In short
Schwab’s Friday market preview (Sept 25) focused on rising Treasury yields, hawkish Fed expectations, oil/Geopolitics (U.S.-Iran, Strait of Hormuz), upcoming inflation and manufacturing data, and mixed equity sector performance.
Guests
None mentioned; the episode quotes Schwab analysts Colin Martin (head of Fixed Income Research and Strategy, SCIFR) and Nathan Peterson (director of derivatives research and strategy at Skiffer).
Key claims
Bond market is signaling concern about rates/prices; economic backdrop remains firm and inflation still a concern, implying rates may stay higher. Higher yields compete with stocks for investor cash and pressure rate-sensitive sectors (utilities/staples) and growth/small caps.
Notable examples
10-year yield ~5.17% near 2007 resistance; CME FedWatch hike odds ~71% next month. Oracle citing force majeure for data center payments; Oracle shares down 3.45%. Oracle/AI borrowing pressure on tech. Oracle data center schedule reportedly intact. Oracle-linked Blue Owl down 3.6%. MGM down 11% after rescinded offer; chip stocks fell again. Trump-Xi trade truce extended two months into January.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOBond Market Pressure and Economic Indicators
0:45 to 1:52
Discussion on the bond market performance and its implications for investors.
“That level could represent a resistance point to watch today.”
Rising Oil Prices and Global Events
1:52 to 3:39
Impact of rising oil prices and geopolitical discussions on market dynamics.
“Rising yields can and often do reflect economic strength, but in this case, it's more of a mixed picture.”
Interest Rates and Fed Commentary
3:39 to 4:47
Analysis of interest rates, Fed commentary, and their effects on economic outlook.
“can be more sensitive to rising long-term yields, which may clip profits.”
Housing Market and Job Claims
4:47 to 6:06
Review of housing sales data and initial jobless claims and their significance.
“Expenditures, or PCE, Price Index, due Wednesday, and the ISM Manufacturing PMI for September, due Thursday.”
Market Performance and Sector Analysis
6:06 to 7:59
Examination of market performance across sectors and individual stocks.
“A tight labor market can ultimately push wages higher, and layoff levels have been low.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:05Welcome to the Schwab Market Update Podcast, where we prepare you for each trading day with a recap of recent news and a look at what's ahead.
0:18I'm Colette O 'Claire, and here is Schwab's early look at the markets for Friday, September 25th. Dismal bond performance continued late this week, offering no relief to investors exhausted by months of steadily rising yields and keeping pressure on stocks. Weak debt auction demand, heavy borrowing, rising oil, and rallies in global bond yields all contributed. Yield swung higher again Thursday, bringing the benchmark 10-year Treasury note yield to 5.17 % by late in the session, within striking distance of 2007's intraday high of just above 5 .30%. That level could represent a resistance point to watch today.
1:05Hawkish Fed speak with seven policymakers now hinting at a second near-term rate hike played a part in this week's blistering yield rally. New York Fed President John Williams was the latest to weigh in with hawkish words early Thursday. U.S. crude added another 3 percent yesterday to top$95 per barrel, despite a Reuters report that the U.S. and Iran had discussed a phased reopening of the Strait of Hormuz and an end to the U.S. blockade of Iran. Separately, NBC News reported that Iran's president said he's willing to make a deal to end the war before the U.S. midterm election. Oil finished off its highs and stocks rebounded slightly after those reports, but there have been positive headlines before that didn't precede progress.
1:57Rising yields can and often do reflect economic strength, but in this case, it's more of a mixed picture. The bond market appears to be sounding concern about rates and prices. I think it's saying that the economic backdrop remains relatively firm, inflation is still a concern, and interest rates may need to remain higher than investors previously expected, said Colin Martin, head of Fixed Income Research and Strategy at the Schwab Center for Financial Research, or SCIFR. The two-year Treasury note yield is well above the midpoint of the Fed Fund's rate range, trading near 4.85%. The Fed just raised its target range to 3.75 % to 4%.
2:42Generally, the two-year Treasury yield is a good representation of where the markets expect the Fed Fund's rate to be in one year's time. From an investor's perspective, Fed rate hikes could pull up the yields on short-term investments. The yields on Treasury bills, short-term certificates of deposit, and money market funds have a strong relationship with the Fed funds rate. When yields on the assets rise, they compete with stocks for investor cash, another potential challenge for Wall Street. Certain sectors, notably utilities and staples that offer dividends, tend to lose ground when yields rise because higher yields compete with income they offer investors.
3:29Small cap stocks also backtracked this week, accompanied by growth areas like tech. Stocks with heavy borrowing needs or earnings growth seen farther out in the future can be more sensitive to rising long-term yields, which may clip profits. That's why Bloomberg's report Thursday that Oracle cited force majeure to potentially postpone payments should a data center its building not come online on schedule might have spooked tech traders. It reinforces ideas that borrowing put the tech sector under pressure. Oracle, which fell 3.45 percent Thursday, borrowed heavily to finance its AI footprint, and it's far from alone among big tech.
4:10The company told Reuters that particular data center remains on its schedule. Yesterday's seven-year Treasury note auction wrapped up the week's slate with a thud as demand looked soft, Briefing.com reported. Foreign demand was particularly disappointing. That followed soft demand for a five-year note auction Wednesday that also pushed yields higher. Robust U.S. manufacturing and services data this week raised concern that blistering economic growth could keep inflation elevated. That helps explain the rise in yields across the curve. It also puts more emphasis on data next week, including the August personal consumption Expenditures, or PCE, Price Index, due Wednesday, and the ISM Manufacturing PMI for September, due Thursday.
5:01As of late Thursday, odds of a rate hike next month stood near 71 percent, according to the CME FedWatch tool, up from 55 percent a week ago. Chances of at least one hike by year-end hit 94 percent, with around 56 percent odds of two more hikes this year. Costco reported late Thursday, with eyes on its membership numbers. Next week brings a little more excitement on the earnings front, as Micron and Nike both report. In data yesterday, new home sales for August easily outpaced expectations at a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 684 ,000. Analysts had expected 610 ,000. July sales also got revised up to 643 ,000.
5:52Weekly initial jobless claims fell to 197 ,000 from 202 ,000 the prior week, the government said today. Levels remained historically light, raising concerns that the job market might be tightening. A tight labor market can ultimately push wages higher, and layoff levels have been low. Today brings the final September University of Michigan consumer sentiment soon after the open. The preliminary reading of 47.8 percent was historically weak, and briefing.com consensus is for no change to the final headline today. Inflation expectations are another element to watch, rising to 3.4 percent for the long term from August's 3.3 percent in the preliminary report.
6:42On Thursday, major indexes found almost no traction, but managed to mostly hold on to Wednesday's closing levels. The broader market barely slipped, and the tech-dominated Nasdaq was slightly green. Indexes recovered from weaker levels earlier in the session, lifted by hopes for Middle East progress and news that U.S. President Trump and Chinese President Xi were striking a positive tone in their meeting. The countries extended their trade truce for two months, now into January. Breath remains weak, but five of 11 S &P 500 sectors closed higher Thursday, led by communication services and health care.
7:23Strength continued in alphabet and meta-platforms, with the Magnificent Seven generally outperforming the broader market over the last few weeks. Still, not all was well in the tech world as chip stocks fell again. Consumer and transport stocks remained under rate and oil pressure, with UPS and FedEx both down sharply. The broader market hasn't posted a new high since August, chopping around in a trading range between 7 ,600 and 7 ,800 for the S &P 500 index, even as crude and yields advanced. Markets participants seem to have concluded that higher oil prices are bad, yes, but that they haven't really done anything to deter the U.S.
8:12consumer, said Nathan Peterson, director of derivatives research and strategy at Skiffer. The SIBO volatility index with VIX, which surged above 16 early Thursday, stepped back to below 15.7 later on, still relatively low. Checking other individual performers Thursday, Blue Owl Capital, which owns the data center developer cited by Oracle, fell 3.6 percent. MGM Resorts fell 11 percent after a takeover offer was rescinded. Darden Restaurants dropped 3 percent, despite quarterly earnings coming in near Wall Street's expectations. Sales at outlets open a year or more rose for each of the firm's restaurants, and the company reaffirmed prior guidance.
9:00Higher costs appeared to hurt shares. Nebius Group rose 7.4 percent when Bank of America lifted its forecast for revenue from the company over the 2026 to 2028 period. The Dow Jones Industrial Average lost 161.61 points or 0.31 % Thursday to 51 ,349.98. The S &P 500 Index slipped 1.90 points or 0.02 % to 7 ,704.13. and the Nasdaq Composite rose 3.34 points or 0.01 % to 26 ,939.37. This has been the Schwab Market Update podcast. To stay informed, visit schwab.com slash market update or follow for free in your favorite podcasting app. And if you like what you've heard, please consider leaving us a rating or review.
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