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Episode 214 - Your Women’s Health Questions Answered by an OBGYN
Description In this episode, Karalynne Call interviews Dr. Mallorie Cracroft, an OBGYN turned functional medicine expert. They discuss various topics related to women's health, including perimenopause, menopause, postpartum health, hormone balance, and annual screenings.
Key Points
Introduction
- Host: Karalynne Call
- Guest: Dr. Mallorie Cracroft
- Focus: Women’s health insights, hormone balance, and holistic approaches to health.
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Perimenopause and Menopause
- Definition of Perimenopause:
- A transitional phase marking the decline of ovarian function, often starting in the late 30s to early 40s.
- Characterized by changes in hormone levels, particularly estrogen and progesterone.
- Phases of Perimenopause:
- Early Phase:
- Beginning in mid to late 30s.
- Decreased progesterone and fertility.
- Symptoms may include irregular periods, sleep disturbances, irritability.
- Mid Phase:
- Estrogen levels rise, leading to heavier periods and emotional changes.
- Late Phase:
- Decline in estrogen, leading to classic menopausal symptoms like hot flashes, brain fog, and mood swings.
- Menopause:
- Defined as 12 consecutive months without a menstrual period.
- Marked transition to post-menopause.
Symptoms and Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT)
- Differentiating between high and low estrogen symptoms:
- High estrogen symptoms: Irritability, weight gain, heavy periods.
- Low estrogen symptoms: Vaginal dryness, low libido, mood swings.
- HRT Discussion:
- HRT can be beneficial but should be tailored to individual needs and symptoms.
- Emphasis on understanding hormone levels vs. merely treating symptoms with HRT.
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Lifestyle Factors and Annual Screenings
- Lifestyle Factors:
- Importance of nutrition, exercise, and sleep in managing health.
- Recommendations for regular health checks and screening.
- Annual Screenings:
- Recommendations for pap smears and mammograms, emphasizing individual risk factors.
- Discussion of alternative screening methods like thermography and QT imaging.
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Preconception and Postpartum Health
- Preconception Health:
- Importance of preparing the body for pregnancy to ensure maternal and fetal health.
- Suggested lab tests before conception to assess health.
- Postpartum Health:
- Addressing postpartum depression and its causes.
- Recommendations for diet, movement, and addressing deficiencies after childbirth.
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Hormonal Health and Nutritional Support
- Discussion on the importance of various nutrients (B vitamins, iron, Vitamin D) for hormonal balance.
- Approach to health should be holistic, addressing both physical and mental well-being.
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Rapid-Fire Questions
- Emerging Health Topic: Mass Cell Activation Syndrome (MCAS).
- Advice to Younger Self: Prioritize health and well-being earlier.
- Non-Negotiable Health Practice: Nervous system regulation and self-care.
- Favorite Just Ingredients Product: Bone broth protein.
- Best Life Ingredient: The concept of "release" and self-discovery.
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Closing Remarks Dr. Cracroft emphasizes the importance of supporting women’s health through informed choices, embracing a holistic approach, and recognizing the complexities of hormonal health. The episode encourages listeners to be proactive in understanding their bodies and health needs.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOIntroduction of Dr. Mallory Craycroft
0:45 to 3:00
Cara introduces Dr. Mallory Craycroft, an OBGYN specializing in functional medicine.
“So we'll try to get through as many of these questions as we can today.”
Discussing Perimenopause and Menopause
3:00 to 5:00
The hosts begin a discussion on perimenopause, outlining common questions and concerns.
“The second phase of perimenopause is that transition in the 40s, maybe early 40s.”
Understanding Perimenopause
5:00 to 8:00
Dr. Craycroft explains what perimenopause is and its phases, including symptoms.
“Are you in perimenopause or do your ovaries need some support?”
Symptoms and the Transition to Menopause
8:00 to 10:00
Dr. Craycroft details symptoms of perimenopause and the transition to menopause.
“In my residency, we had one rotation in menopause care, which was more than most people.”
Hormone Testing and Support
10:00 to 12:00
Discussion on hormone testing during perimenopause and how to manage symptoms.
“like women don't ever need bioidentical progesterone or bioidentical hormones or a marketing term, or, oh, I never prescribed testosterone for women.”
The Role of Functional Medicine in Women's Health
12:00 to 14:00
Exploring the differences between conventional OBGYN care and functional medicine.
“Maybe breasts are starting to sag or get smaller, a little sex drive, vaginal dryness.”
Understanding Hormonal Changes in Perimenopause
14:02 to 17:45
Learn about the effects of hormonal changes during perimenopause and their role in weight gain and body changes.
“And especially as they start falling, the progesterone starts to fall, testosterone, estrogen, we don't get away with much anymore.”
The Role of Hormone Replacement Therapy
17:45 to 22:57
Explore the benefits and limitations of hormone replacement therapy, emphasizing a holistic approach to health.
“There's so much more we can do to support the body in addition to HRT.”
Navigating Hormone Combinations and Their Effects
22:57 to 27:04
Understand the relationship between estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone, including their effects when used individually or in combination.
“So So one other question about HRT is you hear different things out there.”
Annual Screenings: Pap Smears and Mammograms
28:21 to 30:59
Discussion on the importance and nuances of annual screenings, including risks and alternatives.
“So let's use mammogram as an example, because that comes up a lot, right?”
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Holistic Approach to Annual Exams
30:59 to 33:55
Exploring a comprehensive and holistic method for annual exams, including lab tests and lifestyle habits.
“healthy blood sugar like there are things that we can be doing it's not just about i made a decision to screen and I'm, I'm, you know, I'm not going to do mammograms because those have radiation.”
Managing Health Fears and Pap Smear Myths
33:55 to 38:41
Addressing common fears about health screenings, particularly pap smears, and promoting a healthier mindset.
“That lab panel costs about a hundred dollars.”
Preparing for Pregnancy: The Preconception Visit
38:41 to 42:00
Discussing the importance of preconception visits and optimizing health before pregnancy.
“So moving on to a new topic, because I had a lot of people asking about pregnancy and postpartum, obviously I've got all ranges of women listening to this podcast.”
Postpartum Recovery Insights
42:00 to 43:10
Learn about the challenges and strategies for postpartum recovery.
“But it was, it was a wonderful, healthy pregnancy.”
Addressing Postpartum Depression
43:10 to 45:24
Explore effective approaches to managing postpartum depression and its symptoms.
“There's a lot we don't understand about postpartum, but postpartum depression is what we're talking about.”
Newborn Care Essentials
45:24 to 47:27
Discover key practices in newborn care to support new mothers and their babies.
“Can we bring them really great foods so they can just get their body working?”
Safe Practices for Newborns
47:27 to 50:24
Understand the importance of safe practices in newborn care, including vitamin K and eye ointments.
“It's your job to be the safe place for your baby, number one.”
Personal Growth and Health Awareness
50:24 to 54:31
Gain insights into personal health strategies and the significance of emotional well-being.
“Well, and I've heard you say something before, which I like you were saying like, don't sweat the small stuff with low toxins, like worry about the bigger decisions, right?”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:Welcome to the Just Ingredients podcast. I'm Cara Lynn and here we dive deep into the journey of healing and wellness. If you're ready to learn, feel empowered and take charge of your health, you're in the right place. Welcome back to the show today. I am super excited because we have one of my absolute favorite doctors here on the show with us. is Dr. Mallory Craycroft. And she's been on the podcast before. And I actually asked you guys on Instagram the other day what you would want to hear from an OBGYN who now also does functional medicine, which is not a common combination. And so many questions about, oh my gosh, perimenopause, menopause, postpartum, taking care of the baby, annual screenings.
0:46Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:So we'll try to get through as many of these questions as we can today. But thank you so much for being here. Oh, my pleasure. I'm excited. Well, I'm excited to ask you all these questions because we've got a lot of women out there just wanting answers. I'm ready. So I'm going to start with perimenopause and menopause just because that was a big question people kept asking. So let's start with perimenopause. I will tell you in my twenties and thirties, I never even really heard that word. And then I feel like it's very trendy right now. Everybody's talking about perimenopause. So what is perimenopause and how does someone know if they're actually in perimenopause?
1:20unknown host:Yeah, it's a great question. Perimenopause is just a transition state. So think about puberty, right? You're changing from no periods and the hormones are quiet because you're a child into adolescence where now your cycles are starting. That goes on and you have babies or you don't have babies. And then you go through another transition where the ovaries quiet down again. So it's just that down slope of the hormonal lifespan. And the tricky part is just like puberty, right? If you think about puberty, if you have a daughter, you might notice they get little armpit hairs or get little, you know, changes in body odor, or maybe a little bit of skin changes before their period ever starts.
1:56unknown host:It's the same thing. Like when is the start of puberty? There's not like a day and there's not really a test that you would do. You start noticing things in your child and you start seeing like, okay, I think we're moving along. It's exactly the same thing with perimenopause. We like things to play by the rules and perimenopause doesn't play by any rules. It's just a transition state. Now I like to think of perimenopause in four phases, and these are all loosey-goosey, so you can't put a timer on these. But for most women around their mid to late thirties, you'll enter the first phase of this transition called perimenopause, where the ovaries start maybe running out of steam a little bit, starting to transition to menopause, which would be when your periods go away altogether.
2:35unknown host:So in that first phase of perimenopause, the progesterone starts to go down. This is a direct marker of how good we are at ovulating. And this is why fertility goes down around the same time. The other thing you'll see as this starts happening is maybe your sleep isn't quite as good, especially in the second half of your cycle. Maybe your periods are getting a little heavier or a little bit weirder. Maybe you're just feeling a little more irritable. The second phase of perimenopause is that transition in the 40s, maybe early 40s. And that's when then the estrogen actually goes up. And we don't talk about this enough, but as the estrogen starts to climb, now you've taken that progesterone estrogen dance that they're doing all through life.
3:17unknown host:And you're going in the opposite extremes, right? Progesterone is supposed to be nice and robust when we're having babies. And then it starts to fall. Estrogen is supposed to be there the whole time and not be too high. And it's going up. So you're going to the opposite extreme. And that's really where people start to feel pretty crappy. So you'll get really heavy periods, really heavy cramping. Sometimes the periods are closer together and annoying, or sometimes they start to space way out. Maybe you get breast tenderness. Maybe you get really emotional or depressed or moody. It's just kind of this chaos stage.
3:48unknown host:So in the third stage of perimenopause, that's when the estrogen starts to fall. And that's where you get the symptoms that we think of more classically and that we're hearing a lot about. Hot flashes, night sweats, brain fog, vaginal dryness, low sex drag, depressed mood, all of these things. you know, and we're hearing about like can't build muscle and you get frozen shoulder and ringing in the ears and heart palpitations. Those are all symptoms most of the time of estrogen deficiency. So probably you've been in perimenopause for a while before you start feeling that way. And then there's one magical day in time, which is called the menopause, the pause of menstruation, where you hit 12 months with no bleeding.
4:26unknown host:That is menopause that one day. And then after that, it's post-menopause. So perimenopause is this whole transition state that can last 10 years, 15 years. And that's why it makes sense. Now, as I say, there's no test for this, that how would I test? What would I even be testing for now? When someone comes in, they'll come in at age 47 and say, I don't know, maybe I'm in perimenopause. Yeah. Yeah, you are. You are in perimenopause somewhere along the road. 35, I don't know. I get patients coming in too in early thirties saying, I've heard this on the internet. I think I'm in perimenopause. Are you in perimenopause or do your ovaries need some support?
5:07unknown host:Like does your body need a tuna? So I don't care if someone's truly in perimenopause by some magical test. What I know is that in the late thirties, I know how to support you. In the early forties, I know how to support you late forties, early fifties, and so on. I, as a hormone expert should know how to support you differently through those different phases. So this idea of like, I'm perimenopausal and therefore I should get all the hormone replacement I can get. It's being blown out of proportion. I'm all for HRT. And I know you have a million questions for me about it. And it's a good thing, but it's not as straightforward as just like, Oh, you're feeling like your hormones are off.
5:47unknown host:Let's add testosterone and estrogen and progesterone. And then you'll feel all better. It's much more nuanced than that.
5:53Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:Yeah, because as you're talking about these different phases, that second phase when the estrogen is high, then you don't want to be on HRT.
6:00unknown host:Exactly. And that's what I see people coming in, especially estrogen HRT. Yeah. So adding estrogen to someone who is already high estrogen creates a little bit of chaos. And I've done it. I've done it. And sometimes I can't tell, right? Because to go back to your question of how do we test for it? I can test hormones. I can do a blood test anytime you want. And I know there are patients who get weird reactions from doctors like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. We never test hormones.
6:27Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:Test your hormones.
6:29unknown host:It's cheap. Oh, an estrogen test is less than$6. Like I will test it anytime you want to test it. Will it be helpful is the question. Interesting. Sometimes, sometimes not because our hormones are going in a cycle, right? So the first two weeks of the cycle look different hormonally from the second two weeks of the cycle. When you get into perimenopause, that's even more erratic. Maybe your cycle isn't playing by the rules where you get those nice normal curves. Maybe some days they're a little chaotic and erratic. So if we do blood tests, sometimes it can be helpful. And the way that I utilize that is to first take a history, understand their symptoms.
7:07unknown host:By the time I've talked to someone for 20 minutes, I have a pretty good idea of where they're at. If I add blood work to that, it either confirms it or it's unhelpful.
7:16Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:it could prove me wrong it's interesting okay so this goes back to when i was introducing you saying that you were an ob-gyn but now doing functional medicine health so a lot of people are going to ob-gyns for perimenopause menopausal health they don't have 20 minutes to sit there with them to get their whole back history yeah and so do you suggest people find a functional
7:40unknown host:medicine doctor for this health or where do they go for this health this is such a tricky question And what I will say is there's no set black and white answer here. There are some really wonderful OBGYNs. I will also say that the vast majority of OBGYNs really mean, well, we were not trained in this. This is not something I received training in. In my residency, we had one rotation in menopause care, which was more than most people. And it was because one of my attendings was passionate about this because she was in her fifties and going through it. So she had a menopause clinic and we got to rotate with her for, I think, six weeks.
8:17unknown host:And that was really helpful to me. And that's way more than the vast majority of OBGYNs get. So there are some OBGYNs out there who know a little more and who want to spend the time. There are also OBGYNs who have zero training in this or very minimal training or very old training. And so it's all over the map. What I will say is I never think it's a bad idea. If you have insurance, you've met your deductible, it's kind of a free visit for you. You want to go try it out. Great. Do that. Go knowing kind of what you're feeling. I would go organized. I would make yourself a list and I would try to make it as easy for them as possible.
8:58unknown host:And this isn't how it should be. This isn't how I operate now. But in that system, you know that that OBGYN has three patients in labor. they've got you know a patient who's having pregnancy complications that they need to slow down and really be there for they're going to want to rush through your visit because you're the easy patient of the ai now i'm not saying you should do that i run a cash-based clinic where i have 45 minute visits for this reason but let's just stay with this can my conventional ob-g right help me go organized know your stuff have a pretty clear idea of what you're wanting to try and try to deliver that as quickly and cleanly and calmly as you can.
9:35unknown host:Oh, that's a good idea. And an OBGYN who understands this, you're going to be her favorite patient. And she's going to say, sure, let's start with progesterone. Sure, let's start with estrogen. Let's start with progesterone. Come back in two months and then we'll talk progesterone or estrogen. Let's come back in two months and then let's talk testosterone. You're going to make it so easy for them. Now, if you go to that visit and you start hearing things that should raise red flags, like women don't ever need bioidentical progesterone or bioidentical hormones or a marketing term, or, oh, I never prescribed testosterone for women.
10:09unknown host:You can say, thank you so much for your time.
10:11Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:And then you can also, yeah, so there are some OBGYNs you'll be fine with.
10:16unknown host:Okay.
10:17Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:So let's help these women be informed when they go to their doctor then. And so being 50 years old, I'll just tell everybody I'm still in perimenopause, but I have definitely felt the times of high estrogen. Yeah. And definitely felt the time of low estrogen. So maybe let's distinguish like, what's the difference? How can someone tell if they're
10:37unknown host:high estrogen or low estrogen? So first thing, high estrogen can feel like low progesterone. And we don't really need to distinguish that too much, but that that's all in the same camp. So that's that earlier phase of perimenopause. And what that feels like is everything gets more. so more breast tenderness more bleeding more pain more acne more uh emotional yes exactly more reactivity like i'm super irritable but also i'm super sad when you said that right i just feel a little bit like a crazy person more fat around the stomach and maybe sometimes that's more with loss of estrogen because the loss of estrogen causes fat deposition to change a lot.
11:19unknown host:And I will also say estrogen is our feminine hormone. So when it's in balance, we get little curves. We maybe get breast enlargement. We maybe feel feminine. You know, maybe your sex drive is going pretty well. Maybe you feel a little weepy at a really lovely movie, right? Turn that volume up and you'll get high estrogen. It's like now I'm crying at every commercial out there. And I don't think sex drive necessarily goes raging in this state, but like we just feel a little bit much okay the downward effect of that as the estrogen falls off is more hollowed out i i think of it especially with testosterone which we'll come back to but this like black and white living where it's like i used to be like fun i used to be colorful and vibrant and like a good partner to my husband and now i'm done then i am i faded away i'm washed up so that's when everything goes less less bleeding so maybe periods are spacing out or or that doesn't always play by the rules.
12:15unknown host:Maybe breasts are starting to sag or get smaller, a little sex drive, vaginal dryness. It's a little harder to get to orgasm when we're having sex. Everything at our mood tank, so lower mood, trouble sleeping. It's where everything kind of feels all about.
12:32Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:Which is crazy that women have to go through all of this. Yes, yes, that is true. Yeah. Okay, so a couple more questions about this. So on Instagram or social media, I see a lot of people that will be like, oh, I'm dealing with depression. So it must be perimenopause. And I'm thinking, or maybe you need some B vitamins or maybe your gut's a mess. Or I see this one a lot of like, oh my gosh, my joints are just aching all the time. So I must be in perimenopause. And I'm like, or you're dealing with so much inflammation and need to change your diet and deal with inflammation. Or it could be perimenopause.
13:06unknown host:Like I feel like perimenopause is being the excuse for everything. I love this question so much. And it's something I'm so passionate about. And one of the things our clinic does differently that we get a lot of pushback from patients on is it's never just about hormones. It's always about, yes, we do a lot of HRT. Fine. But I don't want you leaving my office only having talked about what's your testosterone level, here's your prescription, because that's not enough. And here's why. When we're going through life, our hormones are going through this nice rhythm, everything's working well in a perfect situation.
13:40unknown host:Those hormones are a buffer for many, many things. Our mental health, our physical health, our energy, our skeletal muscle system. The hormones are an amazing buffer. They really let us get away with so much. This is why women in their twenties, when they go to college, they can take terrible care of themselves and they get away with so much, right? When we go through perimenopause and those hormones start getting erratic. And especially as they start falling, the progesterone starts to fall, testosterone, estrogen, we don't get away with much anymore. And that's why there often feels like this tipping point of what on earth is happening to my body.
14:17unknown host:It is absolutely falling apart because the estrogen was keeping you intact. It was allowing you to get away with things. And as the estrogen goes away, you're not getting away with it. But does that mean the estrogen is the problem. No, I think of it like dominoes. If you line up a row of dominoes and you have something tip over the dominoes, you can stop tipping over the dominoes, but then you have to go sit them back up. Does that make sense? So estrogen could be the final trigger. The drop in estrogen could be the thing that tips over the dominoes, but adding estrogen doesn't tip up the dominoes.
14:50unknown host:So think of this with weight gain. We see this a lot as estrogen goes down. People will say this all day, every day to me, I'm doing exactly the same thing that I've always done. And I'm gaining weight. What's this about? Well, so is that due to estrogen? Yeah. Yeah. That's a big part of it. Estrogen causes your fat to be deposited in feminine areas, like your hips and breasts. And when that estrogen goes down, if you have fat, then it's going to be in your midsection instead. But guess what? If you add estrogen, it often does plateau the weight gain. People will say, oh, finally, I was a runaway train and it stopped.
15:22unknown host:But that's not the end of the story. It doesn't cause weight loss. It doesn't make you magically lose the effect of what was happening. So it's never adequate just to add HRT. We always have to go back and build up the whole system. If you want to feel great, some people get really lucky and they add HRT. They feel like a million bucks. Not usually, not usually. If you really want to feel amazing, we should take care of your body. And hormones are one tiny part of that. They're a very important part of that, but they're one tiny part. And I'll add one more part of this because this does not get talked about enough.
15:57unknown host:Hormones and the idea of cancer, right? Hormones and the idea of could hormones cause bad problems for me? This is a real messy answer. And I think it's getting oversimplified in the media right now of hormones are good for you. They'll never cause you any problems. The more, the better. If you are not good at taking care of your hormones, if your body's not good at processing hormones and you're now menopausal and I'm giving you HRT, how are you processing better all of a sudden? Like now that you're in your fifties and I'm giving you exogenous hormones, you're going to process them better. No.
16:30unknown host:If you had a liver problem before, if you had a gut problem before, if you had a brain problem and nutrient deficiency before, that's not getting better because we just gave you hormones. And that I think is where we do see some complications with HRT is if you take HRT and put it into an imperfect system. Is that okay? We haven't done those studies.
16:52Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:We don't know that. So you're saying to stack those dominoes back up, you're talking things like diet, sleep, exercise, like all the things that I try to teach about and you try to teach about. Is that what you're referring to?
17:05unknown host:100%. And one of the things I see is patients come in and they say like, I want to feel so good. And we say, great. We need to talk about food and movement and all these things and the HRT and they get HRT and they go very often. They end up coming back saying that the hormones were working for a while. I felt so good. What happened? Can I get more? And that's not, it's not how I do things. I don't think that's how we should be doing things just to get more and more and more and more and more at some point. It's not your hormones. Just to your point, like I have depression, might hormones help?
17:36unknown host:Yeah, they might.
17:38Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:But so the vitamins might help
17:40unknown host:as well. It depends. Are you B vitamin deficient? Is your gut absorbing B vitamins? Are you eating B vitamins? What is your B vitamin level? There's so much more we can do to support the body in addition to HRT. Okay.
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17:54Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:So to me, it sounds like you're very supportive of HRT as a tool in the toolbox and to feel healthy. We all have this toolbox of good food. And like I said, the controlling our stress diet exercise sleep you got it and if we're doing all those things right and still feeling off then hrt can be a supportive tool to our help absolutely yeah absolutely we always say that in menopause you can't really be in menopause i have to say in
18:22unknown host:post menopause and you don't say in the post menopausal you could say i'm in the post menopausal phase or i am post menopausal no one says that we always just say in menopause no one will fight do on it like it's fun it's just how we learn to say even though menopause is only one day it's a medical definition okay post menopause and women are like no i don't want to take hrt like i feel
18:42Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:okay i don't want to take hrt but then the other side will say but actually being really low on estrogen is harmful even for like the heart or the muscles or all sorts of things and actually i heard two ladies the other day arguing over this yeah so do all people in post menopause
18:58unknown host:need estrogen or not necessarily? This is such an important question because we don't know. We don't know this. We do have good studies supporting the use of estrogen. And here's the way that I tell my patients is there's good studies showing, for example, with the addition of estrogen, a decrease in all cause mortality. That's good. I want to die of everything less. I should add estrogen. The timeframe matters. So adding it earlier seems to have a better benefit than adding it late. And that's in terms of bone health, cardiovascular health, probably breast cancer, dementia. There's both sides.
19:34unknown host:Dementia is a really unclear space right now.
19:36Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:So maybe,
19:37unknown host:and if estrogen is helpful, then earlier is probably better. So here's where my hippie self has a little bit of a mixed opinion. So I love the idea of supporting our bodies naturally with what we do, right? Get enough sleep and eat the right nourishing foods and manage your stress. I believe in that deeply. So how does that relate then to we now believe that all women should come to me and get between two and four prescriptions that are that have a cost to them. They're not paid for by insurance frequently. They're a little expensive for some people. And now they're supposed to stay on four prescriptions throughout their whole life.
20:11unknown host:There's something that rubs me the wrong way about that. And I do it. And the data does support it. And I'm happy about it, that we have that as a tool. But I just think we have an incomplete story. I do have a belief that the better we're taking care of our bodies, the better the aging transition goes. That makes sense, right? I mean, name one part of your body that if you don't take care of it, that it does great. You know, we have to take care of our bodies. So I just like to acknowledge that there is a little bit of a disconnect. We have the holistic now and medical community saying adding exogenous hormones are the way to go.
20:46unknown host:And that is where the, what the data is showing. And it is what I do, but I also think there's so much to be said for supporting our body's natural aging processes, the best ways we know how many.
20:57Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:So maybe those two ladies I was talking about were both right in their own way. Exactly. Why do you didn't want estrogen? She has lived the most healthy lifestyle for the 40 years I've known her. Right. And so, and the other one, yeah, she's saying something, right? That women need estrogen, but there's truth to both sides.
21:14unknown host:Yes. So for example, bone health, bone health, we know benefits from estrogen, but what else benefits bone health? Adequate dietary calcium intake, adequate vitamin D, weight bearing, load bearing exercises on our bones. So when we do studies in Western medicine, we can't do a good study with multiple variables. It's science, right? Like if you have three variables. You can't study that very well. So Western medicine likes to have one variable. So they take the whole population and they say, what if we give you estrogen and we don't give you estrogen? And that's the data that we come up with. And it's no one's fault.
21:49unknown host:It's just the difficulty of science, right? But what if we took a study and we studied the hippiest people we could find? Like they've been living the healthiest lifestyles their whole lives. They live out in the woods and they grow their own food and they don't watch the news. So they're not stressed. What about those guys? Do they need estrogen? We don't know. We don't have that study. We'll never have that study. And that's why I don't, as a practitioner, I don't like to be super dogmatic. I think we should try to take care of ourselves the best ways we can for the state we're in. For some people, taking the best care of our bodies is not accessible to them.
22:24unknown host:Maybe they have to fix stuff first. But we should take the best care of our bodies we can. And then I'm really glad we have extra supports and tools, supplements, medications to help us get through life and feel the best we can. So if someone feels amazing, am I going to shove estrogen at them? No, I'm going to tell them the data we have with the limitations and let them decide for themselves. And if someone feels like trash, then I'm going to tell them the data that we have, tell them their options and let them decide for themselves, acknowledging that there are things we don't know about HRT and we're all just doing the best we can.
22:56unknown host:Love that.
22:57Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:Okay. So So one other question about HRT is you hear different things out there. Some are like, you can't take estrogen without progesterone, or you have to take testosterone with this. I mean, all these different combinations. So do we have to take certain things with other hormones or can they be done individually?
23:16unknown host:There's one given. You cannot have estrogen without progesterone because estrogen is our proliferative hormone. It's our growing hormone. It's get ready to have a baby. It makes hormones upregulate and grow bigger and bigger. Progesterone is its counterpart that says, we're good now. Settle on now. Go ahead and release, shed the lining, right? Have a period. And if you only have estrogen, this is, there should be no argument here. If you only have estrogen, proliferation goes and goes and goes until you get couples. Cancers. That's a given. You shouldn't argue with that one. Everything else. Could you have progesterone without estrogen?
23:49unknown host:Probably. Yeah. Could you have testosterone alone? Absolutely. Could you do any combination otherwise? Yeah. Okay. Talking testosterone, that's another trendy one.
23:57Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:And for women, I'm hearing a lot of women are claiming it as their cure-all to all of their problems.
24:04unknown host:What do you think of that? Yeah, I mean, we know that testosterone goes down as we age. And testosterone is actually one that we can test pretty well through a blood test. It's cheap and easy. So I like to see a testosterone on most of my patients. Because if a testosterone is super low in someone who's like 28 and I see that, that's not perimenopause. That's a sign of wear and tear in your body. That's a sign of stress and strain that your body is saying, I'm not going to contribute to hormones and testosterone. I got to survive. So that's one of the cues that I see when I have an unreasonably low testosterone that someone is struggling, whether that's inflammation or toxicity or stress.
24:43unknown host:It's something that I can point at and say, you should not have a testosterone level this low. Can I give them testosterone? Maybe. In younger folks, we don't have very much data or any real significant data on giving testosterone. So I am always going to want to support the body naturally before we do that. But we do know that it goes down through stress and strain and age. So if I have a 57 year old who says, you know what, I'm exhausted. I have no sex drive. I I've been trying to go to the gym and build muscle and I just, I'm not getting anywhere. And we test their testosterone and it's undetectable.
25:16unknown host:They're probably going to do really well with testosterone. But I will say in my practice, I would say about 70 % of women that I feel pretty strongly that testosterone is going to help them. I would say about 70 % of them do feel way better. 30 to even up to 50%, I would say don't. So it's not the cure all for everyone. And that can leave frustrated patients that are like, wait, my girlfriend's all said this was going to make me feel like a million bucks. I've taken it. I don't feel anything. Yeah. Sometimes it doesn't. Well, then those other dominoes maybe need to go back up. Yep. Okay. Are you talking testosterone cream pellets?
25:52unknown host:Yeah, I don't do a lot of pellets. I don't do pellets for the main reason that pellets overdose to start with. You get a big whopping dose and then it slowly degrades in your skin, right? You actually embed little pellets of medicine into your head and they just slowly degrade over time. I don't love the overdosing because people can have negative side effects. And once they're in there, they're in there. So I take care of a lot of people who have complications after pellets. I will do just about anything else though, a cream, a gel, a shot. Sometimes you do vaginal inserts or a vaginal cream.
26:24unknown host:So there's lots of different ways we do it. And it's nuanced. It depends on what we're trying to do and what you feel and how you feel with them.
26:30Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:So testosterone decreases as we age. So most people post menopause, well, I shouldn't say most people, but.
26:38unknown host:I will say there's a lot of wiggle room there. So I test testosterone levels on most of my patients. And I get women in their late twenties and early thirties with undetectable levels. And I get some 60 year olds who have great testosterone levels. And so I really do think testosterone can be a really good marker of stress and strain. It also does go down as you're aging. So I don't know what percentage of 80 year old women have awesome testosterone levels. It does go down as you age. Okay. So good to know. Let's take a quick break to hear from our show sponsor.
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28:21unknown host:Now back to the show.
28:25Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:all right i have so many more questions that i'm going to move on okay to the next topic let's talk i had a lot of people ask about annual screenings meaning pap smears and mammograms and
28:37unknown host:the alternative options that are out there yeah what are your thoughts on all of this it's complicated and it is nuanced the first thing that i would say is you have to understand what your risk tolerance is, what risk you're taking on yourself. So let's use mammogram as an example, because that comes up a lot, right? Mammograms are imperfect. I don't know anyone who would truthfully argue that. Mammograms find stuff that isn't anything that cause a lot of worry. It's radiation exposure a little bit, but it's still radiation exposure. And we're now saying kind of willy nilly, like make sure you get these every single year.
29:13unknown host:Now those guidelines have changed a little bit. They now say 40 to 45. They say every year or every other year, depending on your family history and your risk. But anyone who's making a decision about this needs to understand that if you're not doing mammograms, you're taking on some risk based on the data that we have. If you are doing mammograms, still a little bit of risk. And that's the hard part of science that we're in is there is no perfect way to go about it. There are other breastfeeding modalities. There's breast thermography. It has some great sides about it. It doesn't have radiation.
29:48unknown host:It's very easy. It's not as painful, but it doesn't do as good of a job at catching early cancers is what the data shows. So when people come to me and they say, I'm only doing breast thermography, I will give them the data that we have, and then I will respect their decision. But you just have to recognize that you may be taking a little bit of risk based on what we know. But I also think from the dogma of the medical community, there's a little bit of risk there with mammograms too. Just, you know, mammograms are not perfect. They're missing stuff frequently. We just don't have a perfect solution.
30:20unknown host:There's also QT imaging. That's the acoustic imaging. There's only a few centers around the United States that have this, where you lay on a table with a hole in it and your breast goes into water. The sound waves travel through the breast tissue to map out any lesions. And that's the one I'm the most excited about. But right now it's pretty expensive and really limited, but it's comfortable and very safe, no radiation.
30:41Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:so not a perfect choice out there everybody has to figure out their own risk and hopefully
30:48unknown host:science will provide something better over the years yep and we can't take away the ideas of what you're talking about is and let's do everything we can to minimize our breast cancer risk yeah right like that's alcohol and that's maintaining healthy body weight maintaining healthy blood sugar like there are things that we can be doing it's not just about i made a decision to screen and I'm, I'm, you know, I'm not going to do mammograms because those have radiation. Are you only doing that? Or are you also taking really good care of your body to decrease your risk that way? It's very different.
31:19unknown host:So I would say that when we're talking about annual screening, it's a little bit of an imperfect science. We're all doing the best we can. And if you follow the set guidelines, I think they're okay. I think they're pretty good. Mammogram, I would say, is probably one of the more controversial because of radiation exposure, but a lot of the other annual screening goes well. Now in my clinic, we do this in a way that I'm really proud of. And in a different way, we do an annual exam that includes a physical exam, but it also includes a comprehensive lab evaluation that are kind of the bread and butter for me.
31:48unknown host:So I want to see blood sugar markers every year, extensive blood sugar markers. So insurance will only pay for a hemoglobin A1C. That's a lab test that is a diabetes marker, but I want to know your fasting insulin. I want to know your triglycerides. I want to know your ratio of triglycerides to HDL, which is your good cholesterol. I want to know your fasting blood sugar. I want to know your uric acid. These are all things that help me understand how well you're fueling, how steadily you're fueling, how well your body is taking up energy. I care about that so much because that's what prevents a cancer.
32:18unknown host:So instead of only screening for the cancer, there's a set amount of lab work that I want to see on you every year. So that's part one is we do a comprehensive lab test. We also do a full conversation of what I call six pillars and the habits that go along with those six pillars. you could name these six pillars, right? Nourishment, movement, sleep, stress recovery and stress management, gut health, detox. So I wanna go through that every year with you and say, let's really talk about your food. Where is there an area that we can improve? Now, if we combine lab testing with those habits, then I can tell you, yes, you're doing pretty well, but we could do a little better and you'll get more benefit if you might feel well.
32:58unknown host:I won't say, I think patients like the idea of this type of annual exam, Let me do a physical. They like the idea of it, but it's effort. It's commitment. You have to decide that this matters to you. You have to decide that you're willing to spend the time and the money to come talk about your habits and then be open to changing them. And people sometimes think that's what they want, but they don't go through like that whole commitment process internally. And then they'll be like, nah, that's too hard. And that I get it, but it makes me a little sad because there's so much opportunity there. When we're talking about an annual wellness visit, like you want to go to the doctor every year so you can live your healthiest life possible.
33:36unknown host:It is about so much more than did you get your colonoscopy every 10 years. That takes me three seconds. Go get your colonoscopy or here's the other options. But I want to talk to you so much more about how we can help you live your healthiest life possible.
33:49Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:I love that. And a lot of doctors don't do that, but that's such a great option to think about. Like, it's just not the mammogram or the thermography. It's also the lab work of seeing your blood sugar, oops, your blood sugar
34:01unknown host:levels and you know, if you're vitamin D and your inflammatory markers, and you know, there's so many key pro or, um, there's so many key lab markers that are so valuable. That lab panel costs about a hundred dollars. I'm not talking about a thousand dollars worth of labs here, but if you go to a lot of conventionally trained doctors, insurance will pay for them. So they say, Oh no, no, no, you don't need that. Insurance said we don't need that.
34:24Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:Since when do we want insurance brokers to
34:27unknown host:decide what we don't need. Like forget about insurance. If I can give it to you at a reasonable price, then we should be doing that. Like just because insurance doesn't pay for it is not the right logic we should be using for anything. Right. Okay. So really quick pap smears then, same philosophy. Pap smear guidelines have changed. If you're low risk, you've never had an abnormal pap smear. You're in a monogamous relationship. No new exposures every five years is reasonable. I think having someone do an exam, a physical exam more often than that is a good idea. Any symptoms at all, any new sexual partner, you should have a more updated pap smears.
35:04unknown host:You know, pap smears are getting a bad rap out there on social media, though. I do. And I kind of think, I mean, this goes to my philosophy overall. And I'm proud of my philosophy because I was trained in conventional medicine. And now I'm trained in holistic, functional, integrative medicine. And so I'm really proud of the patient base that I attract, which is a lot of everyday normal people trying to get by, trying to do the best they can while holding down a job and raising kids and doing all these things and not becoming full on scientists and experts in every chemical and every little thing.
35:36unknown host:Right. Right. So my job is to manage fear in large part. And I think that we live in a toxic world and we could all make ourselves absolutely insane by trying to find every tiny thing that is bad for us. But you know what I think we should do? I think we should eat more broccoli. You know, I think we should sweat. I think we should drink a lot of water and I'm not making light of it because we do want to take good care of our bodies. But I think if we spend so much time on the friction of like, don't do that, that's dangerous. Don't do that. That's bad for you. Don't do that. Do you know, a pap smear is a plastic swab.
36:14It is a piece of plastic that I touch against your cervix.
36:18unknown host:That is it. There's no formaldehyde on it. It is a blank, it's not even sterile. It's just a piece of plastic. Interesting, because people out there are claiming differently. No, I mean, I've done. I know you've done it. Hundreds of thousands of pap smears. It is a piece of plastic I pull out of the drawer. Now I will walk you through the whole thing. I ask very gently. There's trauma involved, right? I have to, I go very slowly. I'll say, you'll feel my touch on your thigh before I touch anything. And then I touch the labia and I put a little bit of KY jelly or medical grade full of grossness gel.
36:52unknown host:I put that on a plastic or a metal speculum. The metal's been sterilized. the plastic are are clean that goes in the vagina and then i take a piece of plastic and i swab it around that is the entire cap smear so the only part of that i think you can really argue about is microplastics you know we get way more microplastics especially if you're doing it once every five years you're going to handle plastic touching your skin you know once every five years you could argue the gel and you know what you could do if you're worried about the gel you can bring your tube of coconut with you there you go and say do you mind using this instead but there is no toxic chemical that is applied from that piece of plastic good i get i get excited i get passionate well no i'm glad i should take that one off of our
37:35Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:worry list okay that is good because you know instagram people tiktok people they love to
37:42unknown host:just blow things up out of proportion because that's what gets them viewership that's true scare and fear tactics work it's true and do you know what that does is it massively dysregulates your nervous system, which is the number one worst thing you can do for your health. So instead of worrying too much, we should do what we can. We should learn. And this is, I will compliment you. This is one of the things I love about following your account and using your products is I don't have to be afraid. I just know, like I used to, I don't have to read the label because I know you did. And that's one of the ways that I can help regulate my nervous system and say, like, I cannot panic about everything that I put in my body.
38:19unknown host:I can go for a walk. I can do some breath work. I can turn off social media. And I do think our health would be better than agonizing over every tiny decision along the way. I don't think that's helping us.
38:32Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:I agree. And I think you nailed it on the spot by saying it gets engagement on people's posts and it makes people fear over unnecessary things.
38:40unknown host:Yep.
38:41Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:Okay. So moving on to a new topic, because I had a lot of people asking about pregnancy and postpartum, obviously I've got all ranges of women listening to this podcast. So let's talk about before getting pregnant. Are there specific tests or labs that people should do before trying to conceive?
38:58unknown host:Yes. And this is another thing I'm really excited about that we do in our clinic is a preconception visit. Have you ever heard of a preconception visit? No, no. Why don't we do this? Why don't we? I don't know. Data says that there's nothing really to do. So when I was in school, we learned about preconception counseling and it was about genetic testing for cystic fibrosis. I didn't get trained in anything about how to prep the body for pregnancy. And it's one of the most important things we can do. And here's why people don't think about this enough. Like, of course, it makes sense that if you are a healthy body before you conceive, you're going to be a healthier pregnant body, right?
39:34Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:Right.
39:34unknown host:Could you argue that at all? The other part of that that we think about is if you are a healthier body before you conceive and you're healthier through pregnancy, you're going to be healthier postpartum. That's a really big deal because you know what? Now you have a kid who's relying on you. And what I see so often, I get really excited. So I'm sorry if I'm bringing, you know, I'm urgent here, but I get so passionate about it because I see so many patients who come in after their third baby or their fourth baby or their fifth baby. And they say, I was fine until I had X number baby. And I've never been the same since.
40:08unknown host:And for some people, it's 10, 20 years later that they say, I've never been the same since. So just think about what's happening. You take a body that may not be in its very best state of health. You get pregnant. Pregnant takes away from our health. It does. That's just, it's wear and tear on the maternal body. And then maybe we recover some, but not all the way. And then you have another baby, which drops you further. And then you recover a little bit, but you have another baby that drops you further. And now you've got three kids. So how are you supposed to eat well? And how are you supposed to exercise?
40:37unknown host:And how on earth are we supposed to keep our stress intact? I say this as the mom and four kids. It's rough going as a mom. And the sleep is hard. So we should be doing everything we can to prepare our bodies for pregnancy. We shouldn't be waiting until we have infertility. We shouldn't be waiting until we have multiple discarriages. We shouldn't be waiting until we have a pregnancy complication or a postpartum complication. Let's do it first. And the reason I feel so excited about this is it's not that hard. It's a matter of telling people, how much protein are you eating? How many colorful fruits and vegetables are you eating?
41:13unknown host:How many nuts and seeds? How many, do they say vegetables? How much sleep? And then we do a lab panel that's very similar to what we do for the annual wellness. Although we do like a testosterone level and a couple other wellness ones. And we're saying these ones help moms be healthier and feel better. Who doesn't want that? I wish someone would have done this for me. Now, a funny story about that. I just had my fourth baby. I'm 44. It was not planned, which yes, as an OB, I should know better, but we've had infertility my entire childbearing years. So what have I done the last few years? I've taken really good care of myself.
41:49unknown host:I've worked really hard to learn how to take care of myself. And I did this preconception lab panel that I did not know was a preconception lab panel. I was just taking good care of myself and I fixed those things and ended up pregnant at 44. Wow. But it was, it was a wonderful, healthy pregnancy. And I, I, it was the hardest pregnancy. Don't get me wrong. Like it was harder at 44 than it was at 35. Sure. But I bounced back so quickly. I've now four months postpartum. I feel like a million bucks. Like I'm not just saying that I'm shocked by that. I feel so good. I can. And it took me time and I had to take steps and figure out how to get back to this point.
42:25unknown host:So it wasn't day one that I was like running and exercising. Right. But I knew what to do to get back. And that's what, that's what we should be doing. That's what's possible. We should not be in these giant slumps postpartum. And that starts with preconception.
42:38Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:That is so interesting because a lot of people do deal with postpartum. Yes. And congrats, by the way, on your baby. And I can't believe the baby's only four months and you're back to podcasting and back to your clinic.
42:51unknown host:Well, there's a, there's an argument against that. Like I should regulate my nervous system and be home more, but we're working well at balance. but yes, trying to balance. That's right.
42:59Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:All right. So a lot of people don't do, do deal with postpartum. So what are your tips and suggestions, especially those that didn't take care of their health beforehand or didn't even do these preconception labs? What advice do you give them?
43:11unknown host:There's a lot we don't understand about postpartum, but postpartum depression is what we're talking about. But one thing we do understand is that the postpartum transition is a state of depletion. You've just given up everything. You've just spent nine months, 10 months, giving everything to your baby. So one of the first things I do if I'm taking a patient who's just newly postpartum, I like to do it before then, but if I'm taking someone who's coming to me with postpartum depression, I want to know all their levels. Are you iron deficient? Are you vitamin D deficient? Are you B vitamin deficient?
43:40unknown host:What are your blood sugars doing? We have to make sure we prop you up at the very least. I also want to know about hormones. Hormones are tricky in postpartum because they do tank and they should because they can't stay at pregnancy levels forever. And some people are just sensitive to that transition. Sometimes we can nudge it up with hormone therapy. So taking hormones, there are some medications that sometimes we do get in a bind. And the most important thing is we get you feeling better. So as much as we want to do that without medications, we just have to get you to a safe place and get you feeling better because postpartum is not the best time to be like, well, are you exercising five days a week, you know, like we can't do that.
44:18unknown host:So sometimes we do have to use medications just to, I call it duct taping. And we got to duct tape you together for now. And I'll get you off of them. I will help you get off of them, but we have to keep you safe and we have to get you feeling better. And then there's some lifestyle things that are really important. Leave your home. People get in this cave mode and they don't leave their house because it's so difficult, but can you go out onto your porch? Can you just see natural daylight once a day, three times a day. Can you move your body a little bit? Even if you're not doing a routine, open up your body, get your arms swinging around.
44:51unknown host:That blood flow gets so stagnant when you breast feed a baby and I have my legs crossed, my arms crossed, and I'm breastfeeding a baby, and my whole body turns into this melty schlump and it feels so bad and so achy and everything starts to compound. So as we just move our bodies, we start to get these good endorphins going again. So we have to take all these little steps without asking too much of our minds. We have to take these little steps to support the body. And if there's anything that we as people who are not postpartum can do to support, it's bring them vegetables, colors, protein, fats.
45:26unknown host:Can we bring them really great foods so they can just get their body working? We have to recognize that the body is a machine that needs stuff. You can't expect your car to run without gas. You can't expect your body to run without fuel. So I know you're craving prepped french fries and you should eat those french fries if that's going to make you happy, but also eat the peas and the green beans and the broccoli. I love that. Okay.
45:50Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:This is another trendy thing out there that I want to ask you really quick. Have you been seeing the things out there about folic acid in the prenatal versus the
45:58unknown host:folate and that is the folic acid maybe causing postpartum issues to those that have the MTHFR gene? I've seen both sides and I honestly don't know what the answer is, except preconception testing a homocysteine level. It won't tell you whether your MTHFR gene mutation is present, but it will tell you how you're methylating. So if you have MTHFR gene mutation and you need more methylated B vitamins, your homocysteine and your B, mostly homocysteine will tell you that. So if you are on a prenatal and you get a homocysteine level and it's low, you should probably be on the methylated B vitamin. Like you should do that.
46:36unknown host:Other than that, we don't know because you can make the same argument that the studies show that folic acid is what prevents neural tube defects, not folate. That doesn't make very much sense to me, but that's what the data shows. So I think at fair minimum, test your homocysteine before pregnancy. Understand that you're methylating. you've got the right B vitamins before it's the best we can do right now.
46:58Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:I'm going to ask you one other thing that a lot of people ask about, and that is newborn care. So these moms are so worried about newborn care, meaning in the hospital, like the delayed court clamping, the vitamin K, the first bath, all these things to the point that I'm like, Oh my gosh, I'm glad I'm done with having six kids. They're confused out there.
47:18unknown host:So what do you say to that? I would say the very best newborn care that you can give your baby is to love that baby and to be a safe place for your baby. That's going to make me cry. It's your job to be the safe place for your baby, number one. And so it depends on where you're at. If trying to make these decisions is causing you to panic and shut down and have depression and anxiety, you got to do something different. So rely on someone else to make the decisions or just let some of those go because you need to be the safe energy. I, this is again, my hippie side coming out. Our babies feel us that I know it.
47:53unknown host:They feel our energy. They feel our vibration. They feel our vibe and you get to snuggle that baby. It's the very best thing you can do. So if you can't decide whether to get vitamin K or not to get vitamin K, snuggle that baby, right? Like you can do that. So my perfect game plan and what I have done with my children is number one, can you get that skin to skin right away? The more you can get that baby onto you, the better. Delayed cord clamping, absolutely. If your baby's not doing well, then you got to make an exception and the baby needs the support they get. But the more that you can be calm and slow your breathing and be a state of safety during labor, the less you're going to be in a state of fight or flight.
48:31unknown host:And I do think it has outcomes on how your baby comes out. So the more you can be in a state of safety, the more you can get that baby skin to skin. Delayed cord clamping, sure, but don't lose sleep over it if that's not in the cards for you. Most doctors are pretty good about that now. And then keep that baby on you as much as you can manage. Don't panic if they need to take the baby for safety, but as much as you can, keep that baby on you. Dad can hold the baby later. That baby needs mom. Getting the baby in a position where they can look at you, keep your breast exposed to them. Don't worry about getting it in their mouth.
49:03unknown host:Just keep their mouth right next to your breast. Just you looking at them, talking them, rubbing them, snuggling them. It is the very most important thing you can do. More than the vitamin K, more than the cord clanded. You just snuggle them, look at them, touch them, let them be near your breast. And then you get them to the breast when you can. And then from there, I think it gets a little more complicated. I don't like to bathe them right away. And most hospitals don't do that anymore and don't need to do that. So if you have a say in it and you can voice that, like don't bathe the baby, they don't need to be bathe and it's good for them.
49:32unknown host:So I like to leave cord clanding. Now I'm a doctor. I see complications. I like the vitamin K. I know I'll get pushback from the holistic community but if you've ever seen a cranial bleed on a baby you want that vitamin k on board and you don't know until you don't until it's a problem so i say vitamin k erythromycin ointment is for chlamydia and gonorrhea um eye infection that can cause blindness so people will say like i know a thousand percent that i do not have chlamydia i don't know make your make your decision i i did not have chlamydia and i said i don't even want to think about it just just do it and I'll wipe it off later.
50:09unknown host:And I don't think it's that big of a deal that we need to be worrying about it really one way or the other is blindness. And that's as doctors, we say, let's not do blindness, right? So we're always going to say, let's be on the safe side and just do the ointment. But if you really feel passionate and you know, a thousand percent sure, then I don't think it's the biggest deal to skip.
50:30Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:Well, and I've heard you say something before, which I like you were
50:33unknown host:saying like, don't sweat the small stuff with low toxins, like worry about the bigger decisions, right? Exactly. And that's where, when you get your baby home, don't slather them with a bunch of weird lotions. Don't have plugins in your house. You know, don't put a bunch of stuff on the baby. Watch your laundry detergent. I think those are far bigger decisions for the baby than the one time tiny little thing. You know, now a one time big thing is a different conversation, but a one-time tiny thing you gotta protect your nervous system you gotta just embrace that baby and be there for your baby it's so much more fun well thank you so much for being here my listeners
51:10Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:are gonna be like wait you didn't ask my question because there's still so many questions but thank you for answering all the questions that you did sure um you are amazing doctor i wish thank you so many more were like you that looked at the functional medicine side of things more and more people are asking questions, wanting to know the root cause of their issues. And so it is coming. We always end the podcast by asking five fire rapid questions. And so here's the first one. What emerging health topic excites you the most?
51:39unknown host:MCAS probably. MCAS. But so many of them, but that's probably the big one. Tell me really quick what that is. Mass cell activation syndrome is an immune system overaction that causes the body to freak out about every little thing. So you get patients who are tired and they get rashes and they have period problems and they have gut problems and they have brain problems. And they're like, why am I so unlucky that I get all of these problems? You don't have all those problems. You have one problem. You have one thing. And especially in the gynecology world, it's really starting to tie some pieces together, like chronic vaginal pain and painful periods and ovulation issues and mental health issues around the cycle.
52:17unknown host:So many of them are all tangled up in histamine and massive cells.
52:21Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:We have help. Once we identify that, we can help. But there's it's starting to get a little more data. Interesting.
52:27unknown host:OK, number two, what is a piece of advice you'd give to your younger self? Oh, I so wish I wish I would have had someone to tell me what I know now when I was younger, because I spent years not feeling well. I was exhausted my entire life. I'm 45 now and I feel so good. and I think like what could I have done if I felt this good always right so I do that to my younger self and I would give that now and people don't wait feel good love that hey number three what's
52:59Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:the one health practice you'll never compromise on no matter how busy life gets I'll be honest
53:04unknown host:life has gotten busy and I've compromised on all of them at some point so I'll be honest and I think that's important to say, they're all going to be in flows. You got to have your toolkit and what works for you. So what I do know is when I struggle, I know exactly what tools I'm pulling out and that's nervous system regulation, either prayer or grounding or nature that sleep, that's movement, that's vegetables and protein. Love that. Okay. What's your favorite just ingredients product and why? I am a big just ingredients fan and have been for years. So I could go through the list, but the newest one is the bone broth protein.
53:39unknown host:All right.
53:40Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:Last one. What is the best
53:41unknown host:ingredient you've found to life? Oh, I will say right now release. Like I am in such a personal state of growth and such an exciting state for me of self-discovery and recognizing what I don't mean anymore. And it is so exciting to say, I don't need to hold onto that coping strategy that was keeping me safe from, you know, 15 years ago, but now it's just doing me hard. Like the more I can shed that and just step into like abundance and love and warmth and light is, I am just like on a high of stepping into that version of life instead of this constricted, constrained, you know, version. I just want to release it all.
54:28unknown host:Whatever's not serving me, it can go away. I don't need it anymore.
54:31Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:You know, I have done over 200 episodes and no one has ever said release. I love that thought though. Yeah. I am really going to just ponder on that today. I really like that. I love it. Yeah. Well, tell everybody where they can find you because people are going to want to learn from you and your podcast is amazing. Women, if you need a podcast or want a podcast to learn more from hers is amazing. So tell them where they can find you.
54:57unknown host:well our company is uplift for her and we the podcast is the same name the clinic is the same name the clinic is local in salt lake and we have a few practitioners we have a health coach we have a dietician we have a therapist and we have lots of people that can help in a lot of different ways so right now the in-person is our health care practitioners but our health coach and dietician are not just in person they can be virtual awesome thank you again for being here you
55:22Dr. Mallorie Cracroft:just are incredible thank you so much it's been such a pleasure Thank you for being here and being part of this community. Don't forget to subscribe to the Just Ingredients podcast. We've got so much more to share with you. And if you're not already, come join us daily on all social media platforms at just.ingredients. Until next time, keep choosing what nourishes you.
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Today I’m joined by Dr. Mallorie Cracroft, an OBGYN turned functional medicine expert. We talk about perimenopause, menopause, postpartum health, hormone balance, and what’s really happening in your body during these major transitions.
So many women are told that their symptoms are “normal” — but just because something is common doesn’t mean you have to suffer through it. Dr. Cracroft helps us break down what’s actually going on hormonally and how to support your body in a more holistic way.
In this episode, we talk about:
• The different phases of perimenopause and how to recognize the signs.• What hormone balance really means and when HRT may or may not be appropriate.• How to tell the difference between high estrogen and low estrogen symptoms — and why that distinction matters.• The role of lifestyle factors.• Annual screenings — including pap smears and mammograms — and understanding your options so you can make informed decisions.• Preconception health and important lab tests to consider before trying to conceive, so you can set yourself (and your future baby) up for the best possible start.
We also touch on postpartum health — a season that is often overlooked — and why ongoing hormone and nutrient support matters long after the six-week checkup.
If you’re navigating perimenopause, walking through menopause, thinking about getting pregnant, recently postpartum, or just wanting to better understand your hormones — this episode is for you.
Bio:
Dr. Mallorie Cracroft is a board-certified OB/GYN, integrative women’s health specialist, mom, wife, and busy woman—just like many of the women she cares for. After nearly 15 years of practicing in a traditional clinical setting, she founded Uplift For Her, a groundbreaking clinic in Salt Lake City that delivers integrated, whole-woman care. Her goal? To revolutionize what healthcare looks like for women who are tired of feeling dismissed or misdiagnosed.
At Uplift For Her, Dr. Cracroft leads a collaborative team of providers, dietitians, health coaches, and mental health professionals—all working together to provide individualized support that helps driven women feel well and stay well. Her approach is bold, entrepreneurial, and deeply evidence-based, blending the best of conventional and functional medicine to get to the root of symptoms and restore true wellness.
As a doctor and a woman navigating the same demands of life, Dr. Cracroft understands how hard it can be to build healthy habits while juggling everything else. But she also knows that when we don’t prioritize our health, everything else feels harder. That’s why she’s passionate about helping women understand how their bodies work and feel empowered to make the best decisions for themselves. Because when you feel your best, you can be your best.
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