The Who What Wear Podcast: Holt Renfrew Fashion Director Joseph Tang on Which S/S 26 Runway Trends Will Make It to Market and His 2026 Wardrobe Staples

11:55Lauren Eggertsen:I think the boho trend was something that Chimina Kamali at Chloe kind of spearheaded this resurgence of the Stevie Nicks boho inspired prairie girl. And we've been seeing a lot of brands really tap into that look and feel. So Doin has done extremely well for us this 2025 year. Those boho inspired dresses paired back with like the barn jacket. The barn jacket was so big for us in 2025. Boat shoes. It's so funny to talk about Boshu because I'm like, it was at its peak in February and it's already almost a year later. But I mean, that Miu Miu Boshu was like waitlisted. I remember getting a pair in Milan and then all the store teams saw me the next week I was back.

12:37Lauren Eggertsen:And they were like, how did you get your hands on these? They were still waiting for hours to come in store. And I think the 2025 year was all about these pop colors. So butter yellow continued from the year before. and then these pop of reds. I mean, I can't tell you how many like red sweaters we've been able to sell and keep getting asks for season after season. And I am kind of on the like fence about this trend, but it's like these bag charms. It is definitely something that is continuing to be a huge trend for us here.

13:10Joseph Tang:Was there anything in terms of trends or styles or brands that you were shocked were successful this year that people were really into that you didn't feel like you were sure of?

13:19Lauren Eggertsen:I'm surprised to see all these very colorful bags and shoes gain traction. And investing in a better yellow stiletto heel is a commitment.

13:30Joseph Tang:Yeah.

13:30Lauren Eggertsen:Or a turquoise leather handbag is a commitment. But we've been seeing some really great successes in these bold, almost quirky color palettes. They're not pastels, they're not primary colors, but they're in between. like lime green. We had these lime green dough and shorts that I loved. And then I remember there was some apprehension about the commercial viability of a lime green lace short and sold out.

13:57Joseph Tang:I love that.

13:59Lauren Eggertsen:I love those kind of moments where we're able to touch on a trend and take a risk and then know that if anything just reestablishes our authority.

14:07Joseph Tang:Yeah, absolutely. Also to your credibility and like your talent, knowing that Holt Renfrew has such a strong directional element and like that level of education that we were talking about. Yeah, they trust you if they see something that might feel a little surprising to them. I feel like if I was the customer, I would be drawn to that to be like, Oh, that must be the thing.

14:28Lauren Eggertsen:Totally.

14:29Joseph Tang:Okay, so on the topic of trends, I've always been just so in awe of you because of how much you travel. And I feel like Like how quickly you have to see a million shows, you have to digest them all and then be able to figure out creatively and strategically what is going to work for your store. So what is your process for that? Like, because you're seeing so much, how do you narrow it down to the themes and items that are worth paying attention to for your company?

14:51Lauren Eggertsen:Totally. So before we go to market, I kind of already have a roadmap of what I am looking to see. I have my target list of brands that I know are really important for us in terms of our relationship with the brands, in terms of how big the brands are presented in our stores. And then I just keep mental notes of what everything I'm seeing and where the kind of through line is throughout the season. A little interesting fact is that I don't write any notes ever. I used to write little memos in my notes app, and then it would start giving me anxiety just seeing how much stuff I was looking at. So I would say my camera roll is a little bit of just like how I remember things.

15:32Lauren Eggertsen:And I will take a picture of a detail of a sleeve in a showroom because I really liked that little detail. And I thought that was something that was a new styling motif that I think we could bring to our mannequin displays. So the fashion week and going to the shows is obviously the very glamorous portion of my job. But really where I get all of my insights is through the showrooms, having those conversations with our brands, talking about what is really going to drive the narrative forward when it comes to each one of the brand partners we work with, and then synthesizing it all into our different trend reports by city.

16:07Lauren Eggertsen:So after each city, I'll do a recap of what colors were really prominent, what silhouettes, what key items, whether it was a shoe, a bag, a dress. And then I'm in constant correspondence with my buying team. And I can say, we actually bought this skirt from another brand, so we don't need to buy another one. So there's a lot of that going on. And then there's a lot of, okay, well, the hemlines this season are a bit more mid-cap, so we need taller boots. So I'm always thinking about how to dress the customer from head to toe. And the one thing that I think is tried and true about anyone who loves fashion is they just want to be comfortable and be able to go through their days knowing that the clothes aren't wearing them.

16:50Lauren Eggertsen:And I always want to make sure that there's a practicality when it comes to decisions that we make when we buy pieces for the store. That, of course, you're going to have a completely avant-garde piece from Junior Watanabe. But there's something that we want to encourage our customers to dial back with so that you can understand the longevity of the piece that you're investing in.

17:11Joseph Tang:You could fall in love with one specific item. And then if you have nothing to wear it with, what's the point of buying it?

17:16Lauren Eggertsen:Exactly. I have the three rule. I need to be able to wear an item three different ways before I buy something. And I share that with our customers and our sales associates all the time. If someone is ever ho-humming about something in the change room, ask them three different ways you would wear this. And then if you can't think of it, then that's an easy decision maker.

17:34Joseph Tang:Okay, so moving on a little bit. I saw on Instagram that Holt Renfrew started a sub stack, which I kind of mentioned in the beginning. And the first entry is an interview with you. And of course, I love it. There's something I wanted to address, though. On the record, you said that you can't get on board with the ugly shoe trend. And at Who What Wear, we have been known to talk a lot about an ugly shoe trend. We're not for it or against it. We just report on it, obviously. So I want to learn more. what are the ugly shoe styles that you would literally never wear yourself? Okay.

18:05Lauren Eggertsen:What I will say here is this. There's something for everyone. Every pot has a lid. So I don't want to diminish or discourage any room from embracing an ugly shoe. People may say all the shoes I have are ugly, but fashion is already a very intimidating industry for those who may not be in it. And when I see platform Crocs on a runway with a balloon gown, I don't know if I can stand behind that. And listen, Crocs have a time and place. Everyone is entitled to wear whatever they want. No judgments here. But for me, I'm always going to advocate for a shoe that makes sense. I always like to say, does your outfit read you're going to the same party?

18:45Lauren Eggertsen:Wearing a ball gown with Crocs. I don't know what party that is. Maybe I'd like to go to that party. But even like the, you know, those Dr. Scholl clogs. Yes. Those ones too. Listen, it was on a Mimi runway. So anything Mimu does, I am a hardcore stan for. I think Carrie Bradshaw wore the one sex in the city once.

19:04Joseph Tang:Yes.

19:04Lauren Eggertsen:So I get it. Is it something I would recommend? No. If it's something that you want to wear, by all means, go for it.

19:11Joseph Tang:I fully understand what you're saying. I feel like there was a time in my life where I was obsessed with trends when I was younger because I worked in fashion and I wanted to have the next coolest thing that everyone was talking about. And there's nothing wrong with that either. I almost feel like you have to go through like a little bit of that at some point in your life to reach your sense of personal style. You know what I mean?

19:31Lauren Eggertsen:Yeah. Oh my gosh.

19:33Joseph Tang:Were there any items or styling methods that you personally found yourself wearing over and over again this past year in 2025?

19:41Lauren Eggertsen:Yes. And I would say a lot of these go between men's and women, but like one that I've done for quite a bit of time now is the double shirt. So I don't like wearing blazers or jackets, but I felt like I needed to be a little bit more professional sometimes. So just coincidentally, I was wearing a suede shirt. I didn't want to wear nothing under it. So I just put like a little silk button up underneath. And I was like, wait, I kind of like how this layered look is in shirting. So then I just started wearing two shirts all the time. And then I started noticing on the runways a little bit more too.

20:16Lauren Eggertsen:And I was like, okay, I guess I'm kind of fueling the trend here. And again, a really easy hack to do this kind of like pop of color if you don't want to commit to like a red shirt. This is a controversial one because I mean, some would argue it's an ugly shoe, but I really stood behind the flip-flop this summer.

20:32Joseph Tang:You did. You wore the flip-flops all summer.

20:35Lauren Eggertsen:Yeah. And every time I looked at my feet on the cobblestones of Paris, I just had to remind myself it was for the look. I would wear flip-flop with like a puddling pant. So you really just saw a really beautiful toe moment. It wasn't like barefoot flip-flop with shorts going fashion week.

20:52Joseph Tang:And the flip-flops were very elevated.

20:54Lauren Eggertsen:Very inspired by like Hermes and the row. And we elevated this kind of ubiquitous item. Yes. Monochromatic dressing is another one. It's to me the easiest way to get dressed because it's just like foolproof. Just wear different colors of brown, different colors of beige, different colors of gray. And then maybe you add in like a complimentary pop color to make it look new and fresh. And that is a styling hack and a method that has really gotten me through day 24 on the road when I'm just sick of everything in my suitcase. And then last but not least, I would say like the funnel neck trend. So crazy how little detail can just make an outfit look so much more elevated and sophisticated.

21:36Lauren Eggertsen:And for those of you who want to invest in a funnel neck detail, my recommendation is always to invest in jackets that have a double zip so that you can zip it from the bottom and you give yourself a little bit more of that open silhouette, but you're covered on top. Those are my foolproof ways. And again, I'm trying to embrace more deceptive details in my wardrobe now where it's still beautifully crafted. There's really great trend items, but they're a little bit more deceptive and discreet.

22:03Joseph Tang:Yeah, definitely. I love that. You have such amazing personal style. I always look forward to seeing what you wear, the way that you pack. I know we've done a story with you for our editors and residents about how you manage it all. But little tips like that, I think are relevant to anyone, no matter how long your trip is, or if you just don't know what to wear, that is like a great hack. When this episode comes out, we'll officially be getting ready for spring shopping. So what are some of the runway trends you saw at the spring summer 26 shows that we can expect to make it into market this spring?

22:34Lauren Eggertsen:Okay. So I mean, the spring 26 season, it was the September to remember. There was new designer debuts everywhere you went. My biggest takeaway from the spring collections was really this notion of bright optimism and color. Color blocking, bold prints, geometric prints. I cannot stop thinking about that Celine long sleeve white dress that was like color blocked or the different uses of color through texture. So Epitiga Veneta, Louise Trotter had all these recycled plastic fur done in like this canary yellow and this teal blue. So color is going to be the way we update our wardrobes for spring.

23:14Lauren Eggertsen:We continue to see this kind of minimalistic mood come through, like what we saw at Jill Sander this season. It was still very minimal, but not quite luxury. It's not like this muted monochromatic color palette. To me, the minimalism this spring is all about that kind of form and figure. So like a perfectly tailored, seamless jacket paired back with like a micro v-neck in a bright coloration. And there was this rebellious attitude from the collections that was a really nice segue away from true boho and into more of this romantic rebellious spirit that is touching on this medieval thing where we're seeing the exuberance of the 80s blended with these Edwardian lace voluminous blouses with the balloon pant.

24:01Lauren Eggertsen:I mean, every designer in New York, I felt, showed their version of this balloon jawed hopper pan for the spring season. And then, again, really loving all of these new iterations of feminine dressing. So we're seeing a lot of these floral dresses styled back with like rugged boots or rugged jackets. And I think, if anything, it's all about that dichotomy between the hard and the soft and seeing something that you traditionally see, like a lace blouse styled back with like a leather pant. That is the big messages I'd see from the spring season that we actually bought into that I'm excited to get my hands on once in the store.

24:37Joseph Tang:Speaking to all of the designers and this huge renaissance that we're having, for Holt Renfrew, what do you think are going to be some of the most prominent and successful brands that have had sort of a new creative director step in?

24:48Lauren Eggertsen:Yeah, I think Chanel is a huge one. We have Chanel's in almost all of our stores and we have a very devoted Chanel clientele. The appointment of Mathieu Blaisier is super important. I was a Matthew Blasey fan at Bottega. Obviously, he's from the same campus, Peter Mueller at Elia and Ralph Simmons. So we expect nothing less than big things from him. J.W. Anderson at Dior is another big one and another one that we believe will just bring the Dior customer to the next iteration of who she may want to be or who he may want to be. I loved all of his interpretations of the bar jacket. That's really where we're starting to see that little renaissance core.

25:28Lauren Eggertsen:trend start to bubble up. I think the footwear is going to be really important for our customers as well, because we're ready for this very feminine, but still quirky footwear motifs that Jonathan is so well known for. And I love that he referenced Roger Vivier as well in his collection when Roger Vivier was designing shoes for Christian Dior. And then I think the other big one for us is Gucci. You know, Gucci has been a tried and true brand for us here at Polt through for a long time. And I think that Demna has such a unique point of view when it comes to image and styling. But I think when the product hits the stores, our clients are really going to start to get excited about it.

26:07Joseph Tang:Definitely. I'm excited about the slouchy East West Jackie bag. Really like that.

26:11Lauren Eggertsen:Yeah. And I'm so into this low rise trouser with the horse bit buckle detail on it. I think it's super, super cool.

26:18Joseph Tang:I'm excited as well. Speaking of items like that, I trust you with my life when it comes to shopping and items.

26:26Lauren Eggertsen:Oh my God, that's a big statement, Lauren. I do.

26:27Joseph Tang:I feel like every time I buy something, I'm like, Joseph, what do you think if it's like an investment? So what predictions do you have for really popular items? You can have it be in the trend family or just like newer investment pieces. But I'm curious if you have your eye on anything.

26:42Lauren Eggertsen:I've been seeing some memes about the green military jacket, which was so iconic back in 2007. But I think the notion of what Jonathan did at Dior with those embroidered brocade military jackets, I think you're going to start seeing a lot of designers play with that motif. And men's especially, I think we've been in the shirt jacket realm for so long. So I think a military jacket or an aviator jacket is going to be such a nice nuanced piece to get into for the upcoming during 2026 year. In terms of colors, I think that we're still in peak red color. So red is still really important. But I think we're going to be moving into again, more of these really bright, optimistic, weirder colors, but I think they're going to be really important.

27:25Lauren Eggertsen:So like turquoise or lime green or chartreuse, very much the colors of Alaya that we saw from the spring collection, I think are going to be really, really important. The reason why those are important is because those are accent colors that style back to brown. So brown definitely has had a huge moment over the past two years. But I think people are wanting to figure out new ways to style brown. So that's why red and butter yellow were so big this year. And why I think turquoise and lime green and red and yellow are still gonna be really important to kind of anchor that brown coloration. The silk scarf, I think, is going to continue.

28:02Lauren Eggertsen:Therese Van Noten for his men's show back in June showed all these men in suits with silk sarong scarves tied around their waist. And I feel like this summer was all about the summer of a poochie silk scarf tied around your head or your waist. And I think we're going to continue seeing that, but in bigger proportions. So that kind of layered silk scarf styled over a maxi skirt for summer is going to be super big. In jewelry, the brooch is back. I think the brooch is a nice way to transition from your bag charm. One of our reference photos in our offices is this like little canvas tote covered in brooches.

28:40Lauren Eggertsen:So I'm trying to figure out how we can do a little brooch bar for the spring season.

28:44Joseph Tang:So fun.

28:45Lauren Eggertsen:Yeah. And again, like it's such an easy way to update a black jacket or if you're wearing a scarf, it's an easy thing to help pin the scarf so it stays in place. So I'd say those are kind of where it's at. And then for next year, sports in Canada anyways are going to be super big. Canada is hosting some of the World Cup. Obviously, the Milan Olympics are happening in the first half of the year. So we anticipate this sport jacket, jersey, that's going to be important for us anyways. We're working on some things to really play into that attitude and that notion of sport.

29:18Joseph Tang:Yeah, I'm excited as well.

29:20Lauren Eggertsen:And then pajama dressing, this kind of like silk pajamas for men and women. Again, like that whole like notion of that seductiveness at Tom Ford, I think is really something that people are getting attuned to and excited for because it's not going to the club sexy. It's like very much sleek and sublime sexiness.

29:42Joseph Tang:Yes, absolutely. I love it too. I'm excited to see how people will style that and make it feel more day and outside versus inside. Okay, so many of us use the new year as a time to clean out your closet, refresh your wardrobe. So I would love to hear your thoughts on some items to shop in early 2026 that will feel current, but will still have a staying power year over year, at least for a few seasons. We're going to play a little game and I'm going to give you a category and you tell me what style you would recommend investing in for this year. So it's kind of like the 2026 version of wardrobe staples.

30:14Lauren Eggertsen:Okay.

30:14Joseph Tang:Okay. So outerwear.

30:16Lauren Eggertsen:Okay, so for outerwear, I am saying to everybody, you need to invest in a beautiful wool coat. It could be double faced cashmere if you're fancy. But a double breasted wool coat will get you so far in terms of really completing your look, as long as it's tailored really well. So you know, you want something with a bit more of a structured stroller. And I would go for like a mid calf, like a three quarter length wool coat, which I recently invested in. And I'm realizing that even though it's not a floor grazing coat, it still goes on the floor of the subway or the streetcars. So just find one that's proportionate to your height, but something that's below the knee.

30:55Joseph Tang:Love. Okay. New pair of jeans. Okay.

30:58Lauren Eggertsen:I'm really, really into raw denim jeans. It's like a relaxed, looser fit, high-waisted with a cuff. I think the kind of rolled up cuff detail is a super exciting way to wear your jeans and a cost saving hack for not having to hem them if you need them to be hemmed.

31:20Joseph Tang:So me, I have to do that with all my jeans anyways, but now I love that they're trendy. Okay. Going out top.

31:26Lauren Eggertsen:Okay. This one in the office was a little bit of a controversial topic, but the peplum is back. Oh yeah. Like a soft peplum. I'm kind of over these puffy sleeve tops that we've been seeing so much of. So I think the peplum with a very sophisticated, clean neckline, it's so flattering. Done in silk, or you can even do them in a knit jacquard fabric. But I would say that's a really great going out top piece.

31:51Joseph Tang:Okay, a pair of work pants.

31:53Lauren Eggertsen:So I would go back with the same fit in your jeans, but I have a two-pronged approach. You can do a high-waisted wool trouser. And you know that scene in Made in Manhattan when Jennifer Lopez is trying on that white Dolce suit? Those pants are the perfect pair of pants.

32:10Joseph Tang:No, they actually are.

32:11Lauren Eggertsen:A really great high-waisted, fitted, and then they have a bit of a flare at the bottom. Those are the must-have pants. I go back to those pants all the time because they just fit perfectly. And then to that note is if you want to be a little bit more casual, a kick flare cropped kind of ponty pant pull on is a very nice way to take it from day to night.

32:33Joseph Tang:Okay, sneakers.

32:35Lauren Eggertsen:Sneakers, we're all about the kind of slim, low profile sneaker, but updated in a very fashion fabrication. So I love these kind of low profile sneakers in satin, like a little ballet satin sneaker, or you can do them in mesh or lace or tweed for the fall season next year. But it's still much in this very slim silhouette sneaker.

32:58Joseph Tang:Very chic. What about boots?

33:00Lauren Eggertsen:Boots? I am still a big proponent of the knee high ankle boot. that's kind of equestrian riding boot, I think is still going to be something that really, really is a go-to. So whether it's a riding boot where it's a bit more structured or a slouchy, flat, pointed toe, very much like the Kate kind of vibe boot.

33:19Joseph Tang:Love. And last but not least, an everyday bag.

33:22Lauren Eggertsen:So we saw a ton of bags from the spring collections. And I think this notion of these like book messenger bags, there's definitely this collegiate vibe that we're seeing. I love this idea of these like carry-all totes or these messenger crossbody bags, but still something that fits a lot of pieces is going to be really important and big. And again, like everyone has a black bag. You may have now invested in a brown bag. I love these different iterations in different fabrics, like a flannel bag, a canvas bag, a satin bag. Why not?

33:56Joseph Tang:Yeah. I really want the big satin Prada pouch. That's not the trend that you're talking about.

34:01Lauren Eggertsen:No, but like that fabric was amazing. Again, in the chartreuse colorway.

34:05Joseph Tang:The chartreuse. Even having that sit inside like a brown leather bag and it's kind of like coming out, I really want one. Okay. Fashion month is quickly approaching, which is wild. I'm curious which shows you're really excited about and any predictions on overall themes or trends, shifts, etc. We might be seeing in this next season.

34:23Lauren Eggertsen:For the men's collections, I'm really excited to continue to see the design direction of Jonathan Anderson. I'm loving what Michael Ryder is doing at Celine. And I continue to be obsessed with Dries Van Noten. I think Julian Klausner is just a genius. So I'm loving to see this kind of new wave of designer talent. And I really do see it trickle down to all the other brands that we see. You have these big mega brands that kind of anchor everyone. anchor the fashion weeks and then you start seeing the design evolution start to happen. I am really wanting to see and I'm standing true to this kind of period piece is what I've called it, which is this medieval romance.

35:08Lauren Eggertsen:I think Laura Piana does this and they're styling really well. I'm really excited to see how that motif is going to translate into 2026 for men and women. I love all the color. I think color is such an easy way to just make you feel better. And that's what we all need more of in this life. So I'm looking forward to seeing color on the runways. And then I'm a stickler for fabrication. So I'm always very excited when designers lean into nuances in fabric traceability or materiality. Sustainability is obviously a core pillar of ours here at Holt Renfrew. So I'm always asking brands the question of what are you doing in your design process when it comes to fabrication that's really challenging for a more sustainable future.

35:53Joseph Tang:I think that's amazing. All of these things I will definitely be keeping an eye on as we go into the next season.

35:59Lauren Eggertsen:Can't wait.

36:00Joseph Tang:So I know we've touched on a lot of the really big names like Chanel, La Bottega, Gucci, et cetera. But I also know that a part of your job is to keep a close eye on emerging talent. Are there any up and coming designers that you're really excited about right now or anyone that you're kind of keeping tabs on?

36:15Lauren Eggertsen:Yeah, I would say designers like Colleen Allen, which I just saw you guys featured in your Amanda Seyfried cover feature, which was amazing. Ashlyn Park, Grace Lang is another designer that we've had on our radar for a while between like Hazankov and Diotima. Those are two brands. Like I'm obsessed with both of them. Each one of their brands is so important for North American fashion right now. And then obviously we're a Canadian retailer. So we are always keeping our eyes open and meeting with different Canadian designers as well. So Wan Zae Song is a designer that we're actually doing a trunk show with her next year, body of work and literary sport.

36:59Lauren Eggertsen:I think it's so nice to see brands leaning into the comfort of athleisure and kind of loungy wear, but making it feel really elevated and chic.

37:10Joseph Tang:Absolutely. I would love to know actually for a lot of our listeners and shoppers, it's hard sometimes to figure out on their own where to find a lot of these up and coming designers. So I was curious if you have any tips for people who want to support those brands, but might not know where to look.

37:25Lauren Eggertsen:I would say what differentiates being in fashion today versus when I think both of us started was that the information is readily available at everyone's fingertips. So watching award shows like the CFDAs or the LVMH Prize or following content creators that really are wanting to support young and emerging designers is the easiest way to learn about some of these. Emerging labels that are getting the attention of big retailers like a whole Renfrew or big press publications like a Who Outwear. And then the other thing is to look at stores like ours and see if they have sections that speak to emerging young designers.

38:07Lauren Eggertsen:So at Holt Renfrew, we have H Project. And H Project is a section in our store dedicated to artisanal, craftsmen, charitable and sustainable brands. And these are brands that we have a dedicated team who look all around the globe to find amazing brand stories and bring those brand stories to life through this designated area in our store. Or if you know somebody who's in fashion, ask them where they get that information from or where they buy. The best way to get all this information is just being curious, being able to check out different social media pages. I don't know if you follow, but like Kendall Jenner style or like Jennifer Lawrence style.

38:51Lauren Eggertsen:They're stylists. They're usually getting like one or two pieces from an unknown brand that I always like to look at and see how they've styled it and how it comes to life. And then that's a really great resource for me myself is just to kind of get into the nuance of what stylists are looking at.

39:07Joseph Tang:Love it. Okay. Well, before we go, I'm curious, do you have any fashion resolutions for the new year?

39:13Lauren Eggertsen:Yeah, I think I am really in the mindset right now of just taking it not too seriously and just really investing in enjoying this ride that we're on. So I'm looking forward to wearing what's in my closet. it, I'm really keen on just like making sure I'm not buying just for Fashion Week and making sure I'm buying to be a part of my everyday. So I bike to work. I need pants that can withstand me biking uphill to my office every day. I need jackets that will keep me warm. I am still going to be shopping with the intention of being ready to go to Fashion Week, but I am going to be ensuring that it's something that, again, it's not gimmicky or it's not something that I'm going to wear once and get sick of.

39:59Joseph Tang:I think that's a great reminder for everyone.

40:02Lauren Eggertsen:Yeah.

40:02Joseph Tang:Amazing. Well, Joseph, thank you so much for your time. This has been so educational. I love hearing just about your day-to-day life and how talented you are. And Holt Runford, we're so lucky to have you. And we're lucky to have you as a part of Editor-in-Residence too. So for those of you who haven't already been reading Joseph's stories, please be sure to check them out. He shares more in detail about specific trends and how he packs and what he's looking forward to and trend prediction, all the things, which is on Who What Wear. So thank you, Joseph.

40:31Lauren Eggertsen:Thank you.

40:37Joseph Tang:A huge thank you to Holt Renfrew's fashion director, Joseph Tang. Make sure to subscribe to our show wherever you listen to podcasts so you don't miss an episode. And while you're there, I'd also be so grateful if you'd rate and review us. If you have guest suggestions or any other feedback, drop us a line at podcast at whowhatwear.com or you can find us on social at whowhatwear. See you next Wednesday on the Who What Wear podcast. This episode was produced by Hilary Kerr, Summer Hamaras, and Natalie Thurman. Our production assistant is Raven Yamamoto. Our editor is Ko Takasugi Chernavan. Our audio engineers are at Glen Canyon Audio and our music is by Jonathan Leahy.

41:24Thank you.