Peptides Unleashed: The Ultimate Health Hack with Jay Campbell

26:25I love it. You know what I mean? It's just, I feel like I get to be a kid again and run around, you know, my son's 11. So it's just tons of fun. And, you know, we have all, and I'll have people, I'll have people come up to me and they'll be like, how do you have the energy for this? And I'm like, this is like, are you talking about it? This is great. You know what I mean? I love this shit. And it's just a different world. And I want to give you an example of, and just for, again, for, for everybody at home. And I'm sure you've had these conversations with your doctors, like, I have high cholesterol.

26:53I've had high cholesterol my entire life. Since I was eight years old, I've had high cholesterol. It's just genetic. Yeah, genetic. It's just genetic high cholesterol. Okay. No matter what I do, I've never been able to get it below 190. And I'm usually between 200 and 300 at any given time. Okay. So my doctor's like, you know, if you have another high cholesterol test, you know, we want to put you on Lipitor and all this kind of stuff. And I didn't want to do that. And I said, okay. I said, but I said, I did some research and I found, what I found out is one, because it's genetic, it's has less of an impact on my body.

27:26I said, two, if I, if I have zero plaque, then there's no issue with me having cholesterol between two and 300. So, so she goes, well, I guess I can order you a plaque test. I go, yeah, that's what I want you to do. So I go get the plaque test. The plaque test is zero. And she comes back and she goes, well, I guess you don't need the Lipitor. And I said, you know, I think how many people, by the way, do not. Dude, this is this is the part that scares the shit out of me is like she had no problem just going. Here's Lipitor. Here you go. No, didn't even go. Here's the side effects. Here's what just here's Lipitor.

28:00Have a nice day. Go. And it's like, I don't even actually have a problem. Like the sec, if you would just go on one level deeper, I actually don't have a problem. Bro, that's 95 % of men. And again, you and me are different than most men. Let's just be honest. Right now, we're 10 % left of society. 10 % is like us now. That's how bad it really is. And to go deeper with that doctor, and again, to not disparage doctors, because bro, I always say this, right? They're just products of a bad system. They got to pay their bills. They got to write their mortgages. They got to pay for their kids' college tuitions.

28:35I mean, everything that we face in our matrix of life in third density reality, they got to deal with the same shit and they're only going to do what they can do to maximize their income. For her to say to you, you know, take Lipitor or Atrovin or whatever, you know, a statin drug, she makes 450 bucks. Like every time they write a script, that statin company or that statin lobby reimburses them a flat chunk. You know, that's why the best cardiologists from an income standpoint have every single patient on a cholesterol lowering medication. And I want to go deeper down the rabbit hole because I don't get a chance to talk about this a lot, but cholesterol is an absolute, and you, you set me up perfect.

29:19Cholesterol is a completely and totally meaningless data point. Here's why. In the absence of plaque, and we're going to go deeper on that in a second, it means nothing, right? The only thing that means something in the cholesterol evaluation, and again, we're talking about lipid particles in the body, okay? Fat dobles between HDL and LDL, high density lipoprotein versus low density is triglycerides. Triglycerides are a measure of the bad fat that is emulsified in your visceral body fat store. So the more body fat, again, visceral body fat, which is the kind that sits around your organs, which is the really unhealthy fat, will lead to the higher levels of triglyceride.

30:07If you have high levels of triglyceride, that's bad and you're at a seriously high risk level. But guess what, bro? That's completely changeable. You can get on a diet, change your lifestyle, lose body fat, lose your levels of inflammation. And I've seen guys, no exaggeration, bro, with 500 triglyceride levels down to 50 in four months. So it's completely lifestyle dependent. You can change all this. But to your point, I've seen Greek people who have 600 levels of cholesterol naturally because genetic, right? They don't have any issue whatsoever because they're active. They're not fat. They're not inflamed.

30:47Now back to the plaque, because this is also important. And a lot of people miss this and 90 % of cardiovascular doctors miss this. If you don't have any plaque and you're healthy, what is the risk, right? Even if you do have plaque, and this is what blows people away. If you are fit and you have genetic levels of plaque, then how's that going to affect you, right? Because you have to be unfit and make a sudden movement, which is again, average American or average person in the West who's obese and doesn't exercise to have that plaque break off and block, you know, an artery or block an arterial vein or something to give you a, you know, either a blood clot, which is deep, a deep vein thrombosis or a heart attack.

31:31So like I always tell people like this whole like observing plaque, observing APO or APOB and all our lipoprotein particle sizes is just a big scam for cardiovascular doctors and of course prescribing statins to make money because people don't really understand you're right dude like if you go to the doctor and you have a 195 or 200 level of cholesterol it's instantaneous oh i'm gonna put you on the statin yeah and if you don't do any investigation and you're just the average joe or jane and you don't you're not ryan haley or jay campbell you're not gonna go deeper down the rabbit hole and investigate whether you need it you're like okay dog put me on it and then Bro, like you said, it makes you worse.

32:12I've written many articles on statins. Statins are the worst drug. Well, probably next to the COVID vax. It's the worst drug in the history of mankind. It literally lowers testosterone. It causes brain issues. Like it literally screws with dopamine signaling. You become more depressed, lower testosterone, fatter, more inflamed. I mean, they are horrible, horrible drugs. Dude, I don't even know what the percentage of men on statins are over the age of 50. but I bet you it's 60%. Oh yeah. That, that probably even sounds low to me. I bet it's higher than that. Crazy. I mean, the way they give them out like candy at parties, it's not early, dude.

32:48Yeah. Yeah. Um, I want to talk about, um, I want to talk about GLP ones for a minute for sure. Um, because came out super drug. Then the next wave of, of news articles we got was don't leave the height. We're actually killing you. Yeah. And now and now the narrative has kind of from from seemingly the people that are trying to actually help has kind of come back around to. Yep. Well, yeah, there's these benefits to to potentially with weight loss. But now we're looking at things like the reduction in cancer markers, elevated brain functionality. um so so can we let's get into like is is let's say you're optimizing your health uh from the standpoint of not not just trying to lose weight maybe you have a little bit of weight you want to lose whatever but you're not is is a glp1 something i should look at uh to add into my uh mix to to overall optimize my longevity and health dude i love you bro nobody ever asked me questions like this so i just did a huge presentation on glps from one of my speaking engagements for this seminar and i'll just say this like i'm obviously very very pro glp now with that said you have to understand how to do them and you said it exactly right they came out they were all the rage people lost weight and then the sheeple let's just call them the sheeple yeah who are working with the sheeple doctors did everything wrong and me and let me define what everything wrong is they don't eat enough protein.

34:25They don't lift weights. They take way too high of a dose. As I always say in big pharma versus Jay Campbell, the mantra is start high, go higher. In the Jay Campbell world, everything, supplements, peptides, hormones is start low, go slow. It's as low as possible and then go slow and evaluate because you are a unique biochemically individual person and what works for you might not work for Ryan or Jay. You have to start at the lowest titrated doses as possible and then go from there. But again, in big pharma world, they give everybody too much, start high, go higher. And why is that, Ryan? Because that's how they make money.

35:01That's how they line their pockets. That's how the pharmaceutical companies make more money. So to your point, when you do it right, they're the greatest interventions in the history of medicine. And this isn't just my opinion. This is based on the amount of money that Manjaro and Wagovi are making. Last year, Manjaro made$6 billion. Wagovi is higher than that. And I don't know the actual statistic, but I know it's a bigger GLP prescribed. So in the people that do the right things, and again, I'll define it again because people don't do the right things, eat enough protein, lift weights, microdose, literally microdose, which is usually going against the recommendation of the quack doctor that wrote you the script.

35:43And you do this right. And again, you proceed with caution. It's insane. And to your point, it's not just metabolic improvement and weight loss. It's changing and rewiring the brains. People are recovering from complete obsessive compulsive disorders and addictions, porn addictions, alcohol addictions, smoking addictions, neurodivergence. I mean, bro, there are studies coming out now every day that are showing the amazing profound nature of these drugs. But again, as I always say and give Tim Ferris credit, the difference between a pill and a poison is the dosage. And if you're taking too high of a dose and you're not doing any of the things right, which as you know, is the majority of America because they want an easy button and a holy grail, you know, magic bullet for everything.

36:35They don't want to do the work. Then you're going to only end up with side effects. And the negative things that you see in the media about muscle loss and wagovi ass and wagovi chin and wagovi face and wagovi butt and all this stuff is real but none of that stuff has to happen and i've worked with thousands of people who are using glp1s productively their lives are changing i mean i have thousands and thousands of women who write me every single day saying you have no idea like what a what a microdose of terzapatite has done for my life it's eliminated food noise i've lost 30 pounds i've lost 20 pounds.

37:08I've lost 60 pounds. And this was weight that I never got off after my second baby. This is weight that I could never get off after I was 28 years old. You know, so like profound biological and physiological change, not to mention all the amazing things that's going on the brain. But as again, it's a caveat. If you don't do all the other things right when you're taking them, you're going to have issues. And so it's who do you get your information from? You're not going to get good information from a garden variety doctor who writes you a script for Wadobi. It's not going to happen. Yeah, because there's no follow on.

37:42I mean, that's the other part, too. There's no follow on. So, OK, so I'm very interested personally in this idea of micro dosing GLP ones. And and like, how do you go about it? Like, again, then don't don't give away any secret sauce to what you do. No, I will. I'll open book. I'll tell anybody. So I mean, like, so it's such a great question because there's two options. So option one, and this is what most people do, is go to a doctor, get a script. If you're not fat and diabetic, you're getting absolutely anally raped because, as you know, they're charging an arm and a leg for these like one month of dosage of terzapatide, which is a which is a dual stage GLP-1 agonist, which means it suppresses appetite and increases resting metabolic rate by increasing glucogen can be twelve hundred to sixteen hundred dollars for a month.

38:33Right. And in America today, if you're not having your insurance pay for that or having a copayment for that, there are very few families that can pay that. Right. So that's option one. You either have a diet. And then there's obviously some people that get a diabetic doctor to write them a script for type two diabetes. And so they can kind of hack the system. If you have a doctor that you're friends with, there are people doing that. They also do that with Wigovia or semaglutide. That's option one. And so it either comes down to you're hacking the system and you're getting a script from your doctor who gets you a compounded medication or format of that.

39:07Or option two, which is where I kind of come in, my company, BioLongevity Labs, comes in as you buy it from a research company. And if you buy it from a research company, you literally can buy these things for one tenth. And sometimes when there's discounts and sales, they're running one twentieth of the price. So here's the difference, though. If you're buying it from your doctor and it's coming in a compounded format, there's nothing you have to do except inject it, right? Having somebody, either yourself or your mom or your wife or your husband or whatever, or a nurse practitioner that's friends with you or something like that, they inject it.

39:41If you're doing it microdose, you got to do it every other day. You're using a small insulin needle or even a medical grade pen. It's no big deal. if you're coming from the research side you got to understand a how to reconstitute a peptide which is not hard but some people make a big deal out of it because they're like oh my god i got a math you know what i mean like i got to do math i got to understand what a milligram versus a microgram is i got to understand an insulin needle i got to understand reconstitution blah blah blah so they make it a lot harder than it is um but if you do learn that and you take the time and obviously people like me have courses.

40:14I have massive amounts of free information, free videos, all sorts of stuff. My book is online. There's a lot of stuff you can learn, bro. And one day, it's not hard. And thankfully, you know, and I say this not for a financial or personal benefit, but I say thankfully, because people are becoming more empowered, more and more people every day are like, fuck big pharma, fuck my doctor, fuck this outrageous shit fees and stuff. I'm going to buy this myself and I'm going to do, I'm going to research on myself. I'm going to be my own guinea pig and hamster. And they're learning to do it on themselves.

40:47And so my industry right now and my, my vertical is just exploding. Now we need to mention there is a triple stage agonist GLP, which is called retitrutide, which in the research community is like the biggest seller in the world right now. My company sells that bro. That is the most profound drug in the history of mankind. There's nothing like this drug. It's a triple stage agonist, which means it suppresses appetite, increases resting metabolic rate, and also activates brown fat, which means for most of you guys that are familiar with cold plunges and doing that stuff, taking cold showers, that turns on brown fat every single day.

41:26So when you're taking retitrutide in a tiny, tiny microdose, and I'll actually show you my medical grade pen here in a second. Dude, if you take this every other day of your life, you'll be shredded. Not only will you be shredded, you will have incredible focus. You will have no food noise. You will be a different human being. If you have vices like gambling, smoking weed, vaping, drinking too much alcohol, like women drink too much wine socially at night, it will stop you from doing all that stuff. I mean, it literally is a godsend. Every single day I get messages from people all across the world who said, you know, dude, dude, I like you and you're a great marketer and you talk about these things, but I didn't really believe about Red or True Tide, but I've been using it or my wife's been using it and it's a miracle.

42:12Bro, my 16-year-old daughter, who is a beast gymnast, been exercising her whole life, started lifting weights with me and my wife when she was 11. She's very regimented, very disciplined. I mean, obviously she has me and my wife as parents, right? So she's got great leadership and role models, but I put her on Roto-True Tide in the end of January and an absolute like one 50th, one 50th of the recommended weekly dose that a sheeple would take. And dude, when we came back, we were gone a month. We were in Australia, New Zealand. I was like, what the hell happened? I mean, her body morphed. I mean, she's already muscular and fit, but she's got like the genetics where she puts weight on in her hips, her hamstring and her glute high.

42:57And so she was gaining weight down there. Now, granted, I wouldn't recommend most people put their 16 year old daughter on these things, but my daughter is very regimented. She's also in competitive cheer. So she practices every day. She knows how to eat. She knows how to like inject herself. I had to show her how to do it a couple of times a week. She's doing it twice a week. It transformed her body. And dude, and that was in two months. And I've seen thousands of people around the world who have transformed their bodies and transformed their minds, which is to me the most important thing because it's the gateway.

43:29It's like radically making you stop making poor choices. And I'm telling you, it's the greatest drug ever. Now, for the people watching this, they're like, why have we not heard about this? It's not FDA approved. It's an Eli Lilly drug. It's already through stage three trials. But the whole compounding FDA approval process, as you know, Ryan, is so broken. We live in such a golden age now, and the research community are putting things out years in advance of the FDA approving the drugs. There's no risk. I mean, there's no side effects from this drug. Like the only thing you would get from a side effect standpoint is if you were retarded and you took too much and it slammed your metabolism so much that you had to sit on the toilet and have liquid poop.

44:14I mean, that would be and again, you would have to be really dumb if you did something like that. But I mean, dude, I'm telling you, there are no side effects. People actually pay a lot of money to get to liquid poop because of the constipation problems they have. I'm telling you, dude, I've never in my life, I've used pretty much everything. Obviously, I'm an OG biohacker. I've experimented on myself. I've done every drug known to man for the most part. I've never seen anything like retitrutide. It is a game changer. There are already now four stage GLP-1s in the pipeline. And just so people know what that means, like it would be one beyond retitrutide because run of true tide doesn't have an anti-catabolic, which means a muscle builder added to it.

44:57So you can only imagine where we're going with this biochemical parade of things that we have that's from an opportunity standpoint. But dude, we're just in an incredible place right now in the world. And so I love that drug and I think better things are coming. Yeah, sometimes I think about like, what would the world be if it wasn't for podcasts? And I don't mean that to be so trite. I mean, so you think about how many people like you, what you're sharing is information that even a decade ago, we would have zero access to zero, zero access to this information. And not that anyone has to believe you, but I guarantee that someone's mind is starting to go, hmm, man, I have had brain fog.

45:41I have struggled to build muscle mass. I have struggled with energy. I do have that little pouch that I can't get rid of. Right. Like, and I just, I just, it's why I do this show. It's why my show is so diverse. And the guests that I have, you know, all really focused around performance and pushing forward in our lives, but it's cause this is the kind of shit that we can't get access to. So, so I, I want to, you, you mentioned alcohol and marijuana and I have met, especially since we became legal and I live in New York state. And now, you know, it seems like everybody's taking a gummy or smoking a little joint or whatever, right.

46:14drinking a drink and and then mixing that with alcohol and now it used to be like oh i have some fun on the weekends and now it's like this is what i need to wind down at the end of the night so i'd really i'm interested in we've talked so much about things that create positive change in our lives i'm very interested in the reality around alcohol and marijuana and the impact on what we've just discussed so far dude you're amazing in your questions dude you're really good at this. I appreciate these questions. I don't get a chance to talk to really smart people who really ask great questions. I do a lot of podcasts, but you're awesome at this.

46:48I appreciate that. And I'm very unfiltered as you can tell. All of that stuff is absolutely poison. People are now living in a world where they have so much anxiety, again, due to the attack, right? Everywhere they go, they feel like shit. They're depressed. They're not hormonally optimized. They have low energy. So it's like they come home from work and they're already half dead. And so it's like, what am I going to do to make my life not feel? So it's like, I'm taking these gummies, I'm hitting this vape, I'm smoking this weed, I'm drinking the wine because my life fucking sucks. Like I literally am disconnected.

47:29I have no spiritual awareness. I hate my job. I'm not happy in my marriage. My kids don't love me. I don't give them enough time, blah, blah, blah. I mean, come up with whatever. And so people literally make this sad, unconscious. It's not conscious. It's an unconscious choice to literally numb themselves from reality. And bro, I've been saying this forever. I don't care if you do a little bit of recreational weed, take some MDMA with your wife to reconnect and go out or something on a weekend and just, you know, have loving intimacy or something like that. But like every single day adding in weed or smoking vape or, you know, eating gummies or whatever it is.

48:13I mean, people are just lost. Like they truly don't have connection to what is important. And obviously, you know, if we want to go down the spiritual path real quick, like all of us are souls having physical experiences, incarnating in these physical bodies to evolve and to grow and evolving and growing is not disconnecting. It's like I always tell people like the pain is what sharpens us. The contrast of quote unquote things that we label negative is what allows our soul or our spirit to grow and evolve. It's not avoiding the pain, right? And getting high or disconnecting from six glasses of red wine.

48:58And women are doing this nowadays. I mean, most people, bro, are just in suffering. they're in pain they're not hormonally optimized they feel like shit at all times and so the only way out at night is to do all these things and you know i've been saying this for a long time when i saw this coming with this legalization of weed and legalization of like thc and vapes and all these things it was just like a clear indication that whoever controls this realm is just making people dumber. Yeah. You know, we didn't talk about AI, but all of these people that are embracing AI to think for them are becoming dumber.

49:39Yeah. Like I can show you statistics. I mean, I work with a lot of some of the top copywriters in the world and these people are having moral dilemmas now because they're being expected to turn around copy, which used to take them weeks in days, if not hours, because all these people are using AI to replace human thought and human discernment and human critical thinking. And bro, AI does not replace that. We are creating a world of retarded people who are medicated and disconnected. And it's just sad because it's not the way. I mean, I could get on and pontificate this. I'll be honest with you, you're in the right spot because I have so many thoughts on this particular topic.

50:21Enormous. I'm a Christian, enormous believer in God, um, was raised Catholic. Don't love Catholicism, although I still go occasionally. Um, but I have a very distinct, real and consistent relationship with God. And it's one of the reasons that I've always struggled. And this is tangential, but I'll make it brief because I do have, I have two more compounds that I want to ask you about and get your take on. Yeah. I've always struggled with meditation because, Because I do believe meditation works, right? But I feel like people replace a relationship with God with meditation because it feels easier and cleaner.

51:01Because it's, you know, they're, wow, there's some guy in the clouds, which is the most trite way of dismissing having a relationship with God. But the reason I've always struggled with meditation is you're clearing your mind and you're entering this space, but then you're not filling it. And if you are filling it, you're filling it with your own, with you, and in a very selfish manner. And I've found and try to practice the idea that when you meditate, if you can then fill that space, if you meditate, it was just really just prayer. You can fill that space with God. And all of a sudden you feel this sense of connection, even if you're alone.

51:35And that really what I think everything, this, this, this sense of unhappy of anxiety of stress that you just, that you just described is low at its core. It's loneliness. it's it's it's this empty it's why it's it's why you have educated humans arguing that men can be women like when you see that you're like where could where could that thought come from right like and nothing against the trans community nothing against i have no problem with that i i like my belief as an american is you get to do your shit i get to do my shit as long as you don't put your shit on me and i don't put it on you we're all good right okay there are only two sexes Ryan.

52:15Yeah, but there's only two sex. I just I don't understand how we can how this is even a fucking discussion. I just don't get it. Like, dude, you want it? So one of my best friends growing up, his brother was we called them cross dressers back in the day. Yeah, but he was the number one cross dressing dancer in New York City. He was a fucking celebrity. He was. So he would come up to Albany where I live, which is two and a half hours north of the city. Yep. And he would do these shows and we would go and they were fucking incredible and no one messed with us and it was fun and everyone's laughing there's gay dudes and dudes dressed like chicks and it was all good right and but they weren't none of them thought they were women right exactly it was just like i don't understand where we're at but that mental illness is a different thing um i i want i want to come back to um two two specific compounds you can take them whichever water and spend as much time as you want, but I'm very interested in nicotine and particularly the pouch delivery system, right?

53:16And psilocybin. I'm interested in those two compounds and where they fall, valuable, not valuable, use cases, et cetera. So I used psilocybin yesterday. So you know that there's value in psilocybin. I don't use psilocybin regularly. I use it for ceremonial, sacred ceremonial type things. like again i was here in a really awesome it ended yesterday but i was here in a five-day retreat with a bunch of different people from all over the world uh and at the end we did a sacred ceremony of five meo dmt you know for people that wanted to partake it was not forced uh and then uh a chocolate mushrooms and we went into the cenotes so we were literally connected to the jungle and i mean yeah so amazing powerful and so spiritual and i mean talk about meeting god but um so i love both of these products and I have spoken.

54:07Did you actually hear my stuff about nicotine? Is that? Well, I didn't know. I'll be honest with you. I went very, this is God connect you and me in this conversation because I'm a huge nicotine proponent. I've written deeply about nicotine. So when I say this, a lot of people get really upset because they don't really understand what's going on because they've been brainwashed. But the fear of nicotine and the addictive nature of nicotine is actually all fabricated. And let me explain what I mean by that. Nicotine has been used in shamanic circles for hundreds of thousands of years. In fact, in the Amazon rainforest in Peru, various other parts of Latin America, the ayahuasca, which are the people that provide ayahuasca in ceremony to the indigenous, to the cultures, the groups and stuff like that.

54:59And now the ones that even train American people to become shamans, have been using it for thousands of years. In America, this addictive nature of nicotine became known and it is real because the cigarette companies, the alcohol and tobacco lobby, put all these chemical messengers and highly addictive substances inside cigarettes, tobacco pouches and wads and all that stuff in the last 40 years. And it's that is what people are addicted to. It's not actually nicotine itself because nicotine as a drug, a biologically classified drug, the alphaloid nicotogenic receptors in our body actually do amazing things.

55:48And the reason the Iowa he's crows take it is because it's a very powerful nootropic have you ever had i'm sorry to interrupt you have you ever had nicotine mixed with mom bay yes i have yes yes that's one of my first so i'm hyper i'm hyperactive bipolar okay and i found that um um i found that mixing mom bay with nicotine yeah is like incredible you talk about like dialed in focus without any of the uh caffeine yeah no big jittery no i mean Don't say the androinergic stimulation. I didn't mean to interrupt you. I just. You're good. It's good. I actually have a supplement that we just launched like two weeks ago that I'll have to send you.

56:30It's called BioMind. And it's the strongest, by far the strongest, like over the counter oral nootropic on planet Earth. And it has dihexa, which is obviously a peptide. It has J47, which is something like what you just talked about. And then it also has new pept in it. And it's just, I mean, for someone like you, like you said, based on your clinical diagnosis, this thing will be amazing for you. But anyway, but getting back to nicotine, it's been vilified, abhorred. All these people think that they have addictions to nicotine when it's the chemicals. It's the chemical messengers. You know, again, it's the denatured versions of it.

57:08So as long as you get pure form of nicotine and you don't take, again, difference between a pill and a poison is the dosage massive amounts you're not going to notice any kind of like oh my god i gotta do it 12 times a day now again there are people out there that are addicted to these substances and it's because they started with cigarettes or chew or pouches which again have the same chemical additives into it and they were at massive high dosages of that and they never weaned themselves off of it but if you just use it like you do it you know again recreationally to stimulate from a nootropic standpoint to improve mood, improve focus.

57:47They're amazing. Now, psilocybin, there's a big issue with psilocybin abuse. There's way too many people that microdose every day, bro. There's all these companies out there that are giving gummies, lozenges, you know, pills, all this shit. I've seen it all. Half of them want me to promote for them and i'm laughing all the time because like if you've ever met somebody who's microdosing every day you start realizing that they're not all there you know what i mean like they have loops and lapses in their prefrontal low prefrontal cortex because they've been abusing psilocybin and look here's what i'll say any of these drugs regardless whether psilocybin mdma the toad ayahuasca ibogaine i mean you name it and theogens and then obviously synthesized big pharma drugs like adderall uh crystal meth fentramine any of these things if you take it in too high of a dosage for too long of a time you're gonna have problems what goes up must come down you cannot hack you cannot beat different receptors in your brain by doing this drug and then doing this drug and like and I see all these people in the biohacking industry saying, oh, dude, I only need four hours a day of sleep because I can do this.

59:09And then I can take a half of modafinil or whatever. I mean, again, every single one of those drugs that are classified as nootropics and theogens, whatever, all work and stimulate the same receptors in the brain. Okay. And if you overstimulate them, you oversaturate them, you're going to have problems. So to me, it's always moderation. I think a psilocybin again with a loved a loved one you know in an initiatory thing where you're with a bunch of men and you're it's a camaraderie thing you know you're in a jungle you know you're connected everybody's energy field is connected I think those things are very sacred very powerful there's a lot of benefit to those things but again you can't do them very often I think nicotine my wife chews one milligram nicotine gum, you know, whenever she needs like a pickup, you know, in the afternoon, sometimes again, if you keep your dosages light and you don't become physically or physiologically like adapted to her, like I have to have it three times a day.

1:00:08There's no harm in those things, but psilocybin, I see, you know, we should probably expand because I see a lot of people now also becoming addicted to ketamine, you know, ketamine in this like, you know, super micro dosages bros i mean i see all these people promoting this and yes ketamine is therapeutic and healing just like mdma is for people that have ptsd or post-traumatic you know stress disorder or actually brain injury from concussive blasts a lot of military law enforcement but again not all the time and i see so many people and this is big in the biohacking space bro you're going to probably have people on your podcast that are going to come on that you're going to interview and you're going to be like, what the fuck did I do?

1:00:48This person, something's wrong with them. They're addicted to ketamine. There are a lot of people that are in our space now that are taking too much psilocybin and too much ketamine and they literally have delays. There's literally shit going on. So like, again, I'm not judging you or condemning you if you listen to this or you're like, oh yeah, so-and-so's like that. It's just get off, get help. There are things that can get you off these things. But again, you just got to use these things in moderation. You cannot let them control your life. And too many people wake up every day and take their psilocybin or their ketamine because they're like, I got to get through the day and this is how I do it.

1:01:22And it's no different than the people vaping, you know, taking Ambien's, you know, taking painkillers or whatever it is. I mean, again, it's just an escape, dude. They're disconnecting and escaping. Yeah. I could talk to you all day, man. I, I, I, this is, this stuff fascinates me. I actually, uh, I did do deep dives into your YouTube channel. I didn't get into the nicotine stuff. Uh, cause I love the way you talk about it. I mean, I think it's very real. It's very actionable. And I think, um, you're really dialed into, to, to certainly the way I think people who want to take ownership of their health need to think about these things.

1:02:00So I appreciate the hell out of you. I want to let everyone know that, um, I'm going to get some, some links to some of the stuff that Jay talked about and make sure they're in the descriptions also I want to make sure we get them over to you so they can check them out where's the best place someone who's listening who's like I got to get into this guy's world what's the best way to do that so great thing and by the way I'm happy to give you a affiliate link with bio longevity labs too so you can get any supplements that people can buy and stuff from you and we'll get that separated after the show but the number one place people can find me is my website it's jaycampbell jay and then campbell like the soup spelled out dot com it's probably now in the top three websites in the world for peptides, hormones, fitness, fat loss, all these crazy things that we talked about here today.

1:02:43Last month, we had 65 ,000 unique users, which is a record. And then my new company, which we just launched in November of last year, is called Bio Longevity Labs. And if you use the coupon code J-A-Y-C, you can save 15 % off. You can edit this if you want to have a code for yourself, but Ryan's code, whatever it'll be, will be 15 % off too. We are the number one product seller right now in the world of small molecules, like all the most advanced bleeding edge products for fat loss, muscle gain, cognition improvement, skin quality improvement, hair regrowth, you name it, we have it, even gut and disease fixing, stuff like that.

1:03:23We have a lot of different new, very bleeding edge products. So again, that's biolongevitylabs.com. And then if you wanna connect with me on social media, my handle is for everything, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, X is where you'll find me most is Jay Campbell. And then the number three, three, three. Got it, dude. Appreciate you. Keep doing this work. Guys, highly recommend you jump over to jaycampbell.com. Check it out. And I will make sure I have all the links to the things that we discussed in the show notes. So just scroll down, whether you're on YouTube or whatever you listen to. Jay, appreciate it.

1:03:57Ryan, thank you, brother. That was amazing.

1:04:08In a crude laboratory in the basement of his home. Yeah!

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