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29 Sep 2025 · 20m

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Debunking people’s biggest assumptions about us…

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Hosts: Louise Thompson and Ryan Libbey

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Honest conversations about life as partners, parents, and individuals, including their fertility journey.

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  • The episode is structured around listener questions in a fun and casual "Ask Us Anything" format.
  • Louise and Ryan respond to various topics, illuminating their personalities while engaging with their audience.

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0:00Ryan: Are you really buying a car online on AutoTrader right now? Really? I can get super specific with dealer listings and see cars based on my budget. You can really have it delivered. Or pick it up. Mommy, look! I think your kid is walking up the slide. Really? AutoTrader. Buy your car online.

0:14Louise: Really?

0:19Ryan: Hello and welcome back to Monday's episode of the AUA. Ask us anything. We've got Louise Tompo. We've got Ryan Libster.

0:27Louise: All right. Are we jocks? Tompo. yes we are okay we've got some good questions for you guys today let's kick off with this who's the question master me right is that okay do i just respond to what you're about to listen respond you should try that yeah okay you are stranded on a desert island what are three

0:50Ryan: things that you're bringing with you can i just clarify this is basically like a quick fire shoot from the hip kind of don't ever think right if that's how you want to roll with it

0:59Louise: I like an over I am an over thinker so right

1:04Ryan: so the question was again Desert Island

1:07Louise: three things what are you taking

1:09Ryan: alright I'm taking with me either a box of matches or a lighter that just doesn't run out of fuel

1:16Louise: oh god well no hang on you've got to pick one

1:19Ryan: a lighter

1:20Louise: is that running out of fuel less quickly than the box of matches

1:23Ryan: no it's not going to run out of fuel it's going to be a no

1:26Louise: oh fine really do you want to take like a

1:29Ryan: god you are an overthinker aren't you Jesus I'm going to take a lighter I'm going to take a lighter I'm going to take a knife like a clipper

1:35Louise: or like a like a cigar lighter like one of those like fighter jet ones okay jet fire so you're taking a jet powered lighter

1:41Ryan: yeah I'm taking a knife but not like a pocket knife like a Rambo like that's a that's a knife which would be used for obvious reasons protection hunting

1:50Louise: so like a big carving knife kind of thing

1:53Ryan: maybe even bigger like a sword no not a sword something that would be like good if i got into a tangle with something but also good if i wanted to chop coconuts and get right through it okay nice the final thing is going to be a bag of tennis balls a bag of tennis balls yeah what are you going to do with the tennis balls mate i don't

2:14Louise: know build a raft i guess quite useful to have like little circular things you could cut them

2:18Ryan: open and use them as like little drinking cups a little cup yeah that's actually really clever

2:24Louise: You didn't even think of that, did you?

2:26Ryan: No, I was thinking more along the lines of, give me a ball of some description and I'll be entertained for hours.

2:31Louise: If you've got a bag of balls, you'd have loads. You could maybe write like an SOS sign out above your island so a helicopter comes and finds you.

2:38Ryan: I'd make little characters. I'd stick on some little reeds to have hairstyles.

2:41Louise: And the fuzzy stuff could be quite useful. Yeah.

2:43Ryan: I would take that Wilson volleyball to a new level.

2:46Louise: Also, actually, if you cut yourself, you could maybe use the fuzzy stuff on the balls to patch yourself up a bit to absorb some of the… this is lateral thinking i like it some of the bleeding like there are loads of things

2:57Ryan: yeah this is a really good idea so it's a really good idea yeah if you burnt the rubber you could

3:05Louise: the smell is really strong so you could probably like get rid of the bugs i bet you could like yeah create like your own citronella candle you get rid of all the mozzies with like the fire of

3:17Ryan: all the the burning rubber and could be involved in my flotation device my raft yeah rubber floats

3:24Louise: rubber is actually a really good resource when i used to play age of empires like you'd really look forward to finding is it rubber yeah there's things you can do with that you can like maybe get it get those stringy bits and use them to tie things together you know when you like peel the bits in a tennis ball off that white stuff okay i'm getting a bit too into it i would take a hammock because i'm actually really scared of like creepy crawlies so to get a good night's sleep would be very important high up on my priority list to be able to oh so you could kind of like when you're feeling really stressed and anxious you could just like rock in it like rock yourself to peace you can also catch it's also then it doubles down as a net and you could catch animals to eat.

4:13Louise: So it's useful to have a net. You could catch fish in the hammock. Hammock's actually a great one.

4:18Ryan: It's going to be a smelly net.

4:20Louise: Well, I mean, I think you're going to start smelling if you're just out in the wild.

4:23Ryan: I feel like if you're swinging from some trees on a desert, that's just going to invite some creepy crawlers to come down that rope straight into your little net.

4:31Louise: No, better than sleeping on the floor. Is it? Where are you sleeping?

4:35Ryan: On my raft of tennis balls. Off the floor. They're just going to crawl onto you.

4:40Louise: At least I'm like in the air.

4:41Ryan: Like a massage mattress for my back.

4:44Louise: Wait. Sorry, you think you'd be safer sleeping on the floor than in a hammock? Creepy crawlies-wise. Because you're deranged.

4:50Ryan: I don't know.

4:52Louise: I'd also take a phone with a solar-paneled charger.

4:56Ryan: Oh, that's fucking nerdy. I'll take a phone. What signal are you getting on a desert island?

5:02Louise: Yeah, but I just have it loaded up with loads of apps anyway that are like, there's loads of books downloaded on there, movies, the Bible, power, like all those the complete works of Shakespeare right okay and infinite numbers of Sotaku and also a map that is downloaded I don't know I've not got GPS have I

5:21Ryan: you haven't got any signal of any kind on this island yeah but I've got things

5:24Louise: on my phone that I can do like a calculator and a notepad you'll need a calculator on that island a notepad on there and I've got voice note memos so I can just send myself daily vlogs vlog I could actually just video the whole thing I'm sure I could actually find my way off the island with a phone even without signal just saying so yeah that and then i'd also take spf 50 because i spoke about skin cancer in last week's main episode and i burn quite easily and i just think that that would be really useful in moments where there's no shade if i needed to go swimming right i'd lather myself up in that but what else could i do with that sun cream

6:07Ryan: no you don't say like this is supposed to be a quick i could do some art

6:11Louise: okay now i don't need all this detail why you're taking spf 50 that's fine that we we know enough about your character now okay you could do like war stripes on your face you could do like you could do body paint you could actually paint on like trees and stuff you could be creative with it anyway what's something people assume about you that's totally wrong rising

6:35Ryan: that you live in the gym yes actually that is a good one yes that's a good one

6:41Louise: that's a good one so good you've said it three times oh my god yes because i was like trying to think i was like yes that is a good one oh my god four times that's a good one

6:51Ryan: okay i'll give you an example why that's a good one

6:56Louise: no i don't have a good example do you think that people live in think you live in the gym like do you meet people and they oh is that an is that an assumption you've put on yourself that's a judgment that you've put on yourself assuming that other people think that of you i went to

7:09Ryan: mclaren hq with optimum nutrition yeah a few days ago and we don't go into a whole bunch of detail of the event and why i was there but basically someone came up to me and he was one of the athletes for optimum nutrition he was much taller than me much bigger than me he's kind of introduced himself he's like do i recognize you from somewhere and i was like probably he said she said me no i didn't and i was like i don't know man i'm just i'm not signed with optimum i'm just here to to meet a few people and and see if there's like a partnership potentially and then the conversation kind of rattles on and i'm like where's this going and he's like yeah i i often just pick out the biggest dude and see if they want to train together and i'm like um i'm not i'm not the biggest dude here there's the gladiator the cast of gladiators right next to me who are much bigger than me but cheers for the compliment mate thank you so that was like a nice way of being reminded that maybe

8:02Louise: i look like i go to the gym a lot well that's that's fine for you to look like you go to the gym a lot but you don't work out you used to probably spend a lot of time in the gym i did

8:13Ryan: a post on my instagram recently as well and it i got i got some weird response from someone and it just proved to me that i think the assumption is that i have buckets of time and all i do is go to the gym when in actual fact i'm lucky these days if i get to the gym for 25 minutes twice a week i'd say that's true and how do you wish that you were in the gym

8:36Louise: every day like you used to be when you had less responsibility and less i don't know i know because

8:40Ryan: i think maybe ambitions evolve and as much as i'd love to be in great great great great great great super fantastic shape um you know there's only so much you can really have on your plate and i i don't know in order to get in that kind of super fantastic shape you've got to

8:58Louise: why do you keep saying super fantastic i'm quoting your dad i'm trying to be funny

9:02Ryan: it's clearly not working um i think there comes what comes with that is a great deal of sacrifice and at this stage in my life with all these projects and stuff i don't know if i could sacrifice much so it's kind of a yes and no yes i'd like to be in the gym more but no i wouldn't want to sacrifice much more what about you what's the one misconception people have of you i just

9:26Louise: wait just quickly on that note it is funny isn't it because people see so a normal person with a normal job sees someone on social media that is i don't want to say the word fitness influencer because they might also be a lot more than that but on the outs outside that's sort of their main role and and they look to that person and think oh if i train like them i could have the body like that but the reality is is that they can't train like them because they can't be in the gym all day every day and you you know i used to have bodies that people used to look at and think oh if i train like them i will look like them but we probably did spend a lot of time in the gym

10:04Ryan: it's just not realistic for most people no are you saying that i well i'm i didn't You disagree. No, I think I might have misheard you, but I have experience of being a PT and people make the assumption that, oh, you're in the gym all day. It's easy to stay in shape. No, it's not. You're eight hours in the gym, but you're training other people. Try going to the gym before or after an eight-hour shift of training people in a gym.

10:31Louise: It's boring.

10:32Ryan: Oh my gosh. It's not a straightforward procedure.

10:39Louise: Yeah, fair enough.

10:40Ryan: It would be like Charlie doing eight hours of podcast recording and then afterwards being like, right, I'm going to sit down and do my own now. She'd be like, right. But people would assume that because she does it all day every day that she'd be amazing at it and it would just flow.

10:52Louise: That's a really, really clever way of looking at it. You're right. Anybody that's knackered from doing their job all day every day is not performing well at the end of the day.

11:03Ryan: You for a long time made this assumption about me. You'd be like, yeah, of course you're in shape. You're in the gym all day. it's like no no no i'm having to work my butt off outside of working hours in a different gym actually because i can't spend more time in this gym oh yeah okay okay just putting some

11:22Louise: misconceptions but listen i've still got it i've still got it you still got it babes i can still look better better now you're like a little bit more normal looking go on say it a bit doughy no you're not doughy you're not a dad bod but you're I just like you like this way you know you've got lots of other interests as well you're more of a well-rounded human and oh cheers babe you still look great

11:47Ryan: I'd like to be a gladiator I'll be honest with you but I'm never gonna be

11:50Louise: I'm sure you could be if you wanted to be

11:52Ryan: I met fire and someone else I met fire and

11:58Louise: isn't your friend Harry Akeen an actual one of the gladiators does it say like an actual gladiator no but so is fire

12:04Ryan: Monty or Montana she is and I was like oh my gosh actually there's a funny story to this. There's a funny story to this. At the NTAs I'm on the red carpet. Red carpet is reserved for nominees only so I'm there by complete fluke. Well it's not really a fluke Sam invited me so I'm in between Gladiators, Holby City, EastEnders Molly Mae all these like actual celebs.

12:25Louise: No not actual celebs. The difference is they're just people that are on TV currently because it's reserved for nominees only. Okay.

12:32Ryan: anyway there's this big blue dress with a sort of trail behind the dress the person and i step on it one time oh my gosh i'm so sorry yeah we uh we go through the red carpet we go to the next part of the like you know the walking towards the seats and i'm in conversation with a friend of mine i turn to my left and i'm stood on this same blue dress and i was like oh my gosh it's you again i'm sorry you you're trying to like is this a joke you've just popped out of nowhere and i'm on your dress again we made a bit of a joke of it i said i'm really sorry she was like if you do it again anyway fast forward two or three days i'm at this same event the optimum nutrition one at mclaren i grab a coffee from the bar i turn around this person in the blue dress is right in front of me i'm like i need to just drop my coffee on you of all people it's you i was like oh my gosh anyway we got into conversation i was like i'm sorry but who are you you're supposed to be in my life she was like i used to be i used to be a sprinter for gb then i went bobsleigh for ggb then I did Strictly and now I'm a gladiator and I'm like oh my god I was like I'm so sorry I had no bloody idea of any of that

13:35Louise: isn't it awkward when you're at something and you should know who someone is and you don't

13:39Ryan: yeah and I was like you must know my brother and she was like yeah I know Sam

13:42Louise: it sounds like that lady needs to be in your life right

13:46Ryan: she is now

13:46Louise: she is now did she get her number

13:49Ryan: no but I got her on the jams

13:53Louise: okay what about you hang on

13:56Ryan: you haven't asked yours

13:57Louise: I can't even remember the question after that

13:59Ryan: Common misconception about Louise Thompson

14:01Louise: I think I think there might be a common misconception That I'm always Sort of put together I'm confident in that I've got my life together But I haven't

14:16Ryan: Oh don't worry

14:17Louise: As anybody that follows me on TikTok Will see I'm pretty Messy and Don't always look like this and

14:26Ryan: as soon as these cameras get packed down Louise will be in pyjamas and makeup's coming off for the rest of the day

14:31Louise: bras off I don't really wear underwear yeah I don't really wear clothes she'll have food

14:37Ryan: all around her mouth and teeth and that'll be it yeah that's true

14:40Louise: so my life is sometimes quite chaotic and it can be quite messy and clumsy also actually one of the things I was going to say was I hate the thing the misconception of like you're you're just an influencer but I kind of actually spoke about that anyway with the whole

14:55Ryan: fitness body thing yeah you know not people you but i think actually people now know that you're

15:01Louise: not an influencer i know i don't even really think that i'm it doesn't really happen to me anyway is

15:07Ryan: it the fact that you said just an influencer or influencer that might be the misconception i actually

15:11Louise: don't love being labeled as an influencer it's an incredibly complimentary title because being an influencer basically just suggests that you're influencing people on how to live their life and to make decisions.

15:21Ryan: No, you are an influencer.

15:22Louise: But it's, no.

15:23Ryan: No, but you're not just an influencer. This is the point.

15:26Louise: Okay, gosh.

15:27Ryan: You do influence. You can sell out Amazon stocks of a shark fan.

15:30Louise: It's true. That is influence. I can sell thousands of products.

15:33Ryan: Yeah, no one can do that. Like, not many people can do that.

15:35Louise: But that's only because I really believe in the things that I own. Look, we don't need you. I put a lot of time into, like, curating a life for me that I want to share because I feel like if I know that, like, that Dettol product is going to.

15:47Ryan: No, no, no, no, no. We don't need to hear about your factuation with cleaning and with Dettol. products i'm just giving you a compliment that actually yes you are an influencer but you're not just an influencer you're an author you're a tv media personality you're a mama you're starting a new pajama line you're in politics a little bit somehow weirdly strangely i'm actually starting

16:07Louise: i'm surprised you even know about it oh i know a lot

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18:11Louise: If you could only listen to one. We always talk about music. You guys always ask us about this. If you could only listen to one album for the rest of your life, which would be a quick fire?

18:20Ryan: Red Hot Chili Peppers, Californication. Boom.

18:23Louise: Is that an album or just a song?

18:25Ryan: Is it an album? Swimming pool, red sunset in the backdrop, Californication. Okay.

18:33Louise: mine would now be the soundtrack to parent trap because loads of good songs are in that movie or andre bocelli any sort of album that he does or you don't even know any name of his so that's well because i don't actually buy cd roms with albums anymore ryan do you

18:52Ryan: i'm not down in virgin mega stores picking up a mixtape i'm gonna get a vinyl actually i'm gonna This was iconic.

19:04Louise: Well, we should, I wonder if they still exist because maybe I'd take one of them. Or Hans Zimmer mixtape. He's a composer and he basically makes every single song, every single soundtrack to every good movie and every really like powerful bit of music in a big scene like Gladiator or Help Me Out Here, right?

19:22Ryan: No, because you're speaking as if you know what you're talking about. So I'll let you do it.

19:26Louise: Because I'm so bad with movies. My memory is so selective. Okay, I'll name three movies. Oh, what's the one where they go out into space? Interstellar.

19:38Ryan: Interstellar.

19:40Louise: Interstellar. Gladiator. And, oh, what's the one with Leonardo DiCaprio? Time. Did I just make that up?

19:48Ryan: No, that's the name of the song. But, yeah. Time is in... Jade, stop giving her nuggets.

19:51Louise: Wait, tell me, tell me what... Inception. Inception.

19:54Ryan: You're supposed to be letting us sweat it out.

19:56Louise: We can keep Jade in. I don't mind being helped. I'm not a genius, everybody. I'm a perfectly flawed human.

20:03Ryan: don't worry no one thought you were a genius

20:09Louise: oh my god ryan okay last question quick fire nothing's been quick we talk too much what's something you hope people say about you in 10 years time he's a great guy and his son is even better nice god that's profound isn't it that's what i hope he will say in 10 years so that would be on a gravestone no that would be a bit weird i'm not dying in 10 years

20:36Ryan: okay in 10 years from now i want charlie and jay to be like he's a great guy and his son is

20:40Louise: even better that's what i want okay that's gorge so you're not even just making it all about you that's so what's the opposite of being an ego having a big ego egomaniac ryan oh do you get it because that is

20:55Ryan: egotistical yeah

20:57Louise: what no wait what

20:58Ryan: Louise doesn't get it it's a very egotistical response to say oh my god that's so clever

21:06Louise: oh my

21:07Ryan: what am I dealing with here

21:08Louise: god you're smart today you've really turned your the light switch on in your head haven't you I suggest you do the same oh I don't really have one for myself

21:18Ryan: in 10 years from now you want people to say what oh i don't know she survived more plot twists than netflix and she's still the leading lady

21:27Louise: maybe something like i she changed the conversation around birth trauma that's great there you go

21:33Ryan: boom that's a powerful way to end aua see you on wednesday see you on wednesday guys adios love you

21:54Ryan: Are you really buying a car online on AutoTrader right now? Really? At a playground? Yeah, really. Look at these listings from dealers. Wow. Your search can really get that specific. Really? And you just put in your info and boom. Cars in your budget. Mom needs a second, honey. You can really have it delivered?

22:11Louise: Really. Or I can pick it up at the dealership.

22:14Ryan: One sec, sweetie.

22:15Louise: Mommy's buying a car.

22:17Ryan: Mommy, look. Uh, I think your kid is walking up the slide. Kyle, again? Really?

22:21Louise: AutoTrader. Buy your car online. Really?

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Happy Monday! Grab a cuppa and settle down for another fun-filled Ask Us Anything episode.


This week, Louise and Ryan dive into the essentials they’d take to a desert island and debunk some of the biggest assumptions people make about them…


Plus, Ryan tells us about his recent trip to McLaren HQ, Louise reveals the one album she could listen to for the rest of her life and together they chat about how they hope to be remembered 10 years from now.


Submit your questions for our next AUA here and don’t forget to come back on Wednesday for our full length episodes.


If you’ve got a dilemma, email us at [email protected] for Louise and Ryan to help you on the show.


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