The Q4 Business Cycle: Leads and Lags

23 Nov 2023 · 55 min

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Podcast Details

  • Title: The Q4 Business Cycle: Leads and Lags
  • Date Recorded: October 8, 2023
  • Host: Julien Bittel, Head of Macro Research at GMI

Episode Overview In this episode, Julien Bittel discusses how leading and lagging indicators such as inflation, employment, and liquidity influence shifts in the business cycle and market sentiment, particularly as we enter Q4. The focus is on determining the conditions necessary for a positive market trajectory and examining various economic indicators' roles in shaping future market movements.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Understanding Seasonality and Market Trends
  2. S&P 500 Seasonality Chart: Historical analysis shows Q4 is generally positive for equities, with a 91% correlation to past trends since 1960.
  3. Semiconductor ETF Analysis: The semiconductor sector is positioned for a potentially explosive Q4, having been oversold.
  1. Business Cycle Indicators
  2. ISM Index: There's strong emphasis on the ISM index leading other indicators, suggesting that improvement in ISM is necessary for a bullish market outlook.
  3. Lagging vs. Leading Indicators:
  4. Leading indicators such as financial conditions and new orders are essential for anticipating market movements.
  5. Lagging indicators like unemployment and CPI must be monitored for signs of economic slowdown.
  1. Current Economic Indicators
  2. Public Enemy Narratives: Bittel identifies three prevailing narratives that could impact market conditions:
  3. Late-cycle economy concerns.
  4. Rising inflation.
  5. Credit crunch risks.
  6. Foreign Demand: Weakness in foreign demand could have broader implications for market growth.
  1. Credit Conditions and Employment
  2. Credit Crunch Discussion: Historical data shows that bank lending standards tighten before actual bank lending slows, indicating a potential easing in the future.
  3. Employment Metrics: Recent data shows a mix of strong payroll numbers and weak forward-looking employment indicators, suggesting potential job cuts ahead.
  1. Liquidity and Market Sentiment
  2. Liquidity Cycle Analysis: Current liquidity indicators suggest that we are at the lower end of the liquidity cycle, with potential for improvement into 2024.
  3. Market Sentiment: The sentiment is currently oversold, indicating a potential for a market rebound.

Conclusion and Future Outlook Bittel concludes that for Q4 to follow a positive seasonal trajectory, several conditions must align:

  • Continued improvement in ISM and leading indicators.
  • A decrease in core inflation to ease central bank concerns.
  • A slight increase in unemployment to trigger policy changes.
  • Rising liquidity conditions.
  • A sentiment shift that catches bears off guard.

Final Note The discussion is aimed at investors looking for insights into navigating the complexities of the current economic landscape as they prepare for potential market movements in Q4 and beyond.

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Key Takeaways

  • Market Sentiment: Current bearish sentiment may create opportunities for a market rally.
  • Focus on Core Indicators: Monitoring leading economic indicators like ISM is crucial for predicting market trends.
  • Liquidity Matters: Liquidity conditions are expected to improve, which could support market growth into 2024.

Stay tuned for more insights from Real Vision as they continue to analyze the evolving world of finance and investing.

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0:08Hi, everyone. Julian here from Global Macro Investor with another update. For those of you who don't know me or haven't seen me, I head up global macro research at Global Macroinvestor. with Raul. And I've been coming on this year doing kind of a number of updates around our core thinking on the business cycle. And I thought that today would be an interesting time to come back and update you on our views for Q4. Now, for those of you who watched the last In Focus from Raul, what we did is we went through a presentation around Tesla and this big kind of inverse head and shoulders pattern. And then we worked backwards from that bullish chart to construct kind of a narrative around what would be required for that to break out, right?

1:00So we covered that from a number of different angles, you know, from macro to liquidity. And I thought that I would do the same thing again today, start with a chart. And then we would kind of talk through around what would be required for it to kind of all kick off and take place. So what I'm going to do today is I'm again going to run through a presentation with you guys, starting with a chart, and then we'll look at it from all kind of core angles, including the business cycle, inflation, sort of our thoughts around where we are in the cycle via early cycle, late cycle, because that's another extremely loud narrative in the market right now, as well as liquidity and importantly, also sentiment.

1:50So I'm going to pull this up. So the first chart I want to show you, and this is the chart that is going to be the basis around this presentation, is the chart of S &P seasonality versus the current price trajectory that we've seen so far this year. And for those of you who aren't totally familiar with seasonality, essentially what I'm looking at here is the average price trajectory for the S &P 500 going back to around 1960, perhaps a little bit sooner. But again, a very good historical composite of daily returns. And what you can see is so far this year, we've been tracking this historical period with around a 91 % correlation.

2:39And as you can see, Q4 tends to be the most positive patch for equities, again, going back to around 1960. Now, this is also true of, on the next chart, here is the semiconductors ETF. Now, we've been long semiconductors all year. For those of you that are familiar with our work, you know, GMI is really about the business cycle. So we use that as our cyclical framework. But it's also about the secular framework. And so exploring the exponential age, our thoughts around the secular trends in technology, crypto, and that kind of how that all comes together. And when most importantly, we add to our secular bets due to where we are in the business cycle.

3:32So this is really what we're looking for here, right? It's opportunities to add to our secular bets at inflection points in the business cycle. And again, here is a chart of semis and Q4 tends to be that really kind of oversold or sorry that very explosive period for semis and if we look at the long channel if you pull it up on Bloomberg or something you'll see that we're minus two standard deviations oversold versus that channel so this is an interesting chart and from a very high macro level if we look at the next chart you can see that the semiconductor cycle is still in the process of bottoming right we're still very early days we've been showing this chart you know for really a number of months now.

4:19And it's a good global lead indicator, or I would lead indicator, coincident economic indicator of or barometer of how global growth momentum is behaving. So again, trying to start with that chart on seasonality. Now I want to work backwards and look at what needs to happen in order for that to take place. And what I think needs to happen is the ISM needs to continue higher, which I'm going to go through a couple of charts now on the base case for that. I think also, you know, we need to dispel the late cycle narrative. And, you know, this needs to not be late cycle, but, you know, early cycle, which I'm going to get into.

5:06We need to see some kind of improvement. and we've seen improvements in ISM, but we need to see a recovery in foreign demand. So let's say an improvement in countries outside of just the US. We also need to see core CPI head lower. And the reason I'm specifically targeting core is because I'm talking about central banks here. And I'll come into how to think about inflation a little bit later. Weaker employment data, and I'm really talking about unemployment here. We're going to talk about the latest payrolls number as well as a couple of other numbers here in September and get through that. So I'd like to see those numbers weaker into Q4 because I think that that gives the Fed cover to basically stop QT.

5:55So again, there we're going to talk about liquidity and then I'll basically wrap things up on sentiment. What we're trying to do here is in order to get this seasonal pattern correct, and see the kind of the melt up that that chart is implying is we want to catch basically the bears offsides, right? So we want to see depressed sentiment there. So we're going to do that as well later on. Now, in terms of growth, the first chart I think is always very helpful to start with is the GMI business cycle dominoes, okay? And what this is, is the showing the ISM leads versus lags. uh so again for those of you who have been in the pro tier uh for this year you love be familiar with this chart but just as a quick reminder anything to the right side of t equals zero ism leads the ism and anything at t uh equals zero and negative lags the ism and so raul and i have really been focused on our lead indicators like uh the gmi financial conditions index new orders to inventories, which just tends to be where risk assets operate.

7:04And it's important, just I'm going to name a couple of data points. Only a few are on here, because otherwise it gets really confusing. But just to understand that basically everything else is lagging. You know, at minus one month, you have overtime hours, right? So hours worked. At minus three, you've got durable goods. You've got capital goods orders. You've also got GDP. So that's up at minus three versus ISM. At minus four, you have industrial production. You've got things like imports and exports. So that's at minus four. At minus five, you've got cyclical job growth. So there I'm talking about manufacturing, construction.

7:40At minus seven, you've got unemployment. Excuse me, at minus six, you've got unemployment. And these are average lags, right? At seven, CPI. And then all the way back, you've got things like wages and CPI shelter, the most lagging elements of the business cycle. And even if you come back up, you know, at minus two, you've got things like retail sales. Again, it's just the bulk of this data really lags the ISM. So in terms of ISM, what's actually been happening and what have we been talking about? Well,

8:20the RISM momentum index, right? Here we're talking about a six-month lead versus current ISM, had been projecting that the ISM would start to rise, right? And is currently suggesting a seven point rise in ISM by March of next year, which would suggest an ISM of around 53, you know, during Q1 of next year. And this is also in line a little bit less of a lead. But here we're looking at another one of our lead indicators, which has been pretty much spot on recently, suggests that the ISM will be a little bit higher, but mid-50 regions, region by Q1. So all of these, you know, our forward-looking indicators have turned higher.

9:09And, you know, looking back at where we were, In Q1 of this year, this is really what we've been calling it for. And you have to remember via the business like Domino's chart that equities bar anything systemic or entrenched will tend to front run the ISM. And that's what they've been pricing in, which is why during our New York interview that Raul and I did, I think it was back in February. You know, we were already talking about this happening and that this was going to be priced in and that the ISM would shortly turn higher. And even if some of our lead indicators were pointing lower, because some of them were split, right, suggesting that the ISM could go a little bit lower, we said that that was already in the price of equities and that had been priced in in Q4 of last year with an ISM of around 45 being priced in with the S &P 500 and something like 37.7 in the NASDAQ.

10:07So we said even if it does dip lower, which again, was our base case early Q1, but then we saw kind of everything turning higher. So we switched gears, but we were already saying that it wouldn't really matter for equities and that they would trade higher because they had already priced it in essentially. Now coming in a little bit closer, now we're coming into new orders minus inventories. So at three months versus current ISM, again, we saw another big rise in September. And even when we look at the coincident market data, and I mean coincident versus ISM, you know, enrichment fed numbers in September exploded higher.

10:48And it's exactly the same thing when you look at the Empire survey for future new orders. This is really the outlook for new orders over the next six months. I mean, big, big moves. And this is, again, what we've been expecting and talking about. And part of the reason why equities have been grinding higher this year, despite, you know, a correction over the summer months. Now, so just covering, coming back to that seasonality chart at the beginning, as I say, let's look at this chart, say what would need to be true in order for this to happen. And one of those is that, you know, the manufacturing sentiment would need to trade higher.

11:30And we think that that happens, right? Looking at these, continues to happen, looking at these ISM lead indicators. Now, public enemy number one right now, and there's three of them. This is late cycle. Public enemy number two is inflation. No, public enemy number two is actually the credit crunch that's coming. And public enemy number three is inflation's sticky and is going to remain higher. So let's talk about public enemy number one, which is that we're late cycle. And I really like, this is how I've always thought about the business cycle, is I've taken a series of indicators, which, and you can see here, we're talking about equity valuations, we're talking about the yield curve, we're talking about earnings, margins, labor market conditions, which I'll come to in a minute, CEO confidence.

12:29And you can see that really in Q4 of 2021 and early Q1 2022, that was economically speaking, we were at levels historically consistent with a late cycle economy, right? Wages were still rising, now they're falling. Job openings were still rising, now they're falling, right? But the yield curve wasn't quite inverted then, but it was nearly 15 bps from inversion or so by March of 2022. So we were very close. So the yield curve was very flat. Evaluations were expensive. They since come down. So the point is, when you look at the total number, while we were at 94%, as I say, with this region of Q4 to Q1 of 2022, we've since come down to 44%.

13:23The ISM peaked. It's now troughed. Inflation was extremely high. It's now come down. And here I've excluded shelter, the lagging component. Labor market conditions, people are looking at a 3.8 % unemployment rate. But there again, I'm not talking about the unemployment rate because as I said before, that's lagging versus the ISM. So you need to be focused on leading indicators of employment. And that's what I have within this framework. So that's come down already considerably. What else? What else can we look at? CEO confidence. CEO confidence was extreme. It's now bottoming. We're going to look at that in a second as well when we get into kind of the credit crunch public enemy number two.

14:08So the second or part of this late cycle thing, and as I mentioned earlier, is what we, there's a lot of people still talking about foreign demand remaining week in 2024. But the point that I've been making for a while now is that it's already very weak. And if you look at Eurozone imports from non-European countries, it's very likely that Europe's already in recession. And we've been talking about this for a couple months. And also, you know, countries like South Korea, their imports have been improving over the last two months, which is, you know, again, what we've been expecting. But you can see that this was basically recessionary levels a couple of months ago.

14:48So foreign demand is already extremely, extremely weak. But when you look at forward-looking indicators, so here we're looking at the percent of EM countries with rising OECD country breadth. So the number of countries rising month-on-month creating a diffusion index. And this is advanced 11 months versus South Korean imports. So you can see here we're really talking about an environment where over the next three to six months, these numbers should be higher. And it's also highly inconsistent to see the ISM turning higher without global exports also turning higher because the US tends to be leading in the cycle.

15:30Now, beyond economic momentum turning higher, what we're also seeing is, and again, I've shown this chart a couple of times now, it's interesting to watch it progress. Because I had shown this chart when we fell below 10 % of countries with lead indicators above trend, the way to think about this above trend being 50 and expanding. we felt we were below 10 % historically speaking going back to what is it 1965 or so every time we've fallen below 10 % it tends to be a pretty good or I should say a very good strategic buy signal for equities and I think I showed this at 16 % a couple of months ago so we were rising now we're at 29 % but we're nowhere near you know the levels that would you know peak economic levels within that late cycle framework in fact um this is not included there but you can very much see that uh peak levels are you know not quite at 100 percent but you know clearly above that 80 percent level consistent with um a lot of the other indicators right when i say we get above that 80 percent 80 percentile of the indicators included within that late cycle composite, that tends to be signaling that we're late cycle.

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18:06So public enemy number two is, as I said, the credit crunch. and we actually covered this Raoul covered this briefly um and it wasn't the latest in focus um but an update uh as well in the pro tier because this is something I've been talking about as well um since really April in on Twitter or X whatever um and the point here is this is what people are really talking about. People keep saying, respect the lag. And I mean, I would say that that's overused, misused, kind of misunderstood. There are leads and lags in the business cycle. We've outlined them within the dominoes, but this is one historically, this relationship between bank lending and bank lending standards.

18:56So here I'm basically looking at large, medium, and small firms within this CNI loan bucket, so commercial and industrial loans, as well as household credit. And I've basically aggregated them all together to create this bank lending standards, all sectors bucket, and it's advanced 12 months versus bank lending. So what people are saying is, from mind the lag, bank lending is about to slow. And what I've been saying, as I say, since basically April when I wrote this thread on this, is that just like bank lending standards are leading versus actual bank lending, the ISM also leads bank lending standards by around 12 months.

19:40But again, going back to the GMI business cycle dominoes, the equity market tends to front run the ISM by around three months trading in line with those new orders to inventories. And then Raoul and I are further out trying to anticipate these transitions. And so the point here is that the market tends to move in line, if not a little bit before the tightening in credit standards, but tends to look through the tightening in actual bank lending because of the lag. And more recently, if you look at this chart, you can see that the ISM has actually been perhaps even leading a bit further. And indeed, here there's a four-month lead versus bank lending standards.

20:20Here I'm looking at bank lending anymore. We're going back to that lending standards metric. And you could see that if anything, the tightening, the worst of it is now behind us with the ISM starting to base. And what's being implied by new worst inventories is that we should see bank lending standards altogether starting to ease from here or at least tighten less significantly, right? So turning higher. And you're also getting a sense of that. CEO has got a pretty good sense of what's going on at a high level, at a macro high level. And conference board CEO confidence has been trading higher for a couple of quarters now.

20:58It leads bank lending by around, well, a quarter. So again, we're nearing the end of this tightening cycle. And that's what equities have started to price in. Very similar to our GMI financial conditions index. The worst of the tightening was already behind us in Q4 of last year. I mean, our financial conditions index was as tight as it was during the global financial crisis. So, you know, something like 2.5 standard deviations. It was a really, really big move. And our financial conditions index was leading the Goldman Sachs measure, you know, by a number of months. And so people were still looking at the Goldman measure saying financial crisis are extremely tight.

21:36But they had already actually started to ease. So if anything, this data, the bank lending standards is leading, as I say, bank lending, but it's not a good leading indicator of the economy because the ISM tends to lead that by, you know, recently by around four months. And as we said, based on our lead indicators, the ISM is starting to base and should be back in expansion territory, you know, next month or the month after that, and well on its way to 55 by Q1 of next year. And coming back to this equities, you know, having already priced this in and financial conditions being as tight as they kind of since global financial crisis in Q4, you can see here, here I'm not talking about bank lending, I'm talking about the standards component again, which is again leading bank lending, actual bank lending activity by 12 months.

22:33The S &P 500 has already priced this degree of tightening last year, which is what Raoul and I were arguing all along, was that with equities down as much as they were in Q4 of last year, that we've already priced in a significant tightening in bank lending standards and therefore bank lending with a 12-month lag. and that essentially things couldn't really get a whole lot worse in terms of the year-on-year comps and equities would need to price in an increase in the rate of change because that's where markets discount. It's not the nominal index level that matters. It's actually the rate of change.

23:21Um, so, uh, again, financial conditions, uh, have loosened, sorry, loosened. Um, there's, they're starting to tighten a little bit now with what we've seen with the dollar. Um, also bond yields kind of remaining elevated, but the interesting thing about bond yields is given the year on year comps, even if yields are starting to rise a little bit more here, The year-on-year comp is still coming down, which in a way is also an easing of financial conditions. But the fact that commodity prices have also started to rise has tightened things. So what we need to see is essentially what's been driving financial conditions looser over the course of from June 4 essentially through to the middle of this year was dollar weakness coupled with commodity prices falling as much as they did.

24:16Now those two tailwinds have become headwinds to an extent, but the fact that bond yields in year-on-year terms are still kind of coming down, that can create the next event of potentially a rollover in the dollar as well. because what's going on with the dollar is why the dollar has been bid recently is because what we've seen is on the left-hand side of the dollar smile when the u.s when u.s growth outperforms the dollar tends to strengthen which is what we've seen versus europe and you know the countries like south korea which i showed you before but the dollar also strengthens within our framework our quantitative framework which is winter when growth is lower and inflation is lower which is essentially a scramble to buy safe haven assets, dollar included.

25:11But at the low end of that dollar smile, essentially a period where global growth momentum starts to improve, we see synchronized global growth momentum, which is what I just showed you with the ISM versus global exports. That tends to be a phase where the dollar is weaker. So that could also drive the next lay higher in financial conditions. But our GMI financial condition index leads the ISM by nine months and it leads equity markets by six months, given that three-month delay that I've just discussed. So we have a view whereby equities might trade a little lower into one of next year for a period of time before financial conditions start to ease again.

25:55But we have a lead on that, so we can monitor that. It's essentially. Now, the public enemy number three is inflation. Okay. So sticky inflation. And I've covered this dashboard a couple of times, but the important thing is from a very high level is understanding the split of inflation. So we're at a very strange, not strange, very normal point of inflation whereby, you know, energy is 7 % of overall CPI. Food is around 13. And then core is 80 % of headline CPI. And within that core number, that 80 % is split roughly at around 21 % goods, so commodities X, energy and food, and 59 % services, of which that service is all basically rents or shelter.

26:46So you can see that here. I mean, basically goods inflation and energy inflation have already kind of done their thing. This is what drove headline lower over the course, in line with what Raoul and I were talking about since basically May of last year during our last roundtable, we were saying inflation was peaking. So this is what's driven headline CPI lower. But as you can see, the heavier component like shelter is still very elevated. And that's 35 % of headline and things like education, recreation. These are also included in CPI services. And they're not big weights, that are around, you know, 5%, but again, all peaking.

27:30And so this is, we're at this stage now where, you know, commodities can start to trade higher. So I can show you that on this next chart, you can see that, you know, this is the Bloomberg commodity spot versus CPI. We can see that commodity prices are actually still negative in year on year terms, but they had plunged and this was driving the CPI number lower. But it's also very normal if we look at the next chart that given where we are in the business cycle, so new orders, inventories, this leading commodity prices by seven months, that commodities will start to trade higher. But even things like food, which is, as I say, 13 % of CPI, when you look at lead indicators for food, prices.

28:21I mean, food prices are still on a year-on-year basis falling from something like 11 % down to just above 4 % today, but fertilizer prices are still collapsing. That's a good lead indicator for food. But more importantly, the shelter component, 35 % of total CPI, is still coming lower and should continue lower well into 2025 because case shiller house prices are leading by 15 months and so like i said actually i'm going to come back to the historical composite in a second gets to the bit a little bit later but in terms of those sticky this is the thing to focus on in terms of those sticky things so the things that are large and lagging there's still evidence that those are going to come down, including wages, right?

29:12There's absolutely no evidence out there. And we've been talking about this. We pushed back hard on wages basically all this year. But when you look at service sector wages from the Richmond Fed in September, they continued lower, right? Similar to wage expectations for manufacturing. Again, new cycle low in September. Looking at the Atlanta Fed wage growth tracker, so if we're looking at jobs, switchers collapsed again in August. And here's the thing is, this is what we've been looking at is our lead indicators for wages. So despite all the hype and the talk and, you know, I mean, at GMI, I try and remain as data dependent as possible, right?

29:54I mean, there's a whole bunch of narratives out there around, you know, everything from where we are on the cycle to wages was another one to the credit cycle. And, you know, again, trying to remain as data dependent as possible. And another chart here is the quits rate. So even in September, looking at the jolts, quit rate numbers, again, big down, right? And this leads the Atlanta Fed wage growth tracker by around nine months. So there's just, you know, no real evidence that wages will rise again from here. Yes, they're still elevated, but they'll continue to come down given where we are in the business cycle.

30:34When people, again, going back to the late cycle narrative, wages are rising in late cycle, not falling. And then coming back to that historical composite, you can see that actually as energy inflation, and here we're looking at the major five historical outbursts of inflation going back to the 1940s, kind of see that inflation headline comes down it starts to turn higher for a period of time as you know the kind of the leading elements of inflation so commodity inflation the higher commodity prices leads to higher goods price prices which late in the cycle leads to higher services prices services inflation as those as as the forward-looking stuff commodity prices starts to turn higher and all of that really heavy stuff actually Raul and his focus did some great kind of hand visuals with that you know peaking right so the the sticky laggy stuff is is peaking but they haven't really done their move yet and yet commodity prices which are in total 28 percent of cpi if you include the goods um plus energy but then you just have the shelter component alone which is bigger than that coupled with all the other things that i mentioned as these kind of this move hasn't yet happened yet and this is starting to happen you know cpi trades a little bit higher and then reverses lower again, which is hugely non-consensus.

31:55I think everyone's of a view that CPI has bottomed. And we saw something also very similar in the late 1940s. And this has been our kind of base case for inflation all along. And this is not the triple wave of the 1970s, which was largely driven by demographics. But what we know now is that it's not the same situation here. I mean, what we're looking at is post the 1940s is as the war ended, people left the military labor force, entered the civilian labor force, and you saw a big influx in both demand and supply-related inflationary pressures, which sent inflation skyrocketing higher. Then in 1947, it peaked, rolled over, bounced a little bit as those components started to, heavier components peaked, you know, a commodity started to base around and then continued lower and went negative for a period of time and then spiked higher and then kind of worked itself out.

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33:06So this is very much our base case, not the triple wave of inflation during the 1970s. you have to think back that again in in 1945 so the baby boomers ranged from 1945 to 1965 at the time when everybody came home from the war people literally and you know families wanted to make you know make love not war and so we had a huge influx of births um and that was what drove that demographic story higher during the 1970s inflation higher during the 1970s and we just birth rates are actually falling and birth death rates are collapsing, right? So very different situation. So this is sort of our base case, but also just to illustrate that about halfway down the peak in headline CPI, we tend to see a bounce.

33:58The other really important thing is looking at the latest GDP print, you have this price index. And again, the business cycle drives inflation and not the other way around. So here we're looking at a two quarter lead. So this too suggests that CPI will head lower. The other thing is looking at inflation expectations. This is the one year break even traded a little bit higher in August and September. And now is that a basically a new cycle low in October at 1.2%. And the two year, so two year break evens look like they're actually breaking lower now, right? So at 1.8%, which I think is interesting because I don't see a whole lot of people talking about this, but essentially, so inflation expectations are falling.

34:45And when you look at the PPI numbers out of certain countries, I mean, look at Spanish PPI, minus 10 % year on year. Germany, minus 13%. Norway, minus 37 % PPI numbers. I mean, it's bonkers, but again, makes sense within what we've been saying all year is that, you know, due to the base effect, you know, these big elevators up, elevator up, you know, tends to result in an elevator down. And that's exactly what we've, what we've seen. Even if you look at trade services, PPI out of the US, you know, we just went negative for the first time since 2017. So this is essentially markups around transport and wholesale business lines.

35:36We're going to take another quick break to hear a word from our partners. We'll be right back with more of the day's top analysis on the Real Vision Daily Briefing.

35:49Now, further up, again, the supply chain in other countries, here we're looking at the PPI numbers for China, India, South Korea, and Canada. And within kind of my quantitative framework, we're starting to transition countries into summer. So rising growth momentum and rising PPI numbers is this kind of PPI slowly starting to come around. Now, the confusing bit, I think, here for people is, you know, what are we trying to target here? And what we're trying to target at GMI, what we're talking about is an injection of liquidity is we're trying to look at the Fed. And the Fed isn't focused on PPI.

36:31They're not focused on commodity prices. They're focused on core. Now, if you and I were, if you're, I mean, if you and I are having a discussion around and you're a developer, right, and you're looking at a certain number of commodities that you'll need and you're going to need that stuff basically heading into Q1, Q2 of next year, it's a very different discussion, right? We'd probably be having a discussion around buying some forward contracts targeting a certain month next year to hedge the rise that some of those, your input costs rise. So I see that far off the supply chain, or I can see, you know, the PPI numbers, especially when I just showed you the numbers out of Europe and out of, you know, Spain and Germany.

37:18I mean, we can go a little bit lower here, but the base effect starts to become extremely positive over the next couple of months. So I see that all happening. But why I think headline trades lower is because of all those very heavy things. But most importantly, because we're talking about the Fed here, What we need to focus on is core. So here we're looking at CPI, all items, less food, shelter, and energy. And you can see already, if we exclude, if we look at core CPI, and we exclude the most lagging, heaviest component of CPI, we're already at 2.3%. We peak well above 7%, and the base effect is still negative through this year.

37:58And so this is what the Fed is looking at. And this is why we're focused on these numbers, is because what we're really talking about is an environment where the Fed has essentially covered to ease. And it's the same thing when you look at core CPI year on year. So here we're excluding the shelter component. You know, we're at 4.5%, call it. The base effect is still pretty much a straight line down. And when we look at the core three-month annualized numbers, you know, we've gone from slowing to collapsing, right? So again, this is what we need to be focused on from a Fed's point of view. I think as far as they're concerned, we're pretty much there.

38:41The cover to EECA is not going to come from lower or higher CPI numbers. It's really going to come from employment, which I'm going to cover next. But when you look at, just to kind of hammer home the point that it's all about, core in that central banks are just a delayed reaction function to CPI and why even if CPI continues to bounce here for a couple of months, we shouldn't be overly concerned. Because here you just look at, Brazil was one of the first central banks to hike rates back in 2021. And they have since cut rates twice, and they cut rates again in September. And they're very likely to cut again heading into next year because they're really just chasing their core CPI numbers lower.

39:27This is my point is this is all about core CPI. And just to, again, illustrate here, we're looking at headline CPI, but of course the lead is pushed out even further. I mean, look at this chart. It's the Bank of England. So now we know they paused at five and a quarter percent. And this is CPI year on year advanced 12 months. And then where the solid line becomes the dotted line is essentially the base effect. So already, I mean, you can see that CPI is just above 6%. This, I mean, the Bank of England is really just the 12-month delayed reaction function to inflation cycles. And we know that CPI is extremely lagging.

40:09And so this is, again, why, as I say, we need to focus on the lagging bits of inflation because that's where central banks are focused. If you think back to the GMI business cycle dominoes, you've got ISM, right? And then you've got at kind of that minus seven to eight month mark is where central banks tend to operate via the data. And this all makes sense within what I'm showing you here. Now, the next thing we need to talk about is employment. Now, you know, surprise, surprise.

40:41The payrolls number for September came in hot, right? Doubly hot, like double versus expectations. I'm not going to sit here and all and say that's what we were expecting if you look at our proxy it was continuing continuing to suggest that we would head lower now we've seen still we saw a couple of revisions higher over the last couple of months but we've still seen six consecutive months lower of revision so I'm not going to sit here and say that it wasn't a good print it was a good print but we need to kind of wait it out right and see what happens next because there's still scope for revisions versus this kind of ominous gap between some of our lead indicators.

41:23And also we've just seen revisions. So you don't really know what to believe and just you need to focus on the leads. And the other thing that's a little bit strange is that the ADP numbers for large firms in September cut jobs. So it's 83 ,000 jobs and job cuts. Also the Philly Fed numbers for the future number of employees rolled over sharply and collapsed in September. And then when we look at temporary help services, so here we're looking at short-term employment, you know, kind of three to six-month employment contracts, you know, continue to go lower in September. And the thing to think about here is that, you know, generally, because temporary employment contracts are a lot less dense in terms of, you know, compliance and legal.

42:20You know, it's a lot easier to cut temporary jobs before you can cut, you know, say permanent jobs. And so this tends to be a leading indicator of overall employment dynamics. And you can see coupled with what I just mentioned with ADP plus some of the Fed data, this is sort of, I'm looking at these numbers and I want to see, look at them, continue to monitor them over the course of the next couple of months, because I think that unemployment starts to tick higher. And so, and that's the core thing. I'm not going to take away from the payrolls number. I just, you know, I want to see what things look like next month, because some of the data coming in that we've seen so far in September is very counterintuitive to that number.

42:59And if anything, we've seen all the payrolls numbers that we've seen so far this year haven't been true because we've had revisions. So I'm looking at all this. So the unemployment rate came in at 3.8%, so it's flat, but in year-on-year terms, we're rising and sharply. Now, this is partially down to the extreme unwind of the COVID base effect, but only two other times historically had we seen rising unemployment in year-on-year terms. Has it been a false signal? All other signals have meant recession. And when you look at forward-looking indicators of unemployment, the NFIB, so small-distance hiring plans, you can see that we're still looking, I'm still, you know, a four and a half unemployment rate, 4.5 % unemployment rate is what this is suggesting.

43:50So roughly, let's say a 1 % rise in unemployment from here. Seems about right. And it's not just this chart. You can look at the home builder sentiment chart. You can look at the jobs, plentiful, minus jobs, jobs hard to get. So the conference board data, it all kind of points to the same thing, right? And also, if you look at U1 unemployment, so long-term unemployment, those being unemployed for 15 weeks or longer versus the 12-month moving average, it's a simple chart, but it's still a powerful chart. I mean, never have we been above the 12-month moving average for more than a month without that there being a recession.

44:32And so we were there. Again, I think it was 1.4 % again in this month's data. The actual recession threshold is basically a 50 basis point rise off the lows. So a 0.5 % increase. And what I was saying, again, is we're looking for something around 1 % in Q4 or by early Q1. And so that's really the trigger to look for. Then you know that we're in recession, right? Because we've never since 1950 been, have seen a rise in unemployment of around 50 bips off the lows without there being a recession. And the important point with this, as far as the Fed is concerned, is every time unemployment spikes by around 50 basis point, the Fed starts to cut rates.

45:18and so with that in mind going with kind of the more cowbell meme that Raoul and I have been talking about all year this just essentially if unemployment does start to rise from here and we get that you know a continue continuation of some of the lagging employment metrics which is where as I say central banks are operating and focused on it just means more cowbell right So they basically stop hiking rates, eventually cut rates, and some form of, let's say, also QE, which I'm going to come on to now. So the next thing we need to talk about is liquidity. Now, as you will remember, I mean, we've been writing about a rise in liquidity essentially all year.

46:07And we talked about it in our September GMI monthly of last year saying the turn was near. And we were looking at a lot of our lead indicators suggesting that the liquidity cycle would turn higher. And our lead indicators are still suggesting that we turn higher. So this is kind of a viewpoint of our current thinking that we're still in the lower ranges of a liquidity cycle bottoming and that we will accelerate into 2024. And this is what's happening. If you look at G5 numbers, so the Fed, the PBOC, the BOJ, the ECB, the Bank of England, looking at the actual change year on year, we've done nothing but rise.

46:46So this peaked in March of 2021, which was a couple of months before the ISM or the global PMI. And it bottomed in October. And our lead indicators were pointing higher. And here we are. The year on year comp is rising. And again, like I said before, this is where equities tend to operate and price off of is the year-on-year rate of change. And so we're very close to turning positive. And if you look at here is our weekly global liquidity index versus the ISM, which is here inverted in advance 15 months. And the mechanism at play here is basically that the business cycle, as the business cycle slows, central banks tend to come in with a lag as a ballast to offset the economic weakness.

47:34So they come in and they stimulate. And we're also entering this, for those of you who have read the everything code, which is available at the pro macro tier, you'll see that we're at this Q4 period, whereby what we're calling is the banana zone, if the everything code is thesis's hypothesis is correct, whereby the Fed will start to need to monetize prior business cycle debts by essentially throwing it on the balance sheet. um again go read the everything code if you haven't because um if this is right it really is the banana zone and not the banana zone like there's a peel on the floor you're going to slip on the banana like this is totally bonkers the ballot sheet's going to go from you know 8 trillion to 15 trillion by 2026 the last thing that we need to cover is sentiment okay so again look starting with that seasonality chart what kind of needs to happen and i said we need to catch bears offsides.

48:27Look at this. I mean, this is looking at the S &P 500 and the percentage of stocks trading with a 14-day RSI below 30. We're back to oversold. In fact, over 30 % of the S &P 500 stocks were trading with a 14-day RSI below 30. Last week, we've since come lower, but right at trend support. We've, again, been showing this chart for quite a while. We broke out in early Jan. we retested kind of um you know the breakout area and then we pushed sharply higher and we've since come back to that trend in that 200 day moving average and this is really the level that we you know need to keep an eye on um uh to make sure that the trend is in place but again sentiment is very oversold and it's exactly the same thing when you look at the percentage stocks trading um above the 50 day moving average we're currently at 70 17 before that we were at the lowest since October.

49:23And, you know, we flagged this chart back in late July when we rose above the 80 % sentiment was a little bit extreme. And the equity market had also discounted around an 800 billion. 800? Yeah. I think that's right. Let me just check on how to find that liquidity number in here. But, you know, a significant rise in liquidity. So it had essentially gotten ahead of itself. And And this is very normal early on in the cycle. We saw something very similar in 2018, 2019. Equities to prices start to rise in anticipation of liquidity rising. And then they need to come back to essentially domestic liquidity implied fair value.

50:04So at the time that we saw this big divergence, stocks were also overbought. And that dynamic has essentially completely unwound and we're back to oversold. On top of that, when you look at the put-call ratio, we're back above two and a half standard deviations. So sentiment is extremely bearish here. And the last chart I'm going to leave you with to think about is the seasonal composite that I showed you before, which is on the left-hand side. And then the historical average seasonality for the S &P 500 in election years. And so this is just to get you thinking. Election years tend to be very positive years for the equity market, you know, due to some combination of fiscal and monetary stimulus.

50:55You know, it's not a straight line up, but overall, you know, tend to be really good years. So again, just starting with the seasonality chart and working through what kind of what we think needs to happen in order for this melt-up to be true, growth momentum needs to continue to improve. We see that within our ISM lead indicators. um core inflation needs to continue to come lower in order to give you know the fed some assurance around um uh around rates um we need to see the unemployment rate take higher currently we're at 3.8 percent we're 40 basis points off the low we need to get to around 50 basis points off the low in order to see the fed um you know blink um you know the credit event that people are talking about we think was largely priced in already last year.

51:45And then liquidity needs to continue to rise. And as I say, based on our forward-looking indicators, we very much anticipate that. And then the last thing, as I said, catching the bears off guard. The sentiment metrics are all basically oversold. So that's kind of the current, you know, that's our current line of thinking. There's a lot more, obviously, to this. But I mean, I think we've covered quite a bit in the hour or so that we've sat together. And look, I hope it's been helpful for you and your overall investment thinking into Q4, you know, just some of our thoughts. And until I see you all next time, take care.

52:25Good luck.

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