Only Poor People Think the System is Rigged | Start Thinking Rich

27:48And then I started my own business and I exited in November in the insurance industry. And when I did that, I kind of kept one foot in the insurance interest because I love it. It's my home industry and it's great. But I then broadened out and I've started doing entrepreneurial coaching and online business stuff like what you described. And as I've gotten deeper into that, I knew how to play the insurance game. Like I knew what to do, who to talk to, where to go, what message had to be said, how the message had to be delivered in order to get people to buy stuff in that space. And then when I got into the broader kind of entrepreneurial influencer podcast game, I started, I like was like, why aren't these things working the same?

28:32Like, how come I could, when I was purely talking to the insurance industry, I could create a video on LinkedIn that would get 50 ,000 views. And now I get 1 ,700 views. What's going, you know, and what I've, and what's been interesting is like, I've just had to relearn a new set of rules for a different game. I love that analogy. And then people are like, wow, you know, this system, you know, it's just the most influential people just work with each other and they don't work with anyone else. And I'm like, that's not true. I haven't found that to be the case. They just aren't going to play with you if you don't know how to play the game.

29:11It's just, but they don't want to learn. Why? I guess my, and as much as you can answer this, And maybe, Brad, this is for you because you're the, you know, psychologist and probably the smartest of all of us here, at least from a degree. That's looking at least. Yeah. I'm not sure about smart. I don't know about that one. Yeah. Best hoodie on the show, you know. So, you know, why why don't we want to do this? Like, why are why do people settle into these places where they're willing to bitch but unwilling to work? yeah so it's such an awakening awakening to just sort of if you if you understand that it's a game you are already better off than nine out of ten people because nine out of ten people think well this is the way the world works you know and they're sort of stuck in this little bubble and they have a bad experience you know and they're like oh you know so so for example they have they saw their parents get evicted you know from from a housing unit and they're like oh my god rich people are terrible.

30:10You know, they're nasty. And then so because they just saw a rich person treat their family in a bad way. Like this stuff happens. Now though they've figured it out. If you have money, you're a bad person. And so they will hold this in the back of their brain for the rest of their lives. They will sabotage themselves. Anytime they start to have some success. And I've worked with people like this. I don't understand Dr. Brad. Like I'll start to get some success and then I sabotage it. Well, it comes down to this experience they had as a kid where they associated money with bad. The other thing that keeps us stuck is we are tribal in nature.

30:46And this is probably one of the hardest things that keeps people stuck in their socioeconomic level, which is great if you're wealthy and you love it. It's bad if you're poor and you don't like it. But essentially, we surround ourselves with people who look at the world the way we do. So they're all playing the same game. They all know the same rule. They don't know the other game. It's a foreign game to them. That's a foreign tribe, right? That's scary over there. But we know how to do this. This is what we know how to do. And then once we start, once we say, hey, but look at that tribe over there.

31:17You know, it's like, it looks like they have some fancier things. It looks like they might have more time off. You know, that looks good. No, no, no. Those people are bad. And once we start to leave our tribe, people will try to sabotage us. not because they hate us. The irony is it's because they love us. They don't want to lose us. They're afraid that we're going to leave them. And so they'll make us feel guilty or they'll encourage us to overspend. They'll do all sorts of things because they're so desperate and afraid to lose us. But ultimately, I think one of the things that keeps people stuck in this, the system is rigged.

31:50Everybody's out to get me. And by the way, there are people probably out to get you and things aren't fair. Like if that's your focus, you will see that everywhere and you'll never go beyond it. But it's something in psychology called learned helplessness. And if you have grown up in a place where they've done experiments, we talk about it in the book, like these terrible, terrible experiments with dogs, which are just terrible if you like dogs. But what they would do is they would put a dog in a cage that was electrified, and they would give it no place to escape. And so what they would start to do is start shooting electrical current through the cage and the dog jumps up and down, runs all over, tries to find a place to escape.

32:30And then eventually just lays down and whimpers. Okay. That, that is helplessness. You've learned that no matter what you do, you can't change it. Then, and by the way, a lot of people's childhood is like that. So you're a child, you can't escape what's happening in your life. If you grow up poor, there's nothing you can do about it. You just got to lay down and take it and try to get through childhood trauma abuse so many people grow up with this growing up in poverty it's just multiple traumas now here's the problem they then took that cage so imagine now that you're 18 years old half of it was not electrified and so all the dog had to do was jump over this little barrier and it was totally free fine not getting electrocuted at all those dogs who grew up in that or had that experience so so the how we relate to that is growing up in that sort of trauma, they didn't even try to escape.

33:20So literally inches away was freedom from that pain. And that's really what I think happens for many of us. Like we don't know it. All it is is one book away. All it is is one relationship away, one mindset shift away. But we feel like it's impossible. So we essentially lay down and just take it. And it's so tragic when I see people and as a psychologist work with people where it's so obvious to me, all you have to do is just hop right over here but they've been trained from that early childhood trauma that escape is impossible and so then they live a life that it's so sad to watch and so that's that's part of what we're trying to do with this book is is wake people up to that reality to realize that it is a game it is again it's you mean it's a game yes it is learn how to play the game you can win the game yeah it it's like we create a ceiling that doesn't exist right it's it's uh another good example is I think this came out in Thailand.

34:18They train the elephants with a cord attached to a stick. And then when they hit a certain age, they take the cord off and the elephant won't go anywhere. The elephant will just stay right there because it still believes that the cord is still attached to the stake. And the rest of their lives, the rest of their lives, they will stay right by that stake even though the cord is not attached to them anymore. It's crazy. I completely agree with that. But it's funny, you know, I even look back, you know, looking at my own life, it has been my journey in relationship with money has been, you know, I was low income.

34:56I was blessed to get a scholarship to play baseball at the University of Rochester, which I didn't realize at the time was a safety school for dumbass kids who wanted to go to Ivy schools but were too dumb to get in. So you start being surrounded by all these really rich dummies. and I show up, I have$127 in my bank account. Day one, I show up to college and the kid I'm roomed with is driving a Range Rover and has like a Rolex or something, I can't even remember, some crazy ass expensive watch on his wrist and you know, whatever. And I'm like, I literally remember saying to myself, I'm fucked.

35:34Like, how am I ever gonna get there? Like, look where I am. I'm wearing, I have one pair of jeans. I have two button-down shirts you know what I mean like this kid's rolling in and a Range Rover that his dad bought for him with this watch and coats and all this stuff fancy sunglasses and shit like I didn't even have sunglasses you know I mean those are for rich people so like I just you know the gooders didn't exist back then so like it it is wild and then and then only through a life of like experience and then ultimately meeting I have a very good friend he lives in Connecticut I'll give him a shout out he's a co-author on the book we're writing we're writing a book together They're called The Civilized Savage.

36:11His name's Chris Paradiso. I got to know him very early in my professional career. And he showed me, like, he came, you know, he came from a good family. But he then, he just, he never had that mental ceiling, right? So he just kept growing and building and growing. And he would see opportunities. And I'd be like, you can do that? And he's like, why can't we do that? And, like, that, like, it's like we can't even imagine that these opportunities are possible for us. even though they're right there. And this is why I love podcasting, because we get to share this kind of shit. I want to briefly talk about something because this is one of my traumas.

36:52My mother will say to me all the time, don't work so hard. Money doesn't buy you happiness. You guys address this directly in your book. Now, I don't believe her. And I will say, well, that makes you sound like a communist mom. No, I give my mom a lot of shit. She's the best. But she does have this very, like, what you're talking about, that relationship with money, she has it. And she will say that to me all the time, even today. Like, I went on vacation last week, and she's like, you know, that's great. But, you know, you don't have to go to those fancy places or whatever because, you know, money doesn't buy you happiness.

37:25I'm like, well, have you ever been on Taylor Bay Beach in Turks and Caicos? Because that was pretty fucking nice. So, you know, talk me through this because I think you guys address this head-on in your book. I think we say being poor sucks. Now, it's fact, and I have to be really honest. My dad, he came from subpoverty, like in a village in Mexico where they built their own houses. And when they came here, it was an hour north of San Diego and Oceanside. And I remember there was this one stretch of freeway we would never used to drive on as a kid. And when I got a little older, I remember I was driving and I made the turn to go on this one freeway.

38:17And my dad was like, wait, wait, don't – oh, it's too late. I was like, well, how can we never go down here? And then he shared, this is – when I was in high school, this is the road I'd have to walk like five miles to go to my part-time job. And so he was one of those guys walking on the freeway. And that's one of so many hardships that I've got to learn about him. He's someone that actually struggled to have food. He went hungry. I've been hangry. I've never been hungry. I never had to go a day wondering what happened. In the book, I share a story with my dad's permission where he had to go into a neighboring farm one time and dig out an onion.

39:01and bite the onion. I remember when he shares his story, it's funny. He doesn't share it from a sad perspective. He's like, it was the best onion I've ever had. I just took the onion. I took a big, it was amazing. And at first when I heard that story, I was like, that's awesome. What a good story. And then as I grew up, I was like, wait a second. I don't think I've ever been like, I'm just going to take a big bite of this onion because it sounds delicious. No. But when you're hungry, anything sounds good. So I have to learn from these experiences of like what actually being really poor is because those are struggles.

39:35So the goal of this book is to help people elevate. But I think learning from your experiences, if you've never been hungry, if you come from a line of people like a family tree who suffered, you can learn from that. You can learn from that. And like I didn't immigrate here. I was born here, first Brandvila to be born here, and I have an immigrant mindset, but I didn't immigrate here. And I think that's part of the beautiful thing about adopting mindsets. That's why books are amazing. That's why podcasts are amazing. You get to listen to other people's experiences and learn and adopt those mindsets.

40:13But we make it super clear, like, we're not going to sugarcoat, like, having no money. It sucks. And we also don't sugarcoat that. It's easy, too. But we make it real. Like there's real tangible disciplinary actions on how we think about money that affect our actions to change. And if you – just from my personal experience, I watched my parents do it. I watched my parents come here and start low, nothing. And they were the first millionaires, and they did it through saving. They did it through saving. like they also didn't invest in stock market but just through saving cds and like they did things that like most people would be like that's insane i would never do that like they never they didn't buy clothes for like three four years no new clothes um they never they didn't eat out for years because they were just so focused on saving so like when you talk about in our you know we take things so much for granted it's like what not go out to a restaurant for a year are you insane like that's how that's privilege i think but to an immigrant mindset they're willing to do whatever it takes to make it happen.

41:20That is such a lost mentality, I think, today on this just like, sometimes I want to tell you know, I have friends and I have friends in a spectrum, right? I have my friends from my old life who still struggle with a lot of these things. And then I have friends from, I'd say the second half of my life where I really started to embrace success and money and grow and build a life for myself, you know, kind of break the chain, I guess, is really where I, part of it was, I grew up in a town of 900 people in the middle of nowhere in upstate New York, where we used to say you could leave your doors open because the criminals lived there, they didn't steal from there.

41:59And I remember being like 10 years old looking around this town, and it's just this dusty ratty town with one, one streetlight. And I just said, I don't care what I have to do i'm never fucking coming back to this place like this isn't gonna be where i raise my kids like this never gonna happen like i just have to get out of here and you know i i share that because you know i was talking to a friend of mine the other day and he was you know he's bitching about the you know whatever bills and money and i just i was like dude i mean this with the most love suck it the fuck up like change something like i and i mean i mean i mean i'll help you like whatever you need like if you dude i'll share with you the things i know i'll introduce you to people that i know that can help you that are smarter than me at this shit like but stop fucking bitching like like get after it a little bit like instead all this time this 20 minute diatribe that you just laid on me about all the shit that's happening.

43:00You could be, you know, putting together a side hustle or a business. And, and you guys talk a little bit about this. I guess, you know, I, where do people start with this? Do they start? Is it, Hey, I'm in this place and I have to, is it expense first? Is it go make more money first? Is it a combination of the two? Like if I'm sitting here and I, and I don't want you to give away all the, everything that's in the book obviously i want people to read the book and and all that but like if i'm sitting here i'm listening i'm like you know what i freaking man these guys are pissing me off i'm gonna do something i'm not gonna what's like the first thing that they could do tonight after listening to this just to take that first baby step on this path uh adrian i was gonna say our chapter 17 is complaining is for losers but i like stop fucking bitching better i wish we would have named it that Ryan, that's awesome.

43:52Um, it's so easy to complain and bitch. I mean, it's so easy. We all fall into it, but the bottom line is it's horrible for you. There's even studies showing that your brain shrinks. I mean, they're like literally makes you dumber the more you complain. And so if you really do love your friends, like go ahead, like, okay, so go ahead and complain for a minute and set the timer, you know, and then at the end it's like, okay, so what the fuck are you going to do about it. Yeah. And by the way, I'll help you. Let's go. Um, yeah. So, so it is a mindset shift that I think first is sort of this awakening that, Oh my God, you mean I can do it?

44:24Wait, wait a second. You mean success is possible for me, but I've never done it before. I've never written a book and everyone around me tells me that it's too hard and you'll never have any success. Of course, of course, that's the ocean you're swimming in. Oh wait, there's a different ocean. I mean, to me that, that is like the biggest thing is this mindset shift. So we have a chapter though, where we say, hey, we think that you should immediately start saving and investing. So investing, let's just say, you know, most financial experts say 10%. I always shot for 30%. When Adrian lived in a van, he was investing 95 % of his income.

44:59And by the way, the richest immigrant person I know is an immigrant. He's a billionaire. He invested 95 % of his money while sleeping on his mom's couch, eating ramen noodles. And he's a billionaire now. But we say, hey, go ahead and start investing like right now. Even if it's 1 % of your income, put all those mechanisms in place. And if you say you can't afford to invest, we got a great chapter for you where we break it down. We say, get a roommate, start riding the bus, get sober, shave your head. And we actually ran the numbers on it. So the average American, if you got a roommate, if you rode the bus, got rid of your car, if you shaved your head bald like I do, and if you stop drinking, And after 25 years of just investing that in average market returns, it's close to$3 million you would have in just 25 years by just doing that.

45:49But what we hear people say is, well, I don't want a roommate. We actually have a chart in there based on the number of roommates you get and how fast you can become a multimillionaire just to help you out. And it's a bit tongue in cheek, but also this is what people do. Like this is what people who grew up like you, Ryan, you're like, I am not coming back here. I am not raising my kids here. I had that mentality growing up too, because being poor does suck. And anyone who tells you that, oh, you know, money's not going to make your life better. You know, no offense to those individuals, but quite often they're already sort of hit middle class, right?

46:21And so they're, you know, it doesn't add quite as much happiness, but it does make you happier the more you go. Or they feel like success is impossible for them, or they've actually never been poor. So they have no idea how bad it sucks. Um, but, but being poor does suck. Um, and the, the best advice I could give anyone is start investing to day. Another huge mistake people make, Oh, once I pay off my debt, well, if you're the average American, you're never paying off your debt. You know, you're going to go get a house. You're going to owe a mortgage on that for 30 years. Start investing today.

46:52Even if it's a dollar. Yeah, guys, I want, you know, just to, just to share and I've never shared this on the show before for for the long time listeners um I live in a 1300 square foot ranch I could afford a much bigger house probably I just but I'm divorced I have two boys uh we live in a nice part of town the house was built in 1960 I bought it off a 96 year old woman um who was moving in with her 98 year old sister and I got it for an absolute song It was a complete and utter disaster. And I've spent the last year and a half fixing it up over time. And, you know, I have friends that say, like, they're nice enough not to, like, go, why do you live in that small house?

47:39But they insinuate that question. I've had that question insinuate in me. And I'm like, because what the why who am I showing off for that? I need some big ass house. Like, I would rather go, like, dude, for those listening, you can't see Dr. Brad's shirt, but experience is over stuff. I'm like, I want to take my kids to ballgames. I want to go on vacations with, you know, with my girl. Like, I want to go do fun stuff and see shit, and the place that I sleep is so meaningless to me. Like, I mean, I've made it nice, but, you know, it's me and my stepdad pounding away at shit, right? So like I just – we – I think like what society expects of us or what we – a better way of positioning that, what we perceive society expects from us is a big part of why we stay in this poor mindset is like, well, you just got a raise.

48:36Get a better car. You know what I mean? Like what – does it get you where you need to go? If it doesn't break down all the time and it gets you where you need to go, I don't understand the need to upgrade unless you've hit a point in your life where that expense isn't tearing you down. I got a buddy who's got a beautiful second car. It's his convertible portion. It's beautiful. It's his baby, and he loves it. But this dude has worked his ass off and hit a level of income where purchasing that luxury doesn't impact his day-to-day life. And good for him that he's there. but I have other friends who have similarly nice cars that do the that are living as you said paycheck to friggin paycheck to pay for this thing that they can drive around and show off and that like what people what are people gonna think I think my brain is broken I've just never given a shit about that and it's like a blessed superpower because it just I see so many people get bogged down and well what's someone gonna think if I don't take my family out to the nicest restaurants or whatever.

49:36I just, it's such a limiting belief. I agree. Living under your means is such an underrated superpower and the true wealthy people, they, they do it wealthy people. And you're allowed to have nice stuff, but the difference is people that are really wealthy, they don't trade their time for objects. So if you're a W two earner and you have a high income salary and you purchase a nice vehicle without investment income, you're technically trading your time for that asset or for that vehicle, for the nice watch. It's like, how many hours did I have to work to get this, right? That's what I would say a middle-class mentality would wrap their minds at that buy nice stuff.

50:22Wealth people, we have a chapter that says you don't actually want to be a millionaire, or you just want to spend a million dollars. And what a wealthy person will do is from their W2 income, they'll try to save and invest as much of that as possible to the point where then that investment income is paying them. And with that passive income, then they go buy the Porsche. And that's the huge difference. Wealthy people, you're allowed, everyone's allowed to have nice things, but smart wealthy people, they don't trade their time for it. They spend all their money in investments and investments to then purchase their lifestyle.

50:59So when I was living in a van, that's when I got really popular online. I felt like I gained like a million followers overnight because I make like seven figures online and I've been documenting it since my first dollar. And I was living in a van showing how much money I was making and talking about money. And it was a complete contradiction because if you're a millionaire, there's no way you're living in a van. People can wrap their minds. So it became an accident, but that's why it went so viral. And it kind of makes me sad a little bit because we talk about the most important asset, why we try to accumulate money, why do we save, why do we invest, is so we can own our time.

51:39Time is our most valuable asset. The financial freedom is to do what you want to do whenever you want to do it, for as long as you like to do it. So to do something by choice, that's why money allows you to have that freedom to spend as much time with your family, with your kids, working on hobbies until you don't want to work on them anymore. That's an amazing place to be, and most people never get to experience that. So it's having that discipline and avoiding the shiny objects and portraying success. And I think social media has made that part a lot worse is when you pull up Instagram, you look up a friend.

52:14It's their best version of their life. And so you don't know the behind the scenes because rich is what you see, but wealth is what you don't see. That's behind the scenes. And so that's why it's sometimes hard. It's like that person looks successful, but did they trade their time? Are they trading their time? Are they in debt with their time? Are they trapped by their objects? Or do they have real estate or stock that's actually paying for that? Are they really wealthy? And that's sometimes the hardest part is we can't really tell until a crash comes. And then you see who's swimming naked. Resilience.

52:49That is resilience. So I coach entrepreneurs, and they all come in wanting growth strategies. And I have to, I found that I have to like backdoor into resilience because no one wants to hear it. But I'm like, it's not the goal, your goal on a day-to-day basis shouldn't be to win the game. The goal is the ability to keep playing the game, right? That's the goal. Like, how do you keep playing the game? Because eventually you're going to get your wins. But if you think about it just as your next win, your next win, you're not going to be prepared for 2008, 2009, or the tech stock bubble burst back in 2001, or whatever the next thing is, COVID, whatever the next thing is that's going to come down the pipe, and they seem to be coming a little more frequently.

53:37And that kind of takes us to the final topic that I want to hit, and I want to be respectful of your time. You guys have been so amazing. This has been such a great conversation. But you talk about your political party doesn't give a shit about you. And obviously we're coming up to an election. There's, you know, the words communism, socialism, this part, you know, these were the good guys. These guys are the good guys. It is insane. You know, for full disclosure, I have both a Trump sign and a Wu-Tang forever sign in my front yard. Just to give you an idea of where I particularly stand, although, you know, obviously Trump has his failings.

54:14But I just, why doesn't your political party give a shit for you? shit about you and how does that impact your wealth? Yeah, they literally don't care about you. Politicians are all narcissists. They all care about themselves. What they really want to do is get reelected. Okay, that's what they want to do. And so what they'll do is promise you, and by the way, so I grew up lower income. I'm in my early 50s now. The poverty rates have not changed at all. So now granted, um, they are, you know, a couple hundred years ago, it was like 80 % of the world's in poverty. Now it's like 17%. Look, they're not doing anything for poor people.

54:54Okay. And so even if they did, even if there's some sort of policy that gave you a tax credit of a thousand bucks or whatever, that's not going to make you financially free. So if you are sitting around and I run and run across this all the time on social media and in my trolling comments and I can always tell who's doing it, but it's like if people are so focused on the system has to change in order for you to then be able to take some action to better your life. And I'm a clinical psychologist, so I dare you to offer me up the person who has the most stacked against them and me be unable to help them in some way.

55:33And even if these things are like totally legitimate. They've got all the, everything's stacked against them. I guarantee you they can climb the ladder with a mindset shift and some tips along the way, frankly, most of it's mindset. But if you're sitting waiting around for the system to get unrigged and for a politician to save you, it's never going to happen. We talk about it too. Like your boss isn't going to help you be financially free. Your boss probably isn't financially free, right? And even if they were, why would they want to eat the cost of trying to train your replacement? So they're not going to gonna do it for you.

56:05You're gonna have to do it for yourself. And the great news is, like when I was growing up, you couldn't invest in the stock market. You actually had to have a broker make the transactions for you and you had to have a certain amount of money to even have that relationship. Now you can download the app today and you can invest a dollar today. It's unbelievable. There's never been a better time to make money. Adrian's a great example of that. We joke about college and everything since I went all the way and everything. I'm still debating about whether I should send my kids to Adrian's house, you know, over the summer so that he can just set them all up to make a bunch of money.

56:40Or if I should send them to med school or something, I think I'll probably send them to Adrian's house, um, to be financially free. Then they can go decide if they want to, you know, go to med school or whatever. Um, but, but it's never been a better time. You just, but you have to embrace the concept that it's possible for you because it absolutely is. I think the other thing too, we, we're, we're, we don't pick a political side we we talk about red blue the where we're where we're our approaches at a much higher level is that where where your energy is on focus uh and it has to do back to this what wealthy people think they have an internal locus of control so they believe that their life wherever good bad ugly it they're the person that's most accountable for it to change for it to improve.

57:28They're the ones that are in control. And so people that right now, I feel like everyone is a political activist, consuming every single update. It's already happening on my social media. It's so annoying. And most of the time, these people, they're not financially free. I think if you are financially free and so you control your time and you would like to spend your time being a political activist, to me, I think that's great because it's your freedom of choice. If you are not financially free, if you're behind on bills, if you are in debt, if you are not at a job that you love, like why are you spending hours of your time debating and fighting trolls online and trying to be a political activist?

58:10And again, if you're a politician, I think that's what you should do. That's your job. But if you're a regular person that's in debt, doesn't have a lot of investing and saving, it'd be better to read a financial book. It'd be To think that anyone is going to save you is just not true. So it's about energy. It's about focus. And it's about discipline. And politics is like another huge shiny object that can distract just as bad as Netflix. We compare like if you watch the full Game of Thrones, that's enough time for you to literally start an Amazon business. That's enough time for you to sell something on Etsy.

58:47Like it's hours of time. And, you know, I don't know if there's a stat. We should probably look it up. the average amount of time people spend consuming politics now because before um it used to just be during election year and now it seems like it's all year round it's the it's the never-ending netflix is like what's happening in the political world and um ultimately we all get one vote so you could spend all year every single day and and spend days and days and months to get your vote in or you just catch up in the last couple weeks and and vote we do believe you should vote but ultimately your energy should be spent probably elsewhere if you're not financially free.

59:23Yeah, I always come back with with the political pieces, like incentives dictate action, like look at how they're incentivized across the board, right? Take my own political affiliation out of the mix. What are their incentives? And if they're like you said, if their incentive is to be reelected, they're going to do whatever they have to do to make that happen. And if, you know, I love the, there's a clip from Warren Buffett who's like, I could balance the budget in five minutes. Oh, I love that. If they, you know, if at the end of the year, the budget hasn't been balanced, none of them are allowed to be reelected.

1:00:01They're all done. Like the budget will be balanced tomorrow, right? It would be over. And, you know, you think about it and you look at the actions and it's like, you know, not to, you know, get too like in the granular, but things like, you know, you look at like the tax code and how it's, you know, volumes and volumes. And it's like, if they really wanted your life to be simple, there would be one line, you know, everyone pays X percent, period, done. You know what I mean? Then just live your life, you know, we all know what it is and we all go, you know, but they don't. They build in all this.

1:00:33And if you do this and we, you know, it makes me feel better to get more votes if I tell you you should buy a house. So I'm going to stuff this thing in here, but then it's not ever going to look the way I told you it was going to look. And that's why I, you know, I find it so interesting. And I do enjoy, I enjoy politics as theater, but not as reality. It's theater. It's like going to a Broadway play. I mean, you're just, you're watching people perform. And I just, I find it intriguing in that aspect. not so much in that I think any of them and I think this is your point and I think it's 100 % the right point and the point for everything you've said which is stop fucking bitching and get to work.

1:01:17Adrian, Dr. Brad, this has been phenomenal. We're going to push the book hard. I'm going to add it to my recommended reading list. I think this is one of the best, most practical and most real language books on wealth and getting your shit together financially that I've ever read. I appreciate the hell out of you. Besides going to get the books, we'll link in the show notes. Where else can people find out more information about you? Well, thanks so much for having us. Not just a regular link. So if you go to startthinkingrich.com slash Ryan, we want to actually give an extra bonus for everyone that's just part of your audience.

1:01:57And that's a way to say thank you to you and then all of your fans as well. And so it comes with like a financial masterclass as well as a couple of live workshops we're planning on doing after the book is launched. So that's one way for us to say thank you. And also a book is really amazing, but the book is just a starting point, right? You could have a whole library of financial books, but it's really about taking action. So that's what we hoped with some of our bonuses for your audience we could help too. Tremendous. Thank you, guys. I wish you nothing but the best. And I know this will be a huge success as just about everything else you guys do.

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