Trump hosts President Xi at state banquet

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0:36How many streaming subscriptions do you have? Is it the same for your business? Avoid it by having all your business on one platform. Try Odoo for free at odoo.com. That's O-D-O-O dot com. This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Alex Ritson and in the early hours of Friday the 25th of September these are our main stories. Donald Trump welcomes China's Xi Jinping and some of the most powerful business leaders in the world to the White House for a banquet. A mass walkout at the UN as Benjamin Netanyahu gives a robust defence of Israel's actions in Gaza while the Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas said Israel threatened the very existence of his people.

1:24Italy's Parliament bans girls wearing the burqa and niqab in schools. Also in this podcast... This is an example for speech shaping the brain of a non-human animal. Animals that don't have such complex linguistic abilities can get there. Forget walkies, new evidence dogs can tell the difference between consonants and vowels.

1:53Some of the most powerful men in the world have been meeting at a banquet in Washington. Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping shared a three-course meal in the White House with some of the biggest names in the tech world, like OpenAI's Sam Altman and Elon Musk, at a time when the calls for something to be urgently done to protect the world from the dangers of AI have never been louder. and despite long-running disputes between the US and China over trade tariffs and national security, standing before the dining room holding a champagne flute, Donald Trump said the relationship between him and Mr Xi had never been better.

2:34As the leaders of our two nations, President Xi and I both understand that we represent different systems but the ties between our people endure and we've never gotten along better. Together we can continue to build a relationship that promotes prosperity and security for future generations. The state dinner wrapped up the first full day of Xi Jinping's visit to the US, the Chinese president's first trip to the country in over a decade. Donald Trump said they had a great meeting and that tremendous progress is being made. But speaking earlier in the day, Xi Jinping said the two nations must do more to collaborate on regulating AI.

3:24Both China and the United States are leading nations in artificial intelligence. We have both the capability and responsibility to develop and manage AI for good and ensure that the development of AI is always under human control and serves the well-being of the people. For his analysis of the visit so far, I spoke to our China correspondent Stephen McDonnell. The minimum expectation from China's side was that the trade war detente would continue, and that's continuing. But obviously what's quite important for the Chinese government is to do something on AI. and we're still waiting to see if there's been anything concrete that they've agreed on.

4:10Now, the reason I say this is because I'm looking at the propaganda as delivered here through state-controlled media. Now, take the Global Times this morning. There is a piece, and it's all about AI. It's all about the two of them meeting in terms of the new challenges of AI. And, I mean, it says it pretty clearly in this piece. This meeting is expected to provide new guidance for exploring a model in which competition and cooperation can coexist in these emerging technological fields. Now, you know, they could say something like, well, we're exploring a model. You know, you don't need to say anything that solid.

4:50It may well be in the coming hours. We do get some information that says we've laid the groundwork for the means in which we can further discuss this. But, you know, in this same piece from the Global Times, it is warning that AI is not like any other industry and the wording is beyond the scope of conventional technological industries and I think most people would agree with that. I mean certainly these are massive new challenges that not only the global superpowers but that everyone has to deal with and I think from the Chinese side they would hope that they can actually say to their people you know Xi Jinping can say look we're at least doing something about this because I think people here, like in other countries, are worried about AI.

5:31Yeah, and there has been word said that suggests that Xi Jinping appears to take the risks rather more seriously than Donald Trump. I think that's a pretty fair analysis. It's certainly the way it's felt here. When you consider that the Chinese government's saying, look, we need more regulation of this, and Donald Trump, who thinks that AI is going to somehow catapult his country ahead of China and maintain its position in the world as an economic leader. Well, he thinks if you do anything to rein it back in any way, then it can hamper these US companies which are developing AI. But following that, the huge story we had yesterday that the Australian government has claimed that AI has hacked a major government department, the one responsible for all the health insurance of Australians.

6:21I mean, it's huge that an AI program would do this. It just shows how dangerous it can be and you imagine what else it's capable of. So I think around the world, the pressure is going to be coming on the US to do something about putting in much stronger guard rails on AI. Stephen McDonnell. In New York, reports that around 100 protesters have been detained after gathering en masse ahead of Benjamin Netanyahu's appearance before the UN General Assembly.

6:59Hollywood stars including Susan Sarandon were taken away by police after chanting for Mr Netanyahu's arrest outside the UN headquarters. Inside, protests too for the second year in a row, with delegations streaming out of the chambers as the Israeli Prime Minister took to the stage. Ordering the hall, please. Ordering the hall, please. Thank you. If there are any other moral cowards who haven't yet left this hall, please do so now. Benjamin Netanyahu responding there. He went on to give a robust defence of his actions in Gaza and elsewhere in the Middle East. Our Middle East analyst, Sebastian Usher, was watching.

7:46That was a big walkout, a lot of delegations, more than 70. But he used it to his advantage, I think you could say, Mr Netanyahu. I mean, he's very adept at this. It's his ability to articulate. It's his power as a presenter which has made him so dominant in Israeli politics and such a forceful spokesman for Israel for so many years. So he, as we heard there, called them moral cowards, saying that they were the ones who essentially are on the wrong side of history, that Israel is on the right side of history, and that the moral failure that they're showing is something that Israel and his leadership has shown up, that he had choices to make and that they were the right choices.

8:28These are points that he's made many times before, that for Israel it has no choice but to win a war like this. It's got nowhere else to go. he praised the Israeli people for the sacrifices they've made. I pledge a sacred vow. Your sacrifice will not be in vain. We will continue to defend our state. We will continue to win because we have no other choice. He talked about the seven wars that Israel's fighting and the eighth being about information and the truth and accusing those who say that Israel has committed genocide of telling a terrible lie, of being hypocrites because they don't protest against Iran, they don't protest, you know, against other conflicts.

9:17But that's kind of exasperation in a way. And even that, I think, is more directed to a domestic Israeli order, in a sense of uniting around this sense. It's a double-edged sword. The isolation that Israel is now experiencing diplomatically in in terms of public opinion across the world, it's pretty much unprecedented. And Mr Netanyahu could be held and is held by a large number of people in Israel responsible for that. But at the same time, playing that card is also a way of unifying Israel, saying the world is turning against us. And this all, in the end, revolves around the word genocide. He used that, answering the gathering number of people who are defining what Israel has been doing in Gaza as genocide, saying that that's the biggest lie of all, and that in fact what Israel did on October 7th was to defeat a genocidal attempt by Hamas.

10:09Sebastian Usher. Hours before that speech, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas told the UN that Israeli policies, in particular the illegal expansion of Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank, threatened the very life and existence of the Palestinian people on their homeland. He was speaking in a recorded message after being denied a US visa. Our State Department correspondent Tom Bateman sent this report from the UN in New York. Sitting in his office in Ramallah, Mahmoud Abbas said the American ban on his travel to the UN was unlawful and punitive. He argued it punished the Palestinian people for seeking accountability against an occupying force at the international courts.

10:51He described Israel's actions in Gaza as a genocidal war and suggested, along with settler attacks in the West Bank, Palestinians were now at risk of the greatest wave of expulsions from their land since 1948. We will not leave our homeland. We will not accept displacement. And we will not allow anyone to decide our future on our behalf. We decide for ourselves. We will extend our hands to a peace based on international legitimacy so that our freedom and independence can be achieved. But the 90-year-old leader, now 21 years into his elected four-year term, heads an organisation facing a crisis of legitimacy among Palestinians themselves who see it as powerless to deliver self-determination.

11:39Tom Bateman. The Italian government has approved a ban on the burqa and niqab in schools along with a limit on the number of pupils who speak little Italian in any one class. The Prime Minister, Giorgio Malone, said the rules were tools of common sense that do not divide but truly help to integrate. The leader of the opposition accused the government of a witch hunt at the expense of children. Stephanie Prentiss reports. Italy's Prime Minister, Giorgio Malone, taking to the stage a palazzo chigi to announce the latest move to settle an integration debate that's been intensifying in Italian politics.

12:21For us, anyone who comes to Italy and wants to build their future here must learn our language, understand our culture and respect our rules. It is the only serious way to welcome them. How to manage a multi-ethnic school system and whether to allow Islamic face coverings has long been a source of political tension for the coalition government. This measure introduces a requirement to learn Italian for parents of foreign students with serious difficulties integrating into the school system, and it bans the burqa and the niqab in schools. Along with new rules on languages and children arriving at school without face coverings, a 30 % cap will be imposed on pupils without Italian citizenship or with poor knowledge of the Italian language.

13:09Opinion on this was divided between parents at Di Donato Elementary School in Rome, with some calling the plans common sense, others questioning where children are supposed to be educated if their local school reaches the new limits on foreign students. Georgia Maloney has offered reassurance the thresholds will primarily affect new arrivals, and her government say the plans will improve educational outcomes and promote integration. Opposition politicians and children's charities fear they'll broaden divisions. What the public think more broadly could play out when they go to the polls in Italy's general election in 2027, with immigration set to be a significant campaign issue.

13:59Stephanie Prentice. Still to come in this podcast.

14:07They are inhuman. You can't make somebody live for seven years as I have done with a machete at my throat. How a corporation kicking an 87-year-old woman out of her home in Madrid revealed a systemic problem in Spain.

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16:26This is the Global News Podcast. To Venezuela's capital now, where hundreds of people have taken to the streets, demanding the return of the exiled opposition figure, Maria Corina Machado.

16:43Come back, we are waiting for you, one of the messages echoing through the streets of Caracas. On Wednesday, Machado's team said she had tried three times over the course of the day to enter the country by both sea and air. Her boat was cancelled and neither of her flights were permitted to land. This comes as the country's acting president, Delcy Rodriguez, met President Trump in what she described as a historic encounter. It was their first meeting since US forces deposed her former boss, Nicolas Maduro, who's being held in a prison cell a few kilometres away. They were meeting at the UN General Assembly where Delcy Rodriguez announced that Venezuelan elections would go ahead.

17:27It's not clear when, and this Venezuelan called for a date to be set. She said there will be elections in Venezuela, but when? When will those elections take place? How long do they plan to wait before holding elections? We demand elections now, immediate elections. Maria Carina Machado smuggled her way out of the country in what was an extraordinary top-secret mission. Could she smuggle herself back in? I've been getting the views of BBC Monitoring's Luis Fajardo. What she has been trying to do, of course, was very risky, had great personal danger for herself when she left Venezuela in an operation which, from what we understand, had the active cooperation of US authorities.

18:11And she has been exploring multiple options to return to Venezuela. It would seem that the government of Delce Rodriguez would be hostile in principle to her return. And of course, she is still by far the biggest figure of the Venezuelan opposition. And of course, Delcy Rodriguez right now is basking in what will have been seen by many as a political triumph for her, her appearance at the United Nations and of course, her appearance with President Trump. So certainly the Venezuelan government would not be happy in a circumstance in which she returned to Venezuela right now, particularly in this moment after she has obtained the recognition she wanted in some form or another from President Trump agreeing to meet with her, and of course, her appearance in the United Nations.

18:58But again, there is so much speculation about what is going on in Venezuela that it is hard to know the actual facts about what is going on. Certainly, there is a lot of demand among many sectors in Venezuela for a political change, that is the political change so many people expected after the US intervention. And they've been growing louder in their demands for elections soon. And Maria Corina Machado would presumably be a big part of that. So there is understandably a lot of anticipation in Venezuela to what could be her next move. So anticipation, interim president Delcy Rodriguez has promised elections, but really, how likely are they?

19:38A lot of members of the Venezuelan opposition are growing very upset with the situation. They had great expectations of what could happen after Nicolás Maduro was taken to the U.S., and they expected a move soon into full democracy for Venezuela. What we have been seeing in their comments recently is that they are growing a lot more skeptical about what the U.S. could be thinking about this whole process. Of course, the United States has said that the end process of this would be elections, but they have been notoriously ambiguous about any possible date, any possible calendar. And of course, some people are pointing to, for example, President Trump's latest statement about his intentions regarding Venezuelan oil, his phrase about saying that to the victor go the spoils of this situation, suggesting that his government gives a lot more priority to the situation with the oil and obtaining control of natural resources in Venezuela, and that in that sense, establishing elections and full democracy in Venezuela would not be much of a priority for them.

20:45Once again, the U.S. government insists that the end result of this will be democracy, but people certainly want to know, or a lot of people in Venezuela certainly want to know, when this democracy will be fully operative, when these elections will occur. And they have been growing louder in their demands for a much more specific calendar of return to democracy, who have returned to elections in Venezuela. Luis Fajardo. Mari Carmen is an 87-year-old woman with mobility issues who has lived in her home in an affluent part of Madrid since she was a child, taking the rental contract over from her parents.

21:21But this week, she was dramatically evicted, taken out on a stretcher amid crowds of supporters who'd gathered outside. Three previous attempts to evict her were blocked by the courts, and the case has received increasing media attention and become emblematic of a broader problem across Spain. Guy Hedgco reports from Madrid.

21:48The moment that Mari Carmen was evicted from her flat in central Madrid, the home she had lived in for seven decades. Hundreds of supporters turned out to protest against the eviction. Marie Carmen had been paying rent of 500 euros per month. But when a property company bought the flat a few years ago, it raised the rent to five times that amount. It eventually settled on 1 ,650 euros, still way beyond her means. The 87-year-old spoke just before her eviction.

22:33They are inhuman. You can't make somebody live for seven years as I have done with a machete at my throat. And then they cut my throat, and all just to make money at other people's expense.

22:51In the hours after the eviction, protesters took to the streets of Madrid and other cities, clashing with police who fired rubber bullets in the air. These people were angry, not just at the plight of this elderly woman, but at a housing market in which rental costs have soared in recent years, leaving millions of Spaniards struggling to get by. Economist Javier Díaz Jiménez says a lack of supply of housing is at the root of the problem. Clearly there's an excess demand for housing in the city centres. lots of Spaniards, they own their houses. So this is a problem that affects especially young people.

23:36The socialist-led government says it sympathises with those who are struggling, but many want to see it take drastic action. As the crisis has worsened, more and more people, particularly youngsters, have become involved in activism. OK, so welcome to El Barrio.

23:58This week, Madrid is hosting an international conference on tenants' rights. One of the organisers is Miriam Bue of the local tenants' union. She protested outside Mari Carmen's flat before her eviction and she warns that anger is building. If this continues like this, the momentum is going to grow and this is going to become a civil problem in the streets because we believe the laws are not legit anymore. We are in a moment where not even a full salary is able to give you a space to live. If this is not solved soon enough, we promise you we are going to organise for this rebellion to happen. I'm outside the building where Madi Kahneman lived for seven decades.

24:42And it's very quiet now following the drama and tension that was seen here during her eviction. But the big question now is whether this particular case, which has moved so many Spaniards and triggered so much debate, whether it will have a broader impact on the country's housing crisis. Guy Hedgeco reporting from Madrid. More details have been emerging on the extent of the cyber attack on the FBI earlier this week. It seems that hackers have stolen the personal information of every member of staff that works for the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the US. That's around 38 ,000 people. Phone numbers, home addresses, photo IDs, all in the hands of a cybercrime gang.

25:31In a statement on social media, FBI officials say they are actively and aggressively investigating the matter. Rebecca Kesby spoke to the technology journalist Chris Stockle-Walker. and asked him, what do we know about the group Shiny Hunters that's thought to be behind the hack? A decent amount, although not everything that we would perhaps like to know, Rebecca. So they're a loose international cybercrime group really specialising in data extortion, so taking information and then either extorting a ransom or extorting some sort of change from their victims. They've been active for nearly a decade now, since around about 2019 or so, And their modus operandi is effectively breaking into organisations, exfiltrating that data, then using the threat of publishing that or putting it up for sale to try and put victims under pressure.

26:22Yeah. Now, it doesn't seem as if they want cash for this particular hack. They want something else. Can you explain? They want effectively a retraction from the FBI. It is a really notable incident, this one. And they, alongside taking this data, managed to hack into the FBI website and put up a statement in place of what was originally on that website, saying that they give the FBI a week or so to either correct or remove so-called false allegations that had been made earlier this year, which described tiny hunters as a cyber criminal group specialising in large scale data breaches and extortion.