133: Louise Thompson gives us the goss on Sam!

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2:19welcome to staying relevant the podcast hosted by me sam thompson and normally my bestest bestest pal uh peter joseph jeremiah josiah wicks but there is a difference uh peter wicks isn't with us today he is stuck stranded in can he missed his flight and um he was meant to be here because we actually do have a guest but now it is just me and my guest who i'm not actually going to introduce quite yet i'm going to get the uh the housekeeping out of the way um there normally is alcohol and swearing in this episode because pete isn't here i imagine that might be lowered a little bit remember as well as listening you can watch us now too the full video is released on youtube every friday after the audio is out every monday and we're not going to do that stupid fucking thing monday wednesday thursday sunday do it it's so we get one break and now you know who the guest is by the way right ready you can find us on monday wednesday thursday sunday like we're a bunch of children it's good that it's not on tuesday i was saying this on our pod yes see you next tuesday you're meant you're meant to be a surprise and this is now just not a surprise at all right before you get started make sure to follow wherever you're listening that's gonna mean you'll be the first to know of each new episode and you've already guessed it our guest today is someone that we've been trying to get in the studio for fucking years we finally managed it's my sister it's the goat louise and of coursey thompson hello and welcome to the round of applause Hi.

4:00Hi. You've actually only asked me once, by the way. I've asked you loads. Have you? Yeah, loads. Oh, maybe actually Pippa's asked me a few times. Yeah, you've been asked loads. Have you never been on this pod? Even when I was in the jungle, were you on this pod? No, that was when I was asked. But it would have been really weird if I came on and I wasn't with you. This is wild. Yeah. We've been doing this for like three years. And this is the first time that my sister has been opposite me on a podcast. I said that to Ryan this morning. And actually the team, I was like, I've never done a podcast with you.

4:31Isn't that cool? That is wild. I know. Okay. We have so much to unpack. I know. I know. Oh my God. This could even be a therapy session. This is, what do you think? Actually, do you know what? I've got just, I want to get a couple of things just out in the open. This is your first time, obviously, on the podcast, but also in the studio. This is our studio. Welcome to the pads. It's so cool. I'm so impressed, honestly. And this is, but this is only like your second time in the studio. It is, yeah. This is like new home. It's so cool. It's great. It's like around the corner from us as well. I know.

5:02Can you sleep here? So like if you wanted to, you could have a sleepover. Are we excited? They might like lock you in. I haven't asked the question. I don't know. It's not a no. We should have a sleepover. We've got a TV. Yeah, you could do like a sleepover. We can get Netflix on the TV. Great. Or you could bring a laptop. That actually, do you know what? That could be quite a fun little social clip. We're going to talk about that a little bit later. What do you think, though? You've walked in, right? There's like, there's employees here, Louise. There are people who work. It feels very, like, corporate and official.

5:36I'm very proud of you. You're really a grown-up now. You've got, like, a little canteen. There's, like, buffet bar. Got a nice matcha. It's actually, I'm kind of jealous, to be honest, because I've been looking for an office for a while, and I feel like you've gone and done it without me. Mate, get involved. I would die if you got involved. That would be so great. Can I come and just work here? Can I have a hot desk downstairs? Of course you can. Mate, you can dive in whenever you want, although there is a keypad. Peter's fitted a fucking keypad onto the door, which I don't know the code for, by the way.

6:06What, like on the door? On the door, into the studio. You've got like a little keypad outside your house. Yeah, I know, but I... I actually shouldn't tell people that. The fuck you did? That's where I put my fucking spare key. Which is good, because you always lock yourself out. Mate, I can't even get into this fucking studio. How mad is that? I mean, there are a lot of things that you can't do. It's a good job that you work with really good people. Because Sam's redoing his house for the 10th time. Redoing the tiles in the bathroom. Complete, like, kitchen gut out. Copying my garden. It's just constant drilling next door.

6:42I literally came up with Louise's. She's full-blown, like, working in work mode with everybody. And I'm like, I just brought you five seconds. like yeah I took her onto the roof and I was like I was like can you can you just look into my garden and can you just tell me what I need to do to it and I basically just ended up being like can you just can we just use every single thing in yours so I'm having a mirror image of Louise's garden in mine because I just don't know how to do it myself it's quite sweet and you haven't even helped at all I have Sam comes around all the time he's like can you just can you need like you really need hand holding throughout every single decision so yesterday you came around and said can you tell me exactly what the names of the flowers are i was like you could just take a photo and ask somebody to help you and i was like there's the jasmine they're purple ones for the geraniums that's an olive tree oh my god poor jess actually was there yesterday the day before yeah i thought you had like a i thought you had a bird round i was like cooking on the barbecue and then i heard like a little light lady like tapping next door and chatting away and i popped my head over and i was like oh yes have you ever seen a bird around my guy okay so what i will have to tell you is that i never ever look all right here we go this is this is prying is what this is ryan so from our the whole thing is really creepy because ryan i mean not ryan our beds basically back onto each other with a wall in between never heard anything thank goodness but in the bathrooms the bathrooms are also symmetrical if you look out of the window you can see into your light well you've got an enormous light well into your kitchen and we can always see you with whoever you've got there whether you're like snuggling up on the sofa or you're sat on the um the bar stools and i never look but ryan's always like sam's gotta go yeah and still i don't look i'm like i don't know he's a lot more interested but then i feel like he just gets jealous because you're with all these like young young pretty girls and i'm just i sometimes i actually knew that because i sometimes get a text from ryan being like just watching you in the kitchen right now and i'm like what the fuck and i like look through the lightwell he's just standing there waving outside of outside of the bathroom it's such a nice i know it's such a nice feeling it's such a nice feeling not the voyeurism but like it's just it's quite nice to know that like your family is right there if anything were to go wrong do you ever look into our kitchen i don't think you can see you do yeah i get onto my roof and then i climb over onto your like roof bit and your extension bit and look for your look for your light well i do that all the time and i knock on you you see me i knock on your light well but i thought that was just like the odd occasion no that's if you're not like opening the door to me and if like if i feel like you're like like shutting up shop but you're in there like i i will go make sure that you're there and then what happens is i'll knock on the light well and you get really annoyed because you'd be like i knocked him out for a reason that's what i find so funny is that you can't really get rid of me although you are trying with this country house but we're gonna come we're gonna come to that i know a lot of people have asked about that um and we're gonna show i think we've got to set the record straight with that to be fair but the team wanted to get all the goss on me basically and uh this is actually quite cute because you have such a beautiful i was gonna say nephew he's my nephew such a beautiful boy and um and i and i really feel that me and him are like bonding massively recently i don't know if you're feeling that uh that little boy is obviously leo and everyone says that we look alike but are we alike in terms of personality yeah are we actually yeah so i get a lot of people that actually message me about the fact that you guys look really alike and i don't know how they know that because how many pictures have they seen of you as a kid but you like I think from like the physical standpoint you are very similar you know like quite sweet like round faces like you know you know what I mean like smiley just like cheeks just fat faced no like nice like blonde blue eyes although he's kind of like hazly now um so there's definitely like a physical resemblance and i think personality wise very similar so your little like quirks i you know there are things that would be boring to talk about that obviously would align a lot you know there are a lot of like similar personality traits that everybody has but it's it's the unusual things that i really notice so i don't know whether everybody knows about sam like having a phobia of fluff when we were younger like fluff in toes like fluff from socks fluff from any like clothing objects anything anything like fluffy like like little bits of just soft material like used to drive you mad and so if they were in the bath you'd have like a breakdown about it and um you were also really particular about like the way that you got dressed and yeah and like certain sensory things it's kind of in autism and um leo is very particular about things yeah like especially uh so socks so you with your fluffy sock thing leo is he can only wear a very select sock which is a bit of a nightmare um they he hates the heel bit of a sock so so any sock that you know with like pants you have to get like some people like seamless pants i used to love white fronts yeah do you remember yeah what even when you were like a bit older yeah so basically when And I was about seven or eight.

12:22I, I'd only ever worn Y front pants. And when I was going to school, part of the uniform was boxes. And I cried and went, no, I'm going in my Y front. That's such a Leo-ism. He'd be exactly like that. Wait, is that not quite weird that you wore like Y fronts? Yeah, I don't understand why. Until seven. But maybe like, did dad wear Y fronts? I have no idea. That's so gross. But maybe it was like an old fashioned, like male thing. I refuse to take my Y fronts off. Different generation. So, and the Y fronts would have like a whole, you can like be out of. Why do you keep saying Y-fronts? Y-fronts.

12:52So Liu has like cute Y-fronts with Paw Patrol on, but he's now already upgraded to big boy pants. Like he's in boxers. Oh God, Jesus Christ. He's only three and a half. He's already overtaken you. So he's like a little bit more developed than you. He, but yeah, no, the sock thing will have a full on tantrum. Like if he puts them on, he'll put them on like four different ways. If I roll down the top, no. So basically if he puts on a trainer and like the heel bit is like remotely above the trainer, he's got to start, like take everything off and start again. Oh my God. So very fussy. Like everything has obviously got to be like label on the back.

13:21He's like label on the back. He, he now, it's a real shame actually that he will only dress himself. So I had like a two year window where I got to dress him immaculately. And he's like this little poster boy kid. And now, I mean, I think it's the sensory thing. Like, you know, when you just want to be comfortable and I kind of get it. Cause to be fair, I'd rather be sat here in a, in like one of Ryan's t-shirts and a pair of pants right now. So he, he just wants to be, in pants. You both love, you always wanted to be naked when you were a child and like Leo also always likes to be naked. So maybe ideally, like maybe you're both quite like primitive.

13:58Did I want to be naked as a child? And then you wanted to be like stripped back, so just like more like a caveman. When did I want to be naked as a child? You just, I feel like you always had your bum out. Is that weird? But maybe that's just children. Like when it gets hot. I remember there was a time where we went to Legoland with one of you and your mates and this actually goes into the next question because it goes does Sam ever hang out with Louise and her girlfriends um and I remember we went to Legoland with was it Thorpe Park one of those places with you mum and one of your mates and um and I shat myself in the car and I remember being like I really need the loo I really need the loo and then just just and then just shat myself it was the first foray I'd ever had into you and your friends I'd never met one of your friends before and we have to all sit in the car chatting all the way home with me just having shat myself and I remember on the way back on the way back I remember being so embarrassed all the way home wait so how old were you when you when you pooed your pants not not that like I'm probably around like again like the seven seven or eight okay that was like a bit of a triggering time yeah I don't know a lot of change but to be fair that was when you went to boarding school which is really young so you were probably like a little little bit like unnerved by that experience did i hang out with you did actually you did like poo i do remember you just like pooing obviously you pooed around the swimming pool you pooed in the bath like leo's not really a big he's got quite normal bowel habits which is quite a swimming pool maybe that's like a libby thing because the thompsons have some weird bowel stuff like you're constantly complaining about your shit and so does dad and you know we all know that i poo into a bag yeah pete hate we'll get on to that but pete hates uh my bodily functions okay well because you complain about them a lot well just because i do them quite a lot and you just see he's got a real issue with that like a real real issue with me if anyway if i fart it's like or burp he calls it burp and blow he absolutely that is that by the way is absolutely hideous like you should never do that he's like all right it's just the way she says that to me dude he literally will burp and then blow it into into your face like you can't do that to women it's you never you actually have never burped and not blown it into someone you don't go over to someone and go like and it's like really indigestionly and like acidy i did it to producer pippa and she left the building she stormed out so nasty pippa blew it in his face worst thing is we've got a new new employee just sat next to her right now called galena i mean i promise you i'll never do that to you this happened to a bit but this is the thing you say that now how long does it take till you really get comfortable yeah well this is the thing I won't I promise but I did it to a bit about a month ago and she was trying to explain something quite serious to me and just literally silently got up and just walked out of the building but then I made Josh the digital Josh I made him follow with the camera oh my god like you're in like the Kardashians and you're about to have like the actual fight she literally I just need a minute she fucking walked outside the building and stormed down the road babe I'm with you I actually think I might try that tactic except it's normally in my own home I wouldn't really like to leave my own home because Sam's invaded when have I shat by the pool just question so when we were but you were younger in fairness probably like four or five and you just pooed like around this public swimming pool when we were in Spain yeah and there was just like a nugget and our parents had to go and run over like that would be mortifying Leo's not done that yet So public pooing.

17:36Does someone have to scoop it up? Obviously. You can't just leave it there. It's like germs. Who was it? Was it mum? Well, dad. Dad always still says, he's like, mustard attack. I'm never. He's never changed. You know, dad's never changed a nappy before. Shut up. Not once. No way. Isn't that, that's nuts. That's wild. That's wild. So he wouldn't have been picking that up. Just quickly. Do you have an idea of which one of your friends that I fancied? Okay, let me try and work it out. um Tilly yes oh yes that's exactly who it was yes I mean no idea what she's up to now and probably happy married or like with kids and stuff like that yeah a couple of kids yeah I yeah I used to fancy Tilly that's so funny because she was the blonde one yeah yeah oh did you used to hang out with my friends I feel like when we were younger there was more it felt like there was more of an age gap yeah when you were in your teens you never let me hang anywhere near you guys one time Tilly was there actually she was at our house and we both climbed out of the bedroom window sorry all of us actually you you were allowed you were included we climbed out climbed onto the roof and we like smoked and we I just got like a digital camera and this is probably when we were like 15 so it was like a not like an olympus it was just like a really basic like Canon and we took photos and you wore a beanie and I've still got the pictures.

19:01No way. I'll find them and you can link them on the page. Oh my God, that'd be great. And we're like puffing like big like balls of smoke in front of our faces thinking that we're really cool. And then I hooked up with Tilly Morgan Giles. No, you didn't. No, you know. No, I didn't. Did you ever get with any of my friends? No, no, I didn't. I didn't. No, I don't think. Quite fun though, if I had. For you, maybe. I remember when you had an 18th birthday party. Yeah. And I like, and I had, and I got to like chill with all your friends. oh my god do you remember so louise has had like a very storied relationship with boyfriends right like i remember every single one i remember every single makeup every single breakup and everything right the first one i'm not gonna mention his name but i remember the first one yeah um i was the reason that you and your first boyfriend got together how yeah there we go we were on holiday and i nicked your phone and messaged him going hey I just want to let you know that I'm really thinking about you.

19:56Like, are you free for a day? And you got absolutely livid at me. And, and then, and then you went, Oh my God, what are you doing? And I was like, and then he replied, I'd love to. I would have lost my mind that you did that at the time. Do you not remember it? You chased me around the pool. Was that? Oh God. I remember like, cause we sometimes had to share a room, well actually regularly. But then it got a bit more like a bit weirder when like our parents got divorced and like mum would take us on a holiday. And I remember then getting to the awkward phase where like I didn't really have like a razor and I need to shave my armpits and stuff.

20:34And that was around the time when I started dating that guy. And you must have nicked my phone. So it was like it was a tough time for me. It was like it was like a 13, 14, 15 year old girl. But that's that's great that it worked out. What was your first date with him? I've never even asked you this. Louise Thompson's first ever date. what was it really tall and like really iconic joke oh my god he might listen to this now he's got he's actually like dropped off the face of the earth really um you can see that you keep keeping tabs well it's always like good just to know from afar what people are up to but you know like the wonders of social media actually what i will say it's like every single one of my ex boyfriends up until then that whole tv thing yeah yeah these are before the tv boyfriends very very removed from like the media space which is frustrating because i can't find any pictures but they all have like incredibly successful jobs and so what was the first date um the first date was to be fair i think we just like snogged at a party was like the first encounter and then i don't know what do we do on a date though

21:46like I oh like I don't think we ever went on a one-on-one date there were a lot of times where we met up and we would meet up in the same pubs all the time with like loads of friends like big big groups and there was like some comfort in that because I had no confidence when I was younger so we would just sit there for hours and there were like two pubs and they would basically serve us underage god I remember meeting up with boys actually when you used to be able to smoke and I I'd sit in like Pret and we'd smoke and have like a coffee, which is weird because we were really young. And then we'd go to the cinema and just like smoke in the cinema and then like make out.

22:23So that kind of stuff. So I used to go to Windsor a lot. And then we would go and just like hang out in Windsor. Just sit in parks, in circles. Louise. Do people still do that? Do they just like sit in circles and like chat to the opposite sex? I'm not entirely sure to be fair. I don't even remember any of your girlfriends. Is that saying something? Like, why did none of them ever come to the house? I didn't have a girlfriend until I was... I didn't have a girlfriend until I was 22. Until you joined the show? Tiff. Tiff was my first ever girlfriend. Yeah. That's mental. You know, you're going to go through all of these things with little Leo that obviously we've been through with our parents.

23:02But what do you think I would be like as a parent, seeing as you are now one... Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know what I would be like and you know me so well. Yeah. What would I be like as a parent? Can I give an honest answer?

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25:20That's F-O-R-H-E-R-S dot com slash eligible. Forhers.com slash eligible. Weight loss by HERS is not available in all 50 states we go v is the registered trademark of novo nordisk as to get started and learn more including important safety information we go v clinical study information and restrictions visit forhers.com i want the i want to know brutality you're an amazing i was gonna say nephew uncle because like dip your toe in like in and out give the energy as and when you need thing about parenting right is this from the day that child pops its head out of china it is there for good and like there's no there's no rest there's no chill in between and i think for you you would really struggle with that because you like to like give a lot like you know when you're out doing your thing but then you retreat and then you have like your safe space which is you know there's no safe spaces no but there's like yeah there's no safe spaces for kids so i think for you you would probably need some help would i be a walkover um oh that's a good point

26:39it's it's it's so funny because like you really have to have this like personality transplant when you have a child because you go you have to suddenly go from being like fun and and young to then taking yourself seriously sometimes so you don't get taken advantage of so i don't know i think you'd like you'd like have this kind of like juggling out between being like i really want like you to love me and like i want to be like that fun labrador puppy but then also you'd be like at some point i need to be respected i i i would love to be like so have you ever met rose i need to learn about rose can you explain rose to me because i'm not like my child i've got a kid yeah rose is my kid she's great doesn't pete have a daughter yes he does she's no olive she's called olive yes i i've olive and rose what's really annoying about that olive's on my baby name list so can i still call if i was ever lucky doesn't actually have oh by the way we need to do a disclaimer pete isn't actually a dad that we know of well you know he probably actually is a dad to be fair i mean yeah father's day comes around he does hide every every time it does but but as far as he's aware he's not a dad um people keep getting in touch like who's the mum wait okay so hypothetically you've got you've got rose and pete's got olive yeah and what do you guys so how are you so we're great so rose is a is she's a really goody two shoes um olive leads rose astray and uh but they're best friends they're joined to the hip Rose Olive got expelled from school for smoking and you know just sort of like general violence general violence and but Rose is sticking out she's actually an A student and everything so very unlikely to be your child no very my child very very my child and Olive very Pete's child and then actually Olive's got a heart goal to be fair on her but you know inside she cleans out like the stables with Pete and like they have a very lovely relationship but she has got a fucking mean uppercut and like basically she just like she won't take any grief from anyone.

28:41You know, someone tried, basically someone tried to bully Rose, my Rose at school. Olive stuck up for Rose and then got expelled because of the ensuing violence that occurred. So they're really, really tight. Okay. But Rose is still at school and she's, you know, she's starting on the dating scene. Yeah, how are you finding that? Do you know what? I'm torn really at the moment because I don't want to be a walkover from the guy. I don't want the guy just to walk over, walk in and just think he can just take my daughter out rose on a date and just have her back whatever time he wants yeah i want him to fear me a little bit um but i also don't want to be that you know that dad who's a little bit too controlling at the same time so i'm sure i'm still trying to find balance yeah you're playing you know i'm playing nice but i want you to respect me is how i think i want to be as a dad it's funny because ryan's literally said i cannot have a daughter because i would knowing what guys think i could never allow anyone to take her out like it would make can want to be sick very pete wicks very few weeks that yeah um so what are you gonna be this is so funny though i love have you guys you guys should do that thing you know that thing that they do on love island where you have to practice with a baby you guys like 100 % need to do that but also definitely before you have kids give me your biggest okay so how would you okay pretend I'm a guy that's coming to pick up your lovely daughter Rose from the house.

30:05Like I'm knocking on the door. I'm quite like, I'm quite nice actually. Like I'm just, how are you? What are you saying then? You're a guy. I'm a geezer. Yeah. You're a geezer. I'm slotting into the Pete wick. Shit. What's your name? Why do I want to say Gary? Pete. Well, you're fucking Pete wick. Yeah. I'm Pete. I'm Pete. No, you can't be Pete. Cause Pete knows Rose really well. He's a godfather. Well, that would be really bad. Right, I'm Ben. All right, Ben. Oh, you sound like you're from, you know, good friend. Ben's a nice name. I'd be like, how are you, mate? Are you good? Like, I'd be nice to him.

30:40And I, but then I'm like, come in, mate. Do you want a dash? Have a dash? Like, do you want me to, do you want anything at all? Where are you taking Rose tonight? Yeah, yeah. And I'd be like, look, mate, there's no need to, you know, sort of be nervous around here. Like, you know, I want you to feel comfortable around this house. You know, Rose has said a few nice things about you. But, you know, just quietly, you need to have her back at this time, mate. Yeah. You know, I respect that you guys are a certain age and I respect that you want to go and have fun and stuff, but she has to be back at this time and she's not.

31:09You're never going to fucking see her again. And two,

31:14treat her like she's, you'll treat her like you're treating me. I don't have a vagina, but like treat her like. I was going to say, okay. But like, as in like, treat her with respect that you were treating me right now. Okay. because I know your parents and... Oh, yeah, so you've already connected with them. Yeah, I know your parents and actually worryingly, so does Pete. Oh, so basically like Pete's always in the locker whenever you go. Pete will fuck your mum. Do you rely on Pete quite a lot for that? Yeah, a lot. Because I feel like, I know Pete. A lot. I don't know if you've ever watched Bad Boys.

31:45Sometimes I even say like, I know Pete. I'm like, yeah, I'm kind of like my brother's friends with Pete Wick, so don't mess with me. I love it. Do you know what's so funny is that he once got called in an article, Essex hard man Pete Wicks, and I've just never managed to get that out of my head. The fact that he's known as Essex ladies and hard man, Peter James Wicks. I really want this like scene from Bad Boys though, where like Ben comes around the gaff, I open the door to him and I'm being quite nice to him. And then Pete comes around the corner of a baseball bat and goes, hey, and he's like the sort of slightly more sort of like unhinged one.

32:18I'm like, I'm sorry. Slightly more unhinged baseball bat. And I'm just like, oh, sorry. That's just like her, that's her brother, her father-in-law. that's a godfather that's a godfather would you make pete a godfather 100 cool 100 pete is my god can you have kids yeah i this is it i really want kids now you you actually like handled that whole situation quite well and i think that that's because you've had tricky in-laws before yeah yeah do you know what you know how to be friendly do you know what i i think that ever since we started talking about rose and olive i suddenly feel like i want kids do you yeah and i really want a girl do you yeah i really want a little girl and so cute yeah i i don't know what it is i'm starting to get broody which is mad because realistically i haven't even got a girlfriend um and and and we're we're very much back at square one with that so unless i adopt there's not really any chance.

33:17But yeah, I've really I've been thinking well not really though because I want to be a young dad. Okay, wait and you're 32 you're 33 very soon. That's quite scary. Okay, is it? You're 35. Pete's older than you which I find mad. Wait, why do you find that mad? Because you're like the oldest person I know. Oh shit. Just mentally you're just really old. You're just That's a compliment because I'm like a wise old owl. You might as well be called Ruth. No, I'm... Mate, that's no disrespect to any Ruths, by the way, out there. I love Ruths. Well, yeah, I'm also great, so... Or like an Eileen. But wait...

33:54But wait, what about... The mental age of an Eileen. Who, by the way, is... Can we just clear up this? Because the other name that Sam calls me all the time is Victor Meldrew. Who is that? Because I've never even looked it up. Meldrew. Oh. I actually... Oh. Basically... Yeah, yeah, I... I call Louise Victor Meldrew. when she's basically just being a little bit of a Debbie Downer and she's sort of like just being a Karen and she's complaining and moaning and just like being just a genuinely sort of like old bat. It's sort of like - Yeah, but can I just put this into context? Okay. First of all, Sam probably complains more about stuff than I do.

34:33Second of all, I, what I'm actually like, what I'm contending with is ideas of like, oh yeah, let's do a viral TikTok about bin juice. and I'm like, sorry, doors closed today. But Ryan and Sam, there is this ongoing joke about, yeah, where like, apparently I like knock the wind out of everyone's sails. Do you think I'd be a better? It's part of the dynamic though. It would be real, it would be really boring if I was on your level. Do you think I'd be a better dad, dad or mum, dad? Or sorry, no, that's a boy. Are you going to have a sex change? Do you think I'd be a better girl dad or boy dad? Oh, it's a cute question.

35:23The thing is, like, you are actually quite, like, boyish in the things you like. Football, like, sports, like, gaming, that kind of stuff. so I think that you would like have you would enjoy that element of of kind of like teaching your kid to do those things but I can imagine you having I can imagine you having one of each really? yeah and do you think I'd have a favourite?

35:54all guys like daughters are always the favourite aren't they? well yeah I think this is I'm not getting this is I'm actually excited about this so am I Can we just find you someone? Anyone out there? Wish it was that simple. Yeah, oh, I've been looking. It's the trenches out there. The reason I ask you whether I'd have a favourite child is we, and I mean the team, actually went to mum and asked her who her favourite child was. Oh, my God. Karen's replied with a voice note. Perhaps I'm slightly biased, but I genuinely believe Louise and Sam were both really lovely, well-behaved and loving children.

36:34obviously we're talking pre-teens here anyway Louise as a young child always cheerful and smiling friendly, kind helpful conscientious very clever, keen to please certainly that would apply to Sam as well responsible and organised moving on, Sam entertaining, obviously funny cheeky energetic a little needy demanding of attention kind again intuitive slightly disorganised unlike Louise I'd say he was curious as well he had a sense of curiosity so what I've garnered from that is that you're the fucking favourite because there are about 30 fucking lovely things that she said about you conscientious I don't even know what that means She's fucking conscientious.

37:34I've got cheeky, demanding, and needy. Disorganised. Yeah, disorganised, needy, fucking cheeky, demanding, needs attention. You literally, clever, conscientious, polite, smiling, happy to help. I don't know when the fuck you've ever been happy to help round the house when you were a kid. I remember one time I went, oh, can I do the dishes for you, mum? Yeah, you're probably right. Mental. I think, I think it's funny because boys are needy. Like boys are more needy than girls, which is, I think I probably have a few people like trying to argue with me on that one. But like little boys are always like a lot more like cuddly and needy.

38:12And mum has always said that you were really needy when you were younger. Like you literally, you just like grab onto her leg and then like she couldn't get away. Which is, which is nice actually. That's what every mother wants. And for that reason, I actually think that you're the favourite. I'm not the favourite. So what she's doing there, she's overcompensating. she's going oh Louise is just so great but really we all know the answer it's you I was dad's favourite you are mum's favourite were you dad's favourite what the fuck where the hell does that come from you were dad's favourite you were dad's favourite I think you're both I think you're both favourite I think I'm the runt of the litter I'm the fucking runt man you're not what dude well actually I've got a question for you what were Ryan's for anyone listening Ryan I'm sure you know is my brother-in-law Louise is fucking husband.

39:01I was going to say how was it? You're not married yet, are you? You know, we registered intent to get married yesterday. Isn't that niche? Yeah, thanks for us. What does that mean? What does that mean? you just go to the town hall and you go, hey, and you get a list of questions. And does that mean you're married? No. No, no, no, I would have told you if that had happened. That would be quite bad. Imagine if I was like, my job. Yeah, you're married. Staying relevant, hurt it here first. So are we doing this then? Is this happening? Well, now we've already done that before but you have a year window and it expired okay so we've done it again and then are you planning a wedding no but do you have an idea in your head of when you want to plan a wedding no i think basically it's i'm not going to die but if i did if because i might have to have more surgeries and that kind of stuff we'll keep this like a posse episode yeah um it it's like strategically very sensible to get married because otherwise if I died, Ryan would have to give, like everything that I own would be like split in half.

40:01Oh, I see what you're saying. So actually I've been like doing a lot of organizing. I've been writing my will. You're actually, can you? Am I on your will? Now I can ask somebody. Can you be my power of attorney, one of my powers of attorney for health and finance? I would love to. Oh my God, this is going to be amazing. when you're comatosed. It's not going to be amazing. Sam! I'm just signing your life away. Yeah, she'll do that. We'll have a bit of that. Is that what I get to do? Yes! That is so bad. Am I actually a fair attorney? Which means I do think that you're capable of some stuff. Fuck me.

40:38Tell Pete that. I'm in charge of Louise's wellbeing. It's quite scary, isn't it? No, because I can make good decisions. Yeah, I know. We all know that. I know. Shit, am I in your will? Just not meaning to be like, sort of like prying and stuff. Like, where are we at in that? Not that I want you gone. I don't want very much what you mean. So it's actually, thanks. It's, where are we at? I gave mum some money to basically look after the dogs. She's going to have to look after the dogs because we're on it looking after the dogs. Maybe Pete could look after the dogs. He likes dogs. Yeah, where, Sam's like, me, I'm here.

41:14I'm like Evan as well. You're getting, I'm not going to say like, live now. Oh, yes. He's getting, so it's like Christmas. What's he getting for presents? Do I need to write a will? Um, well, the thing about you is you're not married and you don't have kids. So it pretty much would all go to me. That wouldn't, I think it would go to our parents. That is fucking wild. Isn't it wild? That is absolutely wild. Um, anyway. Look, we have, we have spoken about Ryan briefly there. Uh, and you know, I adore Ryan. I think he's the best. I honestly, I think he's probably the best guy I've ever met. I mean that.

41:54That was a bold claim. Him and Pete, to me, when I was doing that challenge, Ryan and Pete were like the bedrocks of that challenge for me. Pete obviously was always going to be that. I didn't doubt that. But Ryan, when he came, I was stunned at how much I needed him at that time. um i just think he's such a fucking good guy man i think that you have managed to find like just the most measured insightful sweet man like and i out of like however many billion people there are he's such a fucking legend i'm so happy that you're with him i'm gonna say oh mate i'm so happy with him like you just he's just you're so great together yeah he's a bit of a diamond in the rough isn't he he's fucking amazing hard find he's so he's he's really like the yin is it yin to yang yin to yang because i'd say like we're personality wise quite simple like you know energy wise ryan's like the the calm yeah and he's so he's like really he's so he's such like a not underdog he's like the the like silent assassin you know he's the one that is like he never he does a lot of great stuff but he never he does it for the right reasons and he's also like so kind of like understated about everything he does he's just like there he's like steady eddie like always willing to help yeah um and steps in when he when when he knows he really needs to and I honestly like that challenge you've probably spoken about it quite a lot by this point but honestly was in floods of tears the whole week which isn't necessarily saying that much because I cry a lot but I I felt like I was so passionate about what you were doing and I and when I saw Ryan surprising you as well I literally was like I feel so grateful to have two like just these awesome guys in my life I feel very lucky and I think that you it's a testament actually to you how great the guys are that you have in your life as well because a lot of people have spoken to me about this that they think it's so cool that you've got so many amazing bromances not everyone has that yeah and people just really like you know are attracted to you i'll tell you what mate you're like a magnet for a certain kind of dude though it's always the same kind of person i think um but you know what's been so nice is this year has been fucking mental like having the close-knit family that i have around me you ryan p and all that lot has been fucking amazing like god the start of the year oh mate like tough and like i had like ryan around my gaff all the time i'd pete around the gaff all the time like i had like tony on call like 24 7 Marvin on call 24 hours like when it was really bad you had Marvin on the phone you barely fucking know Marvin but isn't that that's really incredible yeah I literally had four there was one day where we were clearly a lot of people were really worried about you because you were really really upset because of the horrendous breakup that you've gone through it just suddenly like all happened really quickly and I my phone wouldn't stop going because I did have like four if you're a really good guy mates all get in touch with me call they called they sent voice notes they were messaging and they wouldn't stop messaging me until I could reassure them that you were going to be okay and like that is just such a beautiful thing yeah I love like just a male like a great like male or male relationship is is such a wonderful thing and isn't I I also feel you know it's very it's obviously like our family all care about you so much but it's so like reassuring for us knowing that you've got such a good network of people like it kind of just makes you feel really like I don't know at a time which can be so like uneasy like we felt really reassured that everything was going to be okay because we knew that you had so many amazing people to like keep you entertained to distract you to give you like the words of wisdom and and just to like be there with you at a time where i honestly was messaging being like can you share your location at all times i need to know where you're going to be for eight hours at a time um how embarrassing that is at 32 years old your sister's like i need you to share your location is where you are you're just like god i'm a charity case i remember it so well i just had marvin on the phone bless him all the time be like i need to know you're okay and i was like i'm all right but like yeah it's but for a bit like you really weren't okay no i know yeah i mean i was in a terrible spot but yeah it's it's it is fucking amazing but you've recovered from this because actually to be i hope you don't mind me saying this but you struggled really badly after you broke up with tiff as well but that almost lasted like a bit longer and i think because you've created this incredible life for yourself and this like infrastructure around you you have so many amazing things that and this is really blessed position to be in and you've worked really hard to get to this position but then no matter like what life throws at you you're always going to have safety in in the things in the things around you whether that's like an amazing team doing this podcast um whether that's you know your family the radio stuff you do like your amazing team with like you know and some of your agents and stuff like you you've got so much going for you that like you're always going to be okay do you feel do you ever feel like like you're not gonna be okay all the time do you yeah all the time i feel very lonely quite a bit like because you're in that house aren't you and you're like just on your own and it's such a big difference yeah i mean like it's it's a huge huge difference and like but that's not all the time that's just like every that's like it comes in waves and it comes and goes but like because there it's so funny i saw a tiktok trend which is this is so true which is like one minute you're going like oh my god like i'm dancing to music in the kitchen making a steak the next minute you're just sat there on your own like in the bath going like oh god i'm just lonely but then it flips again you're like you're like amazing again and then you're just sat with your cat like on the seat going oh god i've just got no one with me like it's that's grief though isn't it it's wild man like the way it goes and it ebbs and it flows and stuff and you learn a lot about yourself and and stuff like that but yeah i there's loads of times where i feel like it's not going to be okay and i feel like that's but then again i feel like that's life isn't it where you know you do have your abs ups and downs and and and you your that's where your friends are there um well i'm just amazed that you've like bounced back so quickly and also you've thrown yourself into so much stuff that's kind of have been so good you know a lot of people a lot of People honestly would wallow a hell of a lot more.

49:04Yeah, it's... And you've got good friends as well. Well, I suppose. Nice Jojo. Well, actually, just sort of going on to this then, what do you think, as my sister... This is a big question. Oh, gosh. Here we go. What do you think is my ideal partner? As someone who knows me so incredibly well. Yeah. this is a this is a fun question yeah i think i think um look i don't want to offend anybody by what i'm about to say i think that there are a lot of people on the dating apps that you're on raya like a couple of those ones everyone is a bloody yoga instructor and an influencer and like that's probably a bit rich coming from me given that some people might live and i used to do some sporty stuff but there's like there's there's a kind of like a mold that a lot of people are fitting and finding they're trying to fit into and there's a lot of people that just yeah there's like a little cookie cutter template and everybody sort of like looks the same at the moment and i think it's you know a lot of people get a lot of work done and it's kind of become the norm now i think i would love for you i'd love for you to try dating someone that has a normal job that's outside of the media space i think that could be exciting yeah and somebody i think you definitely need somebody that slightly puts you in your place so who's going to talk back to you and not let you get away with everything or it can't just be like sam's way or the highway in a relationship and so you need someone that's quite like strong-willed and powerful but also who's going to invite you to do stuff and if you go no I just want to sit at home again like they're gonna go no Sam like this means a lot to me yeah like I've got some fun friends who you really like like they've got to have a good social life a good network so they can introduce you to people you can like cross pollinate you know bring your friends into the mix as well they've got to be able to like handle themselves in a conversation with anybody because you're someone that is meeting new people all the time and you need to have a woman by your side who can handle that with you yeah not necessarily that easy to find ideally somebody with with with a job like good like obviously like good family ethics are really important someone that if you want to have if you want to have rose then someone that wants to have a kid and wants to have a rose i think um but then look like if you're gonna go down the fame route i've got a few ideas but i i've actually said this to sam before find can you just find someone that i would get along with i'm thinking like young british actress like i'm thinking like the amy lou woods of the world from white lotus i'm thinking wait who's who's the one that i mentioned earlier oh my god wait wait wait okay can we talk big picture here okay i'm saying that emma watson okay would obviously be the tree yeah like went to harvard really intelligent no Yeah, you're obsessed with Harry Potter.

52:18You could do role play. Oh, my God. I might grieve her out. And, oh, Dad's calling. Ron, no. There must be another way. She's going to look at me and be like, are you fucking joking? You know, she was actually, she, what, this goes 360, this conversation. You know, she is in my year. and she was at school with said first ever boyfriend that I went out with. No way. And they used to date. No way. Yeah, they were at school together. And you know for Harry Potter, they used to come and do auditions for all the new movies. No way. Did they ever go to Bradfield? Nope. Because they came to our school and Tilly Morgan Jarls, jokes aside, got very close to playing Luna Lovegood.

53:04Wow. It's ideal. So blonde or brunette? Well, the blonde thing hasn't worked out so well for you. but I do think, but I do think kids are very cute. Okay. Tall or short? Well, you're not that tall, maybe. Right. Another tick off the list. Yeah. So normal, medium, medium, medium to small. This is like medium to rare. So, so someone with, with, with a job that's outside the industry, sort of medium height, brunette. Hand of themselves. Hand of themselves. Like a doctor. Are they going to be like a Deloitte guy? Oh, wait, wait, wait, hang on, please. okay please can you marry a doctor it would solve a lot of my problems either a doctor or a lawyer and i know annoying naggy karen's parents who are like oh you need to do this like please can you marry a doctor or a lawyer i never used to get that i was like that's really controlling that's just asshole parenting like terrible wish i'd married a doctor or a lawyer would have come in very handy when i nearly died several times but you married a ryan but i know and like ryan's irreplaceable yeah you can't you can't play you can't replace a ryan you know this is now actually a matchmaking service because i really want rose to come around in the next couple of years because you just want a friend for leo i would really like a friend for leo maybe i'll have to hold off until i can maybe find a way to have another child yeah what what is your type slipped on me uh okay let's go just personality first my type is a few things first of all i would say that like what you said a really important thing for me is is i don't want to babysit them like i i want them to be able to like be able to it'd be they don't have to be like the laugh of the pie but just someone who's like who can be in a room and and and i can leave them in that room if i need to and speak i need to go and speak to that person over there because i also know that if if my girlfriend or wife brought me to a party i would want to be the person that when we leave their boss turns around and goes i really like that person's partner like i really like that i really like a bit of a mark it doesn't have to be your work thing it could be a social thing where like you know i want people to turn around and i want you to be proud of me and i want you to have a goal and an aspiration to like to grow in whatever it is that you like doing you could and this isn't saying it's bad thing it's just an example you could be uh work at mackie d's right and if you come home every single day and go i just made the best fucking burger ever like oh my god you're never guessing can't stop talking about it to me like i'm like that's i'm so attracted to that i'm like that's fucking awesome i love how invested they are in what they're doing um i also feel like i what's funny about that one is because ryan has often said to me he's like i want and i think this is like a guy thing they really want their partners to like go out and do stuff that they really care about yeah i need that it's also like kind of get out the house yeah like have a few things that you're very interested in like go and do them yeah and get into it religiously and also things to like talk about also hanging with me relationship hanging with me is second to to that like if you're like no i really know i want to go on my run or like whatever it runs a bit so like independence as well they're not like pestering you like leaning up like hanging off your arm i would love an independent and a really independent person as well that would be that'd be really important ladies you're hearing it here first yeah i'm really opening up now i'm like god i've got a whole list i didn't even realize i had to be fair this is wild and i will just say this as well this isn't to say that other girlfriends and past like haven't had that stuff like that like this is just something i think i've always wanted um as a base layer you know but i will say this it's been a year but i will say that i'm so grateful to have you pete everybody there this is a personal little message from me to everyone listening here um all watching on youtube on josh's youtube and you louise and my family my friends and everyone i've never been in a better place i'm in such i i feel like after that challenge i left a lot out there we've already discussed it on this pod but i left a lot out there i feel like i feel really light and i feel really fucking good i feel like the back end of this year is gonna be gravy if that's even a word i don't know if it is it is so that has been Louise Thompson on the main episode.

57:23Pete should have been here, as I said. He isn't. We've had Louise, my sister, on as a one-on-one for the first ever time. But do not worry, because she's also going to be here for the bonus episode, where she's going to be answering loads of your questions. And let me tell you, there are a lot of them. Thank you. Before we go, also, this is massive. Voting for the Listener's Choice of the British Podcast Awards is now open. This is huge. Louise, could you do a call to action, please, actually to the camera to be like, please vote for the boys. Please vote for my podcast, He Said, She Said. Oh my fucking bitch.

57:57I don't think we're even involved. Please vote for the boys. Stay relevant. Word. Word. And we are going to whack a QR code up on our YouTube again for that. We still don't know if we've won the trick, so let's cover ourselves and get some votes for that one too because the trick awards are fast approaching. Louise as you probably know we've never won an award we are permanently in second or third place we're a nearly award winning podcast so this could be the year so please do give us a vote if you want to and Pete's going to be back next week as I said Louise is here for the bonus in just a few days we love you so much that's this episode done this has been a Staying Relevant production

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