From Excuses to Results: How to Make Fitness a Lifestyle with Korin Sutton

0:00If you've ever worked with someone who creates chaos, plays the victim, and blames everyone else, then this podcast is for you. So here's your host, Adam Holbrook.

0:19Welcome to the Managing Difficult People podcast. I am your host, Adam Holbrook. In the studio today, we have the one and only Corrine Sutton, men's bodybuilding coach. And he doesn't just talk the talk. He walks the walk. This guy has got medals of championships that he's won for bodybuilding. His muscles are massive. He's got 12-pack abs. I mean, he's just insane. I'm so excited that he's in this studio with me today. The reason I started the Managing Difficult People podcast was I was noticing that a lot of people are self-sabotaging themselves. People aren't leading themselves well. People aren't leading other people well.

1:04And I said, maybe I can create a place, a safe place, where people can listen in to my stories, my guest stories, gain insights and awareness to what's holding them back in their own lives and a pathway forward. I work with schools and organizations on leadership development. And one of the reasons that I'm doing that is because I'm noticing time and time again, when you show up better for your people, when you show up better for yourself, people work harder. They want to accomplish more for you. And the bottom line increases. Today's guest is Corinne Sutton. The reason I asked Corinne on is in 2021, I hired Corinne as my men's bodybuilding coach.

1:51During COVID, I was down in the dumps, home with my kids every single day. I was gaining weight just like everyone else, except for Corinne, obviously. And I said to myself, I want to go on stage. I want to find something for myself. I had worked out my entire life, but I always failed to get the body that I wanted. and the body I dreamed of. Whether I get bigger muscles and then all of a sudden I get a bigger belly. Or if I try to do a cut, I look skinny fat and not the way I wanted to. So I hired Corinne and he gave it to me straight. And he gave me a workout program and he said, we gotta start tracking your macronutrients, your calories, your fats, your proteins, your carbohydrates.

2:33And working with Corinne and his team within one year, I was able to get on stage and compete in my first ever men's bodybuilding competition. And I'm so grateful for Corinne. Welcome to the studio. Hey, Adam, what's up, man? How's everything? It's going great. One of the things that I still work with is I still weigh and measure my food. My family does something absolutely crazy. I can dial in a week and be the weight I want to be. I can lay off and be at like 12 % body fat. And then a week later, I can get it down to like eight, seven percent if I push hard. And it's all because of you. And she didn't know that before.

3:15And I didn't realize how much diet has to do with it. Tell us about that. Yeah. When it comes to diet, it plays about 80 percent. And it's one of the reasons why here in America, there's so much misconception when it comes to diets. Everyone's looking for like the quick fix or the easiest path of least resistance. and at the end of the day, I just tell people that counting macros and measuring out your food is the best way. It's tedious. You have to relearn everything. You look weird. You don't look normal in front of your family or friends. But I always say if it's a method that seems hard and weird and doesn't seem right and you're trying to find something that's easy maybe you're going down the wrong path maybe that's the path you need to go through you know because this is something that no one's taught no one's taught how to actually learn about portion portion control when it comes to their their cells and everybody's going to be different there's no magic pill there's no magic diet you know it doesn't matter it doesn't even matter what you eat you know it's all about portion control and what works for you.

4:32And, you know, 43 years, I spent trying to figure this out thinking it's genetics, thinking I couldn't get the abs because of genetics. Well, it just kind of runs in my family. It's genetics. And I want to go into that because I couldn't figure it out. And one of the things that stuck with me and still stays with me, a lot of things that you said stuck with me and stays with me is Adam, I want you eating the same foods every single day. You said that to me in the first few months, right? When I'm working with you, the first few months, I want you dialed into this. And the reason you said we're going to stick with the same food is we want your body to see how your body adjusts to these amount of calories in this food because each food reacts to your body differently.

5:12And then we can dial in the portion size. Talk to me about that. Yeah, because there's a madness to the method, right? When it comes down to eating the same foods every day. Always say like, you might hear people say that it's not healthy, but it's not healthy if the foods that you're eating every day doesn't have priority. You know what I'm saying? So when it comes to the meal plans that I make, you're getting the rainbow. You're getting all your proteins, carbs, and fats. You're getting your fruits, veggies, your nuts and seeds, your grains and legumes, your proteins, you know, like you're getting all the nutrients that you need.

5:52And I call this the hyper nourishment protocol. All right. So I make sure you're getting the proper amount of dietary fiber, which is something that people don't talk about a lot because when you're trying to lose body fat, the dietary fiber is going to help you feel satiated. And when you're eating foods that's high in fiber, then you're going to become more of a volume eater. This is food that's going to give you more volume without a lot of calories because we don't eat enough fiber in America and we don't eat enough fruits and vegetables in America. And those, and when it comes to carbohydrates, those are the magic foods to lose weight fast because you can get the most volume, the most fiber and most nutrients, you know?

6:32So that's one of the reasons. Another reason is because I want to make it simple. We do a lot of things every day, the same thing. I shave every day. I don't complain. I take a shower every day. I take a shit every day. We do a lot of things, the same thing every day. So if we just do something with our food and simplify it, it makes it easy because we already live a very stressful and busy society. So why not simplify weight loss? You know, as long as it tastes good, you're getting all the nutrients you need and you actually learn how to count your calories, measure out your foods. Because I'm trying to just get you to just do that, the new habit versus like trying to think so much about it.

7:25You know, like what's the new meal plan? What's the new meals like every single week or every single day? You're making something different. you're creating more stress to yourself because you're making more decisions yeah you know one of the things that you do a lot of meal prepping talk to us about the meal prepping because this is so important yeah meal meal prepping is is great because you already know what you're going to eat for the day again i'm eliminating things out of out of people's lives that doesn't require more stress decisions you know so if you already know what you're going to eat how you're going to cheat.

8:02You're not going to cheat on your diet if you already know what you're supposed to eat that day. People cheat because they don't know what they eat and they eat at desperation or at last minute decisions. It's like when you go into the grocery store and you see the candy bars at the checkout line, they do that on purpose. That's a sales technique. Right. Or you have that great workout and you reward yourself with a handful of nuts that you're just defeating the whole purpose of your workout yeah yeah corinne can't anybody become a men's physique men's bodybuilder women's physique women's bodybuilder or there's some genetics involved genetics play is a little bit but anyone can do it you know anyone can do it it's just about how much time you're willing to put in you know that at the end of the day that's where it really matters genetics do play but we're talking about like when genetics play a role we're talking about like world champion status you know but to do it just to jump on stage and do it for recreation win the trophy like anyone could do that you know what i'm saying it just requires time like how much time do you have to actually put into a sport because it does require a lot of time you know and that's why yeah there's times i have seasons with it like i'm on season and then off season i take a break Because I want to focus on other things, like mostly with work.

9:25It's like if I'm taking a long season off, it's probably like work related. I'm like, oh, I'm trying to pursue different things. I want to increase revenue in the business. I'm trying to do and I just don't want to be stressed with more dieting and, you know, posing and just doing the whole show, you know. So I usually take a break. Yeah, but you don't like completely lose your touch with yourself. You might go from like 6 % body fat, which is competition weight, up to what, 12 % body fat. It's not like you're just going to eat a ton of junk food, right? You're within that range. You may give yourself a little bit more calories.

10:01Because when I noticed when I was at competition, I was struggling to walk up and down the stairs. I'll be honest with you. Like, it was hard work. Like, I'm like, this guy has me not eating anything, not drinking water. I'm eating the candy. I'm eating like rice and I'm hungry and I'm exhausted walking up and down the stairs. And then we take a diuretic before the competition to like suck out even more water. You think you're going to pass out. You're making muscles on stage pretending you're smiling and happy. But in reality, you can't wait till the competition's over so you can lay into the acai bowl, man.

10:37And I'm like, well, you look good. And I remember after the competition, I cried because I knew I couldn't keep that body. I knew I couldn't maintain that really low body fat level. But I'm going to do another one. I mean, my buddy are going to do it together. My buddy, Mike Fry and I are going to do it when we're 50. So I'm 48 right now. Yeah, I want to do it again. But this time is going to be so much easier because when you're First of all, I eat less calories than my entire family, my kids, my wife. I eat less calories than them all. We go out to dinner. Like a lot of times I'll eat my protein before I go out to dinner.

11:18I'll just get a salad with like vinegar on the side. These are all tips that you give me, by the way. If I'm hungry, if I'm hungry in between, I'll have black coffee. Right. Like that was one of your one of your. And that's kind of like curb my appetite. Instead of grabbing the handful of nuts. Now I just drink a cup of coffee. Not that we want to drink a ton of coffee, right? But I'm having like three 10 ounce cups of coffee a day. And it just kind of curbs my appetite. And I brush my teeth right after I'm done eating because it gets rid of that feeling like I want to eat more. And as soon as I'm done eating, I want to get away from the kitchen as fast as possible so I know I'm done.

11:53Because it just takes a while sometimes for our body to say, hey, look, we're full. And one of the things that you taught me, which was huge, was it's okay to go to bed hungry. Yeah. My boy, talk to me about that. Yeah, I mean, when it comes to like maintaining or weight, especially with weight loss, when you're going to bed hungry, I mean, obviously you don't want to be starving, right? If you're starving where you're just irritable, like that's different. But like when it comes to weight loss in general, you're going to be hungry from time to time, you know, but it doesn't mean that you have to eat.

12:29because when you're hungry, usually those are signals that your body is telling you that it wants like serotonin, you know, because you've been, you probably were just up more, you know? And when, when that's happening, I always say like, especially if like right now I'm cutting, right? So I get hungry at night myself, you know, I get little, little cravings and stuff. And what I do is I just drink some like Zevia soda, which is like calorie free soda or eat seaweed chips because like you have to eat so much, you know, just to get like, just to get a few calories in. So I'll buy little packets, but it's like one packet is like one gram of carb and you get like 10 little chips, you know, but when I eat those things or drink it, it curves the appetite.

13:17And I know that's when my body's like burning the fat, you know, because it, and you don't want to eat when you're hungry. I mean, you don't want to eat when you're going to bed anyways, because it's just going to ruin your sleep. You're just going to ramp up your metabolism. And then when you try to go into bed, your sleep is going to get wrecked. Because when your body is digesting food, it requires a lot of energy. It takes about 60%, 70 % of your energy just to digest. And now you're sleeping. So you're laying down where you're supposed to be standing up so the digestion can work easily. Now you're laying on the side or on your back where it's making the body work even harder just to push the food down wow you know you're just giving people so it's not like you're just giving people a random workout program and dietary program it's basically you ask them what their needs are you look at their body i remember i had to take some some pictures of myself before before pictures and i was embarrassed about taking those before pictures.

14:22But now when you show like a review of before and after, it's cool, man. It's pretty cool that you're able to see that progress week in and week out. You had me get a body fat scale, which measures my body fat composition and my weight, right? And we recognize that we wanted to keep our proteins high because the proteins, we wanted to have enough protein in our body so we didn't lose any muscle. But we also wanted to either keep our carbs low or our fats low, depending on what cycle. And we do different cycles throughout this whole competition phase. But this isn't just for people that want to get on stage.

14:56This is for anyone that wants to get back in shape. And it was just an amazing journey because I had learned so much from you. And I'm so grateful for that time. To me, it was like the best thing to learn hands down that I can get this body that I dreamed of when I was 18 and 22, but now I'm not getting it until I'm 43 years old. And it's okay to go to bed hungry. It was one of the mind-blowingest things you ever said to me. It's okay to be cool. I'm like, what? And the only way to lose weight, Adam, is if you're in a caloric deficit. And I'm like, wait a second. I thought I just needed to exercise more.

15:33I ran a marathon, Corinne. And you look at my picture after the marathon, I got a big belly. I got a big belly. Did I do this marathon? I thought I was going to have a six pack abs by the time I ran this thing. And it just wasn't happening because of the diet. Yeah. Yeah. And also just to add on to that, like when it comes to like going to bed hungry, it's also good to try to get your last meal in as early as possible. Because that's when you put your body into an intermittent fast and you have no food within like 12, 15 hours, your body goes into a natural detox. so it goes into it's something called apothegy you know so it starts killing off any type of like things that you don't need in your body and starts detoxifying and it makes your metabolism even stronger too there's a lot of benefits in it but people want to buy like detox teas and juicing and all the stuff to detox i'm like your body no your body's very smart sophisticated You know, you just need to do the right things.

16:36You don't have to do these little diets and teas and stuff like that. Because I always tell people like, what's the point of detoxing? If you already eat a diet that's already clean, and then you time out your meals appropriately and do an intermittent fast every single day, you know? There's two different ways that you can do the intermittent fasting, right? There isn't there the 24 hour cycle and the eight hour cycle. Can you explain that to our listeners? so when it comes to intermittent fasting like there's different ways i just do like the 12 to 15 hours that's that's what i do do i do it religiously every single day no like there's times like last friday i went to a party you know so i ate that at night but then i was up a little bit later at night as well you know i'm saying so like there there is pros and cons but majority of time if i'm not going out meeting up with friends or anybody i won't eat you know like so i'll go ahead and do the fast and when i end up doing that that again that helps me go into my body to slow down the metabolism it's just the digestion down because everything's completely out i usually finish my meals i usually keep the window no later than 5 p.m but sometimes even earlier like even today at my i just had my last meal at one you know and that's only because i I trained very hard.

17:57You know, so it's like, I was just hungry. I'm just like, I'm just going to go ahead and eat right now. Like, and then just fast all the way until tomorrow morning, you know, it's fine. But that's one of the benefits. Another way, and this is what one of my friends does. His name's Corey Armstrong. He does like three-day fast, 24-hour day fast. Oh, wow. Yeah, he does it way, way more extreme. And there's benefits to that because the longer your body's in apophagy, you know, you're going to get better results. And it's also good for people that has addictions. Also, it's good if you do it for spiritual reasons, you want to do something like that.

18:33Because I was even thinking about like talking to him myself and think about like, hey, like I'm thinking about doing like a 24 or three day fast just to start off maybe a week at the end for spiritual reasons, you know, but I want to do it right if I want to do it for spiritual reasons. And so I want to go to him. But obviously, I know I can't be working out the way I do, you know, if I'm doing some week. So, Corinne, number one, we never really dialed into doing a fast during our working together. So I don't want you to think, listeners, that I'm going to work with Corinne and he's going to make me do a 12-hour fast.

19:08But he is going to dial into what you're eating every single day. And you could space that out however you want. That's one of the things he said to me. He's like, you get this amount of food. This is your daily food. You prep it for the week. So you're just grabbing and going, grabbing and going. And once that food is done, that's it. It's over. It's done. And he didn't care if I was eating it at eight o 'clock at night or seven o 'clock in the morning. I remember one time you telling me you're doing a big juice in the morning and that was your only meal for the day. Right. So depending on how you want to want to do it.

19:39But it's about dialing into it. At the end of the day, at the end of the day, like, yeah, without all the technicalities, if you just want to lose weight, like, yeah, as long as you eat all your calories. it doesn't really matter at the end of the day. There's benefits when you time and have your last meal. Like, like I said, with the intermittent fasting, like there's some benefits with that, but it's not like, it's not something that's set like written in stone. Like if you don't fast, you won't get results. You know, it's like a plus it's a plus. That's all. So what do you say to the business owner?

20:11I work with a lot of business owners, 300 pounds, like big guys they're just heavy and they say to me once my business is successful then i can do this and i've actually started working out with one of my clients in the office and he would lose 20 pounds and then he back up and down up and down and when things are stressful at work he starts eating more right and it's just it's a hard cycle to move away but here's the thing is i just think that you got to exercise now get build that routine right now what success is going to be different. And as you continue to grow, you're going to shoot your eyes on even going further in life.

20:47And if you're just going to constantly be putting off exercise, you may never do it. I don't know. What do you think? My personal opinion is that, yeah, the longer you wait and you put it to the side, you're telling yourself that there's other things more important than yourself, you know? And when you start creating that routine, especially the more successful you get you start becoming you start idolizing what's more important which is money yeah you start success and money is your idol that's what you see and i'm not saying that like you worship it you know i mean i'll see most successful men are taking using it to take care of their money take care of their family and stuff like that but they neglect themselves at the end and then when there's health related issues that can't get reversed then it's almost like yes as a father as a husband you set your family up but now you can't even enjoy the things that you built for them together as a family yeah so so you sacrifice you know yeah how if that's the way you want to go cool you know you know like everyone has I don't, I don't think, I think everybody has it in the back of their mind.

22:08Everybody has it in the back of their mind. They want to exercise, like they want to do it. And they're waiting for motivation to strike them. But motivation doesn't strike you. Once you're taking action, then you actually get motivated. People are waiting. If I start this business, then I'll be, you know, like once I get motivated, I'll start this business. Once I start feeling motivated and the action comes first, not the other way around. I don't know. I think that it's just really hard for people to get into the routine of saying, I want to take care of myself. Oh, I want to wait till the weather gets better.

22:40I want to wait in every excuse in the book. And before you know it, you know, you can't help some people. And it's a matter of they got to be willing to help themselves and know that they can live a longer life. They can live a healthier life. And Mr. Sutton here, Curran Sutton, he's a vegan. What, 19 year vegan? Am I right saying that? 14. 14 years vegan. And this guy's jacked up. So people like think, oh, I need that giant steak. I need to get my protein in. I remember Corinne, I was like pooping out green at one point because I was eating so much animal product. And somebody said to me, that's because you got too much protein.

23:21Our bodies don't like, yeah, we need to monitor it. Right. But also one of the things, are we eating lean protein or are we eating fatty protein, right? Are you eating the chicken wings that are tons of fat or are you eating a chicken breast or tofu, right? What is it that you're eating that's leaner? Because that matters too. And I don't even go out when I go out to dinner, like no oil, man. These, these restaurants, they cook with so much oil and like one tablespoon of oils, like, I don't know, nine, 10 grams of fat. And that one tablespoon. I remember at the end of my competition, you're like water, just water, man.

23:57it's going to stick to the pen who cares yeah man yeah yeah but that's how it is i mean and that's why people decided to join my program like even before i i let them i always ask them what's your why you know i think the why is more important because it doesn't matter like i've been in fitness for so long i've been in fitness for like 15 years you know and to me i really after talking to thousands of people like I have thousands of phone calls thousands the only difference between successful and unsuccessful is their why it's not really the coaching you know I want to be honest I could sit here and be very honest it's not so much the coaching like the coaching is part of it it's like if I give you the meal plan workout plan you show up to your calls you have issues you have problems you come and you ask me about it I solve them for you you know it's normal that's like perfect you know but when someone doesn't really want it like even if they joined and they don't want it they just start pulling back automatically it doesn't matter how many times i call them if i chased them or i write emails it doesn't matter and it's one reason why i kind of stopped chasing people you know it's hard though it's hard and i know that because after you do it easy you started me off easy.

25:21I think you started me off at like 2 ,200 calories because you just wanted to ease me into it. Because if you went at like 1 ,500 calories, I would have probably been one of those people that said, see you later. Yeah. Yeah. But like, but that's the most important thing because it's like, you'll just notice how, you know, when you're on sales calls, everything, checking calls, you notice a pattern, a big pattern. And it's really their why. And when someone has a strong why where, and that's why I talked about like, you know, if they don't want to put their health first versus their family and they sacrifice, because I've seen those conversations where I'm like, why do you want to lose weight?

26:02Most people who want to lose weight, they want to do it for themselves, but also do it for their family. You know, they're like, I don't want to, they literally say, I don't want to die. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. I have a grandson. I have a son. I want to be able to play with my kids. You know, those are the people that gets the most success when they're just like, I just want to get a six pack. Why? Why you want to get a six pack? Oh, I just never got it. Cause I was like, they're the ones that fall because they're still living like they're in high school. Yeah. They don't have a real while. Man.

26:35That's like, that's a hard area for me. Right. Because I exercise because I feel better when I do. I feel better at this body weight that you've created, this system that you've created for me. I feel great. I'm in complete control of my body now. But I got to tell you, I love looking good too. And man, it's tricky because a lot of these personal growth gurus, they're like asking that same question. Why are you doing it? Are you exercising because you want to feel good about yourself or are you doing it for how you look? And for me, it's both. And I know that there's probably some psychological problem with me, how I was up, brought up that I needed that.

27:13But at the same time is as a coach, as an executive coach, I want to be able to not just talk the talk and say to people like, Hey, I think you should get some exercise routine. I want to actually look the part as well. Yeah. Your physical appearance plays a role too. Like it's not all vanity. You know what I'm saying? It's both, you know, you want to feel good and look good it's a fact like because it's like dude like it's almost like when we see have you ever heard like the the statistics that successful people usually look good like they always get the best roles or the best part like it plays a role i'm not saying that happens all across i'm not trying to come out conceited by saying it but it's true like it's just the world we live in but the reality too is that you have more self-confidence you know i know when i walk into a room, I have a presence.

28:04When I'm networking or something, people gravitate to me automatically. I don't even have to try. You know? I don't have to try. I could confidently come into a room, walk into something like, hey, my name's Corinne, what's yours? And they're going to respond back positively. Because I have self-confidence. My posture, with the clothing out, if you look good, you wear better clothing. You had me get new clothes. I was like, Corinne, I don't... Like I look good without a shirt on, but I don't look good in my old clothes. You're like, get new ones.

28:42My question is, I read the book by Deion Sanders and one of his chapters is called, you got to look good to feel good to get paid good. Now, I think there's some truth to that, but then there's a guy named John Maxwell. I'm a John Maxwell certified leadership trainer. And he is saying, you got to exercise for the right reasons. Are you doing it to look good? and to feed your ego or are you looking so there is there's a balance there and i really haven't there's a line like i said like i'm not doing it just purely for vanity you know even though i do bodybuilding it's not vanity though because like when i make videos when i take photos it's not with me with my shirt off all the time or me and my tighty whities you know with the bodybuilding trunks, right?

29:27I'm not wearing it every single thing. So when I do bodybuilding for a show, and yet they're judging me for looks, but they're judging for muscularity, conditioning, symmetry, and posing, you know? And that's why when I finish bodybuilding, I eat my food. I have my pieces, donuts, all this stuff, like, and I have a particular standard because of bodybuilding. Like, I'm like, all right, you know, I know I could get up to like 18, 20 % and still be healthy, but I don't want to be looking like that. That's just my standard. You know, I live in Miami, Florida, you know, it's too hot. Everyone looks good anyway.

30:04So it's like, you know, I want to fit that criteria. So that's it. So it's like, I like having a six pack, but I know if it's vanity, I already know I can't stay at 5%, 3 % body fat year round. That's insane. Because if it was purely vanity, I wreck my hormones naturally by doing that. I I wrecked my sleep by doing that. I remember my hair was falling out at the end, Corinne. I was able to pull, like my body scat fail wasn't working anymore because I was so low. I remember going up to my hair and I'm like, what the heck? My body was failing. When you're too low, you think like these movie stars, right?

30:39These movie stars that are getting on in these famous movies, they're doing a cut for that movie. And as soon as that movie is over, they don't look like that anymore. Right. So what is that healthy weight for you? I know you got to go soon, but I just want to ask one more question for you. When a client comes to you, I want you to tell me, walk me through that process. You give a 16-week program. I used to do a 16-week program. I'm not sure if that's the same program that you offer, but what do they get for that and what does it look like? Yeah, I have a 16-week and a one-year. So those are my two offers.

31:12The one that I push the most is the year. And that's because with the year program, 16 is more like, I just want to transform, right? I don't like it that much just because it's not, you're just transforming your body. The year is lifestyle change. It's more sustainable. You know what I mean? And when someone walks into the year, I mean, just like any other coach out there, you know, and I'm not going to sugarcoat it, meal plan, workout plan, and accountability. You're going to get that no matter who you go to. Any online coach is going to give you that service. Anyone. The only difference is going to be like the foods and recipes, the coach's attitude, sex, if it's male, female, and the application that they're using, right?

32:03Like I use TrainerEye and it's customized. Some people might use CoachRx, like some people might customize it, but it doesn't matter all this is irrelevant right the thing that makes the biggest difference between every single coach is are they teaching you just to lose weight and get to your goal are they more goal orientated or are they lifestyle orientated lifestyle oriented role because just like with you like you're like i still count my macros i still do this i still like go to sleep a little bit hungry. I don't eat that because those are lifestyle changes. I didn't tell, I even told you when you came into the program, like, and even when you left, you don't have to keep counting, you know, if you don't want to, like, you could just like, you know, because when you're counting and measuring and doing all that stuff repetitively, and obviously we change out the meal plan as you go and get a diversity of different types of foods, the seeds that I'm trying to plant into people is that this is how you make macro-friendly foods.

33:03This is when you go out to eat, this is how you order correctly. Like make sure you have the proper amount of protein, carbs, and fat for your daily needs, right? Yeah. You can eat whatever you want. You just can't have everything all at once. And if you do decide to do something, have it. But remember, if I ate like a big pizza that morning, maybe for lunch and dinner, I should have like proteins and salads or something because I had a lot of carbs. Yeah. It's really about learning. It's really about learning and you might not be able to do it on your own because I had 43 years of trying to read all these books and not being able to figure it out.

33:39I needed that one-on-one coaching to take me to that level. And that's what Corinne is. Now, Corinne, I'm going to give you the last word here. I want people to know exactly where they can reach you. If they want to get to know you, get what I think it's a five or 10 minute intro call. And I also want to know is when we take care of ourselves, we show up better for people. So people don't have that same power over us. They're not as difficult as they once were. Corinne, last word. Tell us where we can reach you. The best way to find me is on social media, especially on Instagram. Just type in my name, Corinne Sutton, K-O-R-I-N-S-U-T-T-O-N.

34:13Email Corinne Sutton at BodyHDFitness.com or you could go to my website at BodyHDFitness.com. Great. Corinne Sutton is spelled with a K-O-R-I-N. Sutton is S-U-T-T-O-N. Thank you so much for being here today, Corinne. Till next time on the Managing Difficult People podcast, signing off. All right. Thanks for having me.

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