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He Said, She Said

21 Jul 2025 · 17m · 9 chapters

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“A whole load of Grade A bullsh*t!!!”

In short

The hosts (Ryan and Louise) answer “nosy” audience questions about manifesting/law of attraction, partner dynamics, admired rituals, birthdays, and sexual fantasies, with frequent debate and jokes. They also read a Lowe’s Labor Day deals ad (appliances up to 45% off; extra $100 on select laundry pairs; Miracle-Gro soil deal).

Guests

No guests appear; it’s a two-host episode (“He Said, She Said” with Ryan and Louise).

Key claims

Manifesting is framed as intention/visualization attracting outcomes, but not creating them; attention can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Visualization is compared to muscle growth/health healing, with skepticism labeled “grade A bullsh*t.”

Notable examples

visualizing workouts increasing biceps; BT/Openreach voice causing “goosebump trance”; 5 a.m dog-walk/journaling/coffee rituals; birthday trip to a hotel by the river in Windsor; foot massage/Indian head massage; discussion of threesome preferences and “broken roller skate with moldy feet” fantasy.

Written by AI. May contain mistakes.

Chapters

1:06

The Concept of Manifesting

Discussion on the idea of manifesting desires and its implications.

“Have you ever successfully manifested something?”
1:40

Self-fulfilling Prophecies vs Manifestation

Exploration of the differences between self-fulfilling prophecies and manifesting.

“I know I'm almost manifesting the ill health into my life.”
4:40

Visualizing Success: Is It Real?

Debate on whether visualizing success can lead to real results, including a personal anecdote.

“Well, let's talk about that versus dreaming of bigger arms and then looking down and be like, hello.”
5:20

Humorous Encounters and ASMR Voices

Light-hearted exchange about humorous encounters and the appeal of soothing voices.

“So you think you can heal your body, visualizing all of the healing and the magic happening inside.”
6:55

Rituals and Habits in Relationships

Exploring the rituals and habits admired in each other's lives and the dynamics of their relationship.

14:01

Birthday Plans and Rituals

The hosts discuss Ryan's upcoming birthday plans and his ritualistic communication with parents.

“and I don't really take it all in okay I do admire that you speak to your parents often you're you are scraping.”
14:29

Foot Massages and Birthday Gifts

A humorous conversation about past birthday experiences and gift preferences.

“Ryan I know you're a Leo which means your birthday is coming up.”
16:45

Threesomes: A Playful Inquiry

The hosts engage in a playful discussion about the concept of threesomes and personal preferences.

“I do want any other pork swords in that room.”
18:50

Masculine Fantasies and Realities

A revealing conversation about male fantasies during intimate moments and the humor behind them.

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Transcript

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0:00Hey, it's Paige from Giggly Squad. Summer gave your home a workout. Cookouts, long weekends, probably at-home improvement lists that never quite got finished. And now it's fall's turn. And Lowe's is making the changeover easy with their Labor Day deals. Right now, save up to 45 % off select major appliances. So if something's been on your list, this is the time. Doing laundry? You can save an extra$100 on select laundry pairs. And if you're getting the yard ready for fall, head over and grab three bags of Miracle-Gro 0.75 cubic foot garden soil for just$10. So don't miss these Labor Day deals at Lowe's, valid through September 9th while supplies last.

0:38Selection varies by location. See Lowe's.com for more details. Soil offer excludes Alaska and Hawaii.

0:48Louise: Hi, Ryan. Hello, Louise. Welcome to He Said, She Said. Ask us anything. Thanks. This is Monday's episode where you guys get to be a little bit nosy ahead of our longer episodes on Wednesday. So should we get into some questions? Yep. Stick your nose right in. Stick your nose in. What are your thoughts on manifesting? Have you ever successfully manifested something? If so, what was it? I would actually love to know your answer on this. Do you believe in manifesting? Here's what I'd say about manifesting. I think the concept of manifesting is having like an intention or a desire and you visualize it you believe it and then it comes to you right i feel like that's the same concept of i've always said this to you you attract success you don't create it so i think what i'm trying to say is i do believe in this manifesting thing but i've never bought into the word manifest okay is there anything that you feel like you have brought into your life through the law of attraction good friends i feel like i've done quite a lot of work to be a stand-up human myself and i think that you you look for for similar in other people let me ask you what do you think about man well i i thought i'd get more from you on this one because when i have complained about being unwell with things in the past you've said You're drawing it in.

2:15Louise: You're drawing it in. You're giving it too much attention. I know I'm almost manifesting the ill health into my life. No, I wouldn't say that's manifesting. Because manifesting is you want to bring positivity and your desires into your world. You never would want to bring it into your world. But there is a different term that's called self-deprecation. Self-deprecation is when you put yourself down. Right. So you start to think something. Oh, I'm unwell. You start to feel it. You're squeezing yourself down. and you start to become more of that version. Okay. So I think what you mean is more like a self-fulfilling prophecy, like you become what you think you are.

2:50Louise: Because self-deprecating is when someone goes, oh, I'm so crap at that. I don't know. You just be like - Self-fulfilling, yeah. Sure. But they're different things. Manifesting - No, they're not though, really. Because your thoughts basically become your reality, as we know. So if you're manifesting something, you're like, yeah, you're thinking about it all the time. you're writing it down you're mood boarding it you're attracting it in through then you're the you're thinking and then and then it kind of happens right okay so i think it is kind of the same thing yeah i do think that if you pay attention to certain things that that they well anything you put attention on to is gonna is gonna happen isn't it i read once about this guy who is he's quite famous and he said that he used to lie down so he did lots of like studies on this and he would lie down and he would visualize himself doing a workout without actually doing a workout so he'd imagine that he was doing bicep curls and I guess then he said that he actually got what he said that he got results from doing that so his biceps got bigger so that really leads into the power of the mind so if you're lying there pretending to do them in your head maybe your brain is imagining that you're breaking down those muscle fibers so it's sending more protein to then build them back up should we try it this is grade a bullshit but some over this is but this is why it's so good to have this conversation because it's we're different it's good that you've got a strong opinion on that because it probably is a load of bollocks the only time manifesting has ever worked for me is and i mentioned it before on the podcast is when i've invested in companies and then they've asked to work for me so i've gone i know that if i invest in this company that I'm going to get a job with them.

4:38Well, but that's a great example. Has that happened? That's happened. Right. Well, let's talk about that versus dreaming of bigger arms and then looking down and be like, hello.

4:47Louise: Yeah, but it's an interesting thing to talk about. There are people out there that really lean into that way of thinking, the power of the mind. Marissa Pitt, not that dissimilar to me listening to her in the hospital bed when she's going, you've got nutrient rich blood streaming to your hair follicles. That's more down the route of energy flows where attention goes. That's like, let me give you like a full scan and we'll clean up the debris and we'll scoop it away. It's exactly the same thing. That's different to actually building bigger biceps. No, but it's not. So you think you can heal your body, visualizing all of the healing and the magic happening inside.

5:27Louise: So why could you not build a bigger bicep from visualizing it? no because i know i know that actually you you just need to have he did it just on one side and he got a bigger arm stress and loading put onto a muscle in order to grow and get stronger but but your brain is still the one sending the signal to repair that muscle for it to get bigger it's the same way on headspace i used to visualize having the heat of the sunshine on my head and it would go down through my body okay and that you can manifest because you can like you can you can kind of feel it and it would be like a scan going through my body but what were you manifesting there like a cleansing light that was healing and kind of just waking up all of my system what like a nidra yoga vibes i don't know what that means but yeah well that's when you listen to these amazing people speak with an asmr voice talking about white light well speaking of asmr voices some fucking dude from BT Broadband came round to the house yesterday and I literally had to run out of this room into the kitchen to tell you that this guy had me in like this goosebump trance.

6:35I was like, his voice is amazing.

6:37Louise: Yeah, Ryan kept coming in. He went, I can't stop standing there, this BT Open Reach guy, the Vodafone guy, because his voice is giving me tingles. You had like a hard-on for him. No, you've just taken it to a weird place. Like you used to with the cleaner back in the day when they used to pitter-potter around the house. and you'd be like you'd go and sit in the same room so you could listen to them like tinker with stuff oh yeah i used to i used to deliberately take my laptop to the kitchen so i could hear her shuffling around with different things in the kitchen why is this reminding me of the guy that you notice sat next to you on the airplane who watching who was a straight white middle-aged guy watching real housewives on his phone on the flight back from that's got absolutely nothing to do with asmr or manifestation so i don't know but just like funny encounters with guys why did you observe that you were very intrigued by that well i was actually yeah because i was like dude that's the sort of thing you watch with your missus at home in private not on the airplane he's like crunching episodes of real ass yeah he was okay should we move on to the next question yes please what version of yourself do you think your partner brings out in you okay what version do you bring out in me i feel very confident around you i you know what's nice is i you bring out a confidence if we're in groups of people i now feel so confident in your company that i can sometimes just sort of hide away which is quite cool like it's in for a while i felt like if we went into a room together i was like oh god i'm gonna have to really like carry this now i feel really confident that I can just be quiet so so so back to the question which version of you do I bring out a confident version confident and a quiet version quietly confident version quiet I'm quietly confident which is a good thing yeah it's a great thing sometimes I you bring out a very frustrated side of me like after we had a call with Harry on Monday when you were asking questions about something I feel like we've been over a million times with projects and I just think bloody hell you ever paying attention yes i am i'm the sponge in the room that soaks it all up i could tell you more about what's happened in these rooms today than anyone

8:52Louise: that's your laugh shall i tell you what version of you of me you bring out yeah a terrible one why a green version like the hulk no green green eyed monster you're jealous i'll keep it nice i'll keep it nice you bring out a version that encourages me to push the boundaries a little bit, I suppose. Work a little harder, work a little faster. Be a bit more present in situations. I do have it in my ability to kind of just hit neutral and just float around for a little bit. Yeah, you do. Living with a rocket like you. I suppose it's like a... Do I inspire you? Whoa.

9:53Hey, it's Paige from Giggly Squad. Summer gave your home a workout. Cookouts, long weekends, probably at-home improvement lists that never quite got finished. And now it's fall's turn. And Lowe's is making the changeover easy with their Labor Day deals. Right now, save up to 45 % off select major appliances. So if something's been on your list, this is the time. Doing laundry? You can save an extra$100 on select laundry pairs. And if you're getting the yard ready for fall, head over and grab three bags of Miracle-Gro 0.75 cubic foot garden soil for just$10. So don't miss these Labor Day deals at Lowe's.

10:28Valid through September 9th while supplies last. Selection varies by location. See Lowe's.com for more details. The soil offer excludes Alaska and Hawaii.

11:04foods market in store or online next question what rituals or habits do you see in one another that you admire i don't think you're much for a rituals or habits kind of gal for god's sake

11:20Louise: well i told the dog trainer that when they get back i'm going to be taking the dogs out for a 5 a.m walk every morning oh my god there you go again top shelf top tier grade a bull crap that is just not gonna happen why not because i used to do that during lockdown you are not getting up at 5 a.m to go dog walking i'm gonna try will you admire that check back it yeah yes i would okay i'll tell you what i admire yeah is when you say i'm going down to the gym and you start blasting m &m and you start dancing around and you come back up and you're like a light airy fairy queen yeah but you always say that and i'm actually can't exercise because as i discussed with my gastroenterologist when i exercise i start bleeding from my bum okay why don't you go down there that is a direct correlation and we've had proof now because i've been charting it and he said i've been just shouting it i've been chanting it and even he said that even normal people without an inflammatory bowel disease when they lift then they lift heavy bro they lift 100 kg they bleed out of their butts too no they don't no they don't well you said that to make me feel better anyway he was like yeah don't worry like just you're lifting too heavy well the blood vessels down there are maybe going i'm literally the strongest person you've ever met and i've never bled from my ass from from lifting too heavy all right well what do you want to do about it keep lifting and not start lifting again yeah yeah well basically i ain't gonna be down in the gym what rituals or habits do i admire that you do oh the 5 a.m the coffee pots the journaling oh god you're so cringe oh no no i'm not no but you are a bit you're like really that like stereotypical oh i'm a coffee snob and i wake up early and i do a bit of journaling and i speak to my good guy friends now in peace and like don't disturb my right my peace wait and then i'm gonna go out on a cycle i'm just gonna cruise through the day that's not cruising through the day prioritize myself i admire your sorry i'm admiring those jeans are they three quarter legs

13:42Louise: why are they so you look like you're in the 80s they're like right up your crotch what sorry why do you look like a different person today I never I rarely actually look at you fucking hell welcome to the real religion no but what I mean by that is I never look at you but we're just we're constantly just nattering away aren't we and I don't really take it all in okay I do admire that you speak to your parents often you're you are scraping. I'm clutching at straws but I do think it's cute that you're a mummy's boy. That's not a habit or routine. It is a ritual it is a ritual. You speak to your parents every weekend on FaceTime.

14:21Louise: Oh no That's a ritual. Alright listen Ryan, next question someone knows you very well here. Ryan I know you're a Leo which means your birthday is coming up. Do you have birthday plans? Yes I do. We're going to go away to the River House in Windsor. Okay. And we're going to stay in in a hotel by the river we're going to go with friends take the dogs probably if we have to okay and what else do you want from your birthday then what would you like as a present no nothing i really mean that as well that's so dull not really what about a foot oh my god a foot massage do you remember when i dragged you to my first birthday after having leo when i was really unhinged we went to margaret dabs in notting hill and we got separated so we were taken into two separate rooms and sat on in the room that you were in did you sit on a really high chair I was in a chair like up here like two meters off the ground and there was a guy down below who was inspecting and playing with my feet for two hours and right at the end he goes oh I found like an alien body and he plucked out a tiny piece of glass from my foot with a tweezer It was so weird.

15:30Oh, yeah. No, I do remember this, yeah.

15:32Louise: It's like a really in-depth, like, foot session. I do remember, yeah. Would you like another one of those? You know what I'm going to do? I'm actually going to Google best presents for blokes. I'll have an Indian head massage. Rather than feet tickles, I'll have an Indian head massage. Okay. I don't think I've ever had one before, but it sounds good. I saw it on the menu in Greece. On my last birthday, then I got, we got hammered. Can we go back to that class? No. Where she put gongs all over our body and smacked them. No, she was actually smacking the back with something, wasn't she? Yeah, weird little whipping with that whipping device.

16:11Louise: Maybe we should have, would you want to have a threesome? On your birthday. Is that actually something you would want to do? With who? Well, let's just start with would you want to have a threesome best case scenario? are we talking to, we're not, let's just clarify some basics here. We're talking to women, right? Okay. If it was two women, what would your answer be? If it was two men, what would your answer be? Um, sorry. Two women. Yes. Two men. Are you absolutely outside of your box? I do want any other pork swords in that room. Okay. Oh, neither do I. Oh, I wouldn't want to be a part of some train.

16:59Threesome, yeah. Turn 35. What does she say? Oh, my God, Louise. No, you've gone gobbledygook. You've gone mental, mate.

17:05Louise: Okay, so threesome with a girl, you'd like that for your birthday, just to clarify. All right. When do we start shortlisting candidates for this? Okay, well, who would be top of your list then? Fucking hell. People that we know. People that we know? No, but actually. I am not playing this game. Oh, all right. Because when everyone leaves, you'll be like, sit down. Let's talk about that person you just mentioned. I actually do have a question for you. I need you. We should get a lie detector out. Don't need to. I'll give you the straight shot. You will. Swear on your mother's life. Go on, ask me the question.

17:43Louise: Say yes, you swear on your mother's life. Give me the question. Well, that's because I know you're going to lie. When we've been getting frisky. Have I thought about anyone else? Yeah, ever. Like real person or like actor? um well both do you want the real answer yeah when what was the question when i'm getting frisky yeah i have yeah but they're not what like they're not what you think i'm thinking of like real nasty shit like just stop me from popping you think i'm there like oh my god like dreaming of someone incredible no i'm like holy shit think about a broken roller skate with moldy feet in it

18:26Louise: what the hell wait a broken rollers game i have no idea how it's getting sorry ryan's issue was bouncing around on his chair just then as you said that as well but you get excited it's quite cool because your whole body you get quite like bouncy you're meant if you're mental if you think any bloke out there is fantasizing in the moment about someone even hotter oh really it's complete opposite end they're going that way they're going downhill from the moment do you reckon mate oh I'd be intrigued to get an answer from all the men out there right this is this is I like that you're not asking me the same question back deliberately okay I'm out of this AUA I'll see you next Monday

19:28We'll be right back.

19:49Online, valid through 9-9, while supplies last. Selection varies by location. See Lowe's.com for more details. The soil offer excludes Alaska and Hawaii.

From the publisher

It’s Monday…so Louise and Ryan are back to answer more of your questions in our weekly Ask Us Anything episode!!


This week, Louise and Ryan share their opinions on manifesting (and why it may be a load of rubbish…), open up about the sides of themselves their partner brings out and share the habits and qualities they most admire in each other.


Plus, Ryan’s birthday’s coming up and Louise is on the hunt for the perfect present…could a threesome be on the cards?!


Submit your questions for our next AUA here and don’t forget to come back on Wednesday for our full length episodes.


If you’ve got a dilemma, email us at [email protected] for Louise and Ryan to help you on the show.


Follow @hesaid.shesaid.podcast, @louise.thompson and @ryan.libbey


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