Peter Sarsgaard On Bees And A Bear

6 Mar 2026 · 8 min · 5 chapters

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Podcast Episode Notes: Ruthie's Table 4 - Peter Sarsgaard On Bees And A Bear

Episode Overview In this bonus episode of *Ruthie's Table 4*, host Ruthie Rogers welcomes actor Peter Sarsgaard to discuss his passion for beekeeping and the environmental challenges he faces, particularly with local wildlife, such as bears.

Key Themes

  1. Beekeeping Passion
  2. Interest Origin: Sarsgaard's journey into beekeeping began at age 13, influenced by a gentle uncle who imparted a deep respect for nature and bees.
  3. Mindfulness with Bees: Emphasizes that beekeeping requires a calm and thoughtful approach, as bees respond better to gentle handling.
  1. Environmental Challenges
  2. Bear Encounters: Sarsgaard shares experiences of bears raiding his beehives, indicating that bears are more interested in bee larvae for protein than the honey itself.
  3. Climate Impact: Discussion on how climate change affects bear populations and their behavior, leading them into more urban areas in search of food.
  1. Bee Survival Tips
  2. Winter Care: Importance of insulating hives and managing moisture to ensure bees survive cold winters. Sarsgaard mentions the need to reduce space in the hives to prevent moisture buildup which can be deadly for bees.
  3. Bear Deterrents: Highlights the challenges of effectively securing beehives against bears, including the inadequacy of standard chicken fencing against much larger animals.
  1. Honey Varieties
  2. Seasonal Differences: Differences in honey characteristics based on geographical location. Sarsgaard contrasts the honey collected in Vermont, influenced by seasonal flora (dandelions, clover, goldenrod), with the diverse urban flora in New York City.
  1. Gardening Insights
  2. Sarsgaard also discusses his gardening experiences, including growing figs, persimmons, and even maintaining a lemon tree gifted by Reese Witherspoon, showcasing the connection between culinary pursuits and gardening.

Highlighted Quotes

  • "I do take honey from the bees, but how did that start?"
  • "You have to be kind of like still and thoughtful and move slowly with bees."
  • "Their own condensation can be deadly for bees in the winter."

Conclusion This episode of *Ruthie's Table 4* beautifully weaves together personal anecdotes, environmental awareness, and a deep appreciation for the delicate balance of nature, as Sarsgaard shares insights into the life of a beekeeper. The discussion not only highlights the joys of beekeeping but also serves as a reminder of the challenges that come with it, especially in the face of climate change and wildlife interactions.

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Chapters

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Peter Sarsgaard's Journey with Cooking and Bees

2:43 to 4:25

Peter shares how cooking helped him connect with bees and nature.

“And that's also like, for me, I really fell in love with bees, not honey.”

Caring for Bees in Different Environments

4:25 to 5:59

Learn about the differences in beekeeping in NYC and Vermont.

“And so I got back, shrunk everything down, made sure they had enough honey, put a thing on top filled with wood chips that takes up moisture.”

Challenges with Bears and Beekeeping

5:59 to 8:13

Discover the challenges Peter faces with bears while beekeeping.

“I ran down there and started yelling at him.”

Seasonal Honey Varieties and Foraging

8:13 to 9:08

Discuss the different varieties of honey and foraging in Vermont.

“But if there's enough food in the forest, there's no problem.”

Gardening in New York City

9:08 to 10:16

Peter talks about growing various plants and fruits in NYC.

“And there's so much forage in New York City.”
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2:42Ruthie Rogers:I think I got interested in cooking as a way of dealing with all the stuff I was growing. And that's also like, for me, I really fell in love with bees, not honey. So I do take honey from the bees. but how did that start tell me about the b my uncle how old are you i was 13 my uncle was like really really a very gentle to me he seemed like saint francis of assisi or something like that he seemed almost like a spiritual guy but he had been a football player for like lsu and he played center and so and then he boxed and then he was a fireman and he had a lot of uh he had problems with his brain because of cte and repetitive trauma and but he always just had a real kindness to him for a guy that had been such a pugilist in his life and i was very attracted to that way of being and when you're around bees you really have to be like that so how did it start how you i just walked out to the hive with him one day and um i remember we took off the bonnet we were wearing bonnets we took them off and we just sat there with them and you have to be kind of like still and thoughtful and move slowly and i just loved all those parts of it to me that was like the you know i sound like such a uh i do have an edge in me somewhere

4:11Peter Sarsgaard:but i guess i'm not expressing it today where are the bees where are they are they in vermont

4:16Ruthie Rogers:yeah i have bees in new york city as well as well yeah the bees in new york city i just made it back I've been like you know when you have something like that that you're caring for you're daydreaming about them a lot of the time and I left the hive for you know there's a late forage that comes on with like goldenrod and stuff like that and I left it with an extra box on top for them to fill just in case yeah or they become honey bound and I'd never taken it off and then it got cold and now they have to heat a quite a large space and I've heard it been freezing a couple of times And I'm thinking about, okay, they're alive, but they're hating this.

4:55And so I got back, shrunk everything down, made sure they had enough honey,

5:01Ruthie Rogers:put a thing on top filled with wood chips that takes up moisture. And then I insulate them just a little bit just to break the wind. And then that night it went down to 12 degrees Fahrenheit. No. And I was like, no, and they're good.

5:13Peter Sarsgaard:That was so good. They were good.

5:15Ruthie Rogers:Yeah.

5:16Peter Sarsgaard:If you hadn't done that, what would have happened?

5:18Ruthie Rogers:They might have been okay. I mean, bees are pretty durable in the winter. It's not the thing that kills them. Moisture kills them more than cold. Like if they get wet. A lot of rain. Yeah. Like if it gets wet, their own, they create condensation in there because of the temperature difference. So like two gallons of water will go through a hive in the winter.

5:38Peter Sarsgaard:I love that.

5:40Ruthie Rogers:And you want to let it go up through the wood chips and down the sides of the walls. and I'm anyway I'm thinking about them like all the time it's it's somebody there you're someone who I do it but if you're away what if I'm away I know a beekeeper in Vermont so I also have them in Vermont the ones in Vermont are really hard because I have bears and bears have taken out my bees you have bears yeah bears have taken out my bees twice big time where they just destroyed everything like five hives and then once where i was able to get it back together and i saw it doing it once actually i got into my kids always tell this story where like i hadn't learned to have the really serious electrical fencing so i had like one you use for chickens because we also had chickens up there and so i'm doing this like chicken fencing or whatever bear goes right through

6:34Peter Sarsgaard:it i see what intention did the bear have do you think they want the larva they want the larva yeah

6:40Ruthie Rogers:The people think they're after the honey, like Winnie the Pooh, but the honey is just the extra. They're after the larva, the protein. And they eat frames. And so I saw him do it. I ran down there and started yelling at him. At the bear? Do you have to be careful of a bear? I mean, these are black bears. How tall are they? They're really big. I mean, they're like 300 pounds, some of them. But they're not, I know it sounds cavalier. they really are a different type of bear than like a grizzly or a kodiak or a brown or polar bear will they do something maybe but like certainly not if you're making a lot of noise going toward it they run away and so he ran away and then as i'm like trying to reinforce it and put the whole thing back together i get it so that i've jerry-rigged something that could really protect my bees i go up the hill i get up to the house the girls are watching the bear comes right through knocks the whole thing down and takes it out and i was like no so um that's what i'm dealing with it's man versus nature up there in vermont and i'm losing um are there more bears than they used

7:51Peter Sarsgaard:to be are they definitely and is that because of the climate you know i actually think because

7:57Ruthie Rogers:of the climate there's more bears in the towns yeah because they're going toward there for food because we've had a number of droughts and stuff and that's when they start getting interested i I don't leave trash out or anything. I just have my bees, which are a big reason for them to come by. But if there's enough food in the forest, there's no problem. So, yeah, they go to the dumpsters and they'll eat anything. But we haven't had, like in Japan, I know they have some problems with interactions between people and bears.

8:27Peter Sarsgaard:What's the honey like? The honey up there is more easy to describe.

8:33Ruthie Rogers:Like the honey in Vermont really comes out in seasons. So you have like, you know, the dandelions first, or maybe some, I have a load of apple trees. So like that for sure. Then, so the main ones though are dandelion, clover, goldenrod. Those are like big chunks. And then there's also maple flowers come in at certain points. So it's, it's, it's fairly uniform, but not completely. New York, I get like a checkerboard hive. Do you?

9:05Peter Sarsgaard:Very, very different. It's all different things.

9:08Ruthie Rogers:And there's so much forage in New York City. And also the heat being held by all the concrete and everything being next to the water. I grow figs very easily and well in my backyard. Do you? Loads of them. Yeah, because an Italian, I believe, must have owned my house back in the day. It used to be all Italian.

9:26Peter Sarsgaard:If you think that New York, I always think like there's a direct line from London to New York, but in New York is latitude as Naples. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very south. It's very south.

9:39Ruthie Rogers:And it stays.

9:39Peter Sarsgaard:I don't think we could grow fig here. We've grown artichokes here. We've grown boilotti beans. I have an olive tree on my roof. How about like a persimmon? And we have a persimmon. Yeah, we could grow persimmons here. I had a persimmon for a while. You can't grow lemons.

9:53Ruthie Rogers:I grow lemons, but I bring them inside.

9:55Peter Sarsgaard:Yeah, you have to. But I've had one.

9:58Ruthie Rogers:This is funny. I have one that Reese Witherspoon gave me. We did a movie together called Rendition. This was, I think, 30 years ago or something. And I've cared for that thing really actively for 30 years. And it really puts out lemons. It does? It smells great. Yeah, I love it.

10:18Peter Sarsgaard:And L.A. I just came back from L.A. Lemons everywhere. Yeah, they take those for granted.

10:24Ruthie Rogers:Yeah.

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In this bonus episode of Ruthie's Table 4, actor Peter Sarsgaard explains the joys of beekeeping, as well as the challenges of protecting his hives from hungry bears.

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