Finding Hope in Cancer Treatment w/ Dr. Antonio Jimenez

29:15Wow. So what they do, as you know, is you sterilize, clean that area very well with ozone. with lasers and photodynamic therapy. And then you put platelet-rich fibrin in there that helps close that cavitation. And then you wait three, four months or something. And in my situation, I did a zirconium crown. Okay. Yes. All right. Well, you've convinced me to go get these cavitations cleaned out. It's fixed. It's published. There's correlation with dental toxicity and breast cancer, colon cancer and others, to the point where they isolated an infected tooth and saw specific pathogens in their bacteria and others.

29:58And now patients that had colon cancer, they resected the tumor and then sent out to the lab and the same pathogens that were in the tooth were in the tumor. She was talking about this as well for breast cancer. Yes. Same thing. Yes. Same thing. Yes. Okay. So I'm curious with detoxing then, is mold an issue that you see with people or not really? Yes, it is an issue. And yeah, many stories about that, but you should have your home checked depending where you live. But I think everywhere can have mold. I just had a patient this two days ago in our Cancun Center. She said there was mold in my bedroom.

30:35And I'm like, wow, that's strange. There's not water in your bedroom, right? But there was mold in the bedroom also. Well, I'm like smirking right now because my followers know that I had so much mold in my bedroom. So we had mold dogs come in and they found mold everywhere. We had to tear down literally the entire ceiling, pull out insulation, the walls. So we're not even living in our bedroom right now because it's under construction again. So I just went and got tested for mold and I do have a lot of mold. So now you know, and now you know that you need to work on that. So that's a blessing.

31:10The problem is when you don't do that and you don't know and you take it for granted that everything is fine. I know because a lot of people I know feel sick with mold. It causes SIRS or, you know, all these autoimmune issues or triggers things. And I feel good. I feel healthy and strong and vibrant and full of energy. So I was like, but we need to get it out for sure. Yeah, take that X factor out so that's not part of an equation that can be, God forbid, with anything in the future. Yeah. Okay, on detoxing still, there's a lot of, like, detoxing juices and cleanses and all these things that you see on social media.

31:47So are you talking about those? Or detoxing is more just an everyday thing, living a healthy lifestyle? Yeah, it's all of that. It's all of that because we're flooded with toxins all the time, right, from the environment. I mean, what we found when we checked, for example, heavy metals, because, you know, Carolyn, this is a big topic, right? But one example is we check everyone for heavy metals. Across the board, 100 % of people, including myself, we have aluminum toxicity. Interesting. Aluminum toxicity. And where is that coming from? The atmosphere. Oh, okay. And, of course, if we're taking care of our kitchen and getting rid of aluminum pots and pans and all that.

32:26So heavy metal detox is a must, and that's called chelation. At Hope for Cancer, we do some IV chelation at home, but in three weeks, in a month, you can't get rid of all this. So it has to be a prolonged therapy, and we use suppositories that are actually made here in Utah that are calcium disodium EDTA. They're inserted rectally three days a week for about three to six months, and that's gentle. It's done at home. You don't have to sit in a doctor's office for two, three hours, get in chelation treatment. And then we re-check patients. So heavy metal detox is important. We talked about emotional detox is important.

33:08Finding out how the gut microbiome is, because many people take probiotics. But remember, it's the right probiotic at the right dosage, at the right time, for the right person. So we have to really check the microbiome specifically for each individual to know exactly how to reestablish that healthy flora, that healthy microbiome. And whether the patient needs, you know, probiotic, prebiotic, postbiotic, and then colon hydro to cleanse that colon. And then we re-infuse spirulina and other things to repopulate the lower colon intestinal tract. So detox takes a lot of avenues. Juicing is part of it.

33:52Personalized nutrition, hydration. When do we detox a lot that often we don't? Think about it as during sleep. So between 10 p.m. and 2 a.m. is when the body regenerates, repairs, detox, and gets healthier. Neuroplasticity happens ideally between 10 p.m. and 2 a.m. So let's raise our hand. Who is asleep by 10? I was just going to say to you, I don't think most people are asleep by 10. Yes. Interesting. So what time do you go to bed? 10 o 'clock. I'm working on that. But now I have an aura ring. I've had it for a few years and other, you know, wearables. So it's constant work in our life is travel.

34:40We go into the clinic with the family. We dedicate a lot of time to research. We have a research and education department at Hope for Cancer headed by a double PhD scientist. So we're looking at data. We're analyzing patient outcome, always striving to be better and better because cancer is not as easy to treat now in 2026 than it was back in the 90s when I started. Oh, interesting. Because of all the toxins. Toxins. Our immune system is more compromised. I think that also, you know, there's a lot of emotional stuff going on and fear. A patient once said, Dr. Tony, cancer is not the enemy. Fear is the enemy.

35:25I believe that. Yes. Well, especially the second you get a cancer diagnosis, fear just is huge. That's right. And that's called the shock of the cancer diagnosis. So we work on that. If you're viewing this, of course, think about where were you when you were told that you had that C word? How did you receive that news? Did you see yourself in a casket or did you see yourself on top of the summit being victorious? And then we have to work on that from an emotional, biological perspective. Oh, I love that. Okay, so detoxing sounds very overwhelming to the listener, like, oh my gosh, coffee enemas and suppositories or getting rid of EMFs and beauty products.

36:13There's a lot. So where do you tell someone to start? First of all, I totally agree with you. I totally agree with you. And we have to keep it simple. Start with the basics of nutrition, and I'm sure your audience knows that very well. So gluten-free, dairy-free, no GMO foods. And for me, I resonate more towards the garden. At Hope for Cancer, I coined what is called the garden food plan. So the closer we are to the garden, the better. That means 80%, that's the most 20 % fruit. If you need some animal protein, bring in some fish. That's now not bottom-dwelling fish that have a lot of toxins and heavy metals.

36:57So that's important. And knowing that what you do most of the time is what's important, not what you do some of the time. But some things, especially if you're in that cancer healing journey, you can't take shortcuts. You can't, you know, you have to really grab the bullet points, be diligent, disciplined, and committed. So where do we start? Non-inflammatory foods, hydration, proper sleep, exercise. And for exercise, I recommend three things. First, lightweight-resistant training, aerobics, and that means walking. 20 minutes, 30 minutes. Do it to your ability and step it up. If it's hot like it is here, go on the treadmill.

37:4430 minutes. You know, we have a patient that has stage 4 metastatic pancreatic cancer. They gave him only a month or so to live when he came to us. Did everything in Canada. He's from Canada. Chemo, radiation, he even did a clinical trial. And I'm just praying that, you know, he does well. But now he's doing 15 minutes of treadmill a day. Oh, good for him. And he came in in a wheelchair. Wow. Right? So he's still not out of the woods by any means, but we're getting him moving because another thing is move, move, move. A body in motion is a body that can heal. So aerobics, lightweight resistant training and stretching and flexibility.

38:27Oh, I love that. Okay, can we talk more about the nutrition though? Sure. So when they're at your center, so they are eating three meals, I'm assuming, at your location, all anti-inflammatory. So no gluten, no dairy. Any protein? Yes, yes. Oh, you said the fish, but anything besides fish, chicken, beef? The beans and more from vegetables and greens, healthy greens. But we're not eating any grass-fed meat, pasture-raised chicken. And the reason for that, Carolyn, is that 20 % to 30 % of our daily caloric expenditure is in the digestive process, meaning 20 % to 30 % of the energy that the body spends every day is on digestion.

39:13Okay. And most people, most patients have low energy. They have fatigue. And that's actually number one reason people in general go to the doctors and say, hey, doc, I need more energy. I need that coffee to wake me up. Why do you need coffee to wake you up? If you just slept seven and eight or eight hours, you need something to wake you up, right? I agree. Yeah. So, yes, energy production is important. This is why we don't allow chicken or beef, even if it's grad-fed, at initial stages of the treatment plan. Because what if we lower that to 10 % of the daily caloric expenditure is in digestion?

39:56So we have 20 % more energy that we could use for feeling better, having better cognitive health. because most patients, 75 % of our patients, have failed all conventional therapy. Wow. So it's a big challenge. It used to be higher. So as you said, because of COVID and all that, people are more aware because of podcasts like this. They're more aware. And so they're coming to us a little earlier now than, you know, five, six years ago. Okay, so do you teach them how to eat for those three weeks? It's changed a lot in the last number of years. I think people are more informed. More aware. They're more aware.

40:35They find, you know, someone to help them like you did so many years ago to help you in making better nutritional choices. But there's always those patients that say, Dr. Tony, I'll do everything you say, but don't tell me not to eat hamburgers and french fries and a hot dog. So we have to engage in a conversation about that. We have to change that paradigm. So do we get rid of seed oils as well? Absolutely. And do we work on, like, keeping blood glucose levels balanced? Metabolic syndrome, insulin resistance is huge. I would say 65 % of our patients have insulin-resistant metabolic syndrome. So, yes, we use natural remedies, you know, the berberines and nutritional protocols, detox, because a lot of this goes hand in hand.

41:24I call these non-food nutritional factors. Non-food nutritional factors are everything else that go along with healthy nutrition. Like we mentioned some of them, exercise, good sleep, hydration, movement, and so forth. Okay, so basically the nutrition there is everything that I teach on my page to eat real whole foods, foods from nature, healing and nourishing to the body, things like that. Stay away from the ultra-processed foods, the seed oils, things like that. Yes. So did we touch upon all seven pillars or did we miss one? Well, we missed a few of them. Oh, no. But maybe just quickly highlighting some of them.

42:03Well, we talked about the microbiome. We talked about detox. We talked about the... Let's quickly, though, talk about the microbiome. Okay. What do you do there for the microbiome? Are we talking supplements? Are we talking fermented foods? What are we talking about? We're talking about everything. All of it. All of that. And we oftentimes recommend for patients to have a GI map or GFX test. because dysbiosis, gut petrification, gut fermentation is so rampant now. And so, yes, we have to really assess gut health. But the microbiome, I say we typically hear the gut-brain connection, right? I say the gut-everything connection.

42:42Oh, I love that. As the gut goes, many things go. And we have the psychoneuroendocrine immune system that's called the piné. So if the gut is off, the immune system is off. That means the endocrine, the hormone system is not optimal. And that means the nervous system is off. So you're in sympathetic overdrive. It's like the tiger is chasing you day and night. And so it all works together, right? Yeah. Yes. Okay. So what other step did we miss? Well, we know from research back in the 1940s, 1950s, right, that cancer cells and abnormal inflammatory cells thrive on low oxygen. And so I'll bet you a nickel that most people walking the face of the earth have low oxygenation at the cell level.

43:33Oh, okay. At the cell level. So anything that we could do to improve oxygenation is great. And some of these things are very easy, like how's your breath? So we do VO2 max testing at our centers. because we're looking at metabolic respiratory health. And so breathing is so important, and that's a big topic, of course. And what about live foods, live-giving foods, right, to improve oxygenation? Meaning fruits, veggies? Anything that's alive, fruits, veggies, particularly, yes, yes. Juicing, oxygenation, I think that freeing or blind from all these thoughts and, you know, so much because it sequesters, it changes the matrix, if you will.

44:22And also I would recommend lymphatic massage, right, or that fascia, that's so important, fascia release, that now we know that the fascia is an organ in itself. So getting lymphatic massages, relaxation massages, stopping and smelling the roses, all this that upregulates oxygen. And, of course, from a clinical perspective, we do everything from hyperbaric oxygen. We do ozone rectally, vaginally, intravenously. We do blood cleansing with ozone and oxygen and UVA light. Like Eboo? Like sort of the Eboo. So we have the Eboo, and we piggy bank a UVA device. Okay. So it gets filtered, oxygenated, ozonated, and then it goes to UVA light, which kills viruses, bacteria, and all that.

45:15So my listeners probably know Eboo because I've had two kids go through treatments of Eboo to get rid of mold. Okay. I love Eboo. I do once, probably one or two a month of Eboo. Okay. And it's fantastic. What I feel, after an Eboo, initially I feel a little relaxed and sleepy. but after an hour I'm like ready to go. It's a nice energy. Cognitive health is improving. So love, love, Ebo. Okay. So you offer all those at single day? Every day. And ozone every day? Every day. That's incredible. Again, I just want to ask like, why do we not do this in America? I mean, they're becoming more popular, but.

45:56And we're doing it from a medical perspective, not from a spa perspective. Yeah. And we also have at Hope for Cancer in Cancun, separate, we have a wellness program and we call it seven wellness by seven KP. That means seven key principle. So another take home message for all the viewers is those seven key principles that we talked about, they're for all of us. Although I call them the seven key principles of cancer therapy, they're really the seven key principle of health, wellness, and longevity. Yeah. So all those things you've been talking about, we all should be doing on a daily basis. Okay, so did we hit all seven?

46:34Yes. Okay, I do want to ask you one thing, though, because you touched upon it a couple times, and juicing. Because I know a lot of people, when they're on a cancer treatment plan, they are juicing. I love juicing. So I've been juicing a lot quite often. And people, I get these comments of like, you need your fiber from the fruits and veggies. Why are you only juicing? And I'm not only juicing. I am eating my fruits and veggies, too. But why is juicing beneficial, and why does it get a bad rap? Especially if you are challenged because you've had chemo, you've had abdominal surgery, or you've had chronic digestive challenges, juicing is so good because it's bioavailable.

47:14It's absorbed immediately. The digestive process doesn't have to do much. So you're getting all the nutrients in a very bioavailable, absorbable manner. And the other pushback on juicing, especially in cancer, is because there's a thought out there that sugar feeds cancer. And in 2014, I went public in a documentary that was all over the Internet called The Truth About Cancer, where I said that fruits and vegetables can be consumed by a cancer patient because it's not the sugar and fruits that are going to feed cancer cells. If any of you have had a PET CT scan, you get an IV. That's a sugar. But guess what?

47:58That's a right spin sugar. Cancer cells absorb right spin molecules, not left spin molecules. Oh, interesting. All sugars in natural, unadulterated, God-made fruits and vegetables spin to the left. refined, processed, adulterated sugars, spin to the right. And science knows that because when you have a PET scan, they give you that contrast medium. It's 2-fluorodeoxyglucose. Deoxy means right spin. Levorotatory means left spin. When you have an amino acid in your products, what's the letter in front of that amino acid like proline lysine methionine it's l yep l stands for leborotatory left spin interesting because our human mammalian cells can only preferentially absorb left spin molecules okay and that's in fruits and vegetables this is fascinating this is the first time I've ever heard it like this.

49:11Yeah. The other aspect is consider this, Carolyn and everyone. If it was that simple, that sugar feeds cancer preferentially, what would we do? Yeah. Stop all sugars. Does the cancer die? It feeds on proteins. So you stop sugars, you stop proteins. Does the cancer die? No. It feeds on fat. So you stop sugar, you stop protein, and you stuff up, then the cancer wins because you're malnourished, right? So it's about going back to nature, as you said, going back to the garden. And yes, 80 % vegetables, 20 % fruits. In the Gerson diet, if your listeners have heard about the Gerson diet, Max Gerson, back in the 50s, 60s, he gave a juice every hour in his cancer patients.

50:02And a lot of those juices, at least five of those juices were carrot juice. And carrot, as you know, has a high glycemic index. But it's a left-spin sugar. So interesting. So interesting. Okay, so I have two last questions. Okay. First of all, intermittent fasting, does that play a role in your nutrition program? We're a little careful with intermittent fasting because a lot of our patients are in cachexia. That means breakdown. They're not building up tissue and muscle. So what I recommend, typically what we recommend at Health for Cancer, is eat your last meal at 6 p.m. and then breakfast at 8 or 10.

50:42That'll give you 14 to 16 hours of fasting and 7, 8 of those hours you're asleep. And so we're getting the benefits of fasting, right? Which are getting rid of senescent cells, upregulating healthy stem cell production to have a better immune system and so forth. and the anti-inflammatory effect of fasting, all that. So that's typically what we do. Now at Dana-Farber Medical Center in Boston, one of my colleagues there, Dr. Ding, D-I-N-G, they're studying in animals, they're studying something called alternate day fasting, A-D-F. And that means on day one, they eat their normal healthy diet. Day two, they just do water.

51:25Day three, normal. They for water, so they're alternating alternate day fasting. That's still in the research mode right now. Preliminary studies in mice are pretty positive and compelling. So I'm waiting to see what that data shows once they get to the human studies. Okay, so for all our listeners that are listening who are not dealing with cancer, do you recommend then a smaller intermittent fasting every day? I say the thing with fasting is consistency, like many things, right? So for me personally, I do that 6 p.m. a.m. my first breakfast. And just doing a three-day or seven-day fast, you know, every few months.

52:08What if we do that consistently and we get those benefits? Yeah. But we're all individuals, and, you know, I'm not here to prescribe things for us. So talk to your functional medicine doctor, your integrative doctor. And maybe for you, for a short period of time, one of these prolonged fasts might be better for you, right? But remember, the consistency of the fast is what I like. I love that. Okay, I have so many questions for you, but we'll wrap it up. But I feel like you are not fearful of cancer. And when I talk to others, fear is a huge thing of cancer. So have you just gotten over that fear because of all the amazing hope and healing that you've seen at your treatment centers?

52:51Yes, both things. If you see the subtitle of my book, Hope for Cancer, it says seven principles to remove fear and empower your healing journey. We need to have fear overcome by faith. Where there's faith, fear should not dwell. And so on a practical perspective, to get easier for fear to go away is to be proactive. So I'm proactive personally. I do my coffee enemas. I do my thymus and alpha-1 and a lot of supplements. I exercise, do lightweight resistance training. I'm not perfect by any means. And sometimes, you know, you struggle a little bit. but consistency again. So how is the best way to remove fear?

53:43Because the statistics are not lying. Incidents of cancer in younger population is increasing tremendously. I have never seen 24 years old with breast cancer, 26 years old with colorectal cancer, pancreatic cancer starting at much earlier age than ever before. So we need to take that free away by being proactive now and setting your health plan, health plan, because we want longevity, but we want also great quality of life. Because cancer is a smart disease. 11 integrative hallmarks of cancer to minimize risk and optimize health. But these are also of health, right? Things that we all should be doing.

54:30All that we should be doing, yes. Well, I love that you said the word hope, that there is hope for healing, you said, because I talk a lot about the mental health space. And I don't know if you know my story, but I tried to take my life because I lost hope. I lost hope in any healing mechanism out there because I didn't know this stuff back then. And so I love that you're saying to these listeners, there is hope for healing. Don't give up. Go fight. Go be that person on the top of the summit rather than visioning yourself in the casket. Yes, and that hope word is so powerful because whether you're a believer in the Lord and our creator or not, But hope is given to us by our creator.

55:09And no one can take that away, whether they have a white jacket with all these diplomas on the wall and they're an authority. Don't allow anyone to take your hope away. The only one that could take your hope away is yourself. Yep. Right? That is true. Like in your situation. So, but then, wow, when that's rekindled, that hope word becomes so powerful. It does. And then you bring love into that and you're resonating and vibrating at a high frequency. Disease does not have a room to thrive in a body that's resonating. It's in coherence and it's in a loving environment. I love that so much. Thank you so much for being here.

55:54I know listeners will love this episode. Listeners, if you know anyone dealing with cancer, share this episode with them because this is amazing. share with them the Hope for Cancer Treatment Centers, because that is just a God-given gift you have given to so many people. And I love that you just followed what God wanted you to do in life. And in return, you're helping so many people heal, which is incredible. And so I always end my podcast by asking my guests what they have found to be the best ingredient in life. And so you might say hope, but what else besides hope, since we just talked on hope?

56:28Wow, that's a good one. The best ingredients in life is joy. It's joy. I think that joy is lacking in today's world. And no matter where you are in your life or in the cancer journey, find your joy. Find that joy every day. Because 10 ,000 people, approximately, don't wake up every morning. With cancer, without cancer. They just don't wake up every morning in the world. So what if we start every morning with thanking our Creator that, hey, you might have cancer, you might have something else, but I woke up another day. It is a blessing. I'm the joy. It's a blessing. And then secondly, if there's someone next to you, could be a fur body, tell them how much you love them, love yourself for that day.

57:19And then think about these seven key principles that we discussed today. What can you do better today? What do you have to step up today? Maybe, you know, I haven't been in the Word. I haven't been reading the Bible. Or maybe you've been lacking in your oxygenation to exercise. Maybe you failed a little bit with your healthy nutrition plan. Whatever it is, I'm going to step it up today. So if that becomes a habit that we start our day every morning with that, wow, we're going to really live long, well, and with optimal health. Oh, I so agree. Can you just let everybody know where they can learn more from you and learn more about the Hope for Cancer Treatment Centers and find your books?

58:06Yes, absolutely. The website is Hope, the number for cancer, hopeforcancer.com. And it's a very extensive educational website. We also have patient testimonials. And in there is the contact information for our admissions specialist. And what typically happens is patients send their medical records. We review them and then make a treatment plan for you. And we guide you in all the steps of getting to Hope for Cancer, either in Tijuana or Cancun, Mexico, and also for the 7 Wellness by 7KP program. The books are also available on Amazon, especially the Hope for Cancer book. The other cancer-outspotted is available in a website called virtualhealthoptions.com.

58:56Virtualhealthoptions.com. Okay. And any social media? Yes, I think so. We have all that Facebook and Instagram and yes, yes. Okay, perfect. So we'll put all those links in the show notes. Well, thank you again for being here. It has been a true honor interviewing you and learning about the Hope for Cancer Treatment Centers. Thank you so much, Carolyn. Thank you for being here and being part of this community. Don't forget to subscribe to the Just Ingredients podcast. We've got so much more to share with you. And if you're not already, come join us daily on all social media platforms at just.ingredients.

59:35Until next time, keep choosing what nourishes you.