Bonus: The Art of Learning with Saoirse Ronan and Greta Gerwig

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0:48That's why over 200 ,000 happy customers have made the switch. Upgrade your space today. Visit washablesofas.com now and bring home a sofa made for life. That's washablesofas.com. Offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply. I've always felt very confident in what I do for a living. But the battle for me or the challenge has been opening myself up to other things that I don't know about and being okay with doing it badly. after doing something, one thing for so long since I was a kid. And, you know, when you're a kid, if you're, like, even just halfway decent, everyone's like, oh, my God, she's the greatest thing I've ever seen because you don't get many kids doing what I do.

1:40Only if it's you. Well, I don't know, but, like, I think then when I was older, it meant that whenever I would try other things and I wouldn't do it well straight away, I found that, like, crippling. I think of you as a learner, as a person who likes to learn things. Yeah. I think of you as a person, if someone's like, I want to teach you how to do this, you're like, okay. Like you'll, remember when everybody learned how to knit and then you guys were all knitting like mad? Eliza knitted. Yeah. And I was like, I'm going to do that too because she said Meryl did it as well. Yeah. So I wanted to be in the club.

2:14But I have to actively, if somebody's going to teach me a new skill, I have to be like, just let your mind learn the thing. Stop fighting it. And I feel like you're so eager. It depends though, because I think in general, you see me in an environment where I'm like so open to everything being new. Yes. But actually in my normal life, I'm a lot like you. And I think I've really struggled with appearing to not know how to do something. That's taken me a really long time to feel comfortable with. I can't go to the dentist. That's a skill I'd like. You should work on that. I'm a ski down a mountain, but my fear is going to, you know, I really wanted to learn how to speak properly in public or get up and make a toast or go into a room of, I don't know, 200 people you don't know.

3:08I've actually felt like my two superpowers have been, like, my ability to say I don't know. And my own sense of, like, and I mean this genuinely, mediocrity, meaning not mediocrity, like, I'm terrible. Like, it's middling, and you can work harder to get it better, but, like, I don't feel like I have, like, a Bobby Fischer chest thing or, you know. I don't feel like there's, like, some area of, like, total mastery for me. But I don't, I say that, I'm proud of the work I've done. Yeah. But I don't feel like it was, like, she just came out seeing shots. Like, I feel like I've taught myself. Oh, wait, hold on.

3:52You mean in terms of what you do? Yeah, yeah. Well, that's not true. I thought you meant general. No, but I do. No, no, no, I don't. But I don't. I get it with other things, and I think there's a real power to that, to being like, actually, maybe I'm never going to be great at this. But that is not true with what you do. I was going to say, though, about recipes, one of the things, or cooking, and I'm like out of the habit right now because I'm just in the habit of going to this restaurant. But even the way you order that, you're like, just give me some vegetables. I knew there would be vegetables that I liked.

4:31But I do feel like one of the things that when I'm in the habit of cooking a lot, one of the things that's really satisfying about using recipes is if you make something two or three times, it's like something you have inside you. Like it belongs to you then. and that feels as satisfying to me as, like, you've been in plays and that feeling of, like, when you have a whole play inside you and you're like, I have two hours of material inside. Like, to feel like you have, like, the ability to make something and it's just there. You can pull that out whenever you want. And, like, that feels like, and when you're cooking a lot, that you feel like there's, like, you have kind of a broader range of like what's inside you that feels effortless and it's very satisfying.

5:24And the good thing about studying recipes for a certain amount of time when you begin cooking is that it does give you an understanding of ingredients and what naturally complements another thing. You know, it's the confidence that you, I always love, you do follow a recipe and you know it's good. You don't have failure, you know, and I think failure is the cruel, the really cool stuff when you because it's a performance you know and a recipe takes you through step by step a good recipe will take you here you are yeah and you know it goes from one extreme where they tell you the size of the tin by inches or by you know centimeters and and a quarter of a third of a teaspoon and all that or that and i like that or a recipe can be just to inspire you to do something which i like the structure of a of a really good recipe and then you can take it take it away yeah I think that I subconsciously knew that if I stick to this discipline for a few years I'll gain my confidence enough to be able to then kind of like explore what I want to do with cooking but it's taken me a really long time and I would say that I'm the same with acting as well that I was I am very very specific and very precise but it's been I would say since little women that I felt confident enough to then go okay I'm gonna like mess this up a little bit and I'm gonna break it open and see what's there and not be afraid of it being a little messier than I would usually allow myself to let it be.

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