Gab Waller's Must-Have Pieces, Styling Tips & Most Requested Pieces for Summer 2025

0:01Hi, everyone. Welcome back to another episode of Let's Get Dressed. It's your host, Liv Rez. Summer is so close. I feel like I can taste it. With Memorial Day right around the corner, I feel like that is always the inaugural weekend of summer. Like we're bringing out our summer outfits, we're barbecuing, we're by the pool, ocean, whatever. It's just the kickoff to summer. And so with the new season upon us, I'm so excited to have on a person who always tells me what I need for my closet before it blows up. And that is the one and only Gab Waller. For those of you who don't know Gab, She's been on the podcast before.

0:37This is her third time on the show. She's a repeat Let's Get Dresser. That's kind of cute. She's a Let's Get Dresser. I love that. But so this is her third time on the show. And Gab has become the go-to sourcer in the fashion industry. She specializes in global product sourcing and personal shopping for some of your favorite people on Instagram, like Rosie Huntington-Whiteley, Sophia Richie Grange, Hailey Bieber, and so many more. I feel like if you're someone in fashion who is really looking for something and you can't find it, the phrase get it from Gab has become very popular. So ahead of the new season, Gab is here talking to us about summer 2025 trends, the most requested items that have hit her DMs lately, the things that she's seeing sell out super quick, and of course, all the things that you'll want to be wearing this summer.

1:21I hope you guys love this episode. Let's go get dressed with Gab Waller. My favorite podcast repeat offender is here. How many times have you been on this pod now? This is your third. I think this is my third. Third time lucky. The only person that I've had consistently back. Really? I'm just obsessed with you, Gab. Feeling is mutual. Come on. Everyone is. We love a Gab Waller episode. That's so nice. I'm so happy to be back. Welcome back. And I come in to chat. Yay. How have you been? What's going on? I've been good. I've been doing a lot of travel. I got back from Canada. Okay. I did a one night trip to Canada for an event.

1:55And then I leave for New Zealand and Australia on Sunday. I'm so jealous. I love New Zealand. I think it's the best. It's so beautiful. Yeah. It's just one of those places that like I would go back a dozen times, have the best trip. Thank you. What are you going back for? So I am hosting a lunch down there. So I'm going with a company called the Luxury Network. Okay. Same company that I went with last year around the same time. And essentially I'm hosting a lunch for I think it's about 150 guests. Wow. It's sold out, which I'm so happy about. That's so crazy. see your impact the gab waller impact i can't wait to see everyone and yeah it'll be so good yay i'm so excited for you well first of all we always start the show with what you wore to pod and i'm like loving what you have on what are these pants oh my gosh okay these pants they're vintage okay tom ford faguchi era yeah i'm just i'm upset i asked yes no it's to the point that I need them in, like if I got a different color, absolutely.

2:56But I would probably buy another pair if I found them. Just like you have them for life. Yes. Yeah. I get that. They fit so well. The cut's so great. And I just obviously love that era. And then this, it's a bodysuit. It's by a brand called The Park. Are you familiar? I was just wearing that. Oh, I love it. I love The Park. Yes. It's so good. The materials are amazing. Best quality. So good. I feel fantastic in this. It's kind of like sweat proof. That's how I feel. I wore one of their long sleeves a couple of days ago and this is my first time wearing this bodysuit. I just, it also just, I feel snatched.

3:31It's really like still feels snug. It feels like, this is like maybe kind of gross, but like it feels like one of those pieces that you don't have to wash a lot. Like they feel like jeans, like they don't actually feel like jeans, but the material to me is like it gets better with wear. You don't have to like throw it in the wash every time you wear it, right? Yes. Yeah. That's great. That's what we want. I was wearing their leggings. The Roe little thong sandals, which I love. We're loving a thong sandal right now. We'll get into that. Yes, definitely. Okay, so by the time this episode comes out, we'll be about a month away from the official start of summer, and it will be right before Memorial Day.

4:06So obviously, summer is on everyone's minds, what we're wearing. What are some trends that you're seeing, just high level? Let's start there of some things that you're excited to see this summer. Absolutely. So number one, I know for certain we are going to be seeing a lot of raffia. That is pretty standard across each season when this time of the year comes around, but I can dive into like which specific pieces, but definitely raffia is like a strong texture. It's like the summer mascot. Yes. Yeah. The same, you know what? I was going to say the same way as suede is for winter, Yeah. But in saying that, suede is going to carry through to spring summer this year.

4:47100%. And I would say it's not certainly a world's first, but it's something that I haven't really seen before this strongly. One example, and this one I think you'll enjoy, is the Balenciaga Lee City bag has made a comeback. Bella Hadid wore it. I love that bag. So good. So good. But the brown suede has been one of my best sellers over the past, I would say, three weeks. I don't think they've sourced any from the US yet. So I'd be curious to see if it's launched here. We've been getting a lot from Europe and the UK, but everyone's loving it. I have one from my mom that's baby blue, oversized, like a travel duffel.

5:24And for years, I never brought it out. And for years, I was like, do I give this back to my mom? Like I'm not really wearing it. So I'm primed for this comeback. You're ready. I'm so ready. Even when I've posted it on stories, there have been clients that have replied being like, wait, I have that bag packed away in suitcases somewhere. Like I need to bring it back out. I said, yes, it's back. Everything does come back around. And I'm sure anyone that has held onto that bag is very happy about it. Chanel just had their resort show for 2026 in Lake Como. And there were multiple suede outfits that came out.

5:59They were like a light tan capris with a little jacket. And I was like, okay, if Chanel says that suede is for a resort, here we are. 100%. Yeah, I loved it. I thought it was very chic. That collection was unbelievable. Truly, at the end of the day, I think whatever Chanel says and Mimia goes. Goes. They really, it's the go-to every season. They've also just, oh, I'm actually speaking a little bit early. In about a week, they will officially launch their Cocoa Beach collection that they launch every year and that is it's going to be a sold out collection but again yeah anything Chanel does it's going to be popular and it will sell out.

6:39I also will add that Pantone when they came out earlier this year and said that Mocca Moose was the color of the year although we've had brown suede I still feel that brown suede is continuing on and even as we speak I am still seeing pieces being requested in that style. But that mocha light brown suede is definitely what will be the color that will be seen heavily throughout summer. Another thing I'm loving for summer and the reason why I feel like suede is persevering is just the revival of like boho chic. Yes. Everything. Like, yes, I'm seeing ruffles everywhere. I'm seeing fringe everywhere.

7:22Like, I think we're really I think this summer it's just going to be the thing that we see everywhere. Definitely. I will credit Chloe to that by far. Yeah. That first Chimina collection that dropped, it was like, we're on. We're back. It is doing so well. It's honestly incredible. And I think, you know, I think those feminine tones overall, which is that more boho chic girl. And even speaking on behalf of myself, I never would have envisioned myself as that girl. But suddenly I'm buying Khloe. For me, I'm back on the fringe. Like I am never someone who I thought would like fringe. And maybe because like five or 10 years ago, the idea of fringe was like a suede jacket with fringe on it.

8:09And that felt like a little too Western for me. But there are so many summer dresses. I just wore one on my Instagram that was yellow from Nanushka. Yes. And it was like a knit bodycon dress, yet like a butter yellow. And at the bottom it had this like fringe kind of like totem inspired a little bit yeah and I'm so all over that for summer I love yes absolutely it's a great point that you did raise because when you do think of fringe you do think of the classic jacket so I love it I love it on a dress yeah this is more delicate like I wouldn't even say it's fringe it feels like frayed like it's almost like they took scissors to the end of it and like let the yeah like that's what I'm loving Kate does a great job at that with many of their designs.

8:54I haven't scoped it out for any of their current pieces, but they love doing that on some of their dresses. Yeah. It just adds this like, it can be an edgy look, but it adds this like little bit of like delicateness to an outfit. Yes. Yeah. I also noticed after I was in Paris for February fashion week and Zimmerman is not usually a brand that I would go to, but it feels like a little sister of Chloe. It is. Right? Yes. Yeah, I can see that. But more so than ever. Like Zimmerman, I feel like used to be like more doilies and like more like summer. This is, I feel like they have now made a very sharp pivot to be the Chloe little sister.

9:34I love that. Yeah. It's very boho. I'm here for that. I think that's smart of them to do also. Yeah, for sure. The timing's ripe. Yes, definitely. I also just think, because when I do think of Zimmerman, I think I still have that image in my head of that heavy floral print. Same. With like the lace kind of trim. Yes. So I love that they're doing that. Yeah. They went for a shift. Yes. I'm down a little bit. Sorry. I just don't want to hit your face. No, that's okay. Okay. So we've got sheer. We've got kind of boho vibes, a little bit of fringe. It all feels really like romantic and flowy and not, it feels summery, but not like, I don't want to say basic, not like your standard summary.

10:16Yes. Yeah. I'm trying to think of, you know, previous years. Of course, it's always going to be Raffia, but this is the first year that I have seen in my, I'm going to say since my sourcing days, that boho chic is going to be top of the pyramid and that feminine revival. when I think of colors for the season I also think of very feminine soft colors you've got the pink the baby blue butter yellow butter yellow is staying strong this season I love it yes I just like gravitate towards that like soft yellow color so much and I think it's a really good transitional color if you're like trying to get in the spring summer mood and you're still in your dark colors.

11:02Like a little butter yellow goes a long way. It's just delicious. It is. Yeah. So definitely, I think in terms of colors, that's what we will see. Love that. I believe. Okay. Let's get into shoes a little bit. Let's talk about flip-flops. Yes. Okay. I am someone who you would never see in a flip-flop, but I'm so here for it right now. Okay. Yeah. What made you change your mind on them? Last summer I was going on vacation and And I usually have my like leather thong sandals that I bring on every beach vacation, right? They're like so elevated and great. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to this hotel.

11:39I'm going to be on the beach. Like I want a Javiana. Yeah. So I Amazon Prime to Javiana and I have been wearing them ever since. And I think I will say, I'm going to disclaimer this, that like if you live in New York, do not wear a flip-flop. It's just not the vibe. Like not even that. Like the streets are so dirty. I would never. but living in LA if you're living in a place where you're in a car a lot I'm really loving just that like back to basics flip-flop right now yes I styled it with a linen suit the other day like linen shorts and a blazer and like a little t-shirt and my Bottega hop and it was so cute I love that yeah I will admit I'm the biggest flip-flop fan we call them thongs I just feel they are so easy to style.

12:26Last year, the Christopher Esbar ones absolutely took off. The Rowe did something similar. The only thing I will say, and I don't think this is, it might be just a, I don't know if it's an unpopular opinion, but the Rowe style from this season. Not for me. No, they're not worth it. It's literally plastic and cotton. Yes. Yes. when I see people in them, I'm like, I'm really happy for you. But that's it. Like, I'm really happy that you have that expendable cash. And that's it. Like, I'm not like, oh, you look chic. I'm like, congrats for having$700 spare. That's it. Yes. And if my DMs are saying anything, I've not received a single request for them, which you haven't received a single request for the real flip flops.

13:15Correct. From this season, the red ones. Exactly. Yes. Wow. And they sold out. yes yes so people aren't looking for them beyond the sellout that's interesting yeah I think that's telling because also yes they're 700 then you're paying even though my fee is limited you are paying my fee on top of that right is it like how much would you really desire that style right just buy a Javiana guys honestly Javiana makes these like really cute like there's like jewels on the front oh again this collaboration with I'm going to chop the name and I hope this isn't offend like I don't offend anyone that I don't know about gigmas.

13:51Gimgwas. Yes. I actually didn't see. Oh, I did see that, but I haven't seen the shoes. Yes. So I actually saw these sequiny ones on a friend, a content creator last summer. She like showed them on her Instagram and I, and they're like black with like multicolor kind of rhinestones on the strap. Interesting. And they're so cute and fun. If you're like on holiday somewhere. I love that. I'm so here for it. I just think they're cute and fun and like there's something about summer dressing to me that is like I become a kind of a different person it's really effortless and I kind of want to bring in all these like different tones and colors and gems and like it's different than how I usually dress because I think summer is such like a happy time that I'm willing to kind of put myself out on a limb a little bit more so if you see me in jeweled flip-flops don't be surprised don't be surprised just be like all right I will be there right beside you because I'm the exact same I think naturally this is by far my favorite time of the year.

14:47I thrive more in summer and I prefer to dress in summer dressing as opposed to for winter. Same. Yeah. I don't know actually. I like a layer sometimes. You are a queen of layering too. I'm just like a layer. I love a layer. You do it so well. Thank you, Dad. Thanks. But yes, the flip-flop thong and I will say the Christopher Asper ones that I have that really did pop off, I wear them so much with everything. I'm actually surprised I'm probably not even wearing them right now. These ones are from The Row. She's wearing like a brown thong plastic. Yes. These are a couple of years old now. But see, this is something that if it's sold out, I would pay to get my hands on, but not.

15:27Those are leather. Yes. Number one. Yeah. Those are leather. Do you have any sandals that are most requested right now for summer? So one that I am seeing coming through is, so Aliyah just dropped their new collection. They just released a raffia wench, which came out in Paris. I'm sure it's hitting US any day now. So in terms of shoes, the other one that I am seeing, so Miu Miu Real Summer, in my opinion. Like anything that Miu Miu is putting out, it is going to... Like the raffia hat. Oh my gosh, the raffia cowboy hat. Hasn't that been a popular one? Yes, I knew it from the moment I saw it. I just knew that clients would jump on that.

16:09So, and I think that also perhaps plays into that Western feel that is simmering and sitting there as an appealing trend. I mean, suede, same thing. Suede, I think is going to persevere through summer. Yes, definitely. But one style from Miu Miu that I have my eyes on is, well, we haven't really discussed ballet flats in general and whether, you know, we obviously saw the Alaya Fishnets take over the world two years ago. but this season Miu Miu have just released it's a mesh ballet flat it's white and they've got the little logo on the shoe and I think perhaps again you know that move out of quite luxury and clients wanting to wear pieces where the logo is shown they are the perfect style oh god guys please don't bring back logo mania oh yeah I hated it there I really hated it there that was the bad place for me.

17:06No, it's so funny because that's when I started my career. Like you would all of us did. Yeah. It was Logomania. Yes. Oh, that's so funny. I have. I'm triggered. I didn't like it. She has PTSD from Logomania. Yeah. Yes. I will say some of the pieces that I got during that phase. Oh, bad. Like not good. Just and I think I was buying it. That was also just when I started my career and I was still sorry, my sourcing career. And I was still trying to separate my personal style from what was being requested. And so what was coming in, I was like, oh, I want that. Yeah. I'm like, that's not my style.

17:42No, I don't. Never wear that normally. So I'm glad I grew out of that quickly. And we love your personal style. Yeah, of course. What do you think about jelly flats? Oh, great question. Yes. I like them. I'm going to reference the Chloe jelly flats? Are they the ones you were envisioning? Yes. Well, there's actually a few out there. The Chloe jelly flats are like tiny heel, thong with a full back and an ankle strap, right? Correct. Yes. I also have seen a lot of like Aliyah style mesh, but jelly flat. Okay. Those I don't love. They feel a little like beach shoe-y. They feel a little like water shoe vibes.

18:28Yeah. The Chloe jelly I could get behind if styled right. Yes. I will say the reason why I like the jelly Chloe is perhaps because of that toe and the ankle strap. It's just a little bit more. Yeah. It's a little bit more elevated than I know what you're referring to. I, when I think of those, I think of the row. Was it the ones that broke? Yeah. And it was like last year. Yes. Everyone was complaining that they broke. I mean, yeah, it's plastic. Yes. Yes. So I personally wouldn't touch a jelly flap that has that kind of vibe for fear of, well, unless it's, you know, if you go in luxury, no, you do not want to enter that realm.

19:08Yes. But the Chloe ones, absolutely. I feel like you're safe. I also think that the Chloe ones, they did a good job of making them in a very appealing color. They're like a light blush. They're like a brownie blush. Yes. Yes, exactly. And also a pinky purple, more towards a purple. which I think is like nice nice on the skin like it's not like a red or an orange and it's something that just kind of blends into an outfit I've never been a PVC girl it's just never been I can't see you in a PVC style I just don't like the fact that you can like see toes you know one of the most what are you wearing now I love these toys I love it.

19:54I wear these stories literally every podcast episode. The most traumatizing question I've ever been asked on Instagram is, hey, Liv, I'm looking for a ballet flat, but can you find me a ballet flat that shows toe cleavage? Toe cleavage? Yeah. Toe cleavage. And then I didn't know how to respond, so I didn't because, you know, maybe someone else can give a better answer. And then I didn't hear that phrase for a while. And then I actually saw it again recently on Substack. Someone was like, hey, can someone find me flats with toe cleavage toe cleavage just to confirm and know what we're talking about is the front of the ballet flat is thin enough where the in-betweens of your toes are showing oh I thought we were so the cleavage like bust cleavage like the in-between of your toes is showing that is hilarious I've never heard of that gab would you like to see toe cleavage I'm gonna pass on that right I wonder if it's like actually an aesthetic thing or is it like a is it like an airflow thing oh and that's my thing with pvc it's like there's no airflow down there yes great point I am not saying that toe cleavage is the answer to the pvc thing guys let me just make that perfectly clear toe cleavage should be abolished that is hilarious I would love for this to be my first and last time I'm so sorry I've brought this into your orbit.

21:20I'm really so sorry. Because when I put on my little Chanel ballet flats, I'm like, now I'm going to see if I have. No, Chanel ballet flats do not give big clothes. They give perfect toe cleavage in my mind. That's so funny. I don't know why also my brain went to like the end of the toes. No, no, no. Like the lines between your toes. It has to be airflow. To some people, the more the better. That is hilarious. No. Thank you for that. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. But okay. You know what? I think one of my challenges is going to be to go and try on those Chloe jelly flats and see how I can style them. Yeah.

21:56You know what? That would be a great challenge in general to like go into the Chloe store and try them on and then see what they look like with different looks. I'm trying to think of how they have styled them on within the campaign. I saw it because I actually looked at I read your vote column, obviously. but the way that you the ones that you linked were styled were like with like a mini dress with like ruffles cute and yeah I think if they're I'm willing to give them a try I think that pair specifically is really elevated so if people are listening right now being like oh I love the jelly shoe just try to find one that feels a little bit more sophisticated I agree on my sub stack right now I wrote like a flip-flop story and I think there's a pair from Veronica Beard linked in there That's a flat thong sandal, but the actual like thong is jelly, but it's like a, it's like a tortoise jelly.

22:45I could try it. Yes. And it's really refined. I would go for that. I just got myself a pair of shoes that I've been wearing nonstop that I think I'm going to be wearing all summer. And believe it or not, they're actually a pair of loafers. They're the leather Dylan loafer from Jenny Kane. And I am so obsessed with them. I know some of you are probably being like, wait, a loafer for summer. like that so fall winter vibe. But something I've been saying a lot about in the world lately are these like moccasin style loafers that are really soft, polished, and the total opposite of chunky. And I love them for summer with a pair of like loose jeans and a tee or maybe a cute pair of linen shorts and a matching linen blazer.

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24:40The thing that I've messaged you about a thousand times at this point. Yes. I feel like we are in a very distinctive moment for sneakers. I'm seeing so many retro styles. I feel like this started with like the Miu Miu sneaker and has now trickled down to like the Dries sneaker that is constantly sold out. You can't really find them anywhere. They just dropped new colors. What do you think of this retro style and what's a sneaker that you think everybody should have for the summer? Great question. So I definitely think the retro style is here to stay. I still think the Dries are a must have in my opinion.

25:13And the reason for that is they are such an excellent price point. They're$350. The Dries? Yes. Unless they've had a price increase. Oh, yeah, girl. They have. Are they$400 now? Intermission to find out the price. Okay. The new ones that just dropped are$475. Okay. The metallic ones are$565. Damn. That's a massive jump. They did not used to be that high. Massive jump. I'm just like $500 on a sneaker. I'm not in the mood. Yeah. Okay. I hear you. Mew Mew on the other hand, goodness. $1 ,000. Yes. I wonder what the New Balance sneakers are up to at this present time. But in saying that, retro, absolutely.

25:53I also think they're just so easy to style. A hundred percent. That to me is why, and you know what, I think this is all happening because sambas were such a big thing last year, that that kind of flat, low to the ground, not chunky, streamlined style. Yes. You know, I lived in New York for 10 years and my sneaker collection was crazy. I had every sneaker on the planet and I was wearing them 24-7. Since moving back to LA in the last five years, it's been amazing to see what I've gotten rid of and what I've kept. And the sneaker that I turn to every day is a Samba because it's just so easy to style.

26:28Yes. You don't have to really like, there's not an element to it that you have to take into consideration like you would with maybe a New Balance 990, which I wear to work out and walk all the time, but it's a chunkier style. So, you know, you've got to wear the right jean with it. You know, you've got to like play with proportions there. Definitely. But this retro kind of like bowling style shoe, is just so easy. I agree. I love it. And still to this day, the requests are coming in for the Miu Miu New Balance, predominantly in the OG colors, but they're introducing new colorways. They just brought out this beautiful new light tan colorway that I received requests for.

27:05So that collaboration as a whole is absolutely not going away anywhere. And it's brilliant. But I also think that falls into this category of the smaller, daintier sneaker. Yes, because you think on the flip side, what are your thoughts on the Solomon just as a sneaker style? It's interesting you're bringing this up because I don't have a pair and I was going to buy a pair for Japan to walk around in. Solomons I like as a concept, but I just don't think they're good for my wardrobe right now. Yes. Yeah. They're just a little too athletic for my unathletic self. No, that's exactly it. Because when you think of, they're not a fashion sneaker in my opinion.

27:40I see them everywhere in LA, but when I do see them being worn, And they're obviously being worn in more active and active style. So I think for the LA girls, like great sneaker. We pretty much love to wear our active out here. But as a fashion sneaker, no, you're not wearing them, at least in my opinion. You know, with jeans and different looks that you would be wearing with the Dries sneakers, as an example. I did find a good dupe recently on Dolce Vita for people who are not looking to spend$500 on shoes. And they were like$100. They have them in a few different colors. and they're pretty similar.

28:15Okay. Not to be the dupe person, but you know, summer's around the corner. We got to be helpful where we can, you know? Yeah. This is true. Yeah. I know. You brought up a pair of raffia flats earlier and I feel like I have not in the past, obviously everybody needs a good raffia bag and we'll get into that, but raffia flats, I feel like are kind of new. Yes. Like the Chanel raffia flats dropped two months ago and I was like, I don't think I've really seen a lot of raffia shoes in the past. Is that just a me thing? What do you think? No, you're absolutely right. I completely agree. The Chanel raffias absolutely accelerated it.

28:51I think I would have picked up this season. Prada also have a pair which were in my most recent Vogue column. And I remember when they went up for pre-order, I'm like, they're going to be popular. It's kind of surprising that we haven't had a lot of like, you know, Miu Miu style viral raffia shoes in the past. When I first saw those pop up I was like oh wow those are gonna go so fast yeah what are your favorites right now Chanel season after season collection after collection and I would say with those with that style in particular so they did four variations they did the blue the pink see even Chanel knows blue and pink are just the colors and then they did the white and then they did the all like yes so I would say the white and the classic raffia have been the most popular but requests they've still been coming in for the blue and the pink.

29:41So they're so cute. And you know what the best thing about it is I haven't heard any feedback about them being uncomfortable or tearing. Like they are quite delicate. Yeah. So that's fantastic news also. I always get people asking are Chanel ballet flats comfortable? And mine are. I think especially the leather ones get really soft over time and really comfortable. I have a pair of tweed ones that have like really kind of molded to my feet quite nicely. I mean, look, with any shoe that's like rounded and kind of fits the top of your foot into something, you're going to feel a little pressure. But it's not like I get crazy blisters from them.

30:15I think they're a really comfortable, great shoe. I'm not wearing them around like a day of walking in Paris, but I'll wear them around for a day of meetings. I'm in my car. Like, I think they're such a great shoe. I agree. My leather ones are probably my most worn flat. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. The one thing that does make me a little sad is, did you see the pink suede ones that I posted? Yes. And they're like a bubblegum pink suede. Yes. Stunning. Like absolutely love it. I'm still breaking them in, but I thought it'd be a smart idea to wear them to the airport for Canada. Like what was I thinking?

30:52I just wanted them to have an airport travel moment. And yeah, they were a little uncomfortable for that but they are the they're not leather so they're just a little bit more stiffer I think suede shoes are really hard especially flats in light colors like I have chocolate brown suede dark like a black suede but it's gonna get dirty I know I'm sending you love and well wishes that was the other thing too I remember putting they're so cute they're so cute they just now I'm almost like they're great to look at because anytime I wear them there's like another black mark on them. I'm like, this is great.

31:27Get a little suede cleaner. Yeah. Yes. Okay. What do you think is going to be the bag of the summer? Oh, okay. So I can tell you straight away that the Miu Miu Crochet Pouch Bag bestseller demand through the roof still to this day. And that's demand that's been consistent over a year. So it's to the point that it is by far my most requested bag. And I think it sells so well because it is like Miu Miu call it a pouch. So it is priced better than a classic Miu Miu handbag or whatever it may be from other brands. I think we're still going to be seeing that everywhere. The other one is Chanel 25 bag.

32:13Yes. What are your thoughts on this one? I would sell an organ. for the Chanel 25 bag. The small one in black specifically, if anyone's listening that wants to. You don't need that bag. That is like a live bag. It is so me. I think this is the third podcast we've now talked about it. I just think it's like the perfect combination of like a chic everyday meets work. Yes. Chanel bag. Like I will wear that bag every day for the next 10 years. Definitely. Yeah. It is so good. And I see all the girlies on Instagram wearing it and Ami's song and the cute pink. And I saw the blue at the, we had a Chanel dinner last week here in LA.

32:52It's just, it's my kryptonite right now. That is the bag of the summer. I agree. And you need that. So they launched with the small and the large and then extremely smart for them to intro the medium, which has been the most popular now. It's just like the perfect in between size. I do think the large is a little too big. It's huge. Yes. So small or medium is wear it at so 25 me me crochet give me like a raffia yeah what are you loving raffia for sure is going to come through that ysl that's like wooden beads yes very cool yes so that one i think that's going to be quite popular even in present time it is popular i think it has sold out so it's a saint laurent wooden beaded which style which i think is great because you know we're always going to have raffia styles in summer but this is the first time that I've I like this unique twist and that it's beads Rosie Huntington-Whiteley also posted herself wearing it which I think again sped up demand for it it's beautiful it is really it's like a dark oak wood yes I think it's a gorgeous bag go say Laurent they in my opinion excluding your mes they make the most incredible bags yeah all of my favorite bags I'm a YSL Manhattan person forever like I have two.

34:13I wear them all the time, multiple sizes. Like the Volterra bag is a great bag. I even think about, you know, if I'm investing in like a big tote, I still want that black over the shoulder one. I still want that. If I think of a raffia bag that I want, I want the, what's it called? I can. I want that bag in raffia. Like it's just, they make great bags. I agree. And their logo is so, to me, not so overwhelming. It just kind of fits in. Yes. It's very chic, I would say. The only other style that, again, it's not raffia, but it hasn't popped off yet. So let's put a little TBC on this, but it's kind of on my one to watch and I can see that it will increase actually two things.

34:59So back to Miu Miu, they did a wooden basket bag last season and they brought it back again this season. I think it comes in, there's a little mini, then they have two other sizes. So I'm going to call it medium, small, mini. And it's a wooden little basket tote. So fantastic for summer. But then separately to that, they've also introduced a new bag and it's essentially a basket style. And how shall I describe it it's like a picnic basket yes cute yes and it's not my fave though because it's like hard to carry throughout the day you know it's tiny it's kind of like I don't know if you can tell me but it's this high okay and it's great because it's got little like it's woven so it's all it's just to me it's like the perfect beach bag cute you could fit a towel in it based off what I and I because there's multiple sizes so I was like that could be cute but it hasn't popped off just yet.

35:58So it's in my TBC bucket. Okay. We'll keep an eye out. Yes. Okay. Well, now I have the shoppies. Yes. I love it. Oh, well, that's, I'm a good and bad influence. I know. Always. The last time I had you on the show, just to finish out, I, you hadn't launched Sourceby yet. And I have been having so many great conversations about tech advancements in fashion. And I would love to hear how it's going and any updates you can share with the listeners about it, because I feel like everyone's feeling really excited about just really cool new things in fashion. I love it. Absolutely. Well, Sourced By is, it has been in the works since March of last year is when I sat down and got serious about the concept.

36:38And it really stemmed from predominantly the fact that at present, I just can't find as much as I should be because I don't have the technology to really support the backend of sourcing. So behind the scenes, it is unfortunately very manual, very time intensive, very complicated. And because of that, we only can fulfill around like 30 to 40 % of our requests at present. Wow. Which is a pretty low start. Yeah. Based off, you know, the reputation that I've built of being able to find it all, but there is just so much missed revenue and opportunity there. So I knew, I've known for some time that sourcing needs tech, not only to scale the company, but just to automate the backend and really help us manage all of the requests.

37:29Because from the client side, things are strong. Requests are coming in. There's been no slowdown. But from the backend, it is unfortunately just a little bit complicated with all the different platforms that we use. So SourcedBy is the all-in-one platform that will streamline every aspect of the fashion sourcing process. So we are leveraging AI predominantly to assist with us logging the request. So nothing will change with the client. They will continue to DM us, text us, email us. But at present, I have a team member that spends around three hours a day manually logging those requests in. So this is a backend interface that you can use for yourself, but also eventually sell out to other people.

38:15Yes. Incredible. Yeah. So from day one, it will be, although we are launching slowly in terms of, you know, Gabwela will be the first to be onboarded, then another five sources will be onboarded. And the reason for that is I'm more focused on, you know, really wanting to provide like a quality product as opposed to like opening up the floodgates and like all these people using it and not getting direct feedback for or features that they may want. But from day one, it is something that I want to offer to the sourcing industry as a whole. It's something, you know, I'm so passionate about this industry and how far it's come in the six, almost seven years that I've been in it.

38:56And this just feels like the natural next progression of my career too, of, you know, stepping into tech, but stepping into tech for the industry that I feel, you know, I played a big part in building. Yeah. I mean, I can see that making a huge difference in like, I think of vintage sellers, like in 10, 15 years when you've got this like locked and loaded, I think of people like Alexis at Tab Vintage and, you know, Happy Isles and all these great places that probably have so much inbound on a daily basis and are looking for very specific things in very specific places of the world. There's a lot of incredible ways that this could really change the game and just allow people greater access to things.

39:36Definitely. And even speaking to, because we did a lot of user research as to like speaking with these other sources, both in new luxury and then vintage and the vintage, it's crazy to me that they get so much inbound, but because they don't know where to log the request, it just goes away. But I even think about like fashion brands that have like had a hard time finding their archives. Like all these tiny bits of history that Sourceby could end up helping at the end of the day, building back their brand and having that, you know, in-house identity. Yes, definitely. So I think, you know, phase one is really streamlining the process and our tagline is to find more.

40:16And then once that's in place, like there's just so many ideas and places that I want to take the product and, you know, tapping into brands and that. So I think there's just so much that can be done in this space, in the world of sourcing. it has been so fun to have you on this pod like once every year few years to hear the incredible things you've been doing it feels like a little journal of just like growth and I love hearing from you always and everything you're working on and thank you for always coming on the show I hope you have me back for a fourth fifth sixth time I will be here consider the invite open thank you so much of course thank you

40:59Thank you.