Brooke Puth on Styling Her and Charlie Puth's Wedding, Her Go-To Shopping Spots, and the Art of The Funky Shoe

0:01Hi, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Let's Get Dressed. It's your host Liv Perez. The internet broke last September when Vogue dropped the images from Brooke and Charlie Puth's wedding. From a gorgeous custom Danielle Frankel gown to vintage Chanel and tabby mules as a getting ready shoe, the wedding was a feast for fashion lovers alike. Styled by Brooke herself, she has an eye for incredible fashion. Not just for herself, but also for her community on her virtual styling platform, The Closet Next Door. an Instagram account where she curates chic daily looks. In today's episode, get to know Brooke from her early New Jersey days wearing bows on the lacrosse field to now being known for her love of a funky shoe.

0:46She actually showed up to the podcast today in the tabby matte feather heels and I swooned. We also talk about how decisiveness plays a role in strong personal style and the best piece of advice she wants every bride to know right now. Go follow Brooke on Instagram and The Closet Next Door. They're both linked in the description of this episode. And if you have time today, leave a kind review for the episode on Apple Podcasts and on Spotify. Now let's go get dressed with Brooke Puth. Welcome to the pod. Thanks for having me. Popping the podcast cherry today. Yes, I'm excited. We have to talk about your shoes.

1:22And I don't know if the YouTube people can see the shoes, but yeah. My tibbies, the mat heel. You walked in the house and I was like, thank Thank you so much for coming to work prepared today. Of course. I actually, they made their debut at Fashion Week in the snow. So I had to trim off the feathers that got like black from the snow. Oh no. But they survived. They honestly are pretty good condition for the dirty snow in the city streets. Everyone needs a haircut now and then. Even your shoes. Even your shoes. Those are so fab. And I really like how you styled them. Thank you. I often will see like commentary on the internet of like a quote unquote like crazy shoe like that.

1:54People will be like, but how do you style that? And I'm like, the way you have it right now is so perfect and so just like chill. Yeah, I honestly, I am drawn to a funky shoe. Yeah, you do love a funky shoe. And I do. That's like my thing. Yep. But so I actually love the blue that they come in. Okay. But I always wear my, or I used to always wear my blue Amina Muadi heels and like with everything. So I was like, okay, I already have like my weird funky blue shoe. So, and I tried out, I was thinking that I was going to like the black, but then like the black kind of got lost. and then when I tried on the white, I was with my brother and he's like, oh, I like the white.

2:28And so here we are. Your brother was like, oh, I like the white. Yeah, I made him come shopping with me. I need a brother like you. I know. Wow. Yeah, you do love a funky show, which is why I'm very excited to have you on the pod today because I'm such a fan of your style. Thank you. I think you do such a good job of kind of effortless, cool style. Thanks. I know. I feel like it kind of just is what it like. I was saying to my mom, like, I am not a basics person. No, no. Even what what are your like? What would you consider your basics to be? My Hanes little boys tanks that I wear. Literally from the little boys.

3:07I buy the extra large like boys because they're shorter than like the women's extra small. Genius. So I have packs of these. OK. And I love I always go to jeans. That's my go to. But I don't know. I just gravitate towards like event clothes or like random wacky things. And then I just wear them enough that it becomes like part of my wardrobe. I mean, I'm still in that phase where like I do kind of have my like wardrobe basics and they are quite basic. Like it's a great jean. It's a great blazer. But I've told myself my promise for this year is to like try things that are a bit funkier and more fun.

3:44And I get so much inspiration from you. I can help you. Yeah, you can. Well, it's so dollar white tee. That's crazy. But a thousand dollar weird pair of shoes that I'll wear once and like sign me up. Anytime. Yeah. Anytime. Not logical at all, but it works. Where did your love for fashion start? Honestly, my mom. She literally, her closet is our hangout area still to this day. I remember when I was younger, like I used to bring like my friends over and be like, oh my God, you guys have to see my mom's shoe wall. She had 60 Jack Rogers in different colors. like she was a preppy queen back in the day her style has evolved but we would bring everyone over and be like oh my god look at my mom's shoe closet and we my parents would always go out they were so social so I'd just watch my mom get ready and I remember like even back in the day with like magazines and my mom and I would be circling what we want in the magazines and calling in the closet to place our order before online shopping I know I was thinking about it and I was like oh my god Like that was such a core memory for me.

4:43Yeah. And like even back to school shopping and getting your books buying before the school season, which was so fun. And but it was just like my mom, really. I have to tell you, like I really resonate with that. It was the same thing with my mom and I. And now as I'm getting older and I'm like thinking of starting a family, something that I've held really dear is like making sure that like closet and bathroom space, if it's something that I'm able to do is really inviting. because I want my kids to have that same experience and maybe fall in love with clothes like I did. But my mom too was really preppy when we were younger and now she's like a little bit more funky and she's wearing like a cute belt and a loafer.

5:21But it is so, for me, it was such a formative thing in my life. What did you wear growing up? Like what, was there something? I often think about like these like very quintessential moments in my upbringing where I wore something that actually feels, or I like experienced something in life and it feels very... formative to how I dress now. Was there something that you remember growing up that you're like, oh, that's still kind of like in me today? Well, my mom always had me in a bow. In a bow? In a bow. Like a hair bow? Like when I was younger, I was in the biggest bow you could find. And I feel like literally up until like high school, like on the lacrosse field, I'd wear like a yellow bow so my mom could like see me on the field.

6:03Oh, that's cute. But I'm not really into bows anymore. And I didn't really lean into that trend, but that was like something that I always wore when I was younger. Not necessarily that like I still wear, but I have an appreciation for them. You are really good with an accessory. Like I see what you're wearing now. For people who are listening audibly, she's wearing this like Navy crew neck or V-neck and then has this like amazing necklace that she actually got from a store down the street from my house. It's a bunch of kids like linked together. Little people. But like that is such a, and even like the amazing rings I see on your hands now, like there's such an accessories choice that I wouldn't be surprised if like the bow can relate from that.

6:41Yeah. Like I think all the time I was a dancer growing up, ballet, had my hair in a bun 24 seven until I was 19 years old. And I think now I'm like, oh, I'm just so accustomed to being in a bun and feeling like put together like that. But that's usually my like comfort space. Yeah. Well, it's so funny. Like even now, like I'm getting trying to wear my hair down more because I was falling into the slick back bun trend. But it's just I like that. And I love it. I love it. I'm pushing my hair out of my face. You do. Because the bun like you don't have to touch it. You don't have to worry about your hair.

7:14It's just up and lasts. How do you get dressed every day? Like walk me through this morning. You're going through the closet. And how does the outfit come to mind? Today is honestly like an anomaly because normally I live in my athleisure. You do? I know. It's a crime. Kind of. I've fallen into it. But I think just because I live in Montecito and it's just such a slow lifestyle. And like, I just like wake up and I walk and I do my workout and then I go to the grocery store. Like my life is very slow, I would say. And like, I don't really have a reason to get dressed, which is a crime. But it also makes me appreciate like the other side of my life that is like so hectic and crazy where I'll have to plan outfits for months when I'm on tour with my husband and then I have a look every single day.

8:02So I go through phases. And I think that's why like also my content isn't as consistent because I don't get dressed every day. Makes sense. Yeah. But today, my first thing I always go to is like jeans. Jeans I love. I find so comfortable. And I was like, I just want to be casual, but then I need a little twist. So here are my funky shoes. I love a funky shoe. And my necklace and add a little pizzazz. The basics always is just jeans, a white tee, and a black blazer. If you're struggling for, you don't know what to wear, that's like my go-to, the uniform. What are your favorite denim brands? Like what are the jeans in your closet that you reach for every day?

8:37Normally, so my friend actually started a brand called Neglige. I don't know if they're still up and running, but they had like an everyday jean and I bought them twice. I live in them. I love them so much. They're just like a baggy, dark rinse, low rise, easy pant that I can wear on planes because they're so comfy, but you look put together or with heels. But recently I've been reaching for my park denim jeans. I love them because they're like actual, like it's hard denim, but they're comfy. Like they're not like stiff. I love that because for travel, I want something that like looks elevated and not always have to be in like a legging or something that feels like travel inspired.

9:16Honestly, I love the Rag & Bone Miramar sweat pant jeans for travel. Those are crazy. I live in them. I have them. My mom turned me on to them, honestly. They're literally a sweat pant with denim like dyed on it, right? Yeah, like a print. It's crazy. But like you would never be able to tell. My mom didn't know. Never. No, never. When she first bought them, she was like wearing them with heels and she's like, oh, where is in the back pocket working. And she's like, oh my God, Brooke, these are sweatpants. I was like, wait, these are amazing. They're incredible. I didn't add for them. I think when they first came out and I was like, not, I was like, these are weird.

9:48Like I don't even know. But now you got to lean into them. You have to lean into them. No one's going to know. No. It's like that TikTok sound. No one's going to know. No. Just do it. No one's going to know. Those are amazing. I haven't seen them in a while. Do you have them just in a normal wash? Yeah. I feel like I would love them in a black. They came out with like a bunch of different variations now, but I put them in the dryer and now they're a little short on me. So I might have to get a new pair. Never put anything in the dryer, besides tees and athleisure. This is what I've learned. I do a lot of my own laundry.

10:14Hang dry. The way to go. Everything. Like I'll wash all my sweaters in the washing machine, like my cashmere, and then I'll just like flat dry it. For cashmere, you have to flat dry. But everything else does not belong in the dryer. Yeah. It's a nightmare. I've had so many. It always gets ruined. It's just like when the pants shrink like that and they were like the perfect length before. But I think now they make short and tall versions, so I might need the taller version. Brands that do that are genius. because like I'm 5 '4 and like I need short. And I'm 5 '7. Yeah. So I need a little bit of height.

10:44You walked in and I was like, oh, she's the perfect height for clothes. Thank you. 5 '7 is the perfect height for clothes. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, it is. It is really nice. You literally go to the store, you pick up a pair of pants and they fit you, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, no. For the most part. I have to get all my pants tailored. Yeah. All of them. My tailor loves me. I hate going there. A good relationship to have. Yeah, we're besties. What other closet essentials do you love? I know you mentioned a blazer. Yeah. I always go to the Frankie shop, the blazer. So good. Yeah. And honestly, a really good price.

11:15It's like under$400. I think it's like$3.50. $3.80. Yeah. Honestly, for that construction of a blazer, it's really good. Yeah. I also have their hourglass one that gives you a little bit of shape. I've seen a lot of that normally. I think especially like in bridal, it's everywhere. So I feel like it's just kind of on my radar. But this year, I feel like even just post fashion month, I saw them everywhere. Yeah. Like they were on every runway. I honestly don't wear it as much as I should, but maybe I'll bring it back out. I think with that hourglass, you have to wear a very straight pant with it.

11:45And so I feel like the straight kind of pant is not really something everyone has in their closet. It's cute with like a mesh skirt or like a sheer skirt. I love it with a skirt. It gives that like Dior new look vibe that I love. Totally. Yeah. So pretty. Okay. What else is in the closet that you're like reaching for? What do I reach? Laser. Obviously you have your tees, jeans. Yeah. My tanks, my hand tanks that I said, those are my go-to. I love my Solomon sneakers. You do? I do. I used to be a sneaker head. Same. East coast life. Also, I'm a tabby girl through and through. I know they're polarizing.

12:18Let's talk about the tabby. Okay. People have a bone to pick. Are you, are you one of those? No, I'm all for the feather shoe. I'm all for the tabby. I'm, I'm here for all of it. Will I wear it myself and like think it looks good on me? No. But when I see you in a tabby, I'm like, damn, she looks so good. I love it. I just got the loafers with like the back that isn't like the hardback. You can like step on them. I wore the tabby mules wedding morning as my slippers. Oh, yep. What do you love about them? They're just so easy. But I think also too, if you're just wearing a simple outfit, it adds just a little pizzazz.

12:56Like even the black ones, like if someone's just looking at you at a coffee shop, oh, basic outfit. And you look down and you're like, you have hooves. You know, like it's just a little something. I was at Jack's Coffee in New York and I looked down and there's a dog next to me and their paw and my shoes were right next to each other. I've never gotten more responses on my Instagram story ever. I'll have to show you the photo after. Wait, can I see it now? No, we have to see this picture now. It needs to be shown to the camera. Oh, oh, oh my God. No, that was that was better than anything I could have expected.

13:30Like the fact that you like both white paws. That is the greatest picture I've ever seen in my whole life. You guys, if you it's on her grid right now in a swipe, it's like her in a white tabby flat with a dog with white paws on a red floor. That is. It was pretty iconic. Okay. Tabby queen. I'll give it to you. Yes, I do love. I've converted my mom. She's now a tabby lover. And I feel like I love like going to Asia so much. Okay. Everyone's in their tabbies there too. I'm going to Tokyo for my first time in May. And I feel like you have a good list for me. I do. I feel like you do. Oh my God. I love Japan.

14:05My husband's there to eat. I'm there to shop. I'm very ready for some like incredible places and things. And I can't wait. I'll be getting a list from you afterwards. Yes, definitely. I can't believe you convinced your mom to go Tabby. That's epic. Yeah. She's fully, she wore matching slippers or mules with me wedding morning. She wore them in blue. I wore them in white. And then now she's a full tabby girl. She's boots, different heel heights, the slingbacks. I mean, look, if anybody can influence me to wear something, it's you, which is why I love the closet next door. I've actually been like looking at it for outfit inspo on a daily basis.

14:36I know you have a cow co-founder on the East Coast. How did you guys start the closet next door? So my best friend Olivia and I, we've always... Great name. Great name. Great name. We've always loved clothes. Like even in high school, we would put on full-blown outfits, do full-blown photo shoots, go into the city when like Butcher's Daughter was like the rave. We would wait two hours in line to get our content. It was like peak Instagram of the presets. Like we would run around the city like thinking that we were the coolest people that we knew, but we loved it. And that's what we would do for fun on the weekends.

15:10And we just have always loved clothes and always shared clothes. And post-college, we would, I had a job. I was working at an interior design firm. She was working at her job. And we both were like, we need like a little creative outlet. And we started the closet next door. But we got our name because we both lived in Tribeca in buildings right next to each other. So our closets were next door. That is the cutest backstory of all time. So it kind of just like evolved. We were just coming up with outfits that we would wear. And then people would write in like, oh, I need an outfit for Easter. And then I would create like what I would wear on Easter.

15:53And then like people keep writing in like, oh, like Super Bowl or my birthday party or things like that. But it wasn't really personal to the person. It was more so just what we would wear for that event. But it's slowly evolved. And now we are taking like personal styling requests where people will write in exactly what they need, their budget, if it's a capsule wardrobe, one look, a bridal package, which I love doing the bridal ones. So fun. Virtual styling, I think, is becoming a very big thing. I agree. I think everything is online now. Like the way I shop, school at one point, like everything, people work online, like everything's online.

16:34So I feel like it's not going anywhere. And even if you're just like scrolling through your day to day, if I can inspire you real quick in your scroll, like, oh, I would have never thought to wear that. Or, oh, I've never heard of this brand before. I think it's a great outlet. It makes it more accessible for people. But there's nothing like in-person styling, like trying it on and seeing it either fit perfectly or horribly. And I'm like, not even for everyone to buy the full outfit, but like, oh, I've never heard of that swimwear brand. What's that? And you click on it and then you go down like a rabbit hole and you just find new things daily, which is nice.

17:10What other places do you love to shop? In person, in LA, I love Recess Vintage. The best. I love Recess. Recess does not get the love it deserves. On La Brea. Yep. I like RLT. Love RLT. That's where I got these actually. Where else? And then obviously like Melrose Place, I shop, go up and down. I'm a Ghani girl and acne. Love. But then in the city, I love like the Lower East Side. Frankie Shop World. The Frankie Shop, Assembly New York, Rough Vintage. There's a store, Cara Loliage. I haven't heard of it. I'm butchering the name. Okay. We'll find them. Yes. It's like right by Sandy Lang and Susan Alexandra.

17:54It's down there. So fun down there. I know. It's gritty. It's gritty. But they have all the hidden spots. They do. What about online? Any vintage places you love? Online. I love Shop SVC, Shop Vintage Collection. Never heard of that. Oh my God. The blazers are like$50. I'm in trouble now. I know. They have amazing pieces. I just got a couple of things from them. But online, I'm a Moda and my Teresa girl. You are a Moda girl. I see you always linking Moda. And I feel like I get it. It's because I love the styling and it makes it easy. Like I don't want to have to dig through your website. Yeah, they do have a great I want it presented nicely I like to know when it's coming out Like with the trunk shows The styling is everything For e-commerce Like if it's not Well, that's what we were saying with the It makes or breaks an outfit Makes or breaks it Makes or breaks it Like I will buy it if it's beautifully done Like it's so funny Revolve uses that same model Yeah On forward too And now I'm just like, okay, I know Yeah That looks good But yeah, I am a modem I, Teresa I love how fast it comes It comes with the label I just ordered something from Net this morning and it comes tomorrow morning.

18:57And I'm like, see. I also love NET. I love Essence for like more funky pieces. I love their home section. It's hard for me to sift on Essence. I know. It's a sift. You have to know what you want. Really have to know what you want. There are some websites out there that are still presenting clothing like as a flat lay. Yeah. Like with no model. And I'm like, how are you guys alive? But I feel like back, sorry, back to Essence. I feel like they carry more like funky pieces. Absolutely. And like Japanese brands. and they like are a completely different selection than my Teresa and Melinda. Totally.

19:30It's a, like I remember, I like their, I like them for discovery. Like I first found like Shushu Tong from them. Like there's a lot of brands that I would have never found if it hadn't been for them. I think this J Kim is on it. Oh, cute. Or my necklace is on. Necklace, yeah. Okay, love. Good to know. I'll check it out. Okay, let's switch gears to wedding a little bit because you and I both had a fun wedding year and I loved seeing your wedding unfold. The 2024 brides. 2024 brides. I miss being 20-24 bride. It was fun. Do you miss it? Yes. I love it. I love it. I can talk about weddings all day long every day.

20:00So come on. Like when people tell me they're getting married now, I'm like, how much time do you have? Like, what do you need? Let's do a full deep dive. Full deep dive. I'm sad. Okay. For starters, you and Charlie met back at home. Your dads knew each other in elementary school? Yeah. Our dads were best friends in elementary school. And then our moms became best friends like while they were dating and they all got married at the same time. They all had kids at the same time. And we just grew up together. This is the cutest thing I've ever heard. Someone needs to make like a Hallmark rom-com inspired by the story.

20:32Well, didn't you know your husband since the beginning? No, not since the beginning. We've been kind of connected. Our siblings went to high school together. And like, we all kind of grew up in the same circle, but not like that. Yeah. That is fun. So the wedding was so fun. We already knew everyone on the guest list. It was easy. Oh my God. No one had to meet for the first time. Oh my God, that is a dream and a half because that really is a thing. Like you meet a lot of cousins for the first time. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. How sweet for your dad's like. Oh, our moms were so excited. But not even that.

21:03Like imagine your dad sitting there being like, hey, like, did you think when we were in middle school together that our kids would be getting married? No, definitely not. What a sweet thing. I know. Oh my God. So how did you, did you guys have to rekindle over time or. It was always like we were always interested in each other and it was always just timing. Like I had a boyfriend. He had a girlfriend. Typical. I went to like I was going to college doing my thing. He was in L.A. And then it was kind of just like when timing worked out finally for us, it worked out. And here we are. Honestly, for the best timing is everything.

21:37Definitely. Like my husband and I met. We were best friends for two years. And I always say that if we started dating off the bat, we probably wouldn't have made it all the way. We just weren't ready in that time of life. Like we were both so young. He had just moved to New York. I was just graduating college. Whereas when we actually started dating a few years later, we were just a bit more like settled. Yeah, I agree. Had that confidence to like be in a relationship. Yeah. Timing's everything. Truly is everything. The other day you posted your mood boards. Oh, yes. I loved them. Thank you. I have to ask, people have been asking me a lot about weddings.

22:10Like, how did you pick your theme? And I'm like, I didn't. I didn't either. I didn't have a theme. Do you think that? Yeah. Do you think that wedding themes are necessary anymore? No. I think it should be a reflection of your daily life. Agree. And like, I honestly took a lot of inspiration from like my house. Yep. And like, even though I'm an East Coaster, but we got married at Charlie's parents' house in California. In essentially the driveway, right? The ceremony was in the driveway. And then the cocktail area was like in their pool patio area. And then we worked our way for the reception, the tent, and the yard.

22:46I completely agree with you that the theme should be reflective of you guys yeah and it's funny because like you said to me like oh we got married in the driveway but first of all it's the most stunning wedding ever but at the same time like it's such a reflection of home and like you guys sharing that same home from when you were young and it is true like I think whatever you didn't even look at wedding venues I like didn't even need to I was like I knew I wanted to get married in either my parents' backyard or his parents' backyard. Or I wanted a tent wedding regardless. And always loved the idea of a backyard wedding.

23:19Same. It's very Father of the Bride. I know. Best movie ever. But that's like my whole thing. Like I wanted something traditional and like classic, but with a twist. Right. Like I loved like my whole wedding theme. Like I loved like a juxtaposition of like, I had no wedding florals at my ceremony, which like who does that? Wow. I didn't have any. Like I had my stools be like the structural, unique element. That was like the statement. You were in the backyard, right? So there's, or like there were already, there was already some such stubbery. Yeah. Like we got married around like the olive tree and like a half circle.

23:53Yeah. I think the, one of the biggest things that I took away from planning a wedding was how many things are kind of baked in that you are assumed, that are assumed needed. And how many things as you go through it, you're like, oh, I don't need that. But wait, how can I not have wedding florals? There are so many preconceived ideas that we really just like, you can make it your own. Well, that's my whole thing with weddings. I'm like, you don't have to do anything you don't want to. If you don't want to wear like a bridal dress, like a wedding designer, don't. Get a dress that has a gown, throw on a veil and like you'll have your wedding dress.

24:28Like if you like personally, like I'm not, I love my girlfriends, but I'm not a big girls group girl. Right. If that makes sense. It does. Like I was never a sorority girl or anything like that. And so like I didn't have bridesmaids. I got ready with my mom alone, a quiet, peaceful morning. Like you don't have to do anything you don't want to do. Yeah. And I think that's what people get so hung up on. Like, oh, I need the bridal shower. I need this. I need that. And I'm like, you can do anything. It should just be a reflection of you and your husband or your partner. My mother's face when I was like, I'm not having a bridal shower.

24:59I didn't have one neither. She was like, what? And I was like, well, honestly, I didn't want to pick another outfit. At that time, I was fatigued. See, like I would have wanted the bridal shower for the outfit, but I was just like, my husband and I already lived together. Right. I'm like, I don't need another. I'm like, I'd rather save whatever money we spend on the bridal shower and throw it into the wedding. Exactly. And that's the other thing I think people don't realize is like, you don't have to do these things. Use whatever your budget is towards what you really want to use it for. I think like if you're paying for the wedding, I think, or when you have other people helping you pay for the wedding, then you kind of have to appreciate some people's inputs.

25:39But for the most part, like do as you please. Yep. I mean, it came out beautifully. Thank you. It really was so classic, so Montecito beautiful. Like it was amazing. Yeah. I wanted it to be like super effortless, like, oh, just a little backyard wedding, but like everything is meticulously plan. There's like details in the details and like that would sometimes like pass people by, but I'm like, I know they're there. If you could have done something differently, what would it have been? I feel like the only thing that like I wish I ended up going with was my seating chart. I wanted like this TV display.

26:15Like, you know how they have at Jessica McCormick, the jewelry store, like all the different TVs. It's like a vintage display. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I wanted that to be like an art installation for my seating chart. Okay, that's fun. Yeah, like I had like this vision and then literally because I didn't do it. I was seeing it everywhere afterwards. Oh my God. But I was like, people are just going to look at their seating chart for like one second. That was not my priority. Yeah. And I still had like a TV element. I did like a plasma on like an art easel. That's cool. And like projected a graphic of like all black and white images of like people, us from home, like us in California.

26:50And I don't know. You really have my only like thing that I was like, oh, I wish I just did it. But then I was like, was it worth it? No. I think you really have to like rationalize cost per minute. Like how long are people enjoying this? It would be cool for me. Exactly. I know. It's funny. You have to like stay off Instagram almost as a bride. I know. Because every decision you make, you can go on the internet and find something so different that like takes you off your path. I am like the most decisive person ever. Love. So I didn't really have any. Of that. No. Like even I remember when I first tried on wedding dresses, they're like, okay, you'll try on like X amount of dresses during the time.

27:28I tried on like double and the guy was like, and I was like, I just knew I put it on. I was like, no. I bet you that decisiveness is also why you have a very specific point of view with your style. You're able to be like, yep, it's that. It's not that deep. I think people who are decisive don't overthink things and they're just like, that's it. We're going with it. And that's, yeah, it's not deeper than that. How was the process of making a custom dress? Honestly, easy. But I didn't know I was going to go the custom route eventually. Like I said, I was a wedding girl. So I was in the Pinterest boards back in the day.

28:01Was what you wore the dress you originally wanted? I first discovered Danielle Frankel in 2018. I remember her first or one of her first campaign shoots. It was the wedding dresses in this pool with no water in it. And I vividly remember it stuck with me. And I was like, I love this brand. Like, I think it's so cool. And I just remember always loving her. And then as years went on, she started to become more of like a household name brand and everywhere, which at first I was like, do I want to go with her? Because now everyone's wearing her. Like, I feel like it was article after article, like Daniel Frankel.

28:36But I was like, but I still love her designs and her style. So I started my wedding dress try on process. And when I first went to Danielle and the only thing I left with was my engagement party outfit. Like I, that was the only thing that I was like, wow, like this is what I want. And then I tried on, I think like 30 dresses. Wow. But like I said, but I didn't go to that many places. You know me, I was quick. Yeah. I was trying them on. Nope. Yes. Whatever. And then my husband and I, we left for tour. So that's why I was kind of, I needed to make a decision kind of quick or try on style. So then I, by the time I got back, I could like take action of what I wanted because we got married almost a year from the date that we got engaged.

29:24Wow. My best, one of my really good friends just did that. And it was like September 5th to September 7th. Yeah. You're really like going into overdrive right away. Yeah. Like pedal to the metal. I tried on a bunch and then nothing was wowing me and I was like okay like let me just go back to Danielle and I'll like piecemeal all the pieces of all the dresses that I tried on together okay and it's like I loved this one dress and it really snatched me but then like this one Lanvin dress like has me in a chokehold still to this day okay and it wasn't a wedding dress It was just one of their dresses and it had this beautiful like sculptural tulle twist bottom that was very light.

30:05And my friend wore that in pink for a wedding for her sister's wedding. Beautiful. And when she walked down the aisle, I was like, took my breath away. That's a gorgeous dress. And so I was like originally talking to the Lanvin team, like, can I make this in white? Because it came in a butter yellow. So I was like tweaking all that. But I didn't love like the front of the dress. And I was like, well, that has to matter. Like I can't just have the train. Yep. And so when I was talking with Danielle, she was like, well, you're liking two different things. Like you can't have this ethereal, light, flowy thing.

30:33Right. And then this super structural element. So I kind of had to lean in and pick a lane. And when we were coming up with designs, I was like putting two dresses on at once to kind of see like how it would look like this top with this. And I remember right as I was leaving, I was like putting my clothes on to get ready to leave. and like the bottom of this one dress that I didn't see caught my eye and it was like a linen organza material with like a tulip skirt. Okay. But it had like a super high neck and so I was like let me just try it back on and go back in the fitting room real quick. Yeah.

31:08And when I was looking in the mirror I was like okay well I love strapless like let's roll it down. I was like can we add a train? I was like can we remove the boning? I was like well maybe if we have like some lace or some petals coming out of the top and it kind of just like ever evolved yeah and we're like wait this is it and that's kind of how it happened and then every time I went for a fitting it kind of was just like more and more like evolved I was like okay like I'll do a fold over because originally when I tried on the dress and folded down the dress it had created like a shadow almost or a shelf directly underneath like your bust and I was like oh I kind of like that element and so we're like figuring out how I could do that and she's like well actually I have like hand-painted lace now too oh wow so I was like let's throw that in there so like all the flowers around my bust were hand-painted they were hand-painted mixed in with the lace which kind of adds like a more masculine edge the hand because it was hard with like the soft lace which I liked I think to do custom you have to be like you you have to be incredibly decisive and have a vision.

32:14Yeah. Otherwise you're just in like a. And I just like needed to know that no one else is going to wear my dress. Yes. That's a big thing. Like that's like who I am as a person. Like I had to have my moment. Yep. I totally agree. And I'm like now I don't care if like people have similar. Yeah. Whatever. But I'm like I needed that initial thing to like this is mine. Right. And I loved it. And I want to take it back. It's so beautiful. Yeah. So beautiful. I still look at it like, oh, I love it. Because it's like so classic. Yeah, no, it was nothing that crazy. No, but it is unique. And it has like not everyone would wear like the tulip skirt or add the train in the back, which is kind of odd.

32:53But I loved it. I think your dress has to feel like you and I think it needs to fit in with the environment that you're getting married in. I think your venue plays to it completely. I think picking a dress is not about your dream dress. It's about where how it fits in your venue. Totally. Like when I first planned the wedding, I was like, I hate lace. I'm not wearing lace. My wedding dress was full long sleeve lace. Stunning. Thank you. But I loved it. I loved it specifically for the environment. Like I loved it walking through the field. Yeah. Like I loved it in the English countryside. But yeah, I would have never picked it if it wasn't for the location.

33:26I could see that with your dress too. Like you need those moments that tie you and ground you to where you are. And like something that like you'll look back in and be like, I loved this. Like, okay, even if in a couple years or like down the road, you're like, oh my God, I can't believe I wore that. But that's what I liked. And that's what was calling my name at that time. I had no desire to be a timeless bride. No. Zero. Like I wanted, I want to be 60 and look back at my wedding and be like, oh, you were having the time of your life. Like you wore what you thought was like bold and fun during that time.

33:57I don't want it to be, I think if something like exists through time like that on such a special day, it sometimes can fall flat. And I think sometimes that pursuit of timelessness kind of veers you away from like wearing the thing that feels like you. I also think it will still be timeless because it's your personal take. Yeah. Absolutely. Like it's timeless to you. Like maybe someone else doesn't like it, but who cares? My favorite of your looks. I loved your wedding dress, but I loved what you wore for your reception. The Jill Sanders. Thank you. Insane. Oh my God. It was so fun. Okay. I know that that was hard to source.

34:27Yes. So I styled myself for my wedding. I needed to take on the feet for myself and for my own personal self. And I was just scouring the internet for a year, basically. I don't remember exactly when I first found it, but I found it on Moda and it was a pre-order. And I won't even go on Moda and hit pre-order. I won't. You have to select available now. only available now. I can't do it. I saw it on Moda and the back was like a kind of like the Proenza twist back. It had like a twist in the back. And that's how it was on the Moda model. And Charlie's stylist at the time, Dave Thomas, he, I was like, Hey, like, do you have any pull at Jill Sander?

35:11Like I want this dress, but it doesn't say when it's available. And then I think the time came about, but like they still didn't have the size or something like that. I don't even really remember. And he was like, let me see. And they ended up coming up tough. And they were like, there's one left in like the country or the world. I don't even remember. Okay. And they're like, it's in the LA jail jail Sander. And they're like, they have it for you. Like you have like this weekend to go try it on. So I drove down. Yep. I tried it on. I was by myself. Okay. And the sales associate and I literally, I put it, he had it laid out on like in the fitting room because it's so heavy.

35:50You can't hang it or else it'll like stretch. Yep. And the back was a little different. It didn't have the twist like the one on Moda and it was just like a tank. Okay. So like a full back. And when we tried it on, the sales associate, William and I were like giddy. We were jumping for joy. Like I was the only one in the store. I was like, this is - The best moment. Perfectly. The best moment. Didn't have to be altered. Like he literally, I just slipped right into it. And I was like, I need this. I'm so happy for you. I know. I was thrilled. Fashion moment. I got the idea. I just remembered I loved the Aliyah look on the runway with the ruffle pants.

36:25Yep. Oh my God. I love, I want all things Aliyah. It had me in a chokehold, these pants. And I was like, I just need, cause I was not opposed to wearing pants in a tank top for my second look because I loved the movement of the pants down the runway. It was all over my Instagram feed. And I remember he inquired for me and it was like 35 grand for pants. And I was like, I don't need those. I can live without. There's no one influencing me more to buy the Elias shoes right now than you. Do it. I know. I love that influence. But so that was like what I loved. And I felt like the Jill Sander look accomplished the same thing.

37:00It was just a tank. Yes. That off-white cream. The bottom had the movement and they were actually long sequins. So like it's the same material of the sequins. And it was mixed like off-white and cream with like stark white. So that's why I wore like white shoes to like make it pop. And I loved it. Thank you. It was so much. And it was nice because the back didn't have any sequins on it. So I could sit like easily. Oh, that's amazing. Because I wore it like for our dinner portion. And you have to wear something that you can eat comfortably in. Are there any places that you found some like great hidden gems at while you were bridal shopping for anybody who's listening, who's a fellow bride or knows a bride they want to share?

37:39I found my rehearsal dinner dress at Happy Isles. the best that Chanel was incredible I honestly didn't even mean to find it it found me and I remember I was there with my best friend Olivia she was in town and I was like let's just go to happy hours I had an appointment and like I laughed and I was like okay I need that I don't I didn't know what for exactly but that is my style completely like I loved the trench I don't even know. I wore it in the back. I tied it in the back. So it kind of cinched me a little, the belt. But it was just effortless and easy. But... Tapioz is great. Yeah. I feel like sometimes I've gone and I haven't found anything, but then sometimes I go and I find like 20 things and I'm in trouble.

38:23Yeah. I also like got like this really cute like Blue Marine cherry set for my honeymoon from there too. I loved that set. It's very cute. They have great stuff. Like I think their curation is amazing. It's kind of a field day for me whenever I go in there. And I like... So the brand that I said before, Lucia Zolia. Yeah. I got this really cute like pearl bag that I wore for my marriage certificate courthouse look. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. There's one too. I've never gotten anything from them, but like Shop Gossamer. I've seen it. I haven't gotten it. Yeah. They're always at like a current affair.

38:55I'm trying to think. Those are like my two vintage and like Tab. I went to Tab Vintage. I know you got one of your dresses there. I did. Yeah. Got my reception dress from there. that was a labor of love that dress yeah it was a bit too big on me it needed like a very it needed like a couture seamstress to fix it but it's so worth it it was my favorite but it was fun there they had good pieces there oh they have incredible pieces it's a hefty price tag yeah but if you're willing to find something and invest in it and like have it forever like I'm so glad I bought that dress in hindsight it was so expensive it was a moment it's in my closet right now and sometimes when I'm sad I just maybe put it on I just look at it I'm like I have it forever yeah Yeah, maybe someone in my family will wear it one day.

39:33Yeah, you never know. Never know. What's your best piece of advice for any brides right now that are planning their wedding? I would say, I mean, we kind of touched on this before, but like you can do whatever you want. Yeah. Like, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Yep. And it'll be okay. Yep. You will look beautiful the day of. It'll all work out. And no one knows what you didn't choose. Yeah. Only you know that the cocktail napkins could have been light blue or dark blue. Like no one knows those little decisions. Yes. So don't fret. Like make your decision, stick to it and your day will be amazing.

40:09Thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me. How was your first pod? It was great. I'm so glad.

40:26Thank you.