E116 - You're NOT Lazy: My System To Build Relentless Discipline & Toughness |Adam Radcliffe

0:28You deploy your parachute at about 4 ,000, 5 ,000 opportunity or took life by the balls and actually went for it but i wanted to be that guy that showed people you can travel and do extreme adventurous things but also have that aesthetic background as well you have to find the thing that makes you want to do it you can deal with any amount of suffering like in the moment but when you extrapolate how long you're going to be suffering for into the future that's when your mind is like i can't deal with this have you ever had a sketchy situation yeah two sketchy ones one of them is really embarrassing so i've never I've never spoken about it.

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2:49So I was working in the corporate world on the corporate ladder, 25 years old, and just like deeply unhappy with what my life looked like if I kept going on the same path. So I was 25 and I was like, I could easily, you know, stay in this job for 10 plus years. I'll be 35 and I won't have achieved any of the things that the childhood version of me thought I would. So I was like, I always try and make my decisions based on how am I going to feel about this decision when I'm 90 years old? Like on my deathbed, will I think, you know, you cowered away from an opportunity or or you know you took life by the balls and actually actually went for it so I was like I'm gonna leave this job what do I do do I get another job that I improve slightly like enjoy slightly more and still maybe hate my life or just like aim for the stars and see what happens and so I wanted to be a full-time adventurer help people other people with their physiques as well as like obviously my own um and I thought let's one-way flight to the Philippines start doing more difficult and more difficult things and that was three years ago and then obviously fast forward to right now two months after rowing across the atlantic ocean wow did you did you go to university yeah went to luffra okay well it's very that's the number one sports yeah i did uh engineering actually but yeah i did a bit of sports there as well did you in the north where'd you go i went to newcastle okay yeah yeah but how old are you now 28 28 yeah so i'm 35 and like back then there was no social media there was no like making money online i think there probably was a little bit but not to the extent that there is now yeah so I went to university just because everybody went to university exactly the thing to do yeah I guess at that point 18 years old you don't really know what you should be doing or what you want to do just do what everyone else does go to university I'm glad I did go there at the time because it was fun yeah and I met a load of great people but I think I just definitely chose the wrong degree what did you it was economics and business management okay yeah so which is i just wanted to learn how to run a business yeah from people that don't run their own yeah exactly so i i've gone back i would have done something like sports science at least i would have used that for sure uh alternatively just not go to university and just start coaching people i have the exact same approach to glad that i did it because i did a lot of learning and growing up in that time but and it was just because everyone went to university you know you do your a-levels then what's next like there's not there was no options now at least kids have got like you know going into e-commerce or or whatever and they can work for themselves and they've got way more opportunities but well i think they've just announced that the university prices are going up again in the uk such a scam it's just like are you you're just putting everybody off from going to university of course you do like there's some um i don't know jobs where you you do have to go to university yeah like chartered accountant or a lawyer or whatever yeah but if you just want to learn how to run a business or even just be an influencer of some sort yeah you don't necessarily need to go for sure right so how did you after university you did the thing where you applied for a lot of different jobs then you got the job you wanted i guess to some extent applied for two the second one was like well-paying it was like operations management um and i was like screw it let's just dig in because i'd done a bit of traveling in southeast asia before and only two months but i was like right feel like a bum i need to get to work yeah get into the business world and see what happens so then went and did that job for two and a half years and enjoyed it at the start and then you start to see through all the corporate bullshit and uh and i was doing night shift for the last year as well so going to sleep at uh starting work at 7 p.m and then and then going to sleep at 7 a.m like 12 hour shifts and waking up at 4 p.m and uh that's the most that's one way social yeah exactly how the hell are you supposed to like have any kind of relationship no you can't So I was like, I try and go on dates on like a Friday or whatever.

6:34And, you know, you've had three hours sleep and you want to be going to sleep at 5am when it's not very social. So, yeah, I was like, this just isn't going to work for life. Quite good if you want to go to Bender, though. True. Yeah, lots of people did that. You're the last one to dance for, like, go on, let's keep going. Yeah, get the energy up. Exactly. So how did you make that decision to be like, nah, screw this. I'm not doing this anymore, even though it's like well paid. yeah there's security there how did you decide to just sack it off i knew in my heart that i couldn't keep going like genuinely if i'd seen a psychiatrist they would have said you're like acutely depressed i'm sure because you know what like wasn't like smiling wasn't happy there was like two months straight we all go through periods where you're just a bit down for a week or whatever this was the first period in my life where i was like it's been a couple of months now something's wrong your body's telling you this isn't feasible um and so like i said a minute ago it was a case of I can either I'm going to change my job I can't keep doing this but I was financially tied into having to do it otherwise I would have had I would have lost a lot of money so I was like you know I can go and do another job in something slightly more interesting but why not just go for it now like chase adventures and and and do a bit of traveling in the process and work hard and build up your social media yeah and then see where you land and if you run out of money just get a normal job after that you know did you so you saved up before you left yeah exactly saved up and i had like i was like 50 of this i'm going to spend on traveling and building social media and see where we are in a year or two and then the other 50 was like if it doesn't work at all which which you know you have those self-limiting beliefs like i had no idea that you know i'll be sat doing this podcast three years ago obviously um yeah so you you kind of had a bit i had a bit of a backup of here's a bit of money to buy yourself a car again if you need to if you need to get another job well that's the thing it's like when people are afraid to take that leap or risk what's the worst that can happen yeah go back to doing what you were doing before and then exactly reassess maybe try again yeah and one thing i saw actually at work was there were so many people that got themselves into you know marriages first generation immigrants like with kids at like 25 30 years old and so that's when your situation is different you know you've got dependents and you're like you can't take that risk so you've really got a like while you've got everyone says this while you've got the freedom like take the risks then because you know after a while once you've got a mortgage or kids it's much harder yeah it's much harder to relocate an entire family yes exactly because then you got to think well is it going to be a suitable place for the kids yeah is your wife going to be happy because i know a few people who have moved over here but they've really had to persuade their partner like you will enjoy it eventually yeah for sure but they come out here and they just like literally don't have any friends same thing with the kids i mean i don't know i would assume the schools are good here but are you gonna keep the kids here over the summer when it's like roasting exactly gonna travel are they gonna play football on the weekends like it's gonna be a different shelter to what we both experienced these are all things i've not really thought about too much but from what i've heard the people here say it's it's really good yeah in fact there's a load of people who have actually relocated to abu dhabi because abu dhabi is like a more chilled out version of dubai yeah it still has everything kind of available like in terms of the quality of the services and infrastructure and everything so could be an option single life here married life in yeah i'm sure a few people do that and keep that a secret as well it's what simultaneously um we're in different circles mike so yeah yeah so did you go to you start off in the philippines yeah started off in the philippines i just i was like i need to get good at as much and as many things as possible so i got my solo skydiving license in the uk before um then i went such a random that's number one priority i'm all i saw the skydiving i saw mission impossible fallout with tom cruise and i was like that's sick yeah you know i've got to start there um i don't know have you done a tandem yet i've done the one here yeah um on the palm which is it is cool yeah like i do think it's an experience everybody should have but i'm i wasn't in a rush to do it again We've got to get you to do a solo.

10:43It's different because you're in charge of your own fate then as well. I don't know. I feel like just like that. You'll probably know. I don't know. You probably won't. But once you hit your 30s, I very much became a lot more risk averse. Yeah. With all these, not extreme sports, but just like things like skiing. Yeah. If I go skiing in my 20s, I would try and do all these jumps and like learn new things. Now I'm like, just don't fuck yourself up. For sure. because if i injure myself and i can't go to the gym i'm gonna be in a serious situation that start that flip is that switch is starting to flip yeah no oh for you yeah for me even like because facing that row which i'm sure we'll talk about the atlantic row in the build-up to that i was like there was a for context there's a seven percent chance of death based on previous attempts of that crossing i was like you know do you really are you really going to throw your life away for this and you start to put risk averseness or willingness to take risks into perspective so with the skydiving yeah we'll finish up on this yeah yeah um have you like used it at all have you what have you used it in like in what modern life i don't know it's good fun like if you need a bit of a pick me up and you're just in a bit of a rut caffeine's not doing it yeah exactly jump out of plane so i've done 70 now did one here last week i'm gonna do a couple next week okay um it's just there's no feeling like it when you're in the door um in the plane right on the way up and you're in the door about to jump out you just like senses are so heightened um that's the most scared i've ever been as well you remember the plane ride on the way up yeah like yeah everybody on the plane yeah it's just like you know like everybody's shitting themselves basically yeah like even i was okay because you know i i knew it wasn't just me there's somebody a very experienced person attached to me so i know everything's gonna be fine yeah but still it's just like there isn't really any other option exactly you're you're going out of the door yeah very high up i said to myself in on my first ever jump because i never did a tandem i just went straight into solo but that you got people holding you so you get like stabilizers and in the plane after like five minutes i was like right we're stuck now we're in the plane we have to do it i'm never doing this again i'm petrified then obviously you come down perspective changes have have you ever done the um the artificial wind tunnel no i'm keen to at some point because they have one here yeah um but that is extremely hard if you want to talk about like learning to do new things that is really hard because you're basically trying to teach yourself how to steer whilst there's all the wind resistance hitting you so like literally just the slightest adjustment of your hands will send you spiraling in circles and then you also have to make sure you know you don't go too high or too low obviously in the in the tunnel yeah for sure so that was um i was really fucking hard people don't understand before you do a skydive on your own or go in the wind tunnel how symmetrical and balanced you have to be because it can go wrong you can get flipped really really easily it's the same in the air but obviously on a tunnel you've got a tiny circumference to stay within have you ever had a sketchy situation yeah um two one yeah two sketchy ones like i'll talk about one of them one of those really embarrassing so i've never never spoken about it?

13:56Shots. Yeah, no, no, I wouldn't speak about that if that happened. No, so I hadn't jumped for six months and you have to do like a check jump every time you've not jumped for six months. This was back in England. And so on the check jump, they make you prove you can do loads of stuff. So you have to do a practice touch of your pilot shoot to make sure you know where you're, how to deploy your canopy. You have to do a back somersault. You have to track, which is when you like accelerate through the air to get away from danger. So I had to demonstrate all of these things and i was a bit nervous because it had been like six or eight months or something and as i jump out the plane i've not done a practice touch of my of my pilot shoot since i learned years before so my instinct muscle memory was just grab it and throw it but so i got out the plane i'm at 14 000 feet still and i just grab it and i've got it in my hands i'm like oh shit like i can either let this go now fail the jump waste 200 quid and i was like i don't want to waste the money yeah um or and these all these thoughts go through your mind in a fraction of second or i can try and jam it back in and continue the jump um so that's what i did i tried to i'll send you the video if you want you can b-roll it is so embarrassing so i like try and put it back in and the instructors i'm jumping out with someone he's looking at me like what are you doing i've never seen anyone try and put it back into the the uh the parachute again so then he comes around and luckily obviously i failed the jump in the end he comes around and then this the pilot shoot the way a parachute works is you have this mini parachute that you throw out first and then it that catches enough air to bring the big one out um so luckily it kind of i didn't jam it in properly and it just like wisped its way past my leg correctly and then came out and as i was trying to jam it back in i was in like a downward spin so that was a heart in mouth moment and stupid of me sure so it's a good job there was someone else like if there's no one else jumping with you you'd be fucked no because he didn't help he just kind of was there watching but i could have laughing it could have yeah exactly like what is this kid doing um but it could have gone, could have gone much worse.

15:48Yeah. So I was lucky to get away with that. And then the other story is the other story is social media. I can do it as well. So I was learning to track and you track at the end of a jump to get away from other skydivers. So you jump at 15 ,000 feet, you deploy your parachute at about 4 ,000, 5 ,000, depending on how comfortable you are. Um, and so at 5 ,000 feet, we, we broke off and I had to track and show this instructor that I could track properly. So I'm, I'm doing that for maybe four or five seconds and every five seconds you drop a thousand feet um so i do my track and then i go a bit unstable and i'm now at four thousand feet and i'm like trying to track really hard to show them how good i am and then all of a sudden like you said in the wind tunnel just flipped so i'm on my back at now three and a half thousand feet and you just got this burning image of the ground behind you so i'm like spinning on my back at three and a half thousand feet and the instructor's thinking like there's nothing i can do you've got to sort yourself out so then you just have to have that presence of mind to be like okay don't worry about it like flip around so at three and a half thousand feet like i've practiced flipping around before so then at three thousand feet i'm now okay don't even look at the outer meter don't even look at the ground just get it done as quickly as possible flip around slow yourself down and then deploy your parachute and then i was under the parachute at like two thousand so i was like okay do you have like no fear i think i feel fear in the same way as everyone else but it keeps me alive you know yeah yeah so so you were doing that for a bit you probably tried a few other things what what got you wanting to do extreme sailing challenges rowing rowing challenges yeah i think i had a bit of a chip on my shoulder that i wanted to prove how tough i was to myself um also when i came into the social media world like there's always going to be people in better shape than you sitting across the table from one and there's always going to be people more adventurous than you like that go into the far reaches of the amazon or whatever but i wanted to be that guy that showed people you can travel and do extreme adventurous things and use your body in a way um that you know for for pure function but also have that aesthetic background as well so gradually i've just done more difficult more adventurous things while staying in shape around the world and trekked in the guatemalan jungle for six days climbed a 6 000 meter mountain in ecuador um a few other various things at various points like solo climbs of mountains uh treks in deserts how do you decide like which one of them you're going to do like is somebody suggesting it or you're like oh that looks pretty yeah the latter it's like you hear things on the grapevine or you you find out that there's this cool thing in a in a cool place and i'm like yeah follow your gut do what excites you um and then i had a friend jack jarvis who was uh he was the first person to row from mainland europe to mainland north america um so he rode from Portugal to Florida three years ago and we became mates three years ago just after he did it did he do this by himself he did this solo it took him 111 days and um yeah a nightmare but he still wanted to do another one so long story short this boat became available it was shipwrecked in in the Bahamas and I was in Ecuador at the time so he calls me and says Adam there's this boat shipwrecked in the Bahamas like do you fancy rowing it to Miami and I was like yeah, that sounds fun.

19:00And at the time, that was the most difficult thing I've ever done because that was 280 miles a week in a tiny boat. Have you seen, you've seen the size of the boat, haven't you? Yeah. So, yeah. But couldn't you just get like a new boat? Why do you want to do a shipwrecked boat? It's more fun, isn't it? That's the story. That's the dad law. We found a boat and now we're going to use this boat again. Exactly. And go over here. So we rode it to Miami in March. two years ago from from a remote island in the bahamas okay and that was a mad adventure that was a great great little trip like a week long the both of you the both of us and one rural marine who joined us across the atlantic as well um then we fixed that boat up planned all the strategy for for this row across the atlantic had to like improve the gps and plug some holes and things like that yeah i had a lot of water in it um and then yeah and new in we took off from new york in June of this year and then spent 56 days rowing across the North Atlantic.

19:59Yeah. So I'm trying to understand what it takes and what it feels like when you're doing something like this. Assuming you, I mean, probably the first one you did, you didn't have a huge amount of experience. It's just like, let's just go for it. Yeah. That's my attitude towards things. I'd never rode before i was like what were the most surprising things that you just weren't anticipating on the on the big atlantic crossing or the first one yeah in the bahamas um sleep is obviously a major thing we've spoken about how a night shift can mess you up and you we had to row for three hours straight and then rest for three hours then row for three hours then rest and so in the bahamas i did that for a week um and i was you know getting to terms with that it sounds really grim but when you're in a situation where you have to you kind of well i guess your body's so tired is exactly easy to fall asleep yeah so on the on the big row across the atlantic after three days it just becomes normal and it's easy to easy to fall asleep because you're just exhausted so you have a couple of shifts where you're rowing like while asleep you know when you're driving and you feel like you could just fall asleep it's a similar thing you just have to get on with it get to the end of the shift and then you pass out um you can sleep in the most horrible conditions if you if you have to yeah but it was the claustrophobia and the lack of washing that was my biggest fears going into it because you can't escape it's such a tiny boat you're on top of each other and so when we did that Bahamas row and got it to Miami it was a week long and I thought to myself you know I don't fancy this Atlantic trip it's going to be it's going to be too much suffering too painful and then kind of a month passed and I was like was it that bad when you're like well fed well rested you're always like I could do that again exactly and I had this like when we finished the row across uh the north atlantic after a day back on land i was like yeah let's let's go again as soon as you've had that shower and that that feed yeah it's weird how your mind plays tricks on you yes i mean i've not come anywhere near to experiencing what that is like but i have i've been on a cruise ship yeah and even when you're on the cruise ship and you're you're literally in the middle of nowhere and like you look at your your gps and there's just nothing there's no land yeah for hundreds of miles that can mess with your head a little bit because there's no way of getting off but of course on the cruise ship i have all the luxuries and everything and it's like a basically a floating city but i had this weird sensation a few times that i just i wanted to get off yeah to go back on land 100 that was the worst part of the entire ordeal was um i don't know how much we're going to speak about it in detail but yeah the worst thing was when we were a week in and you're like okay i can't leave and i've got a month and a half to go so we capsized on day seven that was probably one of the low points of the entire trip and coming back getting back on the boat after and like drying off and and coming to terms with you know with everything it was that was all fine in the moment you you're in that fight or flight response and you're like okay let's just get on with it then when the adrenaline goes you're like shit i can't leave this boat for another like at least 40 days um and you know yourself like when you're in a dark place you can deal with any amount of suffering like in the moment like if you're really uncomfortable really tired like you're gonna get through it and you'll be fine yeah but when you exactly the time will pass but when you extrapolate how long you're going to be suffering for into the future that's when your mind's like no i can't i can't deal with this yeah um how did it capsize so we were in a we met by a storm on day seven and essentially you always want to be rowing in line with the waves as opposed to perpendicular to them this storm was so big that we had to put so you go like exactly yeah the side side on and it was so big that and the winds were coming in the opposite direction that we couldn't even row so we have this thing called a parachute anchor where you throw a parachute into the water parachutes are a big theme in my life it seems yeah um and that causes loads of drag underwater which stops the boat from getting blown too far in the wrong direction and you just have to wait for the winds to change so we we'd done that but the the current we were in the gulf stream and the current was perpendicular to the way the waves were coming in so we spent uh we put the parachute anchor at midnight in the pitch black and then tried to get some sleep until the morning to see what the weather was going to do um come out on deck at 6 a.m and kid you not inside that cabin there was three of us in one of the in one of the cabins and you've seen the size of it in order to try and sleep we were like legs hashed on top of each other i didn't know your knees could ache while you were sleeping like it was grim and we were dripping so we had like six hours of trying to sleep and it was about one hour of actual sleep uh gen genuine human rights violation like i wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy and yeah over it must have been over 40 degrees celsius in there oh yeah no air conditioning yeah you have to keep it um completely no no ac yeah you have to keep it completely shut because you can't let water in as well so even your oxygen after you wait about 90 minutes two hours and then you would open the door quickly let the co2 out let some fresh o2 in and then close it again oh my god because at the start we'd wake up after two and a half hours sleep and you'd just be gasping because there's no oxygen left in the cabin yeah you can't even have a little hole we had some vents but if it's really rough conditions you're just going to get sprayed and it makes it grim in there because if you're obviously wet that's the last thing you want honestly that sounds like hell it was so yeah we come out at 6 a.m jack's got his full waterproofs on and i'm just in my underwear because i'm so hot we're inspecting the parachute anchor seeing if we've lost anything in the storm and the way waves work generally you have just like a normal set of waves and these were rolling at about a meter high so not crazy but you you know you're getting getting smacked around and sometimes you get a rogue wave and yeah yeah i've watched a few videos about that it's so fascinating they just literally like if anyone doesn't know a rogue wave is when a wave just basically jacks up out of nowhere it's when like it like resonates and they join together they merge yeah so it's like a big dip and then it just yeah there's like been like loads of reports of these sailors seeing them appear out of nowhere and it would just completely destroy their ship but there's no like it will appear and then it will disappear exactly and then you're back to normal yeah um and we'd start to get a bit of a feel for the ocean because it was seven days in at this point and so we were facing each other just standing out on deck and the waves were rolling then all of a sudden it was a bit calm and I look at him he looks at me and we're like that's a bit weird look over to our left the direction that the wave was coming in and you just see this like you've seen interstellar you know and it's like it looks like a mountain in the background you're like oh my god that's not a mountain um coming towards us and you start to learn when the waves are going to break as well a lot of them are just like benign and they don't break on you but this one you could see it was gathering energy and it was going to get that white like yeah that white uh white horse you call it on the top of the yeah top of the wave and yeah we looked at each other we were like again in a split second all these thoughts go through your head we can't capsize can we like that looks so dangerous but like surely we'll be fine i'm sure enough we weren't so uh comes over smacks us both but it actually broke broke on us yeah smacks us both overboard um flips the boat in the process so i'm now underwater boats on top of me jack and i and you've done you've done a bit of surfing you know what it's like when you're kind of caught in a wave you just have to hold your breath so being in a washing machine exactly hold your breath i like covered my vitals and then just waited for a few seconds while holding onto the boat and um let three or four seconds pass the white flush goes and then came up and we looked at each other we were kind of excited because in the moment it's just pure adrenaline get back on the boat like we were all okay you managed to flip you could flip it back yeah because you've got the cabins are like air bubbles because they're they're sealed obviously and then all of our food for 56 days was in the bottom so it was like that's good yeah i was gonna say like did you lose anything once it's upside down two of the boys lost one shoe each so they were basically barefoot for the entire rest of the thing things like that make you laugh so much because it's just so trivial but um yeah that was all we really lost which was pretty handy yeah um and i got a gnarly scar on my foot as well which i'm quite happy about because from that from that couch cut it on something i don't know what and it bled for it was like open gas for a week and now i've got a cool scar um for yes because if you get cut and you're constantly exposing it to water or moistness not ideal yes uh i mean it happened to be in thailand but it got like really badly infected especially in humid countries yeah well we were lucky we had like six days of nice weather after that so it healed up but yeah but i guess if you're doing anything like this you you can never really fully predict what the weather and the sea is going to be like no exactly um so we got like a three or four day forecast but just had to suck it up depending on what was going to happen oh and yeah so that was one storm there was another one where i was stuck in solitary confinement for 36 hours because as if anyone that doesn't know there's two cabins there's one that's like a coffin you can't fit any more than one human in there and kind of narrow like this you just have to stay still um and there's another cabin that the one i just mentioned where you can fit three people in but it's incredibly uncomfortable um and when this storm hit i was asleep in the small cabin um little did i know that i was going to have to stay there for 36 more hours after because the other boys went into the the big cabin so the storm hits and then we're just kind of confined to our cabins and i couldn't like speak to anyone or or i like ran out of battery on my phone so i was just like in there chilling sweating and and like feeling grim for for 36 hours alone with my thoughts how did how do you communicate with when you had a bit of battery i assumed you have starlink or something yeah okay saved our lives that because that's how we did all the social media yeah um so yeah we had solar panels on the boat they charge batteries and then we use the batteries for the starlink and our phones to upload stuff and get gps yeah obviously less important what's what's the diet like does it just eat as many calories as you can yeah so i did all the maths on it before and figured we'd probably burn about 8 000 calories a day or i would anyway my body mass um so we budgeted 6 000 each for everyone so we could get it with 55 days in mind we were trying to do it in 45 days but we were like let's budget 55 days 6 000 calories and ration if we have to so because of seasickness none of us could eat that much at the start we were just eating like 2 000 calories yeah and then by like week five we were all eating 6 000 calories and still hungry at the end of it it was wild yeah um and i lost about seven eight kilos over the course of it so the maths worked out pretty well what does the 6 000 calories look like um freeze-dry meals so like completely dehydrated like pasta or chili and chili and rice or chicken korma or whatever and you pour boiling water in that to to rehydrate it and we had these nut butters as well which were like just cashew paste and you just like squeeze it in and get on with it and they were grim yeah but you knew you had to well i knew i had to i'd just lose weight yeah um yeah because you you wouldn't be able to take anything that's going to spoil or go off especially in those conditions exactly do you have a fridge or no fridge no um so we had we budgeted some snacks we had some biscoff and some pringles and we'd like every week we'd share a pack of them or whatever yeah do you do you um ever have any arguments with the with the other guys yeah that would be a i mean even with my closest friends i would short at some point after being with them for a long period of time, they would irritate me.

31:15For sure. Especially me. And you'd irritate them. Yeah. How do you manage that? It's really tough. But the fact that you can't escape means you have a higher threshold for not being a dick because all of a sudden, if you've got this first order emotion of being annoyed or being upset with someone, you don't immediately react to that because you realize the implications of being a dick. So you kind of process it, think about it, and you're like, what is the best approach for me to take like given how i'm feeling or what the situation is so it helps you be more civil we also had this chart called a flash tally and uh like a flash is obviously when you like be a dick or like raise your voice at someone and so whoever had the most flashes at the end was going to be declared the loser yeah um and so knowing that you didn't want to be top of that helps you kind of and it's down to like the other the other guys to determine it was a democracy yeah yeah so it was yeah i felt i felt cornered at various points but like yeah if you you think you haven't flashed but the other two people have been like definitely did yeah your mark give me an example of like a dickish thing you did um there was one this is quite a funny story of how he clapped this is one of the guys clapped back at me and it made it funny and broke the tension but uh we swapped house every five days so we'd swap cabins from the small cabin to the big cabin to keep it fair every five days and five days earlier jack had said to me um oh you could have at least rolled up the sleeping bag you know before made the cabin a bit tidier yeah and i was like come I've done a good job I've tidied it up but it kind of sat with me for a couple of days just yeah yeah exactly and then we swapped house like five days later and he hadn't rolled up the sleeping bag so then I was like Jack could have at least rolled up the sleeping bag mate but I took I had a bit too much fun with it and so I looked like the dick and then um so he was like you know gave me some chat back and then Brucey one of the other guys gave me some chat back and I was like I'll just go fuck myself then shall I yeah and Brucey goes yeah and quietly if possible please mate so i was like fair yeah that broke the tension but that's an example of like just you know keep it to yourself and don't don't have it don't have a go and then and then they're like yeah that's a flash and then obviously that your reaction in that moment is you want to shout again but you don't want another one yeah the psychology of it must be so interesting i think about this as well sometimes when i watch these sci-fi movies you know if they're going to send a load of people to mars for example yeah you got to make sure that everybody on that spaceship is going to be mentally capable of dealing with these extreme situations because if one person fucks up or loses their mind they ruin it for everyone the whole trip the whole mission is destroyed so it's it's important that you're all going to work together yeah that was exactly our thought process going into this as well so the other guys were two were royal marines one was a royal engineer all like green berets in the british military and so they'd you know tried and tested knew they could keep a keep a lid on it but there were moments where you know all of us had our had our bad days you need to know that no one's ever gonna want to pull the plug or give up or go mental in those moments because that jeopardizes the entire thing yeah and also you can't can't leave so yeah all right guys quick pause here i've got a question for you are you in shape are you not in shape is there work to do most likely if so i have the tool for you which is going to help you out massively.

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37:49Yeah, for sure. Which you have most likely completely mastered at this stage. It's going quite well, but you need to, you know, it's a perishable trait. Resilience and mental stillness is perishable. You know, you go through, we talked about being in Dubai, you go through periods of comfort and you can lose it. So you need to test yourself and keep yourself sharp for sure. I think, I mean, I don't know what your go-to mindset is, but I feel like for me, I would just think, yeah, this sucks right now, but it will, it will be over at some point. Yeah. Do you have a similar mindset? Similar thing of, yeah, you know, if you look back in the history of your life of when things have been at your worst, you've always got through those.

38:29So you're going to get through this and there's going to be a moment where, you know, you're sitting on a beach club, having the time of your life again, or, you know, out doing an adventure and feeling completely alive. So yeah, you just have to let it pass and and keep that long-term time horizon of it sucks now but you know that's the point yeah tell you who you should meet and he's i think he's out here in a few days ross edgley oh nice is he coming out yeah i know of him but we've yeah i don't know him god like you you guys obviously have a lot in common but he's i mean have you seen some of the stuff yeah i saw the iceland swim recently like why do you want yeah what's wrong with you fucking psycho but he's like i don't honestly i have no idea how he does it but he does it and it's like right next challenge yeah what are we gonna do and he's he's asked me to go do some not like extreme stuff but just like fun content for a youtube video i'm like okay well depends if involves me getting in freezing water no i did that with we did a me and madis fitness did a was like an army challenge.

39:34This was back in 2019, I think. But that one ended up going viral. It got like 20 million views on YouTube. One part of it was to go and swim in this ice cold water. I think it was in like November time in the UK and we just jumped into this lake pond and we just had to swim through it. And then my body was literally just shutting down. I just, I cannot. Were you glad when you did it? I mean, it was great content. Yeah. At the time I was like, I'm actually disappointed because I'm like, why did I not just fucking do it? Like I was halfway there and I was like, no, I have to get out because I'm.

40:08Oh, you bailed on it. I bailed halfway through the swim. I bailed because I couldn't move my, I was drowning basically. But then I thought, when I looked back and I was nice and warm, I was like, come on, surely you could have just done that. Matt did it. But at the end he came out and he was like, his lips were like completely blue and he wasn't looking very good. But it was like all worth it for the content at the end of the day. have you got you do you have that part of you that's like i need to go back and conquer that at some point no i'm i'm pretty good but the thing is it makes for very good uh entertainment yeah and footage yeah like everybody particularly because people who watch me they will probably see me most of the time pretty comfortable yeah and you know people like to see me uncomfortable for time's time you know so i think doing some sort of challenge even trying things which i've never done before like doing different sports and like going up against an expert or whatever it's like i remember when i went to japan did uh some practice with a ex-pro sumo wrestler and i was just absolutely useless yeah like he literally was just stood there doing nothing just stood there just leaning slightly and there's me trying with 100 effort trying to budge this guy wouldn't move literally picked me up by the freaking diaper thing and then just threw me out i was like okay i bet people love to see that as well yeah yeah yeah so there's there's there's definitely things which i want to try and do which is just something different and entertaining because i don't mind looking stupid yeah or being bad at something i do want to be good at everything but you can't be good at everything yeah how do you wrestle with that on a personal level in terms of like you wanted to get in great shape and then you now you maintain that you wanted to be financially secure and you maintain that are there areas of your life where you think it's a bottomless pit of i need to keep improving or do you think you've got a good hold on yeah i think what i've learned is it's it's very hard to be good at everything yeah like a lot of people who you look at who are the best of what they do are the best of what they do because that's the only thing they do yeah and they put everything into it yeah so there's for me there's obviously the the gym the the physique aspect which i do really put everything into that but i love it and obviously you get the results from that yeah with like the social media stuff and the business stuff and even like for example a podcast of course you want to see the podcast grow and to succeed but you're comparing yourself with and also you're competing with other people who literally only do that yeah they put everything into it for example like chris williamson like his podcast is his thing joe rogan the podcast is like his main thing uh steven bartlett you can argue as well so when you're trying to compete with people who literally just dedicate their lives to it it's always going to be usually it's going to be impossible to be on their level yeah so some things have to give so you basically have to decide okay what are the things that i want to be either the best at or extremely good at and then just kind of go for it but the moment you try and do too much those things that you are really good at you start actually to get worse at yeah 100 you do less of it that's exactly how i frame it as well and you also set a bare minimum of like i want to be at least x good at certain things so that you're at least slightly competent so that it's not something you're insecure about or bad about but you know it's not your main thing it's not your yeah yeah there is certain things which i would like to do but i look at what the return would be if i did get really good at them or i put all my time and effort into it for example ever since i was a kid i always wanted to be a surfer like i was always just like obsessed with waves but i was never really living in a place where i could surf yeah there's maybe the odd times where i go on holiday and you know oh there'd be some waves there and i would do a little bit of bodyboarding or surfing but in another life i feel like that is something which if i dedicate myself to it i probably could have been one of the best in the world maybe yeah i don't know if you've chosen it as your one thing and gone 100 at it but like to to be good at surfing is you know if you're going out for a surf session you know that's takes a lot of time a lot of the time is spent just sat there waiting yeah for the perfect wave and then you try to ride sessions usually and i've done a bit of surfing you're then so tired for the rest of the day yeah you're like i did it the last time i did it was in bali honestly i spent the majority of the time just fucking paddling yeah and then i didn't wear a t-shirt i was getting like chafed my nipples like i had scabs my nipples turned the scabs because you're like rubbing your belly on the board rear delts on fire constantly as well so i mean that's great way to burn calories though yeah but yeah there's uh that is something i would like to do but it was you know especially in my age and i'm probably just going to be at the point where i just watch the other people do it but at least i'm there there's a good spot i can recommend in lombok the island next to bali where it's like perfect beginner and consistent waves if you ever wanted to put like a week or two into it yeah i'm sure i would do that at some point once like you know i go through phases of working really harder than i want a little bit of a break yeah but have that break instead of going away for a bender and partying for a week you actually do something cool yeah which is something maybe you've always wanted to do as a kid but i got a bucket list there's two places i want to go to when it's popping off and that's uh nazare in portugal i want to go there when it's like during the big surf like the biggest um just to see it maybe get out on pay someone to take me out the jet skis yeah like that would be sick and then uh chopu that's in uh tahiti okay so that place as well when it's popping off is just like unbelievable.

45:56That scares the shit out of me seeing those waves in Portugal. Now I've obviously seen the power of the ocean. So that's something you need to do. I'm not surfing it. I'll get out on a jet ski. I'll get out on a jet ski. They're so powerful man. As you know like when you're when you're pushed under especially because those waves are breaking on such shallow reefs underneath. Yeah. So dangerous. I don't think people truly understand what it must feel like. I have no idea because I've been maybe maybe pushed under by a wave that was six to ten foot and that feels like hell you honestly feel like you're underwater for a lifetime and you're like all over the place you don't know what is up what is down you're just waiting for it to be over so you can breathe again then you don't know if there's another wave coming in and then it's just like then it starts to get really scary so i can't imagine like when the waves get over like 30 foot what that must be yeah it's like 30 seconds underwater sometimes and you as soon as you're up the next one's there yeah i had a friend who was a he's a very good surfer and i always thought that catching a barrel was cool because it looked cool and he was like yeah that's part of it but the main reason it's so well respected in surfing is because it's on a reef break with such shallow water that's what makes the wave hollow yeah so like if you fuck it you're getting hurt it's basically you have balls of steel yeah exactly you're willing to fucking risk it all just yeah so i choose my pursuits wisely in that regard is there anyone that you really look up to who's doing like crazy stuff um you take any inspiration for anyone fun i think uh it was really cool to see russ so i ran with russ cook i saw you interviewed i ran with him in namibia for just one day okay so we had a really near the near the beginning okay yeah the second country and we had a lovely chat like a couple of hours long just me and him in the desert understood because he's obviously such a grounded genuine and bloke and talked a lot about like legacy and like doing this for future future family and things like that and um yeah took a lot away from from that chat in terms of how much he gave you know that year of his life to go and do that um but there's not too many it's getting bigger now this adventure space but um yeah i can't think of anyone off the top of my head that i'm yeah closely following obviously um ross edgley's one of those as well yeah um you don't you're the type of person that needs to listen to a David Goggins speech before you go off and do one of these things?

48:12There's a, no, not, not regularly. Yeah. If you rely on that kind of motivation, you only get so far, don't you? And so I'm an online coach, as you know, and the first thing I'll always do with my clients is what is your why? Like when you can't be bothered to go to the gym, you know, you can extrapolate this to adventure or whatever as well. When you can't be bothered, you're not feeling motivated. You want to throw discipline out the window. So what can you ask yourself that reminds you of why you started or why it's important to you? And so going on the row or running across the country or even just it could be making your bed in the morning or going to the gym in the morning.

48:46You have to have something you can tell yourself to remind yourself, no, this is the person I want to be and this is why it's important to me. Otherwise, your mind will trick itself into not doing it. so yeah especially the if somebody's going to the gym and they they rely upon a personal trainer to first of all get the session done and to push themselves you know that it's going to be very difficult outsourcing your motivation yeah yeah you're not learning you have to find the thing that makes you want to to do it and it doesn't even have to be like going to the gym and lifting weights it could be like literally anything yeah find a thing that requires you to move your body and burn calories and if you like it and do it often enough you'll probably get pretty decent shape yeah it's all consistency over time isn't it yeah what was the reason that you started lifting back in the day so i saw that picture of you when you were a kid i think when i was 10 yeah i was like how the hell yeah but i'll put it up on screen when anybody accuses me of being on steroids i'm like look at me when i was 10 like not a normal kid yeah and i wasn't doing i think i think eight nine ten years old we had to do some sort of sporty stuff i think i was doing they made me do long distance running so i was doing a little bit of that yeah but i think i was always very active started playing rugby when i was nine so yeah always lean always pretty well as soon as i started lifting weights i got jacked but yeah but i don't know because i don't think it like a lot of people they're like oh i just want to get jack to get girls i don't think it was that i think it was because I got mugged on a bus once when I was 15 by these two kids like I was just on the way to town and um I just felt so helpless like I was skinny couldn't defend myself and it was it was like just took all my money so I came back from that like pretty shook like luckily they didn't beat me up or anything but I just felt helpless and I was like okay I need to be at least visually like a little bit more of a, like somebody you would, you would not want to fuck with.

50:53And then hopefully going to the gym as well, just being a little bit stronger, at least I could put up a little bit of a fight. I never really wanted to get into fighting or boxing or anything like that. So I started going to the gym and I think it was just like the combination of lifting the weights, listening to my favorite music, like zoning out. It was like my time to myself, meditation. And then you just felt amazing afterwards. That was, I think, when I started doing that was this little little gym in my school that I would go to just by myself I was 17 at the time and then 18 starts to take it seriously at university I still use it for that now like when your mind's a bit too loud and you just want to have a bit of me time like I'll just you know not listen to music or just go on my phone between sets or just yeah you can it's like a meditative state isn't it when you're and even if you're having the worst day or like so many things are out of your control yeah the only thing that is in your control is that session that you have in the gym so all things could have gone wrong but at least you went to the gym that went right and usually i don't think there's any time where you walk out of the gym and you're like oh i really regret doing that i wish i hadn't gone yeah i wish i'd watch unless you've injured yourself and obviously you're like a fucking idiot why did i try to go for that pb deadlift that's happened a few times yeah me too most of the time you're always like i think that's why I'm a pretty chill person because I've noticed this when I don't go to the gym for a couple of days I get really annoying like I like purposely want to irritate people yeah and you get antsy you need to you need to use that energy yeah so for me it's I honestly it's if I have days without going it annoys me like I don't know how you do it but when I travel I'm always looking ahead and being like okay so in this area what are the gyms like or in this hotel what's the quality of the equipment like because otherwise if i have to do like body weight stuff i don't like doing that you can survive doing a little chest workout if you've just got a floor but you can't train your legs or your back like it's just impossible so i do exactly the same always first on google maps checking out what's what's available um also like in these remote places that you go to like I mean not that the Philippines is remote but I imagine some parts of it yeah so I've trained in like in Namibia or in Tanzania or um yeah different parts of Malaysia and if you're if you're in a town generally there's a gym and you know it's just cheap as long as you've got a barbell if you know what you're doing you can make use of it right so rarely do the dumbbells go up to 50 kg so you've got to work kind of work it out for yourself um uh so yeah if I've got anywhere to do pull-ups and I'm in a remote environment I'll take advantage of that and just do like inverted rows or pull-ups and that'll keep me ticking over for a week or whatever um if there's absolutely nothing i'll maybe use like a lot of rock or something for lateral raises and do loads of loads of incline press like decline press ups as well just again worst case to tick over um and then just try and find a gym with a barbell so you can do a bent over row or romanian deadlift or squat or inclined barbell press and typically you can get so much done with just a barbell as you know yeah and you you don't lose muscle that quickly but if you do absolutely nothing you know maybe it's been two weeks or more okay that becomes a bit of an issue but there's as you said there's enough that you could do whether it's with body weight or just very basic equipment just doing like full body workouts just to keep things ticking along yeah and also both of us spent you know five days six days a week training in order to get in shape i don't know what you coast on now but i can coast on two three days yeah easily yeah so yeah once you've done the hard work the maintenance is so much easier yeah yeah i reckon i reckon i could maintain three sessions a week probably doing like either full body not that i like to do full body but like upper lower up or something like that i even don't mind push pull legs if it's just three days i know it's not optimal but it feels good still yeah yeah yeah you know with the a lot of the people you work with what what do they tend to struggle with like physically like physically or mentally it's all mental isn't it as you know it's always like finding that why at the start is really important um and i think it's mainly food habits you know people tend to know that you need to go to the gym three to five days a week to get in shape but depending on you know if the wife does the cooking or if they're like constantly relying on sugar or alcohol like it's about switching those habits piece by piece and rewiring the brain of you know you now all of your life needs to be systemized you don't just decide what you want for lunch and grab a sandwich you have to like have a plan in place so that you're going to hit your protein and hit your calories and and not spill over um and that's it's like systemization i think is the thing people struggle with the most it's like i mean i think now it's been proved you don't really need a crazy amount of protein i think if you swallow a decent at least 1.6 grams per kilogram is going to be okay um but you don't necessarily accidentally do that.

55:46Like people don't just, you don't casually over consume protein. Most of the time you have to, you have to plan it and structure it, particularly as you get heavier. So even for me, if I try to split all my meals into three, which is often what I do when I travel, it's harder to hit the protein. Whereas if I split it into four, it's much easier. And then I'm getting like more of a constant hit of protein throughout the day. But I still struggle like you know most people we all have the things which are almost like our kryptonite what's yours the moment i get a taste of anything sweet it's game over yeah like you if you put a dessert in front of me i will do my best to not touch it for as long as possible but if it's still there then i'm like well that's good i'll have a little taste of this then shall we and then i taste it and I'm like oh my god yeah and then it's like it's gone so I mean I guess I think I'm quite good at reflecting upon myself and my behavior so I know myself well and I know what's going to happen in advance so at least I can avoid the bad things from happening but I think for me especially being here in Dubai I wouldn't say eating out is that can be an issue a lot of time because you even i don't even need to eat like desserts or bad things necessarily but people always underestimate how many calories they just pack into these meals that are at these fancy restaurants whatever like the steak is like just drizzled in butter and then same with the vegetables is like oil but and that's already a lot of calories then you start to add the carbs the starters it's easily like 2 000 calories 100 people don't realize that restaurants are optimized for taste not for like calorie efficiency so they're gonna do whatever's possible to that's why i don't even like to go out for fancy meals yeah not because the food is not good the food is obviously delicious but i just i always overeat and then i look at myself the next day and i'm just like my face is puffy because of what the fuck they put into it and then like i just don't look as ripped as usual yeah like i have my favorite spots here where they either go to them around here or they just get it delivered to my door and it is like so delicious but the macros are amazing and it's just like food in its natural state again systemizing isn't it so you don't have to make decisions on the go yeah and then obviously alcohol like if i drink the the aftermath of drinking not necessarily on the night but just the following day you usually make pretty terrible choices willpower's low workout non-existent or maybe takes a few days to get back to that optimal level sleep's not good and mental sharpness when you try and crack out like deep work session you're just nowhere to be seen yeah yeah i did actually have one on sunday first time in a long time nice because my friend's birthday so i was like i have to get stuck in yeah um but that escalated quickly but it was it was okay because we did most of the drinking during the day so that's always handy for the hangover yeah i noticed this with the whoop if you if you are going to drink drink in the day so you your body has time to process it and then by the time you go to bed it doesn't actually mess up your sleep as much like i've done that a few times where i would actually get like a green recovery so hrv is high next day yeah but it's when you drink before going to bed so on a night you knock in the the whatever you're drinking back and then you go home and sleep because you're not really sleeping you just passed out on you yeah yeah i've also been from the uk you we've done so many more night sessions than day sessions and i actually enjoy i'm done with night sessions now it doesn't do much for me unless it's a rare occasion but it's so much more fun drinking in the sun with your mates as well so yeah saving saving a couple of those well again with it being like the season now in dubai there's a lot of distraction yeah there's a lot of events happening so if i've got friends that going there or I want to enjoy the music because I do like the music I will just I kind of dip in yeah and then I dip out just a few hours show face and enjoy it a bit yeah yeah yeah what have you uh have you got lined up for any other challenges yeah so I'm gonna do some mini things in the next 12 months I really like the look of Kyrgyzstan um because the Kyrgyzstan okay it's like near Mongolia and Tajikistan like it's in the mountains no one really goes there tourist wise yeah have a look um beautiful lush like greenland and mountains and horseback riding and uh i sounded american then saying horseback ride horse riding um sounds a bit too pleasant for you yeah but but i'm gonna like trek across it either on a horse or on a bike you should carry the horse yeah that would be more interesting farmers carry across kyrgyzstan that actually would go yeah so i'm gonna do that as kind of like a bit adventurous and not too intense and then I want to do something on the Arabian Peninsula like desert related so watch out for in the next 12 months I'm going to do something big here I hope.

1:00:50Is there anyone that you would love to like do it with? I want it to be tough so tough that people don't really want to do it with me. But you're always going to find psychopaths out there that will want to join you. Yeah true. Especially if you what are you offering? I mean if you continue to build your following people want to be yeah true want to be associated with you yeah for sure yeah how do you uh manage relationships when you're doing this kind of thing and you're just constantly on the move um it's difficult isn't it to you know yourself like uh when you live a life of traveling you can't develop relationships with people because you're constantly constantly on the move and you've got to choose this is something i've realized you've got to choose somewhere to live and then look for a relationship rather than hop around and see if you like the look of someone and then try it because then you're just constantly pulled apart yeah i've just started i'm in a relationship now um but it's a it's a fresh one and so see where things go but um yeah it's i'm not kyrgyzstan she's in kyrgyzstan yeah that's the reason living on a farm

1:01:52um yeah i've realized that because i've done my traveling and you have first of all you will have these holiday romances which it's it's like you're so overwhelmed with so many different uh experiences because you're in a new place you're doing something fun you're with someone fun it's all novel like the whole experience is new you can often mistake that for like being in love with someone for sure when it's actually just excitement you were just you just had a really good holiday yeah exactly don't confuse the two it's like you said about trialing out the relationship when you're in a difficult environment you should you also need to trial the mundane with them like do you enjoy just hanging out and chatting as opposed to like do you need that external stimulus um yeah yeah and i've also tried and quite often failed to start up a relationship with somebody who lives in a different country yeah i think maybe if you you've already had an extended period of time living in the same place and then you have time apart much more manageable whereas if you're starting off that relationship long distance i think in today's day and age fucking hard the social media just tries to rip you apart constantly as well all of a sudden your reels are telling you why you shouldn't be with that person after an hour of scrolling so yeah you've got to you've got to be careful yeah and you need to build that foundation 100 in person you can't further a relationship apart because you just can't you know the hormone release just isn't there and you're not like getting that quality time in front of each other so if you said to your current partner now like oh by the way i'm gonna do another 45 days like trekking through antarctica would she be like oh yeah she's actually the kind of girl that's like cool with that kind of thing she she does a lot of traveling and she's ah so that's what you need to do as well you need to have mutual interest for sure yeah and someone that lifts you up and supports you rather than is like a sandbag yeah when you're doing those things but like don't get me wrong if you're going to go and do a two-month trek you need to have the quality time either side of that to invest in the relationship for sure would you go on a challenge with her maybe yeah we'll see that would be a test yeah that would be a test yeah we'd need a flash tally that would work in that works in relationships in general i think you should lots of couples should have it on the fridge if you snap at your partner you get yeah you have to pay for dinner um whilst you're doing all these things as well like how do you manage uh like the work life because obviously you're an online coach as well yeah how do you did you have to tell your clients whilst you were doing the role like kind of occupied right now like i'm going to be i'll be back to business after this is done yeah exactly that i i my last intake was december january last year or like january this year and then i knew that i wanted to have more time available so i finished those transformations over a course of six six to eight months and then obviously stopped working with them because i try and you know work with people for that period and then then move them on because they should have all the tools and resources they need like we said you don't need to rely on someone else for motivation constantly yeah so then i whittled down my client base for the row um and now we're building it back up out the other side but yeah i had a really good pt supporting them answering them while while i was away um and i will do the same thing now have a like mini team of coaches that will that will support like on top of my direct feedback i'm i'm very interested to see what you'll do next but i have to introduce you to ross because you guys will you'll hit it off for sure i would you guys would be talking about all the mad shit that you have done and want to do and i'll just be there like yes we do some ab crunches or something some hanging leg raises did you get um any any sponsors for the row like little ones we wanted a big headline sponsor but it was difficult even though the team was successful i was i had 170k on instagram already so i was like you know i know how to build an instagram and the other guys are all like 10 years in the military so we were going to be successful it's hard to get people to buy it now it's much easier like 1.2 mil on instagram and world record so yeah um so yeah we had like a wealth management company and a couple of other small companies um and so for the next one it will just step that up a notch for sure especially if you've already done it but the problem is i guess this would be the difficult thing as we mentioned before if you do something crazy like this again how do you capture it like because you don't want too much intervention from yeah um other people who are like you know on the boat next to you because it kind of gets a little bit definitely it ruins it a bit something i think worked really well with the reels was i sent them to my editor in 4k but i i don't know what was happening i had to oh that was it i sent them in actually in hd on i filmed them in 4k sent them in hd on whatsapp because we had like limited bandwidth and then he was uploading them at like a shitty 1080p and that just add to the like rusticness and reality and like people didn't really care that much about the quality so i think being out in amongst it doing difficult shit is like outweighs the the production quality sometimes you've got to have a balance of both yeah um because i think when russ was doing it he had um he had a team with him did he yeah on the boat yeah yeah um yeah you definitely need to because i mean imagine like i'm trying to picture this because I've had these situations before where there's a lot going on and I'm trying to deal with the situation that is in front of me.

1:07:08But then at the same time, if you're supposed to be filming this and capturing this and documenting, it's like, fuck, you know, there's so much going on. You kind of need to deal with the issue at hand rather than making sure that you get this clip for social media. Yeah, it's really tough to manage, especially at the start when you're not good at talking to camera because all of your mental bandwidth has to go into that as opposed to like being in the moment i think having a on the like i imagine that's how you do your vlog like i've seen you hold the camera yourself but the best like funniest interactions are always the one where it's just like fly on the wall yeah like cameraman's there kind of just yeah capturing the moment yeah because then you're not thinking what's the lighting doing is the shot right is the mic turned on yeah you need to be able to it's weird i have like two different personalities based on how it's being filmed yeah so if the camera is being held by a cameraman for me it's like and performing.

1:08:02Whereas if I'm holding the camera, it's more intimate and it's less, I don't know, it's less of me performing, but just more me having a heart to heart one-on-one with the person who's watching. And I've realized, I think to get the perfect video, a combination of both works really well. Because whenever Chris is filming a vlog, there's certain insights or thoughts which i don't share with the the camera or the audience because when that moment of inspiration comes and i do want to talk about it or i think about it maybe the cameraman's not there so sometimes if you do have something you just want to say you want to have like something on you where you can just get it out and it's like in the moment spontaneous but like it's real yeah for sure because otherwise that might just go and then you try and you try to say it but it's just not in the moment anymore and it doesn't come out as well as you wanted it to come out you can tell there's that you've tried to take three times or whatever it's not not worked um yeah and also that parasocial relationship that you develop with the people that watch your vlogs they you know they feel like they know you and they you're talking to them you have a combination of them being in the room with you and then actually speaking directly to them so i think yeah 100 you need that combination don't you yeah awesome stuff well uh i've uh i've enjoyed this conversation it's freaking flown by um so yeah where can people find you adam radcliffe's on instagram so i thought it would be funny to make a pun out of a lifting pun out of my surname so my name's adam radcliffe and it's adam radcliffe got a laugh and then adam radcliffe on youtube nice yeah awesome man thank you thank you for having me