Ask Me Anything: Beer w/ Tony Greer

7 Apr 2023 · 1 h 2 min

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Podcast Summary: Real Vision: Finance & Investing - Ask Me Anything: Beer w/ Tony Greer

Episode Overview In this interactive episode of the Real Vision podcast, Tony Greer engages with listeners while enjoying a beer, answering questions related to the current market trends, investment strategies, and sectors such as oil, uranium, and cannabis stocks.

Key Themes and Discussions

Futures Trading

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  • Platform Highlight: Plus 500 Futures offers accessible trading options with major instruments (e.g., S&P 500, NASDAQ, Bitcoin).
  • Demo Accounts: Plus 500 provides an unlimited demo account for practice.

Market Insights

  • Oil Market:
  • Saudi Arabia's surprise cut in oil production could be viewed as a political move against the Biden administration or as a forecast for weaker demand.
  • Greer notes that this cut may prevent oil prices from declining further, indicating strong demand at current price levels.
  • Current oil price action suggests a potential bounce back following recent lows.
  • Uranium Investment:
  • Greer expresses skepticism about investing in uranium, suggesting there are better opportunities available.
  • Natural Gas:
  • Cautions against attempting to pick the bottom of the natural gas market, indicating there could be more downside ahead.

Sector-Specific Insights

  • Uranium: Greer suggests the market may not be the best investment compared to others.
  • Cannabis Stocks: Describes the cannabis sector as being in a downward trend, with no strong correlation to broader market movements.
  • Gold and Silver: Shares mixed views on trading these commodities, noting their volatility and risks. Encourages caution when trading silver, labeling it as a "rich man's casino."

Economic Indicators

  • Cash Holdings: Many investors are increasing cash holdings due to market uncertainty and high-interest rates, leading to a significant amount of cash on the sidelines.
  • Market Trends: Observations about the overall economic environment, including potential layoffs in the U.S., influence investment strategies.

Personal Views

  • Investment Philosophy: Emphasizes the importance of risk management and maintaining a diversified portfolio.
  • Emotional Management: Stresses the need to manage emotions effectively while trading, suggesting that decisions should not be based on fear or greed.

Audience Interaction

  • Greer encourages listeners to ask questions, covering a wide range of topics including specific stocks, commodities, and personal investment strategies.
  • Discussed favorite music, personal anecdotes, and even a light-hearted banter about preferences regarding beer.

Conclusion Tony Greer provides a comprehensive masterclass on navigating the complexities of the financial markets while interacting with listeners. The episode underscores the significance of staying informed, managing risk, and the emotional aspects of trading.

Key Takeaways

  • Risk Management: Essential for successful trading.
  • Market Monitoring: Keep an eye on economic indicators and market trends.
  • Caution in Commodities: Be careful with volatile markets like natural gas, uranium, and cannabis stocks.
  • Diversification: Maintain a diversified portfolio to mitigate risks.

This episode of Real Vision highlights the necessity for investors to stay engaged, informed, and adaptable to the rapidly changing financial landscape.

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1:24And now to the top analysis of today's markets.

1:37What is happening, good people? Hopefully you're here to have a beer with Tony Greer. I just cracked one myself. I had the first question, actually. We're going to get right to it. TrillionX coming in asking, what kind of beer did you bring? Asahi, Stella, Belgian, Trappist, Oshimei. My new motto since Anheuser-Busch came out with the new cans with the insane people on them, I'm going with Peroni only. So that's what I'm drinking nowadays. And cheers to everyone that showed up today, especially if you have a cocktail also. Let's keep this in front of me. I got to be careful and follow the rules this time because I kind of punted that a little bit.

2:16The first question that came in was about uranium. And while I think that it is a lovely idea right now, I can think of a thousand better places probably to put my money. And we're going to get back to that a little bit later. I just want to make sure that I get to a couple things here Caleb Reese I've got a real vision guy calling in any thoughts on the surprise Saudi cut great question here we go let's get involved in your opinion is it an F you to Biden admin or are they actually forecasting weak demand for the rest of 2023 well we already saw the fist bump out at the curb at Riyadh that kind of gave us the idea that Mohammed bin Salman was none too impressed with President Joe Biden or any of his antics.

3:04So it just came out factually in the news, I think, this morning that he was no longer interested in pleasing the United States. So there's a little shot to the jaw there. That is going to continue to happen by that group that's breaking away and starting their own commodity exchanges and currencies. And you know who I'm talking about? I'm talking about Russia, China, Brazil now, Saudi Arabia, Syria. There's a number of other countries involved in that. So they're also a feisty group as well. So they are going to continue to flip Joe Biden the bird in that way. What do I think about the cut, though?

3:45Most importantly, you know, it kind of counterbalances a couple of things. Yeah. Yeah, and what it probably does is keep oil from sliding any further into the 60s, quite honestly. So, you know, the 500 ,000 barrels from Saudi Arabia, the 1.6 million barrels a day in total from the OPEC plus group. You know, a lot of that is to counter, you know, Russian sanctioned oil that has come off the market, things like that. So I think that it's going to be a net positive for oil. I'm actually really impressed by the price action, by the way. It came in, it opened up at$79.75,$80 after the news and really only traded to a low of$79, where it looks like there was a bid because it bounced off the price quite a bit.

4:33So it looks like people are still willing to either, one, get out at this price or, two, potentially add to their positions. The open interest in oil is kind of low but climbing, historically low but climbing a little bit with this move. So we'll see if that continues. And I think it can. There's probably a lot of firepower that can actually come into the energy markets, especially since everybody just got rinsed out on the downside when that range broke on the Silicon Valley bank news in the first week of March. so it spent two weeks below the$70 range came right back up above it if the Saudis were smart they might have thrown some chatter out there and given some funds a chance to get long because then you've got like happy participants in the market it looks like they were more interested in doing a Jamal Khashoggi job on the short positions out there and really just go after and not have anything else in between.

5:31So we'll see how we go forward. But I think we are going to continue to see, you know, pressure like that that keeps the oil price afloat. I'm sure that they see some kind of, you know, economic weakness that seems like it's going to be happening here in the U.S. at some scale, you know, with tons of layoffs all the time in the tape. So we'll see how it all pans out. So there's a lot to unpack. I don't want to spend the whole night on that one question, but I got us off to a good start there. to cover the major points. Should I buy a thoroughbred? Yes, definitely Jules Verne. I like the idea. Nothing to fear.

6:08Tony Greer is here. That is amazing. Okay, who else have we got here? What is my target on WTI? Well, you know, just to go back right into this trade, because that brings up another good question. I mean, I don't really know what kind of target to have on WTI right now, especially after that headline. The fact that it's holding$81. We're up at the top of the range here. There's a big range top at 83. So my guess is, is that we're going to work all the shorts out of the positions here. We might have a couple of guys come in and get long, and then the price is going to pull back to something like, you know, the mid to low 70s and then bounce again.

6:47So the way I approached this trade in this headline was that I made sales in almost everything across the board, You know, selling refiners into new highs for the move like Marathon Petroleum, trading out of the last of my oil position that I had. I mean, that was a get out of jail free card. So I took it. And I think that's the way you have to trade this nonlinear chaotic market. You know, I have in my mind that the curve is still minus 50 basis points, give or take, and two tens curve and bonds. And that means that there are some kind of snowballs that are going to get through the economic window.

7:26We just had a significant move lower in rates today. There was a 15 basis point slide after, I guess, factory orders and durable goods orders were the kind of straw that broke the economic camel's bank this week. Yesterday, we saw ISM data kind of weak across the board. Then today, it came in at 10 o 'clock. We had weaker factory orders, and the bond market just said, we'll have those. Yields went lower. We saw two-year yields drop from 4 to 385, and that was a pretty significant move. Same amount, about 12 basis points lower in the 10-year as well. I think that move lends itself to one of Cuppy's trades now that I see his name going across the street.

8:10And I think the builders might wake up on lower yields. So let's keep going. RS, FTGC Commodity Fund. I don't know that one. Indian Equity Market. And he reminds you, with all due respect, my friend, there are so many opportunities in the United States equity market and in the global commodity markets that I have at my fingertips. I have not looked beyond any of those. I try to stay focused. I try not to have more than six or seven, maybe eight positions on my pad at once. And I have no idea what's going on in Indian equities. But cheers to you guys that are navigating that market. What are we thinking about gold and silver?

8:53Oh, this is a good one. Daryl Densmore, I want to come back to the silver question. Daryl Densmore, are pot stocks dead? Oh, man. What is going on in the cannabis market is throwing the baby out with the bathwater and then some. And I can't say that the waterfall is going to end anytime soon because they are correlated to precisely nothing right now. You know, it doesn't matter what market, what the S &P is doing, for the love of God. Cannabis stocks have been making a new low almost weekly, monthly and quarterly for, you know, like a couple of years now. And I would say at some point we're going to trade through their value level and they'll finally find a floor.

9:38But I think it might be hinging on the Safe Banking Act. And until the market gets a real appetite for them, like an actual hedge fund bid with, you know, the idea that they're going to get better options in banking, if safe banking gets passed, maybe that makes them come alive. But right now the trend is down and I can't touch them with a 10-foot pole. We always joke around in my Slack channel that you can buy the entire sector for which you can buy a three-pack of one-and-one-a-half-inch rollable cones. So not doing great, the cannabis sector at all. Daryl, thank you for that great question.

10:15Trillion X, just next in line here. Oh, wait, wait, wait.

10:22Kenneth Notova, real vision guy, thought on natural gas, bottom forming. Like, man, he who picked bottoms come out with sticky finger. Be very careful picking a bottom in natural gas of all commodities. You know, I mean, you can try it once or twice. But, you know, you have to keep in mind that just because it's a$2 item doesn't mean they can't get halved again. So that's a way that you have to approach that position. Right now, there seems like there's plenty of natural gas. It seems like there could be more on the way. and if the supply side keeps feeding the market like it is now and there's no hiccups in Mother Nature, I ain't touching that trade with a 10-foot pole.

11:00In fact, I've already made an extremely painful donation to trying to pick a bottom there. So my money is done in the natural gas trade. You can continue to hunt that one at your leisure and at your peril. Yeah, it's a time for Contrarian UNG Trade, Jake Weaver. I just went through that and that one tends to get expensive. But yeah, eventually, I mean, I've seen natural gas go from two to ten about five, six times in my life. I'm sure it is not the last time. You know, eventually there will be a Mother Nature situation that soaks up all the supplies and tightens the spreads and it becomes a positive carry trade.

11:39And everybody piles into it and the positive flywheel goes on for months. And natural gas will go from two to ten again. via what price? I have no idea. Let's keep rolling. Let's see what the next thing is. Carbon credits, Luis Martins, Real Vision. Oh man, that's a tricky market. I kind of took my eye off of that ball. They rallied sharply for a long time, started consolidating, and I couldn't tell whether they were really attached to whether they were correlated to what's going on in the oil markets, what's going on in the global economies or what was really driving them. So I kind of stepped away from them and haven't followed them closely.

12:25I still have a feeling that it is sort of one of those built-to-rally vehicles where as the green movement continues to get legs in the corporate community and everyone signs up for it, there will be more and more people that have to hedge their carbon footprint with carbon credits. And so there'll be a constant bid to it until there's not. And I'm not really sure how to negotiate that. I have a much better edge in a couple of other markets, I feel. Let's see. Paul English, overview between a correlation of oil and nat gas. If there is, I don't see one. Obviously, there's going to be some correlations between the amount of drills that go in the ground and who's drilling from what properties, et cetera, et cetera.

13:11But in terms of trading them, you have to treat them like apples and oranges, 100%. Let me just keep ripping down here. Richard Dowdell, and then I'm going to scroll backwards. Thoughts on copper, silver ETFs? Yes. Those have been disappointing to everybody for a long time.

13:37since we had that rally in the beginning of the year in copper even with a weaker dollar the price just hasn't had that like exciting giddy up feeling that it's had before when it's going to do something special like when it was on its way to 11k um there is still the story where inventories are super low historically low going up against, swimming upstream against the fact that we're pivoting toward a lot of electronic vehicles and electronic battery power, which are going to need massive, massive amounts of copper, combined with the idea that the global economy is neither, you know, put it this way, China is 50 % of copper consumption.

14:25So unless their economy is going to start hoofing, it's going to be tough for copper to get, you know, really moving anywhere. And you can see, I feel like you can see the wishwash of funds getting in and out lately and getting washed around a little bit as it blasts through moving averages and you see weird kinds of volume moves. So I think that it's a dangerous place to play. And so is silver, by the way. Silver is another commodity that's popular in my chat, and guys love to be bullish and long silver. It is literally a rich man's casino. You can play in that casino. You're absolutely welcome to.

15:09I've been in that casino up to my neck, and I've been in some unpleasant positions in that casino while running a silver book on a trading desk. and I've just had so many personal unpleasant experiences with it that I really don't trade it. I kind of sit and spectate and I do have a smug-ass chuckle when it goes up a nickel for three weeks in a row and then goes down a dollar in one day and everybody gets washed out because nobody sold anything. So, you know, I think that that's how I'll continue to look at silver is stay away. Copper, I'm in the weeds looking for a catalyst, an opportunity, performance, exciting price action, any of the things that draw me into big commodity trades.

15:55So let's keep answering questions. Are you increasing your cash holdings? Dave Stiles, Real Vision Finance. This is a really good question. I like this question because it's a common denominator. A cash holdings thing is a common denominator. I had a client dinner in New York City, and we had a great group of guys. And what was amazing was that at different times, everybody told stories about sort of they and people in their business community all taking advantage of all interest rates over 4 % and socking wads of money away for a long time at that rate. You know, a lot of people have been beat up in the markets and a lot of people, you know, maybe don't have strong views about where to put them right now, where to put their money right now, because things are really dangerous, volatile and nonlinear.

16:49So I find it interesting that everybody is increasing their cash holdings. I know I have, and I thought it was funny that every single one of the people at my dinner had, and they also had, like I said, anecdotal professional stories where that was the way the train was moving. You know, people that are in wealth management and at private banks and things like that. So that was a really, really interesting thing. What it leads me to believe is that there's a lot of cash on the sidelines, right, to buy stocks. Hey, everyone. We're going to take a quick break right now to hear a word from our partners.

17:23We'll be right back with more of the day's top analysis on the Real Vision Daily Briefing.

17:32Gordon Pearson. Yes, what a great question, Gordon. Marathon Petroleum. This one is priceless because I've lived this a thousand times in this rally. Gordon Pearson, any specific reason why Marathon Petroleum was slammed today compared to its peers? And I love that because I used to wonder myself when I was a rookie at refinery trading in the markets. And this is so classic. On a day like today, you'll see Marathon petroleum have a it's got to be a major move yeah yeah a three and a half sigma seven percent move lower today right this is the greatest lesson in the world i mean we could do an entire we could do a keg of beer with tony greer on this question right here gordon so marathon petroleum the reason that it had that slide today is because yesterday it opened up let me just get this chart in front of me because this is poetic justice.

18:49I was making sales yesterday and I'm not tooting my horn. I was publicly making sales. I'm on Twitter timestamp. Josh Young asked me, what are you doing on the Saudi news, like on Twitter? And I was like, I'm selling stuff right into the energy rally. So Marathon Petroleum is something that I have had on my view matrix that I've been bullish. That's one of the stocks that I bought in the lockdown puke and out of the lockdown puke. And I have Marathon Petroleum shares ready to go for my grandkids when they're born. And the move yesterday was simply Marathon Petroleum has been trading beautifully because there's still portfolio managers that are adding this sucker to their portfolio.

19:32Why? Because the crack spread continues to hang in the 30 to 40 range on really positive gasoline demand, right? So this is one of the reasons why in the year like last year when the S &P is down 15%, stocks like Marathon are up 80 % on the year. And it's because the functionality of their business model is dripping on all cylinders, that being the crack spread between$30 and$40. So that's 3 or 4x their profit margin. the investment community that wants to play this from the long side understands that and is you know still getting into the position size that they would like to be in for marathon petroleum and valero and delic and some of the other big refiners that are operating now at these much higher margins so the stock's been on a run it opened at an all-time high yesterday right that That is traditionally used to be for me something that I would just be high fiving about.

20:36And at this stage of the game, I'm smart enough to know that if I'm high fiving with one hand, that I'm also making sales with the other hand. Because a stock that's gapping open higher while oil is just trading up to the top of its range with massive resistance ahead is still a sale. and you might be a portfolio manager that got into that idea yesterday saying oh yeah this was a big you know outside reversal potential here let's go make sales into it and not have gotten enough off of the sales that you wanted to make in one session so you came in today and said yeah that was the high for a little while 138 in marathon petroleum near 140 you know come in today somewhere sell it down to 130 i don't care take a piece off the books and next thing you know that's That's everybody's idea.

21:26And it's all the elephants through the keyhole. And, you know, down 7 percent. Who gives a shit when you're selling the stock at 130, you know, 129, 130 that, you know, you haven't seen that level, you know, really trading. We got there in a little bit in the beginning of March, but that's been the highs. So now what we're doing is distributing stock. We are feeding the new buyers and we're up at the highs yesterday where I'm proud to be on the tape to say, yeah, that's a portfolio sale right there. You can buy it back at cheaper levels. And that's what happens in Marathon Petroleum. Market of securities.

22:02There are no headlines related to Marathon Petroleum today. There are people all over the place, but not here on Real Vision or YouTube, wondering what the hell happened to their marathon petroleum position. So going back up the chain here, John DeVentura, I've seen physical gold go up when the long end of the bond market yields drop. OK, I got that. With higher for longer Fed funds rates above 5%, gold continue to rise due to inflationary uncertainty. put it this way as long as there are moves lower in yields gold is going to continue to rally that is what has been the correlation it has somewhat been correlated with a weaker dollar but most for most i think broadly speaking it's fair to say that lower yields have been favorable for gold and it looks like we have to get a test of that where we what top are we looking at it was around 2200 or so um just above where we are is that range top that it's got to bust out of um and it's certainly on a beeline too that level is about uh 2070 so we're about 50 bucks away from a big breakout level in gold it feels like if you're betting on yields going lower which i am and the people on the navigator with me are um that's the way you're expecting gold to go straight up.

23:24So we got to test that level. Mark Brandl on TLT, making it look close to buyable. Does it go on a run here? The Treasury market can rally. Yeah. After the reversal that we saw from March 8th to March 13th, where two-year yields traded from 5.06 % down to 4 % in three sessions, that was around a weekend. Remember, that was from when Powell spoke in front of Congress, saying that the terminal high end would be higher than investors thought. In terms of fighting inflation, two-year yields ticked 506, reversed to 4 % by the Monday morning after the Silicon Valley bank blow up on Thursday, which was the day after Powell.

24:13So when you see a reversal like that, you know you kind of know that that's the end of that move for a while you would you know it kind of go coincides with what looks like the change in rate cycles um so yeah you know now you've got a bet on yields going lower you've got a bet on fed feds cutting rates you know around the turn here and make sure that your portfolio is positioned for all the things that are attributed to that, like making sure that you get on the technology train this time and making sure that possibly being in the long bond trade, this looks like it's got room to run. So I do agree that that is a good spot.

24:53DK down 12 % on the month. There's a buyer in the fall. Let me take a look at this one. Hang on. Delic has lagged. It had that episode a while back that knocked it below its moving averages. Yeah. You know, put it this way. Delic is not the one to chase from the bull side right now. I mean, you know, you can try to pick a spot technically and mean on that. But, you know, when you look at how that's underperforming, you know, Marathon and Valero, which are, you know, the trades that I hunt to keep it very simple. The trades that I hunt look like the Valero and the Marathon Petroleum stock, where over a long period of time, they go from the lower left corner of the screen to the upper right corner of the screen.

25:34And if you're paying attention to everything that's going on in the markets on a daily, weekly, monthly, quarterly, and annual basis, you will find things like that to trade. The reason that you like to trade those things is because they give you a good probability, a chance of success when looking to upsize your long position into that rally, looking for a continuation of it or looking for it to hold a dip. You know, those that you'll learn over the years, you're paying close attention to names and trends like that are the ones that you make your year in. So I try not to take my eye off of the ball too much in the refiner stocks right now.

26:18Joe Amatuli, looking at any tech, any AI? Great question. No, I am petrified of all of it. I'm not investing in it. I have a half an eyeball on, you know, the theme as an investment.

26:34I was grateful to hear Elon Musk come out and say, let's put a hold on this. Just because I don't like where it's going, especially, you know, when you consider that the first chat GPT that came out, you know, was wildly biased already, you know, and you're like, you're like, okay, is this going to be another con job too? And, you know, a lot of it might be, I'm sure most of it isn't. And I know that once the snowball gets rolling with AI that I don't think you stop it. So I'm not sure that we should let it go unchecked. So that's the only view I have on. I am not educated in the space. I don't feel like I have much of an edge there.

27:13You know, it doesn't feel like funds. There was something fun about investing in Apple when you could put your record collection on your device and something fun about investing in hardware companies and software companies and investing in finding the trends in stocks like Adobe and things like that and jumping onto those for periods of time. but there's no fun for me in investing in AI. And it's not even like one of those things that's a hedge, right? Because it's not like, oh, I made money on the hedge, so I'll make it out of this AI thing alive. And it's like, no, you won't either way, you know, with or without all the money you have.

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27:54So I think that that's kind of the way I look at it. And it may be completely not the right way of looking at it. I have no idea.

28:04Let's see what else we've got here. does anybody have any general interest questions is anybody doing anything fun does anybody want to talk about music i think we covered a lot of questions oh boy here's a good one keto rx do i keep my life savings and self-employed 401k with the dollar dying or cash in for gold silver bitcoin wow i mean that's a heavy question right there I mean, I'm not your wealth manager, KetoRx, so I apologize, guys. I really do about that. I think that you should diversify, if anything, so that you can sleep at night. You know, I mean, I've sort of only diversified a little bit to, you know, a physical metal portfolio that, you know, hopefully I can hand off from my deathbed to my kids one day without needing it.

28:57But that's kind of just in case that that but to me, that's a monetary hedge. more than a trading position. And while we do have the trading position on now on the Navigator, simply drawn there by performance, I think that if you're talking about your life savings that if you have a little bit across the board and percentages that you are comfortable with, jot it down on a legal pad, what you'd be comfortable with given prices, volatility, et cetera, et cetera. But I know that seemingly over time, a larger allocation of gold always would have benefited me more. So I kind of like to look for, you know, steep dips and buy.

29:39And I mean, just like everybody else, but meaning buy physical and add that to the to the portfolio. So that's how I look at gold right now. And sort of as it relates to my sort of longer term life savings and things. So I think that a 401k is important because you have to have, you know, some allocation of bonds and equities. Jared Dillian is probably a great resource for that as he is a master of personal investments and has helped me with a lot of things that I would have never had any clue about. So that's just a plug for him there because he's really useful in that arena. And I think he's writing a book on...

30:23something like that i don't know okay how many beers will you drink neil moi great question let's try to work on one

30:35if you're going to do the beer theme you've got to drink the beer for the love of god um let's see if there are any new questions on here coming in ah your favorite band from each decade of the 70s 80s and 90s now we're talking about shit um let's go really quickly though can you play oh first great question like can you play eruption i'm rusty at it but if you give me some time i could probably get three quarters of it down and fool everybody um your favorite band from each decade of the 70s 80s and 90s wow you know i lose track i have to say well mike i'll tell you right now my favorite band from the 70s is gonna have to be the who because that's who i paid the most attention to as a single digit kid.

31:19I was, I had my older cousins that would play the Tommy album for me and tell me the story about the deaf, dumb and blind kid that was a pinball wizard. And man, did that freak me out, twist me around and, you know, have me wake up in the middle of the night thinking about, you know, some of the scenes in that, in that movie. So yeah, definitely the Who was a huge influence on me in the 70s. In the 80s, definitely that was Van Halen time. You know, I mean, I was full ass over tea kettle in love with Eddie Van Halen as a, you know, young teen and just absolutely floored by his guitar. I got to see him at a young age that my dad got me tickets to at Nassau Coliseum and at Madison Square Garden.

32:09And I was never so blown away by anything. I've still never been blown away by anything like the original Van Halen shows that I got to see, of which there were five with David Lee Roth that I got to see as a kid. So my favorite band of the 90s, by that time, it became The Grateful Dead, without question. In college, I always got to know The Grateful Dead. When I went to college, I graduated in 90, and it was after I got out of college and I guess spent some more time going to shows and registering more and more shows with what I really liked. And I got taken to the 10th row at Madison Square Garden in front of Jerry Garcia by a currency broker that was still a friend of mine named Bobby Nowicki.

32:57And he stuffed my face full of mushrooms and we watched the entire Dead Show from there. And I have never seen anything like it to this day. And so that is why, you know, you continue to go back and see, I got a lot of shows in with Jerry in the early 90s before he died. So that was my band. So that would be The Who and then Van Halen and then Grateful Dead. So really typical stuff, I guess. We're going to take another quick break to hear a word from our partners. We'll be right back with more of the day's top analysis on the Real Vision Daily Briefing.

33:32All right, let's get into some other questions, although that was the best part any chance we can trade out elizabeth warren it's amazing the who is great yep horrible who i understand moon the loon keith moon man he i was sad as hell the day he died that hit me like a kick in the nuts uh austin tacker top best five i believe it i'm dying to get there austin oh top best place to see a concert oh me top five uh you know it's got to be uh i mean red rocks is really mind-blowing. I've never seen anything like that physically structure-wise. That's a work of art. I just got to see three widespread panic shows there in the late 90s, and that stands out like anything else, but you got to throw down.

34:21I saw Fish at Hollywood Bowl, and I thought that was incredible, like a really, really special spot. The Garden is like my favorite place to go see anybody i get like more excited to see people at the garden because i see a lot of musicians show up at the garden like they never showed up anywhere before um so that's definitely up there for me the beacon theater is a special place for me super small super boutiquey and beautiful and what a vibe in there man you know for panic shows and and uh tedeschi trucks band and stuff like that or the almonds um and i'm sure there are many many more david lee roth d gardner definitely was Was the best front man of all time.

35:03Have you heard of Greta Van Fleet? Excellent band. Excellent band. Absolutely. Dig them. Saw the Dead a few times. Pueblo Beefcom. I like that. Hey, Tony bought the Marley turntable at the Senior Beer Cast. Love it. The Bluetooth. But yeah, man, they're pretty good. It's a good setup. I like this setup myself. I play it quite a bit. IPA or lager Manas Agarwal. Strictly lager guy. Post-COVID, I can't drink IPA. It all tastes like soap. And I literally, it's like COVID. Before COVID, I would literally have problems battling my weight because if I went out for beers, I'd drink like three or four IPAs, and that's like seven days' worth of calories.

35:41And so I'm now on this side of COVID. Since having had it, it tastes like soap to me. So I'm back to old non-Anheuser-Busch lager. I think as dollar starts its descent down – wait, let me just make sure I didn't miss any. Yeah, I think the dollar starts to descend down even if just, oh, yeah, I do. I don't think it's just on brick sentiment. I think it's on U.S. rates going lower. You know, the dollar has that phenomenon where as rates are going up, everybody is piling in to, you know, enjoy that risk-free treasury bond rate of, you know, we saw it up as 4 % change. On the way out is unfortunately going to be the reverse of that operation.

36:26So, you know, yields lower, people want out, and that comes out of the dollar. So it's selling dollars as well. I think that that trend is sturdy. The reason I have the most confidence in it being sturdy is because there are two central banks at the top that kind of threw their mark down in the sand. And then we had sentiment and technicals crash down behind it. Really, really convincing stuff, though. Like not the kind of stuff that looks like it can turn around anytime soon. I know that it can, and I'm not a terminal dollar bear. I'm not a non-reserve guy. I've heard that argument a thousand times.

37:04I agree with Brent Donnelly, who made some great arguments. I didn't even realize how often the de-dollarization thing comes up. And when you hear it after being in the business for this long, you're like, all right, I'll think about it. You know, it seems like it's something, right? And what's different this time? And, you know, when you look at the, you know, reserves that trade around the world, I mean, it's like 60 % plus or dollars and you can't even make a dent in that wave. You know, I don't care how many commodity markets you start. If you're trading in small amount of currencies, you know, without the massive flows, then you're never going to be a, you know, reserve currency yourself.

37:44So we'll see how that plays out. But I'm just bearish. Technically, I think the price can go down. You know, I don't think that it's going away or anything like that.

37:57So, cheers, Manas Agarwal. Iron Impossible, I think I see Tools of Titans in the background. Yeah, Iron Impossible. Man, put it this way. I skimmed through a lot of that book, Tim Ferriss, and I got frustrated with him on, like, I just felt like if you want to help people, help them by not flogging yourself with a 4 ,000 page book that, you know, is way too much for anybody to go through. Now, not to say that it's not valuable, but I was, I didn't go through the whole thing. I, you know, treated it like kind of a textbook and pigeonhole, excuse me, wrong, wrong, wrong metaphor, cherry picked things that I wanted to read about and really found them insightful and enjoyable, but the same thing, that is a four-hour movie that could have been two.

38:54Let's see. I like that you can see that. What's in my background there? I hope there's nothing incriminating. No, I'm just kidding. Van Halen Rocks, SS, they do still. Thoughts on the future of the Petrodollary Act? We just kind of went through that retrospect. I don't think it's may not go anywhere. It probably, you know, it may lend a weakish tone for quite a while. It It may cause people to sell it. It may cause the amount of transactions that take place in dollars go down a little bit. But I don't think that you're going to see these smaller currencies, in the immediate term anyway, break in to have an effect in anything that's going to affect my day-to-day trading, if that's fair to say.

39:35That's really an important discriminating line for me. How will the EIA adjustments be on the inventories tomorrow? The EIA adjustments, I don't know, man. And, you know, you take the numbers on face value and then you look at the reaction more importantly and you see how people are positioned and you throw that into the pile with everything else. You can't live and die by those numbers. Scotch is strictly bearded by Caleb Reese. Great question. Do enjoy a couple of different Scotches. I like Johnny. I'm not a fancy Scotch guy, but I do like Johnny Walker Black on the rocks as a holiday drink.

40:10um that stuff makes me fat so I try not to drink too much of it it also makes me pretty wasted so I don't drink it that often and um that's it though I I do like to go out and that's kind of a festive thing with me when I'm dressed up and drinking out of a glass like an adult I don't mind a nice scotch or Doug Morley what does Tony do to blow off stress um man I I keep moving. I walk my dog a lot around on the beach. So it's not just like, you know, kind of soft walk. I mean, you know, go two miles or so in the sand with your dog, chase him around a little bit. And you've got a good workout there.

40:48I spend a lot of time in the summer on my bike and in the water and playing hoops out on the court on the side of my house here. And man, there's a lot of stuff going on. So it's usually just staying in motion. Playing my guitar also is something that I really love doing usually that's at night and uh one of my favorite analog things to do um and that's it daryl then the first concert first concert daryl densmore real vision finance um proud to say that that was barry manilow that my mom took me to and it was definitely in the she's definitely in the 70s probably by the time i was 11 or 12 because we were with my cousin so yeah that had to be like 78 79 and barry manilow's heyday at nassau coliseum and i'll say that at that age like i loved it i was like amazed at like for totally taken by by even that type of music and just seeing the first person live and getting some scale um i got addicted to that feeling pretty quick and continued to go track down everybody else that i like to see favorite concert you know I was just thinking about it and I'm, I'm all right.

41:59So I'm on a little bit. I was going back over how much I liked fare thee well at soldier field in Chicago. Um, just in terms of how like meaningful that was to be there for it. Um, cause obviously this came out in a conversation. And when I think about things that I'm really glad I got to, it turns out that it's things like that. And so I'm trying to keep that in mind and make sure that I get to, you know, of some of the historic stuff and paying closer attention to kind of things like I like traveling to shows. Those are usually usually when you have your best experience because you're like it's like a destination wedding, right?

42:40It takes people out of their atmosphere and makes them focus on the music, the party, you know, the meal, the recovery and getting home, you know, and so it's got a beginning and an end to it. And those are the best storylines for me. Jonathan Ventura question. What do you think of Martin Armstrong, economic Socrates prediction of international war? Wow. Sounds highly probable more and more every day goes by, doesn't it? Manilow, pure gold, Pueblo beef con, right? Yeah, I was 11 in the 70s. Absolutely.

43:16Yeah, freakish youth. I've been I've gotten that comment before. One of the guys I worked with, a younger guy said, you have absolutely freakish youth qualities and you should use that to your advantage one day so if i ever come up with a good reason how i will can you play guitar for this one time or show us a tape of you playing oh yeah i can come up with something like that no i'm not going to go grab my guitar now i don't feel like it um i'm still a chord banger and a total for fun hacker player and i clam up in front of any kind of crowd camera or anything like i have to be playing alone so I can take a video of myself and I eventually will do that and just post it up somewhere.

43:58Um, cause I can play some stuff that sounds really like the original, you know, and, and, uh, I have fun with that. Um, but literally if I have to, I had to do like, for example, like I played a song with my cousin for my sister-in-law's wedding years ago at their wedding party and the, you know, whether wedding party parties and I practiced it, it's like five or six chords is a van morrison song couldn't have been easier into the mystic i mean literally like a third grade level guitar song and got to the thing and literally totally blanked on how to play it and had to like go back to my source and look up each chord as to how i was going to play this into that and like how to refresh myself because i got so nervous about playing in front of and it was a room full of family it was like 50 family members and friends that i knew So that's how not fit for stage I am on the guitar, but I am comfortable and will put something together at one point.

44:57I usually, my favorite to pick up is my Double D, is definitely my Gibson, my Gibson Les Paul Custom 2001, total hot rod of a guitar. I have my Marshall amp is actually on the fritz right now, but it sounds amazing through anything and even better through headphones, through a PV blazer that I played that you plug your headphones right into. And that's cool because you can just hear it yourself and you don't have to blast it around the house. But I did absolutely love when I was last time I was in Nashville, I played an unbelievable like 1950s.

45:39What is it? Throwback, you know, carbon copy of those Gibson guitars, Gibson Les Paul. And it was literally like, you know, you shake picking the thing up because it's like a fifteen thousand dollar item. It's got, you know, the Murphy lab scratches on it so that it looks real and everything like that. and you plug that sum bitch into a Marshall stack and man, you are instantly slash. Like it is unbelievable how good it sounds and how powerful that is. So we're going to be more guitar stuff. I love that you guys are interested. Back to commodities. Do you follow any Royal outfits? No. What advice would you give to young people who might feel like they missed a chance to catapult?

46:17Not having assets going in 21. Well, that's totally fair. And man, that's a tough one. You know, you can train yourself how to take risk and be good at risk. And over time, you know, you'll see how trades look bigger in front of you. And then you can, you know, put some money behind and risk some money on things. Right. There's ways to lever that and there's ways to look at that. But I think that that's going to be the way to go for the next generation. Right. I mean, you had a chance to get on that. you me everybody that that that trades anything had a chance to jump on that bitcoin rally you know from 10k to 80k and and that went on for a year and a half and could have jumped in at any time in size and made money and you know that was a great uh example of like the trading game taking place in real life we're like here here's a ticker symbol everybody go ahead go after it let's see what happens and and obviously for the for whatever reasons right or wrong everybody came after it and and had its bubble moment.

47:21But that was really cool to at least see that, you know, I saw guys that, you know, had just gotten out of college become millionaires on that move. And I got a feeling that that is kind of a way, the sign of things to come is that, you know, you're going to have to figure out how to be sitting in a chair paying close attention when AMC goes berserk, you know, and be able to trade something like that to figure it out. Or you can keep stacking your chips in a much slower fashion. you know, and do the Felix Zuloff type of trades and invest in salmon eateries and things like that.

48:01Ozglic, go for coffee instead. I like Steve Foote, Real Vision. Do you maintain regular trading hours? That's a good question because no, you know, I do have a regular schedule. And I don't really... I mean, there are times, you know, going into weekends when I have a bigger position that needs to be managed and needs more attention. But I'm usually, as long as I'm around on opens and closes, most of the time, like pretty much every day opens and closes. And then, you know, sitting in front of the screens, you know, a third or half of the week, you know, understanding price action is good. but I feel like stepping away from them has been beneficial for me in terms of just letting things breathe and think things out and think about things where things should be in your own head.

49:01You know, when you come back to the screens or when you look at the screens, you know, the next Monday morning and have things jump out at you that are different than your view, you know, and a lot, you can only get to a point like that when you spend time away from the screens and not looking at them and away from the markets. It's got to be something that, you know, happens kind of a conversation you have with yourself organically. And then you can weed out what really what your gut is really wrestling with in trading conversations. I took a break, a break from Joe Rogan to listen to Tony rant live.

49:35That is amazing. There is quite a rant going on here isn't there books on how to learn technical analysis lasse sakara um man books on technical analysis murphy's technical analysis is the only one i ever looked at so you can get anything out of there really simple great book um d gardner i like that idea make a video and put it in that area i have to do that i should do that i'm really i'm so i'm so camera shy when it comes to the guitar and like crowd shy and paranoid and it's terrible but I will put something together because I have you know what I'm going to do I'm going to sneak a recording on myself because if I don't know that I'm recording myself it'll go fine but as soon as I hit the record button I will start hacking notes up left and right I know it um do I ever go against your gut man that's a great trading question Mark Wells oh man do you ever go against your gut let me think about that.

50:36No, I don't think I go against my gut. I think that it's important for you to not play mental tricks on yourself, right? That's like a double negative going against your gut, right? Your gut is the thing that you got to rely on that tells you, no, no, no, this is, you got to get into this, right? Like the point of sale moment is your gut or no, no, no, you better get out of this before it gets worse, right? The ejector seat moment happens from your gut. Like, no, I got to be out, right? Because if it's happening from your nervous system, then it's too late already. Then you already lost, right?

51:18If it's your nervous system forcing you out of something, then you're, then you're cooked already. And I can't help you there. your gut is what gets you out of something before you fry. And your gut is what takes something from a pile of money to a position in a security. That's a reasonable size position. So the gut is not something that you want to fade and have a mechanism where you say, oh, my gut says buy this. And then I just say, nah, right. Then I'll never know what to do. You know, you've developed, you spend your whole life trying to develop a set of clear There are signals and mechanisms and things that take the emotion out of trading and make it really binary and simplify it as much as you can.

52:02And so using your gut to your advantage is something you have to have on your side. So, no, don't play tricks on your gut. That's a really great question, though, Mark Wells. Outstanding. Manas Agarwal from India. How do you manage to keep emotions out when the trade isn't exactly going your way? Count the money is gone. write the check write it mentally whatever you got to do write the number down on a piece of paper how much money you lost on that trade um that that's the way to make it happen right that's the way to say that the emotion can't be there right it's got to be this risk reward on this trade i'm risking one to make four i'm risking two to make five you know and i can do that within the limits of my account and when the limits of leverage and within the limits of sanity and risk management principles and that's what we're trying to do so if you do that and allow emotions to constantly get involved you're going to fry yourself before you know that's like i said your nervous system taking over and when the nervous system takes over it's you it's you're already done so managing the emotions is sort of you know learning actually to anticipate markets and make decisions based on, you know, the stars lining up in your brain and having, you know, the all important conversation with yourself, right?

53:28Like kind of how am I going to feel if I stay in this slash or get out of this? You know, like how am I going to feel? How am I going to feel if I miss this? Right? That's a good way to get yourself into a trade is ask yourself how you're going to feel if you miss it. Will you live with yourself if you miss that one? So let's see what we got here. Commercial real estate, I have no idea. I stay in my lanes, Travis Haynes. You see what I did there? There's a serious systemic problem there, and it is most likely to be the catalyst for the Fed to pivot. Travis, let me tell you something. If you and I, unless you're a commercial real estate expert, if you and I have heard all about the commercial real estate problem that the world is sucking wind on, I'm going to guess that in three, but it's six months from now, we probably won't be hearing about it so much again.

54:15And it'll probably crawl back under the rock that it came from. And it probably won't cause any systemic damage to the markets until it does one day, I understand. But my point is that we have been hearing about this for years and these waves in and out. And so I heard, I'm sure that the financing is dire. And I'm sure that it looks terrible. And I'm sure that the Fed will point their bazooka at that at one day, too, and sop up whatever mess it blows out onto the street, and we'll figure it out from there.

54:47CMT technician, does it have respect in the industry? Jay, Michael, good question. I respect people with CMT. You know, you had to put your study cap on and get through a set of standardized tests to get one. so I do credit those people even with you know more knowledge of technicals than I have you know without a doubt do I trust their system more than I trust my system no what I listen to them over my decision no but I do think that they're trained very well to do that kind of job technically so I do respect that and I think it's probably worth getting maybe if it's you know especially for guys that don't have the years and years of experience on a trading desk or aren't going to get that, you know, seeing institutional flows go by, you know, your whole career and understanding what makes those, what drives those and what makes them sort of land on the desk and things like that.

55:44So I guess there's a lot to think about there, but I'm saying, you know, if you can't get that type of experience than you know getting a cmt or some other license like standardized license that sets you apart from your peers a little bit at a higher edu at a higher you know educational level i think it's great absolutely yes summer spike coming jordan de juice i'm feeling you man i'm feeling you well i think we're getting toward the end here unless anybody has any more questions there is a um oh here we go there's another couple questions yeah i do think there's a summer gas spike coming you know jordan that depends on if we get if mother nature cooperates with hotter than normal weather um because other than that there's plenty of supply around here i'm sure europe is well stocked after that fiasco last winter.

56:40So I think so. Will commodities follow the two-year note down? Could do. Could do. That's the way the trend is going. You know, deflationary, deflationary, weaker commodity prices. The one thing that's different this time is that there is a vicious attack on supply, right? You know, Joe Biden is going to Saudi Arabia to ask for more production. He's not allowing the U.S. to pump any more barrels. You know, the whole thing about canceling the leases and then opening a lease in Alaska. You know, the U.S. energy policy is a shit show right now. So we'll see what happens. What is the best market wizards book?

57:15The first one by Jack Schrager is, I read both of them. The first one was better and awesome, I think. You can't miss that. Yeah, smash the like button, gang. Smash the like button. Nikos! Nikos is my man, always in my corner. I respect that, Nikos. That's absolutely awesome. Yeah, but we're going to close it up here. I'm going to go have some dinner and finish off the rest of the six-pack, which I have on ice right here, ready to go. And if there are no one, Travis Haynes, cheers, mate. Jay Michael, cheers. Tyler Jackson, how do you decide? All right, last question. Tyler Jackson, how do you decide if you should average down old positions or just open new ones?

58:03average down all positions is trading the same security opening new ones is trading a different security right so one is a different trade and one is they're totally different trades i mean one you're already in a trade doing badly looking to play offense not a particularly great move and opening a new one is it got a brand new world right the first dollar into a security There's a lot to talk about there. You would like the navigator, my man, Tyler Jackson. Thank you, Manas, from India for tuning in. God bless, my friend. You guys are absolutely awesome. Steve Ligari, great show. I appreciate you for tuning in and everybody else that tuned in.

58:39Cheers. We're going to wrap up. My dog just came in. Beckham knows that that's the end of Real Vision Happy Hour and that it's time for him to eat. So we're going to go right now. Cheers, everyone. Thank you for the great questions. You can find me at TGMacro on Twitter. You can find me at TGMacro.com online. And you can DM me on Twitter and I'll try to respond accordingly. But thank you very much for tuning in. Thank you, Real Vision, for hosting a great happy hour. That was delicious. And let me know what else I can do to help people figure out these utterly complex and technically difficult markets.

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