Celebrity Stylist Maeve Reilly on Rebuilding Her Wardrobe, the Future of Styling & the Power of Accessories

0:02Hello, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Let's Get Dressed. It's your host, Lib Perez. So much going on in fashion right now. I feel like this month is about to be so much fun for all of us. In case you missed it, Vogue recently announced the new successor to Anna Wintour and her name's Chloe Mall. She has been at Vogue for over 15 years and she is the co-host of the Run Through Vogue's podcast, which I listen to all the time. So I'm a fan of hers and cannot wait to see what she does at Vogue. Lorenza Schooler also announced last week that Rachel Scott is going to be the new creative director after the Parenza schooler men went to Loewe.

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1:12That link is in the description because you guys are my Let's Get Dressed listeners. So go check that out. You're going to love it. Today we are joined by the one and only Maeve Riley. She is a celebrity stylist and creator and also someone who just launched a fashion podcast, which I'm so excited about. I have said so many times that I feel like we need more voices in the fashion podcasting space. And so I'm so excited that she has taken the plunge and joined me. It's just such a fun space to be in. And there's just always so much to talk about, clearly. She is the brains behind some of the most iconic looks from Haley Bieber, Megan Fox, Ava Longoria.

1:47She joins me on the show today to talk about her career journey, the styling industry, and the most personal styling project to date for her, rebuilding her wardrobe after losing everything earlier this year in the Palisades fire. We get into what a capsule wardrobe means to her now, the first pieces that she replaced, why accessories have really been doing a lot of the heavy lifting in her wardrobe, and her go-to three-by-five method that you guys should all be trying at home. Plus, we chat about the internet's obsession with stylist breakups, her favorite under$300 trousers, which are also my favorite, why she's still wearing Sambas, same, and the Kelly that she's been manifesting recently.

2:27I hope you guys love this episode. And when you're done listening to it, make sure you head over to the Inside Edit, her new podcast. You guys are going to love it. Let's go get dressed with Maeve Riley. Hey, Maeve. Hi. Welcome to the pod. Thank you. What a big day for you. I'm honored that you're here. Your pod launched today. It did. How are you feeling? I feel great. I feel vulnerable. I feel nervous I feel also like I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be I guess wonderful yeah I love that lots of feelings as a fashion pod person I'm thrilled to see it expanding I feel like something I say all the time is like there's not enough fashion podcasters granted it's a very visual medium to be speaking about in an audible medium yeah but I think someone like you is primed for it because you're talking about someone who one obviously has incredible expertise in fashion but you bring so much more to the table.

3:20And I think there are a lot of people who want to hear about the world through a fashion lens. Thank you. Yeah, so I'm excited for you. Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. I'm so excited to have you on the show. I've wanted to have you for a long time. One, obviously I've admired your career for so long. We've been friends for so long. So it's been really fun to have a front row seat to all of it. Thank you. But you've also been doing some rebuilding this year in life and in your wardrobe. And I've been really itching to talk to you about that because I think that there are so many valuable lessons to learn from that experience, especially from someone with the level of expertise that you do.

3:54But first, let's give a little boilerplate for everybody. You obviously are a stylist extraordinaire. Tell us a little bit about your way into styling and what kind of gave you your big break. Yeah. Thank you. I'm so happy to do this as well. And you're going to have to come on the inside edit. Please. Anytime. We love a Pod swap. So, you know, I grew up in New York and I started styling when I was basically 18, 17, 18 years old. I, you know, started as an intern and just sort of worked my way through the ranks, like no social media, no, no one was talking about this. It was so like, it was so hard to break in at the time.

4:31I was stalking Rob and Mariel at the time they were styling Rihanna, who to me was just like the end all be all coolest girl still is by the way, coolest girl on planet earth. And I saw a friend on their website. And so I called the friend who had this like very short lived like rapping career and they styled him for. And I called him and I was like, you have to get me in with them. And they just so happened to be in New York, just so happened to need an assistant. And it worked out. They hired me at Fred's Barney's. Oh, no way. Iconic for you. Yeah, it was. It's a memory like that I will never forget, you know.

5:06And so I started working with them and learned a ton. And, you know, just one thing led to the next. I ended up in L.A. after I think like six years of assisting and interning and just trying to get my foot in the door and started doing dancers on music videos. And honestly, just anything I started in the art department. Like I had a friend who was a production designer and I was like, can I just come on set? Can I help just hoping to meet, you know, a director or a stylist on set? and it worked out. And I met a video commissioner who asked me if I wanted to work with Janelle Monet. And then that went on for six years, you know, and I think that was probably the big break that most people know about.

5:48But there was, you know, 10 years of hard work to get to the big break. And then, you know, Haley Baldwin at the time came into my life. She was 18 or 19. And And I was so young too and just had no idea what was in store for us. And that entire saga and relationship was so meaningful and so amazing. And sort of the beginning of this street style, like people really talking about what celebrities were wearing on the street, not just talking about red carpet. And I mean, in the beginning of this, like brands wouldn't loan for street style. You know what I mean? They're like, what are you talking about?

6:28I think you really started the business of street style. Thank you. I mean, if I was to go back, I would say like Bill Cunningham really pioneered street style outside of shows. I think that lens. But I think that era. But that was also just outside of fashion shows. Yes. For the most part. It was like organic. Yes. It's a little different. The first time he photographed me, I like literally died. I just was like, I've made it. You know, the blue coat. The blue coat was everything. I would see him biking around New York City sometimes and be like, oh my God. I know. That's what is a little different, I think.

7:01This is when brands are paying for Haley to wear something from her car to the front door. This is a very different thing. That was a game-changing era. And then with the rise of social media at the same time, it was crazy. It was a crazy moment in time that a lot of people were like, was there some plan? Or there was literally no plan. Like this was just completely organic, whatever it was about the time. It wasn't just Haley. It was her friends, you know, and people were really starting to pay attention to what they're wearing. And I remember being in the club with her one night. I was at One Oak.

7:40OK, I'm date. I'm like, which one in L.A., in L.A. And I'm with her. And I remember looking around the club and like every single girl was dressed like her. And I looked at her and I was like, whoa. something's happening. You know, like this is crazy. I was probably one of those people, not in One Oak, but I was probably one of those people that looked like her. It was a, everyone was feral for it. It was different. I think what was so, what is so special about it is it's recreatable. It's attainable. Like it's the glitz and the glam of a red carpet is obviously magical. Like there's, it's aspirational, but it's not attainable.

8:17It's most people don't get to put on a gown or have full glam and get to recreate that. Whereas you see your favorite influencer now and you're like, oh, I could put that together with stuff that's in my closet. She was in like an amazing pair of jean shorts or like leggings and a great blazer. And that was things that I was going home and being like, wait, I can do that. Yeah. I can look like that. That was what was so cool about it, at least in the beginning. do you think especially being known for that era do you think that in today's world of styling you need to have a signature and that is what makes you successful or do you think that it's a little different now it's such a different world right now it is so saturated and I really do believe that there's enough work for everybody like I'm I'm not of like a scarcity mindset like too many stylists mean there's less work for me.

9:13However, I do feel like there's a big shift in drive and like, and like the grit that it took so many of us to get where we are. Whereas now I seen this girl and by the way, God bless her. I think it's great, but she just has like a cool style on Tik TOK and like SZA hired her because she just has like a cool vibe herself on TikTok. And now she's fully styling SZA. And I'm like, that's incredible. I just think with social media, you know, it's changed a lot. A lot. The access, the, you know, I don't know. I just feel like I went through so much to get where I am. And the younger Jen just doesn't have to do that.

10:00The difference is that people maybe don't understand is it's one thing to look cool, but styling is running a business. Yes, it is. The relationship. Yes. There's so much in the background. Yes. So many things that people don't see. Yeah. And the relationship, just even knowing who to email. Yeah. You get those emails from being an assistant. Yep. Or being around other styles, whatever. Like, I don't even know how you do it if you don't know where to start. Like, I honestly wouldn't. I got all those contacts from assisting, you know? So God bless them. They're figuring it out. I got you. Yeah.

10:35I mean, they're figuring it out. I mean, I think it's less about a signature and maybe more about taste. Like I can tell when it's someone's taste. I think at the time that could be said for my work, especially with Haley, like it was very, very much signature. I mean, it was so collaborative, by the way. I can't take credit because I think Haley is the type of person like you're either born with good taste and style or you are not. And she is the stylist is irrelevant. Like I'm so grateful that I was a part of that, but she still looks great with a new stylist, but it's Haley. You know what I mean?

11:10And I really mean that like in my soul, like every fitting was so like, here's what I think. Oh, okay. That's really cool. But here's the twist that I'm going to add to it. And I'm like, oh my God, even cooler. love that you know I think those are the best relationships me too where it's like 50 50 and you're bringing your own personality at the table the difference is however sometimes like for Megan Fox for instance she came to me and was like I do not have style I do not know what to do tell me what to do and I will do it and that also was a really successful relationship because I think She trusted me and had sort of like a reverence for what I had done with Hales and was like, I just know you can do in my own way.

11:54Like they obviously have completely different style, but she just like was like, do whatever you want. So how are you helping someone in that moment cultivate their personal style? Are there things you're saying, okay, you know, what do you like to shop? Let me see what you're usually looking at. Like what does that process look like for you? A lot of the time it will start in their closet so that I'm seeing what they have. I don't think people should just buy to buy. Like, I really think that people are probably sitting on really amazing pieces and just don't know it. So I like to start there.

12:23And then if they're open to it, cleaning out the closet and sort of getting rid of stuff that, you know, is outdated or just we know you're not going to wear anymore. Some people are hoarders. They want to just keep stuff to keep stuff. She was different. Like she had raised three kids. She was like hiding in Malibu. Her closet still looked like 2003. I'm not kidding. Like, wow. True religion jeans, like the daffodil Louboutin. Yeah. The true religion jeans, low rise. I can see it. Yeah. It was still all there. All there. And I was like, I think it's time to like say goodbye. And she was like, fine, but you better be back in a week, like filling it back up.

13:01Yeah. And, you know, brands in the beginning, like you need to show them what it's going to be like. nobody was willing to get on that train yet until I showed them like, here's where we're headed. Right. And so she was down to invest and buy pieces and fill her closet back up. And that's how we started it. And then when people started seeing her photographed and seeing her with MGK, obviously, that's when people were like, OK, I see it. We'll loan for her now. Even even Haley. I mean, in the beginning, in the early days, no one was loaning for street style. And now they beg. It's all they want.

13:37Yeah. But that's what actually sells these gowns. You know, whereas these brands, I think, started to see that this is converting into serious sales. I'm curious for you as a multi-hyphenate now, like you have a podcast, you're a stylist, you're also active on social, you do brand deals. Like, obviously, from then to now, so many different avenues have opened up as a stylist. Like, is that crucial? Do you think in today's world to be a stylist? Like, do you have to be engaging in all of these different mediums? I don't think you have to be. But I think for me personally, I was getting these opportunities.

14:16And at the end of the day, clients come and go. Right. And I have to be able to support myself and I have to be able to put food on the table no matter who the client is. and knowing that I'm good on camera, knowing that I'm good with, you know, a YouTube video for Revolve, for instance, like that I can do in my sleep. Most people are so good at those. Thank you. I love watching those. Thank you. I love doing them. And it's honestly really easy for me. And I know it's not easy for everyone. So for me, it's like this feels natural. This feels easy. I feel like I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing.

14:53But I think there's some great stylists out there who are not front facing, who don't want to be on camera or don't want to be an influencer. And I think that's amazing, too. I just, for me, saw like there's so many more opportunities. And why why should I just be like in this little box that people want to put me in? You mentioned something earlier about how clients come and go. And something I noticed that is so interesting that I feel like you can speak really clearly to is any time a client switches from a stylist, I feel like the internet goes up in arms. When meanwhile, on the back end, it's probably a bit more casual than that.

15:32It's probably not like something crazy happened. I remember like recently, like when Zoe Kravitz switched to Daniel Goldberg. Yeah. The internet was up in arms. Yeah. On the back end, what does that actually look like when someone chooses to work with a new stylist? I can only speak from my own experience with Haley. We talked about it for probably six months before anyone knew. And I was actually suggesting people. So yeah, there was no drama. There was no like big day where the world ended and Maeve got fired. That's not what happened at all. She's still one of my really good friends. we can talk about the fire but supported me and my family through just beyond above and beyond she and justin above and beyond like we're there for us after the fire so that's what four years after working together i think base for me i can only speak for myself the love was so pure that like I want anyone that I love to have whatever experience they want to have, whether that's with me or not with me.

16:43And it's hard and it's sad and it's heartbreaking. We were like, you know, like we spent so much time together outside of work as well as working together. And so there's like a sadness, like it's almost like a breakup in a way. But when you love someone truly and you want them to have whatever experience they want to have, you support that. And I did. I just was like, I totally understand. We've six years. You have basically grown up with me and you want to try something else. It's like for girls, like you date one guy for six years and you're like, I just need to know what else is out there.

17:21That's how I think of stylists. Yeah. It's like you want to try on a new pair of jeans. You want to try out a new look like I think that it it makes sense. I totally, totally understood it was never it was sad like I said but it wasn't like some dramatic abrupt I mean I literally was like I think you should try this person I think you should try that person what do you think about this yeah we thought about like do we do a little bit of street style together use someone else to red carpet I mean it was just like a really open honest loving communicative like ending What I've learned in fashion is it's all about the community that you build around you.

18:03And there were people that I met in college who I still work with to this day because we all loved fashion and we all came up in fashion. And I get so excited to see their name in my inbox now. Yeah. Like everything comes full circle. You never know who you're going to meet. You don't want to burn bridges. I think it's important, even if something is ending, to keep it as positive as you possibly can. Because fashion is a very, very, very small bubble. This is a very intimate job. Totally. This is the most intimate hair and makeup. Sure. But styling is the most intimate. It is. It is like you are just like, I don't know.

18:40I mean, it's deeply personal. It's about what fits your body. It's about how you feel about yourself, what you feel looks good on you. And I think you see what's going on in their lives. Like you're much more a part of like everything that's going on with them personally. I mean, not everyone, not every client is so forthcoming with their personal life. I would say like, you know, I've been working with Eva Longoria. She is so professional and sweet and kind. And it's not like walls up, but it's very just like, I love you. We work together and then we both go our separate ways and like all good, you know, like, and I think that also comes with the like OGs who've been doing this a long time who just like want to come in to do their fitting and leave as quickly as possible.

19:23And it's not like as fun for them as it is for the younger girls. They just want to like do their job and go back to their families, which I love because so do I now. I love seeing you settled in your new home. I'm very, very happy for you and Zach and the dogs. Thank you. Let's get into that a little bit. Obviously, you've spent so much of your career helping people build their wardrobes. And now at the beginning of this year, you've had to completely rebuild yours from scratch. Tell us a little bit about that experience. You know, the, the experience of like waking up one day and not just having nothing, but like, how do I say it?

20:01It's the strangest feeling to wake up one day and you go to like get dressed and you have nothing. Like I didn't even have underwear, you know, like I didn't even have a pair of socks. I don't think most people will ever experience that feeling so much bigger than just like the wardrobe that I lost. It was like the home that we lost and like the not only the memories, but the future we saw there, the town being gone. I mean, this is like a really loaded situation. Obviously, you know, your family's home was lost. And I think it was the loss of the home that was the scare, like the most thrown off, I think, in the beginning.

20:43But the way that people showed up for us was, I don't even know if I have the words. I've never felt so a part of a community than I did after the fire. The fashion industry is an amazing place. It's also fickle. And yet we lost everything and people just came out of the woodwork to send us stuff to make sure we have, I mean, from everything like socks, skim scent, you know, for both of us, just the boxes kept coming, you know, brands, friends, Haley, you know, friends cleaning out their closets. My friend replaced one of my bags. Like, what was your favorite bag? I want to buy it for you. Like it.

21:25And that's hard for me because receiving is like not the easiest for me because I'm a giver. Like I give to people. It's my job. My job is to like give my energy, my time, my love, my resources to other people. I sometimes will say a client's name more times a day than I'll think of myself, you know. And so to be on this in this place of like, I'm not in a position to say no, like I can't afford to rebuild a closet overnight. Like this is and my husband who also lost everything like we lost our home, we lost everything. So when people were showing up for us, it was a bit uncomfortable because I'd never had to do that before.

22:07I mean, people have always been generous and send gifts at your birthday. Brands are nice, but nothing like this. I can't say I've loved watching you share the experience. I can't, I can't find that doesn't feel right with me. No, I understand. But I have enjoyed watching you very, be very open about the process of both you and your family. And you said something recently when I could tell you like didn't really want to share, but you were like, I've committed to sharing this. Yeah. And so here, like I'm showing up to share it, but I have to say it's really been very, very admirable to watch. Thank you.

22:40That means a lot. I felt like, I don't know, like maybe I was going to want to look back on that part one day or like look back on what my feelings were because they've been such, it's been such a roller coaster and there's been so many different chapters of this, of just the utter shock and then the like the emotion that then comes and the hysterical crying, which I don't do on the Internet, but there has been some very serious, you know, mourning. And I felt like. Yeah, like we're going to rebuild my closet, but I'm like rebuilding my life with my husband and a brand new marriage. I mean, literally six months married.

23:23I was reading the Vogue article that you did on kind of rebuilding your wardrobe. And you said something about having a completely new outlook on fashion now that you've had to start from scratch. Yes. What what is that? I think because when you're starting from scratch, I essentially built like a capsule wardrobe to get myself started. Right. Where you're like, and what were you doing before? I think I had a good base. You know, like I had the denim, I had the blazers, I had great jackets, like I had all those things. And so I was buying pieces that were trendier, like something you maybe wore once or twice.

24:01Give you an example, like the row red jelly, you know, flats. Yes. Love them. But how many times did I really wear those shoes? Twice. Once. Twice. Okay. And so now being in this place of like, I'm like, I will never do that again. At least for today, I'm saying, I don't think I will do that again. And I think I'm being more thoughtful about, is this something that's going to really stand the test of time? Is this something that I'm going to wear for the long haul? And is it worth the money? Like, is it cost per wear worth it? I'm sure as time goes on and we build our stuff back, we'll have those pieces that are fun and exciting and of the moment.

24:45But right now it just doesn't like land for me, I guess. do you think that you would engage with them in a more like for me the way I think about it sometimes is like when I was younger I was willing to splurge on a trend because I felt like that was what was going to make my fashion interesting yeah yeah now I'm willing to engage in a trend but I'm just not willing to spend on it so maybe like a jelly mesh flat or something like that I'll get from like Dolce Vita or Tony Bianco and I'm not getting the rope hair yeah because it's just It's not, I don't need the quality for 10 wears. I need the quality for like four or five.

25:19But the funny thing is I fell victim to those row flip-flops this year. That's crazy. I bought both of them. I bought two colors, okay? No way. But I swear I wear them every day. So I'm like, I wear them every day. Okay. Today's the first day I haven't worn them. Those are the Christopher Esber ones you're wearing. These are Black Suede Studios, but I have the Esber ones too. Do you like the Esber ones? These are actually more comfortable. Noted. Yeah, these are more comfortable. Okay, good to know. but I bought these you know the little mesh mew mew flats that came out with like the leather so cute I love those so much but I'm like I've worn them once and I don't I don't is it because they say mew mew on them no it's not like a shoe that I naturally gravitate towards every day like I'm much more of a flip-flop or a loafer I'm not really a ballet flat girly trying to be sometimes.

26:09Yep. But again, to your point, that's not something I need to invest a ton in, I guess. No, people ask me all the time, like, how do you engage in trends or what, you know, if you're not doing that, then like, how is it not part of the conversation and fashion? And I'm always just like engage in them, but don't spend all your money on them. I think we're also in a time to where like the general style is a bit more toned down, a bit more parry back. It's When Maeve and I, 10 years ago, guys, we were in the F is for Fendi things. And we were in, like we were wearing the logos. Oh, yeah. That's like, that was when I came up in fashion.

26:44There were logos everywhere. Logos everywhere. Everywhere. Off-white was the biggest brand ever. Couldn't wear enough of it. Couldn't wear a brighter pair of Nikes. Nope. With the matching Bottega, you know, clutch that I had in seven colors. Like another good example. Did I need that clutch in seven colors. No, I did not. I did not. As a stylist, are you a believer in this idea of like, if you love something, buy it in multiple colors? Well, I've learned since the fire, like, yes and no, like maybe two. Okay. Like, okay. The row, for instance, the half moon bag. Yep. I love that bag. Yep. It's one of the ones I saved for some reason I grabbed.

27:19I had two, but I grabbed one of them. Oh, I know. Weird. I could tell you the things I saved. It's really ridiculous, but that was one of them. But that's like a great classic. To me, that bag will go on. Two colors. Sure. Even that Bottega pouch. Great. But I didn't need seven. No, I think two accessories. I'll say two because anything more than that, you're just wearing the same thing over and over again. Yep. Basics, though, like I have a tank that I wear from Reformation and I have it in seven colors. Totally different. Totally different. Also not a big spend. It's like, no, you don't need seven Bottegas.

27:55No, but that was like a time you know that was hayley that bag like totally you're talking about the cassette bag yes yes great yeah everyone was wearing that but so i guess i've learned as i've gotten older and as i've lost everything that that kind of thing is unnecessary and there's pieces that like i i made a tiktok about this recently like i had the prada flame wedge the the okay remember the neon and it was like a recreation yes okay what color did you have neon orange right and they hurt so bad I think I wore them one yep and then they sat on the shelf and like yes as a fashion person collector sure but like do I see myself continuing to do things like that probably not what was the first thing you replaced I had this weird experience in the beginning where I really wanted I went into like, OK, get all the things that you that are still available to buy because I wanted the things that I had before.

28:55Right. That felt like still me, I guess. And so there was it was like gathering the things that were still available that I got a lot of. It got weird. We were in Palm Springs like that's where we ended up evacuating, too. And one day we're like, I guess we should go to the outlets. Like what else do you do out here? I bought a the first item I bought, I'm not kidding, was a wool Leweve scarf, like with the tassels. I live in Southern California. Yeah, what are you doing? Don't know, but it was like 200 bucks. And I was like, this is such a good price. I'm going to need a scarf. So I'll throw it in the bag.

29:28Right. Then I found a fantastic overcoat from St. Laurent in the men's section. There you go. At the outlet. Great purchase. And then I ended up finding, I went back a couple months later. They had it in another color. I bought both colors. Great. I bought a puffer from Balenciaga. Okay. Again, Southern California. It does. It does. And we go to the snow. So it's not like a... But it was just a really weird... I can't explain it. It was like walking through like a fog of just... I hate that I'm doing this right now. I don't want to be doing this right now. Like I just want my stuff back. This isn't fun, which was also weird because I love, obviously I've made a living for shopping and it was not fun.

30:18I did not enjoy it. I'm starting to now, but I, I do feel like my relationship with stuff has changed. Seven months later, I do feel different about stuff, but do I feel like I needed that lesson in life? Like not really, but yeah, here we are, you know, share more about the, how you feel about stuff. I'm curious because I wonder if it's just changed the way I mean, one, you're a stylist. So I'm curious how it's changed the way you've consumed yourself. But also, has it changed the way that you engage with clients in any way? I think that I think that I'm trying to I'm trying to think about how to say this without it sounding crazy.

31:00I don't feel a huge shift in like, I don't need anything like, you know, I think it could have gone one of two ways. It could have been like, you know what, Zach, fuck it. Let's move to Bali. You know what I mean? Like we're done here because there's a part of both of us that we would like love that life. But is it realistic? Probably not. And I actually know someone who went through this fire and said, you know what? I'm not living my authentic life. I'm moving my family to Europe and we're going to travel and we're going to have a whole new life experience. Wow. And I think that's so dope. Agree.

31:31I almost wish that that's where we were, but we have such deep roots here that I just don't think that was in the cards for us. Also, call me crazy. I'm not someone. I mean, look, I'm I'm I'm jealous of the family that went to Europe, but I'm also not someone that makes big decisions like that in times of trauma. I have like that rule. I'm like, you don't make decisions when you're mad. You don't make decisions when you're going through shock. I always say if you don't know what to do, don't do anything. Don't do it. Yeah, that's just my rule. Until you are crystal clear of what the movies just sit tight.

32:00Right. So tell me what the like Maeve 2.0 starter pack looks like. Like what is what's in there now that you are super excited about? I think it's more simple. I think it's much more like it's much more classic. It's a bit more elevated. But the thing that's also interesting is I'm older. I'm like in a different place in my life. I'm a stepmother. I'm God willing a mother soon. You know, like I just I'm growing up, too. So the stuff that was there before was also very my younger years, like mixed with now, whereas I guess the glass half full, as you say, is like, this is who I am moving forward.

32:38And I will miss there were some really special, one of a kind, unspeakable pieces in that house. Very sad about, but it's OK. You know, it's it's it really is just stuff. You can't take it with you at the end of the day. It doesn't make me who I am, it came back. It already came back. It's only been seven months. Yeah. I have like a full closet. Like I'm, I'm okay, you know, and these horrible things can happen, but just like anything else, time heals and it's like literally okay. You know, go to pair of jeans, vintage Levi's always always do you tailor them sometimes but no mostly no where are you getting them from the dig in Venice which I regretfully tell you guys because the last time I shouted this guy out he said he sold out the store I love him so I wish that for him but then everyone say thank you for not gatekeeping me yeah exactly I it's funny I walked in there I had done a tick tock saying you know this is where I get my favorite Levi I walked in maybe two weeks later and he's like Maeve what the hell like I have and this girl pops out of the fitting room she's like I'm here because it's so funny you're like give me a cut sir literally yeah okay go to white tea oh you know I have this rag and bone one that I love wow very random and I really like skims and I really like helsa those are my if I had to pick three go to jacket that's not a leather jacket and not a denim jacket.

34:17Oh, well, I'm always like a wool coat, like a long wool coat. We're in California. I know, but not like thick. Just like a overcoat vibes. An overcoat vibe. You are always in a great trench. A coat is very important to me. Yes. And I will say, I think a trench is being typecasted too much. I agree. It's like only comes out in the fall and the winter. And I like want to wear my trench when it's like 70 degrees at nighttime sometimes. I think you can. Yeah. Still here makes a really good one. It's very thin. I just used it in a Revolve video. It's super, super thin, like the perfect transitional piece.

34:55Everything. Yeah. Everything. Go-to pair of sneakers right now. I'm still in Sambas. Love. Same. Thank you. I feel like the internet sometimes like we're over Sambas and I'm like, okay, cool. Be over them. But where are you going? Yeah. What's next? Where are you going? I don't have the what's next yet. I'm not buying the Dries ones. You bought the Wales Bonner ones. I do love the Wales Bonner ones. They're very cool on you. One of the things I saved. What do you think is the it bag right now? What's on your wish list? Ooh, well, in the spirit of investing in things, I'm actually feeling like I'm ready to be a Kelly girl.

35:29I don't have one yet. So in the spirit of not over buying and really just buying pieces that will stand the test of time, like I've been talking about, I feel ready for a Kelly 25 or a mini Kelly. What color? Give me the order. Give me the prescription. Neutral. Black and gold. You know, that would be the dream. Obviously, ivory, tan, you know, anything just very neutral. Love. What has been the last thing that you've replaced in your closet? I'm curious. Ooh. Like what's the thing that's just been like, you've been like, oh, I don't really have that. And maybe I don't actually need it. Ooh. That's such a good question.

36:05I think I didn't go too crazy on summer stuff. for whatever reason. Well, we kind of live in perpetual summer. Yeah. But I actually sort of disagree with that. I definitely wear seasonal clothing in Los Angeles. Call me crazy. No, I agree with you. And also, if not, I go a little crazy. Like, you know, in the winter, when it's not actually winter, I will wear my coats just to feel something. I do want to ask you about the three by five method. Yeah. Because I love a fashion trick. Thank you. Like I love something that someone could take into their closet and just whip up and feel really good. So tell me what three by five is.

36:42So this is something that Revolve and I sort of developed. I do a lot of YouTube for them, which is so fun. But this in particular is about creating a capsule wardrobe and basically taking five items from three different categories. So five tops, five pans. Our most recent one was like a work wear. So we did layering pieces, thinking about moving into fall more than anything. Basically, styling all of these pieces multiple ways, which I guess I would think is a no-brainer because that's how I shop. Like, I think it's probably how you shop too. You're buying pieces that are going to mix well into your wardrobe.

37:20And I think that's a great tip for anyone who's like, how do I, you know, spice it up? It's like, well, yeah, buy new pieces, but make sure it works with what you have. Yes. And so this video, this concept is basically showing people, you know, here's two different ways to wear these pants, style differently, showing just how accessories can change an outfit. I think, I mean, accessories change everything. That was a big thing that I think I doubled down on after the fire was my outfits can be simple, sure, but a great belt. To me, a belt is a piece of jewelry. Agree. Great necklace. You know, I mean, heaven mayhem, God bless Pia, like sent me every freaking earring that they made and necklace and glass.

38:00I mean, just truly like my jewelry was, it's crazy how much has been replenished already, but I really lean into how simple pieces can really elevate a look and change the entire dynamic of an outfit. Where do you get belts from? Ooh, some of my favorites. They honch. That's how you say it. I think so. How do you say it? No, I think you're 100 % right. I just had never said it aloud. So when I heard it, I was like, damn. How did you think? No, I think that's how you say it. Okay. There was no think. I didn't think. Dehanche, Below the Belt, does a great one, which I think is a great price. Yeah, like Aurum.

38:37Aurium. Love them. Love them. Okay. And then if you want to splurge, obviously Kate has beautiful pieces. Some of them I think are a little trendy and really expensive, but the classic ones are worth it. Saint Laurent obviously is going to have a beautiful belt that's simple. I had a Bottega belt that I haven't been able to replace. So but I don't feel like you need to spend a ton. I don't either. Yeah. I really like playing into different metals and having different colors. I just think a belt is it really ties an outfit together. A belt is jewelry. I love that you said that. Yeah. It's not holding my pants up.

39:12No. It's matching my earrings. Tailor your pants. And then exactly. Funny, dude. Yes. So good. It's really true. OK, so three by five. I like the idea of like like putting a garment rack out, putting those five pieces and just from each category and just styling it out. I bet you that you could have a very succinct wardrobe that way. Yeah. And I think also showing people, listen, I love working with Revolve, obviously. And the intention is to show people what's available to buy. But a lot of these pieces people have in their closet and maybe just by seeing it, you're like, oh, I can do that. A hundred percent.

39:46You know, I love that. It's great. Again, I love a fashion tip. Thanks. What's a newbie brand that you love? Oh, that's a good question. Newbie brand that I love. Oh, I'm going to mess this up, but I like, I feel like I have so many. I have to think about go back and what I've been buying. I love Totem. I mean, I saw you post. I was there this weekend. I have a field day. I think it's beautiful. I think it's beautiful. And I think it's incredibly well priced. I agree. So like comparatively, you know, I talk a lot about the Aritzia effortless pant, which is like $150,$200, right? And that's like, you know, to me, it's not Zara fast fashion, but it's like, it's a step above.

40:28Like you're investing a little bit more. You're going to get a lot more wear out of it. Totem, which to me in my mind feels like this like very ultra exclusive designer had a great pair of tailored trousers that were like immaculate, beautiful. And I think they were like 525. And a lot of, you know, the row is selling trousers for$1 ,200 these days. So I was like, that's a great price range for someone who wants to invest in a good pair that they're going to wear so many times. I agree. You'll probably have them for a decade. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. I think some have gotten so out of control. Like I am the biggest Kate fan, but the prices are just are unbelievable.

41:03Too high. Unbelievable. Too high. Just too high. Some of it. I just can't. I can't do it. What are your favorite pants? Oh, you know, I really like these Enza Costa pants. Have you gotten them yet? Plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus. And 225. Something in there. Don't quote me. 225, 250, something in there. Unbelievable. There's a new one they just did with like a waistband with a drawstring. No, the drawstring one. Oh no. Okay. There's a drawstring one. I got like a blue striped. I mean, I just love this brand for their pants. I love them so much. I get them dry cleaned. that says a lot.

41:38That's your like benchmark. If you put them in the washing machine, they shrink a little. Well, they're linen, aren't they? Yeah. I fucked up my white ones. I'm hoping the dry cleaner that I'm about to actually go to after this. Yeah. Fix them. Yeah. I love them so much. So like I'm willing to schlep them. I wear them so much that like they need to go to the dry cleaner like every two weeks. Yeah. And I'm doing that for them. I like that. I'm dedicated. I have many colors. They're so good. That's another benchmark for me too is like, is this something I want to get the other colors in? And I do.

42:03If you love it, buy it in every color, as I say. Yeah. Last question to close out. If there are people listening who want to be stylists, want to get into the industry, what's your best piece of advice? It's the answer that nobody wants to hear, but go work for other people. Hell yeah. It's like, go be an intern and figure out how to work and pay your bills. But you need to intern. You need to get in the door with the people that you look up to, you admire, make friends with the assistant get in the door and stay there don't be a flake don't come for three days and then bail or that is the thing I see the most these days and you know if you actually stick around we're gonna know you know that oh she she keeps showing up you know and there's always job opportunities when you continue to show up so I think it's like work hard and And if you can figure out how to work for free, just get in there.

42:58Happy podcast launch day. Thank you. Love you. I love you. Thanks for coming on the show. Thanks for having me. I loved it. Love you.

43:23Thank you.