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Rich Habits Podcast: Episode Summary
Episode Title
Q&A: Our Favorite AI Stocks, Inheriting $850K, & Improving Credit Scores
Overview In this episode of the Rich Habits Podcast, hosts Robert Croak and Austin Hankwitz engage with listeners by answering various financial questions. The episode emphasizes the importance of adapting financial habits and literacy to achieve financial independence.
Hosts
- Robert Croak: A decamillionaire with over 30 years of business experience and $200M+ in company exits.
- Austin Hankwitz: A young entrepreneur in his 20s eager to learn and grow financially.
Key Themes
- Financial Literacy: The hosts provide insights into financial habits that can lead to wealth-building.
- Diverse Audience Engagement: Questions come from a wide range of listeners, revealing the variety of financial situations and queries faced by individuals of different ages and backgrounds.
- Practical Advice: The hosts draw from their personal experiences and financial knowledge to provide actionable advice.
Episode Highlights
Q&A Format
- The hosts emphasize the value of listener engagement through questions, which helps create a community around financial learning.
- They encourage listeners to reach out with their queries via email or social media.
Questions Addressed
- Debra S. - Inheriting Property
- Situation: Inherited childhood home valued at $550,000; considering whether to sell or keep it as a rental property.
- Advice:
- Robert suggests evaluating if keeping the property would lead to financial strain, especially regarding retirement funds.
- Austin highlights the emotional aspects of keeping the family home, suggesting selling could allow for new memories to be made elsewhere.
- Joseph M. - Financial Goals and Investments
- Situation: Retired military with $2,200 left over monthly after expenses; wants to buy a hunting property, truck, and RV.
- Advice:
- The hosts suggest prioritizing retirement savings before making large purchases.
- Austin recommends looking for properties with friends to reduce costs and considering the total cost of ownership.
- Vonna A. - Building Credit
- Situation: 23 years old with a solid income, questions whether to get a secured or unsecured credit card for credit building.
- Advice:
- Robert advises getting a secured card and focusing on both building credit and investing.
- Austin shares his own experience with a secured card, emphasizing responsible use and payment to build credit.
- Amanda S. - Managing Proceeds from Home Sale
- Situation: Receives $44,000 from a house sale and has $3,500 monthly excess to invest.
- Advice:
- Robert and Austin recommend maxing out Roth IRAs first before considering paying student loans or investing elsewhere.
- They emphasize the significance of investing early for long-term wealth accumulation.
- AJJ - AI Stocks and ETFs
- Question: Seeking recommendations for AI stocks or ETFs amidst concerns over a potential AI bubble.
- Advice:
- Austin mentions Amazon as a strong buy for long-term gains, emphasizing its potential growth.
- Robert lists several other companies and sectors, including AIQ and energy plays, as viable investment options.
Calls to Action
- Rich Habits Network: Encouragement to join the community for deeper financial engagement, including investing alongside the hosts.
- Financial Tools and Resources: Listeners are prompted to explore various financial resources and templates mentioned in the episode.
Conclusion The episode wraps up with a reminder of the importance of community in financial literacy and the value of asking questions. The hosts express gratitude for their growing audience and encourage continued engagement through reviews and social sharing.
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Key Takeaways
- Diversity in Financial Situations: Understanding that financial decisions can vary widely based on personal circumstances.
- Importance of Emotional Factors: Recognizing the emotional connections to properties and financial decisions.
- Proactive Financial Planning: Emphasizing the need to prioritize retirement savings and long-term investments over immediate purchases.
Resources
- [Rich Habits Network](https://www.skool.com/richhabitsnetwork/about)
- Financial Planning Workbook and Budgeting Templates available through links shared in the episode.
This episode showcases the importance of community involvement in financial literacy and the necessity of adapting personal finance strategies to individual circumstances.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODebra's Dilemma: Inheriting a Family Home
3:02 to 5:36
Debra seeks advice on whether to sell or keep her inherited family home.
“So our first question comes from Debra S.”
Advice on Family Home Decisions
5:37 to 7:30
Robert and Austin share their thoughts on Debra's situation regarding her family home.
“You guys have been going there forever and all of that.”
Navigating Family Home Sentiments
7:42 to 10:29
The hosts discuss the emotional complexities of dealing with inherited properties.
“I'm just really sorry to hear about your father's passing.”
Joseph's Goals: Hunting Property and Financial Planning
10:30 to 13:14
Joseph asks for advice on how to achieve his goals of buying property and an RV.
“My name is Joe and I'm from South Texas.”
Prioritizing Financial Security
13:18 to 14:00
The hosts advise Joseph on prioritizing financial security before pursuing his dreams.
“They might have something similar like that in the military just already.”
Investing Wisely: Balancing Fun and Future
14:00 to 17:45
Learn how to balance asset purchases with investment priorities.
“after the fund money, after some other things you had mentioned here.”
Understanding Hunting Property Costs
17:46 to 19:48
Gain insights on the hidden costs of owning hunting properties.
“No, I think it helps a lot because Joe, whenever you're sort of weighing your options here with the hunting property, you have to understand the totality of ownership.”
Building Credit Responsibly at 23
20:51 to 26:14
Find out how to build credit while focusing on wealth creation.
“I'm writing this after listening to episode 143.”
Navigating Post-Sale Finances Wisely
26:15 to 28:03
Learn how to allocate funds wisely after a significant financial event.
“I'm a longtime listener to the podcast and would love to get your take on my situation.”
Maximizing Roth IRAs and Investment Strategies
28:03 to 30:06
Learn strategies for maximizing retirement accounts and smart investing.
“So that's where I would start first and foremost.”
Show all 12 chapters
Managing Student Loans and Emergency Funds
30:06 to 32:49
Discover effective ways to handle student loans and emergency funds while investing.
“I would definitely max out the Roth IRA, right?”
Recommended AI Stocks and ETFs
32:49 to 35:38
Explore recommended AI stocks and ETFs amidst the current market landscape.
“I've been a listener of your podcast for a year now.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Hey, everyone, and welcome back to the Rich Habits Podcast. question and answer edition brought to you by public.com. These are our Thursday episodes, Robert, that we sit down and we answer your questions. That's what we do. We answer your questions as if we were in your shoes. If you have a question to ask us, you can ask us via email at richhabitspodcast at gmail.com. You can DM us on Instagram at richhabitspodcast or you can join the Rich Habits Network and join us on a Tuesday night, two hour long live stream and get your questions answered face-to-face with Robert and myself. But these Thursday episodes, we try and come at you guys with some really fun questions.
0:40You guys have a ton of questions all the time. And to be honest with you, Robert, these episodes are becoming my favorite. Yeah, definitely. These episodes have come a long way and it's just really cool to see so many people getting involved and getting entrenched in our ecosystem, whether it's the newsletter, the Rich Habits Network, or just watching the podcast and getting these questions out to us is so important for everyone because we all have blind spots, personal finances, personal. In these episodes, we just really try to do our best to answer all these crazy random questions to help each and every one of you through your financial journey.
1:17And whether it's mindset or you're trying to figure out a side hustle, whatever it is, we're here for it and we appreciate all the questions. Well, my favorite part about these episodes, Robert, is it really shows the diversity of our listenership, right? Our audience base. We've got questions from people that are 23 and questions from people that are in their late 60s. Like it's so cool to be able to answer questions across all these different backgrounds and, you know, age demographics and everything like that. So let's get ready for it. But before we jump into the episode, got to give a shout out to public.com, the title sponsor of all of our Thursday episodes.
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3:10I accidentally found your show on my way to work, and I'm currently playing catch up by listening to two to three episodes a day. Oh my gosh. Thanks, Debra. Debra says, as a high school advanced personal finance teacher, I have shared many insights from your show with my students, and we've even watched snippets of your YouTube podcast in class. What's up, Debra's class? If you're watching this episode, that's so cool. Listen to her. Debra's a smart woman. Debra says, I am riding to seek your perspective on a significant decision my brother and I are facing regarding our late father's home. Last October, we inherited our childhood home in a medium income neighborhood.
3:46The house is approximately 2 ,100 square feet with an in-ground pool and is located just half a mile from the beach. It's currently valued at$550 ,000. While I could use some cosmetic updates, it requires no major repairs. We're torn between selling the property or keeping it as a short-term rental. As a realtor myself, I'm leaning toward keeping it as a revenue stream and a family gathering place. However, there are several factors to consider. The first one is financial impact. I have considered buying out my brother's share, but I'm hesitant to tie up my retirement funds as I plan to retire within the next two years.
4:21My brother is not in a position to buy my share. The next is our current housing situation. My husband and I currently live three and a half hours away in our dream home that we custom built three years ago. It carries a$4 ,000 monthly mortgage. Moving to this property is an option, but it would mean leaving the home we just settled into. The next is our family sentiment. Our children and grandchildren view this home as their home base, making the emotional attachment quite strong. And finally, the holding costs. The monthly cost to maintain the house, insurance, utilities, lawn service, and pool cleaning is$2 ,000 a month.
4:57And my sister-in-law is currently living there to keep the property secure until we settle the estate. I'm 64. My husband is 70 and he's already retired. My father left my brother and I$150 ,000 each, which we have invested into annuities. I also have an IRA with$62 ,000, a 401k with$44 ,000. My husband has an IRA with$80 ,000. We have approximately$15 ,000 in checking,$20 ,000 in a high-yield money market account, and a total net worth of$1.5 million, and we do not have any other loans or outstanding credit card payments. Given your expertise, I would love to hear your thoughts on whether settling or converting the home into a rental property makes more sense in this market.
5:34Robert, I will let you kick this one off. Yeah, this is a toughie because I get the sentiment part. You want to have that family home. You've got all the memories. You guys have been going there forever and all of that. But here's the problem that I have. I don't understand where the 1.5 total net worth is coming from based on the numbers provided. But let's skip over that for now and dig into the home. I think it's a tough situation because on one side, I'd love to see you buy out your brother, get him flush. You own the property. You can do your renovation right off into the sunset and you have this beautiful home for the family.
6:10But the other side of this tells me you don't have enough in retirement to be able to tie up that much capital in this home to be able to keep the family heritage. I kind of went through this myself a few years back. I had a home that I thought I would never, ever give up. But then I realized that the carry cost and the expense was greater than the joy that I would get from the home because I didn't use it that often. And I feel like that's what would happen here with you. So in my opinion, I think you have two options. you buy your brother out maybe you can work it out where it's a smaller monthly payment over time and then if you ever sell the home he gets a bigger cash out or you just sell the home you you both take your money you do your thing you already have your dream home and you host all of the events at the dream home that you just built because it sounds like to me you're basing this decision on sentiment more than financial prowess and understanding what's best for you long term And what I don't want to see happen is you keep this home, you buy your brother out, you've exhausted a lot of your retirement funds, and then it becomes a drain for you.
7:15Because let's be honest, how many times a year are you actually going to enjoy the home like you once did when your parents were there? So that's my take on it. I would probably sell the home, move on, because you can build new memories in the dream house you already have. Yeah. And I want to caveat all that with I could only imagine how hard it might be right now to weigh this option of keeping the home and not keeping the home. My dad died in July. So again, I'm sorry. I'm just really sorry to hear about your father's passing. And I still have my late father's home. And I'm going through the same situation where I can keep it as a rental property if I wanted to.
7:56The mortgage is very cheap. I got it at a 3 % interest rate. I mean, it's a very low cost thing to keep around. But for me, I think it's more of a closing the chapter of my life and not having to deal with tenants ruining a place that I see is sacred because my dad used to live there. It's a very emotional thing. So only you know the answer to this, Debra. But my advice to you is a lot of what Robert said. You have a dream home. Invite people to the dream home. You're three and a half hours from this home base. If your family doesn't want to drive three and a half hours to be in your dream home, that says more about them than it does about you.
8:34Also, we're talking about short-term rental. So you're going to put your family's home base on Airbnb or VRBO or one of these different short-term rental websites to have literal probably dozens if not hundreds of strangers come in and out and disrespect it on an annualized basis. All that just doesn't sound fun to me. I would rather say, listen, I'm going to honor my dad by making this home and fixing it up and doing what I can to ensure that I'm getting top dollar for it. And then I'm going to honor him by selling it to hopefully a new budding family that is going to, maybe they just had a child or maybe they've got a couple of kids and they're looking to finally expand their family.
9:12And you feel good about who is now taking over this house and living where your late father used to live. I would sell the house. I would allow someone else to live there, build their own family inside of it, have that be someone else's home base in their life and just honor your father that way. This also allows you to not have to tap into retirement. This allows you to stay in your dream home three and a half hours away. You don't have to be a long distance landlord. This allows you to close this chapter of your life in a respectful manner. And it's something I'm working on doing myself. Yeah, that's my advice.
9:44Yeah, I think that's a great takeaway because the grieving process, I think, sometimes prevents people from selling these assets. I went through it when my mother passed. I renovated her house. Then I turned it into a rental for two years. It was a mistake on my part because she too was right on the water, all of these things. And I wasn't ready to let it go. But then after the tenant kind of disrespected it, like you alluded to Austin, I was like, you know what? I'm going to clean it up. I'm going to sell it and let another family make their own memories in it. And that worked out really well.
10:15So love your takeaway, Austin. And I think I agree 100%. Debra, we're rooting for you. We are heartbroken to hear about your father's passing, but we hope that Robert and I's advice is helpful as you navigate a very difficult time in your life. So our next question comes from Joseph M. Oh, this is a good one, Robert. Joseph says, good morning, fellas. My name is Joe and I'm from South Texas. I've got a question for your Q &A episodes. I'm 42. I've retired from military service. Thank you for your service, Joe. And after taxes, I make$7 ,000 a month. I have$14 ,000 and a high yield savings account, which equates to three months of emergency fund.
10:51I've got two loans, one for my mortgage at$2 ,000 a month, and one for solar panels at$700 a month. Both of these loans are under 3 % interest. Wow, that's awesome, Joe. Joe says, my wife works and her money is used for groceries and birthday and Christmas and stuff for the kids. Each kid has a nearly fully funded college fund. And after all the bills are paid and fund money is allocated for, we still have$2 ,200 a month leftover. I do not need to buy these things, but I want to buy these things in the next few years. And so my question is, what is the best way to buy a hunting property, a used pickup truck, and an RV that we can travel in?
11:31Thank you so much, Joe. Robert, what a cool place to be in, right? Retired from the military, put in his years, and now Joe just wants to go hunt in his truck and hang out in his travel RV. I love it. The American dream right here, Robert. So what's your advice for Joe? Yeah, Joe's not going to like this advice because here's the problem. If Joe were a single man, 42 years old, out there ready to rock and roll with the hunting property and the truck and the RV and all of that, that'd be great. But Joe's got to remember a few things. He's got kids to take care of. So there's that legacy. He has the wife to take care of.
12:10And it's just one of those things. I think Joe needs to hold that dream a little bit longer, maybe five, six, seven, eight years and get more money saved for retirement to really set himself up to where God forbid, if something were to happen to Joe, the kids in the family are going to be okay. That's my take because right now, yes, it's a dream. He's ready to rock and roll. He wants to go hunting on the weekends, have this hunting property. All of that is great. But the problem is I don't think Joe has enough reserves in retirement and set aside for the future if something goes awry to be able to do that just yet.
12:47I'd maybe start looking for the property because you could get ahead of it because properties do appreciate. So we could start looking there. Then maybe two, three years down the road, okay, I've got the property secured. Now I'm going to get the truck and so on and so on. But I wouldn't only be saving and working towards that goal without at least having one and a half to two million dollars set aside and growing for retirement already. So that's my take. Joe is definitely not going to like that answer. Don't worry, Joe. I'll cut you some slack. So first thing I'm going to do for you, Joe, is I'm going to encourage you to get a term life insurance policy.
13:22They might have something similar like that in the military just already. I genuinely don't know. But go to the link in the show notes, shurience.com slash rich habits. That's how I got my term life insurance policy. I've got a$2 million policy through Prudential. But Shurience is going to go shop you all the different types of term life insurance policies, and they're going to get you a good rate. For me, I mean, it's literally like$30 a month,$40 a month. It's very cheap. And Joe, it's going to allow you to what Robert said. If anything does happen to you, go get a million dollar policy for$40 a month.
13:54and like if anything happens, like your income is gonna get replaced, you're gonna be just fine. So do that first. You mentioned you've got 2200 bucks a month left over after the fund money, after some other things you had mentioned here. My question is, is that 2200 dollars left over after you max out the Roth IRA for you and your wife and after you guys are investing, let's call it 15 to 20 % of your take-home pay every month? Because if you guys are genuinely investing 20 % of your take-home pay every single month by maxing out the Roth IRAs. It goes to the public taxable bridge account. Maybe you've got some other cool stuff with your wife and how she's working.
14:33Maybe she's got some 401k stuff there. Who knows? But if you guys are genuinely investing 20%, 15, 20 % of your take-home pay every single month, and you've got$2 ,200 left over, I would be like, okay, cool. I'm going to set aside maybe $1 ,000 a month or$1 ,500 a month for the next 12 months to go buy a used pickup truck that's$18 ,000, $20 ,000. Boom. Now you got to use pickup truck RV. I mean, here's, here's the thing. The mistake you don't want to make Joe is by having too much of your net worth tied up in things that go down in value, right? Use pickup trucks go down in value. RVs go down in value hunting property that should go up in value, but I'm specifically talking about the RV and the pickup truck.
15:15If you're over here telling me that you want to go buy a$40 ,000, 20, 23 GMC Sierra pickup truck, like that's a lot of money for you, Joe, talking about, you know, seven ish thousand dollars a month here. Or, hey, I want to go buy a$80 ,000 RV that the family and I can go take cross country. Maybe you should rent it, Joe. Maybe you shouldn't put all that money in an RV that's going to lose 20 % in value in the first three years. So that's kind of like the framework I would use is if 20 % is already getting invested, like, yeah, go pay cash for a cool pickup truck, go pay cash for an RV. But just make sure that you have a fraction of your investment account, a fraction of your net worth in the used pickup truck, in the RV, compared to your total net worth, because you want more things to be invested into things that go up in value than things that go down, right?
16:05So you want more money there than things that go down in value. Now, when it comes to the hunting property, Robert, what's your take on like, do you have any tips and tricks as it relates to buying land? Yeah, that's a great question. And I don't know that I do. You know, I always look at land when people are selling courses or trying to charge people all this money to teach them how to buy land. If no one has bought the land prior or it's been sitting forever and ever and never been developed, that can be a good thing if you can buy it right. But it can also be a bad thing because it generally means there's not a lot of capital appreciation.
16:38And a lot of times when people are thinking about buying this hunting property, they're going to put a cabin on there. They're going to be able to use it when they want to go hunting. They're going to put a couple deer stands in, all of that. but they forget the fact that they have to insure the property now that people are going to be on it. They have to pay property taxes on the property. So that's another expense. So I don't really have any hacks. I just want people to understand we are here to help you create and build your dreams. So I don't want Joe to think I'm coming at him, but I also want to make sure Joe doesn't at, he's 42 now, at 62 go, oh no, we ran out of money.
17:15We have this cool hunting property and all this stuff, but we don't have enough money for the kids and down the road. And, you know, because people are going to live longer, Austin. We talk about this all the time with modern medicine and technology. People are going to live longer, and I want people to better prepare for the future of living longer, but also have fun along the way. So I don't really have a hack. I don't know if that helped much, but I'm trying to just get Joe in the right mindset to live the dreams, but prepare for the future, I guess, is my take. No, I think it helps a lot because Joe, whenever you're sort of weighing your options here with the hunting property, you have to understand the totality of ownership.
17:53right i think that was robert's takeaway which is like it's not just about financing this this hunting property and being able to enjoy it but it's also the extra thirty nine hundred dollars a year of expenses that you weren't accounting for or i don't know nine thousand you like whatever it turns into i genuinely don't know i would treat this hunting property as the same like we actually had a question i think it was recently maybe it's on monday's episode but someone had a question about like how do i think about a vacation or a second home right how do i think about one of those like vacation properties, a beachfront condo, whatever.
18:26And Robert and I's answer to that was, if you can afford the monthly mortgage payment while also simultaneously investing 15 to 20 % of your take home pay, then like, go get it. You're rich. Congrats. Right? So Joe, it's the same thing for you. If you can afford to finance a hunting property, while it not negatively impacting your retirement investing over the long term, because you're still investing 15 to 20 percent of your take-home pay, congrats. You're rich. You saved enough money for a big down payment or you got your income up or your wife is just doing like whatever. That's the framework I would use is I would make sure that I could do it not at the expense of my retirement investing.
19:07I want to click back one more time for Joe and anyone else thinking about something like this. You could also consider going in on a property with two other couples. I'm sure you have hunting buddies. Maybe you go to them. Maybe the property's$80 ,000 for 15 acres and some woods. on a creek somewhere. That sounds amazing. Maybe you go in on the property and then you split up the total fees and the total cost of building out the property and the infrastructure you need. That's another option you can do. Obviously, have a lawyer with a good contract of states of who owns what and how it works, but you can almost timeshare it.
19:42So where it lowers your overall cost down to have the property while still enjoying it with friends. So that's another another option that I would look at. That's great. I didn't even think about that. There we go. Now, before we jump to our next question, quick reminder, generated assets, really cool new product feature on public.com. You can type in, just like go to chat GPT or Gemini or Grok or whatever, type in, I want to invest in companies that had Super Bowl commercials in 2026. Boom. It would go and find all the companies that ran Super Bowl commercials this year, and it would put money into a portfolio that you can invest in them.
20:19That's how cool it is, how easily it works. Any idea you have, you can type it in. It'll figure out how to invest in that and you're off to the races. So please go to public.com slash rich habits, transfer your portfolio over, get that uncapped 1 % bonus. But while you're in there, go create a generated asset strategy where you can use AI to build an investing strategy that is completely customizable and is entirely based on your thesis, not someone else's. Public.com slash rich habits or use the link in the show notes below. Our next question comes from Vonna A. Vonna says, good afternoon, gentlemen.
20:55I'm writing this after listening to episode 143. I make about$54 ,000 a year in upstate New York at 23 years old. I started this year by saving 15 % of my income along with any additional leftover income because I have a goal of saving$20 ,000. I'm a little late to the wealth building game, but I'm ready to go all in. Vonna, you are not late. You are 23. You are very early, actually. Vonna says, I've already read and finished a couple books that have helped me overcome certain bad money mindsets and habits. I don't have any recurring payments besides rent and student loan payments and groceries, of course.
21:31So here's my question. I have a decent credit score, but it was hit because of my first student loan payments. I've got about$10 ,000 of student loans. I don't have any credit builders besides a mattress payment that's almost fully paid off because I've been working on that for a while now. Would it be worth getting a secured credit card to build my credit or should I get an unsecured credit card? How do I go about building credit in a responsible manner or should I just focus on building wealth and investing instead? Robert, you want to kick this one off? Yes, I love this question. And I think you should do both because we want to make sure you're always investing, especially because you don't have a lot of outstanding consumer debt.
22:08For those of you that have credit card debt, you can't out invest high interest debt. So don't try to invest alongside paying 25, 32 % on credit cards, pay them off first. But in this instance, I would go get the secured credit card, go take them 500 or$1 ,000, get the secured credit card. That way you're up and running and you can use that credit card for some smaller things and pay it off every month to build the credit score back up. but I would also keep investing so you're building towards your future. And I wanna really click back on this, you feel behind at 23 years old. You are so ahead of the curve, it's incredible.
22:48We talk to people every day that are 30, 35, 40, 45 years old that aren't even where you're at because you've got your mindset already trained like an investor and not a consumer at 23 years old. And that is the biggest hurdle most people have to go through. So if you're out there listening to this episode or watching this episode right now, and you're 21 to 35 years old, please follow this because you have to start setting aside the money and building your portfolios early so you can let compound interest work its magic over time. I think that's a great synopsis. Yeah, you're doing a great job at 23 years old.
23:27The first credit card I ever got was a secured credit card. All my friends, when they were 18, 19, 20, 21 in college, they all went and got like the Amazon student card. They got the Discover It 5 % cash back card. And I applied for all of them, just like everyone else, but I was always denied for some reason. And it made me so upset because all my friends had credit cards and I didn't. And I felt like I was left out of the cool club. So I had to go to my local Bank of Tennessee branch in Knoxville, Tennessee at the time. And I walked in, I said, hey, can I please have a secured credit card? It's just so we're on the same page.
24:01What that means is you are securing the credit card by giving them cash and then you're borrowing against that cash. So they said, sure, give us$300 Austin in cash and then we will let you have a$300 limit on this credit card. So what I did is I gave them$300 cash, they opened it up, and I put one tank of gas on it every single month, and then I paid it off every single month. And I did that for about 18 months. After that period of time, I had a credit score somewhere in maybe the mid to high 600s, maybe low 700s. I genuinely don't remember. But it was enough where I can go to Discover and I got that 5 % cashback card.
24:40And then I still have that Discover card today. And then I kept doing the Discover, just a tank of gas, a Netflix subscription here, like whatever. You all have to know that there's like a specific sort of, and we have a whole episode on this. So please go find the episode in our catalog. It's slipping my brain at the moment. But what we do in the episode is we break down for you the difference between the balance due date, the statement date, the, you know, when the cycle ends. There's a lot of kind of confusing jargon as it relates to credit cards. Go listen to that episode. But long story short, what you have to do here, Vonna A, is just make sure that when you have the secured credit card, you put something very small, less than 10 % of total utilization on the card, call it a Netflix subscription of$27 a month.
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25:22let the cycle end, let that$27 borrowing get posted to the credit bureaus and then pay it off before the due date. By doing that, you're showing the credit bureaus that you can borrow money during the cycle. The credit bureaus now know because it was posted to them that you borrowed this money and then you paid it off before it was due. Do that for two years and I'll be very surprised if your credit doesn't grow by 50 points, 100 points, 150 points, like whatever. But that's my playbook for you to grow credit at a young age. I think it's exactly what I did. Love it, love it, love it. Yeah, I think we both had the Discover It card.
25:58I know I had it a long, long time ago, but I had to go the route early on as well of the guaranteed credit card. And it was a godsend in helping me build credit early on. So don't sleep on that strategy. So our next question comes from Amanda S. Amanda says, good morning, Austin and Robert. I'm a longtime listener to the podcast and would love to get your take on my situation. My husband and I are 27 and we're about to receive$44 ,000 in proceeds from a house sale and will now have$3 ,500 excess per month to put into savings and investments. We are both state employees with true pension plans and have a combined$160 ,000 in pre-tax income and$75 ,000 between current and prior employer retirement accounts.
26:42We paid off the last of our high interest debt recently, which means the debt we have now is our mortgage with the VA at 5.6%, a$10 ,000 loan at 0 % interest from my father-in-law, and$13 ,000 of student loans with variable interest rates. From the proceeds of this home sale, we're planning to pay back my father-in-law, put$15 ,000 in our high-yield savings, so we have four months of an emergency fund, and then put the other$19 ,000 to work somehow, someway. We're looking for advice on where to put the remaining funds from our home sale and how to allocate that$19 ,000. I'm hesitant to pay off the student loans as there are oldest lines of credit and have such low interest rates here at only 3.5 % to 4.5 % depending on the loan.
27:29And the monthly payment at only 170 is very manageable. Four months of emergency funds is a comfortable number for us, though I do wonder if we should increase it to six months. Beyond that, we genuinely don't know what to do. How would you recommend allocating both the$19 ,000 from the home sale and this additional$3 ,500 a month that we're about to come into? Robert, you want to kick this one off? Yes, this one is quite complex, but I think we can break it down and give them some real insight. First and foremost, I agree. I would not pay off the student loans. You're in a really good position as far as the interest rates go.
28:03So I would look more towards getting those Roth IRAs maxed out for the year, first and foremost, to get that up and running because you want to make sure every year, especially at your age of 27 years old, that you're maxing out those Roth IRAs. So that's where I would start first and foremost. Then on top of that, I would really consider, because I think if I remember, your 401k is no match. So I would really consider building up the traditional brokerage account. That way you have autonomy and you can really do all the right things with that money. So that's where I would start to go with the$3 ,500 additional income you have per month to get that traditional brokerage account really moving in the right direction.
28:45But keep in mind, get the Roth done first. That's going to be the important long-term strategy towards retirement. But then I would really focus on the traditional brokerage account as well. and keep, in my opinion, keep the student loans, keep paying that small payment. Because with that interest rates, those blended rates being so low, you're going to make more money in the markets and getting these ETFs and index funds we talk about. Because we always say you want the positive arbitrage of your money going into your pocket, not elsewhere. And with those being low interest loans for your student loans, I would stick with investing and pay the minimums on those.
29:24I think that's great advice. Yes. And when it comes to the student loans, I'm just going to give the same advice I always give, which is pay them off when you have an equivalent amount of money invested elsewhere. Right. So don't just go pay off your student loans aggressively without already having the same amount or more invested in the markets. You've only got$13 ,000 of student loans. So like, yeah, if you want to keep them around, because it's only 170 bucks a month, not mad at that at all. If you want to pay it off, like, cool, you're going to have that much invested anyway, like you're going to be fine regardless.
29:54Like you paying off your student loans, you're keeping them around is not going to change your wealth building trajectory by any stretch of the imagination. If I were in your shoes, I would not increase the emergency fund. I think four months is fine. I would definitely max out the Roth IRA, right? I would just do what we were talking about before. Match beats Roth beats taxable. So if you get a match, rock and roll. If you don't get a match, skip to the Roth IRA. You can literally max out both your Roth IRA at 7 ,500 for 2026 and your husband's at 7 ,500 in about four and a half months worth of excess money here at$3 ,500 a month.
30:29So rock and roll on that. Super easy. And now you've got all this extra money. Now you've got 3 ,500 a month to play with. Yeah, I probably would start beefing up that taxable brokerage account. I would probably start really considering beefing up some of these retirement accounts like the 457B plan that you mentioned before, but I do it in that manner. Match beats Roth beats taxable. So if you don't get a match, max out that Roth. And then if you have autonomy, that's the thing that's so important here. If you have autonomy over your 457B retirement account, you're able to go in there and invest into the S &P 500, invest into the NASDAQ, invest into the Dow Jones or whatever index funds and ETFs tickle your fancy as it relates to the S &P and the NASDAQ American capitalism, then that's important.
31:11Yeah. I mean, tax advantage, we love that. So go in there and invest, get aggressive, get excited. You're so young. You've got literal four decades of investing ahead of you before you have to think about retirement. So I would do those things. But if you do not have autonomy and you're like, listen, they put us in these weird small cap funds or these weird bonds and they put us in a bunch of target date funds that have me allocated to some random stuff I've never heard of, then maybe to your point, it would be a better idea to really beef up your taxable brokerage account on public.com because you have autonomy over how that money is invested.
31:45You can get it invested into the S &P, the NASDAQ and things we just mentioned. That's what I would do. And then the last thing here, I didn't see anything about like, you mentioned you're getting 44 ,000 in proceeds from a house sale. Does that mean you guys are renting right now? And if you are, that's great. It's cheaper right now to rent in the United States than it is to own. And we love that. But if you are renting and you plan to own a home one day, maybe some of this, you know,$3 ,500 a month could be used for a down payment in the future, right? Maybe you set aside$1 ,200 or$1 ,500 a month from this, and you've got$18 ,000 a year now that's kind of snowballing on top of itself.
32:23Four or five years in the future, you've got$100 ,000 of a down payment. You guys are in your early 30s, and you're ready to go buy that by then probably$600 ,000 house or$700 ,000 house wherever you guys live there and, you know, kind of play that one by year. But those are just kind of where my head goes. Yeah, I think that's a great breakdown and, you know, a good addition to what I put out there. So I hope this helps because they're in a great spot and we want to see them thrive in the future. So our last question comes from AJJ, AJJ on Instagram. What's up, AJJ? AJ says, Hi, Austin and Robert.
32:57I've been a listener of your podcast for a year now. You guys are awesome. And I'm truly grateful for all you guys do. I've got one question. Which AI ETFs or stocks would you recommend to buy at this point so late stage and what a lot of people are calling an AI bubble? That's a really good question. Well, first off, AJ, if you are locked in on this type of stuff, tune into our Friday episodes. I know we've been kind of all over the place with the travel and we had an interview with Peter Tuckman and stuff, but we'll be back on those Friday episodes. So come back tomorrow for the Rich Habits Radar.
33:28We'll be talking about headlines and all things related to the markets and stuff or join the Rich Habits Network. We have these two hour weekly live streams where we do the deep dive market analysis every single week. And we've been talking about this stuff for, gosh, six, nine, 12 months now. I'm looking at my own portfolio right now, Robert. What would I be buying right now? Oh, no brainer. I'm buying Amazon. Actually, I just bought 100 shares of Amazon. It's about$20 ,000 worth after their earnings. I thought they just got brutally pulled down here at 200 bucks a share. I'm buying Amazon for what the company is going to be in 2030.
33:59Between the types of margin expansion they can get on their international econ business, the margin expansion they can get on their domestic econ business, the reacceleration of AWS, the 20 % growth of their advertising business. Like I have a deep understanding of this business. Plus, think about what's going on with Anthropics IPO, think about the remaining performance obligation that increased by 40%. Their backlog is nearly$300 billion. Now, Andy Jassy is saying that as soon as they build their AWS data centers, like they sell the capacity out immediately, they're investing$200 billion in data centers in 2026, which is why the stock went down.
34:39Investors are like, oh, give us that money. They're like, nah, psych, we're actually going to go use it to invest in data centers, which I think is a fine use of the money. So I think Amazon at these prices, could it go down? Sure. It's a speculative bet on a single stock. Who knows where it's going to go? But if you zoom out in five years from now and their operating cash flow is 300, 350, $50,$400 billion a year by 2030, and you slap a 18, 20, 22x multiple on that like they historically trade at from operating cash flow, we're talking about a$600,$700 per share Amazon that I bought at$200 a share.
35:16So long-term outlook, I like Amazon. That's my buy. That's my AI stock play for the next three, four, five years here, Robert. What about you? What is an AI ETF or stock that you're excited about this late stage in the sort of AI bubble? Yeah, I love the framework of the question. And I think Amazon is a big, big winner. So I'm going to go a little wider and I'm going to cover a little bit more here. But I still like at this stage, AIQ, I think is still a buy for me. I'm still adding every month to AIQ. There's a lot of coverage there. I still like URA for the uranium play because of where we're going with nuclear and small nuclear reactors.
35:57I'm still a buyer of Palantir and Micron. I think those are good long-term plays along with AMD, but also I have to put a little call out in there for Constellation Energy Group. I think that's a really good one. Cameco Corporation, which is CCJ, is also another energy player that I think long-term is a good one. Those are some of my favorites just because I think they cover a lot of ground moving forward. But also, Austin, I think you mentioned, and I really like it, last week on an episode, or maybe it was the live XLE. And I think that's another good play that you called out in that energy part of this question.
36:37So those would be my plays. Nothing new, nothing crazy, nothing fancy. I don't have any big call outs. I'm just adding money to the things that I believe in, like Austin does with Amazon for five, 10 years down the road. There we go. Everybody, thanks so much for tuning into this week's episode of the Rich Habits Podcast question and answer edition. We, Robert, I mean, literally, I'm going to plug the Rich Habits Network again. We have over 920 people now inside the Rich Habits Network. We started this community in August of 2024. And now 18 months later, we have nearly 1000 people that come and they hang out.
37:15They ask us questions in the DMs. We've got hundreds that are live with us on these Zoom calls every Tuesday night. They're saying, hey, what do you think about this? Or, hey, I just bought this or whatever's going on. And you get to invest alongside Robert and I into venture deals and real estate deals and pre-IPO. I mean, we offered SpaceX three separate times inside of the Rich Habits Network as low as a 200 something billion dollar valuation. Long story short, if you are someone who's ready to take their investing and their personal finances seriously in 2026, consider joining the Rich Habits Network.
37:48There's going to be a link in the show notes below or just Google Rich Habits Network. It's awesome. We really, really like it. Yeah, over 920 people are now inside of it. It's really humbling to see it grow so much. We can't wait until there's thousands more over the next several years. Like we're not going anywhere, Robert. We're playing this game and we're having some fun. And so everyone, thanks so much for joining us on this episode of the Rich Habits Podcast question and answer edition. If you learned something in this episode, please consider leaving us a five-star review, sharing the episode with a friend, voting in the poll below here on Spotify, or leaving us a comment on Spotify because we always get back to your comments.
38:23And of course, we will see you tomorrow in our new Friday episode, The Rich Habits Radar.
38:48We'll see you next time.
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