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28 Jul 2025 · 14m · 3 chapters

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Re-doing our proposal, moving abroad and misconceptions about us

In short

An “ask us anything” episode where the hosts (a couple) answer relationship questions: redoing their engagement day, what perfect date nights look like now vs when they met, spontaneous ideas like moving abroad, misconceptions people have about them, and choosing theme songs.

Guests

No external guests. Only the two hosts—Ryan and Louise—speaking as a couple.

Key claims

They’d redo the engagement proposal because it was clumsy and too rigidly planned despite curveballs (they got “merry” at a pool party and then went on a hike). They believe people misread them as shy/rude or as wealthy “Chelsea” stereotypes.

Notable examples

Engagement at Runyon Canyon, LA (Aug 4, 2018, Ryan’s birthday); South of France trip where Louise says she felt most in love; projector “movie night” in the kitchen; Greece date night with jazz and grilled fish; Mexico City/Hong Kong/Singapore friends as proof moving abroad is feasible.

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0:34Louise: hey guys welcome back to he said she said this is an ask us anything episode and an opportunity for you to send in all of your questions and be super duper nosy about all of the dirt in our lives i've got a good question to kick things off with today ryan and actually i really want to know the answer to this okay so if you could relive one day in your relationship which will it be and why Our engagement day, I would say. 2018, Runyon Canyon, LA. 4th of August, actually, my birthday. It was the evening. It was the day slash evening that I proposed to you. And I'm going to relive it so I can redo it, basically.

1:08Because I think it was a clumsy execution.

1:13Louise: Really? Well, I think I was too fixated on doing it on that night to the plan that I had had in my mind for a while. And there were some, as there always is, there were some like curveballs to the day we got a little bit merry at a pool party which you having the best time of your life at we've never really spoken about this before i sort of yoinked us out of that party environment to go on this uh evening hike which was probably not the best idea what was going on in your head what you pre prepped the idea of it being on your birthday and we you just knew that you needed to stick with that day i felt like i needed to just stick to the plan but in reality and this is what hindsight offers you as you get older in life you get to um to look back on it and realize that there was no time pressure and there was no reason to stick to any beat or plan because it's better to be flexible with everything so i could i kind of would like to redo that actually is that possible is that part of this game maybe we maybe we could redo an engagement given that we've i've still not got an engagement ring which i has has actually been playing on my mind a little bit this last week but when you mean you mean i mean i lost one yeah for anyone that hasn't listened to earlier episodes we did discuss that shall i propose to you this time oh um not sure not sure on that one no let's keep it traditional okay so are you going to plan something now within the next no six months Wait, I thought this was just like a hypothetical game, like a ha ha ha ha, what about that time?

2:51Yeah, but maybe - And I just walked into a trap again.

2:54Louise: But maybe you could actually, maybe we could do it again. I feel like we're new people, we're different people now, aren't we? I'm saving for a house, not a ring. Okay. Well, even just like a Haribo ring would be cool. What about your day? What would you like to relive? I would relive the day in our relationship where I felt the most comfortable and in love with you ever, which was when we were in Mougin filming in the south of France. and I told you that I loved you when you were swimming in the pool in the villa that we were staying in at the time, and I was rapping La Bella La Bad Boy by MC Solard.

3:26I thought you were going to say I was rapping presents. I was like, I don't remember you rapping presents. I do remember you rapping to French music, though.

3:31Louise: Yeah, and I feel like you, the way that you looked at me, I'll never get that again. You thought I was pretty cool. I did. I did. At that moment, I did think you were pretty cool. I remember you asked me whether I could speak French. To which you probably said yes. yes what would you like me to say so I'd relive that moment because that was a really beautiful trip that was wasn't it bloody hell I was going back some time that was the time when we got burgled that was before I arrived but yeah next question please okay next question what does a perfect date night look like for you guys now versus when you first met you can go first alright well when we first met it all revolved around sports so lots of gym and then when we weren't doing that we were going to the theater and meeting up and i was wearing heels and some tight trousers because i knew that you loved tight trousers you love jeans on a girl with a heel am i right you love jeans and a nice top you were that kind of guy maybe maybe at one point but we've been together for almost decades so yeah but i'm reflecting back on what you used what we used to do okay so that was the date we used to go and watch shows and get dolled up and occasionally have tequila slammers one of the funniest things we were one of the funniest days we went to a mexican got pissed and then we went to watch stomp and we got properly into the stomp remember the theater show stop yes i do yeah that was when they literally crash like bins on the floor and we were drinking but then you got really angry at me afterwards because i told you that i'd taken this pill which was a ritalin that i found which was like half a pill for i think it was an adhd medication that I found in this random pot in my bedroom and I thought that it was going to make the whole experience a bit more spicy I do not remember and that is so unmeatly because I'm someone that has like a total phobia of medication as well so it was a real random move and I told you afterwards but I was into that show oh my god it was electric I didn't know what was our perfect date night what's that look like now well we actually did one last night didn't we we had the projector screen up in the kitchen duvet on the floor lots of cushions and it feels like a good idea for five minutes when i first bought that projector and that screen you took such joy in telling your family when they'd come around you'd like invite your 75 year old dad over for a movie night on the projector and you'd be like there's a perfectly good tv right there and there's one in the kitchen why are we popping up a projector screen you were so into it and still are yeah but we never use it that was how i would sell people to try and get around to the house i'd be like look we're going to set up a little movie outside in the garden with popcorn i've used it many a time camping do you use it every time you go camping every time all right well we're going camping this weekend together so we'll use it then and we actually did use it last night and it felt like a good idea to get it all out unpackaged much like the lights for the podcast it's like quite a lot of admin when you're unboxing everything and then you set it all up and then you get the duvet down and it's on the floor and then you realize like and then you order a takeaway and you get that on a tray and it's on the floor and then within five minutes dogs are like nose bagging the food there's crumbs everywhere all over the duvet and it's not even that comfortable lying on the floor can i recount one of our evenings in greece because that basically for me was the ideal spot for a date evening okay what was that soft jazz in the background outdoor grill fresh fresh fish going on a little bit of steak perhaps going on yeah little drink and we've got either uno or we were playing connect four which i had to teach you how to play but as i told you on holiday louise i'm i was never the kid to sit around happy families He's playing card games and battleships and chess.

7:24I was the kid who was like whittling sticks with like a blunt pen knife and throwing stuff around. Like I was like proper stig in the dump kind of kid.

7:32Louise: Wait, you never played battleships? No. Okay, so your dream date night is basically we need a games cupboard in the house. We've got a jigsaw cupboard. So let's just add to that. Think of all the fun times we've had playing Yahtzee, yeah. Well, let's play it together. You never want to play with me one-on-one though. Look, it's my birthday next weekend. I want jazz. I want cigar I want an outdoor barbecue going on maybe a little activity in there paddle or something what kind of cake do you want this year? no no I don't want cakes why not cakes? if it's going to be cakes I would like a cupcake or I'd like just an original glazed donut why do you always like a cupcake?

8:09because a cupcake is like you get one delicious thing that you can like unveil and get your own little serving of icing on top a cake's too much I guarantee you that if we bought a cake, we'd take three or four slices and the rest would go in the bin. It's a complete waste of bloody time.

8:25Louise: Okay. So what flavor little cupcake do you want? I'll just take a red velvet. Isn't red velvet actually just vanilla and chocolate combined? Yeah. Is it though? I feel like someone told me that the other day. It is, yeah. With some red food coloring in. Yeah. I found that was quite groundbreaking. Yeah. Okay. Right. Well, you're a cheap date then. No, but this is the point. We don't need that much in life to make us deeply happy as humans. Correct. And we think we get ourselves in such a muddle because we overanalyze, overthink, over exaggerate. And we just need to boil it all down to the very simple, get a bit of connect four out.

9:05Get a little bit of, I don't know, something on the grill. Just chill.

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10:19Louise: Okay, what's one wild or spontaneous thing you want to do together? Move abroad. Do the thing that most people dream of, like trying a new culture, a new part of the world, being surrounded by different language, food. One of my really good pals lived in Japan for five years. I'm not saying I would want to move to Japan, but like the idea of going to LA or something, which is not alien territory, but it's far enough away from home to think, or Australia. Australia would be the best example for me. I'd like to go to Australia. Really? Are you for real? Yeah, 100%. Well, last week you said to me in the kitchen that you wanted to move to Portugal.

10:52I explored the idea, yeah.

10:53Louise: Well, and so now you're telling me that you'd like to live, okay, we'll talk for a second. You would like to move to Australia. 100%. For a year before we die. Two years. Actually, when we were in Paris and we were walking up Montmartre, I remember saying that it would be cool to live in a different country every year, wouldn't it? South Africa would be cool. Right. But I just don't see how it would be feasible for us. It's definitely feasible. If anyone has a lifestyle that could make that work, it's people who work for themselves, who have young kids. I have a few friends that live in Hong Kong, Singapore, Mexico City, Bruges, full-time.

11:30There you go. And what do they say about life?

11:32Louise: well i think my friend that lives in mexico city has a pretty amazing lifestyle because she can just fly to miami pretty easily she travels around mexico on the weekends which is pretty cool but then she really likes coming back here i don't know for europe for the summer for the summer yeah so it's feasible all right next question what's a misconception you think people have about you i think a misconception people have about you is that you're about you i'm not i'm I'm going to answer for you. Right, okay. And then me. I think that people think that you're shy and quiet or they think that you're rude and intimidating and neither of those things are true.

12:10Louise: I think the misconception about me is that I'm a Ferrari driving loaded Chelsea girl. And I don't want to sound like Victoria Beckham who tries to... Have you seen the clips where she's like in denial about her roots and then David keeps popping in and saying tell everyone what car your dad drove and he drove a Rolls Royce have you seen that yeah it's great yeah I'm not going down that route but I think there's a lot of smoke and mirrors isn't there yeah fair enough in the in the entertainment industry I yeah I guarantee people I actually think people do think you live in Chelsea well people ask the questions they're like when when people refer to the show they always sound really surprised when I tell them that we don't all drive sports cars and drink champagne what do you mean?

13:00Louise: three times a day it's all an illusion Louise I'm going to give you one last question for this episode okay alright so if you had to give our relationship a theme song what would it be? Die Another Day by Madonna okay James Bond yeah I was going to say that's a James Bond it would always be a Bond theme tune okay do you think That's a really elite song. Yours would be like the OC. Another day. Is that the one? Yeah. Yeah. Because also like we're going to die another day. We're not dying today. Okay. Okay. We're kind of immortal. Another day. Isn't that cool? I guess when you do a podcast, you become pretty immortal.

13:41Louise: I have to listen to you. I thought you were going to say something from Little Mermaid because you love that. Poor unfortunate souls. you love just a disney villain i love a disney villain but i didn't used to say it is poor unfortunate souls but you always used to call it poor unscrupulous souls yeah i know so random random but just fun to say fun to do poor unscrupulous souls what's the theme tune to your life to my life yeah i don't know to my life i don't know i've asked you this before and you said succession which is a bit cocky I think I'm not going to go with succession no I'm going to go with

14:29California here we come the OC soundtrack that's the soundtrack to my life yeah in my mind nice

14:36Louise: I love that question that's a goodie as always guys you can keep them coming in if you send them to the email address that you'll find in the show notes below the episode. And if you enjoy the pod, then please do follow us over on Instagram. Make sure to follow on your preferred audio platform. And also you can subscribe over on our YouTube where he said, she said everywhere. And I hope you enjoy the episode that we have on Wednesday, our longer form. See you then.

15:43We'll be right back. at Wayfair.com. Wayfair, every style, every home.

From the publisher

Happy Monday! Louise and Ryan are BACK to answer all of your burning questions.


In this episode, Louise and Ryan share the one day in their relationship they’d like to live all over again, consider how their date nights have changed over the years and Ryan reveals his dream of spontaneously moving abroad…


Plus, Louise unpacks the misconceptions she thinks people have about her and the pair discuss what they think their relationship theme song would be.


Submit your questions for our next AUA here and don’t forget to come back on Wednesday for our full length episodes.


If you’ve got a dilemma, email us at [email protected] for Louise and Ryan to help you on the show.


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