Jessica Biel | with Trump-GOP Infighting Erupts, Kennedy Calls Trump an "A-hole," Trump Doxes Tom Cotton: A Closer Look

0:02President Trump traveled today to Grand Island, Nebraska, and had such a good time, he's calling it his second favorite island.

0:15Scallons! Scallons!

0:22From 30 Rockefeller Plaza in New York City, please enjoy this podcast edition of Late Night with Seth Meyers. On today's show, Seth talks to actress Jessica Biel. But first, a closer look.

0:40Donald Trump hit the campaign trail for Republicans who were panicking about the midterms, and in the process, he doxed one Republican and called another controversial. For more on this, it's time for a closer look.

0:54You guys, I know you think the president is a demented imbecile with oatmeal for brains. Your words, not mine. True story. An audience member said it right before we started taping. And hey, Kash Patel, if you want their name, I will give it to you in return for immunity. I cannot survive prison. Unless it's like a white-collar prison and it's only for a week, in which case I jump at the chance to have a break for my kids. Point is, I have bad news for Jeff in the fifth row. Trump is actually very smart. As he explained over the weekend at a campaign rally, It was supposed to be about the midterms I'm a high IQ person Unlike some other people I can tell you about Among the highest IQs anywhere in the world Then tell us the number, dog Because they do give you a number Unless, oh no, was yours on an app That you had to sign up and maybe even pay for?

1:49Mel? Mel, you're not going to believe it My IQ scored high, Mel The only thing is I have to buy some more Q coins to take another test. Can I have... What's the security code in your credit card, Mel? Because mine got blocked, Mel, because I bought too many Q coins. They're very expensive. Remember, this dude thinks he's a genius because he passed a dementia test where you have to tell the difference between a camel and a rhino. Although I'd love to see the actual hard copy of that one. Again, Trump's supposed to be helping Republicans get elected, but instead he seems obsessed with his own intelligence.

2:24And one piece of supporting evidence he cites to prove he's a genius is that his uncle taught at MIT. He even referenced it again in an interview with Time Magazine last week. Here's the transcript. I'm going to read the entire answer so we can all fully appreciate just how much of a genius the president is. Do you trust Sam Altman? I like him. Do I trust him? Who do I trust? I like Sam Altman. Smart. Dario's smart. They're all smart. We're dealing with a very high level of IQ. Very, very high level. That's a good thing. I like that. I like it. Did you see the story about my uncle? The one who taught at MIT?

3:02I have the highest IQs. I have the highest. I'm fine, and I understand that stuff. You know, my uncle was at MIT for 41 years, and, you know, I'm a... I believe in genetics, frankly, and I understand. I understand it much more than I think any president would because I do have an ability on this. Just once, just once I would love someone to ask a simple follow-up To this uncle story like What class did he teach? Or what does MIT stand for? Or spell Massachusetts But whatever The point is we're supposed to be talking about the midterms The issues that matter to Americans Like high prices or artificial intelligence Or the war with Iran Please, Mr.

3:43President, tell us Why we should give Republicans another chance The Democrats Now, their policy's so bad, I came up. I can't believe it took me nine years to come up with that one. That one, I don't know why. But it's very descriptive because their policy is so bad. The Democrats, you take the E out, replace it with a U, and the word dumb doesn't think of it. Most people don't know. Dumb. They all think that dumb doesn't have a B.

4:14Oh, yeah. He definitely can't spell Massachusetts. By the way, I also can't believe it took you nine years to come up with that. You know what took less time than that? The construction of the Burj Khalifa. That was built in six years. It took less time to build the tallest skyscraper in the world than it took you to figure out that the word dumb has a B in it. Again, Mr. President, can we please just get back on track? Polling is clear. People are focused on affordability, inflation, corruption, the economy, and the war in Iran. Can you please talk about any of that? The president has called out Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton, saying he's the reason a bill to end daylight saving time hasn't passed.

4:56The bill, supported by the president, would end changing clocks twice a year and has already made it through the House. We want to get away from this ridiculous way and custom of every twice a year, turning your clocks back, turning your clocks forward, being late for dinner, being late for very important meetings. It's ridiculous. Right now, we're sitting out here. It's light. It's nice. If you come down here in another three weeks, it'll be dark. It'll be — who wants it? People want to have light in the evening. But really, what they want more than that — more than that by a lot, they don't want to have to go around changing clocks.

5:38I have the same thing. last time, six months ago. We're changing clocks, and nobody changed their clocks, and everybody's late. It takes people... It discombobulates everybody. What are you talking about? Nobody changes their clocks anymore. Your phone, your computer, your cable box, even your car all do it automatically now. The only way you would be late for anything is if you've been using your stove as an alarm clock. Is that why you're always a mess? you've been sleeping on the floor by your stove, and it didn't go off at the right time. Or, more likely, my man, it's your internal clock that's up, because you're always awake at 4 a.m., posting AI slop on social media, and then falling asleep in broad daylight.

6:26I'm awake. I'm awake. It was the clocks. It was the clock. Do you believe me? You believe me, don't you, Marco? Oh, man. Marco's out of it, too. He's had that face ever since I told him dumb ends with B. Also, can we go back to this part? Right now, we're sitting out here. It's light. It's nice. If you come down here in another three weeks, it'll be dark. All right, now, first of all, it gets darker earlier because of the tilt of the Earth's axis, not because of the clocks. We don't just decide to make it dark earlier for no reason. Is that what you think is going on? You think the Democrats passed a law at some point to make it get darker in time for Halloween?

7:12The Democrats, they want it to be dark, so it's spooky. But if you vote GOP, we're going to banish the ghouls, the goblins, and the Draculas from our nation, even the one that follows me around. Second, why are you trying to explain the difference between daytime and nighttime? You sound like the first Neanderthal to emerge from the cave and discover the sun. When giant fireball appears, sky is light. When fireball go, ain't no more light. We love giant fireball, don't we, folk? The president's hyper-focused on passing a bill to make daylight saving time permanent. That's because he desperately needs a win, no matter how small.

7:53In fact, he needs it so badly, he's lashing out at fellow Republicans over it. On Saturday, President Trump posted Arkansas Republican Senator Tom Cotton's cell phone number because he objected to the senator blocking a bill that would make daylight saving time permanent. Let this be a lesson. Never give Donald Trump your cell. You gotta be more careful with that. Also, if Trump has your number, the texts are never gonna stop. Hey, Tom, you gonna vote for the bill? No, Mr. President. You know, when the sun is out, it's light, but when it goes away, it's dark. I know, Mr. President. What time is it?

8:30It's 3 p.m., sir. 3 p.m.? My clocks are wrong. Do you know how to change them? Tom? Tom? Do you know how to change the clocks, Tom? Tom? Did you know dumb has a B in it? So Trump doxed a fellow Republican, which earned him a rare rebuke from a GOP senator. The president, as we know, can be sometimes... He exists loudly. He can be tempestuous. He can go from zero to a-hole in about three seconds. Very funny. Very funny to start with polite language like tempestuous and then just cave in and admit he's an ass. Kennedy went from careful to not giving a f*** in less than three seconds. Also, you know you're talking about someone you support, right?

9:22Kristen, the president's a great man, and I love him, but he's also madder than a hornet with a hemorrhoid. He's the greatest president of my lifetime, and every meeting with him is like dipping your balls in a burlap sack full of hermit crabs. Long story short, he's a dick. Did you know the word dick ends with a K? You did? Well, in about nine years, the president will know that, too. And Tom Cotton's not the only Republican catching strays from Trump. Even the candidates he's supposed to be helping. Like embattled Texas Senate candidate Ken Paxton seemed to provoke Trump's ire. We have a guy named Ken Paxton.

10:02And some people don't like the way he dresses, or some people don't like the way he interviews or talks. I said, I'm not sure if I like your look, I'm not sure if I like the way you dress, I don't like the way you talk. He may not dress right, he may not talk exactly perfectly, and he may not be the best-looking guy I've ever seen. We're gonna send Ken Paxton to the United States Senate because he is whether you love him or don't love him. He's a little controversial, just slightly. A little controversial? You just said people don't like the way he looks, dresses, or talks. What's left? You may not like how he looks or how he sounds.

10:37He dresses weird and he smells like s***, but just remember, he also... I'm dumb. Also, imagine how it must feel to be told people don't like your look by a guy who stands like this. What's going on here? It's like Trump's gone full death becomes her. How do you even contort your body like that? I've only seen that one other time, and it was Vincent D 'Onofrio in Men in Black. So, Trump doesn't seem to be a fan of Paxton, despite the fact that Trump endorsed him. And Paxton, for what it's worth, seems to have had some misgivings about Trump, too. Ken Paxton, the GOP nominee for Texas Senate, was caught on tape telling donors behind closed doors how he really feels about Donald Trump's recent midterm convention.

11:25Do you feel like he's a little bit of a draft? So, to be honest with you, the numbers, when we did that at the convention, we chopped our numbers, everybody's on the drop. Right now, yeah, not good. Yeah, man, it was always gonna be tough when a massively unpopular president rolled into town, but it certainly didn't help that the gist of his message was, I might be bad, but at least I'm not Ken Paxton. You know what? If I know Trump, when he heard that leaked audio, he looked inward and he asked himself, am I doing enough to help the candidate I endorse? And I bet the next time he talked about Paxton, he was singing a different tune.

12:02When I was being hit by the radical left very hard, harder than very few people could have withstood it, I was being hit, Ken Paxton was at my side more than anybody. And I have to always remember that, because he can be a pain in the ass sometimes, I'll be honest. Is he here, by the way? Oh, there he is. Good. I didn't even know if he's here. I don't care. Dude, you're there to sell him to the people of Texas. You would be the worst Don Draper imaginable. I got the perfect slogan for you. Hamburger Helper. It's salty and gross. It's dawning on Trump that the only people left in his coalition Are weirdos and losers and it's super bumming him out Compare how miserable and bitter Trump sounds When he's campaigning with Paxton To how happy he looks when he's with New York mayor Zoran Mamdani And it's not And it's not just Trump who's smitten with Mamdani The mayor also teamed up with former rival Curtis Sliwa To encourage New Yorkers to get their flu shots This could be very embarrassing I'm supposed to be a tough guy, right?

13:07I can hold your hand. What happens if I faint? Give me a shot. You know how many people faint when they get a shot? Really? Oh, my God. Right or wrong? Health guards, right? Or if they see blood. If they see blood. I got you. Good hands, literally. I mean, everybody talks about reaching across the aisle. These guys did it literally. Chum must be so jealous. You know he saw that and said, why didn't he invite me? and don't say it's because my blood type is Diet Coke. Trump's staff probably had to make up a lie so his feelings weren't hurt. Zoran actually did invite you, Mr. President, but we missed it because we forgot to set the clock back.

13:49This clock cost me Zoran time. It has to end! The Republican Party is discovering what happens when you spend a decade devoting yourself to someone with no fixed principles, allegiances, or loyalties. They're as unpopular as they've ever been, and instead of helping, Trump just keeps digging deeper and deeper. In other words, Republicans are in... Hey-ho. This has been A Closer Look.

14:23Our show tonight is an Emmy and Golden Globe-nominated actress produced here, you know, from shows such as The Sinner, Candy, The Better Sister, and Seventh Heaven. She stars in Matchbox, the movie, Which premieres Friday, October 9th on Apple TV Please welcome back to the show our friend Kelly DeMeal

14:46How are you? It's so nice to see you, how's it going? So good to be back, it's great, how are you? I'm good, the last time I saw you I was on a family vacation We were skiing in Montana And we saw you and I know you We're friends, but I still had that thing of like I was also seeing a celebrity on vacation You know what? When I saw you, I kind of felt the same way. I was like, should I go? I don't know. Will he know who I am? Are we friends outside of work stuff? And as you're walking over, I'm like, oh my God, oh my God, it's Jessica Bielsen. Oh my God, that's up, that's up, that's up, that's up.

15:19Mira, last time I saw you, you were saying you didn't have your second. You had your first and they were not a skier. They did not embrace it. But have they come around to skiing? My little one? Your older one. My older one. He's such a good skier. That's great. Do you love that he's a good skier? I love it. Yeah. Watching a kid be a good skier is a really nice thing. It is such a nice thing. And it's so fun to do with your kids. Yes. That is the most fun that I'm having with my family. We're all skiing. Well, they're skiing. And Justin and I are snowboarding. Oh, interesting. Because we started, I mean, I started snowboarding when I was 12 years old.

15:53And I just never went back. It's very cool. So my wife snowboards as well. And I have, excuse my language, gotten so hard by this. Because when the kids are little And you're teaching them how to ski The snowboarder is useless You know what I mean? It's the adult with the skis Who puts a kid between it That's true And like guides them And the snowboarder's just like She's like, alright Just like shreds away Good luck, man Good luck, hang loose with the three kids Yeah That's true So we have scored in that department And we just get teachers now But they don't But is it that your kids The fact that he's skiing Does that mean that he thinks skiing is cooler than snowboarding?

16:32Do you think he thinks that way because his parents snowboard? Well, he definitely thinks we're not cool. Right. So I think that's aligned for sure. Yeah. But he did say he was interested in trying to learn. Right. I think to snowboard. I think it's cool, but actually, I would like to learn to ski. But I don't want to be a beginner because I hate sucking at things. Yeah. I can't stand it. It is the worst. Yeah. If I saw a beginner Jessica Biel skiing, I would try to avoid you. You should. I'd be like, that's a famous person, but I still don't even want to go say hi. Agreed, by the way. Do you find, I mean, what I love most about a ski trip is that on a ski lift, it is like the one time you have your kids like total attention.

17:15Like they're kind of trapped with you. Yeah. And you realize like how little they actually want to have a conversation with you. Like it's the most contemplative they are. Like the amount I like say, ask a question, they're like, I just want to look at the mountains. Yeah. Just like anything but talk to me. That's right. I kind of enjoy that though That's good That silence is kind of nice Yes, that's true To be with a kid My kids talk a lot And it's a lot of I should enjoy the silence I should just be quiet And also shut up And not ask them Any more questions Isn't it funny how I don't know if you're like this The amount that I Like I feel like I don't know Like a kid at school Who's like Do they like me?

17:49Like when I'm with my kids On a ski lift I'm like I wonder if they like me And then I like Come on way too strong And you can tell they're like Alright old man Where they're like I don't like you I don't like you How do I have to get I don't like you. Are your kids at least excited that you're in a kick-ass movie where you're driving around cars? Yeah. Okay, that's good. They think it's cool. And is cred like that important to you? Yeah. Good. Yeah. I mean, come on. Yeah, I would imagine. I want that cool cred because I don't really have it any other time because they can't see my other stuff.

18:24No, I was going to ask about, like, they probably weren't huge fans about Sinner. Oh, yeah, no. That's not a... Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. That was so intense. Definitely, this was not a big show for nine-year-old boys. Not really. Yeah. No, no, no. Candy also. No. Yeah. Not really for them. No. Not really for them. I have boys that age. They were like, let us watch Candy. Come on. Come on, Dad. All the boys are watching Candies. I'm like, no, you can play Xbox. They're like, we want to watch Candy. By the way, I'm going to say it. I know you didn't keep it in real life. It works for me. The hair works for me.

19:01Hair works for me. I think the hair was cool. I think my grandmother had that haircut. She was cool. I think every grandmother had that hair. For people of a certain age, I think everybody had that haircut. Yeah, that's true. And were your kids ever into Matchbox cars? I know this is... Oh, yeah. Oh, they were. Okay. They're into them now. Not my 11-year-old. My 11-year-old is not really interested in that anymore, but my 6-year-old. Yeah. Cars, helicopters, trains, vehicles. Yeah. Making all the noises and with the most incredible imagination. That's actually been really cool to still watch him just build his own imaginary world with those cars.

19:37I had a weird thing where my kids got Matchbox cars. All they wanted to do was park them. Like, but like in a line? Yeah, like it was just like, oh, it was never like room. It was like, like, just following the rules. Yeah, I was like, oh, my God, they're absent of imagination. Oh no Not only do they They don't like me and also Do you think I can be a valet one day I have more to ask you Will you stick around You guys have Jessica Biel here

20:12Welcome back We're here with Jessica Biel A lot of driving in the clip How much driving did you actually do Be honest Okay I have to say this stunt team were so insane and so cool. I did so much more than I probably should have done safely. Is that because the stunt team, when you say they're cool, they're cool in a way they're like, you can do it. Yeah, like they taught me how to do all these amazing moves. 180 a car, park it on a mark after a 180 spin, like wheel on a mark. How many 180s were you doing? So I was just donutting everywhere. It was awesome. And do you, I mean, were you so good that, I mean, you're not donutting in your regular life, are you?

20:55No, not really. Yeah, yeah. My vehicle is not really that much of a donut vehicle. What kind of driver are you in real life? Are you an aggressive driver? No, I'm not, because I'm driving kids and dogs and stuff in the car all the time, and I'm not really an aggressive driver, but I have this, you know, in my heart, I'm like, oh, I could be there. Yeah. Are you letting them know that now Where you're sort of like shuttling them off To like school and soccer practice You're like you know I could do a donut right now If you weren't in the car right now Mom would be doing so many donuts And the funny thing about that is My 11 year old would be like That's so embarrassing Do not donut in the school And my 6 year old would be like let's go You know You have one of each It's so fun to have one of each It's kind of awesome Also my older one is the most cautious one too And then you get a second one who's just a full Madman.

21:51Just full tilt all the time I mean he would almost only Want to drive via donut Just like tight Concentric circles all the way to wherever We're going John Cena's in the film I would imagine as well John Cena to children The age years are he probably Resonates a great deal. They are Excited about John Cena He's earned their Excited That's so good He's so nice by the way And he's so sweet to my kids And every time they would come to set My six year old would be like Where is he mom? And he'd literally be like right here But he's right here But where is he? Like he just his brain His brain just malfunctioned Yeah Couldn't understand I will say if you can't pick out John Cena Also maybe glasses Problematic Yeah I might try glasses as well Eye doctor Yeah right to the eye doctor At that age, that's what they do They put up a chart of John Cena They don't even do the letters Can you see him?

22:53And they're like, I don't see anybody They're like, oh, if you can't see John Cena You're going to get your glasses Seventh Heaven 30 years 30 years ago I know, by the way When these anniversaries happen for people like us It's like, we don't want to know I don't want to hear these anniversaries But do you remember your audition? Yeah Yeah, I do. It was an old school kind of situation where you did one with the casting director and then you did another one and then it ended up being a test situation with a bunch of executives behind a table. And what I remember most of all, besides being absolutely terrified, is that in the scene, Mary Camden spins a basketball on her finger.

23:39So I did that, but without the ball. Like a weird theater kid, you know, just like spinning like this. I got the part. Wow. By the way, I mean, bravo. I mean, I should have, why didn't I bring a bowl? I should have just brought the bowl. I'm going to be honest. If I'm one of those casting people, I'm not psyched when someone brings the bowl. No? I think that's a little too thirsty. I much prefer somebody. I mean, by the way, that's still the only way I can do it. Me too, pretty much. I mean, do you think they got a false sense? She was very confident. She can probably do it in real life. Probably.

24:18Did you then in the end in the episode spin a ball? I'm sure I did. Yeah. I love that you can only remember miming the ball. Because that was the traumatic part of the experience of having to go through the audition process. Right. Which was so scary. I mean, that multi-level audition, it's that weird thing where the closer you get, you keep thinking you have the confidence of, I must be doing something right. Yeah. But also the pressure of knowing you're getting closer and closer to sort of a career-changing moment. It is. You're getting nervous thinking about it. I know. That's the way I feel about when I talk about auditioning for SNL, which is the closest I have to that, which is like when I walked out, like the amount that I had sort of sweat.

24:57Yes. Just in the, like from when it ended to like five minutes after, I was like, oh my God, my body was holding in a lot of stress. Oh my God. Those experiences are so intense. Do you remember getting the phone call being like, hey, you're on the show? Yes. I do. I remember it so clearly because my mom and I were in our car. What car was that? It was like a Subaru or something, and we were driving on Sunset. Yeah. And we got the call. So it was like we were on this epic, iconic street, and you get this call that you got this part, and we just pulled over and screamed for like two minutes straight.

25:34When you think about it, I imagine a lot of people have found out on Sunset that they got cast in something, right? Just the odds are. Right. You might be doing that. That's where they, instead of like, you know, the Hollywood Boulevard has Boulevard, I think. The Boulevard. I'm pretty sure that's right. But, you know, there's the Walk of Fame. But I feel like they should have little plaques all around L.A. where people pulled cars over to celebrate what part. Like, this is where Jessica Biel and her mom did a donut. And then they pulled over and screamed. And screamed. Yeah. You're right. There would be so many plaques everywhere.

26:04That would be really, those are the plaques. That's actually cool. So I'm going to talk to whoever's running that city over there. Absolutely. I'm on it. I'm on it. Congrats on the movie Thanks so much for being here It's always so nice to see you

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