Chronic Symptoms That Don't Add Up? Start Here w/ Juanique Roney

23:13Then I was like, whoa, everything made sense. I don't have 10 different diagnoses. I have one, just one. So if you have 10 or 20 different diagnoses and you've jumped around from doctor to doctor to doctor and they don't know what to do with you, you probably have SIRS and you need to

23:29Juanique Roney:treat the SIRS. I'm so glad you're saying this. And I just want to spread this podcast like crazy because I can't tell you how many people DM me on a daily basis of like, I feel so bad. I felt bad for two, three, five years, whatever. I've gone to doctor to doctor. Do you have any recommendations? Every doctor doesn't know what it is. Yeah. You hear this story. I know you do all the time in the clinic. I was that person. Yeah. Is there hope for these people? A million percent. So where do they even start? Because like you said, these people by this time of finally figuring out, sirs, have spent thousands of dollars on every, you know, treatment or supplement or pill out there.

24:07Juanique Roney:So here's the thing about SERS is you probably tried a treatment and it didn't work because it was probably done in the wrong order, right? So think of it this way. Pretend you have a bathtub with a faucet pouring water in and you have a drain, right? And there's more water coming into the bathtub than we can drain, correct? So now we have water kind of spilling into the bathroom and destroying the bathroom and causing walls. What you want to do in the order of operations is switch off the faucet first and then get a bucket and start like helping the bathtub empty itself out because it's draining really slowly right now because the bathtub is feeling sick.

24:43So it's draining, it's draining the water slowly. And so we're trying to alleviate all of this water damage with a bucket. You wouldn't leave the faucet on and then take a bucket and start emptying out and be like, why are we still flooding everywhere? That makes sense. So this is what's happening in SERS patients is they're doing everything in the wrong order. I did things in the wrong order for three years. And I'm taking the buckets out while the water is still pouring. Well, and here's the thing is the buckets are working, right? But this is why you improve a little bit, but then you go back to square one and then you improve a little bit and you go back to square one.

25:19I had access to my clinic. I could do hyperbaric all day, every day. And I did do hyperbaric for three months straight and I improved by 70%. But then I would feel my inflammation creeping back and I would get like chronic tonsillitis and I still had the chronic UTIs. And so I'm like, okay, let me try another anti-inflammatory oil. I went to Mexico for three weeks and it's done every single day. And it decreased my water load significantly. But guess what? That faucet was still on. So I was feeling good for a few months, good few months, right? I'm like, okay, hey, maybe 80 % is all I'm going to get.

25:53But then the 80 % goes down to 75 % and then 70. And then I get sick with the flu and now I'm back to 50%. So how do we turn off this water? So this is how you turn it off. Before I got sick, I was living in my house just fine. And then I got COVID and Epstein-Barr and now I was mold sensitive. My body could no longer detox it. And so mold didn't make me sick originally, but it's now a trigger. Okay. All right. So when it comes to SERS, we need to find the triggers, the faucets that are creating that miscommunication between the innate and the adaptive immune systems. And we want to decrease their loads significantly.

26:32Okay. So what are your faucets? You need to identify them. Is it currently mold? Do you have dormant viruses that keep coming out to play and flaring you? Do you have Lyme? Do you have chronic stress? Do you have actinomycetes bacteria that's growing in your bathrooms or your rooms. And this is kind of like a, not a super gray area, but we do need to talk about it because it's not identified enough and people should identify it. The answers, do you have any root canals or cavitations or rest implants? See, and I'm going to get really vulnerable here. I had breast implants. I had a root canal. I had cavitations and I was peacefully coexisting with them.

27:09As soon as I got COVID and Epstein-Barr, are bam, my body rejected them. And so I had to remove all of those things. I had to remediate my house. Things that I was peacefully coexisting with now were inflammatory faucets in my bathtub. And I had to turn every single one of them off.

27:26Juanique Roney:That makes sense why some people will say, oh, the mold is affecting me so badly. And others are like, whatever, that's so stupid. I live in a house with a ton of mold and I'm just fine. And I'm just fine. Right. Well, the people that are affected, they have that age that's turned on. The other person probably has the HLA gene, but just isn't turned on. But with SIRS, they keep saying SIRS is a mold illness. No, it's not just a mold illness. It's an immune system miscommunication. And mold is a trigger. Your breast implants can be a trigger. Your root canal can be a trigger. Your cavitations can get triggered out because the immune system is drunk.

28:00It's not acting intelligently and might have handled those things fine before, but now it's not because there was a flip that switch. And now you're super sensitive to everything under XLS. You're super sensitive to all of your foods. When I took a food sensitivity test, Carlin, after three months of being sick, and this was like a thousand dollar test to the whole office, I'm not going to say which, which, which office it was, but they all were talking about how bad my food sensitivity test was. They were like, this is the second worst food sensitivity test we've ever seen. You are reacting to everything except five things.

28:35Wheat, peanuts, alcohol, dairy, and soy, which are the things I don't eat. Oh, that's hilarious. So I'm like, I can't go on a diet of those days. That's so stupid. So it's not the food that was making me sick. It's not the mold that was making me sick. Even though it's a trigger, it's the immune system that is overwhelmed. And now we need to switch those faucets.

28:55Juanique Roney:It makes sense. So it makes sense why some people say I did the cavitation and I'm still feeling sick. Well, or they say I didn't feel any different. Right. Exactly. Well, that's exactly they remove the cavitation. But guess what? Yes, we switched off the faucet, but the tub and the bathroom are still flooded. And now we have to go and do damage control. Right. So make sure when you are trying to heal your SIRS, look for every stone that's unturned. Look like, what is annoying my body right now? Can we bring the load down? Do I need to remediate my house? So I did remediate my house twice. I removed my breast implants.

29:34I fixed my cavitations. I got my root canal out. Parasites is another one. I had to do a parasite cleanse. As soon as I did the parasite cleanse, I could feel every time I took something out of my body, I could tell my inflammation was coming down more and more and more. But then I could tell when I was in a moldy room, I'm flaring again, and it's taking me days to recover. So anyways, switch off the faucets. One faucet that's really important for people to understand, and this is in the Shoemaker Protocol, is there is a gram negative bacteria that lives in the sinus cavity. It's called Markons.

30:05And when people have 90 % of people that have SIRS actually have Markons that is running rampant. And what Markons does is it It creates neuroinflammation and it decreases something called MSH, which is a neurohormone or peptide. And MSH's job is to tell the immune system to be smarter. So if we have this bacteria in our nose, remember, it's one of the faucets, and it's telling our brain to be inflamed and to decrease MSH and decrease the intelligence of the immune system, do you think we're going to get any better? Wow. So we have to kill mark-ons. So you got to get the mold out. You have to kill Marcon's.

30:45You have to get whatever is in your body out that is aggravating it. Turn off all the faucets. And now we can go in and do damage control, right? Okay. So question for you. If you have Marcon's, do you automatically have SIRS? So a lot of people coexist happily with Marcon's. The same as a lot of people coexist with strep. So let me put the two together. People that have chronic strep infections, what do they do? they remove the signal that's telling you that there's an infection that isn't being handled well. So tonsils, right? You get chronic like tonsillitis or chronic strep. They take the tonsils out.

31:22So they take the tonsils out. Yes. And so they're like, see, the problem is solved. No, the infection is still there. Marcon's is creating that inflammation. So Marcon's is creating inflammation that is not allowing your body to keep all the other infections at bay, including itself. So if people have chronic ear infections, chronic strep, chronic tonsillitis, chronic nasal or sinus infections, I almost can guarantee they have Markons. And it needs to be dealt with. A smart immune system will keep the Markons at bay the same way it keeps E. coli at bay and strep at bay. We co-exist peacefully with all of these infections, but they're kept at bay by other bacteria by your immune system that's intelligent.

32:10Your immune system, when you have SARS, is no longer intelligent, and all of these things come out to play. And Mark Crons is a big, big one because of that MSH connection.

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33:34Juanique Roney:Now back to the show. Okay, so this is so interesting because we have mold in our house. I've been talking about mold on social media. Both my son and daughter just tested positive for Marcon's. So now I really need to get them tested for SIRS as well. I want to ask them like questions, like tell me all their symptoms. Like let's figure this out now. But if they're having other health concerns, energy issues, brain fog, hormonal imbalances, anxiety, depression, it could be serious. Interesting. Yeah, I'm going to do that. Okay, so first step is to recognize what the faucets are. Second step is to turn off those faucets.

34:11Juanique Roney:So meaning if there's mold in the house, we're getting rid of the mold. If there's chronic stress, we're trying to manage that. If there's viruses, we're turning off that faucet by taking care of the virus. But then you turn off the faucet, you still have a ton of water in the bathtub or water that has damaged the floor and cabinets from flooding. So what's next? So in the Shoemaker Protocol, what they start working on is healing the gut, balancing neuropeptides, balancing hormones, and then doing this VIP spray that helps to just bring the brain's neuropeptides back on board. What I have seen, however, because I talked to hundreds of thousands of people that have servers across the world is they are trying to balance a body that has so much inflammation and so much damage that their body doesn't even know which ways up.

35:01So this is where hybridizing protocols is really important in my opinion. I don't think I could have gotten as healthy as I did in the period of time that I did if I didn't utilize really powerful therapies like hyperbaric oxygen therapy, ozone therapy, and stem cells. I had so much inflammation and so much damage to the point where I'm like, I'm going to be a vegetable in a few years. I don't figure this out. So once you switched off the faucets and you have all this damage, remember our mitochondria are only working at 8 % capacity, which is crazy. So now you have all this damage that you have to fix.

35:37You have mitochondria that are barely turning back on. It's not like you switch off the faucets and the body's like, hey, I'm back. Yay. The body literally has been running an ultramarathon after an ultramarathon, zero fuel. And now you want it to heal itself, but zero fuel. So now we have to outsource therapies. This is where we use hyperbarics. We use ozone therapy. We use stem cells to just kind of try to bring everything back to life again. It's almost like borrowing an immune system. It's borrowing oxygen delivery. it's it's forcing the mitochondria it's you know like how they have those like machines when someone's heart stops and it's like and you try to that's literally what we're trying to do to every single cell in the body when we utilize these therapies we're like hey come back on board come back on board like let's start healing let's let's get you in a healing response versus this

36:28Juanique Roney:inflammatory chaos response you've turned off the faucets and then the best ways to help that damage that has happened is to do a hyperbaric chamber and to do eboo. When you say ozone, are you talking eboo? Eboo is my favorite. I think you get the biggest bang for your buck. It filters so much. Combining the two together, yes. You can do other ozone therapies like different ozone IVs where they take the blood out, they put a little bit of ozone gass in and they put it back in your body. But for me, eboo is just so powerful and I love it. some people's bodies might not be able to handle that though, because they've been so depleted for so long that might force their body to herx and react way too fast.

37:10Because remember, ozone gas is highly reactive. It's forcing the body to produce antioxidants to create a healthy immune response and mitigate damage. But if you don't have energy to do that, and now you're overstressing the body with that much ozone, it could be really detrimental. So So depending on how bad things are, and hopefully you talk with a doctor that can see, well, you're really, really in the negative. You're so in the red that we have to bring your body back up nice and gently. We can't do EBU yet. So let's do just ozone IVs and work you up to EBU. But yes, we want to utilize EBU.

37:51We want to utilize hyperbarics. stem cells is one of my favorite therapies to also just help bring intelligence back into the cells and healing and repairing and, and send out different signals to the cells to not be so angry and inflamed and, and chaotic. And so doing that while you are utilizing neuropeptides, balancing hormones again, and just bringing everything back on board. Does that make sense?

38:18Juanique Roney:It makes sense, But I'm sitting here thinking, OK, if I go get my son tested for SERS and it shows up as SERS, I know how expensive all of this is because we're remediating our home right now, which is so expensive. Yeah. Hyperbaric Chamber is not cheap. Right. Eboo is not cheap. I'm like adding it all up in my head. I'm like, this is thousands of dollars to help him get healthy. And none of it's covered by insurance. None. And it's so infuriating. I mean, insurance wouldn't even recognize that SERS is a thing right now anyways. So there's a few things that you can do. You can buy your own soft shell hyperbaric and do it at home twice a day.

38:54Is it as powerful as a hard shell chamber? Absolutely not. We can do six to eight times more damage control in a hard shell chamber than a soft shell chamber. Do you have lifetime access to that soft shell chamber? Absolutely. Is your recovery going to take a little slower? Sure. So you can get really good soft shell chambers for between$3 ,500 to$10 ,000. So I think there's really good chambers that are like in the$3 ,500 range. So you don't need to get the glitz and glam door and just get one that works and start doing hyperbaric at home. Yes, you can't do ozone IVs at home. So that might be a little bit of an investment.

39:30But if you can, again, schedule everything after you've turned off all the faucets, you will start to see the needle moving and all that inflammation and damage control in a few months. And so I think that they researched people with SIRS and the average person that had finally been diagnosed with SIRS had seen about 20 doctors and spent$40 ,000. Oh, I believe at that point. I believe it. Yeah.

39:57Juanique Roney:Okay. So where does someone find a doctor that knows about SIRS and will treat SIRS? That's a hard thing for people if a lot of doctors aren't even recognizing it still. Right. So I'm obviously biased because I'm the founder of ProvoHealth and ProvoHealth has basically turned into a SIRS clinic. Dr. Ryan Myers is phenomenal. He was treating SIRS patients the way I was treating myself. And I didn't realize that we have very similar values and we align a lot on the treatment of SIRS. And so even if you're not local, you can do a phone consult. Dr. Myers is incredible at hybridizing SERS protocols to fit the individual and can go at your pace and can really speak the SERS language.

40:42And so you want to make sure you go to a doctor that's highly recommended and knows what they're doing. Like they know how to read labs. They know what labs to order. They know how to move and shake different treatments at different times to fit the individual's need. So there's obviously many other SERS doctors out there. I don't really know them that well, but Dr. Meyers is kind of my go-to.

41:04Juanique Roney:So they find a doctor, they do the lab work, they turn off their faucets, they try to fix the damage. But trying to fix the damage and turning off those faucets could take years. It can take years. And so what I want to tell people is, because here's the thing too, it's, the thing about SIRS is you feel like your personality is hijacked and you want to get back to you super duper fast. So it feels so unfair that it could take years. If you're doing hyperbarics, if you're doing ozone, it could be some months. It could just be like six months versus two to three years. This is so hard for me to say just because I lived through it.

41:45I want people to trust the process. Keep going. Keep educating yourself more about SERS because that will help to reinforce the consistency in taking care of your body and doing the treatments. Here's a great analogy. Pretend we are at a pool and I tell you to just swim a hundred laps, right? Swim 50 miles in the pool, going back, forth, back, forth. After a few laps, you're like, why am I doing this? This is useless. You'll get out the pool because you're bored. It doesn't have any purpose. You move on with your life. But if we were stranded on an island and I'm like, if we swim a hundred miles this way, we would find land and food and shelter and safety, we would swim it.

42:25We would do the hard thing because we know that there is reprieve on the other side. So when you're in the thick of it, what I want you to do is surround yourself with people who have done it already. Listen to their stories because negativity around your healing journey really, really can damage you. Our nervous systems and our cortisol responses are so bad as it is that when you come across a negative story, it can pretend that for days. So protect your energy, protect your mental ability around this, and keep researching, keep advocating for yourself, and know that your body is a self-healing, self-regulating organism.

43:08It's designed to heal. It doesn't want to be in this state. It is signaling to you that there's something wrong and it still needs support. So did you miss a faucet or are we just still getting rid of inflammation? You know? And so what I teach people, I have a, I have an academy where I coach people through becoming self-healing advocates. And what I teach them, they think I'm teaching them protocols and this and the order of healing, but what I, the most important thing I'm teaching them is body intuition and body trust. Yes, it might take you years to get on the other side, but if you can learn the skill of body trust and intuition, you'll know that you're still moving ahead.

43:51So keep going. It's worth it. It's worth the work. You're going to learn so much. I want to share my best friend, Gina, Gina, Gina Warfel. When I was so sick, when I was at my sickest point, I was, I would, I felt like I was going crazy. And I called her. I'm like, I need support. I just need you to come here. And she flew in and we were on this hike. And even on the hike, I was, I was I I couldn't see properly my whole body was shaking my brainstem was like on fire I was surprised I could talk and hold a conversation and she said to me Jeanique I can't wait for you to meet who you are on the other side of this oh I love because who she is is gonna be really freaking awesome oh I love that and I can promise you I am so glad I went through what I did it was like the refiner's fire it was like the phoenix through the ashes who I am on the other side of this is a much wiser, more patient, more like so much more caring for myself.

44:52So, so my, my boundaries are so important now, whereas before anyone could just walk all over me. I'm like, yeah, sure. I'm a yes person. I've learned so much. I have learned so much about myself. I've learned so much about trusting my body, um, about there's, there's so many lessons in the journey.

45:10Juanique Roney:Well, and I love that you're trying to help others though, from everything that you've learned. I mean, you're talking about SIRS every single day on social media. And so I know you're helping so many people and Provo Health is helping people and there's other doctors out there helping as well. I love that you're doing that. I do have a question though, for you. Can SIRS only happen to adults or is this something that like teenagers, kids, elderly people, like, is it something that Well, it could happen at any age. Yes. So when I hear of kids having chronic ear infections or chronic tonsillitis or sinus infections, any kind of chronic something or asthma, my brain immediately goes to SERS.

45:53I'm like, oh, that's a SERS profile. And we saw this a lot through COVID where kids started experiencing anxiety and depression like that. It was almost like overnight. That's a SERS thing. so if your child is going through big emotions they're experiencing anxiety depression we can we can do a brain map and just see the the brain inflammation or like oh that looks like a sirs brain you know that looks like a mold brain that looks like a food allergy brain you know and so um you don't even have to do blood work well we want to do blood work to confirm but what i'm saying is like the blood work would say sirs but we can also see it on like a q e g it's like yep that brain is really on fire.

46:34This is why they are going through all the things because that source gene is turned on. So in kids, we can see like pandas, we can see autistic traits, ADHD, but it's little as like maybe a little one-year-old or two-year-old. So that would be more of like the colic. So we could see if a child is very colicky, we could, and they have like highs or skin issues or lots of food allergies, like moms that are constantly changing out their diet to try and soothe the baby's gut. That could be a profile for SARS. Interesting. So mom could have been pregnant and in a really moldy home. And now baby is reacting.

47:14The immune system is finicky. Interesting.

47:18Juanique Roney:This just seems overwhelming though, because moms listening are like, oh great, that was my baby. Or for me, as I'm listening, I'm like, oh my gosh, I got to go get Andrew tested for SIRS. I think he has it. So it is very overwhelming. To me, I think maybe because I know so much now, to me, SIRS isn't overwhelming because there's a way to fix it. There's so much hope. There's so many tools. To me, it's a little like Lyme. Lyme just seems like it's either hit or miss or you're just really unlucky. And honestly, if you're not healing from Lyme, you probably have SIRS. To me, SIRS, there's a map.

47:53There's things you can do. There's ways to get out of it. It just takes a lot of work. And like you since like, oh, it's the cavitations or maybe it's the X plan. It's the mold remediation. It's like, yeah, it is all those things. It kind of sucks, but we have answers.

48:07Juanique Roney:Yeah. We just have to do things. Do the work. Let your health is worth it. It is. You know, I have probably spent myself over$150 ,000 treeing, doing all the therapies. Right. But some people will say I don't have that. right uh i know it's it's so it's so hard but remember i did things out of order yeah if we do things in order you're without mold remediation because mold remediation can be between 10 and 100 000 so just treatment alone if you're doing things in the right order we're looking at about 15 to 20 000 if you're doing it in the right order so less daunting and this is over years it's not like oh it's 20 000 in three months no this is like 20 000 over two to three years and I wanted I want to put out a realistic expectation there and that's if you're doing the hyperbarics and the ozone and all of that stuff there are some people that can heal from service by just doing binders and supplements and letting their body's own healing mechanism kick in it's I was gonna say there are other things that the body could do like I'm just thinking like some glutathione and chlorophyll and some things just to help your body naturally detox better.

49:19Juanique Roney:All of those things. Everything can help. Yes. Proper supplementation, red light therapy, people's food, people's nutrition, we're exercising, all of those things. They'll tie apart, but we've just got to go a little bit extra with SIRS. One thing I do want to mention about food though, and SIRS, so going on an anti-inflammatory diet, it will help decrease the white noise with your SIRS symptoms, but it won't fix the SIRS. So I just want people with SERS to understand that like going on an elimination diet will not fix you and the SERS aspect, but it will help with all the other background noise.

49:54So still do it. But if you're feeling overwhelmed and you're like, ah, I am cutting out food and it's not really doing anything. And it's stressing me out more than maybe take a break. Like, like, don't, don't feel like you

50:05Juanique Roney:have to eat like a supermodel. Do the things that are going to move the needle the most. Yes. Thank you so much for being here, Janique, and just explaining SERS. I learned a lot. It's not a topic I've really studied very much. I've studied mold a lot, but not SERS. And you did a great job explaining just what it is and how the immune system is reacting and things that will help. So thank you for taking time to do that today, because I know this is going to help many people out there. So thank you so much. I always end my podcast now with asking five fire rapid questions. So are you okay answering these?

50:40Juanique Roney:Okay. Number one, what emerging health topic are you most excited about right now? I think sirs. Yeah, you've tied that all the time. I just want people to understand it. Yeah. Number two, what's a piece of advice you give your younger self? Oh, I mean, this is so off topic, but like to to just enjoy life. It's not about achievement. It's just it's all about the journey and just having fun. Oh, I love that. OK, number three, what's the one health practice you'll never compromise on no matter how busy life gets? These are hard. Oh, my God. So many good answers. Honestly, the one health practice is nervous system regulation.

51:20Like just just maintaining your peace is so important. for overall health and wellness.

51:26Juanique Roney:And you like to do that with breath work, meditation? What's your favorite? For me, it's just like walking outside. It's, it's breathing. It's all of it. It's camping. It's hiking. It's being in nature, you know? I love it. Yeah. Okay. Number four, what's your favorite just ingredients product and why? Oh my God. All of them. Methyl balance is probably one of my favorites. And I, it works so fast. We deal with such sensitive people and almost everyone can handle it. It's such a good product when everyone's reacting to everything else. So, Oh, good. Yeah. And number five, you've answered this before, but what is the best ingredient you've found to life?

52:06Juanique Roney:Oh, I wonder if my answers change. I have to go back to, I know I'd have to go listen to what they are. To have fun. I think to enjoy the journey, to not take everything so seriously. I love that because life can get so hard and a health issue like this can really be hard. And so just to enjoy the journey. I love that. I think when you lose your health and you lose your personality and what really comes to light is what's truly important. And so you get to like, you have to let go all the things that don't matter. And what truly matters at the core is just enjoying life and spending up those people you love.

52:41And I love that. I'm family.

52:42Juanique Roney:well thank you again so much for being here yeah thank you for being here and being part of this community don't forget to subscribe to the just ingredients podcast we've got so much more to share with you and if you're not already come join us daily on all social media platforms at just.ingredients until next time keep choosing what nourishes you

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