Could Your Dental Work Be Making You Sick? w/ Dr. Michelle Jorgensen

15 Jun 2026 · 59 min · 18 chapters

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In short

How oral health issues—especially mercury dental fillings, root canals, and wisdom tooth removal—may affect whole-body health, including gut symptoms, neuro symptoms, inflammation, and hormone/endocrine function. Also covers safer removal protocols and alternatives.

Guest

Dr. Michelle Jorgensen, a dentist from a family of dentists. She became ill about 10 years into practice with severe gut pain, memory problems, and numbness/pins-and-needles in her hands/arms, losing dexterity. After practice sale plans, she was tested for mercury via a provocation test and found “off the charts” mercury levels.

Key claims

Silver fillings release mercury 24/7; removal is highest-risk and should use “smart removal” precautions (vacuum, full coverage). Root canals leave dead tissue in microscopic canals, can’t be fully cleaned, and may cause chronic low-grade infection/inflammation linked (she cites research) to conditions like Alzheimer’s, cancers, heart disease, and more. Wisdom teeth removal can create “cavitations”/dead zones if ligaments aren’t removed and if prolonged epinephrine-containing anesthesia reduces blood flow.

Notable examples

A patient’s failed root canal found only on cone-beam CT (quarter-size jawbone hole) despite no pain; a woman bedbound for years improved after wisdom teeth cleaning and one infected root canal removal. She recommends zirconia implants over titanium, citing heat/corrosion and frequency effects.

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Chapters

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Dr. Jorgensen's Health Journey

0:45 to 3:50

Dr. Jorgensen shares her personal health struggles and discovery of mercury poisoning.

“And I don't know if a lot of people know that.”

The Impact of Mercury on Health

3:50 to 6:50

Discussion on the effects of mercury poisoning and its connection to various health issues.

“Actually, you have to do, it's called a provocation test where you have to pull it out of the organs because it goes and hides.”

Safe Removal of Mercury Fillings

6:50 to 9:50

Dr. Jorgensen explains the importance of safely removing mercury fillings and detox protocols.

“It's going to completely eliminate tooth decay.”

Controversy Surrounding Root Canals

9:50 to 12:20

An exploration of root canals, their benefits, and potential health risks.

“It's called the smart removal technique.”

Understanding Root Canal Procedures

12:20 to 14:00

Details on what a root canal involves and the anatomical challenges it presents.

“Now Jeff has been to you and yeah, I love that you do that.”

The Implications of Root Canals

14:00 to 21:47

Explore how root canals can affect overall health and lead to chronic infections.

“Like you get to keep chewing with a tooth, smiling with a tooth if it's a visible one.”

Alternatives to Root Canals and Implants

21:47 to 28:00

Learn about holistic approaches to dental issues and the use of ozone therapy.

“So they come to us for a second opinion, and we say, let's give this a try.”

Understanding Titanium and Health Implications

28:00 to 34:20

Learn about how titanium used in dental work may affect health and its overload in the body.

“It conducts heat just like any other metal does.”

Understanding Titanium and Health Implications

35:28 to 35:38

Learn about how titanium used in dental work may affect health and its overload in the body.

“Okay, so on similar terms then, taking wisdom teeth out, you take those teeth out, there's open cavitations for infections to occur.”

Wisdom Teeth Removal and Its Consequences

35:38 to 42:00

Explore the implications of wisdom teeth removal and the importance of proper healing.

“My two older boys had the standard wisdom teeth removal.”
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The Impact of Nutrition on Dental Health

42:00 to 45:15

Learn how malnutrition affects jaw growth and dental health.

“So I started really deeply studying this.”

Essential Nutrients for Oral Development

45:15 to 46:36

Discover the crucial vitamins and minerals needed for proper dental development.

“You know, let's get the actual nutrition in the foods that we're feeding our children and ourselves.”

Interceptive Orthodontics and Preventative Care

46:36 to 48:27

Explore the concept of interceptive orthodontics in pediatric dental care.

“do you think we'll see a generation of people that won't need their wisdom teeth out?”

Hydroxyapatite: The Controversial Mineral

48:27 to 53:52

Understand the debates surrounding hydroxyapatite in dental care.

“But if we have to now, if there simply is no room, it's going to create all sorts of issues now, there are some steps.”

Final Thoughts and Quick Questions

53:52 to 55:08

Listen to final insights on nutrition and health practices from Dr. Jorgensen.

“I'm glad you stated all the research and now people on TikTok that are fighting over it can just turn to you.”

Morning Rituals: The Power of Lemon Water

56:03 to 56:40

Learn about the benefits of starting your day with lemon water and its effects.

“I start my morning with lemon water which might be controversial as a dentist.”

Favorite Ingredients and Life Lessons

56:41 to 57:29

Discover Dr. Jorgensen's favorite ingredient and her perspective on abundance.

“Okay, number four, what's your favorite just ingredients product and why?”

Community and Gratitude

57:30 to 58:09

Hear about the importance of community and sharing knowledge in health.

“And everybody asked me, like, what do you think about these protein companies that are copying you and these?”
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Transcript

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0:00Welcome to the Just Ingredients podcast. I'm Cara Lynn, and here we dive deep into the journey of healing and wellness. If you're ready to learn, feel empowered, and take charge of your health, you're in the right place. Welcome back to the show, everyone. Today, I'm really excited for the show because it is a guest that you guys love and have loved listening to. And so she is back to teach us more about health in the mouth. And so welcome to the show, Dr. Michelle Jorgensen. Thank you. I'm so excited to be here again. Well, I have so many questions for you. There's so many trendy topics out on social media right now, and I want to touch upon all of them.

0:41But I love your personal story of how you healed and your sickness and like what it took and what you went through. And I don't know if a lot of people know that. So will you start by just telling them why you even got involved in teaching others about health? Yeah. You know, it certainly wasn't anything that I intended to do. My father's a dentist, three younger brothers that are in dentistry. So this is just kind of our life. And I thought I would continue doing exactly what he's doing. He just retired. He just told me this week he's retiring. He's going to be 76. Wow. So he's kept working forever and loved dentistry, loved everything about it, the patient care, perfecting his craft.

1:19And that's how I really started also started just really digging into the dentistry and becoming the best dentist I could. But about 10 years and I started to get really sick, didn't know what it was. And, you know, like you and all of those that are struggling with health issues, you just start to reach out to anyone and everyone. Right. Start to go to doctors, start doing tests and x-rays and all of the above. And I was not getting any answers. Typically, they would hand me a pill and say, I think this might help. But it didn't. and my symptoms were gut problems, which a lot of people seem like that's the starting point, this gut issue.

1:54But I got to the point that I couldn't even drink water without pain. So this was pretty significant. And no pills were helping. They scoped, I mean, all of the above. Nothing was really answering the question of what was happening. And my memory was really just falling apart. And I've always had a good memory, but I couldn't complete sentences. I couldn't remember patients' names from room to room. And this was so unlike me. But the big one was numbness. I just had painful pins and needles, numbness all the way down my hands, my arms. I couldn't sleep at night. I sit on the edge of my bed, just shaking my hands.

2:24I couldn't blow dry my hair or brush my teeth. And I started losing the dexterity in my hands to hold my instruments. Oh, goodness. So this was really a defining point because this was our entire livelihood. My husband worked for the business and this was everything for us. Four young kids at home. We still had debt from school and the business, and I didn't know what I was going to do. So I had received no answers, and I put the practice for sale. Oh, I didn't realize that part. Yep, I put the practice for sale, and we were just trying to find what could I do with this disability, basically, at this point.

3:00Yeah. And I started looking into nutrition because I learned a lot, you know, trying to fix my gut. We'd fixed a lot at home, and I thought, well, perhaps I could teach nutrition in a dental practice, reached out to a dentist that was doing that. And he said, wait a minute, your symptoms sound so much like mine. Have you ever looked into mercury poisoning as a possibility? And that was the first time anyone had ever said those words to me. Interesting. And I said, well, no, I don't have any fillings. I knew that silver fillings had mercury in them. We were taught that in dental school. But I said, no, I don't have any fillings.

3:32And, you know, as we've been taught, they're completely safe in fillings. And he said, it's not the fillings you have. It's the fillings you've been drilling out for the last decade. And isn't it worth getting tested? Interesting. Well, I hadn't been tested for that. So I said, well, yeah, I guess it's worth getting tested. So I got tested for mercury and mercury is a hard one to test for. Actually, you have to do, it's called a provocation test where you have to pull it out of the organs because it goes and hides. It hides in your brain. It hides in your kidneys. So you can't just take a blood test or hair test and hair analysis and really determine how much mercury is in your system.

4:06So I had to do the special test, tested it, mercury levels off the charts. Wow. So I was shocked. I was relieved to find the answer, but I was also a little angry. Oh, I'm sure. You know, why had no one told me that this could be a problem? And as I've continued to learn, I realized a lot of the other symptoms, I wasn't even putting a finger on like infertility. I'd had infertility since my early 20s. I've never been able to have a baby naturally my entire life. These things are all also related to mercury. So mercury is a neurotoxin. It affects hormone levels because hormones are controlled through the brain.

4:43That's your nervous system. It controls your hormone levels. It constrains your brain function. It affects your gut function, which is also a brain connection. It affects all the neurology. So this is my hands, my numbness, all of those things. mercury affects all of those things. So I finally, you know, figured this out. The doctor said, there's no way we can get it out of you if you keep putting it in at the same rate. So you either need to stop your job or you need to figure out a way to do it differently. So I didn't even know if there was a way to do it differently. I started researching and I found an organization that already had protocol created to remove these fillings in a safe way.

5:22So I bought the equipment. I started doing it this way and you've been there you've done this it's very different than a regular filling yes it is so I thought that people would just go running screaming away thinking this is the crazy lady right yeah so I was very careful I would explain very carefully I was doing this for my own health and all of a sudden people would say things like well isn't this probably better for me too. Yes. But I really wasn't even tuned into that at the beginning. Oh, interesting. Because I was just so focused on, I think that people are going to think I'm really weird and I've gone off the deep end and I don't know how I'm going to keep, you know, maintain my practice.

6:02I'm going to have to try to slip this little thing in here. And people started saying, well, this is better for me too. And my doctor has been looking for someone that can do this. And I've heard about issues with mercury and that was really my education. And then they started asking me other questions like, well, what do you really know about root canals? I was still doing root canals at the time. What do you know about fluoride? Exactly what I've been trained in dental school, that it's the best thing ever. Like this was all I knew. And inside of, often inside of professions, we don't stay up to date on research.

6:34Today, it's a little easier because we're seeing it across social media and things, but the old days, like I couldn't just pop on something and find it. Like can't pop on the internet. We didn't have the internet. No. And And so there wasn't a way to stay up on anything. So what we knew was what we were trained in school, which was all of these things are great. Mercury filling is completely safe. Root canals are great. They're the way that we save teeth. Fluoride is the panacea. It's going to completely eliminate tooth decay. I mean, this is what I was trained on. Right. So I started questioning and saying, well, if this thing could literally almost take my career and my health and leave me permanently disabled, what else in dentistry could affect health?

7:14and that led me down a pathway I never expected to go on. Well, and I love everything that you teach about health and how health is related to the mouth and oral care and things like that. So let's talk about these silver fillings because there are so many people with silver fillings. Like that's just the standard care. I know I put them in my kid's mouth because I wasn't told anything different. So do you recommend that everybody with silver fillings get them out? So this is a really great question. First of all, I recommend that no one ever get them in. And it's interesting, the European Union actually just banned them.

7:48As of July 1st, they will no longer allow any placing, any manufacturing, anything of these fillings in Europe entirely. Good for them. Exactly. So that always makes me wonder, why are we so far behind? And I have my opinions on that one. In everything, though. In everything, exactly. So for sure, never put them in. And the sad part is that they actually are an easier filling to use in dentistry, and they're easier in a child because kids are hard to work on. Tongues are moving around. There's saliva bubbling up everywhere. These fillings are actually really easy to place when it's wet. So it's easier on a child.

8:25So these are often placed in children. Yeah, they still are today. Absolutely, every single day in practices across the country. So that is number one is no one should ever have a silver filling placed in their mouth. so the question about removal well it used to be that if i told you those mercury fillings could affect your health i would lose my license this is literally what i was taught in school yes now i that's not true anymore i can now say things and safely tell them to you because research has backed this those fillings do release do release mercury 24 7 and the fillings are 50 mercury people don't realize that 50 mercury mixed with silver and copper and a few other metals but 50 mercury it's released 24-7.

9:07So we worry about mercury in things like fish and vaccines, but no one realizes that the actual, the largest source of mercury in the environment is dental fillings. Interesting. Yep. So that mercury is released 24-7. We already know it's a neurotoxin that's established. What we need to understand though, is that during removal, that's when you're going to get the most mercury because it's all going to be released at the same time. A little is released daily as you chew and swallow and different things, but it's all going to be released during a removal appointment. So if you're going to get it removed, which I recommend people do, you have to do it safely, period.

9:44It's better to not have them removed than to do it unsafely. So you have to go to somebody that has all of these protocols in place. It's called the smart removal technique. You're going to notice it's different. You're going to have a big vacuum by your chin. I mean, you went through all this big vacuum by your chin. You're going to be covered. your face is covered, your body's covered, all of this so that that mercury can't actually get somewhere else. Because once it's out of your mouth, you don't want to swallow it, breathe it in, have it absorbed through your skin. You're just going to put it right back in again.

10:13So all of those precautions need to be followed along with a basic detox protocol at that removal appointment as well. So you can find a dentist that will do it the right way, a couple of different places. My website, we actually have a directory now of dentists that you can find one near you that have been vetted by me. So that's at livingwellwithdrmichelle.com. Go on there. It's free. There's also a couple of websites. I-A-O-M-T is what it's called and I-A-B-D-M. So both of those have directories of dentists also. Okay. Go find a dentist there. Or if you're calling your dentist, say, do you follow smart removal practices?

10:50Okay. Good to know. Yep. So don't get them removed unless you're going to do it somewhere safely. Okay. And in the detox protocol, what do you suggest? So I suggest working with a functional medicine practitioner first to make sure your detox pathway. So the mercury from fillings is actually excreted through urine the most. So your kidney needs to be dumping things readily. Your liver needs to be working to be able to filter things out. And then your kidney needs to be working to dump. So if you feel like everything's working like it should, then what we do at the time of removal is we do a binder.

11:24So often it's charcoal. chlorella is another great one and then we use something called glutathione which is you know about as a natural as a is the master antioxidant basically when mercury hits the system we don't want the reaction of mercury with the body so we use glutathione to counteract any negative reaction that your body's going to have no matter how safe the removal is you're going to get a little bit in so we want something to grab it that's the binder and we have the antioxidant to counteract anything that it's done in the body. So those are the two things that we do at the time of removal and for about 30 days post.

12:00Love it. And that's actually how I found you. It was because I was asking all around for a safe way to get my mercury fillings out because I got mine in the eighties and that's the only thing that they did in the eighties. So once I heard about, you know, the harm of them, I was like, Oh my gosh, I've got to get these out, but I've got to find someone that does it right. So I'd love that, that you guys do that. Now Jeff has been to you and yeah, I love that you do that. Okay, the next thing that I want to talk to you about are root canals, because they are a very trendy topic right now. And I don't know if it just gives people good engagement on TikTok or what, but people are like, you shouldn't ever do root canals.

12:36And then people are like, well, you have to do root canals. And so I see this controversy going back and forth. So tell us about root canals, if we should do them, what their issue is. I want to hear from a dentist that knows. Yes. And like I said, I was doing root canals when I started down this journey. And so I really had to dig into the reasons pro and con and was it worth it? So let's really talk about what a root canal is first. Root canals, the idea of them is great. We get to save a tooth, right? So if cavity has gotten quite deep, it's gotten near the nerve, it's either affected the nerve.

13:12So you have a, man, that was so cold or I was a little achy when I eat sugar. You know, that's affected the nerve or infected the nerve is it's swollen, it's pussy. You can't touch it at all. The tooth is actually dead and it's already infected. So a root canal, what happens is the nerve portion of the tooth, the nerve and the blood vessels, the dentist gets to that portion, removes the nerve and the blood vessels inside of the tooth, disinfects the tooth. Clorox or bleach is actually what's still used today. So that's the disinfectant of choice. It's put down in the root canal system to kill any bacteria that might be inside of there.

13:50and then that area where the nerve and the blood vessels used to be is filled up with a rubbery material called gutta percha. It's from a tree in Malaysia. So it's filled up with this rubbery stuff. The idea is awesome. Like you get to keep chewing with a tooth, smiling with a tooth if it's a visible one. All of these things are great. The problem is that's not all that goes on inside of a tooth. So when you put something cold on your tooth, you can feel it, right? All the way out here. How does that work? Well, there's little tubes inside of the tooth, literally a mile inside of every single tooth that has little nerve extensions going through those tubes.

14:25So the nerve and the blood vessels inside of the tooth have the main, they live in the main root canal, but then there's these little tiny tubes that have extensions of that nerve and blood vessel tissue. Okay. So when the root canal is done, it's impossible to clean all of those little tiny microscopic tubes. So dead tissue is always left behind. Interesting. And now you've entombed the tooth. You've taken the blood supply away. So there's no way for your body's immune system to send immune cells here and deal with this. Oh, because there's no blood flow. Makes sense. So this is really the thing that a lot of people are talking about.

15:05It's the only thing that we leave dead in the body. You know, I often joke and say, it's not really a joke, but it gets you thinking, let's say you had a gallbladder attack and the doctor says you need your gallbladder out. First of all, I always say, do I really need? But you need your gallbladder out. They take it out. They remove the inside. They disinfect it with bleach. They fill it up with rubbery stuff and they put it back in you. Yeah, it does not happen. Why? Because anything dead, bacteria are going to find. Right. No matter what. This is why if you have diabetes and you have gangrene on a toe, they're taking the toe off.

15:39They're taking the leg, you know, because dead tissue cannot heal itself because there's no blood flow to the dead tissue. A root canal tooth is dead. Makes sense. There's no blood flow to the tooth anymore. It can no longer heal itself or keep itself well. So what's the option then for people? Great question. So let's talk through this a little bit further. So the problem is that bacteria find that dead tissue and they start to congregate around the tooth. Your immune system can't get to the dead tissue to take care of it. It can't take care of this completely, but your immune system is activated.

16:11It does want to come and fix this chronic low-grade infection. I see where this is going. Yep. It can't ever completely take care of it, but it is stimulated by it. And so it leads to a lot of inflammation in the body. When you have inflammation, I mean, you know, I've always been taught and teach people that inflammation is the start of aging and all disease. So when you have inflammation, chronic low grade never goes away, it is going to hamper or make your body less able to take care of itself, to keep itself well. It just is. So now other things come along and it can't deal with it as well anymore.

16:51So we see, in fact, I just, I told you when I got here, I went and looked at all the recent research within the last year and a half. I'm just going to go kind of through the body and tell you everything that this kind of infection research now shows to affect. Okay. So this I'm talking about root canal infection, but also there's a couple of other sources in the body. Gum disease, which root canal infection is gum disease. Makes sense. Because the infection is around the ends of the root. It's around the bone and the gum that holds the tooth in. That makes sense? Yep. So anything that you see research saying, you know, this impacts this disease, that also applies for root canals because that is the infection around a root canal.

17:34Okay. Brain, Alzheimer's and dementia, hugely related to gum disease. I've heard that. Yep. Mouth infections. So all sorts of oral cancer things related to root canal infections. Esophageal cancer, also related to gum disease, root canal infection. As we move down, breast cancer, huge. I have actually yet to find a patient that has or had cancer that I have not found an infection in their mouth. You had told me that about root canals and breast cancer years ago, and it's been fascinating because people that I run into that have had breast cancer, I will ask them if they've had a root canal, and almost everybody says yes.

18:13Yes, it's so amazing, and they're often right here. There's four breaker boxes in the body. You know how if something blows a circuit in your house, everything kind of shuts off on that same circuit? The same thing goes in the body. And there's four places that we can access and return on those circuits. One is the feet. You talk about foot zoning a lot. I know. I love it. This is a breaker box. The hands are another breaker box. A lot of acupressure points here. The ears are the third and the teeth are the fourth. Interesting. So if you have a short here in the mouth, it will short everything else on the circuit.

18:45So these teeth right here are connected to the breast circuit. Interesting. Yep. We'll often find a root canal even on the same side as the cancer. So breast cancer, lung cancer, all sorts of GI issues, heart disease of every variety, cholesterol, high blood pressure, strokes, heart failure, all related to this kind of infection and colon cancer. Interesting. All from root canals and gum disease. All from root canals and gum disease. And this is not just me saying, yeah, I think it probably affects this. This is heavily researched, peer-reviewed, in journals that you'll recognize, research that's happened in the last year and a half.

19:27Which is fascinating, and I'm so glad to hear that, because for years and years we treated the body as separate from the mouth and teeth. Yes. So now finally, hopefully dentists will learn that we're all one being. Exactly right. So let's go back to your question now about what do we do instead. So we need to talk about two things. First of all, what do we do instead of a root canal if we've never had one? And what do we do if we have one? Oh, true. Because I do have one from about 25 years ago. So let's talk about this. These are the two questions. And the first thing you said, you made a comment that a lot of people say, well, we have to have root canals.

20:02Well, first of all, that's completely false. How many people live without teeth in the world today? Plenty. So you don't have to have a root canal. It's nice, absolutely, because you get to keep the tooth. But at what risk? That's always the question I ask, at what risk? And do we have an alternative? We do. So the first thing is, what do we do instead? Well, remember how I talked about how that bacteria can affect or infect the tooth. If it's affected, the tooth is still alive. So you drink something cold and, oh man, that is so cold. So painful. Or you eat something sweet and you can still feel it.

20:37That's great news because that means the tooth is still alive. If the tooth is still alive, what we do, we remove the cavity down to the deepest layer, but don't uncover the nerve. That is the key. We want to keep that nerve covered and not exposed. We don't uncover the nerve. We use ozone. And people are hearing more about ozone in the world today. Ozone is just a natural antimicrobial, and it's just simply three molecules of oxygen that have been put together. They don't like being in threes. So that single guy likes to go find something to bind to. And it binds to all bacteria, all viruses, all fungus, all parasites, everything.

21:17Fascinating. It's so amazing. I just did an entire training on ozone. And so what we do is cavities is a cavity is simply a bacterial infection in the tooth. It's bugs that have crawled deeper into the tooth. Okay. So we kill them. We use ozone right on the deepest layer of those bacteria and we fill over top of it. Okay. We call this root canal prevention, and we have about a 92 % success rate of keeping teeth alive when people have been told you need a root canal. Fascinating. So they come to us for a second opinion, and we say, let's give this a try. 92 % chance that it's going to be successful.

21:52It's going to stay alive. Now, this is huge. You need to ask your dentist, can you keep my tooth alive? Do you have ozone? Can you do this? I want to try. And that is the very best case scenario of all, is let's just keep the tooth alive. Second case scenario is the tooth is already infected. The cavity has already progressed to the nerve. It's swollen. It wakes you up at night. The pain is just excruciating. Any of those symptoms, the tooth is already dead. It's already infected. So at that point, there is no way to revive a tooth. So it's either a root canal, remove the nerve and do what we talked about, or remove the tooth.

22:35And then put an implant in. And then put an implant in. So now we're in the same place of if I've already had a root canal, right? So if you've already had a root canal, the biggest issue is the warning system is gone on that root canal. The nerve is gone. So the pain isn't there. You don't know that this infection is building. And I always remember this patient. She came in, she was a big tennis player and she had this old root canal and she just kind of tapped her cheek. She said, you know, I don't know. This doesn't hurt at all, but it's just never felt right to me. And at the time I had just gotten this new, what's called cone beam CT machine, but I wasn't using it routinely.

23:13So I took a regular dental x-ray, the kind that's, you know, the square thing they put in the mouth. You know, everybody knows those kinds of x-rays when they put them in. Everybody knows those kinds of x-rays. I took that kind of x-ray. That's a two dimensional x-ray. I can only see in two dimensions. It's very limited in actually what I can see. I can look for a cavity. I can look for if there's some bone loss. if an infection is huge, I can see it, but I cannot, I cannot see just small little things. Took the regular x-ray. I said, your root canal looks fine, but I had just gotten my new cone beam machine.

23:43So I said, let's go take a scan. Went and took a scan and my jaw dropped. There was literally a quarter size hole that had been eaten away in her jawbone above the end of that root canal tooth. Oh, wow. I couldn't see it. Wow. So this is not the dentists are ignoring this or pulling the rug over it or anything else. They just can't see it. They can't see it. They don't have the equipment. Correct. We can't see it. So the cone beam CT machine is a three-dimensional scan. I'm able to turn things upside down, inside out. I can cut away a slice at a time and see exactly what's going on. So as soon as I started taking cone beam CT scans, and everybody needs to get one if you've had a root canal, as soon as I started taking the scans, I started seeing failed root canals everywhere that people had no symptoms for.

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24:31Like they would have a sinus infection that they'd had two and three sinus surgeries for. And the ENT couldn't figure out why does it keep getting infected? I keep cleaning it out. Well, they have an upper molar that has a root canal on it that's failed. The infection has eaten through the floor of the sinus. And every time the ENT cleans it out, the root canal just builds up pressure again and fills the whole sinus with infection again. Interesting. Over and over and over again. I know someone in that situation. Yep, over and over and over again. and I see this so many times I can't even count anymore, where I see failed root canals.

25:04People have symptoms, but they don't tie it with their tooth. They say, oh, I have this sinus infection. Oh, I have this headache. Oh, I have high cholesterol, and nobody can figure out why it's so high. My blood pressure keeps going up, and I'm doing everything right. Like all of these symptoms. I have autoimmune disease, and we've done everything, and all of the things that usually work isn't working anymore. Like these are the symptoms people come and talk to me about. It's not my tooth hurts. Yeah. So if anybody has symptoms that just aren't resolving with the care they're doing, do you have a root canal in your mouth?

25:41Most likely it's infected and it's leading to your body not being able to care for itself and heal the way it should, even with all the really great things you're doing. So, yes, the answer is we remove the tooth. And, you know, in dental school, our goal was to save a tooth at any cost. Well, now I say, you know what? I'm going to save your health at any cost, even if it means removing a tooth, because I can replace your teeth. So what we do is remove the tooth. It's important we do it the right way. We actually use ozone then, too, because that infection, remember, it's not just in the tooth.

26:13It's in the jawbone. It's in the gums. It's in the ligaments. It's in everything around that tooth. So we use ozone there. then we use something called PRF which is stem cells and growth factors derived from you taken from your blood at the time of surgery we put back in and this gives us scaffolding for the body to actually grow bone to that then provides the the foundation place a dental implant so a lot of people will say things when I talk about implants they'll say how about this tooth in a day concept like can you do it well I like to explain a little bit about that when I take a tooth out, the hole's fairly substantial.

26:49Like think about the size of your tooth. A dental implant is smaller and a dental implant is the root of the tooth and it's like a screw. So if you have a piece of wood that has a giant hole in it, are you going to be able to put a screw in there and have it stay? Okay. Makes sense. No, it can't. You have to have the wood filled in to be able to have a screw be solid. So the bone needs to fill in that hole to be able to then place the dental implant. The next question people ask is what kind of a dental implant should I use, right? Right. So the debate is titanium, which is standard of care, has been around for 50 years in dentistry versus zirconia, which is a ceramic material.

27:28So we place 95 % zirconia in our practice. There are very rare instances where there's no way to place a zirconia implant. There's just no bone, no way to make it happen. And a patient chooses, I'll take the risk of the titanium. Okay. But let's talk about what that risk is. Okay. I actually have a titanium implant myself because I had it placed when I was 22 years old, right here in front. It's still there. It's probably going to go away someday. But here's the problem with titanium that is really interesting, and it's actually getting worse. So titanium is a metal. It conducts electricity. It conducts heat just like any other metal does.

28:06There's actually very little allergen potential with it. So not very many people are allergic to it. That's not really the problem with titanium. but titanium is everywhere so it's in this is interesting it's a lot of cosmetics i know you talk about this yes it is it's in a lot of oral care product it's in like it's titanium dioxide is in toothpaste to make it white um it's in skittles it's the candy coating on the outside of m &ms and skittles it is in your walmart bags it's what makes the white lettering on the side of the walmart bag it is in paints it's everywhere so bodies aren't necessarily allergic they're just getting overloaded.

28:40Makes sense. There's too much of it. And so I've had a couple of patients, one in particular, we placed a titanium implant. This was years ago when I was still placing them. She couldn't wear metal jewelry again. She said, anywhere the metal jewelry touches me, I get a rash. Interesting. So we took the titanium implant out. She could wear metal jewelry again. It was an overload issue in her body. Overburdened. So that's problem number one is just, there's just too much of it in our world. But problem number two is even more interesting. and this is showing up in the orthopedic world. Knees, hips, shoulders, there's a lot more metal titanium versions of those than there are even dental implants.

29:14So what they're finding is in the world of frequencies that we surround ourselves with. Wi-Fi, cellular frequencies. These frequencies, when they pass through the air, I mean, people don't think about it, but how does that text that you just sent get to the phone that you sent it to? It has to pass through the air and there's a frequency of electricity that does that to get to that phone to phone. Well, it's just like a microwave. We can't put a metal pan in a microwave because what happens is the frequency of the wavelength passes through that metal pan, makes those particles vibrate, and they heat up.

29:45That's why a metal pan doesn't work in a microwave. Well, metal doesn't work in the frequencies that we're surrounded by often either without heating up. So titanium heats up four to five degrees when surrounded by Wi-Fi and cellular frequencies. Interesting. That's enough to slowly cook the bone. So titanium is really interesting. The implants, they actually take hold in the bone really quickly and well. But we're seeing a huge, massive failure of them at about five years out, 10 years out, 15 years out. And now dentists are scratching their heads going, why did they used to work? Like they worked so well.

30:25Why do they not anymore? Wow. It makes sense. It's what surround us. Yes. So zirconia is non-conductive. Okay. It doesn't heat up. The other thing that's interesting about titanium, any metal corrodes. And it corrodes when it's hot, moist. Think about the mouth. It's moist all the time. Moist all the time. Warm all the time. So corrosion happens. And corrosion is little particles break off from the metal surface. So all research, even titanium dentists, you know, dentists that place titanium implants know the titanium implants corrode, leaving titanium particles in the bone and gums around the implant itself.

31:05Well, anything that's left in the body as a foreign body, the body's going to stimulate the immune system and say, what's going on over there? Why don't you go figure out what that is? Again, low-level inflammation. Zirconia doesn't corrode. There's no corrosion with it. So this is why I choose zirconia implants because no overload issues, no heat issues from frequencies, and no corrosion. Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, so question then, because I know people listening are like, well, I have a root canal, but I don't feel like I have any health issues from it. So me being one of them, so do you suggest they go get that scan to see what it's doing?

31:43100%. I already know mine has a little infection in there. You told me from a few years ago, and I still have done nothing about it. Let's just re-scan it again. Because, again, people, you don't equate 1 plus 1 equals 2. You know, you don't say, well, this symptom is due to this. And sometimes symptoms are silent because all of the good that you're doing. I mean, you were just telling me this about your whole mold journey. People were so surprised that you hadn't had symptoms. It doesn't mean that that hasn't affected you. Yeah, it's true. Even though you are not symptomatic right now, it doesn't mean that it hasn't affected you.

32:17It hasn't affected the way your immune system is going to function five years from now, 10 years from now, whether you're going to be able to keep something away that you don't want. So it's a personal choice. And this is why I don't say every root canal should be removed because I think that that's not proper. I don't think that's correct to say at all. And we don't tell people you should never have a root canal. There's instances where sometimes a root canal is the best choice. My son got hit in the mouth with a baseball at 11 and knocked his two front teeth out. Well, and one of them was broken halfway off.

32:46We could do a root canal. You can't place a dental implant until someone's done growing. So for a boy, that's 22 years old. Oh, interesting. So he needed something to hold him for those 11 years until he could get a dental implant. So we did a couple of root canals and I watched them very closely, kept very close track of cone beam CT scans, all of these things. So a root canal can hold a space. So I tell people, if you don't have any symptoms, if you don't have any genetic predisposition to disease of any sort, if you are already very well, then maybe you're going to be just fine with a root canal for a while.

33:20But keep a close eye on it. Yeah. And one time you explained it to me as similar to a car battery when the door is left open, like the car does fine for a few minutes, few hours. But by 12 hours, you have a dead car. And so sort of the same analogy of like my little infection might be fine for a while, but is it draining the car battery, draining your body's battery? And then you end up with some tragic chronic disease like cancer or serious heart disease or something else. and you never go, I bet it was that root canal. It might have been my root canal. Because you're then in the point of, I've got to go fix this, whatever's going on.

33:57You don't ever point backwards and go, I bet. I mean, some people do. Some people come to our office and say, get them all out now. I was just diagnosed with breast cancer yesterday. I want them all out tomorrow. Because they're seeing the connection. And 100%, my preference is let's get it before you already have the diagnosis. Let's fix this first. Let's take a quick break to hear from our show sponsor. This podcast is sponsored by Active Skin Repair, a skin health brand that helps your skin heal using natural, non-toxic, medical-grade ingredients. What makes Active Skin Repair different is that it uses the same proprietary formulation trusted in hospitals.

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35:16You now have one simple solution for all your family's skin health needs. To learn more and get 20 % off your order, visit activeskinrepair.com and use code JUSTINGREDIENTS. You can also find Active Skin Repair on Amazon and at your local CVS. Now back to the show. Okay, so on similar terms then, taking wisdom teeth out, you take those teeth out, there's open cavitations for infections to occur. So I didn't realize this. My two older boys had the standard wisdom teeth removal. Once I learned this from you, my next two have come to your office to get their wisdom teeth removed. But maybe just explain that to the listeners really quickly.

35:59So this goes for any tooth that's removed. When a tooth is removed, there's a ligament surrounding the tooth. When you chew on your teeth, it's not just like chewing on stone. You know, there's a little bit of give to our teeth as we chew. That's because it's suspended by this little web of ligaments. It's called the periodontal ligaments. When the tooth is removed, that ligament isn't naturally removed with it. It's kind of like the placenta in a baby. You know, when you have a baby, it has to be removed separately. That's not standard of care, that we go and remove that ligament. It takes an extra step or two.

36:29Most surgeons aren't doing that. So what happens is that ligament is left behind. If the ligament is there, the body still thinks the tooth is there for about 10 days, research shows. So in that 10 days time, the body hasn't started healing the bone because the tooth is still there. Interesting. There's no reason to grow bone. But think about soft tissue. If you cut your finger today, in 10 days, it's pretty much healed, right? So in 10 days time, the gum over that area where the tooth was removed has healed. It's filled in that area where the bone should have been. so what it ends up happening is that ligament turns into a dead zone surrounded by soft tissue instead of bone so you've got this dead zone in the jawbone the other thing that makes this worse is when we're doing wisdom tooth removal oftentimes we're using anesthetic that we want to last for a long time because you want to be numb longer so that the pain doesn't kick in very soon right right well the way that works is with epinephrine so the anesthetic actually has adrenaline or epinephrine in it.

37:27It makes it so there's no blood flow to the area for a while. It closes off all the blood vessels. Blood flow equals bone healing. So now we have prolonged anesthesia, no blood flow, dead zone in the jaw, body doesn't even know it should be healing itself yet, and we get these areas that are commonly called cavitations, where the body just simply didn't have what it needed to heal. The other thing I say is often with wisdom teeth, I mean, this is what a 16 18 year old kid they're not sleeping well they're not eating well their bodies are still growing so they're using up so many nutrients to keep growing they have all these things actually it's the worst time to go put four holes in someone's head yeah because they don't have the resources needed to heal so they don't heal now are they always infected not always research is showing not always okay but they always lead to inflammation so there's always High rate, always.

38:21There's a high, high level of something called Rontase, which is a cytokine. It's basically an inflammatory marker. The body's saying, something's up over here. So if it didn't heal, it is causing inflammation in the system 100 % of the time. So that inflammation now, it's the same story with the root canal issue. What does the inflammation do to the body's ability to keep itself well? And here's the other piece. Remember that circuit board, you know, all those things. The breaker that's connected to the wisdom teeth is connected to the endocrine system. Wow. So that's all of your fatigue issues, the adrenal problems, the thyroid issues, as well as sex hormones.

39:02So a lot of infertility shows up here. So I had a woman, very fascinating story. She was literally bed bound in her mid thirties. She'd had to move back home with her mom, all of these things. They could not figure it out. She came, we cleaned out four wisdom teeth and removed one infected root canal. The next morning, her mom heard noise in the kitchen. She went out and her daughter was up doing the dishes. And she said, what are you doing? She said, I feel better than I felt in 10 years. Wow. Because all of a sudden, no more broken circuit, no more shorted out circuit in the endocrine system and that energy production system.

39:37So when people have energy issues, adrenal issues, fatigue issues, go get a cone beam CT scan. And most likely you have an area that didn't heal when a tooth was removed. This is fascinating because everybody in their 20s probably have had their wisdom teeth removed. Probably 80%. Yep. And our infertility rate is increased tremendously. There's probably a lot of factors involved in this. And so many women have hormone imbalance issues. Yep. And so no one, though, is really out there talking about, hey, if you have hormone issues, have you checked on your teeth? And we should be. And that is a, it sounds like a crazy connection.

40:14It does. We need to be talking about it more. Yep. But when we start talking about these circuit boards and the way the body's wired and the way it works, everything's connected to each other. That's really fascinating. Okay. But why are so many people doing this wisdom teeth removal wrong? Yep. Well, first of all, why are so many people needing to have their wisdom teeth out? Period. Well, that was my next question. Exactly. Do we really need to be removing them? So this all goes back to one of my very favorite mentors, Dr. Weston Price. He was a dentist in the 1930s and 1940s, and he went and studied all of these societies around the world.

40:47I told you I was just, I'm rereading his book right now, and what I loved is that he said he didn't want to study disease. He wanted to study health. So he was going to places that had health. And what he found is when people's bodies were healthy, their faces were wider. Their mouths were bigger. They had room for all of their teeth. interesting isn't that fascinating and if you start to think and the one of the reasons he started to go do this research is he was noticing people's mouths didn't hold their teeth anymore everybody needed braces and if you think about it it's like the rite of passage right you just need braces your teeth don't fit in your head why do they not fit in our heads yeah that's a really poor really poor manufacturing process right you know i mean right they used to if you look at skulls 200 300 years ago they had all of their teeth and everything fit and they were straight so this is really important to understand and this fits so into what you do nutrition is absolutely definitively related to the way the body grows right as a baby as a child all the way through the first bone affected by malnutrition is the top jaw really yep and i learned this with my son because he came we adopted him when he was two and a half his top jaw was so small it fit inside of his bottom jaw, which is the opposite of what should work.

42:01Interesting. And he was so malnourished. So I started really deeply studying this. The first bone affected by malnutrition is the top jaw. So now when your top jaw forms narrow, there's not enough room for the teeth in the mouth. So the teeth get crooked. The bottom jaw has to form very small to fit inside of it. The teeth get also crooked. Now there's no room for those teeth, let alone the wisdom teeth. So this is a huge nutritional deficiency issue and it's global and epidemic because how many people don't have room for all the teeth in their mouth anymore? Yeah. Again, 80%, like we see 80%.

42:35So it's all based on the nutrition levels and the food, the nutrition levels. I mean, this is your world. This is what you preach about all day long, every day. We are seeing the impact of it and it's showing up as no room for the teeth in our mouths. It's so interesting. Is it certain nutrients? So yes, Dr. Weston Price definitively showed it was fat-soluble vitamins. The people who were healthy had four times the amount of water-soluble vitamins. So that's vitamin C, vitamin Bs, and 10 times the amount of fat-soluble vitamins, which is vitamins A, D, E, and K. Oh, my goodness. Well, yep. I am, like, connecting some dots.

43:13Exactly right. We got rid of all of the tallow, the grass-fed butter in the 80s and 90s, early 2000s. We were using the margin. and the fat-free products. And now none of us have mouths that fit our teeth. And not only that, we even started taking these teeth out, not even just wisdom teeth, but other teeth out for braces because the mouths were so small. An orthodontist, that was the easy way out. Let's just take some teeth out. Well, what you do when you make the mouth permanently too small is now you are eliminated space for the tongue and for the teeth. And all of that has to fall backward.

43:48And I call it the ambient generation because now nobody sleeps because everything can't fit in their mouths because they're much too small. So they have to fall back into the airway. Yep. So this all was learned back in 1940 with Dr. Weston Price. We're just not talking about it. He even talked about how minerals, so minerals are really the key. And he used the term activators. Price's activators are activator X because at the time there was no name for vitamin K2. That is what he was talking about is vitamin K2. He found that it was the ultimate activator for mineral absorption. Interesting. So when you have a deficiency in minerals, you must have vitamin D3, which grabs the minerals, and vitamin K2, which puts it in the cell.

44:32If you do not have minerals plus those fat-soluble vitamins, you don't get bone growth. You don't get facial growth. You developmentally grow long and thin with mouth breathing. Why are we keeping our mouths closed? Because nobody can keep their mouths closed at night because nobody breathes at night. Everything falls back when they sleep and nobody can breathe by it. So this is a huge problem that we're just fixing the front end symptom of. We're taping our lips together instead of going, why do we open our mouths anyway? Right. It's because of growth and development issues based on nutrition.

45:04Wow. No one is really talking about that. So what do you say to all the young new moms out there that are listening to this? This is 100 % nutrition based. So it's first of all, listen to everything you say. You know, let's get the actual nutrition in the foods that we're feeding our children and ourselves. It was really interesting, too. Dr. Weston Price found that societies that had the best health fed both young women and young men for six months prior to conception, even. They figured out it was both in moms and dads. The food patterns that they were following were important to fertility rates, but also the health of the child.

45:44Makes sense. Super fascinating. So everybody needs to be following everything that you're talking about from any time in life, but previous to conception especially and during early life. So that's a big one. But one of the challenges we have, I'm a big gardener, you know that, is that food doesn't have what it used to have. And actually there's a lot of talk about that. So I do believe we have to supplement some things if we're not growing our own food. Really partaking in the food supply that we're given, we are probably going to have to supplement. So we have a chewable mineral supplement for children, a liquid vitamin D, K supplement for children, and I have every child that comes to our pediatric office on that because you just have to get the minerals and the fat-soluble vitamins if we're going to grow correctly.

46:30Okay, so do you think if we teach this generation to really feed their babies, their toddlers, more nutritious foods, do you think we'll see a generation of people that won't need their wisdom teeth out? That is my hope. I didn't finish your question before about what do we do instead, too. So let's jump back to that for just a moment. My hope is that absolutely, we can fit every single tooth in the mouth without orthodontic care. So we do a lot of what's called interceptive orthodontics. So we have an entire pediatric office that we care for children this way. And we are learning a lot as we're going, just like I had to learn with the adult population for years.

47:06We learned as we went. And as research evolved, then we changed and offered things. And we're doing that with pediatrics now. And what we're finding is that with children, a lot of the symptoms, again, nobody points to airway or facial structure or developmental issues. Things like bedwetting, tossing and turning at night, waking up and the bed looks crazy. They don't sleep in their own bed at night. This is my little granddaughter. Every day she says, I went to my mom's bed at night, you know, because she's waking up. Children shouldn't be waking up. Snoring, mouth breathing, ADHD symptoms, dark circles under their eyes.

47:39This is all they're not getting enough air, but nobody puts their finger on that. They put them on ADHD medication instead of saying they're suffocating all night long. No wonder their brains actually aren't growing and their face isn't growing the way it should. Oh, no one is talking about that. We could do a whole show on airway and ADHD. And we should. So these are such issues. So my hope is that with interceptive orthodontics, meaning we are jumping ahead of the train and we're saying let's grow the faces the right way now while they're young. Let's get the nutrients right now while they're young.

48:10So hopefully there's plenty of room for every tooth, including a wisdom tooth. Then we never have to worry about, is it being removed the right way? Is there going to be a cavitation left behind? Is it going to affect their energy system down the road? I don't want to deal with that. That is my goal, to never have to remove another wisdom tooth. But if we have to now, if there simply is no room, it's going to create all sorts of issues now, there are some steps. So again, at that removal appointment, we do the same thing I already talked about. We use ozone, make sure there's no bugs living in there, and we use that PRF, that stem cell growth factors that the bone can grow to, and we make sure that that teenager is getting the nutrients they need to actually grow that bone back.

48:50So that's the minerals and the vitamin D and K have to be on board in order to have them. It's no different than building a house. If you're trying to build a house and you have no wood, no screws, no siding, no roofing, it's not happening. So how are you going to fill in those holes if there's no minerals to do the job? Right. So you have to have the minerals in place to actually be able to do the work. Makes sense. Okay, I have so many questions for you, but we need to wrap up. But I do want to ask you about one other trendy topic. Okay. And this is hydroxyapatite. Yes. So there's so many people on TikTok.

49:28There's different companies saying it's terrible for you. Others saying it's amazing for you. It's the best replacement to fluoride. Can we talk about that really quickly before we wrap up? And I have deep dived into all of the up-to-date research on all of this. First of all, I want to caution people, but we can say the same thing about both of us. But I want you to look at who's saying the things about hydroxyapatite not working. Right. It's people who don't have hydroxyapatite in a product. But you can also say the same about us. We have hydroxyapatite in a product, and we're saying it's great.

49:56So let's just go to the research. Okay. What research shows is, number one, hydroxyapatite is what makes our teeth. That's not even research needed. We've known that forever. So hydroxyapatite is the mineral that teeth are made of. The key is, and people are debating this, there's two debates going on right now. Number one, does it actually work? So we're going to tackle that one. Number two, does it do harm elsewhere? Correct. We're going to tackle that one. Okay. So does it actually work? The answer is yes, if it's the right size. Okay. So what a cavity is, is when acid is on the surface of a tooth, it erodes or removes minerals and leaves a hole.

50:35So hydroxyapatite is the mineral that was removed, right? Yep. So we want to put whatever was removed back. Okay. It has to be small enough to fit in the hole. Right. Those holes are tiny. They are nano-sized. So all of this debate about nano and micro, and we're just going to simplify it down right now. Okay. It has to be nano-sized in order to fit in the hole. Okay. But there's definitions. So anything 200 nanometers and bigger is actually defined as micro. Okay. But it's still a nano-sized particle. It has to be to fit in the hole because the hole is nano-sized. So it has to be small enough to fit.

51:12Otherwise, it's just going to kind of go on the outside and it's just going to wash away. Does hydroxyapatite actually integrate in the tooth? It does. It actually fills the holes and plugs them up. And people that are debating this say, oh, but it just plugs up the hole. It's not actually binding. I don't care. It's filling up the hole. That's what I wanted to do. Correct. And it also creates a layer on the outside. This is another thing that they say. Well, it just creates a layer on the outside. Great. Because when I drink something acidic or there's acid in my mouth because I just ate food, it's going to take that first before it takes the native hydroxyapatite of my tooth.

51:46Great. It's a sacrificial layer on the outside. Fabulous. It's plugging a hole. Awesome. That's exactly what I want to have happen. Because if the hole stays open, a bug crawls in, it creates more acid, it crawls deeper, and that's all a cavity is. Cavity, yep. So we want to plug holes and we want to leave a layer on the outside that's going to protect it. So it has to be small enough to do that job. It has to be in the 200 nanometer range or smaller to be able to do the job. Makes sense. So now the debate is, does it go and calcify other places in the body? So here's the fascinating thing. When you're using hydroxyapatite in an oral care product, we actually did research on this specifically and said, how much of this is swallowed?

52:28How much of this gets into the system? So we figured out that 7 % of it is swallowed, even if you're trying not to swallow it. 7 % is going down the hatch. But down the hatch is into the stomach. Remember what we just said about teeth? What dissolves hydroxyapatite? Acid. Bingo. What lives in our stomach? Yep. A lot of acid. A lot of acid. And the more, the better. The more, the merrier down there. So research shows, and I can tell you this. This isn't me guessing. Research shows hydroxyapatite dissolves in stomach acid. It simply breaks apart into calcium and phosphate, which are minerals that we need and we use.

53:06So if we see calcification elsewhere in the body, in the pineal gland, in the arteries, it is not from your tooth powder or your toothpaste or your mouthwash or anything else. That is because the liver actually makes hydroxyapatite. It is what builds your teeth and your bones. Our bodies already make it. And so there's some inflammatory something happening that's leading the body to go, I need to go calcify something over there. It's liver generated, not from your toothpaste. You did a great job explaining all of that. Thank you very much. And it can't go through gums. That's another thing people push back on.

53:42They say, can it go through my gums? What if I have gum disease? No. Research shows absolutely not. It is not actually going through gum tissues to get into the rest of the body either. Okay. So good to know. Okay. I'm glad you stated all the research and now people on TikTok that are fighting over it can just turn to you. Exactly right. Thank you so much for being here. You've answered so many questions. I have so many more questions that I could ask you that we'll just have to do another episode. The guests love hearing from you. Tell the listeners though where they can find you. Yes. So any product, any information, I release two YouTube videos a week.

54:17Please go on there. If you have questions on what I've just talked about, I promise you I've talked about it before. go find free stuff on YouTube, but all the products also at livingwellwithdrmichelle.com. All the information is there. And if you are local here to Utah or don't mind flying, we get a lot of people from all over. The dental practice is called Total Care Dental, and we are in American Fork, Utah. And we love to see all of your followers because they already know what we're talking about, which is so amazing. And they already appreciate nutrition and everything else. So thank you for sharing all you do because it makes our job easier.

54:50Well, I love what you guys do. And you've helped us in so many things with wisdom teeth and silver removals. And now I need to go back to you and go look at my wisdom teeth cavitations and things. So we will be back at your office. But I've been ending this season of podcasts by asking five quick questions. So we're going to end with these. The first one is, what emerging health topic are you most excited about right now? So it's actually not emerging. It's just re-emerging. And it's this nutrition piece that nutrition truly is the foundation of wellness and the corollary is disease. And if we can fix this, we can fix so many things.

55:27Yeah, I love that. Okay, number two, what's a piece of advice you give your younger self? Don't be afraid to be different and stick your neck out there because oftentimes there's people who are wanting to do it. They just don't quite dare. and that is truly the way that I have helped more people to live well is by just being a little unafraid to say the things that no one's saying. Well and being different you were different with how you were getting silver fillings out yep but then that's how I found you so exactly. Okay number three what's the one health practice you'll never compromise on no matter how busy life gets?

56:02It's a great question. I start my morning with lemon water which might be controversial as a dentist. But with warm lemon water, it kickstart my entire digestive tract. I feel like a hundred percent different person for that day when I do that. And just make sure you wait 20 minutes before you brush your teeth. Okay. That's interesting because Jeff has been on this little kick of doing lemon water, warm lemon water, but with a tablespoon of chia seeds in it. Great. And so he's trying to get me on the train as well. Just add a little salt in there too. Add a little real salt in there. Oh, there you go.

56:34But chia seeds makes it a really weird texture, so I don't know if I'm loving it yet. It's a little slimy. Yeah, exactly. Okay, number four, what's your favorite just ingredients product and why? Oh, this is so easy. The bone broth protein powder. It is the only protein powder I've ever been able to use because I am so sensitive to whey, and I despise all the other, like, vegan versions, pea protein, your bone broth. Literally, I have it in my car right now because it's my daily. Oh, I love that. Yep. Love it so much. And number five, what have you found to be the best ingredient to life? And you've answered this a couple times now.

57:10Exactly right. But I can't remember. Do I use the same one? I actually think it is abundance is the best. And I know you're probably looking for a real ingredient. Last time I said butter. But this time I'm going to say abundance. I believe there is enough for everybody in the world. And we just all have to learn how to share. Oh, I love that. I actually really love that. We could say that we're competitors. But we're not. And everybody asked me, like, what do you think about these protein companies that are copying you and these? And I'm like, that's great. That means more people are getting healthy in the world.

57:42And there's abundance for all of us. How many billion people live here? Right. There's no way we're all going to be able to take care of all of them. Exactly. I love that. Well, thank you again for being here. I know the guests always love when you're here. You guys go give her a follow. If you're not following her, go watch her YouTube videos like she said. She's given so much free, good information out there. So thanks for being here. Thank you. Thank you for being here and being part of this community. Don't forget to subscribe to the Just Ingredients podcast. We've got so much more to share with you.

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58:31Thank you.

From the publisher

In today’s episode I’m sitting down with Dr. Michelle Jorgensen, and we’re taking a closer look at dental health and how it can have a much bigger impact on overall wellness than most of us are ever taught.

Here are a few key takeaways from our conversation:

1. Mercury fillings and what to know:

Dr. Jorgensen shares her experience and what she’s learned about silver fillings and mercury exposure. We talk about why the removal process matters and why it’s so important to only work with a dentist trained in safe protocols like SMART removal to help minimize exposure during the process.

2. Root canals and hidden infection risk:

We also dive into root canals and why they’ve become a point of concern for some practitioners. Dr. Jorgensen explains how trapped or residual tissue in the tooth structure can sometimes become a source of chronic, low-grade infection.

3. Wisdom teeth removal and proper healing:

Another important topic we cover is wisdom teeth extraction and how technique can influence long-term healing. Dr. Jorgensen shares what to look for in a provider and why things like proper tissue removal and supportive therapies (like ozone) can play a role in reducing complications and supporting recovery.

This episode is such an important one for anyone who wants to understand the connection between dental procedures and whole-body health.

Bio:

Today’s guest is Dr. Michelle Jorgensen, a former traditional dentist turned holistic health pioneer, who helps exhausted, health-conscious people finally feel like themselves again—by starting where health actually begins: your cells. She’s the founder of Living Well with Dr. Michelle and author of her newly released book by the same name, which reveals how to decode your symptoms and give your body exactly what it needs to heal, thrive, and stay energized—without the fads, overwhelm, or guesswork. If you’re tired of chasing health trends and still not feeling better, this conversation is for you.

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