209 - What Your Feet Know About Your Health

24:11Okay. Before that, you just said that you believe the liver connects the spirit and the body together. So explain that. What does that mean? Yeah. So my friend and many mentors in this Wu world of four bodies have educated and mentored me on higher function, higher wisdom. and I believe the liver is one of the most powerful opportunities our body has to connect to filter and I think the higher function of the liver is it is there's a body and spirit connection it is the brain of the gut it does so much because what do we hear the most about in this world sluggish liver methylation issues inability to detox we've got to support the liver that's one of your big missions, right?

24:56That was a journey that your body took you on to be the light for so many people. And the liver is huge too. If we look at the physical size of the liver, I remember getting a Body Worlds cadaver exhibit of the liver. It was my whole body. So when we look at how big it is, it's bigger than the brain. It has an important role in the body and it is not just physical. It is a spiritual sense of how we are connected to our body. That is so interesting. So So spiritually, it's what's helping us keep in tune with the higher power? I think so. I do. Because what keeps us from something bigger? Rage, anger.

25:31When we become it instead of experience it. When we can push it outside and look at it and say, I am feeling really angry right now. Instead of, I am angry and I've become angry, which we all do. We all get to take that opportunity. We get to look at it and say, I'm feeling really angry right now. And oftentimes that's when we get stagnation or methylation issues in the liver. We're either not listening to that feeling or we've become it and we're good at it and we can't let it rise. So instead of saying, I am angry, it's I feel angry. You're looking at it differently. The Irish say the anger is upon me.

26:05Interesting. Okay, so I know when you foot zone me that my spleen is always, should we say, an issue? I don't think it's an issue. I know that you always look at it a good way. So this is what I love being on Carlin's beat. And this is why I have my books here with me. So I want to show what a session looks like. So your marker on your feet, your left foot, that spleen marker is significant. Nothing's gone wrong. It's not diseased. It's where you spend time learning wisdom. So the higher function of that spleen, and I want everybody to just think about Karlyn's mission, about what she's helped us with and that the light that she is shining all around the world, your spiritual function of the spleen, it helps to create balance, stability, contentment, security, peace, and fulfilling relationships.

26:54It establishes clear boundaries. It promotes clear thinking and spiritual nourishment. It filters out old beliefs and ideas. I hope you can feel the power of your life in every single one of those wisdom functions, of the experience you had with your mental health, of your powerful statements against what is good for the body and what is not. Those clear boundaries, that's where you thrive. That's where your goodness gets bigger. Like every single one of those. Balance, stability in our food system, in our ingredients. And it's not been easy for you to get there, right? No, it hasn't at all. But nothing's gone wrong.

27:31Well, I'll say that there's been lots of challenges with my business and things that I'm doing, but we have gotten through it. But I do love what you said about getting rid of old ideas and bringing in new ideas. Yes, I sort of feel like that's what Just Ingredients is doing. What I'm doing is we're trying to disrupt the market a little bit and saying like, yeah, for years and years we have done everything without nourishing foods. We've made foods from artificial things. Let's get rid of that old idea and bring in a new idea of making food from food. which is creating contentment in homes, peace, security, and our food products.

28:06Like everything that I can see is reflective of your life. You have chosen so well in your opportunity to work through it and rise up. Well, that is so nice of you to say. So I'm curious, though, if another foot zoner felt my spleen, who only looked at the negative things, what would be the negative aspect of it? They might say that your immune system is compromised or that your body has a hard time filtering things out. And maybe they would say that there is weakness in the body there and you get sick easily. And maybe that's been your experience. And I just heard you talking to people before this.

28:45Oh, if they're sick, try this supplement. This one is going to help so much. Or, I mean, that's just the whole point of what your mission in life is. and maybe another foot zoner saying it's gone wrong would not leave you feeling as empowered to do that, right? But if someone could show you the reflective hopefulness of why nothing's gone wrong and your spleen's giving you the wisdom for your life, we're going to feel more connected to our mission in that way. I love that because I don't feel like I get sick a lot at all, but I feel like I take care of my body in a good way with nourishing foods and supplements and things that it doesn't get sick often, knock on wood.

29:23Right. And another thing with the spleen in your immune system is sometimes it's very good at detecting when ingredients aren't good for your body. Sometimes when our immune system has a hard time, gluten becomes a problem. Certain types of dairy with additives can become a problem. Sugar can really throw the body off. And the spleen is a good detector of saying, hey, it's your immune system here. We need some help. That's interesting. Okay, I'll take that as a 100 % in my body because I can tell instantly if I've eaten something without the good ingredients. Oh my goodness, I can feel it. In fact, I tell people that I have a digestive system of lace made from lace just because I can tell if it's got seed oils in it.

30:05I can tell if it's got too much sugar in it. I just don't feel good. And that gift developed for you in one of the hardest experiences of your life. That is true. Right? And so that is the wisdom of your immune system. You've been gifted an incredibly sensitive immune system for good reason. Oh, I love that. See, you take everything to the positive. I never thought of a digestive system made of lace, as I call it, as a gift. But you're right. It's protecting me from falling into the terrible depression that I once was at. Because probably when you were in that space, you've said many times, I was eating cereal every night.

30:44I was having sugary stuff because you had turned off your wisdom in your body, right? I didn't know any better. Right. You would become the dysfunction. You would maybe bought into what wasn't going well. And then our bodies have this signal to wake up, rise up. There's this green light that goes off in us. And we're given these experiences that often look so messy. And you've learned through your wisdom to not be a victim. How is life working for you? And that to me is like the best shining example. Nothing has ever gone wrong in the body. Oh, I love that so much. Let's take a quick break to hear from our show sponsor.

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32:51So let's say there's people out there dealing with both of those. What do you suggest to them? Every person is dealing with grief and trauma in some way. And again, I think with grief and trauma, how I've seen it shown up in my own life. Foot zoning has been so powerful. I just received a zone the other day from a friend and going through a hard experience as we all are in life, having her gently sit at my feet through my own grief and my own learning right now, I felt so validated and so witnessed and so loved as I could honestly share my experience in the foot zone of what grief and trauma looks like for me, what life is teaching me right now.

33:32And that's the gift of everyone in the experience of being human with grief and trauma. They get to be witnessed. Okay, so does it help alleviate the grief? Yeah. It validates it. How many of us just fight and shame ourselves in grief? I shouldn't feel this way. If this would just go away, I would be better. I would feel fine. And so we get stuck in these mental loops in our mind. And when we sit down and our body and spirit have a chance to stop fighting and stop shaming and remember, oh, I get the privilege of feeling grief because I've loved so much. And this is where it's showing up in my body.

34:11That's powerful. See, again, you turn it to positive. I've never once this whole year in my grief journey because of my sister thought of it as a positive experience. It's a powerful human experience, you know. Positive experience because I loved so much. Loved so much. How blessed are we that we get to grieve over things that show a wide and vast opportunity to feel as a human. That's how we relate. It's how we connect. It's why people love you, because you can share those experiences so beautifully. You let us into your life. We feel a part of it. We are cheering for you. I think it's powerful when we connect our opportunities.

34:52And the foot zone has shown me how to do that in everything I've been in in life. That is incredible. Okay, but I'm curious about the reality of this. Say someone going through grief. Do you have to have a foot zone every week, every other week, every month? It doesn't matter. I'm a sass. Some people have rules about the foot zone. I say when you can get still enough and that impression comes to your mind, that's a beautiful time for a foot zone. I know. What if you can't get still enough? For sure. You get real still when you make that appointment in the foot zone. And sometimes it takes us a couple of times before our mind can even calm down enough.

35:23It's a practice. Foot zoning is a practice. When my daughter Grace was going through our opportunity all those years ago, we found that that first foot zone lasted about 10 days and then we saw the spiral start. So we found for her body, it told us every two weeks she needed a zone for three months. And then that impression just came to her mind when she needed it. And she could take control and take the power to say, mom, it's time for a foot zone, which is another incredible part of foot zoning. We learn how to regulate our bodies. And we learn when we need that and when we're dysregulated. And when the grief has become so heavy that we need the alignment.

35:57We need the stillness. We need the awareness. So it's going to look different for everybody. And I always give people permission. You can hate your zones. This cannot be for you, but you have taken a step you didn't take last week. You have done one thing and you're one step closer to where you were before. It's not wasted. Even if it isn't for you, you and I both had terrible foot zoning experience. Not terrible, but where they weren't positive anymore. I wasn't feeling hopeful. And it led us to something different. It led me to a different way to foot zone people. I love that you just are in tune to know when the next zone should be.

36:32Yeah. I love that. Okay, so someone going through grief, they might need zoning for a year, two years, a couple of years. Yeah. And this is, again, why I love the app. You've had your whole family go through grief, right? It can be pricey for families to get all of them getting what they need in another world of grief that we weren't prepared for. So that's why I love the app because we have so many opportunities where we can be doing this for each other and just rubbing somebody's feet. And I know I'll get booed out of the foot zoning world, but just rub feet. It doesn't have to be proper technique.

37:06Connecting to someone at their feet. We have so many studies showing what it does, the closeness that it brings. So if people are in that experience of grief and trauma, pick up some feet. Go rub someone's feet. If you want a full professional foot zone, a gift. You will be changed because of it. I promise that. And do it as often as you need. but if you want to connect with people in your family or friends doing hard things just pick up their feet and start rubbing them because i love that you said to me earlier no one's killed someone by rubbing their feet turns out just walking doesn't kill us you know like nobody has ever dropped dead and we get into a lot of rules in any of our professions right of you can't zone this you can't do this they'll drop dead if you zone this you'll catch this if you zone someone with that rub some feet pick up some feet and connect with somebody sit below them witness them look up in their eyes.

37:56You will be changed when you do that. Okay, so you have the app. So someone like me can just look at the app. Yeah. And do it on my kids. But then you also do have a school. Yeah. You teach people how to become professional certified zoners. Yeah, that's my passion. That is where my heart lies. It's changed me. I'm eight years into teaching students and being with practitioners and the curriculum of teaching someone how their body works and what emotions are going on and what power they have. I will never tire of that work. And we have an incredible directory of zoners we've trained all over the world.

38:31That is where my heart lies, is this narrative, this message that nothing has ever gone wrong, as messy as life gets. And this is how we can attend to and love other people. Okay. So those that are listening, I know may be like, oh my gosh, where's this directory? You said you have a directory of people that have finished yeah your school yeah yep it's thefootzoningmethod.com and we have a directory of well over 250 foot zoners all over the world and so many of your listeners love the foot zone i have had so many foot zoners right so i had an entire class one time of everybody that you um had sent my way from for foot zoning and they are incredible zoners because you've educated them i love hearing this.

39:14Like you've done such a beautiful job of educating people all over the world, looking for the and, empowering our homes. And I have been the benefactor of seeing that truly in play in people's lives. And it's so powerful. I love that they're looking for the and. Yeah. A-N-D, the and part to put the Western and the Eastern together. I love that. Okay. So people can find one of those practitioners or they can go to your school if they want to learn how to do it themselves and they create a business on their own and learn it just for their family. Yeah. Which I think is awesome. Okay. Talking to you, I'm actually really feeling like I need a foot zone, but I'll tell you why.

39:51I do feel like it is truly like a reset. Like I feel charged and ready to go again after one. So does it help with energy then? Yeah, it does reset. It reboots the computer. It completely takes where you're at. It raises the frequency. It raises the love in your body. It helps emotions that are hanging on and stagnant. It helps them to clear from the body. It is truly, I'm still in my zone high from a couple of days ago, and I have found the best reset in the four bodies. Okay, so I have a lot of listeners that tell me on a daily basis, like, I struggle with energy. By 2, 3 o 'clock in the afternoon, I am exhausted.

40:33I have to go get my Diet Coke. Like, that's probably one of my biggest complaints. And so, does foot zoning help with this? Yeah, 100%. Just because we know that has a lot to do with the endocrine system. We know that's a lot having to do with the thyroid and hormones in the body. And my first thought to that is when I hear that, why aren't we taking a nap? Who has time for a nap? Heidi, I wish I could take a nap. Right. But 20 minutes to be still. I loved your post the other day about what can we do free? What do we do that doesn't cost money? What if what was being begged for is 20 minutes of being still in a nap?

41:08Right. I wonder what would happen if we did that instead of putting the caffeine into our bodies and pushing those adrenal glands harder and pushing our endocrine system harder. because to me when I hear that physically well if they're going for caffeine they're trying to push or push through something what if the wisdom was to sit with something was to feel hard with these new moms too that have little toddlers and they can't go take a nap not a nap but still for 20 minutes that's an incredible reset just let their mind relax put the phone down give themselves permission to listen to their mind just for a minute and to show some self-compassion for 20 minutes.

41:44I do love that. When I am having a really stressful day, I'll go out on our front porch and just ground and sit there without my phone for like 20 minutes. And I do feel refreshed and more ready to go. And if that's what the wisdom of the body needs, that's what we do. Can a foot zone act as Diet Coke? Probably not. But it will tell you what the message is that your body is trying to tell you. And if you're so overwhelmed, you are having to bring in other things to push through, I would really consider a stillness practice. And maybe that is a foot zone. Maybe that is that reset, right? Okay. So one other thing that my listeners deal with all the time, because I get questions every day about it, is hormonal imbalances.

42:24Like, especially we've got people going through perimenopause, but then people just with, you know, high estrogen or low progesterone, all the different things. So does foot zoning help with balancing hormones? Yeah. In fact, in that premium app, I created hormone imbalance and I gave the markers for the pituitary gland, the thalamus, hypothalamus and pineal gland. And those are the master generals in charge in the body. One thing I love teaching students is you get the secretion. It's all about secretions with our hormones. And the first one that gets secreted is our pituitary gland. It sits right behind our nose.

42:57And the first thing that pituitary gland does, it's in charge of the thyroid, the conversions with the liver. It helps to support the reproductive glands. The first thing it gives is to our pineal gland to create melatonin. It tells me sleep is the most important thing for hormones to restore. Yeah. Yeah. So foot zoning is incredible because we hit on every endocrine part and every reproductive organ. And we get to speak to the spiritual function. It is to create. It is to give permission to use our intuition. That is the purpose of our endocrine and reproductive systems is to nurture ourselves is to nurture others, is to listen, is to show up, is to go out and get work done in inserting ourselves in life and creating.

43:43And too many of us are taking ourselves out of that game. We're playing too small. Ooh, I love that. But are we playing too small because of the hormonal imbalances? Or is it our thoughts and feelings about where we're not good enough and can't go out and create? Why we're too busy to nurture ourselves? Why we can't give ourselves permission to fill our feelings. Interesting. Okay, so that could be fear, though. Fear of not wanting to be brave to go out there to do what we should do. Yeah, it could be mental download about where we've limited ourself, and now we have emotions going on of fear.

44:16So does foot zoning help qualities, characteristics in somebody, like to be more brave? Yes, 100%. When we can reset that area and reset that organ, give them that inclination, like, hey, here's your spleen marker. That's so interesting this is going on, I feel so much more empowered. I go out and I'm like, yeah, I remember that about myself. Instead of, man, I'm a mess. My brain's on fire. There's such a difference when we empower people with that gift. We do want to create more. We do remember ourselves. And we do go out and change the world after a foot zone. We change our world. We change the world of the people that are around us because we know ourselves better.

44:55I love that. Okay, so if someone's listening and has never had a foot zone, let's just explain to them that what would happen. What would happen? Now it sounds like it's some woo-woo practice, but it's not. It's not. Well, first of all, I'm going to go to an incredible practitioner and everyone has a different way of taking care of you. But the thing about foot zoning is it's very thorough. There's over 200 techniques on the feet. So when I teach someone a foot zone, you're going to be sitting with them for about 70 to 90 minutes. This isn't small. It's not short. This is fully resetting. And one thing that I love teaching the foot zone is I do not teach heavy pressure in the foot zone because of everything we just talked about.

45:35When I'm feeling the emotion of anger and rage, I don't want someone beating the heck out of my feet and white knuckling in a chair. And there are a lot of techniques that believe if it doesn't hurt, it doesn't work. That's not how I want to feel. I don't want someone pummeling me when I have a hard emotion. So you can expect from our directory a very gentle foot zone. It feels incredible. It's the best foot rub of your whole life. And for 70 to 90 minutes, truly, even if you don't believe into the woo, it is the best foot rub you'll ever get. Okay, so I have a question about a session because I ask a lot of questions while they're zoning me.

46:09And I'm always like, oh, what are you working on right now? And you know that I'll ask you. I'm like, what are you working on? Oh, why that hurt? Oh, why this? And then some people will tell me after a foot zone, Oh, I hated it because they didn't say anything. So I don't know what they even worked on or anything about my health. And so is it normal to sit through one quietly? Should they be talking to you? You need to find this foot zoner for you, for sure. And I do have lots of students that they are stillness masters. They love people to shut off their brain, and they're quiet while they go to work.

46:40And they don't feel like that extra part is what they want to give clients. They feel like the gift of quiet and being still, and they are still people who offer that. And then I have practitioners that are, they love to answer the questions. They love to be like, oh my gosh, look at this going on in your stomach. And oh my goodness, look at your cerebrospinal fluid. This is going on right here. Have you been having headaches? We're going to pop this open and you're going to feel so much better. I think this emotion was going on. So for a foot zone to work, we have to remember that our bodies know how to heal.

47:07And when they're set into motion, that's when healing happens. It's a bonus. If you're curious about what's going on in your body, that's important for your healing. and you can connect with a foot zoner who does that. That's a match made in heaven is finding where you're at and what you need and give yourself permission to try different zoners for different times in your life and different experiences that you're going through. Okay, that's good advice. So find one that's good for you. And if you want quiet, great. Find one that's quiet. If you want one that's going to explain everything, find that.

47:36I actually want your book while you're zoning me because I actually want to look at your book shows like every organ, right? And it shows like the physical part, the spiritual part. the emotional part. And so is that book something that people can buy? They get when they go through the foot zoning program. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They will get that when they are a practitioner. I may just have to go through your schooling just to get that book. Yeah. I'm always like, Heidi, just hand me that book. Let me let me see what each organ is trying to tell me. Yeah. All right. I have loved talking about foot zoning with you.

48:08I hope you listeners go find someone to foot zone or you guys, this app I'm telling you is incredible. It saved me when my daughter was just had that stinking cold and she was so ornery about it. And I just got your app and it showed so simply how to do it. So her app is amazing. But where can they find you? Yeah. So I'm on Instagram, Heidi McKay or The Foot Zoning Method. And then we have a website too. So thefootzoningmethod.com. So check her out on Instagram, her website. But I do have a question. You said if they have feet and are alive, you can foot zone them. So sometimes I hear like, oh, so-and-so wouldn't foot zone me because of this and this.

48:44I should have asked you that earlier. So can anyone get a foot zone? I would say there's a couple of times I would say when people can't get a foot zone. If they are under orders like radiation orders with their thyroid and they can't be around anybody. Oh, yeah. That's doctor's orders, right? And then I've had an experience with people in the ICU. If someone's been off their feet for a significant amount of time, I would do a very gentle foot zone. But I've also had people in the ICU where it's absolutely saved them when they're in that really intense hospital experience. But very often, there is no one I exclude from the foot zone.

49:17And that goes against a lot of foot zoning rules in the world that a lot of people have established that we shouldn't zone people with certain things. I'm just a sass. I'm too curious. I don't believe in me. I believe in their body. Well, that just goes to finding a foot zoner that's right for you. Yeah, yeah. That's exactly what it comes down to. Yep. I love that. I love what you've taught about foot zoning, you guys. Foot zoning is amazing. Thank you for being here. Yeah. And I always end the podcast this season with doing five rapid fire questions. Love it. Really quick answers. Okay. Okay.

49:52So first one, what emerging health topic excites you the most? Oh, emotions and health. Okay. What is a piece of advice you give to your younger self? Keep going. What's the one health practice you'll never compromise on no matter how busy life gets? Stillness. What's your favorite Just Ingredients product and why? Two, the serum. That nourishing routine for your face. Taking our face and our hands and witnessing ourselves is my favorite, and it's such nourishing ingredients. Your vitamin C is one of the most feminine vitamin Cs for women's bodies, and I am into supplements. I do all of it. When I use them for myself and when I've recommended them to other people, they are so good with helping close the gap with anemia, with energy levels.

50:38The way you formulated that and the ingredients that you used, I have never seen. They're pink, they're feminine, and I believe they are so powerful for women. I have never heard my vitamin C called feminine. So I love that. We could talk a whole thing on feminine energy. Okay, what is the best ingredient to life? Love. Always love. I love that. Always love. There's always enough to receive and there's always enough to give. I love that. And it just shows in how you do your foot zoning because you love every organ and every opportunity and every emotion that that organ could provide for you. Yeah.

51:16I love that. Well, thank you so much for being here. So good to be here. Thank you. Thank you for being here and being part of this community. don't forget to subscribe to the just ingredients podcast we've got so much more to share with you and if you're not already come join us daily on all social media platforms at just.ingredients until next time keep choosing what nourishes you