Cancer, Mold & Motherhood: Becky’s Incredible Story w/ Becky Witt

25:08I have no idea. I just feel like this environment that we're in, everything is just leading to, I'm going to relapse again. Oh, interesting. And we sold the house. The lady who remodeled it, she came in and remodeled it, found black mold or some type of mold underneath all the floorboards, behind the refrigerator, underneath the refrigerator. Oh, my goodness. And you even, you cannot see any of it. You can't see any of it? No, nothing. Oh, that makes me worried for my own house. Like, what's there? You know what I mean? Right. But we had a known water event. On the toilet part, though? Yeah. But behind the fridge also?

25:43That was on the other side of the wall. Oh, on the other side of the toilet. Yeah. Incident. Yeah. Oh, interesting. And mold is crazy because you can't see it. And it is in new builds. And we do see it a lot in our clinic. And I don't ever want to be fearful about it. Yeah. Because it does play a huge role in health, but also we have to live with a certain amount. So do you think your mold contributed to your cancer? Yeah, definitely. So interesting. Yeah, and I think because it's immunosuppressive. Sometimes the molds, they give people to suppress the immune system so that a kidney transplant will take.

26:18Okay. So mold is immunosuppressive. It's carcinogenic. So it causes cancer. It affects the liver. It really affects every part. So when you're exposed to it, it's affecting the immune system. And it also affected my gut, caused that bloating and stuff like that. So makes sense that leaky gut inflammation. It was just a perfect storm. And cancer is it's the perfect storm. Yeah. OK, so how many years ago did you finish your last chemo and were cancer free? So that was just 10 years ago last fall. And you're still cancer free. Yeah. Congratulations. That is amazing, especially after a relapse. And then I failed immunotherapy because they wanted me to do immunotherapy.

26:58Oh, I don't know this part. Okay, let's talk about this part. They wanted me to do immunotherapy. When did they want you to do this? Immediately after the transplant. Okay. And so I did two rounds and I lost feeling in both my legs on my way to work one day. Okay. Let's tell people what immunotherapy is, just if they don't know. Yeah, so it's supposed to help your immune system then target the cancer cells or just prevent you from relapsing. Okay. Yeah, so it's training your immune system, which now looking back, mold affects the immune system. The gut affects the immune system. So all of that.

27:31My immune system was definitely... Was shot. Yeah, it was shot. So then I do this immunotherapy and I couldn't feel my legs. Interesting. And why is that, do you think? I don't know. It's just a side effect that I had. And so at this point, I said, you know what? We're done. We can do this holistically from here on out. I'll take my chances. Because you were cancer-free at the time. Yeah. Okay, so let's talk about what you did then holistically and what you are doing today. Yeah, so I got a naturopathic doctor, healed my gut for the first time in my life. I had such bad yeast, fungus, bacteria.

28:05I had everything going on in my gut. So we worked on that, nutrition, detoxing, MTHFR gene. Okay. Yep, so that plays a huge role in detoxification. So we worked on that, IVs, so like Myers cocktails, vitamin C, all the things. We moved. We got back out in the country. Okay. I promised myself I would never work those crazy hours ever again, and I haven't. Good for you. Yeah, so we've literally changed every aspect of our life. And then the toxins came in. The toxins, we started learning about toxins. Actually, I started following you, I think it was, back then. Cleaning products, beauty products.

28:41We switched over everything. Good for you. Yeah. And now you run a clinic. Yeah, so that inspired me. I felt better in my late 30s than I had in my 20s. I feel better now that I'm 40 than I had in my 20s. So I looked at my doctor and I said, how do I do this? How do I help people? We got to get, I want to help people before they get to this point. I want to prevent this. Good for you. And so he gave me a course and then I'll do another course. And then I went back to the American College of Healthcare Sciences. I've always been in a course ever since then. Oh, I love that. Yeah. So then you have a clinic now in Wisconsin.

29:16Yes. With practitioners in there and helping all types of illnesses. It's crazy. We see infants to people in their 80s and 90s. We have such a wide variety of clients that we serve. Oh, I just have to tell you this story. We had a little boy, one years old, come in, and he had seen doctors at prestigious clinics. And he had ulcers from his mouth all the way through his digestive tract. Oh, my goodness. So you were diagnosing him at Crohn's and wanted to start him on a biologic at one years old. Oh, my goodness. And so the mom came to us and she goes, can you guys dig deeper? Can you find something?

29:51And we said, yeah, I think it's mold. And so we had a testing on him. We did a total tox test. We ran gut testing on him. And he had been on prednisone and couldn't get off prednisone. Every time he would wean, he would relapse. Interesting. And so once they got out of the environment, within a month, he got off prednisone. Wow. So did they just have mold in their house? So we had an inspector go find it. They remediated. when they were able to move back in. The first time that they tried to move back in, he relapsed. Oh my goodness. After they remediated more. It's now been six months. We've worked on his gut.

30:25We've gotten the mold out of him and he's completely fine. His numbers are normal. His gut is normal and his doctors can't believe it. Oh, that is fascinating. Okay. Let's actually talk about mold because I actually have a son that has mold and we're trying to deal with all of his health issues and get that out of him. And that was due to living in a moldy apartment or an apartment with black mold in it. Now my daughter just got tested two days ago for mold because she's had some health issues. And she's like, mom, I lived in that apartment that had mold in it. I think I might have mold. And I'm like, we are going to go test.

31:02So what do you do for people with mold? So we do start with testing. So we start with an entire health history and environmental history because you can have mold in you from years ago. It could be a current exposure. So we really want to narrow down where did this come from? We want the whole timeline. And then we do a year in mycotoxin testing or total toxin testing on our clients. Okay. And then we pair that with an environmental testing. Are they still in the apartment? No. Thankfully. No, no, no. They're out of both those apartments. Oh, good. And it's so common. 60 % of homes, apartments now have mold in them today.

31:36Oh my goodness. Well, I can see with apartments because these landlords just They don't take care of it like a homeowner does. Yeah, and that's tricky too. I ended up with mold in my office back in Eau Claire, my first office. And it was really tricky to get them to believe me. I had to write a whole article and give them studies. And then they finally just let me out of the lease because they didn't want to deal with me. But there's no liability for them. Interesting. Yeah. So we do urine mycotoxin testing with other testing too, like gut testing, organic acids testing. Because we want to see the liver function, the bile function, because that's how we're going to detox the mold.

32:09is through the liver, through the bile, through the gut, and using specific binders and stuff like that. A lot of people, though, maybe, I'm assuming, the MTHFR gene are more prone to having issues with the mold because of having detox issues. The MTHFR plays a role. There's also HLA-DR, which is 25 % of the population has that where they don't detox mold well. Oh. Yeah. So there's that. And also, it's just total toxic load. Like anybody can be sick from mold if you've been in the environment long enough. And the exposure is so great. And that's the tricky part was mold, though, because some people have no like signs that they have mold.

32:46And then others, it really affects their health. And so and both my kids have MTHFR, have the variant. And so maybe that's why it's affecting them a little bit more than it would affect somebody else. I would guess so. Yeah, for sure. Because, yeah, we can have a family of four and maybe the kids have issues or one of the kids has severe issues. but mom is fine or maybe mom has hormonal issues but they don't all put pieces together and or dad has headaches but it all seems so common and like that can't all be related yeah it is all related and the tricky thing with mold is you're not always going to see it but are there some signs that people can look for in their home yes you can look for underneath your sinks if there's bubbling if there's peeling paint if there's staining if they're staining on your ceiling, stuff like that.

33:34Like there's some stuff that you can look for, but a lot of times it is hidden. And you can start with an ERMI, so a dust test, where you take the dust in your home because mold collects in the dust. It travels in the dust because it's heavier. And so you can run a dust test on your house just to get an overall picture of what you may be dealing with. But it's also important to know that no home is mold free completely. And so there's certain molds you don't want on your ERMI. Okay. Yeah. And I'm a little nervous, everyone because we found bubbling of paint on one of our walls and I need someone to come in and check it out.

34:06So you want to get a proper inspection then and you want to interview these inspectors and make sure that they're going to do swab sampling. They're going to look behind walls or they're going to drill into walls and do air sampling behind the wall. They're going to have thermal cameras. You don't want just an air sample in the middle of the room. That's not going to be accurate and that gives people such a false sense of security. I'll return and report when I get this investigation done. Okay, but I'm curious because you start this clinic. Yeah. And then I just met you a little while ago and met your cute little six-month-old.

34:36So I want to hear this story of your little baby. Yes. So throughout this process, after the stem cell transplant, I had never gotten a period since then. Okay. So I was put into full-blown menopause at the age of 30 at that point. Wow. Yeah. And so... Which a lot, and a lot of cancer patients, that is common. Yes. which they don't warn you about. I didn't have time to harvest my eggs. I was too close to being in the ICU. So we chose not to when they did bring it up to us six months later. But I'm like, I just pumped my body full of chemo. And now I want to harvest an egg. It just didn't make sense to me at the time.

35:10And adoption was always on our heart since we were young at 19 years old. Oh, interesting. Yeah, it was just always on our heart. And so we had to wait five years until you're clean. You have a clean scan. Until you can adopt. Oh, I did not know that. Yeah. Learn something new every day. Yeah. So we waited the five years and then we're like, well, maybe we'll foster to adopt. Okay. And my heart can't handle that because the goal is reunification with the family. And so then we're like, okay, we'll start the adoption process. I mean, it was crazy. They interview you. They come to your house. They look at your house.

35:45You have to take classes in person, classes, online classes. It was a nine-month process to go through all of that. And then you're live. So then you're live with multiple different agencies. And we used a Christian consulting agency. And then they put your profile. They help you do your profile. And they put it out to multiple agencies throughout the country. And you just wait until you're picked. And how long did you have to wait? We waited a while. We were live in October. And by March, we still were not picked, which doesn't seem like a long time. But in the grand scheme of things, it felt like we started this journey a long time ago.

36:17A long time ago. Yeah. And we got down to the final two profiles in one time. I know. And then we got the email that we didn't get picked. So that was heartbreaking. And so February, March comes along, and I just felt it on my heart again. My intuition was God was saying, I think you should look at a different agency. And I was like, okay. So I told you. You've learned to listen to your intuition really well. Really well. I mean, there's connecting with God every day, devotionals, all that, and then sitting still for the first time in my life has taught me a lot. That's incredible. Yeah. So I talked to Jeff and he goes, Becky, that's, the adoption's not reasonable at all.

36:58It's very expensive. And so he goes, okay, we can switch, but let's just give it till June. I was like, okay. So that was in March and June comes, the Friday before June 1st comes along. He goes, okay, I'm going to talk to the agency that we're thinking of switching to today. And he does. And I just put a little thing out on social media on our Instagram page. And I said, just say a prayer for us. We're considering switching agencies. It's been a long journey. And we just appreciate some prayers. And so Caitlin, who I had known because she brought her daughter, her adoptive daughter, to us for full body eczema.

37:32I mean, it was on her cheeks. It was everywhere. And we helped her. And so we helped her get her daughter completely better through our clinic. And so we knew of Caitlin. So I was friends with her online. She reaches out and said, sing prayers, but also say a prayer for our birth mom because she's pregnant again. They want us to adopt. but we can't afford to. She goes, look at my text message from March to my consultant. She goes, I said, I know of the perfect family. They're within a half an hour of us and the consultant wrote back, but they're not with our agency. So you can't tell them. Oh my goodness.

38:06And so, but God was telling you in that intuition you had. God was working everything out behind the scenes. We just didn't know it. Wow. Yeah. So she goes, look at this. I've told them about you guys. who are you guys switching to and i said we're switching to fac faithful adoption consultants and she goes wow that is who they're with so by monday morning this is on a friday by monday morning jeff had emailed them uh she had emailed them so the birth mom had not picked anybody yet wow yes they gave her our profile along with others and by wednesday we had been picked Oh my goodness. Yes. So our little Violet, her full biological sister, is a half an hour down the road from us in Wisconsin.

38:51That is amazing. It's amazing. And so we go to visit them, the birth family, in May here. So there's them. We're all going down together. And it's just a whole family affair now. And it's an open adoption. And so, yeah. That is amazing. It's incredible. You were meant to have little Violet. We were meant to have little Violet. And we were meant to wait. And that's the thing. All the cards had to play out right. Yes. And sometimes we question and we don't know what's going on, but God is always working things out behind the scenes. Yeah, that is incredible. Yeah. Well, congratulations on her. Thank you.

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40:38Now back to the show. Okay, I absolutely love your story. It is incredible. I love that you've learned to listen to your intuition. So I'm curious, well, I'm sure it has. Has your intuition played a role in how you've set up your functional health practice? Absolutely. People are going to think we're crazy for saying this, but I've never actually had a business plan. I let God lead the way with everything. You know what? I've never had a business plan either. So there you go. You're the person I met who also has never had a business plan. I just trust. I pray every morning. You know what? He just shows me the next thing.

41:14This meeting here, designed by him. There's no way we could have planned this. I know, right? The fact that you ran into my assistant in the storefront. Yes. Yes, that was incredible. Okay, so tell me about your functional health medicine clinic, though. Like, can those with cancer come to it or any sickness or tell me a little bit more about it? Yeah. So we don't see people with active cancer. We want to get to them before that point. We have a very big kids population that we see with eczema, gut issues, stuff like that, because parents are willing to do anything for their kids. That is true.

41:47So we can affect the kids. We're going to change the parents. And before you know it, they're coming and siblings are coming and dads are finally coming. And then you're teaching them along the way. And we've set them up for a lifetime now of health, hopefully. Well, I'm curious because you mentioned how your baby's biological sister came to you with eczema from head to toe. So what do you do with someone like that? Yeah, so we run a lot of gut testing, immune system. We look at the immune system. We look at total toxins. We looked at all of that with her. And yeah, she's completely clear. Is eczema a lot of times due to an overburden of toxins in a suppressed immune system?

42:26Yeah, so eczema is definitely, there's an immune dysregulation, there's a gut component, and there's usually a toxin component at some point. We have to ask the deeper questions. This is what we do in our clinic, is we ask the deeper questions until we figure it all out. And so what's impacting the immune system? 75 % of the gut, 80 % of the gut has the immune system right outside of it. And so there's a gut component there. But what's impacting the gut? So toxins, we breathe in, we inhale, or we ingest. those sort of toxins can impact the gut and so we really look at it as a whole picture and so that's what we do we ask the deeper questions and yes eczema is immune it's gut it's toxins once we work on that and mthfr and detoxing so we slowly and methodically help the body start detoxing and draining again and you can do that too fast but you can't go too slow so we slowly do that and we slowly work on the gut and it just magically just clears up do you have a system that you like most for detoxing?

43:23Everybody's different. So we take testing and we look at the testing and where people are burdened the most. So some people it's bile, some people it's liver, some people it's constipation. We've got to get that moving first because if we don't drain in the proper order, things are going to overflow and backfire. So we've got to be pooping and each day first and sweating. And sweating, yes. And then looking at liver and bile. Yep. Because the liver dumps into the bile. The bile then is carried out through the gut. So if you have a hang-up in one of those, it's going to come out with the skin. My son, when he lived in the Philippines, when he got off the plane to come back to America, he was covered in a rash from head to toe.

44:01And I was like, that is your immune system screaming for help. Your liver screaming for help. We have got to go get you tested. So your body is smart and gives you signs when things aren't right. Yes, the body is so smart. And our capacity to heal is so great, to overcome things, to rebound. I mean, I feel better now at 40 after 20 rounds of chemo, radiation, stem cell transplant, everything. So that's the biggest message is like our body's capacity to heal is so great. I love that. Every choice we make daily affects everything in our body. Let's talk about that really quick for a minute because I have a couple of questions as we wrap up here.

44:39But how you live today versus 15 years ago? Are you still concerned about what you're eating? Are you concerned about working out your stresses? What does it look like on a daily basis for you? We are so intentional now. Like we went from being disconnected to living intentionally. I like that word. Yeah. It's my word for the year. I love that. Yeah. So we are intentional about what we put in our body, the thoughts that we think, how we start our mornings, how we end the day, sunlight, everything. Working out, but not overworking out. Movement is all intentional. I love that word. Okay, so how do you make an intentional morning?

45:17Oh, we get up at about 5 a.m. and we slowly start our day. Jeff and I have coffee together and now Violet, this is so cute, you guys. She has started getting up with us. We'll have coffee with us and then we'll go back to bed. Oh, interesting. The cutest thing. But we talk about our day. We read devotionals. We pray. We set our intention for that day. And then we have coffee. We eat and then move on with the day. Love it. Yeah. So do you think in your healing, it's been physical healing, emotional healing, and spiritual healing? All of the above. All of the above. Do you think all three can play a role in cancer?

45:58100%. They do. It's the perfect storm, and that includes physical, emotional, and spiritual. Okay, so physical is easy to understand because it's the physical food, the toxins we're surrounded by, things like that. Emotional and spiritual. A lot more. How do we use those in healing? It takes a lot of intention as well, and I used to call myself a realist. I was like, oh, I'm just a realist, almost a pessimist. and it takes so much intention to look for glimmers, look for joy, find that joy, reshape your mindset. I read so many books. I would just devour self-care books, if you want to call them that.

46:36But you have to work on the mind. You have to. You have to change your belief system. Getting rid of the frustrations, the negative thoughts, the anger, things like that. Yes, you have to work through all of that. And we would find joy. My husband would actually wear a shirt to chemo that said pimp and joy. Oh, I love it. We would just find joy in every day. It might not, the whole day might not, might not have been joyful, but we found joy in every day. And to this day, we would make that our intention. To try to find joy in at least one thing throughout the day. At least one thing. Yes. And to look at, to reshape how you look at everything.

47:11I love that. Okay. You were very young to get cancer. 26, you said, right? That is very young. I've got a lot 25, 26, 27 year olds that work for me. So what would you tell the 20 year olds? And also, what would you say to those that maybe are that age dealing with cancer? So to the 20 year olds, you're not invincible. They think they are. We do. We think we are. We think it's not going to happen to us. We think that somebody else is going to get that. That's not going to happen to me. But you're not invincible. And every choice you make matters and those little symptoms listen to those little symptoms i always tell people symptoms are an invitation to change your life oh i like that but a diagnosis that's an invitation to radically change your life so if you're in that diagnosis go down every every possible rabbit hole not rabbit hole but every avenue you can look at the nutrition look at your thoughts Look at your beliefs.

48:09Look at your spirituality. All of that. The toxins. Find a functional medicine person if you can and work on all of that. Oh, I love that. Or combine. Combine. There's so many integrative approaches now to cancer. Like you can combine the Western. You can combine that with holistic. And there's doctors who do that. Yeah, I say it all the time, but I can't say it enough. It's like having a toolbox. Like one tool is not going to fix it. Yes. So have a toolbox of lots of different things. So like you said, the nutrition, the spiritual aspect, the exercising, the holistic approach, the Western approach, all of them.

48:42Just make them all tools in the toolbox. Absolutely. And other modalities, too. Like this is another thing in our clinic we really like to do is we like to partner with other modalities. So like cranial sacral therapy, acupuncture, chiropractic, it all plays a role in healing. And it all helps the body just unwind and stress. We want to remove those stressors. If we think of our toxin bucket, stress is in there, toxins are in there. There's a lot of stuff in there. We want to remove those to free up space for the body to heal. Oh, I love that. Stress is hard to get rid of, though. Oh, it is. Especially, I mean, you were living that crazy life of working long hours and night shifts and doing all that.

49:22And there are a lot of people out there doing that or go, go, go and are full of stress. What's your magic key to the stress of life these days? Oh, gosh, taking a step back and getting a team. A team is great. But taking a step back and honoring what I can handle and what I can't handle and what is meant for me and what's not meant for me. And honestly, releasing control. I like that. Releasing control and surrendering is not a one-time thing. It's a daily activity. We have to surrender daily. I like that. And it's putting your energy to what matters most. Yes, absolutely. I have just loved talking to you.

49:57Thank you so much for being here. Your story is inspirational. It shows that there's healing out there, especially when you were on your deathbed, basically. There is healing out there. There's hope out there. Tell people where they can find you in your clinic. Yeah, so thank you. Thank you for having me, first of all. And our clinic is Holistic Nutrition with a WH. It's a WH Holistic Nutrition. Oh, I love that. Yeah. The whole, that's why we did that. And Holistic Nutrition LLC on Instagram and Facebook. and then our clinic is in Wisconsin, but we do see clients virtually all throughout the U.S.

50:32Okay, that's so good to know. Infants to adults, gut issues, hormones, eczema, skin issues, infertility. We have beautiful, beautiful stories of infertility. Oh, I love it. Failed IVF that now she's on baby number two. Oh, I love stories like that. Oh, so many, so many wonderful stories throughout the years. Well, I love that you have taken something hard in your life and turned it around to be a spokesperson for God, like you said, and helping others. I love the people out there that are trying to do good because they went through hard themselves. So thank you for what you're doing. Thank you.

51:07You said that beautifully, a spokesperson for God. You started a podcast just recently, right? We did. My husband and I started a podcast along with the other practitioners in the clinic, and it's called Honestly Holistic. Oh, I love that. The Honestly Holistic podcast. And are you just giving medical advice, tips, health advice, all of the above? Well, all of the above, we're sharing stories. So healing stories as well, as we've seen in our clinic, as well as health topics. We'll dive deep into health topics because we love a deeper approach. And then we're also sharing our story and then our practitioner stories and how they got into it.

51:40And then Q &A sessions. Oh, I need to listen. Yeah, it just came out a couple weeks ago. I'm so excited to listen to it. We always end the podcast with asking just five quick questions. So are you ready for these? I think so. Okay. Number one, what emerging health topic excites you the most? Honestly, circadian biology and how our light and artificial light affects our hormones, our blood sugar, all of that. We've got circadian lighting at home right now, and we can see a difference in violet. We feel a difference in ourselves. Circadian biology. I've been looking into that a lot too lately. and I've been wondering if I want to change all the lighting in my house.

52:19You do. Okay I may have to talk to you about that. You can do that. Well now everybody's going to want to know. Okay we better just say really quick do you use a certain light bulb a certain brand what did you end up doing? Yes we use healthy home lighting. Okay yeah okay there you go everybody. Number two what is a piece of advice you give to your younger self? Slow down listen to the symptoms before they become too much and also slow down and connect with your inner spirit connect with god so that you can then go out and do the best love that uh number three what's the one health practice you'll never compromise on no matter how busy life gets balancing my blood sugar oh yes we wear cgms from time to time and they have been life-changing it's so insightful and there's so much to balancing your blood sugar.

53:08So you've got nutrition, stress, it encompasses everything, lighting, all of that. Yeah, I've worn one multiple times. And it is interesting what causes it to spike and what causes it to dip really low. And yeah, I recommend that just because it's been life changing for me because I can now feel without the monitor when my sugars are high and when my sugars are low. And my husband's always like, that is crazy because I almost can put a number to it because I can love that I can be like oh my gosh my sugars have dropped so low I bet you right now I'm around like the high 50s yes that's how low it is and he's like go test and I'll go test it's like 58 I'm like oh I told you I knew that would be the right number in tune with your body through and that's the whole goal of it is to become in tune so you don't need to wear the monitor all the time but blood sugar is foundational it is foundational for hormones for weight management for mood for so many things yeah well I love that you said that We could do a whole podcast on that topic.

54:05We could do a whole podcast on that topic. Okay. Question number four. What's your favorite Just Ingredients product and why? The nighttime relaxed drinks. Oh, no one ever says that on here. So I'm glad you said that. It's our little ritual. So Jeff and I will, in the summertime, drink those on the front porch as the sun is setting. We're talking about the day. We're setting our intention for the next day. And we're just recapping everything. So the strawberry limeade is the one that we drink on ice in the summer. Okay. And then the chai we have in the winter in our little coffee nook as we're ending the day.

54:35Oh, I love that. I need to be better with that. Oh, it just calms you. It does calm you down. The bed. But the electrolytes are a close second. Well, I love those too. You can't. I'm the best. Well, thank you. Okay, last question. What is the best ingredient you've found to life? Joy. And finding joy in any little moment you can. Being intentional. Intentionally finding joy, intentionally living your life. I'm going to work on that this week. I'm going to find the little piece of joy. And actually, listeners, that could be a good thing for you guys this week to just find that little piece of joy every single day, even when life is really hard.

55:09Even when you're in a hospital bed, you'll find a little piece of joy. I love that. Well, again, thank you so much for being here. Listeners, go follow Becky and go follow her clinic if you need some help in your life. So again, thank you so much for being here. Thank you.

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