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Podcast Episode Summary: Morning Brew Daily - Episode 128
Episode Title
Mortgage Rates Skyrocket to 20-Year High & Is Tourism Helping or Hurting Maui?
Hosts
Neal Freyman & Toby Howell
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Episode Overview In this episode of Morning Brew Daily, Neal and Toby discuss the latest financial news, focusing on the significant rise in mortgage rates, the impact of tourism on Maui following devastating wildfires, investment strategies for retirement, and the effects of major corporate decisions on stock markets.
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Key Topics
- Mortgage Rates & Economic Climate
- Current Situation:
- Mortgage rates have reached 7.09%, the highest in over 20 years.
- This increase is attributed to rising U.S. Treasury yields, nearing a 16-year high.
- The affordability crisis is worsening, with many existing homeowners hesitant to sell due to lower locked-in mortgage rates.
- Market Dynamics:
- New buyers are reluctant to enter the market due to high rates.
- The median home price in June was over $410,000, contributing to a frozen housing market.
- Investor Sentiment:
- Despite the housing market issues, overall economic resilience is suggested by strong corporate earnings, such as Walmart beating sales expectations.
- Tourism Debate in Maui
- Context:
- Maui is recovering from wildfires that resulted in 111 fatalities and significant economic losses.
- A debate has emerged regarding the ethics of tourism in the wake of disaster recovery.
- Arguments:
- Local Perspective: Many locals argue that tourism diverts resources needed for recovery.
- Economic Dependency: Officials suggest that tourism is essential for the economy, as it generates four out of five dollars in Maui.
- Ethics of Travel:
- The episode sparked discussions on whether it's appropriate to travel to Maui now as a tourist, highlighting the complexities of supporting the local economy versus showing respect for the community's grief.
- 401k Investment Insights
- Positive Trends:
- According to Fidelity, the average 401k balance has increased by 39% over the past decade, with a significant rise in the number of million-dollar accounts.
- Key characteristics of 401k millionaires include an average age of 59 and a saving rate of 17.2%.
- Impact of Student Loan Pause:
- Many student loan borrowers have increased their 401k contributions during the payment freeze.
- Financial News Highlights
- Stock of the Week:
- Saks Perente Golf: Experienced a 624% surge on its IPO debut, though it saw significant volatility afterward.
- Dog of the Week:
- CVS: Stock dropped following a partnership loss with Blue Shield of California, indicating potential threats to the pharmacy benefit manager industry.
- Celebrity Spotlight
- James Harden’s Livestream Success:
- Harden sold 10,000 bottles of wine in under 10 seconds during a Chinese livestream, highlighting the power of this sales strategy in China.
- High School Investment Trends
- Facility Upgrades:
- Discussion of high schools investing heavily in dining and athletic facilities, with examples of elite institutions like Deerfield Academy financing significant renovations and new facilities.
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Conclusion The episode provides a comprehensive look at the intersection of personal finance, economic indicators, and social issues, encouraging listeners to consider their impact on investment decisions and community relations. Neal and Toby's witty commentary makes complex topics accessible to a broad audience.
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Production Credits
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- Associate Producers: Samantha Veles, Raven Liu
- Technical Director: Isabel Nguyen
- Audio: Billy Menino
- Chief Content Officer: Devin Emery
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0:38Good morning Brew Daily Show. I'm Neil Freiman. And I'm Toby Howell. On today's pod, tensions are rising in Maui over whether tourists should be encouraged to come to areas of the island not hit by wildfires. And we'll tell you how NBA player James Harden sold 10 ,000 bottles of wine in 10 seconds. Then we'll dig into some 401k data from Fidelity that shows the U's are actually alright when it comes to savings. Plus, one small golf company quietly had the best IPO of the year this week. So you know Neil and I have to dig into that. It's Friday, August 18th. Let's ride.
1:16All right, Toby, did you see what we wrote about in our intro in the newsletter this morning? We get up too early. The newsletter hasn't hit my inbox yet. I know, it's coming out right now. Anyway, kind of mind-blowing fact from Neil deGrasse Tyson that he posted in a TikTok video. Basically, he said the number of ways you can shuffle a deck of 52 cards is so unfathomably large, 52 factorial, that there likely has never been two shuffled card decks with the same exact sequence in the history of playing cards. Oh my gosh. I'm trying to wrap my mind around that right now. I have played a lot of poker in my life too, and I find it hard to believe that I've never had the same deck because I swear I have been screwed multiple times.
1:56Yeah, all the comments were like, then why does the dealer hit 21 when I hit 21? Yeah, exactly, exactly. Wait, I kind of have a fact, though, that I didn't know that I was getting this fact, but here's one for you. There's more estimated combinations of the game of chess than there are atoms in the universe. Okay. And that is including illegal moves, though. So that number is between 10 to the 111th power to 10 to the 123rd power of positions, which that is truly mind-blowing. So it makes sense that a robot could beat all of us because it can do that computing power and our brains are so small compared to that.
2:30Yeah. I don't know. When you're talking – it just makes me think about when you're talking about probabilities with such big numbers, they – it gets so big. Factorials. Oh, I know. You know, like 53 factorial compared to 52 factorial is even exponentially larger. Yeah. All right. But let's bring it back to earth here. Fast week, slow week on Friday, Toby. Oh, my gosh. Today was a slow week. It's just like the dog days of summer for me. It did drag on a little bit. Yeah. What about you? Last week. I can't wait for us to, we have a little golf outing in the afternoon, and I was just envisioning the first tee shot all week.
3:05We always have a golf outing. All right, Neil, let's jump into our top story of the day. Remember that housing compound that you and I were going to move into in Montana? Well, I'm backing out because mortgage rates are higher than Big Sky right now. According to government data released yesterday, the average mortgage rate rose to 7.09%, which is the highest level in more than 20 years. And those rates are translating into an affordable housing crunch. New buyers are wary of those record high rates. Existing homeowners are loathe to sell and give up the super low rates they locked in, while a lack of new homes being built has constricted supply and jacked up prices.
3:46Mortgage rates also move in tandem with the 10-year treasury yield, which are also at their highest level since 2007, signaling that investors are looking for returns outside the safety of government bonds. So Neil, it's a very ugly time to be a homebuyer, yet the economy as a whole appears to be, at least to investors, pretty strong and resilient. So what the heck is going on here? Well, we've been talking about this affordability housing crisis for a long time, and it just keeps getting worse and not better because mortgage rates continue to climb and no one wants to move right now because 75 % of mortgage holders have a rate of less than 4%.
4:23And so you've got to be out of your mind if you want to leave your house. And so that leaves no inventory for people who want to buy. So basically what's happening in the housing market is it's frozen. It's August, but it's completely frozen. I like that. The median existing home price was over $410 ,000 in June, which is the second highest ever. Actually, previously, it was a little bit higher, but still absolutely ridiculous. And it's so ridiculous, too. If we go back just a few years because rates were at those record lows during the height of the pandemic, rates fell to right around 3%. And then that led to a massive housing boom, skyrocketing prices in places like Phoenix and places like Austin, especially as remote workers look for more space.
5:06And then we needed to do that record scratch freeze frame. Look at where we are now. And it's just crazy that we're touching the highest rates we've seen in two decades. And it really adds up. You can see why people don't want to switch a 4 % mortgage for a 7 % mortgage because so here crunching some numbers here. If you buy a$500, a$500 ,000 house with a 20 % down payment. So with a 4 % mortgage rate, with that down payment, you can expect to pay about$290 ,000 over 30 years in interest payments. But with a 7 % mortgage rate, you're paying$560 ,000 in interest. So if you're just looking at that numbers, you're like, well, all right, maybe my home isn't the most perfect thing in the world, but it's not worth that much money.
5:47They add up quick. It's not quite 52 factorial, but those payments do add up. And you mentioned the yields, which I know a bunch of our listeners ears just glazed over when I mentioned bond yields. But that's really what's driving this whole thing. And when you want to look for clues at what's going on in the economy, you kind of have to avert your gaze away from stocks, which are very volatile and may just represent the performance of a few companies. And look at bond yields, which are really what investors bet on to, you know, invest in the future of the economy. And bond yields are surging.
6:21The 10-year yield hit a highest level since 2007. So this is investors betting that there is a strong economy, that the Fed is going to have to keep interest rates higher for longer, and that this whole maybe soft landing might come into play. But the Fed is not going to reduce interest rates anytime soon. So that mortgage rate is going to stay very high for a long time, which is going to put further chill on the housing market. Yeah, people are kind of coming to terms with that fact. And then if we just want to zoom out for another kind of proxy for the economy, Walmart reported earnings this week and absolutely crushed it.
6:55They beat sales expectations. Same source sales for Walmart grew by 6.4 % in contrast to Target sales, which we spoke about yesterday, which fell by 4.9%. And the general consensus is Walmart is the big box retailer for people who are looking for more affordable prices. They sell a lot of staple goods, like their grocery business is massive. And so if Walmart is doing well, it usually means that people like the economy as a whole is doing pretty well, just because or doing well in terms of if we're in a environment with high inflation, Walmart tends to do well because they still can offer the best prices.
7:33So that's a good proxy for kind of how the right on a whole. So what we're seeing is a very strong economy, but the Fed's interest rate hikes and their continued interest rate hikes, because they might still do it. Who knows is hitting the housing market really hard. All right, let's head back to Maui, where the death toll from the wildfires now stands at at least 111 people, and the financial costs are expected to top$5 billion. As recovery efforts continue, tensions are rising over whether tourists should be encouraged back on the island. On one hand, you have many locals who say that now is not the time for out-of-towners to come on vacation, taking up resources that should be devoted to helping everyone who lost their homes and businesses and livelihoods from the fire.
8:16The actor Jason Momoa encapsulated this vibe last weekend when he said, do not convince yourself that your presence is needed on an island that is suffering this deeply. But on the other hand, you have officials like the Maui mayor saying it's totally fine to come. Just don't go to the devastated west side of the island. The rest of Maui is still open, he said. We've not shut down. And the Hawaii Tourism Authority is still encouraging visitors to keep their plans. but also avoid going to the west side. And that's because tourism is the only economic game in town, accounting for four of every five dollars made in Maui.
8:50So what's clear is that after the fire, the simmering tensions native Hawaiians have with tourism has erupted into a full boil. Locals have increasingly chafed at tourists coming in and putting extra strain on already fragile natural ecosystems. And the sight of visitors enjoying themselves on the beach while they're grieving only exacerbates the feeling that this dynamic has to change. And this actually sparked a really interesting debate among the brew writers this week, whether it'd be ethical to travel to Maui right now. Yeah. I mean, I do think that initial anti-tourism push that we saw from Jason Momoa, saw from some prominent people, was because resources were just so valuable in those first few days after the fire.
9:29Every hotel room counted, every bit of running water, every bit of electricity needed to go to someone who had been displaced by the fires. But then if you zoom out just a little bit, Maui can't tell tourists to stay away forever because it's truly the lifeblood of their economy. You mentioned that four out of five dollars generated on Maui come from tourists. So I do think that as we get further and further from the actual disaster, of course, tourists are going to have to come back because it's just the reality of their economy. Yeah, I think there's just been a longstanding antagonism to tourists because they have been seen as prioritized.
10:04Like basically resources are scarce on Maui. It is a island in the middle of the Pacific and it has very fragile ecosystems that are already getting battered by climate change. And then you have hordes of tourists coming in. At some points, you have one out of every three people on this island is a tourist. So so they're already putting pressure. And then there's this sense that they are prioritized over locals. Last year, there were, you know, water cuts because of a drought. And the, you know, golf resorts and the other tourist hotspots were prioritized while locals were told to reduce their water use.
10:35So you have this already strained relationship that kind of blew up over the course of the wildfires. So when you hear stuff like that, it becomes very easy to kind of get mad at tourists. I mean, it's not technically their fault. It was someone's decision to prioritize water usage. And then you've also been seeing this kind of name and shame discourse that's been happening in the wake of the fires where there's an Instagram video that went relatively viral of a native Hawaiian posting a video of tourists snorkeling off the coast of Maui. and everyone's like just not time for it but then the tourist agency had already posted that we are doing this event to donate all the proceeds to maui so again that is a perfect encapsulation of the discourse where someone is trying to use tourism for good and yet it's still a bad look so it it's just complicated i think like landing in maui right now i just would not right it just doesn't quite feel there's so many other places but then you're like well i should support the economy because these people leave left uh lost everything in this i think just donate right yeah Yeah, there's got to be other ways, but I just cannot imagine boarding a flight to Hawaii right now.
11:38Yeah, for sure. All right, now let's move on to our next story where we have some good news for those of you who have remained committed to your 401k savings accounts over the years. The average 401k balance is up 39 % in the past decade, according to Fidelity, while the number of people with at least$1 million in their 401k accounts has grown about 25 % so far this year alone. There were two main characteristics that Fidelity identified about those in the two-comma club. One, the average age of a 401k millionaire is 59. And two, they save an average of 17.2 % of their pay. So, Neil, if you want to be a millionaire, get old and save a lot in the process.
12:24Slow and steady, baby. Slow and steady. Anything else stand out to you from this 401k data dump we got? I thought that the student loan data was interesting. So a lot of borrowers that didn't have to pay their student loan back over the course of this freeze over the past three years piled into 401k savings, which is good to hear, right? Very good, yeah. So I think close to 75 % of student loan borrowers put at least 5 % of their pre-tax salaries during this period into 401ks during this period when payments were paused. And before that, it was just 63%. So you definitely saw a surge there. So that stood out.
12:56But the biggest thing here is you got to just stock away a lot of money for a long time. And only then will you feel like somewhat comfortable retiring because costs of everything has gone so high. You mentioned prices of housing. So imagine, you know, trying to pay off a mortgage when you're not really having a steady income besides your retirement fund and Social Security. Fidelity did say, like, we do realize that a million is not what it used to be. It's always been the symbolic number for retirees, but obviously with inflation, it doesn't go as far. This actually isn't peak millionaire, though, peak 401k millionaire.
13:30That came back in the final three months of 2021, which, again, it was post kind of stimulus checks, post student loans being paused. The stock market kind of ripped post 2020. So that was peak millionaire. But, I mean, obviously it's done really well. The S &P is up 16.7 % this year, which contributes to the 401k balances going up as well. And then also young people are doing pretty well. The Gen Z workers' balances jumped 66 % over the past year. I'm not going to say the number yet because to what the balances are at. It's kind of funny. While boomers only rose 6.3%, but Gen Z's average balance is$8 ,100.
14:15All right. So obviously it's going to jump higher. Obviously, it's going to jump higher. Boomers only rose to 220 ,000. So obviously, it's in context. But millennials have, if you're checking your 401k amounts, which I don't actually recommend doing, you might see a pretty big green arrow this year. Maybe it's because Gen Z is, you know, you can select which fund you go in. Maybe they go in the meme stock fund. Oh, my gosh. Instead of like the long-term, small cap, you know, ETF, Vanguard. Gen Z, what are we going to do with you? All right. Before we jump into our next story, we're going to take a quick break.
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15:43dot com today to save on your first order 1-800 contacts all right neil we are back with our friday segment stock of the week dog of the week where we look at one stock that you totally go to for relationship advice and one stock that thinks leonaro dicaprio is relationship goals i won the pre-show slap boxing match so i'll go first but as always do remember that we are just humble podcasters. So please don't take any of this as financial or relationship advice. And our stock of the week is Saks Perente Golf. What if I told you, Neil, that this little known maker of putters had the best IPO of the year this week?
16:25After listing on Tuesday, shares of the golf equipment company skyrocketed 624 % on its first day of trading. It closed just shy of$29 a share after listing at$4. But much like my actual golf game, it couldn't sustain its high level of performance and plummeted 85 % the next day to settle at$4.47 a share, which was still above its listing price. Pretty solid, right? Well, again, like my golf games, things continued to spiral yesterday with the stock falling another 29 % to close below its IPO price. So maybe this shouldn't be stock of the week after all, but we're making an exception because it's not every day that a golf company that makes$400 putters has the best IPO of the year.
17:08Yeah. I mean, I think it's the first golf IPO since the Titleist parent went public in 2016. I don't know, man. This company just did$190 ,000 in sales in 2022, which is maybe five of it. So it sold five putters, basically. Yeah. I don't know whether this market is ripe for disruption. I mean, we both pay attention to golf a lot, and there's a lot of legacy makers out there. There's the Scotty Cameron putter that is lauded. It's used by a lot of pros. And you have just Titleist and Callaway and all these Mizuno and all these other big sporting goods, golf equipment makers that, you know, I think a lot of golfers have a lot of affiliation with.
17:48And you had if you had never heard of this company before, then that surprises me. And I'm just not sure if it can break it. I'd never heard of it. I've never seen one either, but I was doing some digging into it. it's founded by two retirees with who are just sitting around they both started talking they both realized they knew a lot about the golf club making process so they decided to found this company and their whole thing is that their putters have a really high moi which is a moment of all so they have a ton of weight on the front and the back of the putter so they do have some technological innovation and they just make they say really high quality putters and i i mean golf people are insane if any any new putter comes out of course people are gonna look to it see if it improves their game at any right in any way and then also if you just want to look at it from a stock perspective i mean calloway's valued at 3.1 billion dollars so of that's because they have top golf they have top golf they have they make equipment just beyond actual uh putters but if you want it to bull case, I guess you could say, well, if it turns into Titleist or it turns into Callaway, then there is like this huge runway.
18:56But I don't know. What's the probability you get this putter in the next five years? The probability is high. It's high as the MOI, I would say. All right. I could talk about that forever, but we have to move on. My dog of the week is CVS, whose stock plunged 8 % yesterday after getting a shark bite from none else than Mark Cuban. Here's what happened. Blue Shield of California, a major health insurer, said it's dropping its partnership with CVS's pharmacy benefit manager Caremark and instead will link up with five other companies to supply drugs, including Mark Cuban's Cost Plus drug company and Amazon Pharmacy.
19:29It's a big move that threatens the traditional system and Americans pay for drugs, which is through these pharmacy benefit managers like CVS's that negotiate drug prices with pharmaceutical makers in this opaque and complex process. Blue Shield of California thinks that a more piecemeal approach, like working with Cuban's company to secure low cost medications and Amazon for at home drug delivery, it can ultimately lower drug prices for its five million members. So this isn't only a blow to CVS, but also an existential threat to this entire pharmacy benefit manager business that has come under a lot of fire recently.
20:03And that's why you saw CVS competitors like Cigna shares fall yesterday. So this all depends on whether this ambitious new model that Blue Shield of California is pioneering is whether other insurers will follow its lead. I mean, Blue Shield CEO said that this new plan could save the company$500 million annually. So even if it kind of, I mean, you have to try that. Anytime you can save$500 million annually, you're going to have to experiment with it. It could blow up in their face. It could blow up in their face. But, I mean, Mark Cuban set out to a lot of people in the back of their mind. It's like, why do drugs cost so much?
20:39Like, isn't there a better way to get just some brand name or not brand name drugs for less? And, I mean, he's doing it. And I didn't expect him to make this big of an inroad this quickly and just kind of almost disrupt the entire industry. It's pretty impressive. All right, we have to move on. 76ers guard James Harden isn't the most popular person in Philadelphia right now. He was mostly invisible in last year's playoffs, and a few days ago called the team's general manager a liar, burning all remaining bridges with the team. But luckily for Harden, he isn't in Philadelphia right now. He is in China.
21:12And this week he experienced the power of Chinese livestream shopping firsthand. On Tuesday, Hardin went live with Chinese internet celebrity Crazy Brother Yang on China's version of TikTok, and Yang sold 10 ,000 bottles of Hardin's wine brand in seconds. At$60 for two bottles, that's$300 ,000 of product moved in the time it takes an opposing player to drive past Hardin for a layup. So Hardin, like all of us who've never seen livestream shopping in person, seemed genuinely shocked at what happened. He laughed. There's this video where it shows him laughing. He said, no way. And then he did a cartwheel out of giddiness.
21:4810 ,000 bottles of crappy wine in a few seconds. First of all, that was the fastest I've ever seen a move in years was him running to go do a cartwheel because he just made$300 ,000. But the data coming from this live stream was absurd. They said 15 million viewers tuned in. I don't know how many of those are concurrent and how many of those were over the lifespan of it. But still, 15 million. Well, it didn't seem like it lasted a long time. It lasted like 15 seconds. crazy and i mean the concurrent view record on twitch is 3.4 million and this live stream had again concurrent is different than total so who knows how many concurrent people are watching but it had to be a significant amount to sell 10 000 bottles of wine in in literally 10 seconds it was crazy to watch too because the guy claps his hands go go start buying and then he claps his hands and say stop buying and so it could have been much bigger it was truly just a power to show in an instant we can sell these bottles.
22:44It was such a flex because he goes like, hey, how many bottles of wine do you think I can sell right now? He's like, just watch me. I have such power. I'm a huge influencer and live shopping, this live stream shopping market is so big and people are so primed to buy via this method that I can literally just snap my fingers and move$300 ,000 worth of wine. Yeah, I mean, just to zoom out to the entire Chinese live streaming market, it's done$174 billion in sales in the first six months of this year. Crazy. There's been over 2.7 million live streamers that host 110 million shows. They've sold 70 million different kinds of products.
23:21Like this is such a big integral part of life in China. And yet no one's been able to figure it out in the US so far. Like TikTok's trying to do it, but it's just not working. We're not primed to do it. I mean, we look at the, it's kind of very similar to the NPC stuff. I feel like, right? Like the NPC ice cream thing that we talked about a few weeks ago. Yes. It traces its lineage in part back to these live streaming events where people are paying for things, you know, to happen on the video. But, yeah, it's really interesting how a lot of these social media companies are trying to make live stream shopping happen.
23:51But as of last year, it was only 2 % of total e-commerce market in the U.S. and just 0.3 % of the total retail market in the U.S. So we're clearly just not primed to shop this way. but also just another factor in the Harden thing is that Chinese people are crazy about basketball and the NBA yeah and they love James Harden really James Harden that has you will learn you will learn guys like on the he's been on this I hate Philly trail and he's been saying every time I come to China I just feel crazy love here they feel like I feel like they deserve to actually see me play he said these things about China so I could see James Harden to China happening in the near future.
24:29You know they loved Kobe. Yeah. They loved Kobe more than anything else. Absolutely. All right. To close out the week, it is back to school season, and I want to talk about some high schools that are spending more money on their facilities than Saudi Arabia is spending on soccer players. Well, not quite, but you'll hear it. It is a lot of money. First, let's head to my neck of the woods where I grew up, Western Massachusetts, to Deerfield Academy, which is your quintessential super elite super exclusive new england prep school but apparently it's eating areas could be a little fancier so it's selling an 89 million dollar municipal bond to finance the renovation of its dining hall okay deerfield takes its sit-down meals extremely seriously more so than your mom who insisted that you all eat together at dinner when you grew up the school says that sit-down meals provide an important opportunity for enhancing the community So it serves family-style meals seven times per week and also assigns students to a different table every three weeks so they can meet other students and teachers.
25:30So apparently perfecting this experience is worth taking out$89 million in debt. It's truly crazy. And the average boarding tuition for students is$68 ,000, which is just absurd, while commuter students pay$48 ,000. I mean, that's collegiate-level stuff right there. I asked my parents to go, and they were like, absolutely not. Yeah, absolutely not. You should have sold them with the meal thing. Like, Mom, I get to meet so many new people. Future presidents and the Koch brothers and Rockefellers went there. It's pretty hoity-toity. Do you know what the GOAT of expensive high schools is, though?
26:05Like Choate, maybe? IMG Academy, which is right in my hometown of Bradenton, Florida. Classic one-upper right there. It can cost up to$90 ,000 to go there if you're a full student athlete with room and board. Absurd. So that's focused on sports development. It's focused on sports. It is a, I mean, and their facilities are pretty much better than any college facility. So I guess you can justify the pace, but$90 ,000 a year to go to high school. All right. Well, that is a good segue to the other high school I want to talk about, which is Walnut Grove High School in Prosper, Texas. This, pictures of this high school, which is completely brand new, was just built and opened in August, went viral on social media in the past few weeks because these facilities look like they are from a D1 SEC school.
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26:49there is a 22 person 100 uh 2200 person mb like nba looking arena with a jumbotron in the middle kind of thing for its basketball they have a food court that has a sonic and a jimmy johns and overall this place is like i can't believe high school goes high school people go there i know it's crazy i mean and then yeah texas is just truly absurd when it comes to their high schools I mean, you have towns with populations of 19 ,000 people building stadiums that seat 10 ,000 people. It's crazy. With serving high schools that only have 1 ,500 total students. So it is truly amazing how big football is in that neck of the woods.
27:30And I just can't wrap my mind around it. Did you see pictures of their weight room? Yeah. They had like 17 squat racks. We got to go there, Neil. Again, we filmed a video about high school students getting free gym memberships. Let's just go back to high school just to use their gym facilities because, yeah, we need it. All right, Toby, before we go, got to get your prediction. England versus Spain in the Women's World Cup final on Sunday. I told you, I refuse to give predictions. Well, we need your predictions so our listeners know to bet on the opposite. Yeah, people have literally been messaging me.
28:00It's the reverse Toby. Yeah, reverse fade Toby. So I guess I'm going to back England because I kind of want Spain to win. So I'm all in on England. The Lionesses. The Lionesses. All right, that's our show for today. Hope everyone has a wonderful Friday and weekend. If you're near McCarran Park in Brooklyn on Saturday, stop by. We'll be there playing wiffle ball. Our email address is morningbrewdaily at morningbrew.com if you want to give us a shout about anything we talked about on this episode. Let's roll the credits. Emily Milliron is our editor and producer and noted James Harden hater. Samantha Veles and Raven Liu are associate producers.
28:33Isabel Nguyen is our technical director. Billy Menino is on audio. Hair and makeup announced their retirement after becoming a 401k millionaire. and Devin Emery is our Chief Content Officer. Our show is a production of Morning Brew. Great show today, Neil. I wish you all well. How are we going?
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Episode 128: Neal and Toby dive right in and discuss what has sent mortgage rates to the highest they have been in over 20 years and how US Treasury Yields are closing in on a 16-year high. They also discuss the debate in Hawaii of whether tourism could help or hurt Maui as the island recovers from devastating wild fires. Also, if you're investing your 401k properly you could be a millionaire by the time retirement comes around. The guys share their stock and dog of the week and James Harden sells 10,000 bottles of his wine on a Chinese livestream. Finally what high schools are investing millions into dining options and football fields.
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