First Look! đź‘€ How Gen Z Are Rethinking Sustainability & Neurodivergent Design in the Workplace : Mix 30 under 30 Series

18 Nov 2025 · 7 min · 3 chapters

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In short

Gen Z rethinking workplace sustainability and neurodivergent/sensory design—moving sustainability beyond “tick-box” compliance and designing spaces that support different ways of experiencing environments.

Guests

Sarah (architectural designer; became autistic after workplace-driven exploration of neurodiversity; works across creative pitches and more technical stages; undergrad in architecture). Also mentioned: a “Jolie” workplace design team/brand approach (sensory design with color psychology, fragrances, and soundtracks).

Key claims

Workplace design can lead to neurodivergent self-understanding; sustainability should be integrated from the start via materials, finishes, and selective carbon-heavy choices; workplaces shouldn’t be cold/clinical—cozy, sensory environments help reconnect people.

Notable examples

A Germany project with preserved concrete architecture and “amazing” resident-like spaces (lounges, flats); Jolie presentations using color palettes plus a song soundtrack per space and scent samples.

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Chapters

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Exploring Neurodiversity in Workplace Design

0:45 to 2:46

Discussion on how personal experiences with neurodiversity influence workplace design.

Sustainability in Design

2:46 to 4:59

The importance of integrating sustainability in design, especially for new designers.

“Is there a HR team that we could send a link to on the recording?”

Sensory Experience and Human Connection

4:59 to 7:20

How sensory design can bring people back together in a technologically advanced world.

“I think that's what's really great about working at Jolie is kind of that.”
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0:00I think that probably plays a part in it. Obviously, we've met before because we were on a panel about neurodiversity. So it's something I'm very passionate about talking about because through workplace design, I kind of was like exploring neurodiversity and I was like, oh, this is suspicious. So I went and had an autism assessment and I am autistic and I was like, oh, there we go. But it kind of it came from my work. Without my work, I would never have taken that avenue. so it was a big thing for me to kind of go down that path and now when I'm designing I'm so conscious about that and how different people experience spaces and it's really kind of fed into my work so I think that's played quite a big part of it as well and do you know how you got the award like any no I think that the powers that be nominating me um very yeah and then I got the message so yeah I've been I can say like I get to work on like so many different stages of projects so I do quite a lot of creative pitches which is really fun because that's just like that's business go wild go nuts be completely creative and then but then you always get to work on sort of stage two the stage three is where it's a bit more technical or doing a lot of it modeling or more like specking everything no not really but I did do my undergrad was in architecture so I did come from over 10 at all you are a bit then they're not I I've really enjoy the more creative side of things is where i really like like to be there oh nice and so they don't they're really in your own specific projects that kind of well like boombastic wow ones that it's hard a lot of the pictures that i've done i've really like them wow because that's when you could like you don't have the budget or silver you just go like like hotel ones that are really fun to do and then you hotel we've started getting into it yeah it's a whole number it's fun isn't it because the briefs are a little bit more like obviously this is the basis of hotel but the briefs tend to be a bit more open yeah we started doing a lot more so we have a side part of the business called designer's touch which is all about like the decorative elements from like the crockery to what wall art you have and that's really fun that's where i come in i like the specking is sometimes just like you're just shopping really aren't you yeah it's when we've done when you start like yes back about cutlery and stuff what's going on there was just one really cool project we did which i come up a workplacey one was in it was actually going in in Germany and it was sort of a really cool like concrete building was like trying to keep that kind of architecture over but it was like all these amazing Patreon spaces and this building was going to be like opposite it was going to be flats it was going to like it had lounges it was going to have everything in it basically so that was a really cool one to be on did you just go to Germany no maybe next time no miss don't they get the next one in LA then you go to it I bet You fall over the world.

2:50Yeah, exactly. But they are in America. Yeah. Have you been to America? Not yet, but yeah. The officers, yeah. Sell up. Peace, are we cool? I'm in porn person now. Is there a HR team that we could send a link to on the recording? Oh, that's nice. Good. And how are you going to change the world, Sarah? What are you going to do? What's your... This feels like those pageants. And they're like, hey, what would you do? And they're like, world peace. You know, the pageant. I'll start with world peace yeah and what we'll go on to I always think like younger designers that come out I haven't got tainted it's probably the right word like because I think you've been in the industry for a long time you start to do the norm right it's just it isn't it you do like you've seen this you've done it it works and no disrespect there's wicked designs out there but I feel like when you're just coming into a workforce in your kind of first five years you're kind of you're not kind of following any kind of rules because you're still burnt yet nah not being burnt yet so i think to me it might sound really obvious but kind of the sustainability aspect of things i think is so important and i think trying not to see it as that tip box and try to see it as like starting before you use heart designing like look at it from they dot and how you carry it through i think it's so important because i don't think we really got a choice anymore um which is quite a negative topic but I think it's so important and there's any ways we can weave in and into the science that's just like through materials or like how many finishes you're actually putting into a project and how you can still try to have like kind of layered and homely and that design which obviously we do quite like a sensory design how you still have all that but with the environment in mind and how you can I don't know what word is kind of push that ethos without packing a room full of like carbon heavy kind of priming, which I think is really important.

4:46Really mindful, really. Yeah, yeah. Really like quite selective about that, I think is really important. I do find the Jolie designs. Have you ever seen them? I have. They look lovely. So dreamy. They are. So dreamy. They're sun to work. So calm. Yeah. I think that's what's really great about working at Jolie is kind of that. You start off with how you want to feel in space. and so then you'll do sort of and then from that from the words you get if you want to be calm energetic lively joyful however you want to feel in the space and then from that kind of derive the color palette and so kind of go into the color psychology then you layer in kind of what fragrances kind of also help you feel that way which is something i find really really interesting so then we'll do when we do our presentations or do sort of all how we'll do the color theory the color palette we'll have a song like a soundtrack for each space i love that i know we'll have little like scent samples that we pass around to try and give that whole like jolly effects and give that whole vibe of how if you take like the idea the whole way how successful it can be and how it can really know you space come alive yeah i think it's so important as well because like i was at a talk not long ago it was that case sergeant i don't know if you know she's from hock and she was talking about how like like um science fiction got so many things right one of the things they got wrong was the interpretation of women was one thing but one thing they got really wrong is although technologies advance so much in even a lot of sci-fi you see it's very cold and very clinical and very like masculine and what we actually find is that because we've advanced technology so much we've distanced ourselves from the human so much that people want designs that are going to bring them back which is where all of this sensory experience are so important because we've distanced ourselves so far from each other through technology that now it's like how do we bring everyone back in and you know it's that texture and you know what what you're smelling what you're seeing it's so important i don't know if it's because technology is such like a prevalent path i think now you're noticing it more the people kind of really coming back for that they want that they want that and it's not saying we're saying no technology the technology's still there it's just what's around it it's like we don't need to be cold and clinical we can have something that feels nice and cozy yeah people get scared to say cozy especially in a workplace setting i'm like why would it why should not feel cozy what's wrong with that feel at home you know that saying you're like the people that you work the people that you spend the most time with like i always think it applies to the spaces as well Thank you.

From the publisher

The Mix 30 Under 30 miniseries kicks off on Space by Stansons as host Guy Stanley welcomes Eleanor Penny, Head of Workplace at Layrd and Sarah Astill, Interior Designer at Jolie Studio. Tune in for an inspiring masterclass in going against the tide and asking the tough questions. 

What You’ll Learn

  • How to design for neurodiversity without creating sterile, overstimulating spaces
  • Why sensory design goes beyond aesthetics to influence behaviour and emotional well-being
  • How to leverage colour psychology, fragrance, sound, and texture to create spaces where people want to work
  • The business case for designing soft, collaborative meeting spaces over cold boardrooms
  • How design impacts psychological safety in the workplace 
  • How to break through gatekeeping in male-dominated construction and property sectors as a young woman designer
  • Why portfolio presentation and personality matter as much as technical skills when hiring emerging talent
  • The emerging 2026 design trends shaping workplace culture


Eleanor is Head of Workspace Design at Layrd, recognised as a rising star in design for her innovative approach to creating inclusive, neurodiversity-conscious workspaces. With a background in interior design, Eleanor was inspired to pursue autism assessment after exploring how neurodiversity influences spatial design, a discovery that fundamentally shaped her professional philosophy. Her work emphasises designing spaces that consider sensory experiences for all users, moving beyond one-size-fits-all approaches. Featured in Mix’s 30 under 30, 2025, Eleanor champions the integration of warmth, texture, and accessibility into workplace environments while leading a talented design team across the UK.

Sarah Astill is an Interior Designer at Jolie Studio, a Manchester-based studio specialising in sensory-driven design experiences. With an architectural background and a dissertation focused on colour theory's psychological impact, Sarah brings technical rigour and creative vision to every project. Recognised on Mix’s 30 under 30, 2025 list, her expertise spans colour psychology, fragrance integration, and multi-sensory design strategies that enhance how people feel and function in spaces. Sarah's commitment to sustainable material innovation and holistic design approaches—from hotel concepts to collaborative workspaces, reflects a new generation of designers prioritising human wellbeing alongside environmental responsibility.

If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to subscribe, rate, and review it on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Instructions on how to do this are here: https://www.fame.so/follow-rate-review 

Episode Resources:

Eleanor Penny on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eleanor-penny-096058157/ 

Sarah Astill on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-astill/ 

Layrd Website: https://www.layrddesign.co.uk/ 

Jolie Studio Website: https://wearejolie.com/ 

Guy Stanley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/guystanley 

Learn more about Stansons Group Ltd. here: https://stansons.co.uk 


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