Our fun friend Eileen has a bunch of stuff over there.

18:45It literally says, you guys, savings goals left over. And then she's got like Christmas and Thanksgiving. This doesn't even make sense to me. Like the, not her, the tracker or the page itself. Like I can't. Can I also, can we, like you only get to have eight, what is that? Eight variable expenses because Christmas and Thanksgiving are not really variable, but whatever you want to call it, that's actually spending. Yeah. Like she spent that money in the month and it goes over. It's not like leftover. It's on purpose. And I'm going to spend it, especially the same with the ER. It's fine. We're getting in the weeds here.

19:15Don't love this. Plus we don't love it. It's not great. Okay. It's better than nothing. Great job. It is better than anything. Oh, wait. We had a fun time transferring it into ours. Hold on. What did she say? She's horrible at math. No way. Putting. Okay. Yeah. This is the one that was separate. Yeah. So the first thing to do is she said that her and her husband don't combine, really combine finances. The first thing to do is put it on paper combined and look at it together. Even if you don't already do it, let's at least look at it and see what happens. How much do we make? So here they have their paychecks.

19:45So that's why it didn't work because we don't have his paycheck in there. And again, we tried, I think she did it by paycheck. That sheet was by paycheck. So we were trying to figure out what was doubled because some of it was doubled. Some of it was full month. So we were trying to figure out what was going on. Yeah. And that's why it's so important. You guys, you're yes. Some stuff may happen naturally by paycheck, but that's not, that's just going to be a by-product, but you want to look at what does my money do in a month? You have one car payment due in a month. You have one mortgage due in a month.

20:10You have a basic amount of groceries due in a month. So I want to, we want to look at the month and then let the money flow from there. I love Mary said, she tried to use that budget too. And she said, it was hard. That's why I'm here. Yeah. Okay. mary it's hard for us more coffee my brain yeah our brains computes like this this is what we use i feel like i wanted to get like some tylenol some glasses like a magnifying glass like if you look at it closer it will help we should have b-roll filming while we were going through all the first part of that would have been my husband coming in being like why do you even have chairs because we're laying on the floor on our bellies okay guys sorry we got off on a tangent love you guys love us okay so she has a we believe so if you go back and look over here you guys she had what does she have here bank of america 500 paid we don't know what's happening which we know that it's not the actual payment yeah so we put a minimum payment here and her rav4 her cool rav4 here's her bills there's just a line called bills yes she didn't list any out you don't know what they are but she it says she transferred it so we think i don't know if eileen is here he has a bill she has a bills account which is great groceries eating out kiko do you think kiko is her kid it could be a cat or it's a hair kiko has hair oh maybe it's a grooming or daughter.

21:19I think it's a daughter. You go, whatever you guys, does it matter? Okay. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Oh, ER. They had an ER. So yes, probably. So she put all of this. Remember, let's go back to this fun paycheck budget pool boy. All of this was leftover. No, this is actually, it's not leftover. This is happening. If you're going to the ER, it's happening beforehand. It's not leftover. It's like right now I'm going to the ER. I'm spending this money anyway. So it's underspending. Okay. And then savings. We think she's trying to save all of her money for her insurance that hopefully if it's her and her daughter, maybe a husband, I'm not sure.

21:54Hopefully that is a six month premium. So that's what we were given. She did have insurance on there three times. So we're trying to figure out what was going on. And that's, this is the conclusion that we came with, but listen, we made a future budget for her. We made like the future Eileen. This is what it's going to look like eventually. So what we did was again, we put that$25 payment for Bank of America, we put extra on debt to show that's what she wanted to do like in full. And then we took her annual bills down and say, if we were to save your annual bills on a monthly basis versus in the moment, that would also help.

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22:24Okay. Babs, if the budget is too small to read, sorry, I got distracted. You guys got me distracted. I'm sorry, but just make it go to the percentage here. Look, this is, we do this all the time. Boom, baby. Just make it. And as big as you want. Yeah. As big as you want. And then, and I just want to answer this real quick because Susan asked are all and we did. This is a new concept. We get it. But yes, all of these accounts are all of these are different accounts. Miscellaneous not I don't even know what that is. We're going to talk about that. But gas and groceries, that would be one account dining out is an account.

22:55Maybe if her kid has one, it's an account she should have spending here. That's actually what miscellaneous probably is. Those are all separate accounts as are her annual bills, medical holidays and glam up. Those are all going to be and so what we're doing for her is we're saying we're going to start saving in case we have to go back to the ER in case we have deductibles, copays, prescriptions, because that's one of the line items we saw on her budget. The same for the holidays. She had Christmas and Thanksgiving. She had that spinning in the moment, which is fine. That's where you start. But we want to start if we can, now that it's January, can we start a holiday savings bucket and just start putting that money over here according to your budget?

23:27And she has Costco there. So technically that would also be with gas and groceries if that's what she's getting in there is is household items and grocery items yeah so yeah the way I do my budget is like I put open lines in between every account so that way I can see it this one again we were just trying to copy and paste and go this is what they have this is how we would transfer it over and this is how it looked like on our budget and then the other thing I did want to say is Kiko's hair so theoretically Kiko's hair is more than once a year so whatever that amount you would go in we don't have it shown up here but in our savings bucket planner that's part of this, go in there and say how many times you go to a year.

24:02And it's going to tell you how to break it out. Theoretically 40 bucks a month. If they put that aside, then anytime she needs to go get her hair done, they'll have the money there for it. Yeah. Okay. Let's see what else you guys, what happened? Okay. Okay. This was a fun time. This was a fun time. First of all, it's not bad, but it is though. If you zoom in, you guys, yeah, we've got words like, what does it say? I can't see it. I don't remember. Babs, what would we just say? I'm going to zoom in. It was like set bills. Do you remember what it said? Static bills. There's like spending in the middle of savings.

24:39Like it's all. Oh, and then they have an actual budget, like a bottom line, baseline budget is what she said. And then she has what she actually does in the moment. So now you're having to do two budgets. Basically you're writing a budget for January and then you're computing the actuals in the month, which is again, you don't need to do twice. Yep. Andrea, can you confirm for us all bills should be its own checking account correct real quick yeah we're going to go back to that picture yesterday if i could go to it quickly i would but i can't sorry i love you all the money all of your income goes into the bills account the bills account stays there it's paying all your bills automatically you have transfers going into your spending accounts and your savings accounts according to the budget according to the paycheck plan every two weeks or every one every week whatever you have set up according to what you want That's how it works.

25:23And yes, all of these categories are separate accounts. And you get to decide what those categories are. We're not saying you have to have a gas and groceries account. You can absolutely have a gas and you can absolutely have a groceries. It all depends on what you want and what works for your lifestyle. And that's the freedom of our budget. It is not cookie cutter. It's based around what fits you best. All right. So we're going to hop over. Janet, are you here? Are you here? We have your budget. We're doing it. All right. So Janet's doing a great job. She's got income. The Venmo. So Venmo is listed as a negative thing on her budget where if you make money, then that goes into your income from Venmo.

25:58If you're selling stuff, if you're selling clothes or whatever, and you make money, you need to get that out of your Venmo balance or your PayPal balance or your cash app balance, everything, and transfer it into your bills account so you account for it on your budget. Yes. Yep. Do both debt payments and bills come from the same checking account? Yep. Same bills account. Okay. All right. So let's move on for Janet. She's got some debts. So they have a couple of cars, a couple bank credit cards. Those are, that's what those are called. All right. So we put them in there for her. And this is also guys, this is why we love to build it this way because you can see where your money's going.

26:33Like at a bird's eye view. Okay. I make, we make great money. $12 ,000 a month. Gosh, 20, whoopsies,$2 ,500 of it goes to debt every month. And that's without, hopefully they paid this off or maybe they don't have a payment this month. Not sure. That's eyeopening to see. Yeah. Okay. And then we go to bills. and some of you have very few bills. Some of you try to get every line filled out and it's a game that you want to win and we love that for you. But now you can see, okay, I am paying$5 ,200 in bills and I think one of Janet's kind of questions is like, where's all my money going? At this point, before you've bought groceries, before you've saved for anything, we've got$4 ,000 left.

27:11Yeah, so they have a decent amount of bills, Shana, but they do have a good amount of money left. So it looks like, yes, they have a lot of things listed there, but they're doing a lot with it. And listen, Shana just highlighted all of their subscriptions. So she had her subscriptions listed separately. And I know you guys have told us, or you've heard us say, maybe list those all together in your budget. So you can look at them all at once and go, am I using this? Do I have time to sit there and use these? Or how many of these have I been paying for the last two or three years that nobody's even logged into?

27:41We forgot the passwords. Erin just said filling out this budget this morning was eye-opening. And that's exactly why we want it to be laid out this way, to do the math in the moment, for you to do it all on one page, because it is eye-opening. All of those other budgets, they don't really know what's going on. They're going by paycheck. They're going down to the last dollar. You can't really see what's happening or what you want to have happen in those other budgets. That's why we have done it this way. Okay. Spending is next up for Janet, our friend Janet. Okay. Katie said, can you add more lines in the budget?

28:15Please do not. You will mess up all the formulas in the background. We added 10 lines. We, that is, we've been doing this for 10 years. That's usually always been sufficient for us. If you have things like you're always getting a phone reimbursement or you're getting some type of reimbursements from your work, you can, if you're, if it's once a month or if it's twice a month, you can bundle those, but you should be able to figure out a way to make that work on a consistent basis. Yeah. And even if you have to put your, yeah, combine some paychecks, combine child support, you can do that. All right.

28:44So here is, sorry about that. Katie, we're really excited. You have so much income. Let's all just do a round of applause. Yeah. That's a good problem to have. We just, we can't particularly solve it in this particular moment. Okay. Here's the fun spending. She had miscellaneous. But she also has dining out. Yeah. But what's miscellaneous, you guys, which what's missing from this is she has no spending money. And so we're just saying miscellaneous because we have no spending money partially. She also had line items, you guys, specifically for prescriptions and doctor fee or something. I can't remember.

29:16And so in that instance, when we're talking about accounts, we would, if you know those are happening every month, make a medical checking account so that you always have money in there. You don't have to go to the doctor and be like, I don't know how I'm going to pay for this. You don't have to wait for them to bill you. And then 18 months later, you're not really sure where this bill came from. Like you can just pay in the moment because you have your medical spending account. And again, we're talking about categories, right? So we don't need to necessarily say, I have to do every single one of these things this month.

29:41You just need to make sure you have enough money in the medical account to be able to cover all that. It's like I told my new client, I was like, listen, you get$2 ,000 a month to spend in all your categories. Have a good time. Like all of that is out of your bills account. Go spend it freely in those categories. and you're not going to get it right the first couple of months. You're going to mess it up because you don't, this is the first time you've ever done it. Eventually you will get really good at putting the right amount of money. And I love how she has medical in checking or as a, in spending Shaina, because she knows that she needs a checking account for that.

30:09Oh, we're telling, yeah, we're telling her to do that. Was it, was it in, did she have it in savings? It just, she just had it line on it. I don't know. But we're, yeah. If you are spending your money frequently, make it a checking account and get that debit card. It makes it so much easier. Yep. Okay. So then what, then she's saving some money. look over here. So here's an interesting thing in her budget. Let's see if we can see it. Over here, she has some savings buckets and there's zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, which can happen, right? But we also have miscellaneous of$1 ,100. We also have some of these, we have a general savings of 600 that we're not sure.

30:42So what we want to do, so this is what it looks like, but what we're going to change it to is we're going to take that miscellaneous spending off. Now we're going to give you spending on money on purpose. We're going to move money over there on purpose. That's where you need to live. Done. Don't do anything else. Here, we're going to actually fund the things that you're putting in your budget. Let's do it on purpose. Let's say we want to put a hundred dollars in annual bills because she's saving for insurance or auto tabs. We want to be able to have money because the miscellaneous is the birthdays that we forgot were coming up or she had pool stuff.

31:10So we're going to start setting aside stuff for the household. Yeah. And listen, she still has$500 left over. Look at that. So after all of this, after us giving them spending money and saying, okay, no, we're going to be very specific on what your categories are and not just lump it together and then just swipe the card and go, I don't really know what, where this is supposed to come from, but I'm going to put it under miscellaneous. No, we're going to say it's on purpose. And she still has, like I said, 500 that she could put on debt or if paying off debt, isn't really her goal. Cause sometimes people come to us and they say, listen, I'm fine where I'm at with my debt.

31:39I just want to build my savings buckets. Great. Then she can take that 500. She can make more savings buckets or she could beef up the ones that we listed out here for her. Yeah, absolutely. And then Val, Valene asked the question about should you have a separate account for the medical? So they are, I'm guessing, because they're both on social security, they're retired. And sometimes that just comes that time of life comes with more doctor's visits. So it makes a lot of sense for them to have a medical checking account. We have medical savings accounts because we don't go to the doctor a lot.

32:08We it's just four times a year. So it's going to be a little different. It just depends on how you use your money. If you're using the money that you're setting aside every month, it's going to be a spending account. If you're not, it's going to be a savings account. Now, the other caveat to that is I have a lot of clients that have, maybe they go to therapy. So every single week they have a weekly therapy bill that they know is consistent. It's reoccurring. We put that in their bills. They have the account on file. They charge it every single week. And so that is not considered spending in my, one of my clients budget.

32:33It is considered a bill. Yeah. Okay. So just to reiterate here, what we're going to do now is, so her question, you guys, by the way, is how to find where the money is going. It seems so close. Let's start putting money in places on purpose. So when you're doing it retroactively, you're like, I don't know where it went. If you set that budget up and you say, this is where I'm putting$400 for Christmas every month. I'm putting a hundred dollars for medical and you're telling your money where to go. You're setting it up to go automatically. You know where your money's going. Yeah. Congratulations.

33:02That miscellaneous category is really going to mess you up. That's where you're not sure what's happening with your money because you're categorizing it. So it's so general that you're putting everything in there. So you're feeling like you're dumping it all in there. And then you're still, we're back to square one of not organizing our money, not separating it and not knowing what's happening. All right. So let's take a look behind the scenes. So you guys, most of you already have the budget. Raise your hand in the chat. If you have the budget already, I said most of you, and that could be incorrect.

33:29I could be totally wrong. Let's see. I have it, Molly. 80 people in here already. Okay. Perfect. Yeah. Good job. You guys, you already have it, but real quick for those of you that don't have it, we want to take a look behind the scenes, Vanessa. Is that what we want to do? Yep. That's the, yep. This is the budget. So we're just looking at the budget here. I'm just going to show you what we, the actual system. Yeah. So we have, first of all, you have this budget and somebody emailed us the other day. It says, I'm a little overwhelmed. We get it. You only have to start with the actual budget. Just saw, which is very clear and very, hopefully pretty simple, but to help you take this to the next level, we have two bonuses that come right in it, right?

34:12Yeah. So we just added, we have three bonuses now and that's why the price is going up Monday guys. And so you want to, if you want to get it, you want to get it now, but listen, so these bonuses that we added, we have the budget system series, and then we have budget or money and budgeting one-on-one. The series is our steps. It's our exact system, our steps one through eight. And it talks about from dreaming again to being bougie in a budget, everything in between setting up your budget, your bills, account, spending, savings, automations, like all of it. It is step-by-step. It's a video of us talking about how to go through that.

34:39That is a bonus in your horse. Yep. And yeah. And then the money one-on-one is all of our rolling. It's our systems that we originally came up with at the very beginning of our business. And they're still very relevant. Okay. We have one at the end that's happily ever after when and how to invest and retire. We talk deeper about savings buckets and all of that. So they're all really good. And we put those directly right in your budget for you. Yeah. And just real quick, you guys have seen us go through the budget every throughout the throughout our lives, right? So throughout this whole bootcamp.

35:10So just so you know, we have an asset tracker. We have a debt tracker. We show you the three different ways. Once you enter in all the numbers on your debt tracker, each the debt snowball, the debt avalanche debt minimums, all of those will populate for you and show you how it would work if you pay them off that way. Yep. And then we have the savings buckets. Listen, this is where you go in and you plan your year. This isn't for monthly things. Anything that's monthly goes in your monthly budget. All the one-off expenses, all the unexpected expenses that happen throughout the year, this is where you're going to go and fill those in on the savings bucket.

35:38We also have a Christmas planner because listen, Christmas is also a savings bucket. The reason why it's not in the savings bucket tab is because it's so big and it's two or three months long that it gets its own tab because it's all very, there's a lot going on with Christmas. Yeah. Okay. There's notes because there's always notes. And then we also have, we also have lots. We also have your budget, which populates you guys. So when you fill out January, if it populates the rest of the year, and then all you have to do is go in each month and kind of tweak and see what's a little different each month that you want to do.

36:06And then we also have, as we have the paycheck plan, which tells you when you have those different accounts that we're telling you and the bills, the monies and the bills that's being transferred out, this tells you exactly which automatic transfers to set up automatically. It tells you, it doesn't matter for you. Yep. All right. So the budget and the paycheck plan are probably the meat, the bread and butter of the entire thing, right? It's the meat and the potatoes. If you don't do anything else, you don't use any other tab in the entire system. Totally fine. Use the monthly budget, use the paycheck plan.

36:31It's really going to help everything else over here. We have a debt-free budget for you to look at. You can compare budgets month to month. You can look at your results and see where you've gone throughout the year. Financial snapshot gives you your net worth. There's so many options here. Yeah. But again, it's not, I'm sorry. I was just going to say, I know it may be a lot. We're totally over-delivering on purpose, but you don't have to use it. Yeah. Yeah. The budget, you'll do so well. The other stuff is when you feel really comfortable. All right. So here's some objections. I don't have time.

36:58Okay. You don't have time not to, Vanessa. They don't have time to not budget. And honestly, this is going to save you money. As you all are seeing, or save you time, once you get this set up, once you start using the automatic transfers, start getting your bills paid, you're going to be like, what do I do with my time? What do I do? I don't have any more anxiety. What do I do? Oh, no. It's such a good problem to have and it's going to be your problem. So one of the things I like to say is when people say, what do I do? Literally anything else. Go for a walk. Go take the kids to the park. Go on a date night with your spouse.

37:24Go to the gym. You don't have to sit there and worry about your finances and track that. I think we got an email the other night or last night somebody asking about tracking. Does this attach to your bank account so I can track all of my expenses? And those of y 'all that are super fans, what are we saying? And we're like, no, girl, release yourself from that. You don't have to track anything. That is the freedom of the way that we do our budget by category instead of line item by line item of every single transaction in your bank. All right, quickly, you need to talk to your spouse. That's fine.

37:53We get that. What we would suggest is sometimes we have the spouse will do it on their own and then model what's happening, how it's working. They'll feel really confident in their numbers because a lot of times you're not combined. And then it's a great time to combine and go together. A lot of times I just want to see things working. Yeah. Yeah. So the alternative is to keep doing what you're doing, like that paycheck. what was that paycheck budget planner? Oh man. No. Or to use apps that are forcing you to track. We had somebody tell us she gets a red, like beeping every time she like spends, even though she's, but I had, I got my prescription at Walgreens.

38:25I needed to spend it. And we don't know what's happening. Don't do that. That's not for her or just wait and just feel crummy all year until you finally do it later until enough is enough. Yeah. All right. Yeah. So the, right now the budget system that you do it yourself is right now it's$197. Somebody said in the chat, It's a lot of money. It may be, but it is an investment into your future. We also think it's like a trip to Target for some of you. We don't go to Target for that reason because we will spend that much money. Switch out Target from Costco, Sam's Club, whatever. It's still, it's one trip that it's less than that that you're going to spend.

38:59And it's an investment for the rest of your life. It's not like something that you're going to get for six months or one month, and then you're never going to get it again. You're going to have it forever. And yeah, monthly group coaching is included. We have Michelle. She's in here. you have your once a month, you get to meet with her. You also have the free office hours weekly that you're able to sign up for and be part of. But the other part of that, Shana is a done for you program. So it's like, if you're like, listen, I love all this. I think this is great. I want somebody to do it for me.

39:23I want you to look at my specific situation and I want you to, to work with me for six months to be invested in my family. So that way I know how to do this for the rest of my life. That is private one-on-one coaching. Yep. All right. So we are going to move on and we have about 14 minutes left for your questions. You guys had a bunch of questions in there. We're also going to get to the giveaway here, but we want to get your questions because some of you did submit a budget and if we didn't go over it and you're here and you want us to look at it, we can do that right now. We can answer your specific questions about you budgeting, about you setting up the system, about buying the system, whatever questions you have, put them in the chat right now.

39:59We're here for you. Someone asked to walk through the debt tracker. Okay. I'll bring that up real quick right now.

40:09Okay. Sorry. That was our secret code. You don't know what we said. It's a mystery to you. Okay. You guys love us anyway. All right. Debt tracker. I'm going to bring it up. Now the reason that somebody did, I asked for a debt, the debt bootcamp, Vanessa. I didn't see that. We already had. Yeah. So I think we should. Okay. Debt tracker. So what was the question specifically about the debt tracker? What we want you to do is put all of your debts in here. You're going to list everything out, right? And it's going to tell you, tell you all of the information. This is how much debt you're in. This is how much you have to pay a month.

40:43Awesome. We all love that big number, right? So that's all of that together. And then as you update the current balance, different being different from the previous balance or beginning balance, like these three were paid off, which is probably the amount that it's saying is paid off right there. So it's telling you debt paid off. And then you're just saying when you start over here and you can put how much extra you want to pay and it will, that's this, that little magic is what's going to populate all of this to show you, Hey, if you do nothing else besides what you just said, you'll be out of debt next year by September.

41:13And so it just gives you a picture, a snapshot. And then that's, yeah, you really just want to update here. You're going to delete these as you pay them off. Right. And you don't have to do anything on these next three tabs, right? So the debt snowball, the avalanche debt minimum, you don't enter anything in there. it pulls based on what you enter in the debt tracker. So the name, the categories, but you have to have everything filled in. If you don't have a minimum payment, you don't have interest, you don't have a balance. It's not going to fill in. And the other thing is that extra payment on debt, like Shannon was talking about, if you do that, it's going to show you, you can say, okay, what if I do an extra a hundred or 300 or 500?

41:41That is once you change that, it'll change all the dates for you on those next three tabs. Okay. Somebody asked what about cash and thank you for trying to answer that question. Whoever did, that was really sweet right here. We know, let's say that Zane's really cool guy. he wants to get cash for his because he's a dude and he's like having money in my wallet. We're like, we hear you. And so then you're going to go to the paycheck plan here, change the cash, and you're just going to get the money out. You're still saying you're still going to have a spending amount, spending account. And then you can just go get your cash out.

42:11It's going to tell you to get your cash out over here when I pick the right month. So please hold. Which one did I just on you guys? There you go. It's on March. So it tells you. So if you use this, like Vanessa will say she has clients that don't even look at the budget once after a while they just use the paycheck plan and on payday they go through and make sure they go get their cash out whichever ones i have a lot of her cash i make sure these transfers happen i can click them off i made sure these transfers happen and then if i have one-time things i need to do i click those off you can still use cash everything is digital because that's how you're getting paid like your bills are getting paid digitally you're getting your income probably direct deposit you can still go back to using cash especially if that's what you want to do you're just going to you're going to plan like we like to say, plan to get it out in the moment.

42:54The reason you're going to have an account, Zane, or whoever it was that actually asked the question is because we don't believe you that you're going to go do it on time. Okay. We want the money there. We want it where it's supposed to be, but then you can go get the cash out. And then I have, if you're thinking about kids or something, I have clients that it goes into their account, their spending account. And they go get out the money for the kids separately because they don't want to have a specific account for the kids. And then they go put that in a wallet or an envelope or whatever. Oh, he, Janet gets paid with cash.

43:20That's what she means. Oh, go deposit your cash. You just got to put it in the bank. You still want to put it in here. So a lot of people will say, I get cash. I get half Venmo, half cash. And then they don't put the cash in the budget. And, but they only put the digital part. No, we want you to put everything. You have to see all of your money for the entire month. So I do have a client that's an esthetician and she, we put her cash chips in her budget and then she does not go take it to the bank. She just immediately puts it into her gas and groceries and spending wallets or envelopes. I keep getting that messed up.

43:48And that's what we're saying. You can do that too. This is a more complicated budget, but we could show you how that would look if we had a little bit more time. But you would just put the cash here and then you put it over here and you're just a lot. It's still the point Vanessa's making is we still want to count it for income. Like we need to plan with it just because it's cash. In your case, you're getting paid, but some people get tips or bonuses or whatever in cash. And we need to account for that in the budget. Yeah. What other questions do we got? It says after having the system for several months.

44:15It finally clicked yesterday. The bills and expenses are paid in lump sums and not multiple times per month as part of the paycheck plan. Yeah. So the paycheck plan only tracks your spending and your savings, because as long as you leave the money in, if you guys haven't had a chance to watch the videos, please watch the videos because they show you exactly how to use the tabs, especially that budget. We have a specific one in there just for the budget and for the paycheck plan, but it tells you how to, how exactly to transfer your money to your spending in your savings because everything else is staying in the bills, right?

44:46So that the paycheck plan doesn't correlate or doesn't mess with the bills account at all. Okay. We have lots of great questions here. I'll make it stop. I say it's I'm self-employed. Should I pay myself once a month to know I have enough for both pay periods? If you're self-employed, you can totally pay yourself once a month. Here's what you got to do. And we tell you this before. First, you've got to figure out, you do your personal budget, figure out what you cost in a month. Then you do your business budget, figure out what your business costs in a month, right? And then yes, you can pay yourself once into the bills account.

45:14We have people that do that. And then they still do their spending transfers weekly or biweekly, because they're like, I don't want all my spending money at one time or whatever. So you can do that. But if you have the business, and it's possible, obviously, or we do once a month, at the end of the month, Vanessa sets all of our stuff up to go for the first and she's done with the business. And then all of our personal budgets obviously happening separate, but it's one time we're done. So for sure do that. The other person, Andrea said, we pay for childcare every week through Venmo. Should that move out of the monthly bills and into its own checking account?

45:46Since we won't be able to look at the month and check it off. You can put four lines of childcare in your bills account and you're still paying it. It's still a due date. The method you're paying it Venmo is not really the thing that's determining it. It's that you're paying a bill every week and it's just, you're paying it through Venmo. So you can still put that if you want, you would put it down here four times. Yeah. We have a lot of people that pay their childcare weekly and they want to put it in weekly so that way they can check it off every single time it goes through. We have people that like their cleaning lady as well.

46:15They put those in. Yeah. However you want to do it again, it's your budget. You get to decide. Okay. And Anne said, I just purchased it. How can we both access it from our phones? I have my budget shared with my husband and his Google account and he, and that's all that's it. You just go here, right here, this little button right here. Don't. And then you're just going to, you're going to access and decide who you're going to let look at your budget. And I will say this, there's nothing, there's no identifying information on this, right? This is just numbers and like dental insurance. There's no bank account.

46:50So it's safe to share. You don't have to worry about that. There's no nothing there that you have to worry about. So let me see if we have more questions. Do we have more questions? You guys, let's see. Oh, thanks, Jen. And she said, the videos are so helpful. I'm excited for this year. We are excited for you. Just purchased. Let's go, Anastasia. Sorry that you can't get into your ThriveCart. We'll work on that. You guys don't have any more questions. You already figured it out. I had one bootcamp and they've got it all figured out. Hey, we did a good job. I know. We're done. We're done. We're all good.

47:19Oh, goodness. Okay. Do you recommend the practice of checking off bills on a monthly basis? Oh, where did it go? Sorry. Boy. So we're checking in with the budget or once we're up and running. No, we do. We would say keep looking at. I look, I still check mine off. Sometimes Chris is my husband. He's already done it and he's very rude. And I want to go in there and check something else without you. He just checks it. He just checks it all off. He is. Everybody wants to check stuff off. It's like a fun thing to do, but yeah, you want to each month just go in there. You're just, but it's not a lot.

47:49You're not, we're not asking you to over, overdo it or micromanage. You're just checking that the bill came out. That's it. Or that you did the transfer went through or whatever. So she said, I went to get it. Okay. Listen, save for it. We're all for saving for the budget and paying cash for it. If you haven't had a chance to join Michelle for office hours weekly on Wednesdays at noon central, do that. She's been awesome about helping people get a savings bucket to be able to start saving for the system. So that way you can pay cash for it. Oh, Bonnie, we saw your budget. She's asking a question.

48:18Remember we were looking at Bonnie's budget. Oh yeah. Yeah. And we were looking at that. She said, right now I'm tracking 8 ,000, 8 ,000, four times in the debt column, auto paying 8 ,000 weekly from my business account to my Capital One card. I do this because I use the, okay.

48:36You had a note when you, we were looking at that, Vanessa, if you want to look all the way down for Bonnie's comment. I also saw a message from somebody about trying to log in. Okay. What did she, oh, mine's different than yours. Where are you at? Bonnie, what'd she say? Yeah. She was the one that I could pull it up. She was the one that had the 8 ,000. Oh yeah. Cause she was, it was her business budget. Yeah. Right. I'm checking. So our whole thing would be to, you need to have a checking account. And this is exactly what we said when we were talking to each other. You didn't have a checking account.

49:06That's a capital one checking account. If you're charging everything for your business, but you want to pay it, you need to have a checking account where you're funding it. And that way all that money is just going to pay for the card, but you still have to budget for it. Right? So that's the biggest thing about wanting to charge on a card. You, the exact amount that you're charging, you need to put into a checking account that you're going to pay off, especially for businesses. So I would say that would be a good practice to do. Okay. I love, there's a lot of great comments in it here. There's a lot of great things going on.

49:38Norma said that they, their income got decreased by 15%, but they, this is the first time they had money left in the accounts. You guys, that's the point. It's really exciting because you start to be the kind of person that actually knows where your money is going. You're doing it on purpose. You feel like you're being a good steward. And you're like, we have, when we update the asset tracker. We told you, maybe we didn't, but I'm going to tell you now we do that with our clients at the beginning of each session. And then sometimes people are competing about how much money they have left in their, in their spending account.

50:06Yeah. Yeah. And so the husband and wife were like, I had more and I didn't spend, I like all of a sudden the goal is not, is like, I'm saving more money than I'm spending. And that's like automatic. You don't have to go to a class. You don't have to sign a dotted line. That just happens by nature of doing this and knowing what's going on with your money. It's like my husband, I think it was last month. He was like, why do you have twice as much in your spending account than me? And I said, because I didn't spend it. And he was laughing. It was obviously a joke. He didn't care, but it was funny.

50:30And he was like, oh yeah, because he swipes his card because he manages a grocery store, swipes his car like 10 times a day. It adds up very quickly. We love him though. He works at a grocery. So it's fair. Okay, here we go. So somebody asked, what do we do? We have this last question right quick and I want to, and this is going to be it. So what do we do if we end up spending more for groceries and gas than was budgeted. Okay. So that's when we're going to reconcile at the end of the month. So that this point you would have checked most, most of it off. Right. I have a question. So you had to have had the money in the account.

51:02If you had separate accounts and you had that money in the account, the money had to come from somewhere. So either an auto pulled from bills or an auto, like auto draft. What is that the, where it replenishes if something gets depleted? What is that called? I think it's, what is it called? Overdraft, overdraft protection. Thank you. Overdraft protection. So you guys had to have that set up. So if you overdrafted on that account, then it pulled from somewhere. So listen, you're not going to get it right. The first time you're, you need to find the right number to put in your grocery account. That gives you a little bit of a buffer that you may or may not spend every month.

51:31Yeah. I don't know what the spending buffer is, but what we do when we're, when you're starting, and this is what Vanessa and Michelle are alluding to when you're starting, you're not going to get We would do here on groceries, extra on dining out, 100. And then the next month, whatever, however much it was, the next month we would be like, okay, was that a one-time thing? Or do you feel like you need to up it? Was that just whatever? Yeah. And then we're going to up your budget or whatever, but you are going to allot for it right in your budget so that you can see it. And then we need to be making those decisions.

52:00And that's also why we like to look in the beginning at the asset tracker. If you get in here, yes, I'm sorry. If you get in here and all of these numbers are at zero or at least all of your spending and you have four days left or five days left until you get another transfer, then those numbers aren't. We have to change that. But understand it's a learning. It's a learning. We're getting there. All right. So guys, we want to drum roll. I don't know if y 'all can hear our drum roll. So we want to pick our two lucky winners who have bought the system and have shown up to the bootcamp. Okay. So I have, I don't know, my computer keeps having, we're having the best time with technology.

52:33Every time Shana does something to her computer, my computer gets really. It's my fault. I'm sorry, you guys. Okay. So here we go. It's happening to all of them. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. So here we go. I just put you guys in the chat. Congratulations to Bonnie. Congratulations to Linda. You guys have one coaching with us. We are so excited. And also somebody said that they were having trouble with the login Thrivecart link. I just put that in there as well so that you guys can click on that. I'm not really sure what's happening, but we are so excited. I know we ran right to the one o 'clock. Now it's one Oh one Oh one.

53:03We're so sorry. We love to talk and we love to serve. We hope that you guys had a wonderful time. Thank you guys for showing up and coming to our budget, budget, money, money, makeover bootcamp. Yes. Thank you for coming. And, and don't forget we are the price of the budget is going up. Oh, on Monday, so grab it this weekend, come to office hours with Michelle, listen to the podcast, sign up for a free call, live call, budgetbesties.com forward slash live call. Come on the podcast. We'll answer your actual questions even more. So we loved having you. We loved this whole thing. Thank you so much.

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