Roger Goodell & Pat McAfee Debate The Greatest NFL Comeback Ever

0:00This is the last play of the game. It was 10 seconds to go. They were down and the security came and said, we should go now. I said, I can't leave. And I would have missed the greatest play. I was nine years old and I remember being like, football is the sickest thing in the entire world. Took you that long to figure that out? Took you that long.

0:14Pat McAfee: The greatest prospect since John Elway. He had so much pressure on him to be great. He's following in Peyton Manning's shoes. I remember calling you and I said, are the bankers for real? He goes, they're real. He's real. This guy was walking into me. I was pumped. But he finally said, hey, hey, hold on a second here. Goodell's a commissioner. This is the owner. He's here. He's standing and taking your questions. Let's take it easy. Life has been good for me. Peyton Manning's the quarterback. I'm a punter. And I get summoned down to the training room by Peyton. And I walk in and I'm like, whoa, no.

0:41Pat McAfee: And I immediately think to myself, like, oh, I was not prepared to punt as much as we were. Peyton Tom, that rivalry. And it was 24-0. But he, in that room, I watched him. And I walked out. I'm like, god, that guy's f***ing good. 33 to nothing. Statistically, you'd have to say that's the greatest comeback. One of the most famous super agents. Hollywood super agent. Super agent Ari Emanuel. Famously the inspiration for the Ari Gold character in Entourage. Welcome to Rushmore. We are the civilians. The experts are here.

1:20Okay, so I want to ask you a question. You're doing the soccer thing. Then what all of a sudden turns you out to do football?

1:25Pat McAfee: punt pass and kick i win the punt pass and kick oh really what year really i was uh i think i was 14 in the 14 15 one pittsburgh steelers you just did you just my mom put me in it and had you ever done football uh at that point so i'm from pittsburgh so we played you got it you got it you're born with a football i played pickup football so she puts you in and and how did you do so in i'm from plumboro so uh east toes of pittsburgh we played football my whole life My dad diehard Pittsburgh Steelers fan. Everybody's a diehard Pittsburgh Steelers fan. But I was like the first person or one of the first people from my town that had a chance to make it in sports.

2:00Pat McAfee: So everybody was scared to death to get me out of soccer because soccer was going very well. Played overseas, did the whole thing. Had a lot of schools looking at me for soccer. What did you play? Striker and then also middle back. It depended on where I was. I kicked soccer by like 100 miles an hour. So I was pretty lethal. Too big and a little bit. Didn't run as much in the office. So that kind of got me a little bit. But punt, pass, and kick, my mom put me in there because – What game was it? So you do a local game. You never did that? No. So you do a regional one, okay, which is at like a small school.

2:33Pat McAfee: Then you do like if you're in like the top eight, I don't know. You probably don't know. You guys have changed rules on that thing, but it's still incredible. But if you're a top eight in like Pittsburgh from the regional ones, then you get to go to the game. I think my mom wanted to do it so that we could get to a game. What game? It was a Pittsburgh Steelers game. I don't remember the executive, but just getting to a game. You advance, you go to a game. No, but I mean, who were they playing? I don't remember that, but we got to go to a game. That was like the first time my dad, my brother, and I got to go to a game.

2:57Pat McAfee: It was awesome. So then I get there, and I just murder. I just murder. Were you nervous? No, no, no. So I was all-time quarterback in my town because I could throw a telephone pole to telephone pole. So I was the only person that could do that at the age of like 10. So we would play telephone pole to telephone. So your passing was your better of the three? I could spin it, yeah. I could really spin it, like even as a kid. So you should have been a quarterback instead of a runner. You would have still been in the league. Somebody should have. Somebody should have done that. A 6-1. Look how much money you were made.

3:23Pat McAfee: Oh, yeah. All right. So then what happened? OK. So then I do the Steelers one. I win that in a landslide. And then I get invited to the national championship one. The national championship one was a divisional round game, I think, is what it was. You went to the big one, the big show. You'll be able to pull this clip. We're going to pull it. So it ends up being a divisional round game. AFC divisional round game is where the punt, pass, and kick finals are. What year? Finals are. so I'm 14 what am I 39 now so 25 so it's 2001 2002 so it was AFC Vision when I get just so happy to be Steelers are playing against the Titans in Nashville they just not it just happened to be that way so I go down there and I murder I kill everybody like the thing about it is you it's a straight line and you you punt it and then for however far you're off the line they subtract it punt is always a problem i hit this punt it landed on the line so like the punt is normally like way over here so it's like a huge subtraction my punt hit the thing wow like fucking hit the thing so there was no it was like after the punt i basically won this thing you know and then i hocked it and cold scouts were there so i win so i win so then they announce the winners on the field.

4:38Pat McAfee: I get booed. Why? Because of Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh, yeah. So I'm out there. I'm a 15-year-old, and I'm getting booed. I get booed. They're like, from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And obviously, you know me. I'm still the same person. And Patrick McAfee from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Congratulations to all the winners and participants. Hello. I got a big one of those. Loving that moment. Yeah, it was the greatest. And then it just started happening. So then the next year, I kicked for our high school team. They came and asked me if I would do it. And yeah, I was kicking like 60, 65 yarders as like a 16-year-old.

5:17Pat McAfee: And then I went to a kicking camp my senior year down in Florida. I hit a 65 yarder. I missed this. When did that happen? When did you start doing that kick? PPK? Yeah. It's great. Oh, that goes back in the 60s. Andy Reid did it. Who instituted that? It was a Ford original. Was it Ford or something? who's a sponsor of that i did it in washington dc as a kid you did really definitely how were you do i i was i didn't get to the stadium you were a monster athlete too though right like you were you played basketball football basketball baseball yeah yeah um but it was a big thing have you ever seen andy reed oh yeah in full helmet that's hysterical oh yeah so they used to they used to make us do that yeah that was crazy i'm happy you guys you didn't they didn't do that anymore right Just Jersey.

6:03So then you go, and then we go to college, and then?

6:05Pat McAfee: Yeah, so then I win that camp. You went to WVU, man. He wants me to give them some money. Yes, you should adopt them, by the way. We will take your NIO. You too, by the way. Washington, Jefferson. Washington, Jefferson. That'd be good for us. Why don't you come down, bro? We used to go there all the time. Oh, I bet. That was a big weekend. Can I ask you a question? I think we're close. Completely outside of football. Why not politics, and why football? Because your father was in politics. He's the greatest speaker on earth, too, by the way. I tell you about this. Why not politics? Because your father was in politics.

6:36I think I'm sort of in politics. Yes, you are. But I'm talking about. No, I never had an interest in politics. No, really. Just always went into the. But you've got to do politics now still, but you don't have to. No, it's major politics. It's got a little bit of politics. A lot of politics, yeah. And it's changed because of going international and all the stuff you do.

6:55Pat McAfee: What was that committee you had to sit in front and the one person called you Goodle? Do you remember that? He was going to talk to some committee. I've probably been called Goodall a lot of times. Oh, in front of Congress? Yeah, I forget what it was. It was a couple years ago. I was super excited to watch you go cook these politicians because you had to go testify for something. Who knows? You probably had to do it a bunch. But it was the first time they came really public. And I was super excited. I've told you this before. I think you are a wizard with words, the way you're able to dance. I watched you before that lockout come into our team meeting.

7:22I remember that meeting myself. What meeting was that?

7:24Pat McAfee: At Indianapolis Colts. So he wanted to travel around and talk to all the players in his training camp and be like, hey, you're hearing it from me. like we don't want to do this this is probably going to happen though like the lockout's probably going to take place and the players he was lobbying uh kind of but he was just like you have to like i think i think he wanted to face i think he wanted to face the music a little bit i think i'm not sure so i was too young at the time when that was happening in the colts locker room like i certainly was a chatty person in the locker room my whole life that's a shocker yeah i feel like being a glue guy it's not like you're doing it here don't worry about it i feel like being a glue guy is a is a big deal if you're just a punter like hey you also got to bring good vibes too like you know so i felt like that was a big deal so then jeff saturday who obviously ends up being a massive piece of that entire thing huge jeff saturday he's like hey the commissioner's coming in here tomorrow have your questions ready okay he's coming in to answer all the questions about the lockout and all this type of stuff and i don't know what the other teams were like but ours it felt like it was like because we had a very veteran team i was a very young team that team has been around a long time these know like the ins and outs of it and the night before there There was like a war type feel.

8:27Pat McAfee: From the young guys to the old guys? No, like from the players, but him coming in. No, they were coming after me. Yeah, so it really felt like that. So this guy was walking into me. I was pumped. You know, I'm like, fuck yeah. This is going to be good entertainment. No, no, no. I'm not beating the commissioner. I'm about to watch. I'm like, sure. Sit there and watch the commissioner get grilled. Yes, exactly. I was like pumped. I'm like, I love those types of situations. I'm like, I like watching live speakers. I like watching live events. I certainly like. How many years in the league were you here?

8:53Pat McAfee: Second, I think it was. So then what happened? So he walks in there and there was not a round of applause or anything, you know, and he walks in and I'm like, yes. And I'm sitting next to Vinatieri. I'm sitting next to Vinatieri and Vinny's like, I can't wait to see what happens. Like what happens? Because Vinny - It's live, baby. Yeah, Vinny's very, obviously at that point, already a Hall of Famer. He knows the business in and out, but Vinny's not going to be the guy who's going to like, you know, so we were just like very excited for like what was about to happen. And I watched him handle so much heat.

9:23Pat McAfee: I mean, he was getting asked a lot of like, hey, my kids aren't going to have insurance. My wife is pregnant. He was getting like. Personal. These questions were like. Yeah, no, I was kidding. Even people that didn't have a pregnant wife were saying, my wife's pregnant. They were like doing that. So how did he settle it? The center. Jeff Saturday. No, so he actually spoke up in that eventually because it got so bad. He finally said, hey, hey, hold on a second here. Goodell's a commissioner. This is the owners. And he said, you'll get a chance to say, he's here. He's standing and taking your questions.

9:59Let's take it easy. And he pulled it back a little bit. He did, but watching him. How long did it take to settle? Do you remember? For every 100. You're talking about the CBA? Yeah. Oh, shit. We went until July. It was August. I don't want to say. It was a lockout.

10:16Pat McAfee: Yeah, it wasn't a strike. Yeah. Make that distinction. Yeah, thank you. OK, it was them. But the best story out of that was Saturday, who I admired because I thought he was a great leader. I still was one of the great leaders. He's smart. I went over to his house because we had a spring meeting in Indiana. And I went over to his house. What year were you the commissioner? How many years had you been commissioner at that point? Six. This was probably… You started in 2006, right? 11 was the lockout. So five years, four years. Wow. You're a young lad in there. Young lad. Been around. But Saturday came.

10:50We spent two hours in the basement, and he stood up, and he took leadership at that point.

10:55Pat McAfee: Wow. But he, in that room, I watched him, and I walked out. I'm like, God, that guy is fucking good. That's literally what I thought. No. He's the best. So then he watches Super Bowl press conferences, where he has his annual press conference. And it's like the writers, the super journalists, they - Oh, I'm glad he said that. Yeah. Well, believe me. I've had enough wars with them. but the uh i couldn't imagine you but yours is more so about a league me so uh about me so it's a little different animal but um at least you can separate church and state in your mind but he every annual press conference that comes you know they get them all these journalists gear up for this he's incredible at it and bro the way he can give an answer but also not lose any leverage or potentially blow anything up in the moment it's like i am very impressed with him as a speaker like very impressive and it all started in that team meeting when he had guys from dade county compton new york pennsylvania old white dudes young black dudes everybody just going at him and he had to like kind of defer diffuse and then deflect this with every team every locker room that year for the um yeah until eventually it got so bad the union started passing out questions and riling them all up.

12:11And eventually it became ridiculous. A show, yeah. So you probably get the questions too. No, they didn't want me to ask you.

12:17Pat McAfee: They should have now that we're back looking back. I would have got your fucking ass. All right. So here's what we're going to do. We're going to do Rushmore of greatest comebacks. I don't know if there's criteria that anybody wants to talk. NFL comebacks. NFL comebacks. I don't know if there's criteria. What I was asking, is it like game specific? Is it a player? Is it a season? No, tell them. It's whatever you think. Whatever you think. This is Rushmore. Well, I got a big imagination. So I can go anywhere with that? You can go anywhere you are. So we're going to start with Mr. Pat McAvoy. Okay, I'm going first?

12:46You're going first. Now, here's how we do it. You do your four. You do your four because you guys are the experts. Ben and I do - We get four shots. You get four shots. Any categories I want. NFL comebacks. NFL comebacks, okay? Ben does his four. I do my four. Hey. And then we do the - We have to come up with - I make the rules around here. He's the commissioner. This is WME, I think.

13:06Pat McAfee: This isn't your office. But on that note, most of the first season of the show is Ari yelling at people that there is no rules. You make rules on what the stipulations are. He's not wrong. You're not wrong. Yeah, I know. It's your show, isn't it? But now we're going to throw some rules. Hold on. I was wondering, like, where are you going with that? Like, what's the problem with it? Well, because he's saying I would like some guidelines. No, there's no guidelines. That's his yet. There's my guidelines at the end because I want to win. I don't know how you win. The race talks now. Okay. Okay, hit it.

13:37Pat McAfee: You're going to need a big-time comeback if I'm going first. Okay, so obviously, 28-3. I think we probably all have that. I would assume 28-3 is everybody's. I mean, that is the most absurd thing. It's the biggest part. So you're talking about Super Bowl. Falcons, Patriots, yeah. And on that note. I was in Bob's box. You left at halftime. No, I didn't. I'm the one that stayed. If you left at halftime, you're never coming back. I stayed with. There's a photo of him at the end. Just him and fucking Kraft. What are you talking about? I stayed with Michael Rubin and two other people. Everybody else left.

14:11Mark's kid was crying the whole time. And I said to Mark, you got to get him out of here, dude, because this is ridiculous. Wahlberg. The owner's here, bro. And then you had, I think it was, there was a musician in there. I think Kevin Hart was in there. Everybody bolted. Jon Bon Jovi probably is the musician. It might have been. No, there was a couple actors in there. It was like. I'm not naming them. I was sitting there, and then Jonathan at halftime says, we got a.15 chance of winning. I said, we're, and I tried to pump him up, and he was so, they were so depressed. Okay, come on.

14:42Pat McAfee: I love that you don't have any business with the Falcons, it turns out. Love that you're in there. Okay, that sounded like. Yes, it's true. That Edelman catch, like an inch from the. Oh, unbelievable. And then Tom Brady talking about it, with that photo of him on the bench, where he's like sitting like this, it's like. Yeah, that was the greatest. That's the one, right? That guy is the one. That's George Washington. Okay, so I think we all know that that's one. So basically this Rushmore is going to be three spots, I think, is what we're all doing. I think you're probably right. Okay, so. Really?

15:09I don't think so.

15:11Pat McAfee: 28-3 in the Super Bowl? You want to make a bet here? We only match on two. Okay, I would like to say this. I'll go to DraftKings and I'll end here. Okay, so if you don't have 28-3 in the NFL comebacks thing, people are going to say you don't know ball. I'm not saying that. Just keep on going and shut up. Okay, I'm just saying people are going to say. Just always prepare to fight. I'm just ready. Everybody's arguing with you. We're getting you your four. Lockout's done. Yeah, okay. But I'm ready for it. At this stage, I'm much differently prepared than I was then. Andrew Luck in the 2014 AFC wildcard.

15:43Pat McAfee: I happened to be there. We were down, I think, 31-10 at halftime. It was a big one. 31-10 at halftime. And Andrew Luck, obviously the greatest prospect since John Elway. He had so much pressure on him to be great all the time. He's following in Peyton Manning's shoes. and we get to a wild card game and we're down 31 10 at home everybody what year was that 2014 14 yeah everybody you know is basically excited to write about how ass andrew luck is you know like i i think that is what the atmosphere was and at halftime i remember andrew much like that tom in at 23 like there was no blinking and then you obviously have like reggie wayne in there and vinny terry's in there you got a lot of ogs in there and we they come out chief score So it's 38-10.

16:29Pat McAfee: Yeah, remember that? And then the comeback starts. That's usually the death knell. Boom. Then we get going. Fun fact about that, I called off two on-site kicks in that second half because we didn't have the look, and I kicked them deep, and I thought I was going to regret that for the rest of my life. I had checked into my own on-site kicks before. That time, we had two on-site kicks planned, and they had their hands team sitting right where we were going. You could have won the game with that decision. Thank you. You said it, not me. No, because seriously, if they scored again, it was probably over.

16:58Oh, it was definitely over. Yeah. Well, that's the same thing with the Super Bowl, right? All they had to do, if they scored one field goal. Why didn't they just run the ball? Run the ball, yeah. Shanahan's thinking about that still. They were at the 30-yard line that one time, right? Yeah.

17:09Pat McAfee: I mean, and Julio Jones makes the greatest catch on the sideline. Yeah, that was incredible. And it will never be talked about because it ends up being in the worst side of the entire thing. Football's the greatest. Okay, third. So I would say that one. Andrew Luck, if you do recall, gets a fumble, jumps over. I think it was Mike McGlynn at the time, pit offensive lineman, and he like jumps over and extends it. It becomes like the Andrew Luck moment. He ends up on Sports Illustrated. I was very lucky to be there. It was awesome. There was no reason we're supposed to be in that game, especially after you 38-10.

17:38Pat McAfee: So I got that 2014 AFC wildcard. I got 28-3. Then this one's going to be a good one. January 5th, 2002. 2002? Yes. Okay, January 5th, 2002. Pittsburgh Steelers hosting Cleveland Browns. Okay. It is a playoff game. For that season, they had been sprinkling it in. Cleveland Browns, hated by Pittsburgh. Grow up. Was it a wild card game? January 5th. I don't remember. What would it be? January 5th probably won. Wild card, probably wild card, yeah. Okay, so when you grow up in Pittsburgh, you hate Cleveland. This is the mistake by the lake. It is ass. You hate the Browns. Okay. When you grow up in Cleveland.

18:17Pat McAfee: You never heard that before? I never heard that. When you grow up in Cleveland, Schittsburg, you hate Pittsburgh. And that is just how it is. Two very similar towns who love football, who are taught from the day you pop out of the womb that you hate each other. So Pittsburgh Steelers, Cleveland Browns, playoffs. Who were the coaches? Do you remember? From 2002, that'd be Cowher. That's Cowher. Right? When did Thomas get in there? And who was that Cleveland? I don't know. Well, that's a great question. I mean, it could be. It could have been your boy from the Pats. Wasn't he? No, he was gone by then.

18:51He was gone by then? Yeah. He was at the Pats already. You were watching this game. You were like 16, 15 watching this game?

18:57Pat McAfee: 2002, yeah. He was already at the Pats? 17. 15, 16. Yeah, I think so. So that game, though, that season, they had started sprinkling Renegade in. They had started sprinkling Renegade in the fourth quarter. And the story came out that one of the stadium operators guys was listening to Renegade on the drive-in and was like, I think that's a good song, trying to find it. So they started sprinkling it in, but it hadn't caught in Pittsburgh. So in this wild card game, they were down 24-7 in the playoffs to the Cleveland Browns at home in Pittsburgh. They play, oh, mama, I'm in there. Oh, that's good.

19:30Pat McAfee: Oh, my life from the law. That's good. Law. Okay, they run some defensive highlights. They come back and win 36-33, renegade now every single home game. It becomes like one of the greatest traditions. It's their theme song. Yeah, so that becomes like the moment. That cements renegade for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and they beat the Browns in the playoffs. It's like, as a kid, we celebrated. I mean, we got after it. I was 15. I don't know how many, you know, but I got after it. It was a lot of bad fun. Okay, fourth. Okay, so my fourth one, and I think we all think this, and that's probably where you're headed, DeMar Hamlin, right?

20:06Pat McAfee: That has to be top four greatest NFL comeback. He was dead on the field. Okay. Okay, now, granted, he is a yinzer, and he's incredibly tough, so you're going to have to kill him twice, okay, is what's going to have to happen. But we all remember that Monday Night Football. I do, too. Oh, man. We all remember Joe and Troy. I was with him last night, literally. Unbelievable. He's the greatest kid. That was a very tough decision for you. That was a tough time, period. That was a tough time. Yeah, scary. That was terrifying. Very scary. But also, Buffalo Bills athletic trainers. And doctors. And doctors.

20:38Pat McAfee: But they had repped that. Like, they repped that. We talked about that. And they - Every team does. The Buffalo Bills medical staff. Saved them. Incredible. Incredible. The local ambulance there in Cincinnati. Bengals helped too because they have to – that's a stadium procedure. They have to prep that. Everything. Oh, yeah. Every team. So I know DeMar Hamlin because he's from Pittsburgh, and I'm a huge fan of his, and I think we all do. And we're watching that, and we're wondering what's going to happen to the league. We're wondering what's going to happen to football. Like I think I had a lot of – Everybody did.

21:10Pat McAfee: I had a lot of teammates that were like, man, I didn't know this was actually like possible in this entire thing. So it was devastating. I think it was very scary. Very scary and traumatic for everybody that was watching, but also the football, the NFL community, I think, like was very intrigued on like, what do we do here? So for him to come back and play, shout out to all the doctors, but shout out to DeMar Hamlin being like tough dude. Seven months later. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Seven months later. Okay. He played in an NFL game. But that goes to a greatest player comeback to me, which I think is a great category.

21:43That's a great category. We're going to do that next. Your four. My four. Okay, just on games? Just on games. Okay, so I got his argument about the Super Bowl.

21:53Pat McAfee: You guys choose to leave DeMar Hamlin off at the end. We'll see how that goes. It's going to be fine. It's number one on my list, baby. Number one on my list. Hey, just real quick. If they choose to leave DeMar Hamlin off greatest NFL comeback. Well, okay, but I'm not going to choose the Super Bowl and Patriots Atlanta. You know why? Because, listen, that's Tom Brady. maybe the greatest player ever. Okay. So I'm going to go with Houston Oilers versus the Buffalo Bills. And it was 1992. Yep. Kelly goes down. Yep. They're down 35-3 at halftime. Frank Wright comes in. What was the final score? 41-38 Buffalo Bills.

22:34OT. Yes. Wow. 37-3. And that was the AFC Wild Cup game. And Warren Moon had like four touchdowns that first half. I think like wasn't that it was OT and it was over to it was a wild card it was over it was wild card game OT and he um and he just brought that team back and I was there so it made a

22:52Pat McAfee: difference so I admit that's that's the one for me Frank Reich my quarterback coach yeah um he's one I was third string quarterback for the Colts Frank Reich was quarterback coach with Colts uh and head coach eventually yes I did take because Josh McDaniel flew the plane around turn to play around but thank we love frank i'm thankful frank was there but um he had the largest comeback in college history i think with maryland right yeah he did i think at the time i didn't know that he had this is a comeback kid yeah so some people might be on that list if we do the next one yeah all right keep on going uh well you got you got the super bowl i have to give that number two oh interesting you you actually think they're no i do they're not I got one.

23:36George Washington's one and Lincoln's two. They're not numbered. They're certainly numbered. Tom Brady, you expect that from Tom Brady. Frank Wright coming in off the bench and doing that? You don't expect that. You don't expect that. Okay. Stop. That's number. I never counted that.

23:52Pat McAfee: I never counted. It was a 1.5 % we just learned from Jonathan Kraft. Yeah, well, obviously, those odds didn't work so well. That's true. But Tom Brady, I never count out. Never. Smart. Smart. The other one I had was the Colts versus the Vikings in 2022. I think it is the largest comeback ever. 33-0. It was 33-0. And they came back and won it. I didn't even have that on my list. It was a regular season game. It wasn't a regular season game? It was a regular season game. I actually. It was a regular season game. It was week 15, I think. I put more pressure on the playoffs. That was a mental criteria.

24:27I did not say that here. But that was, for me, a mental criteria. But it was a.

24:31Pat McAfee: Yeah, but it's not about your fucking criteria. It's his criteria. No, no. This is mine. No. You're fucking listening. Everything is his. Keep my going. This is all his world. He does kind of have a piece of everything. So largest comeback in NFL history. That was 2022? Was it really? 2022. Jeff Saturday's coach of that team. Largest comeback in history. So statistically, you'd have to say that's the greatest comeback. Mm-hmm. Yes, thank you very much. Thank you very much. You're right, Commissioner. Thank you. We fired a coach mid-season. We hired Jeff Saturday off of ESPN. Jeff Saturday was preparing for NFL Live on Monday, and Jim Irsay called him, and he was the head coach of our fucking team.

25:03Pat McAfee: Jim Irsay. beats the Raiders rest in peace Jim legend peace he's a good good man absolute legend I mean he certainly had his demons I love him I'm very thankful for him I think we all are but he um he calls Jeff Saturday literally out of his house Jeff hadn't even watched the game we played the Patriots we got our asses kicked by the Patriots Jim couldn't take it anymore allegedly story he was in the suite just like nope I'm not doing it and allegedly was calling around I'm a fire in the sky fires Frank Reich okay everything kind of coming together fires Frank Reich as the head coach and everybody's like all right who's gonna be the interim and then jeff saturday gets the hire okay he wasn't coach has never been a coach and everybody goes crazy he beats the raiders first week as the coach i'm very loud because i'm friends with jeff and team i'm like this is easy jeff saturday's got this shit figured out we got it we will go on to lose every other game and and also also we were up 33 nothing at halftime against the vikings and we were going to lose that game for the biggest comeback so people said jeff shouldn't be coaching but yeah i probably I probably shouldn't have picked that one.

26:02Pat McAfee: Thank you. Thank you. What's your fourth? Jeff, you're a great leader. I'm into the miracles. So there are two miracles that stand out for me. The Minnesota miracle and the Music City miracle. Those two were like crazy good to me. So I think both of those. No, you can't. You got to choose. Yeah, you got to choose. No, it's four. It's not five. There's not a fifth. All right, I'm going with the Minnesota miracle only because I was there. And they tried to get me to leave. I was sitting in the stands. 2018, I think. I think it was earlier. Was it earlier? But, yeah. And this was the last play of the game.

26:37Case Keenum, I think, was the quarterback. I think it was 10 seconds to go. They were down. And I think they were on roughly, I'm making it up, 25-yard line. Their own 25-yard line, 10 seconds to go. And we were sitting in the stands with my family. I have a daughter who's a huge Vikings fan. And the security came and said, we should go now so we can get out before the crowd. I said, I can't leave. I can't leave. and I would have missed the greatest play. Of all time. And the greatest moment being there with the Vikings fans. Everyone was just crazy. But he throws a pass, Diggs catches it. Boom.

27:10All the way down. It was like, it was a miracle. It was definitely a miracle. It was a cool moment.

27:16Pat McAfee: Shut down the internet. That was one of the first full shutdowns of the internet, I think. Because Diggs, obviously, at that time with the Vikings, Young, definitely somebody that we all know. Known for having great hands. but safety bites you remember yeah safety overplays the entire should have never done that and then him i don't understand how that could happen there's only why the defensive coach at that point is not saying to him here's what we're doing and don't you play in defense man it's instinct you're going you're doing what you would do in your high school this guy was a great he's a great high school football team but didn't you think that like that was bad defensive coaching or or no no it was a bad defensive play i would believe now granted if you wanted them to drop back and yeah if you're just gonna sit there and say don't play the way you normally play just make sure you keep but wouldn't say that with 10 seconds left the other 25 other 30 other 25 other 30 there's how many they could still get some yardage so i don't think you're playing like picket fence or that at that stage you still got it especially case keenum no offense case keenum i love case keenum but nobody's thinking case games launches thing 70 yards you know so it's not like they're still i think they're thinking two plays great play how many times how many games did football did you play play zero but i've watched all right benny hit it falcons pats obviously there's there's no conversation um you don't know that's your number one one that we've all matched is that your number i don't we don't write i don't rank okay you're gonna own money here okay i mean if i were gonna owe me money okay if i were to rank them you know what do you mean rank them there you're not saying washington is number one and lincoln summer two and jefferson's number three you know of course you do is number one who did what did i come here for he's on the one $1 bill.

28:55Pat McAfee: I mean, there's a lot of ones with George. I'm going Colts-Bucks 0-3 Monday Night Football against the reigning champions, against the craziest D, like Warren Sapp on that D, John Lynch, Rodney Barber. What was that comeback? I think Vanderjack banked in a kick too. You remember that? Yeah, yeah. Definitely. He got a second kick for what? Like it was some weird penalty. It was like a – I don't know. It was some obscure D-line penalty. We definitely needed AI. It wasn't a weird penalty. It was a penalty. It was a penalty. We need the AI to review that. It was not so weird. Dungy, formerly of Tampa, goes to the Colts.

29:31Pat McAfee: Yeah. That's another good story. Takes the Colts down there, is down and out. Oh, I didn't know that. John Gruden wins. I mean, it's not college, so you can't say it's like his recruits. But like Gruden goes in there after Dungy leaves, wins with that team. Dungy obviously with the Colts. And then Peyton, that game. Yeah, the empty stadium, I think. I think the place. Yeah. I think so. I just remember that game very well those Oilers I didn't get a watch but I just watched the same one you had that one? I had it but I didn't get a watch I was three years old or two years old but it's just Ben knows ball yeah I mean it's just obviously on there statistically it has to be on there and for me it's Music City Miracle that's the game that got me into the NFL which one?

30:13Music City Miracle watch that laterals the ball to like Derek Mason who I think was or like I think Kevin Dyson I think Kevin Dyson actually who was replacing Derek Mason on the play and they like i remember in the in the times after they had like these frame by frames it was lorenzo neal lorenzo neal catches it pitches it from lo no i think yeah that's what i check why check laterals it across they get they score in the final it was that that one was like the craziest ability to kind of score that because it went so many different ways you were like and also i remember like i think it was the new york times they had a frame by frame whether the lateral was a forward lateral and like we talked about it but i was nine years old and i remember being like football is the sickest thing in the entire world and i became i was i'm a kid from l.a took you that long to figure that out it took me that long um it's a kid from l.a i became a

31:02Pat McAfee: fucking bitch from l.a no i didn't say it you were thinking it but i was thinking it but i did retweet that yeah okay but also i bet i became i became a titans fan like as a kid from l.a i just became a diehard titans fan for years yeah because of that because of that play i mean that team was crazy is that your fourth make a roll that's my third that's that lateral was it a lateral absolutely oh yeah that's my fourth that's my fourth that's what they call that is okay that's my friend all right i've been taking a page out of your book i've been brushing my teeth in the shower i've been falling asleep with my shoes on so i don't have to put my shoes on in the morning i'm prepared what are some of the things you do to save time all right me yeah you're one of the most efficient people I've ever met?

31:46I don't really think about it. I just do. No think, just do? Yeah. I'm a guy, I'm a guy that shoots and aims later. Yeah. They say, what's they say? They say measure twice, cut once. You cut twice, measure once. Exactly. So that's my life. Okay. Okay. You need to read some kind of stuff about ZipRecruiter. ZipRecruiter is a wonderful new partner and presenter for our podcast Rushmore for season two. And I got some talking points to tell y 'all. Save time and meet great candidates sooner with ZipRecruiter. Four out of five employers who post on ZipRecruiter get a quality candidate within the first day.

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34:09So, of course— I stand by our NFL officials. Of course I say— Perfect line. It is behind. Of course I say the Patriots-Falcons because I was in the box. Okay, so Pat is right, by the way. We all had Patriots-Falcons. Yeah, that's number one. You have to have it on the list. But there was only one that were all right. I think two, actually, the comeback. Oh, crazy. The Bills, Orioles. Never would have guessed that. Orioles. And then— Orioles are very good. They got bats. That would have been a good one. You should see that. They come on the field with fucking bats. So here's what I have. AFC Championship.

34:37This is when in 22. Bengals Chiefs. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I thought that was, I think it was 21-3. And then they came back from that. And I just, at that point, I became a Joe Burrow fan. I mean, I thought he was. When was that? 22.

34:58Pat McAfee: Okay, so you remember that run they had? I said he was, you know, he was the next coming. For sure. And if you remember, Titans number one seed that year, Cincinnati has to go to Tennessee to beat him to get to that game. He gets sacked, I think, like 13 times or something like that. Even in that game, he got sacked. And then in the Super Bowl, Aaron Donald gets him. If Aaron Donald doesn't get him, he hits Jamar Chase. Bengals win a Super Bowl. I remember calling you and I said, are the Bengals for real? He goes, they're real. He's real. Yeah, he's definitely real. That was an unbelievable game.

35:33Pat McAfee: Joe Burrow's special, man. He is really special. Yeah, and Jomar T. I wish they would put guys around him. Well, they do. He's such a good guy. He's got a good team this year. Yeah, and they bring in Sexy Dexy from New York. I think that's a huge signing for them. But they, interestingly, tried to build up offensive skill before any other position, and everybody was like, I don't think that's how you've ever won a game before, and they didn't, and then obviously. It always starts with the offensive line. Yeah, they've restructured all that. I like where the Bengals are. I love Joe. That was cool.

36:00Pat McAfee: Good call by you. You know ball a little bit. Okay, so now I'm going to break the rule here because I can break the rule. So somebody was telling me, and I had to kind of look it up because I wasn't around. So somebody was telling me the Lions-San Francisco game in 1957, the division playoffs, right? Hell yeah. And I'm like, were you there? No, I wasn't. I didn't know anything about it. He goes, because I was asking people, like, what are you doing? And it was 27-7 in the third quarter. And I was like, wow, that was Tobin wrote. I didn't know anything. But I didn't go with that one. And even though it was.

36:35But that's a big comeback in those days. That was a huge comeback. Because he didn't throw the ball. Yeah. It was rugby. You know, you have to put that in. I'm like, what do you think? That's George Washington. Yeah, that's true. Oh, so somebody was giving you this. I was asking questions to people. You can do that. I promise you, you ask questions. You had your whole fucking research team do your list.

36:51Pat McAfee: I did this. This guy typed this with himself. Bold. But I thought. Stats. I'm going. I picked this game out myself. I'm actually going just because of the rivalry. 2013, Patriots-Broncos. New England was behind by 24-0. Who was the quarterback? Peyton Tom. Yeah, Peyton Tom. That rivalry. That's a great rivalry. And it was 24-0, right, at halftime. That was in Denver. Brady does Brady, right? He is. Right? But he was against an incredible quarterback. He was in Denver. Why is this against the rules? He was in Denver. He was in Denver. Why is this against the rules? Because for me, in my mind, it had to be a playoff game to make the list.

37:38You want the consequences. Yeah. So that's the one I have on there. Okay. That Tom came back against Peyton. And that, because Peyton, he is, in my opinion, on Mount Rushmore Peyton. Yeah. You're sitting there, and he's up 24-0. He never would have lost that game, and Tom just did Tom.

38:01Pat McAfee: Yeah. I agree. Yeah, that's – it's also – That was a special game. When Peyton goes to Denver. Yes. Because we – I can't believe it. It's 2013. That was right before – that was during lockout. A decision had to be made. But remember, front office and players weren't talking. It's like a – we're not talking to each other. That was a lockout year. Yes. So he has neck thing. I find out about his neck thing in training camp. So I get summoned to the training room, first day of training camp. I go down there. Life has been good for me. Peyton Manning's the quarterback. I'm a punter. Can you still rip it?

38:38Pat McAfee: Life is pretty good. So I'm bebopping out. I had not talked to Peyton probably like a month or two. You know, like off-season was happening and living. And I get summoned down to the training room by Peyton. And I go down there. And the time I go in his back room, he's got – a lot of shit coming out of his neck okay he's got a lot of shit like stem they got like stem all over his neck and all this shit and i walk in and i'm like whoa whoa no okay and i'm like what's going on he like at that moment he's like hey pal i got like blah blah blah going on we're gonna try to do this we're gonna try to do this but there's a chance and i immediately think to myself like oh i was not prepared to punt as much as i'm gonna have to kick a lot so my first thought is like oh i think i should have probably been working on my job a little bit the last month or so but that was like a scary situation we would go on if we had one more half i think i would go on to break the record amount of punts in a season i had like 11 punts and a half at one point that year we would almost go completely defeated we get andrew luck but whenever they ever ask you to throw the ball me yeah you play quarterback so you run the punch go watch they should have pulled you off go watch go watch film roj please thanksgiving day pittsburgh stealers yeah i yeah i absolutely spin it pat mcafee rolling out looking to throw and he does complete to the tight end that's a pat mcafee who's always got a few tricks up his sleeves i'm gonna have to pull this up okay no we're gonna pull it up you're gonna send it to you okay first my first throwing game I checked to it myself.

40:11Pat McAfee: Dallas Cowboys, it's first drive of the game. We lose a yard after a touchback. So I think we're like 19 or the 18, fourth and 11, fourth and 10. We go out there for a punt. And Chuck Pagano had a lot of faith in me, which I very much appreciate that. So if they didn't have anybody covering our gunners, okay, I could check the throw to them. now we're on our own 18 first quarter okay very aggressive decision but in my mind i'm in jerry world i'm about to fucking spin and they gave that they gave you full authority yeah oh yeah yeah they realize they're nuts no it was we um we had hit it they go back and say like 70 times in practice or something like this exact situation so they squeeze in orlando skandrick i think squeezes in they have nobody so my pp cold anderson turns around and looks at me i'm like yeah so we we check the call so i go from 14 yards up to 11 yards so i can get the ball quicker i move into the middle everybody gets tighter they don't send anybody snap to me no laces by the way watch it i mean it's a fucking this is gonna be so great watch it watch it absolute dart to this guy and drops it that's good you didn't have the laces right Oh, my God.

41:28Pat McAfee: You go on the sideline, you push him out? No, but there's everybody. The kid that dropped it was one of our best special teams player. And, like, the reason he was out there is the reason why we were throwing it. Like, he just in the moment. He always had it. Just something happened. I don't know. He maybe didn't see it or whatever because it was such a pretty ball. You know, I have no idea. He was probably saying, he's doing that. Beautiful. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking he was running. Oh, look how nice that ball is. He couldn't believe he threw that. I think he knew it was coming.

41:55Pat McAfee: I mean. I was very excited for the situation. But he drops it, you know, so they get first and 10 at the 18 or whatever. I think they would go on to score 55 points. We did not score a single. I mean, it was over. And then on Thanksgiving against Pittsburgh Steelers, I rolled right through one Eric Swope. Shout out to him, former Miami. I got to see this. Yeah, I've thrown a few times there. All right, so you're the comeback kid too. I'll tell you what. I think if you were to count from the day in which I had my mug shot blasted all over the world, so now I think you could potentially. We have to pick four now.

42:33Pat McAfee: 28-3, obviously, number one. We all picked it. George Washington. The comeback, I think we have to pick the comeback Phil Oilers. Because there's three of them. You cool with that, Pat? There's three. I love Frank Reich. There's three of them. So I'm cool with it. Right? Okay. Three people. All right, we got Pat Spalcons, we got Bill Zoiler. Okay, now. Damar Hamlin has to. Okay, you're an expert. We're going to do either X. I think Damar Hammond's got it. I had Damar Hammond. I think that's an incredible answer. That's three. So I got two of these things already. Let's see what the... Follow it.

43:02See what the... How about a team comeback? Like from the previous season. It has to be something we've already said. It has to be something we've already talked about. Who made that rule up? That's been for 25. It's in the Constitution. It's in the Constitution.

43:18Pat McAfee: I was just in Philadelphia. Okay. Is there any other one that we've shared? How do you not pick the two best quarterbacks of all time, that game? Regular season game. You're going back to the Denver. Yeah. I mean, how did you think it was a miracle? I mean, it was a magical play. That did get to it. It's not really a comeback. The Minnesota miracle, though, I think if we were going to do one of those crazy plays. Not that, excuse me, a kickoff return to the house is good for any special team player. So I am with that, with the Tennessee thing. That's the fun. That was a good. I completely forgot about that.

43:50Pat McAfee: The Minnesota miracle. It was insane just what happened. What was the game? What year was that? I don't know. 18, I think. We got it. I might have the notes on that. What else we got? We got the - Your notes? I think I might have the notes. Those are in your notes. Yes, I know you typed those. Minnesota Miracle, January 14, 2018. You knew that. You said that earlier, by the way. You should trust yourself. What do you think about that since you guys are the experts? Okay, so for me, I didn't even think about the Minnesota Miracle until he said it. And then as soon as he said it, I was like, holy shit.

44:20Pat McAfee: How do you forget? It shut down. I was on vacation. I think I was on vacation at the time, the boys and I. And I just remember it was a 10-hour internet just shut. This is the one where you wouldn't leave with 10 seconds left. Yes. It was. And if you look back at that play, they had to kick an extra point, too, after Rizente or something like that. No, I don't think so. No, yeah. I think the team was out. It was the Saints. I think they got another play. The Saints. It was definitely the Saints. So Thomas Morstead, okay, punter for the Saints. I don't think so. He comes. I don't remember. He comes out and has to play three technique for the field goal, extra point afterwards, because the Saints lead the field.

44:57Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

44:57Pat McAfee: But it was a ceremonial extra. What happened? Excuse me. So if you score a touchdown whenever the clock ends, the old rule used to be, they change it. After a touchdown, you kick an extra point. Yeah, because football, you fucking kick an extra point, Ari. So the Saints. That's football. This guy doesn't know the game. This guy doesn't know. Boy, he knows all about football. He doesn't know. He's got the extra point. He owns a team. Yeah, so the fucking - That's true. I should be bowing to him. Hey, you need to make 24 of these guys happen. So the Saints, obviously, miserable, devastating, everything.

45:34Pat McAfee: So they leave pads off in the locker room pissed. Refs have to walk in there and say - Put the pads back out. We need 11 guys. We need 11 guys to go field this extra point. So Thomas Morstead, their punter, if you go back, he's in a four-point stance. Never been in one in his life. It's very obvious. Yeah. He's literally sitting like this in a four-point stance. So it was fucking awesome. But like you guys, the NFL, forcing the Saints to go back out there. Hey, fucked up. You did that. Okay. All right. So we have our four. Let's read our four. All right. Here's our four. 28-3. Bill's Oilers. Demar Hamlin.

46:13Minnesota Miracle. Those are great. That's a great one. Can I? Is there an order? No, there's no order. Yeah, 28-3 is one. Okay. okay can i ask can we do a little speed round or something because i have a question because you talked about this and because you know music better than anybody you know music the four greatest from your perspective theme songs whatever renegade would be one i think okay renegade would be one to the nfl you mean a team one yeah like he just said renegade for okay renegade for you i'm not asking all of us i don't know we actually okay renegade for you would be one who would be two okay you don't want to poke on one i'm from the town with the great

46:52Pat McAfee: football team go on and get them the regular okay so in my head i was just trying to figure that out but i think it's not a theme song but it is a song technically i think francis scott key would say it's a song so the chiefs when they do the national anthem have you ever heard what happens no so at the very end it goes and the home and then their fans go jeez so if it's like an away game they immediately know how many chiefs fans are there and whenever you're in arrowhead it's like a fucking so i would say that i would say that is one of them i would say that is certainly one of them i was thinking rock songs but that's okay no but i mean you can put a guitar behind it and i think i think there has been national anthems that have been but keep on going okay so renegade than that um let me figure out i'm trying to figure out who else has one that's like very notable green bay packers have one yeah packers packers have one packers is very go pack go yeah but it's also i think it's called like a barrel or something uh we played them we played them in preseason they beat us by 60 in preseason okay what's the fourth okay so green bay's got one kansas city's got the national anthem that is a rock song if a guy plays it with a guitar I know which one you're going for.

48:06Go on.

48:07Pat McAfee: Steelers, Renegade. We need one more. What do the Bears have? Don't worry about it. I'm just asking you. That's where he's going with. I know, but I haven't seen it. You can look it up, buddy. I thought you knew football. But I'm not going to say it. I thought you were – are you a Bears fan or a Raiders fan? I was a Bears fan. In the NFC, I'm a Bears fan. In the AFC, you know why I'm a Raiders. Do you have another good comeback? That Bears comeback. When they played in the Super Bowl – They were down 20-0 and Devin Hesher gets that return. So when they played in the Super Bowl, who are you rooting for?

48:34for a while. Who else has a song? Money Talks, baby. Oh, Bills. Bills.

48:42Pat McAfee: Yeah, good call. Bills would be the right answer. Bills, Chiefs, Steelers, Packers. Now I want to ask you a question because I have my list. Four greatest football movies, unless you want it, you can check it. Brian Sohn. Okay. What? Brian Sohn. Wow, I didn't think about that. I never seen it. You didn't have that one? I did not have that one. I did not see that. Oh, my God. You haven't seen Brian Sohn? Oh, my God. I never heard of it. Wow, this must be from 1920. I think it was a movie of the week. I think it was a movie of the week, not a movie movie. But in my opinion, Ryan Song is great. Remember the Titans?

49:19I'm not asking you right now. I'm calling it to the commission. That's number two. Remember the Titans, definitely. Definitely. And there's another one in that category. Rudy. You got to go Rudy. I don't think so. You got to go Rudy. You got to go Rudy. Rudy, I've seen Rudy 100 times. Give your four. Hold on. Give me a four. No, you guys should know.

49:36Pat McAfee: The program. Say it. Say it. The program. The what? The program where they're just shooting each other up in the locker room. You love that movie, I assume. The NFL loved the program. I bet. Okay, here's my four. Remember the Titans? Longest Yard. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah, that was the original. The original. Now, Sandler did a great job. Sandman does great at everything. It was great. You should have seen him at Taylor and Travis's wedding. That was incredible. Sandman killed it. He killed it. Sandman was unbelievable. He killed it. He killed it. He killed it. without Adam Sandler except okay remember many people remember the Titans yeah Friday Night Light left side strong side Friday okay and then for me it was North Dallas 40 Nick Noply was in yeah that was a good movie that was a fucking great yeah definitely yeah and then because if I don't say it Shapiro's gonna get out my case even though it wasn't a movie Playmakers when it went on ESO.

50:29I'm sure you... He's still giving a speech. How about Jerry Maguire? Jerry Maguire? Jerry Maguire kind of counts as a football movie, no? I don't put that in my top four, though. It was a good movie. It was a football movie.

50:41Pat McAfee: What about Varsity Blues? Yes. That's a great movie. See, I'm 39, so I was in the generation... But you didn't watch Brian's songs. That Brian song. You're completely irrelevant at this point. I'm void because I haven't seen Brian's song. Wait till you see it. You will cry. You're going to cry. I'm not going to watch it then. You're definitely going to cry. How about this? I'm not watching it if it's going to make me cry. I'll give you one this year. It was about the title bears. Gale Sayers. So you did that to suck, yeah, up to him. I'm going to give you one that you have not seen yet that you're going to really like, and it'll make you cry.

51:16It's coming out of Christmas. Mr. Irrelevant. True story about the Giants. I'm going to leave it there. Is it real? Has it already been made? It's a real story. It's been made. I've seen it. I'm going to tell you a movie that he's in that you're going to cry. Because he's in it? Well, no, no. First of all, he's incredible in the movie. Oh, thank you. He's incredible in the movie. I haven't seen it. I have no idea. Oh, you haven't? Pete Berg's Mosquito Bowl. True story. Oh, yeah, yeah. Pete's talked about this. It's unbelievable. And he's incredible in it. Thank you. And the movie's incredible.

51:44And it was written by Buzz, who wrote Friday Night Lights. Like the book was based on it. Yeah. Buzz Bisinger.

51:49Pat McAfee: And Pete did it. I can't. Pete did a great, great job. He did Friday Night Lights. Yeah, he did. Yeah, so Buzz and - And Buzz wrote it. So Buzz and Peter came Friday Night Lights together, take over the world. Then they came back together for this mosquito bowl. And I mean, you would know the story better than me. But allegedly, from my understanding, when Timothee Chalamet was on Call of the Game Day, a lot of Hollywood was watching. And I'm down there, and I call the dogs. I stand up. Timothee Chalamet's holding a thing. And I go, what's that coming? Oh, I think I saw that. And the whole place goes crazy.

52:19Pat McAfee: I got a call like the next day that was like, hey they're wondering if you would be a drill instructor in this football movie because they watched me do that and uh drill instructor is for the marines so like r lee is a full metal jacket and every drill instructor that's ever been a part of any of these movies that have been worth a are all actual drill instructors like yeah go down and do it so they ask me they're like hey will you be a drill instructor in this world war ii movie i'm like oh so it's the greatest generation and i'm a drill instructor okay and i'm like in my first time acting i'm like i was I was a fat principal before that.

52:49Pat McAfee: It was my first time acting. I was like, as somebody who's done a lot of work with the military, I'm like, that's a lot of pressure. Not to interrupt you, you've been acting your whole life, and it's OK. Amen, brother. Sell, sell, sell. But I got to go down and do it. And I would say, I haven't seen the movie, so I'm not 100 % sure. But that story, after people watch it, I think would lend to it. You know how you say, he's going to cry? You're going to cry. I have no doubt. Thank you, guys, for doing this. We really appreciate this. Hey, great work. Great work, Ben. Thank you. Great work, sir.

53:20Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Rod, you did great.