In short
The episode is a political commentary arguing that Donald Trump is fixated on Barack Obama out of jealousy and insecurity, and that Trump’s administration enables elite corruption while undermining journalism and accountability. The hosts/guests claim Trump avoids direct confrontation, moderates rhetoric around Obama, and blames Obama for issues like the reflecting pool. They also allege quid pro quos involving David and Larry Ellison (including merger approvals and potential media deals) and cite reporting about donations tied to Trump. They further argue Republicans and Trump have long targeted the free press (citing Heritage Foundation/Project 2025) and describe alleged interference benefiting Mark Zuckerberg. Notable examples include Trump’s remarks about Obama, references to Nobel Peace Prize jealousy, and Elon Musk/USAID cuts allegedly harming children.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOTrump's Reflection on Obama
1:07 to 2:31
Discussion about Trump's obsession with Obama and his reactions to it.
“Okay, the reflecting pool is a complete disaster.”
Jealousy and Insecurity
2:31 to 3:40
Analyzing Trump's jealousy towards Obama's accomplishments and persona.
“And he is just an example of all of the people he represents.”
Confrontation and Behavior
3:40 to 6:48
Exploration of Trump's behavior and how he moderates his speech around certain people.
“Yeah, I think you're spot on about the Nobel Peace Prize.”
Corruption and Media
6:48 to 9:56
Discussion on the political corruption involving Trump and the media landscape.
“These people have stage five meltdowns about it.”
Long-Term Effects of Republican Policies
9:56 to 13:22
Analyzing the Republican Party's historical relationship with the press and governance.
“Like you read about the pardons, like he, certain law firms are getting charged like a half a million dollar fees so they can go by pardons.”
Tech CEOs and Political Interference
13:22 to 14:00
Discussion on how tech CEOs interact with Trump and the implications for accountability.
“Tommy Vitor of Pod Save posted the following.”
Accountability and the Billionaire Class
14:00 to 15:06
Discussion on the lack of accountability for billionaires and their entitlement.
“You know, every time one of these insufferable billionaires comes out and they're like on the inauguration stage, I immediately am like, what do they want from Trump?”
Elon Musk's Disconnect
15:06 to 17:40
Critique of Elon Musk's response to humanitarian concerns, revealing his disconnect from reality.
“And then when we ask for any evidence whatsoever, I say, well, please connect us with this group of children so we can talk to them and understand more about their issue.”
Misconceptions About Intelligence
17:40 to 18:52
Examination of societal misconceptions attributing intelligence to wealthy individuals.
“And my thing is like, okay, you know where Starlink goes and not.”
Transcript
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1:07Angie Sullivan:Okay, the reflecting pool is a complete disaster. It has a huge giant fence around it now. Everything Trump touches dies. And you've probably seen this clip before, but stay tuned because it gets a lot juicier. When asked what happened with the reflecting pool, he always goes to the one person he's obsessed with and loves to blame all of his insecurities and inferiorities on. Play the clip. Okay, ready? Barack Hussein Obama. Have you ever heard of him? Yeah. He spent two years. Okay. So they're asking him about the reflecting pool. His answer is, are you ready? Barack Hussein Obama. Like he just drops this huge bombshell.
1:48Angie Sullivan:Well, Obama, now he's opened his library. You know, he's so swaggy. He has all this swagger. So he comes out and he's now responding to Trump's obsession with him. Play the clip. Yeah. I obviously have a room in his head. Grant free. You do everything with grace. A sweep in his head. But the thing about it is that was always clear to me. Look, first of all, when I was president, the last thing I had time to do was worry about what somebody said or what my predecessor did. I mean, it's so true. I mean, it's so fair. Trump is so petty and he's so jealous and he's so bitter. And he is just an example of all of the people he represents.
2:36Angie Sullivan:Mediocre at best. At best. White people that have failed forward that are just clinging on to this idea that they have to keep the system rigged or they're going to be found out. Well, and I've read so many articles about how Trump's preparation, you know, we've heard that Tulsi Gabbard in the beginning, had to give Trump his Fox News hits on the intelligence briefings or whatever. And I think about all the time he has spent on the ballroom, super gluing his artifacts in the Oval Office, the auto pin wall, all of the things that don't fucking matter. Yet he never has an answer for what matters.
3:17And it's always Barack Obama. I believe the only reason we are still hearing about the Nobel Peace Prize is because Obama has one and Trump will never get one. It's just jealousy of the, you know, the kid that had everything, but everybody hated him and he hates himself and he's so fucking insecure.
3:41Angie Sullivan:Yeah, I think you're spot on about the Nobel Peace Prize. And here Obama goes on and says that Trump won't talk like this to his face. Play the clip. I believe in face to face. I believe in conversation. So if this, whoever you were talking about was in front of me, which has happened a couple of times, he don't talk like that. Because he knows better. Right. All of these people, they moderate their speech. It's like, I'm so tired of people saying stuff like, oh, well, that person genuinely doesn't believe they're racist or they don't know they're racist. I'm like, bullshit. When people moderate their behavior based on who they're around, there is a willful awareness of what they're doing is wrong.
4:32Angie Sullivan:There's always this setup for the people like Donald Trump to have an excuse structure or permission structure to not man up or to not own whatever they are. And this exists so much in white culture, the coddling. And it's true. Trump will not say half the shit that he says when he's got the cameras in front of him. If he's in front of Barack Obama, we saw it at, I believe it was, I don't know if it was a funeral, maybe Jimmy Carter's funeral. I can't remember. I don't think it was. But he was sitting there next to Obama, just hamming it up because he doesn't have the balls and he's not, or as Jesse Waters would say, He's too low T to confront this stuff to Obama, to his face.
5:16Angie Sullivan:He won't say it. And so many people live this kind of duplicity. And then there's a permission structure of a support group around them that allow them to perpetuate this. And that is just the soft bigotry in all of that. Well, and at the end of the day, Trump is a bully through and through. and he is jealous of barack obama and he's dying for barack obama to like him to respect him and that is never fucking gonna happen and he knows it and that's why he's really trying to be charming and endearing around obama he does this to everybody though he talks shit and then they get in front of him and he's like oh i love him or whatever yeah except for journalists and then all of a sudden he has a pair because they are right in front of him exposing now if Obama were to say something to his face, like a narcissistic injury, some sort of confrontation, which I think he could melt down.
6:14Angie Sullivan:But his whole ethos, his whole self-preservation tactics are to avoid these narcissistic injuries, which is why he's so fixated on Obama. And it goes back to that White House Correspondents' Dinner, when Obama made a joke at his expense, which that's what everybody does with these things. But thin-skinned MAGA people, if you call them deplorables or you call them trash, they don't just go, whatever. It's just politics is a blood sport. That's a part of it. They literally fatally feel this shit. They fatally feel it. If some Debbie in the comment section calls them out, you know, that has she, her pronouns in their bio.
6:50Angie Sullivan:These people have stage five meltdowns about it. It's crazy how sensitive they are. Moving along, Trump is surrounded by a bunch of rich, corrupt, mediocre people. And somebody that is really doing incredibly dangerous work, dismantling democracy, dismantling the pillar of journalism, of free speech, is David Ellison and Larry Ellison. And according to the Wall Street Journal, of all places, it's revealing that Trump made a quid pro quo with the Ellison family. Pop this up. Under Trump, the Ellisons and their companies have gotten mega merger approvals, plus pieces of TikTok and a$500 billion AI data center plan.
7:42Angie Sullivan:A$45 million donation to a Trump 501c4 helped cement the relationship, the Wall Street Journal reports. So what's telling to me about this is, again, these people all have to cheat. They can't get the merger approval on their own merit. Elon Musk can't put his name on a ballot and go run. Peter Thiel can't put his name on a ballot and go run. Donald Trump can't make seven or eight billion dollars on his own. They are now basking in a system that was not quite fixed. that was the structures of this white supremacy rigging stuff for mediocre white people to excel were scapegoated by, oh, we're letting black people in Harvard now.
8:30Angie Sullivan:And then, you know, everybody freaks out. Now it's on steroids where all of these people are able to leapfrog over skill or earn earning something or on their own merit and pay off Trump because that's what, that's the way Trump likes to operate. Ellison also personally called Trump and dangled an overhaul of CNN and Paramount Skydance if he won the deal for Warner Brothers. And this is such a massive news story, the corruption. Journalism is so incredibly important. And Donald Trump can, you know, freak out and throw feces at the wall and say, quiet piggy and do all of his shit. But journalism is the central component of this country.
9:15Angie Sullivan:It writes wrongs. It shines a light on injustice. And then you have to take those things to the court system. Both of these things have been completely dismantled by Donald Trump and these rich people that claim they love the country, but they don't. They don't believe in any of this stuff because they don't live in a country with borders. They live wherever they want. They do whatever they want. They can't understand what a normal person's life is like. So they operate with impunity and wreck 330 million people's lives. And that's before we even get to all of the aid and all that that Elon Musk has cut off.
9:54The corruption is just real. Like you read about the pardons, like he, certain law firms are getting charged like a half a million dollar fees so they can go by pardons. And every pardon you see, okay, he's excused this person, this person donated a million dollars. And you just think about that. It just grows and grows and grows. Anything that benefits Donald Trump. But it just strikes me, Donald Trump knows he's not popular. And he knows that what he's doing is wrong because he doesn't want to hear that he's not perfect. And so dangling CNN as a way to get him to lube the system for Larry Ellison, And that does not surprise me at all because he wants to watch five TV screens full of Fox News saying how great he is.
10:40And you know what? I don't I still don't think he would be pleasant or nice. It wouldn't fix him. That's for sure.
10:47Angie Sullivan:No. And this whole war on the press started before Trump. The right wing has always had a real problem with the free press because facts have a liberal bias. The truth leans, you know, the arc of justice bends towards more acceptance, more inclusivity. And the Republican Party likes to throw out that they're so moral and traditional families and, you know, the Judeo-Christian values. It's all bullshit. It's all bullshit. They want to rig the system. If you look at the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025, dismantling the press has been something that has been a huge problem for them. And all of this spawned from FDR's success.
11:32Angie Sullivan:FDR had multiple terms as president. And he, after the Great Depression, really was a president that showed the people what government could deliver for them materially. And people liked it. He was wildly popular. And the Republican Party has been reeling from that ever since. They even made a new amendment. You could only do two terms. They started a war on the press. And they are focused and diabolical and they play the long-term game. And then enter Trump. Trump has given them the ability to do this transparently. Trump likes to talk about transparency. And he's doing all of these things that the Republican Party put on the face.
12:14Angie Sullivan:Oh, we love the free press and the Constitution. It was all bullshit. They knew the free press was a huge, huge problem for them. If it was exposed, what a lot of these big swinging dicks were doing, ripping people off, these corporations are lying and causing cancer clusters and all of these things. They didn't want that disinfected. They didn't want that brought into the light. So the Republican Party has been reacting ever since the huge success of Democratic Socialist, if you will, FDR. And they have played this long term game in dismantling it. And this is why I would argue that moderate Democratic politics are not enough to mitigate this machine.
12:53Angie Sullivan:You have to go back to delivering for people, making people believe in government, showing them what it does, safety regulations, clean water, clean all the stuff. And moving along here, Politico is reporting that the Trump administration is running interference for Mark Zuckerberg, another inferior man who went on Joe Rogan's podcast and said that he felt like he was neutered while Joe Biden was president. And I don't know how that is like a something that you want to say out loud on camera. But nonetheless, these men do this. Tommy Vitor of Pod Save posted the following. Pop this up. Pretty disgusting quid pro quo here.
13:32Angie Sullivan:Tech CEOs like Mark Zuckerberg and Sunder Piace pay Trump bribes in the form of donations to his inauguration or via lawsuits. And now they don't have to testify before Congress about kids getting exploited on their platforms. So say it with me again, you guys. MAGA is an anti-family, anti-child, pro-pedophilia death cult. They say they care about kids. They don't. They don't. You know, every time one of these insufferable billionaires comes out and they're like on the inauguration stage, I immediately am like, what do they want from Trump? So now we're like 18 months into this presidency. OK, we knew Elon Musk.
14:23That was a gimme. He needed to get into Doge so he wouldn't go to prison. He said that out loud. But now it's just it's unbelievable how these billionaires that have everything. The reason they're not using their money is because they want the rules not to apply to them like they see not applying to Donald Trump. Accountability for the elite class doesn't exist. Look no further than Jeffrey fucking Epstein. We have one person in jail over that. all of these fucking people want protection without consequences and no accountability it's gross
15:00Angie Sullivan:it's really gross and the billions of dollars they have it's not enough it's not enough it's just like it unlocks the psychosis in the billionaire class it unlocks this insatiable level of entitlement and privilege that is so unbecoming it is genuinely unbecoming and speaking of unbecoming here is elon elon musk has been unraveling because congressman roe connor came on this here podcast spoke to me about elon musk cutting usaid and a peer-reviewed ucla study that determined that the usaid cuts are going to kill millions of children elon musk stage five meltdown titty baby city fetal position you've seen it before so he starts posting old clips of him talking about USAID and let's play this one.
15:50Angie Sullivan:And then when we ask for any evidence whatsoever, I say, well, please connect us with this group of children so we can talk to them and understand more about their issue. We get nothing. We don't, they don't even try to prevent show. I come up with a, with a show often, meaning like this sort of like, well, can we at least see a few kids? okay so here's here's what he's saying like okay fine he's saying i won't cut the aid if you can get these kids to call me get these kids to zoom me it's he's so divorced from reality these are poor kids with diseases that are looking for grain and clean filtered water to stay alive and elon musk says can you get me in touch with this group of kids so i can verify the veracity of their claims.
16:39Angie Sullivan:That's number one. Number two, my argument that I've had for a long time that as a culture, we attribute intelligence to rich people, just because we live in such a hyped up, steroidal, capitalistic society, we think, God, if somebody gave them the system that well, they must be really smart. It's bullshit. Listen to him speak there. I mean, this is like what, sixth grade, seventh grade speaking level. What kind of thought process is that? Get me in touch with these super poor kids in third world countries, get them on a Zoom. Like what kind of moron thinks that that is a logical thought? I mean, that's not a high IQ individual that couldn't go through the thought process of going, oh yeah, these kids are really poor.
17:20Angie Sullivan:It'd be impossible to get me in touch with them, but I could get on my private plane and fly over there and do a ground check, but he is not interested in that. That's not what any of this was about. Some bullshit on all of these guys being smart. The only thing these guys are good at is exploiting people and spiraling out in their manic psychosis. It's true. It's absolutely true. And my thing is like, okay, you know where Starlink goes and not. Like, he knows. This is the big, it's not even a good excuse, like you said. And I will say, I've admitted on this podcast before, before I knew anything about Elon Musk, I thought, oh, well, he invented Tesla.
17:59It must be smart. I was so wrong. I attributed exactly. He didn't invent Tesla. uh no i know i mean you just bought it but i'm just saying like so i was i did that i attributed to elon musk oh he must be smart now i'm thinking this is the dumbest motherfucker on the planet no wonder he has to get all these baby mamas no one could fucking stand him for more than 10 minutes
18:21Angie Sullivan:yeah and i mean this is a guy who again the a trillionaire i heard his spacex is tanking now but whatever i mean he's got more money than could boat that could choke every bull on the planet it, right? And he's still broken. He's sitting here spiraling out because Ro Khanna is calling him out. And his legacy will forever be, in my opinion, the richest man in the world that ever existed that killed the most children in the world, just because he's a broken piece of shit. All right, that's all we have. Like, subscribe, comment. We'll be back later with more news.
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